Matt and Mona Vienne of The Pop-Up Garden

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Episode Transcript

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Good morning everybody, Welcome back.I'm Ron Wilson, and you are in
the garden here on news Radio sixten WTV in. It is Earth Day.
I hope you're out there doing somethingspecial for Earth Day, maybe getting
ready to pot up those containers,planning a tree, getting the kids involved,
whatever, Maybe do something for EarthDay. And we'll share a few
tips with you a little bit laterin the show about things that I see

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you can be a thinking about,not only for today, but in your
future gardening and yarding endeavors as well. Now you know, I'm a big
container garden I've been talking about containerguarding for well ever since I've been doing
the show, and I've been containergardening for even longer than that, and
I'm always looking for new ways tocontainer garden. And today you go on
Pintrich, you see so many greatideas of folks that come up with I've

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created some of my own different selfstanding planters and things like that. Well,
I came across one this past summerand I saw it again, and
I don't remember where I saw itagain in a magazine or something, and
it really caught my attention, andso I went ahead and I went online
and I ordered one, and whenI got it, I have to admit
it was everything I thought it wasgoing to be. This thing is absolutely

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outstanding. I love it. Asa matter of fact, I put this
together. It's still sitting on thebox. Well, I've taken it in
and out of my office, butit's right now sitting on the box in
my office as I every time Isit down, I look at it trying
to figure out exactly how I wantto plant this. And I'm going to
wind up buying a couple more,I know, I am, especially for
my mom, who I likes todo a little bit of guarding as well.

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But anyway, it's called a popup garden and their website is my
pop upgarden dot com. And thefolks that put this thing together and came
up with his great ideas, they'reboth with us this morning, Matt and
Mona Vienne. Good morning, goodmorning, good morning. Hey, good
to have you on our showcase.So who who's the blame for this pop

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up garden? That would be me. That would be me. So you
take the responsibility for creating this thing? Yes, you did it. You
did a great job. How didthat? How'd you come up with this
idea, I mean, what inspiresyou to do this? Well, I
was in my garage doing some honeydaystuff and a bucket was in my way,

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and I picked a bucket up andput it inside the cage, and
I said, what a great idea. So I started sharing it with friends
and family, and that's when allthe brainstorming began. So you said,
wait a second, I may havesomething here. Because I kind of laughed
when I first saw this, becauselistening to your story runs because I used
take a tomato casee, turn itupside put it or put it down in

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a pot, and then I wouldput just saucers in there from underneath the
pots and use it that way.And then they put a planner at the
top kind of the same thing.So when I first saw that, it
reminded me of that. But I'lltell you what, you hit this one
on the head. I just curious. I know you have to do a
lot of prototypes, the designing andthings like that to get this right.

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How long did it finally take you? How many prototypes did you go through
before you finally felt you had thewinter. Well, when we when we
first started building them, uh,we built them out of wood and metal
cages, and we would go tothese garden shows and stuff stuff like that,
and uh, people were amazed.You could grow things upside down and

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on top, and I really couldn'tbuild them fast enough. It's such a
unique product. Oh, it is, no doubt, And I think what's
interesting about that. Of course thisone is made out of out of recyclable
plastic, which I must commend youon that, because it is recyclable plastic,
which means of something down the roadyou get I don't know, you

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get tired of whatever. It isrecyclable, that is correct. And the
one thing with the wooden one inthere, like Matt sen Ron, it
was hard to produce them fast enough. And so we also knew with people
if they wanted to, because youknow, we would go to farmer's market
and they would buy them from usthere locally. But then we started thinking

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if people wanted wanted to be shipped. Now we're looking at, you know,
how we're going to ship this bigold box of wood basically. So
that that's when Matt went back tohis grinding stone, if you will,
and started thinking, okay, let'sstart moving towards the placid. That's like
you said, let's make it recyclablematerial so that when people you know,

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it's it's Earth Day, so we'retrying to be friendly sure earths as well,
and so like you talked about yoursaucers, the nice thing and the
unique thing about the planner is thatyou can grow from the top, and
you can grow upside down from thebottom of that big bucket and then all
the way around. And a lotof people they just get amazed when we
have a tomato growing from the bottomand they would literally bend down and look

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upside down and go, wait aminute, that tomato has grown from the
bottom of the fucking And so itjust amazes people, you know, when
they see it in action, howmuch yield you can get and grow in
just a small container. Well,and again you know, for folks you
go to their website it's my popup Garden dot com and you'll see what

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I'm talking about here. And itdoes. It comes in a big box,
you take it out. I tiedmyself. It took me ninety three
seconds to put it together. Soit's very fast to put this thing together
and once and it all snaps together, so you don't have any tools involved.
And once it's together, I wastotally amazed at how sturdy this thing

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really is. I mean, youknow, you look at you say,
well, probably blow over. Fromwhat I understand, you guys did a
little experimenting with that too, becauseyou're in Louisiana, right, correct,
So you get all the high windsand stuff down there with the hurricanes.
I'm assuming this thing holds up fairlywell in Louisiana. It does. We
do get hurricanes that we get tornadoes, and we have left it outside during

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a tornadic experience and she stood beautifullike before the tornado came. So it
is very durable. And then ofcourse you know when you add all the
soil and the plant, it justcompacts it in nice and tight, makes
it even more steady. Yeah,you put it together, it's already nice
and steady. Then you add thepotting soil on the plants, and that
just kind of puts everything cements ittogether. But again, the great thing

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about this is then at the endof the year, if I want to,
I could actually dump everything out,take it all apart. It all
goes right back in the box.I put it away and bring it back
out in the springtime. Absolutely oryou can move it to you know,
if you have a little greenhouse,you can put it inside there and let
it continue to grow. Or Ibrought it in when we first experienced with

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it ourselves. I brought it insidein my dining room and it made it
nice and convenient because I had allmy herbs right there by my kitchen.
I just walk over there and pickwhat I needed, and it was inside
and in the window, and itcontinue to grow as well. Well,
that's a great idea. And againit's called my pop up Garden. Dot
com is a website. It's popup Garden. You're gonna love this thing.

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And by the way, I wantto thank you for the two nice
rolls of the large um the plasticthat you put in their bubble wrap,
because it's that's that's a nice stressreliever. They're awesome, you know.
So if they go through our website, we do have a twenty percent discount
code. They can type in Springtwenty and they will get twenty percent off.

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Cool And I'll be the first,I'll be the first one to say
it. It's expensive, you know, but it's well worth it. And
what's interesting is I wanted to letyou guys know this. I do a
lot of garden talks, and Ihave taken this to a couple of garden
talks with me already put this up. This is the center of attention.
Um, I've thrown the price andthey're they're surprised that you can't get it
at a garden center. I said, no, right now, you got
to get it online. But whenI throw the price out there, you

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know, and there they said,well that's not bad. Now there you
go at all and uh and likeyou said, people already said, well
how can I get one? Andlike, well, go to our website.
And of course when they see it, you know, besides the amazement
of a grown upside down and allthe way around and on top, you

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know, we've heard it a thousandtimes. Oh well, you gotta take
this thing on shark Tank. Yougotta take it on shark Tank. We're
just like, we just got tostart first a little farmer's market, and
work were way up the shark Tank. So we so we may we may
see Matt and Mona on Shark Tank. You never know, you never know.

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I mean, it's such a uniqueitem and people just have to see
how it works and if they canwork. It's it's it's so unique and
it's so great. And like yousaid, um, if for anyone children's
kids today's you know, they're sosometimes caught up with social media and this

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is such a great family product thatthe parents can teach their kids how to
grow something, or they can getit for their grandparents and maybe an assistant
living and they can take it tothem and meet with them once a week
at the nursing home and help themwith their plants there. So it's it's
for anyone anywhere, from the cityto the country, to the rooftop to

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the nursing home. It's so unique. Anybody anywhere can grow with it.
I always say from two to ninetytwo. Container gardening affords all of us
the opportunity to do some type ofgardening. And this pop up garden,
you are correct, is for anybodyand everybody. I mean, you know,
I think about you give you eachof your kids one of these things
and let them grow their own,and it's just I mean, they would

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have a great time. I thinkof my mom, who was eighty seven
years old, will absolutely love oneof these things. On there, we
do some tomatoes and containers by theway. My dad, we kind of
called him the pioneer of the upsidedown tomato started growing those way back and
then nineteen eighties, very early eighties, believe it or not. So this
is this is kind of unique tosee this thing. And of course you
don't have to grow it upside downtomato. You can used to confuse the

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container on the top and grow anythingat the top of it. But I
looked at that, I look ata system, living places, senior citizen
homes. This has so much potentialwritten all over it. It's phenomenal.
And for me, like I said, I've been sitting there staring at this
thing, I come up with allkinds of ideas how to use it.
We're talking with Matt and Mona Vienne. They created this great container gardener called

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my It's a pop up garden.The website is my pop up Garden dot
Com. Be sure and check itout. Let's take a quick break,
we come back. We'll talk aboutsome things that you can be growing in
your pop up garden. Check itout my pop upgarden dot Com. Here
on news Radio six ten WTVN.It's called a pop up garden. Their

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website is my pop up Garden dotcom. Mona and Matt Vienna is with
us this morning. They have createdthis pop up garden which absolutely outstanding.
Got one myself, probably gonna windup getting a couple more. You simply
unpack it, you stack it whenyou're done with it. At the end
of the season, you just unstackit, put it back in the box
and it's ready to go for nextyear, or just bringing the house and

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use it in there. I haveto a couple of questions here, Matt.
First of all, Mona refers usas she just does a great job.
Why isn't he does a great job. He couldn't hear you? Ron,
I'm sorry, I just said Monarefers to the or a pop up
gardens. She is just does agreat job. How coming in there?
He is? It does a greatjob. He can do an awesome job

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as well. No, I meanyou refer to the pop up garden as
a she. Yeah, I justI'm just kidding. Well, you know
why why from the pop up garden? You just grow things from mother nature,
and so she's a she. Thereyou go, That's that's the answer
I was looking for. Outstanding.So the website again is my pop up

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garden dot com. Who who cameup with the stuff Talipino recipe that I
got in my box. Oh,that's Matt. That's Matt's recipe. That's
that's absolutely I absolutely love that recipe. That is unbelievable, my friend.
I mean that that right, there'sworth the worth the price of the pop
up garden. That's right. Whenthey get it, it'll be it'll be

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in there and they'll know how tocook it. Just like, yeah,
I tell you why stuff Talipinos.It's a great recipe. But again,
and you get to two things ofthe bubble wrap, which is outstanding,
and then of course you get yourpop up garden. But I did.
I got some great reviews showing itto other people. They loved it.
Um, I love it. Ithink it's absolutely outstanding. I think what's
interesting about this thing? And Iwasn't kid when I say I look at

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it and try to figure out exactlywhat I do. It has so many
possibilities. You've got those four umtrays that work on the outside, and
you can buy more if you wantedto add eight trays on there. And
then of course you got the plannerin the top, which could be an
upside down tomato. It could justbe something growing out the top. Totally
up to you. But I thinkone thing I was looking at to do

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with mine is to create some kindof a pollinator garden where and I think
I'm going to take one of thosetrays and put some coarse sand, a
couple of rocks, fill it withwater, course, plug up the holes
so you have kind of like asandbar for bees and for butterflies on there,
and just plan out with things thatflour for pollinators. I mean,
that's just another great way you coulduse this pop up garden. Absolutely,

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And you know, Ron, wouldyou comeing up with the idea of just
different ways to use your own popup garden? People there in your listening
Arab will I hope appreciate this.One of the two things we are most
proud of Matt's invention is, ofcourse when he received his patent on it,
and then we went to cultivate twentytwo. They're in Columbus, Ohio,

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and we were nominated for the Retolder'sChoice Award for Best New Products.
And we get excited when we hearother people talk about ways that they use
it. You know, you broughtsomething new to us two News when you
talk about your ideas of using it, and it just it's so exciting when
other people get excited about it andthe ways they would like to use their

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pop up gardens. Well, Igot to say, everybody that's coming into
my office that's seen it, everybodyat the Garden talks have seen it also
the same thing. Boy, Ican think of all kinds of ways that
I would use that thing, andall kinds of things that I could grow
in. And so you've got agreat design here. Again, it's it's
it's perfect that Matt, you didit. Outstanding job here and the two
of you unbelievable. I love it. I love mine. I'm going to

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order more and I know folks willlove them as well. And again,
you can't get them at a gardencenter. And by the way, that
is where I first saw was acultivate but at the at the show there,
But again you got to go online. It's my pop up garden dot
com. Take a look at it. I think you're gonna like it.
You may look at and say,well I could build something like that,
trust me, you can't, becauseit's as the way it's built is phenomenal.

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And they've done an outstanding job here. So take a look at it,
and again you can the ideas willstart just blowing your head up a
little bit. Here all the differentthings that you can wind up doing with
this. And again, if folkswant to order that, get a discount.
What is the key to put inthere? It is spring twenty two,
the room springs twenty and you mentionedyour mom. You know, Mother's

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Days right around the corner. Sogreat, great gifts for all the mothers
out there. They can start growingtheir own plants, their own herbs,
and we will have it delivered straightto their house. You can't beat that.
Plus the course you get, she'llget the stuffed talipino recipe, and
that way she can make that.She can make those stuffed talipinos for you

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when you stop by. Maybe evenhave a little fresh pop up garden salsa
to go along with it as well. Now, don't forget Dad, because
Dad gets forgotten, but Father's Daysright after that, absolutely, and dads
would love one of these. Andthen if you're thinking long term, this
is a great Christmas present and I'mgonna look cool under the Christmas tree and

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they can get it for Christmas andthen the wheels can start turning. Becomes
right around the corner will be springand they could think about all the good
things are going to grow in December. Yeah, you're just sitting there staring
at this thing, and it's abig box, so it's a nice thing
to wrap up. It would bevery impressive under the Christmas tree as well.
So again, check it out.The website is my pop up Garden
dot com. Matt Monovan, thisis an outstanding Again, I don't talk

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about things on our show unless Ireally like it. I love this thing,
and just folks looking at it thatI've seen it with me, I
have loved it as well. You'vegot a great product here. If by
chance, if by chance, youguys make it to Shark Tank. You
know how Carol Burnett used to dothat thing with her ear to say hi
to a mom or whatever I doI do. I grew up watching that

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show. Can you do that?So all of our listeners, myself,
l our producer will know you're doingthat to us. I sure will,
Okay, will we'll watch for that, I seriously will. Hey, thanks
thanks for being with us, Thanksfor making this thing. It's absolutely wonderful.
Again, my pop Upgarden dot Com. Matt and Mona Vien, thank
you so much. Good luck withthis thing you're gonna have. I'll tell

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you what word of mouth is gonnamake this thing go like crazy, because
once somebody has one, somebody elseis gonna want it as well. Um,
great job. Let's stay in touchwith each other. And again,
if you make it on there,we're gonna be watching for that little ear
tug. Absolutely thanks for having uson your show. It's always a pleasure,
our pleasure. Take care, yessir, all righty bye bye Again.

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It's called my pop Up Garden.That's the website, My pop Upgarden
dot com. I love this thingand I can't wait to get it planted
up. And again I've taken outa couple of folks looked at it and
it's absolutely wonderful. And this stuffPalipino a recipe. Yeah, it's worth
the price right there, all right, And again if you did, if
you would decide, you don't haveto just go look at it. I
think you think it's pretty cool.I just check it out. But if

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you would decide Spring twenty, Iget a little discount on top of it
as well. And they mail itright away, So it's pretty cool.
Nice box, got the bubble wrap, get the pope while you're putting it
together. Ninety three seconds I timedit to put it together. Then you're
good to go. And then youmight want to order four more trays to
put around the outside as well.So it's pretty cool. Pop up Garden,
my pop up garden dot com.Quick break, we come back.

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Phone lines are open for you.It's eight two one WTVN here on Earth
Day on news Radio six ten WTVN. But right now you're gonna see some
annuals out there as well, nodoubt about it. But a little bit
early yet. But you know,if you want to pick a few up
and get them planted, that's upto you. Well, you know,
we'll keep growing more. But youknow, it is Earth Day, and

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I always look at Earth Day,and of course next week is Arbor Day,
next Friday, and I always putthe two together, and I say,
you know, if you're gonna dosomething for Earth Day, put them
together and call it Earth Arbor Day. And I you know, again,
as I've said almost every show,the biggest thing you can do to help
Mother Earth, the biggest thing youneed to help out other nature is to

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plant a tree or two or threeand keep doing that every year, and
keep planning another tree and another tree, and just keep planning it forward.
You're not you know, basically,you're not going to You're not planning it
for yourself. You're planning it forwardfor the future, for your kids and
your grandkids and their grandkids down theroad, and the future of our earth.
And you know, we've got tokeep planting trees to got to keep

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replacing trees that are dying through nationalor natural causes, through insect and disease,
through construction and things like that.We've got to keep replacing these plants
or these trees and planting more andmore and more. So I like to
just combine Earth Day and the celebrationand Harbor Day and the celebration together and
say it's Earth Harbor Day, andyou know, for this next week to

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celebrate both of them, let's getout and plant some trees, because that's
what's going to have the biggest effecton everything that we do. Now.
Obviously, you know, you wantto, you know, keep talking about
recycling and composting and doing simple thingslike keeping the grass clippings within your own
yard. Don't throw them out inthe street, so they go down the
seward, that down the draining intothe creeks and streams. Keep them within

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your own yard, put them backinto the turf. You know, maybe
put a rain garden in if you'vegot a yard to slopes a little bit
and a lot of runoff, youknow, trying to stop that and keep
it within your own yard. Raingardens are great for doing that. Planning
up a nice rain garden, collectthat water up and then keep it right
within your own yard. Core aerrating and vertical mulching. Opening up your

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soil so that when we do havethese showers that it can penetrate down into
the soil within your own yard.Keep those leaves within your own yard.
Composts those Again, we go backto the composting, planting trees, if
you don't have any in yard,planting trees. Always talking about pampering your
worms, folks, what are youtalking about? Pampering your worms? Doing
everything you can in the soils tomake the worms happy. If the worms

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are happy, your plants are goingto be happy. You know. We
had to Sharon Morgan on last weekendtalking about you know, from England,
talking about our gardens at all.And one of the things you had in
that book is taking an earthworm count. And I've talked about that for years.
Folks like like, how do youtake an earthworm count? It's very
simple. You dig up a clumpof soil, you break it apart.
What do you have in there?What do you see as far as earthworms?

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And if you don't see any tunnelsand you don't see any earthworms,
You've got a problem. So youstart adding composts and an organic matter and
doing things to your soil to lvenit back up, bring some earth batter
or some life back to it,and get those earthworms growing back in there
again. And when you do that, I guarantee you the plants up above
are going to be happy campers anddo a lot better job for you.

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Plant native plants. We've got somegreat sources of native plants around the Columbus
area. Most of the garden centersnow or having the native plants as well,
Native plants, native selections, nativeoars. I'm for all three.
I mean, I look at nativeplants great. I look at native selections
great. I look at native rsgreat. I think we should use all

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three in a diversity, I thinkis a wonderful thing. Just planting things
at flour and some of those thingswe plant may not be native, make
sure they're not invasive obviously, butnot native, but pollinators enjoy those as
well. Again, planting things thatjust flour are showing to be so beneficial
to our landscapes. Again, bringingin the beneficial insects. You may think

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about reducing the lawn the actual turf, increasing your bed sizes so you can
do more of these plantings for thepollinators, for the bees, and reduce
the amount of turf that you have. And if you have turf, what
little you have, maybe do somemicro clover within that turf, raising a
little clover so it helps to feedthe lawn and you don't have to feed

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it quite as often. And doremember we talk about feeding, We talk
about sprays and secticize fungicides. Youknow, there are the synthetics out there,
and then there are all natural allorganic products as well, and some
work better than others, there's nodoubt about it. Some of them can

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be expensive sometimes you have to usethem more often, but they're available for
if you want to go that direction. You know you've got copper and sulfur
in the fungicides you got insecticidal soap, and I'm not talking about using liquid
dawn soap detergent and a drop inwater because it has a degrease or in
it. I don't recommend doing that. Insecticidal soaps that are commercially made for

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use on plants covers a lot ofdifferent insects, but very you know,
a lot more environmentally friendly. Horticulturaloil same way covers a lot of bugs,
more environmentally friendly, and why Idon't know why we don't use horticultural
oil a lot more. You canuse it as a dormant spray or as
a growing spray, but again moreenvironmentally friendly. These are out there for

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you. There are vegetation killers thatare all natural products. There are weed
killers that are all natural products,most of those made out of iron that
can be used out there. Sothose products for alternatives available for you as
well. And as I've always said, you know, a strong stream of
water on a garden out of agarden hose can cure a lot of insect

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problems, or at least suppress themdown, so you don't have a problem
just with a strong stream of wateror a quick swipe of your hand with
a pair of gloves, or justwithout the gloves if you like it that
way. We'll take care of alot of insects as well. So again,
these things that we can think aboutand do to just be a little
bit more earth friendly, I thinkare very very important. Think about it.

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You know, I've had the yardboys points to ponder, and most
of those are all. That's whatit's all about. Just think about being
smart about what you're doing in youryardening endeavors, and do everything we can
to make our earth a little bitmore friendly. But the big thing of
all of these things do them all, I hope, is to get out
and plant a tree or two orthree. And if you can't plant them

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in your own yard, you knowwhat, there are a lot of other
yards that would love to have atree. Your neighbors, maybe ask them
first. Don't plan it without askingthe church, the schools, the parks.
Ella's house she needs a tree.She'll take a tree from somebody.
Lots of places need trees. Ifyou can't plan them in your yard,
plant them somewhere else. Get thekids involved, grandkids involved. It's a

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lot of fun. And you watchthat tree grow over the years and somebody
you come back twenty years from nowand say, hey, we planted that
tree and look what it's doing forour environment. Quick break, we come
back, we'll finish up. Phonecalls are open for you. It's eight
two one WTVN, eight hundred andsix ten WTVN on this Earth Day.
You're on news radio six ten WTVN. Hey don't forget to check your market

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your calendars from May eleven, twelveor thirteenth. It is the thirty sixth
annual Chadwick Arboretum's annual spring plant Saleand Auction. I think the Thursday night
the May to twelve is the membersonly, but of course you can sign
up and be a member when youget there. Then you got Friday and
Saturday checks, some credit cards,food and drinks will be there. Public
facilities quarta potties. Sorry you can'tbring pats and only if the kids actuated

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you can bring the kids. Chadwickarboretumdot osu dot evu. That's Chadwick Arboretum
dotsu dot evu. Back to theguardiphone lines. We shall go and good
morning. I have a question.I'm looking my gardening landscaping book and can't

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find any information at all about that. But I'm having several Yoamas plants removed
from two areas around my home,and the technician landscaper suggest that I have
chokeberry lowscape mound planted. Can youtell me anything about these? Yeah,

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it's erroney. It's a nice one. As a matter of fact, they
came out with a couple of them. There's a ground hugger. They first
called a groundhog, but then theyrenamed it the ground hugger. So there's
two of them that are available,and they're really nice, nice flowers.
In the springtime. You do havethe berry, very thick, but very
low growing, nice deciduous. Nowthe loser leaves in the fall a little
bit of fall color for you.Both of them have been on the market

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probably three or four years now,so there you know, we're using them
quite a bit. I like them. As a matter of fact, I'll
add a third one to that youcan take a look at as well.
Is grow low sumac and it growsbasically the same way, may get just
a little bit taller, and it'salso a kind of a groundcover type of
a deciduous plant that has a nicespring flower, a little bit of fall

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color, beautiful leaf. As amatter of fact, I replaced when I
replaced there, if you don't knowif it was boxed wood something evergreen.
Anyway, with a mass planning ofthese by our front door, and I
absolutely love them. So both ofthose erronias, those low growing erronias,
absolutely wonderful. I love them bothgreat spring color and the grow low sumac

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is a third one you could addto it, just to take a look.
All three are available for you outthere in the landscape, so they
should be able to find all threefor you. But I like them,
all three. I highly recommend them. How big do these choke berries get?
How tall do they get? Theseare things that are gonna stay low
like knee high ish O. Right. I don't want to have to trim
a mic I have the I'm hadto trin them three times a year.

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Yeah, that's what you get.You want the must grow. I'm assuming
you've got like one of the oldManhattan was his big round, glossy green
leaf. You get this, Yeah, you get that stuff growing. You
got to prune that two or threetimes a year to keep it controlled.
Not so with these. If anythingat all after they finished flowering. You
can go in and do a littlecutback if you wanted to in the spring,
that's all you have to do,but otherwise you just kind of let

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them do their thing. I planto like these grow low sumacs, which
are in the same category too.Basically I don't want to have to prune
them, so you know, maybeevery two or three years I do a
little nipping on the tops, butotherwise they'll be definitely less than waist high.
But those ronia is the same way, knee highest or so, and
basically a very low maintenance plan.You'll like them, that's what I would

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like. No, what kind ofberries do they have on them? Small
berry? And I guarantee you thatwhen they when they do fruit, that
the birds and other critters will takecare of them before you get a hold
of them. Well that's okay,yeah, but they'll they'll it's a very
quick it's not a messy plan.So as a matter of fact, I
look at the berries kind of asa very fast bonus because they don't last

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very long. They're in and out, they're gone. You can't eat them,
though, is that right? If? Yeah? Oh absolutely, yep,
sure can Okay, another question,what is the size of this pop
up garden that you've been talking about? The pop up garden is overall,
it's about twenty inches and it's squareat the base, so it doesn't take

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up much space. And then thehype wise, I'm thinking it's right about
I'm guessing about forty inches high orso, okay, so it doesn't take
up very much space. And it'sI'll tell you what I again, I
talk about things on our show thatI'm really impressed with, that I really
like. And this thing is builtreally well. It's gonna last for for

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folks that get this thing. I'mgonna wind up getting one for my mom.
I guarantee you for guarding. Andagain you get the four trays and
the and the planner in the middle. You can grow all kinds of great
stuff on there with no problem.But it snaps together. It'll last.
It's it's a good it's a good, good product. What's the length of
it? Like it looks like atower, like a four legged towers.

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It's a it's a slightly slope tothe middle. It's again, like I
say, about forty forty eight incheshigh at the top about two feet square.
I think it's seventeen inches at thebase and it has three pieces that's
snapped together. Then the pots sitsin the top, and then there are
um like almost look like planter boxesaround the outside of it. The click

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on or click off, so youcan put up to eight different boxes around
the outside of it as well.Again, if you if you have access
to the website or gets somebody totake you there, it's uh it just
go to it. It's my popupgarden dot com and they'll show you what
it looks like on there. It'sit's a pretty cool little planner. Okay,
I will check that out all right. Thank you very much for your

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help and I enjoy your show.Thank you. I appreciate the call.
And again in case folks didn't catchit, it's called one of them is
called Lowscape Mound and the other one'scalled ground Hugger or groundhog to Houston name
it. But it's a choke berryand again about twenty four inches high.
They'll get out about twenty four incheswider, so it's tough. It's hardy
to zone three. It's an aronia. Um. They'll even take a little

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bit of moisture. I think glossygreen leaves, white flowers in springtime,
pretty good, red fall color,a little bit of fruit on there.
But again, the native the it'sa it's a native selection, by the
way, the native. Yeah,glossy leaves. Uh, the yo.
Yeah, you'll see the flower comesout as the foliage is starting to come

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along, and then the berries goingto of that. You're you're gonna love
it, trust me, okay,because I'm going to have to have about
a dozen of them. Yeah,you'll you'll like it. It'll be it'll
be good planting. Great. Thankyou all right, an good talking to
you, Dick. Good morning,Dick. You still with us, Yes,

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sir, I'm still there. Howare you doing? Ron? Hey,
I'm doing good. How about you. Oh, I had a good
birthday. You must be busy inthe mornings. I kind of miss you.
Well, we are. We gotso many callers in the area.
It's hard to get everybody on.Yeah, I know, that's why,
you know, I just wanted tosay something, ron Uh, everybody.
I had a good birthday. Alot of cards and dub it was so

(32:43):
nice. I got to play musicyesterday, and you know, I'm meeting
a lot of people. I'm playingin about four different bands. Now,
well that's good because I'll keep youbusy. And of course that birthday was
on the fourteenth, if I'm notmistaken. Yeah, yeah, are you
going good? I'm glad you gotthrough to talk to us today because we
haven't had a chance to chat ina while. Well, yeah, i'll

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keep it. I'll try to callyou next week. Sounds good. Good
talk to Bye bye, take careMichael, good morning. Come on,
and Ron? How are you?Sir? If I was any better,
i'd now you don't want to bemean? Probably not a quick printer.
Please on tulips in memory of mydeceased mother who got me so interested in

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flowers, I'm gonna do some containeror tulips this year, and I've already
searched out bulbs, etc. SoI'm starting the process, but I want
your expertise please, Um, areyou gonna plant those in the fall?
I would assume yes, sir,Okay, yeah, container? How what

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are you going to do with thecontainers? When I mean, are you
gonna is it a permanent container thatstays there or are you just gonna do
something pots that you can take somewherethat's a pot, It's gonna be a
pot. I already purchased a beautifulceramic pot. I'm really playing trying to
plan this out six almost fifteen ahalf inches across, plenty deep um.

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I didn't know whether to leave iton my porch throughout the winter or put
it in my garage. Put itand it was taught from someone about using
a high perosity soil. As faras the soil goes, you know what,
they aren't picky and I would justuse a regular good pot. You
just use a top grade potting soil. Um, that's gonna work for you.

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A little bit of bone of ballfood in there. I like a
Spoema's bab tone. You can sprinklethat right in with the soil as you're
you know, mixing it all togetherand then planting the babs. We typically
overplant them when we do them incontainers like that for a better show.
And you're still going to do thesame depth six inches deep. I've got
I'll tell you what if you dothis, Michael, if you email me

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and I've got two tip sheets thatI can show you on doing an actual
spring garden where you would do tulipsand daffodils and some crocus together or the
tulips, and it tells you outover one of them. I'll send that
to you. Just email me,I'll get it back. I'll get it
back to you, all right.What's the email addressed? Please? If
you just go to six ten wtvn'swebsite, you'll find everything on there and

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then I'll get right back to you. Awesome. Thank you. We miss
you there and here all right.Appreciate you talking with us, and we'll
get you through with that Tula planner. Thanks all of our callers today,
Thanks our sponsors. Thanks of courseto Ella, because without Ella, our
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