MORE Adaptive Gardening for Seniors

Episode Transcript

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Good morning everybody, Welcome back.I'm Ron Wilson and you are in the
Gardener on news Radio six' tenWTVNA two to one w TV and is
our number jump on board talking aboutgardening. As I promised, he is
back with us. Who is he? You say, Well, a few
years ago I found this book andof course, you know, there's a
lot of us that are getting olderas far as gardeners, but we like

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to keep gardening right, but itgets tougher and tougher all the time.
Found a really really cool book talkingabout adaptive gardening for the geriatric gardening.
As we get older, what canwe do to make gardening easier for us
so we can keep doing it andkeep doing it and keep doing it.
And the gentleman who wrote the book, Dwayne Pancoast, was with us and

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he's with us this morning because we'regonna make an announced but he has now
a new version of the Geriatric GardenerAdaptive Gardening Advice for Seniors. It's called
two point zero. He's going totell us a little bit more about it.
Good morning, sir, Good morning, Ron. Hey, good to
have you on the show. Sothat sounds like since you wrote that first
book. You've picked up even moretips as you get older, not only

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getting older, but meeting more people. I've gotten a lot of them from
giving the garden club presentations. Yea, and people say, oh, I
do it this way, And gardenersare pretty good about sharing that kind of
information, aren't they. They sureare. And also just talking with gardeners.

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One of the things that I learnedfrom talking to a gardener who's a
friend of ours right here in townwas downsizing in place. Downsizing is one
of the decisions that older gardeners haveto make. Are we going to stay
in our house? Are we goingto move to a new house, We're

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going to get a townhouse, We'regoing to get an apartment. And if
you stay in your own house,you can have your own garden, but
you can also downsize it. AndI've got I devoted one chapter to how
she did it because it's just classic. A lot of people can do it.

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I think the only constraint on whetheryou can downsize at home is if
you have a bedroom or a bathon the first floor, because usually climbing
steps is one of the reasons whypeople first downsize, right and then the
garden follows when the book, I'vegiven some ideas for the person who downsizes

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by moving how they can alleviate someof the anxiety and emotional part of a
move like that. But I alsodevoted a chapter to downsizing in place,
because I think that's a that's agreat idea. Oh, I agree with
you one hundred percent. Now you'vegot it. You have a great Uh.

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If folks want to go to yourblog, it's the Geriatricgardener dot WordPress
dot com. And for our listenersthat don't remember that or can't write it
down, just email me and I'llget it back to you. We're you.
Just Google. If you'd google geriatricGardener, you'll all this will come
up for you. But it's theGeriatricgardener dot WordPress dot com and uh,
and you'll find out more about theDwayne and all. But just so folks

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understand, now, you you've beenin the green industry, uh, pretty
much all your life. Yes.I started my college career, as a
matter of fact, at what isnow the State University in New York College
of Environmental Science and Forestry. Backthen, in the late fifties or mid

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fifties, it was just a StateCollege of Forestry. As a landscape architecture
major. I found I couldn't drawafter couple of years and switched over to
radio TV and that's where I gotmy degree. So after working in radio
and television copywriting for over five sixyears, I got into the agency business.

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In nineteen seventy a tree and landscapecompany came to the agency that I
worked for, and they became aclient of mine for thirty five years.
Thirty six years wow. And thenwhen we parted company, the owner had

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since retired and we were good friendsfor his entire life. And two weeks
later I got another big tree inlandscape company locally, but also the first
one. We did a lot ofgreat market ideas, and so we were

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given opportunities to speak at various associationconventions and symposiums and symposia, and so
I got accounts all over the countrytree and landscape companies and also some of

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their trade associations and manufacturers and suppliersof their equipment. So I was in
that part of the business for whatfifty sixty years, And when I was
slowing down, I wanted to dosomething just for myself, because like that

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shark, if a shark stops swimming, it dies, and I've heard of
so many people who retired and ifthey stop working, they with months and
I wasn't going to do that.And I hit upon the adaptive gardening as

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something that was just emerging. Alot of people didn't know about it,
but a lot of people needed it. I figured the quickest way to get
going on it it was the blog. So I started the blog. And
then after three years of writing that, I knew that some seniors didn't use

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computers. So that's when I wrotethe book, the first book, right,
and it's a good one. Andof course we were talking about you've
got this revised reversion coming out nowthat's not going to be available to what
about ten more days or so?Right, well, I'm hoping early next
week. We're just waiting for abusiness situation where we're changing from my own

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company's e commerce to my own gotit and we're just waiting for the credit
card company to verify that they canmake the switch and that it works.
And I know when we had youon a couple of years ago talking about

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your first book that you had written, I had several emails that came back
and folks said that had ordered yourbook and thoroughly enjoyed a great tips in
there. And uh, and ofcourse you've added to that as well.
So when don't we take a breakwe come back, I'll let you share
a few of those tips that youhave added. There's a couple I want
to go back and talk about becauseI thought they were very, very important
from the original book. And thenwe'll remind everybody how they can find out

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how to get this new book.The new version that's coming out is called
The Geriatric Gardner too point zero MoreAdaptive Guarding Advice for Seniors. You don't
have to be a retired gardener.You can keep on going and going and
going, according to Dwayne Pancoast,And it's all happening here on News Radio
six to n WTVN our special guestthis morning, the Geriatric Gardener, Dwayne

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Pancoast. And of course Dwayne wason this a few years ago talking about
his first book that he had written, The Geriatric Gardener, Adaptive Gardening for
Advice for Seniors. Well, guesswhat he's got a new one out.
It's The Geriatric Gardener two point zeroMore Adaptive Guarding Advice for Seniors. And
he'll be available for you hopefully nextweek, and of course you can go
to his blog learn more about everything. It's the Geriatricgardener dot WordPress dot com.

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You know, I like the pointthat you make as I'm reading some
of your blogs and all about thefact that adaptive gardening is truly a work
in progress. That's right. Ourbodies are always changing, so we can't
just buy a pay our knee padsand figure it's one and done, because

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next year we're going to eat somethingelse. I'm a great fan of raised
beds, and well I was,Now I'm going more towards elevated beds.
These are raised beds on legs.I have a seven year old great granddaughter
who's been gardening since she was threeyears old, and she's never had a

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garden kneeling because they're my grandson builtraised beds, so they've always used these
raised beds. Now, when youget like me using a walker and you
want to sit down and garden,elevated beds being on legs, they're like

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window boxes on legs. They havean area underneath where you can put your
feet and you can sit perpendicular toit and garden, and that troll away
instead of kind of having to leanover and do it. Then I have
a niece she's well, let's say, midlife, and she has done her

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gardening in containers on the deck ofthe patio around her pool who raised above
ground pool. And she uses alot of elevated bats too. She has
more a plastic one that she boughtat one of the big box stores where

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they raised strawberries, and she hasa metal one that has a built in
trellis that they're raised tomatoes, peppers, pepper plants in and so they can
stand up to tend them, andthey can sit down if they want to.

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And the whole idea of adaptive gardeningis to work smarter, not harder.
And I've heard the term to tendyour garden instead of toiling in it.
Yeah, I like that. Whentalking with Dwayne Pancoast, here's the
Geriatric Gardener. Got a new bookcoming out next week, The Geriatric Gardener
two point zero more adaptive gardening Advicefor Seniors. You know, I think

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that you know when I look atand read about what you're talking about all
here. Of course, you mentionedthe fact that nobody has to be a
retired gardener, and you can keepright on going with all of these great
things you talk about. Adaptive gardeningis cool at any age. Don't you
look at this? I look atthis and say, you know what,
even though the title of the booktalks about, you know, adaptive gardening

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for seniors, you got to putin parentheses underneath that for young adults as
well, because if we kind offollowed along with your tips for seniors,
would make it a lot easier forthe younger gardeners right now as well.
It would not only easier, itwould allow them to work smarter instead of

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harder right from the start, andthey could also postpone or maybe even skip
some of these maladies that us olderpeople are suffering, because, first of
all, a lot of them,like skin problems, vision problems, knee

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problems, back problems, didn't justcome with our sixtieth or seventieth or eightieth
birthday. They started back when wewere young, when we were sun worshipers,
sunbathing without suns screens slithered on,and not wearing sunglasses. The sun's

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you reraise can ask a bait cataractsand macular degeneration and digging while kneeling on
the ground with no pads. Soif they start now they can maybe not

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have those problems, and construction costsare colored going down. So if you're
planning a renovation in your garden,renovate your pads to make them four feet
wide so that you can get throughthem with a wheelchair. Whopper you,

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I know it's not a lot ofpeople are saying, Oh, I'm never
going to need those. That's whatI said too. And sitting next to
you here in my office is mytrustee walker. And uh next well,
Monday, I'll put up a blogthat talks about making your paths handicap accessible,

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and that involves making them smooth.You know, gravel path is pretty
darn bumpy for anybody was a walker, wheelchair and even with a cane.
And so our papers papers are wonderful, but they've got spaces in between each

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one of the papers where a walkeror a wheelchair or a cane can get
caught. You know, you,You and I, You and I.
When we talked the first time aboutwhat the your original book, you brought
up a point there that I neverthought about as far as working down the
road. I mean, they're niceto have in the garden, but you
were talking about how proper lighting reallycan save you from a lot of issues

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as you continue to age as agardener by having just the proper lighting and
how to go about that. Sureprobably your sidewalk from the driveway up to
your front door, as these stakelights you push in the ground. They

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may be the solar ones that youcan buy at various drug stores and box
stores, but those solar lights,they don't come on when the sun's not
out, and where I live it'scloudy quite a bit at a time,
so it's better to get low voltageversions of them. They can by a

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wire and then plug into outdoor receptacleand if you even put a timer in
between so that they don't then notdut dust the dawn. They come on
when you want them to and offwhen you want them to, and the

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same should be go for a patio. If you have a ground level patio,
at the end of the patio,it's going to be either grass or
a planting bed, And if youdon't have writing around there, it's really

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easy for an older person to stepoff of it. And if you step
off with one foot, you're haveto fall because the ground is different,
it's softer, and the last thingyou want to do in the garden is
fall down. Yeah. And ifyou have a pond or any water feature,

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you can If it's a pond,you can use those steak lightings to
mark out the shape of the pondand prevent anybody from going from an unwanted
swim. If you've got a fountaintype water feature, use spotlights to light

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up the fountain at night, keepthe water on at night. You can
even get them that are lights thatare colored and change color just to get
it to stand out more so youdon't wind up take a little swim with
the fish. Yeah, because theydon't want you to swim in there with

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them either. Talking with Dwayne Pancoast, he is the genary gardner again,
the blog is the genericgardener dot WordPressdot com. All right, so if
you had thirty second periatric gardener?Right, did I say generic? Yep?
Yeah, there you go geriatric orgeneric. Well, you're not a
generic gardener geriatricgardener. My bad theredot WordPress dot com. Thank you Elle

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for catching that. If you addabout thirty seconds ago, which we do,
Uh, what kind of advice wouldyou give senior gardeners at this stage
plan your garden? YEA in theoff season, so that you know,
you know, look back on yourgarden last is what you did this year

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and what caused you to have achesand pains, and then read my book,
follow my blog and take the stepsthat you need to take. They're
really people with three types of problems. There's skeletal problems like joints and muscles,

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cardiovascular breathing problems, heart problems,and sensory problems, visual, mental,
even temperature. Some people can can'tstand hot weather. Don't garden in
the high weather. Go out earlyin the morning or late in the afternoon

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or other people are always cold.That's good reason to go out and the
heat of the afternoon and do yourgardening. Dwayne Pancoast, it's been a
pleasure having you on here. Thenew books coming out next week it's The
Geriatric Gardener two point zero more adaptivegardening Vice for seniors and trust me,

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for all the younger gardeners out thereas well. A lot of these tips
that are in here will apply toyou and make gardening easier for you as
well, and maybe hopefully uh giveyou the ability to garden even longer into
your life as well. Again,check out his blog. It's the Geriatricgardener
dot WordPress dot com. Uh Dwaynepancoastalways a pleasure. Appreciate it. Appreciate

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all your help that you're giving allus seniors when it comes to gardening.
And keep up the great work,my man. Thanks Ron, all right,
take care again. Hey you twoDwayne Pancoast, the not Generic the
geriatric Gardener, my bad. Allright, we take a quick break.
We come back. We'll jump intothe gardening phone lines at eight hundred eight
two three are eight eight hundred.I'm all out of it today six'

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ten WTVN here on news radio sixten eight two to one WTVN eight hundred
and six ten WTV and talking aboutyour gardening. Back to the ardening phone
lines, we shall go. Kgood morning, all right, are you?
I'm good? In you great?Fine? I have questions about hummingbirds,

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okay, in mid May along withmy next door neighbor. Today,
after I've put it up, Igot one humming bird and I've nursed in
one since she hasn't either had anyyou know I've had. I think this
week I probably must have had twoor three folks that said, you know
what, we've been doing the hummingbirdthings for years have had hummingbirds like crazy.
This year I've seen one or twoand that's about it. You know,

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what do we do? And ofcourse there's nothing else you can do
besides keep up what you've always doneand what you're doing right now, and
you know, to make sure thatyou've got the right environment. And so
many times a change, a minorchange in construction, changing the avenue in
which they typically fly through, building, anything like that, weather sometimes can

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redirect them sometimes that you wind upnot seeing them as they go through.
And remember they'll be migrating back throughas well, and there's a good plants
you'll catch them on the way back, hopefully as they come back through the
area again. But you know,okay, all I can suggest you do
is, you know, stick withit, keep doing what you're doing,
keep those plants out there available forthose hummingbirds, and hopefully, keeping your

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fingers crossed, we'll see them comeback. I have to admit. In
our garden, usually my neighbor,they do all kinds of hummingbird feeders.
We count more on the on theflowers in that uh so we get a
good combination both from both gardens.I haven't seen as many hummingbirds so far
this year as I typically have inthe past. I don't think their populations
are down. I don't think there'sany issues there as far as the number

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is. Nothing that I've read,but just haven't seen as many this year.
And you know, some years wesee a lot more than others.
But I'm the same with you.I mean, we've seen a couple,
but not as we have in thepast. But we'll continue with the feeders,
and we'll continue with all the plantsand keep our fingers crossed. And
in the meantime, a lot ofother pollinators and that are enjoying what the
hummingbirds typically enjoy, and hopefully they'llshow back up again. Mother On in

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California still has all of her Shehas not had any diminishing in population.
She still has a lot coming toher windows. Good for her, I
mean good for her, And againI don't otherwise, I don't have an
answer for you there. It's justa matter sticking with it and keeping your
fingers crossed, and hopefully they'll beback. The lightning bugs are back.
Oh yeah, you know what.And I I think I saw lightning bugs
earlier this year than I ever have. We did My husband is from California.

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They don't have him out there,and he was he moved back here.
He was thrilled, but he sawthat the first and the last two
years you have many and now he'sgreat. He's excited because they're back.
I love it. Those are thereare a lot. I'll tell you what.
It brings back memories as a kid, but it excites you as an
adult as well. Okay, appreciatethe call. Thank you for all the
information. All right, sure,all right, take care? Uh and

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Tom, Tom, good morning.Nice to talk to you. I'll talk
to you before, but speak aboutyour Eatric guarden, I'm eighty six away.
My walker threw away my cane,and I just go out there and
walk and bend over and plant myself. I've got about eighteen rows of a

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little bit of everything. And theonly problem is, uh, I've got
overhanging the musha bushes are right.My tomatoes aren't doing too good. They
don't get enough rainwater. Oh yeah, that's isn't an amazing You know you
can water and water and water MotherNature can come through and give us a
nice shower and the plants look totallydifferent. Yeah. But like I say,

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we haven't had. We had acouple of over ranges last week,
but always nothing really great. Istill say, you know, count any
kind of rainfall as a bonus,uh, you know, and keep up
the water and as needed. ButTom, good for you, man.
I appreciate you calling and letting usknow about that and keep it going.
Oh yeah, yeah, what Ido. I live in an apartment complex,
so I've got a cherry water aboutthem. They don't likes of the

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football field. So what I've doneis I've got cats now usually the hard
plastic litter that I come to sendthose containers. I've got six of those
and I from with water. Iput them on a leagon and I carry
the water out that way. Goodfor you, Good for you. I
tell you what. Keep us postinghow it turns out for you at the

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end of the summer. All right, I will I will run. Okay,
all right, Tom, good talkingto you. Keep up with the
good work. I love it,and you know that again. You know,
I think the thing about container gardening, I've always said this, it
affords all of us the opportunity todo some kind of gardening. That's where
raised beds container gardening comes in especiallywhen you get older, especially when you're
younger. You know that Dwayne wastalking about as a great granddaughter there,

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you know, gardening at seven.My grandsons are the same way, you
know, doing container gardening. Whenmy oldest one, when he was you
know, eight or nine months old, couldn't wait for Grandpa to show up
to show him his strawberries that hehad as a container, and he would
it was whiter green and pop itin his mouth and Grandpa and it's like
no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, we gotta wait
till the turn red. But neverthelessgetting involved, you know, with with

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container gardening to get them started.So you know, it affords us,
whether you're two or ninety two,to do some type of gardening. And
I think it's absolutely outstanding. Andlike he said, I love it throwing
down the cane. Let's get outthere and get it done. Do what
I need to do to get theplanning done. Good for you, thumbs
up. All right, quick break, we come back. We'll jump back
into the gardening phone lines at eighttwo to one wtv IN here on news

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It's always a great time. Theseare outstanding. They have musicians, they
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they used to do. Restrooms areavailable there for you as well. But
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the thirty third annual Garden Tour ofwester Flora. It's always a biggie back

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to the garden phone liongs we glow, go glow or go I believe it's
k again? Or no? Isit lynn? Which one? Are we
going to? Okak? There wego? Hi Hi. A few years
ago I planted some of that beautifulclematis that looks like the tiny white flowers
yes at bloom in August September.Yes, yes. And I also mixed

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in some honeysuckle with it. Idid it to cover up my neighbor's ugly
backfence. Okay, barter's on myyard. Problem is they don't like flowers,
and the flowers have gotten I meanthe plant has gotten up to the
top and every time they go by, they push it over and it's falling
down. I keep putting in cordswith hooks and eyes and I, you

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know, wrap it around that,but it still grows up because it's a
plant. And I'm concerned when thoseflowers start to bloom. What can I
do? Should I just let it, let it hang down on my side
as best it can? Or doI have to trim it back or what?
Because they don't like flowers. Youknow what you can do? You
prove that thing at all? No, okay, what you can do?

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And that's a sweet autumn climatis forfolks that want to know what that is.
But uh, and it's a vanillalike fragrance. It's absolutely wonderful.
And of course it grows like aweed. I've seen that thing grow twenty
feet in a year. I knowa lot of folks that will take that
and actually cut it back to afoot above the ground every year. And
that's rooming. Now what do Ido now? I want to see those

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beautiful flowers. Nothing you can dobesides just try to pull it back over
you're right, and wait it backover on your side so that you can
enjoy the flowers while it's in andand then obviously clip those off or whatever.
But I don't know what to tellyou to do. But next year,
besides the fact that if you cutthat thing back, you can control
it so it doesn't hang over thetop of the fence and get in their

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way as far as the flowers,because like I say, it grows,
which you know that like a weed, and by cutting it back, it'll
cover up just exactly what you've gotthere. Now it won't be quite as
dense, but it won't also begoing up and falling back over again because
you've controlled it. That's what Iwould look to do. But for right
now, all you can do isI mean, I don't want us to

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tell you to do besides just tryingto pull that thing back over and have
it just come. You know,it's hanging on these cords that I put
right. You know, as itdoes, it goes down and it gets
even thicker the one more. Itcan't even go root. But so I
just have to leave it that waythen, and I can't let it grow
up naturally. No, no,I mean that's obviously it's going to get

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too much out of the way.I you know, I have seen people
take those things and literally shape theminto a almost into a shrub by just
sharing it six foot fence and it'sgot twelve sections. It's huge. Yep.
Well, I mean, if youcan get it just to spread out
and not go up, you gotit made. But again, don't don't
hesitate to cut it back hard inthe springtime and try to control it that

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way, because it can only growso much during the season. And literally
I have seen people that have iton a right down the street from us
have it on a farm fence andevery every late winter or early spring he'll
go in and cut that thing back, so all you see are these twelve
inch stubs. And by right nowthat thing is covered over the farm fence,
you know, and it goes outabout eight feet on both sides of

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each individual plant. It's got itcovered over, and alse woll start the
flower for us here very shortly,and then he'll do it again next year.
He's done it for years and yearsand years, and it's just perfect
for what he does there, andthe coverage is great. So I'd look
to do that next year and thenyou won't have to worry so much about
it, you know, taking overand the neighbors not liking what they're seeing

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there. I don't know a Sodid you mention about the Clintonville Garden Tour
tomorrow? I did not. It'stomorrow, okay to five. It's free.
You can get maps. There arefifteen places, and they have even
a place with the railroads and avegetable garden and a farm garden. And
it was in the Clintonville newspaper thatI have right in front of me.
They can get maps at the library, the Clintonville Library. So go to

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the Clintonville Library and you'll be ableto get a map. From there.
And the tour itself is free,Yes it is, it says right here.
It's free and self guided. Youcan visit as many as you want.
There are fifteen. Some have alive music and it's going to be
spectacular, it says. And youcan read about it if you want in
the Clintonville Booster. You can getit online, all right, and it's

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what time does it start? Noonto five? Noone to five? Got
it? I appreciate you telling usabout that, all right, good luck
with that. And again, thesweet autumn climatis absolutely outstanding plant. It's
extremely aggressive. I guarantee you inabout three weeks, I'll have it as
my plan of the week because Ilove that vine. But it will take
over. But I always, Ido always remind folks that you can cut

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that thing back literally to nothing,it'll come right back up for you.
And I have seen people actually shareit and keep it more like a kind
of a hairy looking shrub, becauseit just grows like crazy. I saw
folks on me the pictures of it. One time they had taken a gazebo,
a really nice gazebo, and putone on each corner of the gazebo

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and let it grow over the entiregazebo and actually sheared it so that it
looked the same shape as the gazebo, like very formal. And when that
thing was green and with just thegreen leaves, was really cool because it
just looked like it was just theleaves that formed the gazebo. And then
of course when I got those whiteflowers and that vanilla fragrance, and every

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year they flower a little bit sooner, a little bit sooner, but when
it did that, it was absolutelygorgeous, unbelievable. And the fragrance is
unreal sweet auto clematis, but itis very, very very aggressive, so
keep that in mind no matter whereyou plant it. Got about ben and
a half to go, Lynn,Good morning, Yeah, real quick.
My last couple of years, mydeal has been amazing, and I've talked

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to other people. Bill has donenothing. It's like, what happened?
And what can I do next year? Your dial? Yeah, okay,
so it hasn't done anything for youthis year. No, My basil's great,
my child's are great, My onionsare great, my shoots are great.

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My deal, do you plant itfrom seed every year? Do you
plant it from plant both okay,and neither one gave you success. Nope,
not this year. I didn't knowif it was too hot, too
soon, too wet too soon.My first initial initial thing is when we
were staying cooler and more wet.Could that have been an issue for you

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at that point where the other oneswould have You know, the basil will
take that although they like a littlewarmer temperature, but they don't like wet
feet. So you know, sometimeswe get into some some of the mildews
on basil. But you know,the being too wet could have been an
issue. The heat, I don'tknow it pretty well. It tolerates the

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heat without too much of a problem, so I don't I don't think that
would have been the issue. ButI think it's interesting that you, I'm
trying to figure this out here,that you didn't get any success at all,
whether it was planted by plant orby seed. Why that? Yeah,
why that wouldn't That doesn't make senseto me at all. And so
they died? Did it die?The ones that you planted by plant or

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just sat there, they've basically havejust been sitting there all year, I
mean, and seats did nothing,so they didn't come up at all and
so did you pull up You knowwhat I would if they're not doing any
good and there's nothing to harvest themthere, I'd pull one up just to
see what the root system's like,see if it actually rooted in. I

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mean, it's not doing you goodat this stage, and take a look
at the roots and maybe that'll bea little bit more of a telltale as
far as what is happening. Youknow, whether we have a root system
on there or not, but thatyou know when that happens from both the
seat and the plant. My firstinclination is being too wet, poor drainage.
But take a look and see whatsee if you can see anything from

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that, pull them one them outof the ground. Okay, Well,
thank you so much. All right, Lynn, good talking to you.
And you know that's a that's acrazy one, no doubt about it.
Hey. You know I always suggestfolks to let us know when you have
a plant that you like or don'tlike. And this week one of our
listeners, Carol Warner, sent mea great picture of her tomato plant that
she's grown for the first time andjust picked a tomato on the seventh of

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July. Said it's one of theearliest tomatoes she's ever had. The tomato
is a big beef and she slicedit and showed me the picture. Very
meaty, looks good. I knowa lot of folks who grow big beef
in around a long time. Afriend of mine, it does, a
commercial produce, grows big beef asone of his standards. But she loves
it, so she said, Irecommend this one for an early one and

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very meaty, mid size. Lookat big beef. So there you go,
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Keep planting those native plants, beepollinator friendly, pamper your worms, get
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