Right Plant, Right Place!

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Episode Transcript

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Good morning, everybody. Welcome.I'm Ron Wilson, and you are in
the garden here on the radio sixten WTVNA two one WTVN eight hundred and
six ten wtv and oh you alreadyknew those numbers. I don't even know
why you threw them out there.On this Memorial weekend, I hope you
have lots of plans for the weekend, including I hope your plans include getting
out to your local independent garden centerif you haven't done it already, and

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getting those flowers and get those flowersplanted, keep working on that vegetable guard
and get those containers planted. Planetthree or two or three, all that
kind of stuff. Make that apart of your weekend, and of course
grilling it out, get together witha family. In some cases, local
pools start to open up here veryshortly, maybe even this weekend, be

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a little cold in the water.I'm not sure i'd be getting in there,
but you know, just making agood weekend, and don't forget bottom
line is what this weekend's all about, you know, remembering those that made
it, gave us our freedom,gave it there all to give us our
freedom to do what we're doing todayto talk to you about yardening, to
be here to do this show,to be able to get outside and work

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in your yard and garden and grillout and enjoy the pool and the family
in the old nine yards. Andif there's a parade, ceremonies, whatever,
today, tomorrow, Monday in yourneighborhood, be sure to try to
tend one of those as well.I think it's it's good for us to
just all take a moment and andgive thanks where it is necessary. Speaking

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of giving thanks, I always givethanks to this gentleman for being on our
show, because it is time forthe bucket. Joe Boggs report. That
would be Joe Boggs, the OhioState Universe Extension, co creator of Matha
Coffee Emporium. His website is BigOld bygl DOTSU dot edu. He is
the poster boy for OSUE Extension Ladiesand gentlemen, the one only mister Joe

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Boggs, Well, you get mein trouble, that poster boy thing,
you know, the emails will startrolling in. I mean I would never
want to get you in trouble,mister Boggs, Well, I mean representative.
Maybe I don't know. But whatis going on out there right now,
and it just it seems like ifit's not one, thing is twenty

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right. Well, I don't know. We were talking before you came on
with us, Ellen, I weretalking about the Christmas Vacation movie. What
about that? On Well, Iwas being the aunt that shows up,
you know, says, is itRosti's birthday party? Everybody's here, say
hi to everybody. Hi, everybody, Chris Christmas at the end of May.

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I'm not even you can watch thatmovie anytime during the year. Then
she said, Rudolph that's her favoritebecause that's she had that when she was
a kid. I still watch Rudolph, that's true. Yeah, my family,
Yes, and the bumble bumbles bounce, bumbles, bounce, But my

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favorite part is a nothing. Ohmy gosh, I don't even know.
Well, you know, okay,so this is really interesting talk about a
segue. So yeah, I'm sorryto take you off on a tangent like
that. No. No, Imentioned a Wizard of Oz the Flying Monkeys.

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I don't what was the head monkey'sname, Ralph? I don't know.
Actually, I actually have a ceramicporcelain thing I bought many years ago
of that flying monkey. It's reallycool. His name was Nico. What
was it, Nico Nico? Okay, now that I didn't that, you

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know, I thought the monkeys werethe best part of that whole that whole
movie. It was the best part. But the the Oreo guards I like
them too. Bo bo, allright, you gonna segue from that into

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bugs and diseases. Well, I'lltell you it's it's pretty simple. Yesterday
I was walking around at one ofour local parks, and you know,
nine bargains pine bark is a nativeplant, right, I mean we said,
we say it's native, but I'veactually never found it in the wild.
Now, the High Department Natural Resources, I've gotten over the years a

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few locations kind of down along theOhio River and just just never came across.
I'd love to, I'd love totake the pictures out there. But
regardless, one of my favorite plantsearly on was Diablo nine bark Diablo because
you know, for some reason,I have a I have a propensity to
like these purplish leaves. Well,I do like the name Diablo. But

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yesterday I was looking at some Diablothat that definitely looked like the name in
terms of where they were going,and I tell you they were they and
it reminded, did me. Here'sthe segue get ready, I hope you're
sitting down the segway was parts ofit looked like it was snow covered.
You just think the bumble is goingto show up, right, snow covered.

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Yeah, So, and that includedthat included some of the bloom,
because it has beautiful blooms. Startsout kind of white and then it gets
kind of purple just in the lastcouple of weeks than I have in a
long time. You know, itis interesting. Now we have a diablo
in the backyard that was in thefront yard, and of course what we're

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talking about the white let's go backto that. So there is a powdery
mill do and you know, ronwe usually kind of just, uh,
you know, we don't give alot of time to powdery meal dow's,
do we. You know, normallythey're just not something that causes great harm.
There are some exceptions, obviously,but but you know, for example,

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the powdery meal do that invariably willshow up on a common lilac.
You know, later in the seasonyou'll see the white leaves, but you
know, it doesn't really hurt theplant. It's a surface condition, and
that's true for I need to becareful in case there any any pathological types
listening, which of course we're includingthat bunch, right, but I have

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definitely just I need to be carefulbecause I want to be Most powdery mildews
on ornamentals of woody ornamentals just don'tamount to a whole lot, right.
I mean, however, the powderymill do on some and I need to
be clear about that. For example, Diablo is particularly susceptible. It is

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a very aggressive powdery mil do.It actually causes you know, covers the
leaves, causes them to become deformed. And I mean you get this.
It's just it looks like snow.It looks like you could have an avalanche,
you know, with the powdery mildo free structures and just the entire
mycelia just really covers and then caninfect the stems. You can get die

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back from it. It's just nota good thing. But here's here's the
key in management. I hope youcome up with a key, because folks
and the garden centers are saying,why is he doing that? Thus,
Well, well, the key islocation. You know, if it's all
about location, location, location.That plant was originally front and center in

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front of our house, in frontof our porch, but it was shaded
quite a lot, and it wassort of in an area where where you
could have fairly high humidity maintained becausedrying conditions were not the best. Now
here's the other part about powdered mildews. We tend to think of fungal diseases,
you know, fungi, and ofcourse even the name mildew makes you
think, you know, wet conditions. Actually, most powdered mildews do better

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if it's dry. But you haveyou have, you can have periods of
high humidity, and that high humiditystays around the foliage or the parts of
the planting has become infectable. That'swhat was happening to that nine bark in
front when I had it in frontof the house, and frankly, you
know we were going to get ridof it. It was it would become

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infected so heavily every year that itreally looked awful. But you know,
I still liked it and thought,well we'll give it one last shot,
So I moved it to the backleet yard full sun it has an exposure
that's east to west and the windcan blow easily from west to east.
And you see where I'm heading withthis. It was dry. There's no

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infections this year. They have notbeen infections for years. Wow. Yeah,
I mean I remember when we firstplanted that because you were experimenting with
some of the fungicides. Well yeah, and I think you were using infuse
and a couple other things, tryingto see exactly and I remember that.
Yeah, that's right. We triedout and it wasn't just me. There

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were a few nurseries. Yeah,right, now, we were trying some
things and and the big challenge withfungicides are that they can be very effective,
yes, but but you can't overcomeenvironmental conditions. Always if the environmental
conditions, remember the disease triangle.And of course I think there's a break
coming on. I'm looking at mywatching this if there is, all right,

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so do you want to go beforeor after? Do you want me
to continue? Let's go ahead andtake that break. By the way,
that was originally called still is diabolo? What what diabolo? Yeah, let's
look it up. That was theoriginal and then it was kind of Morphlo.
Yeah, I didn't I remember.Okay, I'm gonna write that down.

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Yeah, just check that out sometime. Just a little tribute, all
right, quick break, We comeback more with the Buggy Joe Boxy part
here on news Radio six ten WTVN. Hello, I don't know. I
only had a brain. I amhere, I only had a brain.
I know. I think that alot. I mutter it quite a bit

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when I'm out there looking at thingsand can't quite figure out what is happening.
I get told that a lot.Well, we know, well,
and it's not just our brain,right, I mean much of what we
know, of course, with thispowdery Mill dual nine bark Uh, you
know comes obviously from a lot ofwork that's been done on it, including

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um some very a very interesting studywas published in twenty twenty one. It
did show clearly that there are awide range of fungicides that can be effective.
But I want to go go backand revisit very quickly that that fungicides
are are used as um as kindof an additional protection. But but they

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they you really, you really stressthe the efficacy if you put a plant
in a situation where the environment makesit more likely for infections to occur.
So that's the case again with Idon't believe the nine bark in front of
my house. As I recall,we did try some funchicides. Didn't work,

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and it didn't work. No,it kind of suppressed it, but
not enough to say, Yeah,just like you said, why put it
somewhere the plant where it's going tobe stressed to get this and why put
yourself in a situation where you're goingto be spraying in every spring to try
to protect it from getting it?Put in your right location, you got
it made exactly exactly. Another thingthat happened this past week, and I

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just I we were amazed. SoI belong to a team, an extension
team called the Bucke Environmental Horticulture Team, and this is you know, all
the usual suspects, many of thewhom you've had on your show, Amy
Stone and Eric Draper and quite afew again familiar names, And so we

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had a strategic planning meeting to youknow, try to work through what do
we want to be like the nextthirty years. Because this team has been
together for thirty plus years. Sowe had it at the Mohican uh State
thirty years absolutely. Yes, hyes, I might be moving a little

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more slowly. I okay, Iadmit that, but uh, but we
had it at Mohican State Park MohicanState Lodging Conference Center, which is a
wonderful location. I mean, ifyou're I just have to say, if
anybody's planning, you know, aconference, that's a place to consider.
But Mohican State Park surrounds it,and uh, And so we took the

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advantage of the location and periodically wouldtake some walks to sort of because you
know, strategic planning that can bereally tough in terms of thing focused at
all. And so walking in thewoods though run I'd never seen this before,
beneath the sugar maples. Of course, you know, we don't have
as many sugar maples down southwest Ohioas you find in the northeast part of

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the state right or even in centralOhio. But the number of leaves on
the ground, and very specific sugarmaples, not red maples, not silver
maples, but sugar maples. Andwhen you looked at the leaves, you'd
see that the part of that leafthat attaches to the stems, the petiole,
little tiny part of that leaf thatkeeps it hanging on the tree.

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I mean you looked at the leavesare on the ground. The petioles were
extremely short. If you look veryclosely, you'd see that they were a
little bit hollowed out. Well,the culprit is something called the maple petiole
bore, which you know, we'renot very creative in these common names,
right, but we want people toremember them. It's a little salt fly
larva and it bores in that petioles. It's nowhere else. Now if you

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raked up all the leaves, youwouldn't really do anything because once they hatch
the the suft fi larva stays upin the longer piece of petty ole that
still hatched the tree. But theplant making is this was in this was
in the forested area. Now,you know, you know I've seen this
in landscaping. In fact, Iposted a big old alert about it about
a week ago where you know sugarmaples and are landscaping. Uh, you

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know, quite a bit of leaveson the ground. But of course,
you know, I want to quicklysay that this does not cause any harm
the overall health of the tree,even though it looks like a lot of
leaves in terms of some total ofthe canopy. It's probably never more than
ten percent, if that much.And even at ten percent, you know
a person might well they lost youknow, one tenth of their leave as

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well. The tree can lose alot more leaves and still you know,
remain healthy. It just it justdraws your attention to it. But I
had never seen it in a forestedarea before, so I wanted to bring
it up because if people are hikingthis weekend, you know, we could
be getting some calls and emails.You know why, you know, why
are the maples dropping their leaves atthis time of the year. It was

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that dramatic run some of them.Yeah, like I said, I'd never
seen it in the woods. Butyou know, here's a reminder that some
of the things we see in landscapes. You know, well, this is
a native insects, so why wouldn'tit be in the woods. But as
you know, populations rise and fallon our native insects from year to year,

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and so it would appear in thatsection of Ohio well, some pretty
high populations this year. Another insectI'm going to post on perhaps this coming
week. I love tulip poplars,one of my favorite trees or tulip tree,
you know, at the yellow poplar, same tree, and you can

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find twice in a single season theselittle kind of blackish weevils that are that
feed on the leaves and they produceholes. They produce holes sometimes it look
like being shaped or half moon shapedholes, and those are called yellow poplar
weevils. And here again in thatsection of Ohio. Now it's a native

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insect. The populations this year lookto be pretty high. It's also a
leaf miner, so the larvae,the immature stage, mines between feeds between
the upper and lower leaf surface,so they make these really big blotch mines.
But it's the adults that really dothe damage. They overwinter feed in

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the spring and they lay their eggsand you get the larvae, and the
adults that come from those larvae feedagain probably in another week to two weeks
and really can make the trees looklike they're burnt, almost like they're flamed
up. Normally they don't cause anysignificant injury, but of course during you

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know, a what we call anoutbreak, people can certainly see the damage.
They also will feed on magnolia andfast surpass. I haven't really ever
seen significant numbers on sassafras, butmagnolia is even in the landscaping, can
be pretty heavily hit by this yellowpop. We've seen it more on sweet

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bays. You know, that's thatthey love sweet bay magnolia. And and
of course you know you look upthrough the tree and what you'll see the
leaves will kind of look tattered becauseyou can get enough feeding until pieces of
leaves drop. I'm in tatters.I'm tattered. No, I was saying
rolling stones shattered. Oh, Iwas back to the flying monkeys. I

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don't know why that. I wasn'tsure getting picked up and dropped by the
monkeys, right, How did thatdid that? It's not something we should
concern ourselves with because they typically don'tkill the plant again makes it look pretty
bad, though, you know that'strue, and that is a very very
good point. In fact, thevast majority of our paths of trees and

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shrubs don't kill them. Non nativeslike emerald ash bore oil certainly, but
native insects they can make them lookbad for maybe a year or two.
But you know, we always wealways say don't panic because trees can survive
quite a bit of the defoliation ifthey're healthy. And of course that part

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is important relative to landscaping, youknow, putting trees like we just talked
about with the shrubs in good locationswhere they can thrive well. Even if
there is a little bump in theroad, you know, with a severe
pests or disease problem, they usuallyrecover fine. And uh and and next
year you might not even see themat all. Not the trees. Oh,

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the insects, the insects. Ijust realized what I said there.
We represent the field. Yeah,there you go. Website is bigle bygl
dot OSU dot edu. Have agreat Memorial Day weekend, Ron, you

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have a great weekend and a greatweek. Take care buggy. Joe Boggs
OSUE Extension quick break, we comeback. Phone lines open for you at
eight two one WTVN, eight hundredand sixty ten wtv in here on these
radio six ten WTVN. You know, we brought up a good point there
when we're talking Joe about the sprayingthe plants for you know, Powdery Mill
doing all and and it's true andI remember that thing with the diablo many

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many many years ago because I wasworking with him at the time, trying
to figure out what fungus I workedbest. But the bottom line was,
you know, right plant, rightplace. As soon as he moved that
thing and got out in full sun, didn't see it anymore. And so
you know, you kind of youwant to keep that in mind when you're
doing these plants. Any plant thatyou do, do your homework so that
you know where you're planning it.It's the right plant, right spot.
You know, every week we picka plant of the week, and this

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week I didn't pick a plant ofthe week because the plant of the week
for this weekend, hopefully you're gonnaget your local garden centers continue to do
planting. Is exactly that right plantis our plant, pick of the week,
right plant for the right location.You know, impulse buying at the
garden centers happens. I get it. I do that myself. I've been

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out there and saw some things thatjust said, wow, I'm trying to
work that in somewhere. But Ido try to find the right environment for
the plants or the plant successful andI am successful as well. But if
it's a plant that you know,you're gonna have to prune all the time
to keep it small enough to keepit in the space. And you're really
got to hack that thing back allthe time, where you got to spray
it on a regular basis to keepthe diseases off or it can always get

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some insect or whatever. Why dothat? You know, you're just it's
frustrating for you, and why doyou have to go through all that?
So right plant, right place isour plant pick of the week. And
I can't encourage you enough. Wetalk about it all the time on our
show. Pick in the right plantfor the right place. But you know,
really doing your homework when you're outthere, and if you find something

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something impulse buying that you like andyou just grab it, you take it
home, still do your homework,find out everything you can about it,
and then find out where that perfectspot is within your landscape or is something
that you know you can at leastget close to as far as the perfect
spot for the plant. But thatis our plant pick of the week,
the right plant for the right location. Real quick before we go to another

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break, Groovy Plants Ranch next weekendis having their Lavender Days Daze. They're
gonna feature lavender products lavender plants,food trucks, all that kind of stuff.
For more information, gout to theirwebsites Groovy Plants, ranch dot com
and get more info about that.And I also want to remind you that
next weekend, on Saturday, wewill be at Dill's Greenhouse thirty three in

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Reggor Rogue. That's right, we'regonna be doing our show Their Life from
ten until noon. Stop out andsay hello, I'm assuming Grant's going to
be our engineer out there. Wealways have fun. He and I.
We always do a little herb tastingtest while we're out at the Dills.
So I get several herbs and thenI have Grant to taste them and tell
us what it tastes like and figureout what it is. We've had fun
doing that, and of course thefolks that Dills are always great and it's

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good time being there. And Jerryalways puts us in the hottest spot of
the entire location, which is okay, we understand, but he does it
on purpose. But we still havefun, so you can't stop us having
fun. So we're gonna be atDill's Greenhouse next Saturday, Regga Road thirty.
It's a corner of thirty three inRegga Road. You can't miss it,
great big changeable sign up front,the digital sign which you'll see it

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from ten until noons. To stopout and say hello, quick break,
we come back. We'll jump rightback into the garding phone lines. Larry
and Pat hang on here in thegarden with Ron Wilson on News Radio six
ten WTVN. Just a reminder comingup the top of the hour our special
guest today backyard, right in ourown backyard. She's a clematist specialist.

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She's been doing this for a longtime. Deborah Hardwick is going to join
us this morning. She's a clematarian. We're gonna find out all about growing
clemat in our area. I haven'ttalked about that in a long time.
It's going to be an honor tohave her on our show. She knows
her stuff. In the meantime,talking about you at eight two WTV and
Larry, good morning, Hi,Ron, can hear me? Okay?

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Yes, sir, I've got ilive up in Johnstown, heavy clay soil,
and I've got an American sycamore thatI put in three years ago.
The first year it was kind ofslow to start and then the second year
was great. This year it startedit butted up really nice, and then

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I've been out of time. ButI came back in the bottom two thirds
of the leaves, it looks likeI lost a lot of them. Could
cold or frost cause that to happento that tree? Could you have freeze
damage? You could? But what'sinteresting is why would it be on just
the bottom half of the tree.If anything at all, it would affected

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the outer edges and the top ofthe tree more so than just the bottom
branches of the tree. Did theleaves curl or do anything unusual? They
just try kind of got brown andcurled a little bit, and it looks
like I've got a little new growthcoming where the where the dead stuff is.
But I just thought, I thought, well, Gus, maybe it

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was just so cold, you know, low. But to your point,
I mean, the top third ofthe tree is very, very healthy.
I mean, the leaves are comingin really nice. It's just the bottom
two thirds that are impacted. Anyweed killers applied water soluble weed killers to
the lawn um. And the reasonI asked sometimes that could I was gonna

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say, sometimes if the temperatures youput those down into the temperature you get
really hot the next day can actuallyuh gas can form and volatize and actually
come up a little bit. AndI've seen that happen on some planet.
Now I'm stretching doing that one becauseit's early, but that's that's the possibility
as well. One more I'll throwit out at you. They do get

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a leaf disease called anthracnose. It'svery common and I've seen it in sycamores
already, and it causes you'll seethe leaf kind of turn brown in a
couple of places and to just crinkleup, and it's kind of the yes.
Some will hang on the tree andthen a bunch of them will drop.
It doesn't die, and all ofa sudden you see more comeback out
again. You finally get through it. Asher going through that right now,

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I'm starting to see some of thatsycamores could be doing that as well.
That could be a possibility. Whatyou can do is if two things.
One to grab some of the leavesthat are still green and with some of
that brown in it. Grab afew of those and they get to a
local garden center or the extension office. Let somebody take a quick look or
take some pictures of them and thetree itself and the email me or again

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extension let them take a quick lookat it. But if it's anthracnose,
it's not we don't spray for it. I mean, it's just one of
those things you just don't spray for. It's already there now. Uh.
And like I said, those alldrop you usually will come back out into
leaf. With sycamore trees. Sometimesif it gets really bad. Um.
I have seen some smaller branches diefrom it, but otherwise it doesn't take

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the tree out. It's usually justa more esthetic than anything else. Yeah.
I think it was just kind ofkeeping it water, you know,
because it's it's been pretty dry andit's gonna get pretty hot. But I
appreciate go ahead, I appreciate theadvice, and uh because I was just
looking forward to a big, giganticshade tree in our front yard. So

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um, but thanks again, Ron, have a great holiday weekend. Hey
you two, And I'll tell youwhat I again. I love those sycamores.
I think they're absolutely outstanding. Ilove the tree. It's a big
leaf and a lot of feaks.Folks don't like that because of that big
leaf when it drops in the fall. But I love the bark. I
mean they look like ghosts in thewinter time alone, the creek banks at
all because of that white bark andall of it. Absolutely gorgeous tree.

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And again, if it is tracknow should not be an issue. But
your point being about the watering,it's a good one because I got it
written down on my notes here.We are dry and we need the rainfall.
And if you're not watering, youneed to be out and doing some
watering right now. It needs toheal. All right, Well, thanks
a lot, You're welcome. Hey, you too, good talking to you.
Bye bye, Pat, Good morning, Hey, good morning, run,

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and happy Memorial Day weekend. Whata beautiful weekend start. I think
we're gonna have a good one.I think so too, But I don't
know if this is common or not. I've got flocks that I've been letting
grow around a tree, and it'sabout a fifteen foot diameter round now,
But all of a sudden, I'vegot grass growing up through it, and

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I mean getting real tall above theflocks. I don't know how to get
rid of that without hurting the flocks. It's a creeping flocks, yes,
okay, there's there are a coupleof products on the market you'll find the
garden centers that you can use.They're over the top sprays and he's over
the hop sprays only kill weedy grasses. So when you get a situation like

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that where you have the groundcover orthe flocks, even within the vegetable garden,
you'll just check the label to seewhat they've been tested on. But
you can go in and spray rightover the top and it takes out the
grass but does not bother the plantsbelow. Now again, read the label,
and I'm pretty sure creeping flocks ison the label. Plab about two
or three hundred plants that they've testedit on. If it doesn't have it

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on the label, just try iton the corner of the flocks, just
sprayed a little bit, given acouple of days, see if it does
anything to it. I seriously doubtthat it will. But because it's you
can use a lot of stuff.But one is called fertile Loams over the
top and the other one is boneyes, and I think there's is called grass
beater if I'm not mistaken. So, and both are sold at the locally

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independent Garden center, so fertile loamsover the top or Bonneides grass beater,
and again they're over the top.Sprays may take a couple applications, but
it takes the grass out, butit doesn't take the other plants out.
Awesome, that's great, Thank you, all right, Pat, you're welcome,
and I'm glad for the call,because that's sometimes that can be a

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real pain. You know, you'vedone all this, You've got this groundcover,
and the grass, whether it's fromseed or the rhizomes going through,
just pops up. And you know, how do you get that out of
there? Because you can't spray avegetation killer, you wind up killing everything
that's in the bed. And thiswas developed and again it only kills grass,
all right, So it only killsgrass, but it doesn't hurt quite

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a few other plants. It's amazinghow big that list is. But again,
if you don't see it on thelabel or go to their website where
whoever you decide to buy it from, just to do I always say,
just do a little experimenting on thecorner in one of the plants, a
little spray and see if it's givena couple of days, if it doesn't
do anything. You're good to goand use it, but many times with
those weedy grasses, it'll take acouple applications to finally get it out of

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there. But between something like thatand of course pre emergent herbicides for the
seeds that come up during the andyou've got to be careful too with pre
emergent nervous sides because they are aren'tlabeled for groundcover. A corn gluten meal
is. It's the only all natural, all organic seed pre ventner that is

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pretty much labeled for about anything,any kind of groundcover or whatever it may
be. But the two of thosetogether should help to really keep that down
for you. But again, fertilehomes over the top, and I think
the new ones when they had itis over the top two if I'm not
mistaken. And then boneyed bo nIde is the other chemical company and both
at independent garden centers, and I'mpretty sure that was called grass beater,

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But you got both those that choosefrom, So keep that in mind and
it will really help you out.All right. Don't forget this is a
Memorial weekend. You still got plentyof time to get down and plant that
vegetable garden. You still have plentyof time to get down and plant those
annuals. You still have plenty oftime to plant the tree or two or
three, or the right plant inthe right spot. Get out to your
local, locally owned independent garden centersthis weekend. I think you will find

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quite a selection yet of all ofthose out there for you. Plenty of
time to plant. As a matterof fact, you know my theory.
I'll continue to plant, especially inthe vegetable garden or annuals that I find
out there, right up till aboutthe fourth of July. That's using my
cutoff dates, so that gives usanother four weeks or so for planting.
Obviously selection gets a little bit smaller, but it is out there for you.
So get out this weekend. Plentyof time to get out and continue

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to plant, have at it,and let mother nature hopefully watered enforce here
coming up in the next week.If not, you're gonna need to do
some water in quick break we comeback. She's gonna be with us,
Debra Hardwork. We're gonna talk aboutHardwick talking about clematis or clematis here in
the garden with Ron Wilson,