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Good morning everybody, Welcome back.I'm Ron Wilson, and you are in
the garden here on news radio six' ten WTVN. You know, if
a new plant comes along, itlook looks like it's gonna be a really
good one, or something we've tried, or a new tool or whatever,
or a new book. I alwayslike to share that information with you.
And a couple of weeks ago,we were down at the convention Center for

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Cultivate, which is an international show. You learn all about a new plants
that are being introduced into the market. You learn about new greenhouse information and
planters and a lot of pottery andplants and things like that anyway, and
you'll find some new tools there aswell. Well, I'm going down the
aisle and I see all this abunch of people gathered around a booth,

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so obviously got my attention as well. So I kind of looked through the
crowd and I see this gentleman inthere demonstrating a garden's fork basically, but
the way it is designed. He'snot doing hardly anything his garden fork,
and he's tilling up soil and pickingthings up and do it all kinds of
crazy things with it really cool,So everybody cleared out that I got a

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chance to take a look at it, and very very interesting. It's called
the Earthlifter Tool and it's for easierdigging obviously and lifting and all. And
you can learn more about it atearthlifter dot com. But I asked him
if he could come and talk tous about it today on our show,
and he said absolutely. He isNeil Bevilaqua and he is the inventor and

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creator of the Earthlifter Tool. Goodmorning, sir, Hey, how you
doing. I'm doing great, Thankyou very much. So you got to
tell me, first of all,it's always fun to find out, you
know, I look at something likethat and say, man, I could
have come up you know, Iwish I'd have invented that because it makes
so much sense. What did ittake to come up with this? And
why did you even think about comingup with this great tool? Okay,

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So I not to get too longof a story here, but my background,
my educational background is I have aa bunch of degrees and one of
them, a couple of them arecognitive psychology and Human factors engineering, which
is kind of a rare degree.And my doctor work with economics of engineering,
but the human factors. Engineering basicallyis psychology, engineering, biomechanics,

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and design industrial design. So Iworked for years teaching engineers actually how to
design tools, equipment and objects thathumans, you know, other people that
aren't engineers can use without hurting themselvesor blowing up the world whatever. And
so I taught, you know,for many years, and then I was

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kind of drafted into a directorship ofa big cooperation where I revamped fifty buildings,
hundreds of workstations for people to operateand work more efficiently, but also
not to hurt themselves. And also, you know, company's more profit,
so everybody was happy. I hadwhether of those jobs where I bade everybody

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happy. Yeah, yeah, SoI was blessed. Look, I'm a
very blessed person. And so Ihad a serious I bought. I lived
up, I moved upstate, NewYork, and my wife and I grow
grow food because we were into nutritionand beautiful flowers and all that stuff.
So I had a terrible, terribleaccent about twelve years ago where a machine

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broke and you know, basically rippedoff my dominant hands, and uh,
you know, it was devastating,really you know, I'm a very hand
on guy, and so I wasdevastated, upset and all kinds and I
was, you know, morose,and so I went to my garden.

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I looked at my potato bed andsaid to myself, well, I'm going
to figure away how to lift uppotatoes two with a two handed tool using
one hand. That's kind of howit started. Like like, you know,
I used to work on air trafficcontrol systems and nuclear power, you
know, very complex things. Butbut I know what the most brilliant kind

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of thing is is simplicity. Whenyou can do simplicity. So just to
finish up, I study work.I mean, that's my profession. I
look at how people do things,and I believe that, uh, gardening
is one of the best exercises exercisesin the world, and it's the best

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for mental health as well as everyother kind of health. So I wanted
to I want to promote gardening.But then what what is the problem that
people face? You know, soyou know, it's heavy, it's hard,
it hurts, you know, allthe all the negatives. So I
when I was doing I thinking aroundhow to make this tool. I wanted

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to eliminate the heavy and the hardand the hurt aspects. And so it's
over twenty seven prototypes ten years.This was not easy. This is not
simple as it looks. So Ispent you know, thousands of you know,
experiments, and I finally figured outthe It's more complex that it looks.

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But the geometry and the engineering ofit is really very interesting. It's
very well done. So, yeah, it's the origin. You call that
a patented rolling fulcrum. Yeah,see, it's okay. I wanted to
figure a way of lifting directly vertical. Let's say, let's say if you

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were if you were a plant,and I wanted to tear you out of
the ground, bring you out ofthe ground, lift you out of the
ground. What is the most gentleway of doing it? Where all your
roots systems come up? Or ifyou're a weed, how I pull up
a weed, or how someone pullsup a weed completely tap root and all

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the you know, the peripheral roots. Because a lot of different weeds.
If you leave a part of itin the ground, you're going to have
a bigger weed in a few months. So I wanted to think about the
most Uh's a complete way and gentle. So I Basically, this tool is
absolutely the opposite of a shovel andfork in its operation. A shovel and

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fork are great tools for a thousandyears, everyone uses a shovel and fork.
However, the technique or the posturethat you use in shoveling is very
dangerous. You know where you're you'reyou know, when you're lifting out of
the ground below the surface, You'reyou're bending your spine, You're you're you're

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twisting your spine, you're bending overand then you jerking something out of the
ground of an unknown weight. Itmight be stuck on a rock, it
might be a root. So you'redoing this uh method where you might have
a traumatic problem you know, popa disc or you'll definitely have war in
tear problems. People don't know wherein tear. It's like you know,

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the frog in the hot water.You know, you don't know the nose,
you don't notice the difference. Butworking in a wrong orientation with your
spinal this is biomechanics with your spineand the wrong orientation and then putting it
on the loads. Lifting where's yourcottage wears down lots of your you know,

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your body pots, it's your cortright. So people don't realize that
until there's you know, twenty thirtylike they say thirty or forty, and
then thirty nine percent of Americans thethirty nine percent of the medical costs in
America. It's problems. And soif I can help people avoid hurting themselves,

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we know that's that's a good thing. It's absolutely a good thing.
It's called the Earthlifter tool for easierdigging. Go to their website it's earthlifter
dot com to learn more about it. Let's take a quick break, we
come back. We'll find out whatare you gonna use the earthlifter for?
Where there's a lot of things youcan use this thing for. I think
you're gonna like it again. Checkit out. It's earthlifter dot com.

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Here on news radio six to tenWTVN. Welcome back here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson here on news radiosix' ten wtv in our special guest
this morning, Neil Bebbylock. Whilehe is the inventor of the Earthlifter.
This tool is absolutely unbelievable. Goto their website, it's earthlifter dot com.
You know, really reduce the strainon your back you diss the neck,

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the elbows, and shoulders. Ifyou're getting a little bit older like
me. Helps to make it easierfor you to work out there in the
garden or other physical disabilities. Helpsus all to really enjoy guarding. It's
a really unique it's a garden forktype tool. But you got to take
a look at it to learn moreabout it. It's called earthlifter dot com.
Now you're a big gardener, obviously, so how do you use your

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garden your earthlifter in your garden?Okay, So I have a I have
a hobby where I cultivate. I'vea propagades over thirty years, very very
fine gallics just for fun. Imean I have nineteen different cultivars. And

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I also I'm into final nutrients.You know, the colors that are in
plants. I'm seeing that in thefuture they're going to be you know,
look into them. You know,anthroscian in is purple. You know,
all these other chemical colors that arechemicals in vegetables are actually more nutritious,
have nutritious value, and basically youknow maybe you know, anti cancer,

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anti inflammatory, you know, soon so forth. So I have,
uh, you know, eighteen hundredhead the garlics with nineteen varieties, and
I have about sixteen colored potatoes.Uh well, well, if this is
all I experiment, I I lovetrying things. I love learning things.

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So we you know, I havea you know, five bits of asparagus.
I have that forty five blueberry bushes. But you know, we we
grow a lot of stuff and giveit away. We give, we just
give, you know, we giveit. We give it as gifts and
gallic to me is like the greatestthing that God gave us. And I
give it away as by birth asbirthday presents and Christmas presents. So we

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we physically do some. You know. I'm I'm over seventy and so I
have a you know, a verybad back. I have a you know
this disease. Now I'm all areplaced hip. I'm all I've been I
have I've not had a gentle life, and so I want to continue gardening.
And this is a big thing.Think think big in terms of the

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industry of gardening. It's just like, you know, just the big picture.
If people are able to garden,they will buy more products. If
people are older and they are healthier, they can extend their gardening life.
So this is like I want peopleto not be hurt and have you know,

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make life easy, but also extendtheir period and their you know,
their their usage buy you know,the buying power and the future. So
how you do that? So youhave to take away the things that will
harm them or or or prevent themfrom you. You know, if you

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have a bid canselaball on one side. My tool is a one handed tool,
so you could just use your otherside and continue gardening. But my
first sale was to a guy whohad a stroke and his one side was
gone, and he's, you know, a nut about gardening and he had
to so he uses this tool withone side and a key. So,

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you know, so I to enablethe industry or you know, or the
you know, the individual. Youknow, I'm not sure how old you
are you are, but you willbe able to garden longer and make it
fun. I believe in the psychologyof work. If you make work,

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exercise, fun or easy, you'llyou're gonna do it more. You'll you
will do more. You know,gardening and right you know, bimand immune
system, all the all the goodstuff that goes along with gardening. I
want to promote I want to help. So that's basically what. Yeah,
I think that's outstanding, and ofcourse that's how you came up with this

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great tool. Again, it's calledthe Earthlifter earth Earth Tool and then the
website is earthlifter dot com to besure and check check out more about it.
And I think that you know,whether you're an individual gardener, you
have a hobby farm, you're inthe market gardening. You know, if
you're harvesting a lot of root crops, tubers, things like that, this

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is right up your rally. Theother thing, I'm a big raised bed
gardener. I love the raised bedand I know more and more folks are
doing it all the time. Andof course we try to get away from
a tilling and the no till,but this particular tool makes it looks like
it just makes it so much easierto go and break that soil every spring,
to loosen that up to get itready for planting. What an easy

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way to do it, and againyou could do it basically one handed in
raised beds. I just see somany opportunities to use this. It's phenomenal.
I think it's unbelievable. And obviouslyyou got a lot of attention at
cultivate because I've read about this thingprobably in four or five magazines now and
the articles out there, and it'sgreat. And again it's called the Earthlifter

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Tool. Go to their website earthlifterdot com. Now where will folks be
able to find this? All right? So, Ron, this is what
I'd like to do. And thisisn't like you know, anything to take.
I like your I love Columbus.I was there and I think it's
a great city, and you're you'relisteners. I want to give them a

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I would like to give them apresent through you. So if they go
to my website and they put inr W for you r W twenty four,
I'll give them a twenty five dollardiscount on my website. But it's
it's being sold in many places.I don't want to bias any one or
the other. But so you canlook on my website, I'll have listing

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of places you can buy it.But if you're you know, go to
my you know, the earthlist websiteand they put in the discount code r
W twenty four. There you go, knock off twenty five bucks. There
you go. Yeah, I mean, because Columbus I've Columbus is a great
city. I really we enjoyed it, and you're doing a service to many

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people. I you know, morepeople garden, I think the world would
be better place. Oh there's nodoubt about that. I agree with you
one hundred percent. And obviously atthe like I say, at Cultivate,
you got a lot of attention.There a lot of folks very much interested
in this tool. I think itcan help a lot of people, make
it gardening a lot easier. Andif it's a lot easier, the more

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we're going to garden, and thehappier we're all going to be. I
can't thank you enough Neil for beingwith us this morning. Again. The
website is earthlifter dot com. Checkit out, and of course if you
want to order one r W twentyfour, you'll give you twenty five bucks
off, So there you go.We really appreciate the special offer. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, listen, weall have a mission to help our

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fellow man. So this is thisis my little try and you you know,
you're doing your thing, and Iappreciate what you're doing. All right,
Thank you, hey, thank youvery much. Hey, go out
and have a great summer. Wereally appreciate your time and again thanks for
the great tool. Okay, thankyou sir, all right, take care
again. It's called Earthlifter Tool andthe website is earthlifter dot com. And

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he did get a lot of attentionat Cultivate a lot of folks looking at
it. It's pretty simple. Whenyou see it, you're gonna look at
it and say, man, I, you know, I why didn't I
I did? I said, whatdid I think of something like that?
But look at the videos, watchvideos on there and what the folks are
doing just one handedly. Uh,so you know it's going to make it
a lot easier on your back andmy back and everybody's back. And if

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you do have a market garden,you know you do, you sell it
to produce stands or whatever you're doingthat much, this might be something you
want want to take a look atfor the folks that help you at your
garden, at your you know,your hobby farm or whatever it may be,
to make it easier on them forharvesting any of those root crops as
well. So take a look atit again. It's called the Earthlifter Tool

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earthlifter dot com. I thought itwas pretty cool and wanted to share that
information with you, and that waskind of nice on them to throw a
little little help. We're out thereore W twenty four and twenty five bucks
office not cheap, I'll tell youthat right now. It's not cheap,
but I think take it to bewell worth it, well manufactured. All
right, quick break, we comeback. Phone lines are open again for
you eight two to one WTV INeight hundred and six to ten WTV in

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here on news radio six y tenWTVN. You know, it's always good
to have friends in gardening places.I got to write a song about that.
Do you think I got friends ingardening places? I had the two
or three text messages during the breaksaying about shastsa daisies. There's not flowering

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quite as well either, And acouple opinions were the hotter temperatures, the
ups and downs and the temperatures,which we did mention, and being too
thick. They said, sometimes theyget too thick, they have to thin
them out. They don't flower quiteas well either. It becomes the competition.
But I think because I've seen somepatches are all thick, I have
a feeling that that's all environmental andI think the hot temperatures, you get

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the ups and downs and all thatcan really throw some plants off sometimes and
maybe that is what set us upfor if you're not seeing that many.
I just happened to notice that thispast week because that's one of my favorite
perennials is Shasta Daisy Becky. Oneof my favorites. By the way,
we always have our plant picks ofthe week right and you can find you
can learn more about those on ourspecial website at Ron Wilson online dot com.

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Well, my two plant picks ofthe week this week. One is
one that I pick every year rightabout this time of the year, actually
a couple weeks later typically, whichkind of brings up a point here.
And secondly, you know, Ifind things that are in flour so I
have two of them for you.One is Rudbeckia, which is a black

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eyed season commonly knows black eyed seasonsthe American gold Rush. It was a
twenty twenty All American Selection perennial winner, and I love this thing. For
the first time I saw it.It stays more rounded, it's more compacts
at the foliage is a little bitsmaller than your usual Rubeccia's. But the

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flowering is phenomenal. This thing justgets covered with the yellow flowers with the
brown or black centers and they bloomfrom right now through September with no problem
whatsoever. A little bit shorter,more compact, rounded mushroom kind of a
shape to it. And I'll tellingyou the flowers are all over them.
I mean they're just all over them. Pollinators love it, finches love it.

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If you let them go to asea set up the seaheads at the
end of the season. I loveit. And since twenty twenty, we
are just selling this thing more andmore all the time, but right now
putting on a tremendous show, andit will continue for you as well.
But it's Rubekia black eyed Susan RebecciaAmerican gold Rush truly in my top ten

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lists as far as perennials that Iwould recommend to anybody for an easy one
to grow. Secondly, because it'sa lot of fun. And I always
bring this up typically a couple weekslater but already starting to see flower,
which I can't believe it. AndI write the date down on this when
I when, and I think thefirst time I ever brought this up.
You know where I'm going with this, because I have fun with it all

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the time, is naked ladies likechorus, right, and I last year
I looked and where and I've hadthis for the pick of the year for
many many years, like I said, because of the name, and it's
fun and all that kind of stuffand brings attention to it. But last
year was on August the twelfth thatI that I mentioned that I was starting
to see the naked ladies and flowerthey're already starting to blue now and we're

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at the end of July. Iswear this thing is backed up. You
know. I think I used totalk about it towards the third or fourth
week of August, and they justkeep getting a little bit sooner and a
little bit sooner all the time.I'm assuming thanks to the warmer temperatures.
But yep, it's that time ofthe year. Keep your eyes open for
naked ladies out there in the gardenlike Corus. You all know, naked

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ladies, Surprise Lily, Resurrection,Lily, magic lily. Got the foliage
in the springtime looks like just strappingfoliage like an amarillis. And they're in
the same family that all dies back, and then all of a sudden,
and typically in August, all ofa sudden, these long shoots come up
out of the area where that foliagewas and you've got these beautiful trumpet like

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pink flowers on top. Doesn't lastvery long the warmer it is the shorter
period of time that they last,but absolutely gorgeous. Usually find them in
clumps. It's an old he beenaround a long time. If you plant
these, it takes a while forthem to get established and start the flower.
But once you do, then theyjust come back year after year after

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year. But it's like chorus.And again the common name is naked ladies.
And see that gives you the opportunityto have somebody in a car with
you driving down the street and yousee one in flower, clump up in
flower, you can point say,hey, look at the naked ladies.
Then everybody you know looking around tryingto find naked ladies, and you know
what it is, and then youtell them when they just shake their head
and go only you. But it'salways a lot of fun. And when

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do you plant, you'll find thosebulbs available. Sometimes in the spring you'll
also find them most of the time, and they found them being sold with
your tulips and daffodils in the fall. As soon as those flowers are done,
if you have somebody that has apatch of them, you can go
in and dig those up and transplantthem at that time. But again they
take a little while to get you. It'll come up a couple of years

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before they start the flower to getestablished. But once they do, boy,
it comes back year after year afteryear after year. So again naked
ladies starting to show up here andthere. So that's our other plant pick
of the week. And by theway, doctor Allen Armidy's who's always on
our show, you know, oncea month or so, he has that
book out we talk about of NakedLadies and Forget Me Nuts. It's a
great book about the names of plants, how they got their names. If

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you want to know where it gotits name, get the book. It's
probably one of the it's for agift for somebody, an easy read.
It's a lot of it's a funbook because you learn about the different names
and where they came from. Andif you're in this business where you're selling
plants at the garden centers or thelandscape or whatever, and you could tell
the story about the plant makes iteven more interesting. So keep that in

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mind again. It's his book calledNaked Ladies and Forget Me Nuts, Doctor
Allan Armadage. It's a pretty coollittle book. All right, before we
go to the break, David,good morning, Now, are you good
in yourself? Good? Good?Hey. I've got a maple tree.
It's fairly mature. It's about fortythree years old. It's got an oval

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recessed area approximately foot off the ground. Okay, I intended to fill that
with concrete just to protect the tree. Last year I saw some I don't
know why I put this off.I saw some sawdust at the base of
that tree, underneath that, anda few days ago I finally got out
there and got on the ground lookedat it, and I was surprised to

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see a hole. It's a smallhole, but inside the trunk was a
huge void. I mean it lookedlike a cathedral in there. I couldn't
believe because the tree looks healthy.I blew it out us. The got
down, looked at a flashlight withflashlight inside there, and it's got a
white coating up on the top.I can't even see the top of this
opening or the bottom, but upnear the top it's got a white coating

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on it. I sprayed some ratein there later, and then I saw
a few bugs come out that Ididn't recognize. I'm pretty sure they're termites.
There's a bunch of ants on thetree on the mulch. I was
going to close this up with fastsetting cement, but when I saw that
big void in there, I wasgoing to try to get some concrete in
there inside the tree trunk. ButI don't want to kill the tree,

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so I'm not sure what to do. Yeah, you know, the best
thing to do is and they don'tdo that anymore or very rarely, as
far as filling those cavities with concreteto make it sturdy. It's amazing how
much those trees can exist, youknow, with it the outer wood being
okay and the inner wood being gonelike that, And that's where you're certified.

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Arborus come in handy because they cancome and take a look at that
first of all, tell you exactlywhat's causing the issues. And I got
a feeling they're going to come backand tell you it's carpenter ants because they
love that type of a condition.The wood is wet inside, it's protected
and they love nesting in that andyou'll see the sawdust come out at the
bottom. They don't cause any harmto the tree. Actually, they just

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keep it going as far as nestinginside there. So that's probably why you're
seeing the ants crawling all over theplace. So you know, the thing
is they clean it out, youknow, kind of keep it cleaning out
as best you can. But theycan evaluate and say, okay, here's
the structure of the tree. Thisis what we think. We think you're
okay. Obviously a high wind thatpossibly the snap, but let somebody take

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a look at it and make anevaluation, find out for sure that it's
not termites. But I doubt thatit is, and let me know when
you have somebody come out. Butthe thing with the concrete, they still
experiment with that. I know somefolks still do it at some of their
homes. As a matter of fact, one of the things they got into
doing was the insulation foam and actuallysprang that in those cavities just to fill

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it up. The problem is itdoesn't seal around the tree, so there's
always that moisture between the product thatyou put in there, and the inside
of that tree, it's always there. The trees moving, they never really
connect together, and that's the problemyou get into. I'll never forget.
We took a tree down one timewith my son in law is my daughters

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that had been there for well onehundred years. This thing was huge and
as we got in with a chainsawwas taking it down, all of a
sudden we got in the middle ofthis thing and hit the chainshaw back out.
They had actually put rebars down insidethis I don't know how they did
it, and concrete it inside thisthing, and we couldn't figure out where
they got it in from somewhere upto the top of the tree. But

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anyway, not done that much anymore, but I think they the best thing.
David certified, Arburst, Alaman arbor somebody come out take a look
at it for you, make anevaluation of the structural the integrity of the
tree, what is it exactly wheredo you stand, and then make a
decision what you need to do.Okay, thank you very much. All

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right, David, good talking toyou. Quick break, we come back,
Jeff and Jen You're coming up nexthere on News Radio six to ten
WTVN Tucking yardening here on news radiosix' ten WTVN. A two to
one w TVN is our number.I did have somebody ask me this week
about dead heading hydrangeys. I'll tellyou what the paniculatas hydrangees have and then

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the oakleaves have put on a showthis year so far. You have to
admit absolutely outstanding. And remember youreally don't remove those flowers until you get
tired of them. They're not rebloomers. Once it's out there, that's what
you get. The rebloomers are themacrofileist selections, the serrata selections that bloom
on old and new wood, andthen you would deadhead those just to create
a little bit more new growth formore flowering. But otherwise those peniculatas,

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you leave that on. Once it'sgone, it's gone, and a lot
of folks leave on because some ofthose will actually color up nicer as we
get into the late summer and fallseason. So really, no no deadheading
required at this stage in the game. Just continue to enjoy them, and
they have put on one heck ofa great show, and no doubt about
it. Jen, thanks for holdingon. You're in the Garden with Ron

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Wilson. Ken Jen Jen Yes,ma'am. Okay, good Kenny, Okay.
I've done a pond and it's gotduck weed in it. Yeah,
good luck. That's a that's atough one. And you know there are
pond uh herbicides that you can useto get rid of it. But you

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know, you get that on andyou know why they call it duck wee
because they get on themselves and carryit into your u into your pond.
But you have to get you have, Yeah, you have to get involved
with a combination of some of theshadings and then of course the the aqua
and you need to go to likea farm store or something like that who
has the aquatic herbicides that can beused. And it takes a while to

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get rid of that stuff. It'snasty, but it can be done.
But it's a process of that andthe shading and that type of thing and
eventually get it under control and thenthe next thing, you know, it's
back again. But once you getit, yeah, once you get it,
it's it's a tough one. Butcheck with it. Yeah, you
bought a fountain, you know,just to help Yeah, to air rate

(29:32):
a little bit. Yeah, absolutely, But you you put a fountain in
an area, or fountain a bigone, yep, and it works,
but it so it quits. Thenext morning it's green again, it's all
back again. Yeah. So that'swhere you come in with a little bit
of the shading and if necessary,some of the aquatic herbicides if needed.
Uh, but again check with acheck with like a oh, I don't

(29:52):
know, tractor supply or somebody likethat. I think they have some of
those four farm ponds and that typeof thing, and then help to get
rid of it. But once youget that in there, it's it's a
tough one, Aaron, no doubt. But the er raider usually does a
pretty decent job and as long asit's running, you're right. Yeah,
yeah, all right, Eric,thank you appreciate that. Good talking with

(30:15):
both of you and Jeff. Goodmorning, good morning, run Ahoopaul as
well. How are you doing today? I am great in yourself, well
too bad. I have a coupleof quick questions for you, and you've
covered some of it in the lasthour. Okay, talking about burning bush
I good bye. My grandfather whowas born in the eighteens at the somewhere

(30:37):
around there. You know, somehitting rules were strict had to follow.
Him said, my wife and Ihave a bed about our burning bush.
You got a beautiful burning bush.Is it okay to cut it back now
instead of fall? H I youknow, if you had to, because
it's hanging over a sidewalk or something, I would do some minimal trimming.
The problem you get into, andwe were talking about this earlier, is

(31:00):
we don't want to promote any newgrowth. So we're on that cusp right
now. Whereas if you cut thatthing back, there's a good chance that
it might send out some new growth. Is it early enough that it will
harden off before we get into thelate fall and winter season. You're on
that cusp, so you know,if you had to do it, go

(31:21):
for it. If you don't haveto do it, I don't like cutting
them back until late winter early spring, because that plant's come into life.
It puts all the energy into comingback out and filling that back out again.
Now, some folks will cut themback really hard going into the late
fall and winter, and that's okay, and you can pull that off.
But I just like doing it inlate winter early spring because that's when all
the energies put into putting on newgrowth. So if you have to because

(31:45):
it's hanging over something, I wouldn'thesitate to cut it back. If you're
only taking out a few branches,I wouldn't hesitate to do that at all
at this time of the year.But you're on that cusp right now.
We're just not trying to encourage alot of new growth. Okay, that
I won the bet. Okay,oh oh, now I'm in trouble.

(32:05):
Yes, you're in trouble. Hecomes. But what about the other thing
you covered is but she's got morningglories. It's a beautiful bush. I
mean it is a horseshoe twet crellis. It is so green it looks like
the Amazon. There's not one balloomon it. Yep. Yeah. A

(32:29):
lot of the times that they don'tflower until late, too late in the
season. You get all this newgrowth, and then all of a sudden,
finally later in the season they finallystart to put out some flowers.
Two things I've always said about morningglories, grow them in the worst soil
you can find, because that's whatthey like. And don't feed them and
that and that seems that seems toencourage a little bit earlier blooming. If

(32:51):
it's in a really rich fertile soil, they grow like a weed and they
just don't do anything. If they'rejust planted and you you know where they
come up from seed every year,on a old fence or something like that.
You watch those will flower away earlierthan the ones that you planted in
your garden because you're just left alone. They're not fed. It's it's you

(33:12):
know, they just on their own. They're stressed a little bit. And
I swear to you you'll get thoseof flower a lot earlier. But that's
some of the unfortunate things about someof the old fashioned morning glories. It
just takes forever form to finally startto get some color. Well, I
learned something there, that's for sure, and we will follow that rule.
If you don't mind, Can youtell me how to stop my some plants

(33:34):
that started here in Columbus and nowwe're up in Marysville trumpet vines? Anything
about them? How to get ridof well twofold with trumpet vine? You
know it's it is a very nicevine. It's very aggressive. The hummingbirds
love it, and other pollinators aswell. Great flower and very attractive.
But the thing about about trumpet vineis that it does recede. First of

(33:59):
all, you'll see those seed headson there. When those seeds drop down
and they can, you know,critters pick them up, carry them around.
That's where you see them showing upjust here and there and everywhere.
So they recede as well as comingback up from the root system. So
you plant one in your landscape andyou've got to grow in it. It
looks nice and whatever, but thenall of a sudden you see it start

(34:21):
to pop up, you know,five feet away from the parent plant and
ten feet down from the other one, and it's it's either a combination of
the two, either from seeds droppingor coming up from the from the root
system. I'll never forget. Ivisited lady that was down from the Oakland
Park Avenue Oakland Nursery, and shewanted me to stop by one time and
see her trumpet vine. And whatthey had done is they had planted a

(34:43):
trumpet vine on each corner of apergola, and this thing totally covered it,
and they were the pergola was fallingapart. They pulled the wood out
of the pergola, and it allstayed together. It actually held it together.
But the point was what was interestingis if you looked around her yard,
there were tiny trumpet vines coming upall the time in all of her

(35:07):
landscape. She was constantly fighting them. So you know, again it's a
combination of from seed and coming upfrom the root system as well. All
right, so I need to beaggressive to seed. Yeah, So if
you see the seed head start tofall, you know, form, just
cut them off before the seat heeadsform and drop. And that helps you
out for that, and it helpsyou out for like roses sharing, that'll

(35:28):
do the same thing. Okay,all right, good information. I thank
you so much for your time,my pleasure. Hey you have a great
safe week. Hey you too.I appreciate the call. I appreciate you
listening to our show. Not enoughtime to take any more calls because we
always run out of time when I'mtrying to explain something to somebody. So
if you've got a question, feelfree to email me and I'll try to
get back to you as quickly asI can. Now, thanks to all

(35:51):
of our callers today, thanks toour listeners, thanks to our special guests.
Check that out again. It's agreat, great tool. It might
be something to help you out inyour garden as well. And of course
thanks to our producer Ella, becausewithout Ella, none of this stuff would
happen. So Ella, thank youso much for all that you do.
I'm serious when I say that.Now, be a tomorrow hero. Go
plant and grow a tree or twoor three. Keep planting those native plants.

(36:14):
Be pollinator friendly, take care ofyour bees, pamper your worms,
get those kids and dogs involved.Gardening by all means making the best weekend
of your life. See you
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