The flora of OSU

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six ' ten
WTVN eight two to one WTVN eight hundred and six
to ten WTVN talking about yardening. We are in August,
four weeks to Buckeye football. I mean, this is crazy,
it's happening. It's just happening so fast. My head is spinning.

(00:21):
Speaking of heads spinning, it's time for the Buggy Joe
Boggs Report. The Buggy Joe Boggs Report from the Ohio
State University Extension, Hamilton County Associated Faculty OLSU Department of Entomology,
co leader of the OSU Extension Buckeye Environmental Horticulture Team.
Website byg l dot OSU dot EEDU, Ladies and gentlemen,
mister common Sensicle himself, the Buggy Joe Boggs. Good morning, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You know, good morning. I'll tell you that that resonates,
you know that just very shortly. You know, we're gonna
see the Buckeyes and we're not talking trees. We're talking
the Buckeyes right.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, might feature the trees too.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, okay, that's yes, that's true. I'm getting carried away
as usual. But it was. It was great. I was
on campus yesterday. Uh, I'm doing well. I'm just being
very hesitant because I don't want to panic anyone. It
was training for new educators in extension.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Who's doing the training?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, I was involved with it. I was involved along
with Thank good. Yes, I know, I know. That's I
can tell. There's subtle panic that's sitting in now with
some of my extension colleagues thinking, oh my gosh, who.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Taught you that buggy Joe bags?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, thankfully, thankfully, my cohort in teaching was doctor Dave Schetler.
Oh well, then he's got you covered exactly exactly. That's
that's right. So they did get they did get some
good information, you know, thankfully. But we had a lot
of fun. It was nice walking around on campus and

(02:04):
and you know, it's just the football is in the air,
isn't it. I mean not literally we're throwing footballs, but
you know, it just was It's just the whole tenor
of things there is starting to change as we ramp up.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
So yeah, it's funny. You're talking about walking around the campus.
You know, a fellow alumni from Ohio State and you know,
took the landscape port classes there. You know, whenever we
used to talk about a plant, particular plant you see
have you ever seen one? Yeah, it was on the
corner of you know, Hollett and whatever. You know, or
you always remember where the plants were on campus, Yes,

(02:39):
from all the plant walks.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well. And it was interesting because I you know, we
have a fantastic obviously Arbureyedum, Seacrest Arburey it them up
in Worcester at the Research Center in Worcester. It's just
you know, outstanding. They have a lot, a lot of space.
I mean, in fairness, you know that's a many men
any more acres you know to work with. However, if

(03:04):
you're on main campus actually what we used to call
the West Campus more more or less the ag campus,
which is on the other side of the old TANGI
from Main campus, if you're there, and of course that's
where you know, a lot of great things happen, like
the shot and Steen is there right, I mean, there's
a lot of really good But if you're on that

(03:25):
side of campus, the Chadwick Arboretum is really a mussy
in my opinions, in a small area a lot going
is going on. But also, and I think sometimes we
all do this, folks do this. We we focus on
that arboretum without you know, walking a short distance away

(03:50):
to where we have more horticulture and where we have
research plots. And what's fascinating ron is that just right
out there front and center. If you look over, I
mean if you're on if you're on uh Fife Road,
you know, and you drive along course right now, they're
doing a lot of work. I think it's on a

(04:10):
steamline or something. So so there's a lot of construction happening.
But as you get over to what's called Hallett Hall,
which is you know, like the main anchor point for
the horticulture and Crop Science department, I mean, the plantings
around that area are just incredible and and I've watched

(04:32):
it happen. You've watched it happen. I mean when we
were on campus, there was I hate to say this,
but there's just very few plantings around those buildings were anything. Yeah,
there was.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
As a matter of fact, I remember when the O
in LA back then was the O and A got
involved with uh drawing a plan for around how Ittt
and starting some of that planting that they were doing there.
That was a long time dated.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
We have dated each other because I remember seeing those
plans and it's like, oh my goodness, you know this
is uh yeah, yeah, Dan, doctor Dan Struvey involved. Unfortunately
we lost Dan a few years ago, but but yeah,
it's come to fruition and it's a great way to well.
As a matter of fact, our walk we our home

(05:20):
base was in the Animal Science Building, which is you know,
just right next to Hallett Hall, and so we were
in there, you know, just discussing. The topic was diagnostic,
so we're discussing a few things. Then we went out
on campus and what was very interesting to me was
we were going to head to Shed to Chadwick Harboretam,

(05:44):
but that was our destination. But quite honestly, Ron, we
didn't make it. You know, I ended up later on,
I mean after it was all over, I was there
w Chadwick walking around, but we didn't make it because
there was there was such diversity just right at hand.
And as I said, the annuals and perennials plots mostly

(06:07):
annuals there that's just right out front and center of
that building. It's great to see these are research plots
that are replicated, meaning that you know that you have
at least four representatives for each you know, replication and
and and so the point being is these are evaluations,
and and we were able to see a lot of

(06:29):
different things. That's a great way to learn, Okay, in
this particular case, what works well in central Ohio, which
which applies to most of the state, right, I mean
if it does well there, So it's a it's great
to get ideas. I always say this that you know,
for example, we do this all the time. The cininnats
Cincinnati Botanical Garden.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
And the zoo.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is a great place down here where you can go
and and uh and and things are labeled. The plants
are labeled, and the animals are labeled. You know, they
all have signs on them and recipes and all that.
I'm sorry I did that. It's southern Ohio. I mean,
what do you say, any right, we're gonna get We're

(07:16):
gonna get phone calls. Ron made me say it. Everyone.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I didn't nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
So as we walk around, you look at different plants,
and particularly this time of year, because by by now
you can really determine is something going to be looking
great throughout the season, or do you want to focus
early in the season. That's important. I'm not saying don't
use something you know that looks kind of hard this

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time of year, because that just happened. Certain plants, you know,
do very well. They they're really showy in the spring,
and of course as the season progresses they become less.
So a lot of our native plants, prairie plants and
so forth. Obviously they do that. It's just part of
their life cycle. But if you want to just see
what different plants do, that's a great place. And once
again up on campus, these locations are extremely helpful in

(08:12):
my opinion, you know, in guiding people and making selections.
And of course we can contemplate that I would say
during the break.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
That's not Yeah, I'm sure that we can. You know.
What it's interesting is that I was just trying to
think of, oh, our plant walks. Back then, there wasn't
anything around Hollow. I mean, there was a few there
was a couple box elder maples and a few other
things like that, but otherwise plant id was all on
main campus and we had Terry Manel I think was

(08:41):
our our plant walk guy advisor and we always wound
up for some reason that the end of the walk
always happened to be right next to Papa Joe's.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't know how that works out.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Every time we would go out, we would wind up
right up there's Papa Joe's. We might as well swing
in real quick, so I I you know, yeah, it's
kind of kind of crazy the way that worked out.
All right, now, quick break, We come back more with
Buggy Joe Boggs here on News Radio six ten w
TV in talking to your ring hero on News Radio

(09:19):
six to ten w TV and part two of the
Buggy Joe Boggsy Part Joe bogs or Issue Extension. You know,
every time I smell mister Clean or Ajax Cleanser, I
always think of walking by Papa Joe's on Sunday morning.
Front door open. Well, they'd open the front door in
the back door and just hose it out.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh okay, you know that is interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
That really great place though.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, when when you said that, it really brought back
memories of just you know, our different walks on campus
over the years. I mean during times, you know, when
we had classes there, but then also just since we're
with extension and doing what you know we did yesterday,
which again is something that not every campus of every

(10:09):
university or college or whatever offers such diversity of plant materials.
And that's and that's no criticism. It's a matter of space,
it's a matter of resources and so on. But it's
been one of those things that I just have to say,
Ron has kind of snuck up on me, sneaked up
on life. Forget which past tense we use there, but

(10:31):
nonetheless how it's gone from let's face it, you'd walk
across campus and some big trees and some shrubs. But
since our time there, it's really, you know, the diversity
has really increased tremendously. And then I also made a
trip out to Waterman Farm. And Waterman Farm, you know,

(10:53):
is kind of the egg based research location for OSU
in Columbus. You know, when when you and I were involved,
well that was mostly used for animal science and some
fruit research, but the vast majority of you know, the
ag research happened up in Worcester, and so it wasn't

(11:15):
viewed quite the same way as is today. And today,
oh my goodness, the diversity that you see there, you know,
evaluations of vegetable crops and all kinds of things, and
of course a huge you can't miss the giant greenhouse
operation there and I'm just it's controlled environment research, but

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you know, it looks like it's a giant greenhouse. And
that's also something that's happened, which is you know, we're
very proud of, to be honest, because that allows them
for us to learn more of things, which of course extension,
you know, extends research, and that's what we're all about.
And being able to see that happening is pretty remarkable.

(12:00):
But one thing that's happening, and we just have to
revisit this because I am getting slammed with magnolia scale questions.
This has been an unusual season. Yes too, Yeah, and
we've talked about it before. I mean, this is not new,
but this year it's been it's been unusual, and not

(12:21):
just in the Greater Columbus area. We're talking also, you know,
the Cleveland area. I'm getting emails from of course down here,
you know, in southwest Ohio. And what's happening is that
number one. You know, we always talk about the difference
between native and non native insects, and this is a
native insects. So we have to start out by saying, okay,

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any native insect has this has a full complement of
enemies that co evolved and making a living on them.
And for example, with magnolia scale, we have a we
have a not just one type of lady beetle, but
we have lady b that are They're in the genus
hyperaspis as H y P E r A s p

(13:07):
I S hyperass hyperass abscess. And some people call them
signet lady beetles, some call them sigle late lady beetles
s I g I L. And these are specialists on scales,
and very specifically, they really focus hard on soft scales
like magnolia scale. Now what that means is that if

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you want to rear these, if you would like to,
let's say, sell them, you would have to feed them scales,
which is hard to do. You know. It's well, you
can't have this, you know, anywhere, at any place. So
I still have not found a supplier of these lady beetles.
So I'm getting a lot of questions, Uh, we don't

(13:52):
want to spray, which okay, that's a you know, that's
something to be considered a particularly because if you made
a topic application there's that means spray the whole tree,
spray the surface.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
There is a very high risk in fact, with certain products,
you know, just to guarantee that you would kill these
lady beetles. But you may not think you're killing them
because these lady beetles, the adults are pretty easy to see.
They're mostly they're black or shiny black with two red
spots or more than two red spots. Again, they're not

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very big at most maybe about a quarter inch long.
But it's a larvae that really do the job. The
larvae look almost exactly like mealy bugs, except mealy bugs
don't crawl they you know, they're stuck to the plant.
These actively crawl about. So they cover themselves in this

(14:50):
white waxy material, kind of fluffy material. And you and
i've talked about this before. It's not the first time.
But a few years ago I had a raging magnolia
scale infestational saucer magnolia. And we'll get the significance of
the name of the magnolia, the type of magnolia, just
submit it. But a raging infestation infestation of magnolia scale,

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and it was cleaned up in one season. In fact,
the big old post was titled Magnolia Massacre because these
lady beetles came in. I didn't introduce them, They just
found them and can just decimated the magnolia scale and
then went up the street on my neighbors to magnolia
star magnolias and decimated the scale on those true trees.

(15:38):
And that's been a number of years ago, and the
scales have never come back. So the take home is
that if you do nothing, since this is a native insect,
there's a high probability that over time, you know, the
enemies of this scale will find them and do the
job for you, because others a native you know, sometimes

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it's like the foxes and rabbits. You know, sometimes the rabbits,
you know, reproduce so much faster they get carried away
and we see a lot of rabbits and the foxes start,
you know, catching up. And that's what's happening right now.
I would suspect that in the next few years, our
phone calls will just drop, our emails will just drop.

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So so doing nothing is not a bad idea. Now,
if a person did, you know, if they have a
small magnolia, because that also plays into this and very
specifically if they have a small non native magnolia. Now
I'm not saying we shouldn't plant non native magnolias. If
we did that, if we if we follow that advice,

(16:44):
we'd miss out and a lot of beautiful play. But
the non natives are definitely much more susceptible. In fact,
that's why I said, you know that that the star magnolia,
the magnolia in my backyards saw are magnolia, and you
know they're non natives. So that's where we see these scales.

(17:05):
But over time they will subside if an application, though
needs to be made. Well, a systemic is a good idea,
and this is a type of insecticide that goes into
the plant. Now here's the challenge. At about the end
of August, these female scales of magnolia scales will start
producing eggs, but they produce eggs over an extended period

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of time, over more than a month. The target would
be the crawlers, the first instar nymphs that hatch from
those eggs. But here's the challenge. Certain materials may go
up into the plant, go up into the tree, and
then dissipate without killing all of the crawlers. Other products

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may have an extended period of time when they will work.
So there's a little bit of a challenge in getting
good control just because of that extended egg hatch. But
if you combine the two, if you say, all right,
I'm not going to spray the tree, I'm going to
let you know, as Joe and Ron said, you know,
we're gonna, you know, let the enemies take care of it.

(18:11):
But I might suppress it with a systemic which won't
kill the beneficials. That's not a bad idea. But like
I said, I really enjoyed. I don't have to stop
and think about how that sounding. I really enjoyed one.
I enjoyed watching you know, nature take its course on

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these and rest assured it will eventually happen.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Another cartoon for the Far Side of Buggy.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Joe Boggs, He really it could be.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
The list is getting quite long. This is going to
be like a twenty five chapter book.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
By the way, yes it is. It is about the time,
you know, all of a sudden and done. And that's
just volume one.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
That's just volume one. There's no doubt. Hey, you know,
you know what I wanted to tell you. I got
a picture this past week of one of my face
favorite plant issues plant problems. The lady had was growing
a easy does It Rose, which is one of my favorites,
and she had been struggling and losing the peace here
and there, et cetera, et cetera, and we kind of

(19:13):
messed around cut it back and was feeding it, and
she sent me another picture this week's and I had
quite a few flowers, but she said I was. I
was remulching it, and she said, I pulled the mulch
back and I realized that there's this big hard clump
right at the base of my Easy does It Rose?
Do you have any idea what this is?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh? I think we know. I think you're going to
speak Latin to that, right, And.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I said, you don't ask me why, but this is
one of my favorite of all times because it's the
only thing I ever remember and can actually pronounce. Yeah.
But she had crown gall and I haven't seen that
on roses forever.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know, that is I agree with you. I mean
years ago, I mean when I came to extension and
oh gosh, I hate to say this, two years ago.
And of course you and I have been doing this
for a long time. You know, crown gall was a
concern on roses.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And uhuamous.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh yeah, oh man. And it was not hard to
find it, was it. I mean, you could just uh
but I suspect some things. Now I don't know this
is true or not. Well, first of all, we're talking
about a bacterium that has a wide host wrench is
actually a little scary when you read all of the
plants that can potentially infect.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
By the way, Joe, that's Agrobacterium to ephacian.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I was waiting for that. I love it when you speak, lad.
I do know that a lot of the selections, so
you know, propagators working with this plant, propagators, a lot
of selections I did focus on trying to get away
from susceptibility, and this was this happened with Forsythia and

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even some of the euonymous but roses too. But you
know it is I don't know what's happening because I'm
not sure if Because it was so successful, we started thinking, well,
it's not that big of a problem. But but you're right,
you know, I am starting to see it on some
of the some of the newer roses and some that

(21:18):
we we thought were pretty solid. And that's a bit
concerning because you know, it potentially can be very damaging.
And it does just like you described. Typically it doesn't
just outright kill something, but it chokes off, you know,
the vascular tissue, and and so you just kind of
see this. It's just sort of not thriving. And she

(21:41):
did the right thing. Sometimes most often you could see
it right at the soul surface. But and it looks
like this big gnarly kind of brain like you know, growth,
but below the surface. Yeah, what lie is beneath is
also important, and you really only have one option, and
that is to replace it.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah. I told her, enjoy the flowers the rest of
the year and we'll get it, get it out of there.
So but it was interesting. I haven't seen that in
a long long time. So here you go. And it
gave me a chance to pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
So there you go. There you go.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Hey, Joe, gotta go. Always a pleasure, great information. We'll
talk to you next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
You have a great week. We're on Take care.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Bye bye, all right, buggy, Joe Boggs OSU extension bygl
dot OSU dot EU quick break we come back. Phone
lines are open for you at eight two to one WTVN.
Here on news radio six to ten WTVN. Oh, is
it fun to think back to those old days walking
around campus plant walks and all that kind of stuff.

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Crazy stuff As a matter of fact, you know when
we did our plant walks, you had these id books
and then you would mark where the plant was on campus,
so you can always go back and look at it
and examine it and do all that kind of stuff.
So kind of crazy, but a lot of fun back then,
no doubt about it. And I hope I understand that
the numbers of people that are like in the landscape
Port program not like it used to be. But I
hope more than newer generations we'll get more and back

(23:03):
involved with that and get more back involved with the
landscape and landscape Port and all that too. But we
had a lot of fun, and I hope they still
do all. Right. To the gardening phone eyes, we shall
go at a two to one WTVN Bob, good morning, Hey, Ryan,
good morning morning.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Quick one question here, I have holly shrubs alternated with barbary,
so you get that kind of green red you know,
Christmas year round? Sure, the holly yep, the hollys need
to be moved. I have a couple of them that
are just too darn close to the barber and they

(23:43):
don't need to be moved much. Maybe eighteen to twenty
four inches little research spring or early fall, And I
was wondering if you had any idea on what you
would recommend. I can certainly wait till spring, but just
the way things are, I know now it's not a
good time with the draft, and but I'm thinking come
follow that would be would be okay.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, when they say early fall, when you're looking at
like broadly fevergreens like the holly rhododenders as aois, and
that the reason we say early fall is that try
to get where there are starting to shut down for
the season. So we're talking like late September early October,
so we're starting to go into that dormancy shut down.
But on the same token, as we dig and transplant
and replant, they've still got plenty of time to start

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to establish a little bit of a root system before
we get into the winter and you get them settled
back in, So you know, anytime, like I say, obviously
still going to be weather pending, but late September early
October through mid October would be an excellent time if
you want to do it in the fall. Otherwise you
wait until late winter early spring. And the problem with
the late winter early spring is that we try to

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watch the weather. If it's a wet spring or a
cold spring, and you can't get out and dig. Next
thing you know, we're into the season, it's already starting
to bloom and grow, and that's a horrible time to dig.
So that's where sometimes in the fall it's a little
more consistent as far as the weather, and it makes
a little bit easier. But again the term mid mid

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fall is just to give it up and replant it.
So you've got a little bit more time for that
to get itself starting to re establish into the soil
before we get into the winter season. So late September
early October, and I'll tell you what i'd do, Bob
as I'd make sure I water them really well, two
or three or four days in advance, not only for
having moisture in the soil, but having moisture in the

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plant itself, and then of course just tie them up
with us some string so it's easy for you to
dig and it gets them away from the other plants, dig,
move to whatever you need to do. Watermen, well, treat
them like you're planning a whole new plant. And I
think a real key here, and I'm sure you're aware
of this, but it's going to be watering, if dry
through the it could be right up to the holiday season.

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But making sure they've got good even moisture into the
fall season, right up to the holidays, and then of
course at that point you can pretty well start to
back off and see what happens over the winter. But
late September through mid October would be your best shot. Okay,
we got it all right, Bob good talking to you,
quick break. We come back, Tony. You're coming up next.
Phone lines are open for you at a two to

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discuss saying you already here on news radio six '
ten WTVN. Back to the guardening phone nights, we shall
go Tony, good morning.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Good morning, mister Wilson. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I am great yourself.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I am doing well. It's real quick, easy question. At
my church, the hostage on the front side of the church,
they've already bloomed, and I cut all after they've bloomed,
I cut all the stalks off. Now they're looking like

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they're getting ready to go away. So is it okay
if I go ahead and chop them down now?

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Or should I wait?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know, if the leaves are fifty are more still there,
I leave those on. If it's more than fifty percent
is dead, you can go and take those out. You know,
we're getting late enough in the season at this point,
I think you would be okay. Sometimes they'll send up
a couple couple of new leaves here and there, but
I try to limp them through at least another couple

(28:11):
three weeks if you can, without taking everything off. But
again I kind of judge it that way. It says,
if it's more than half a leaf, it's really not
doing the plant a whole lot of good. You know.
You get that off and that'll help to clean it
up a little bit and then uh, and then take
it from there. So if it were mine, I would
try to limp them just a little bit longer and
then take and then and then go out it at
that point.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Okay, well, thank you very much, sir.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
All right, good talking to you. Good luck with everything.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You have a wonderful day.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And all right, thank you very much. I and uh,
you know, it's one thing about hostas I am. I
love hostas I and there's so many great selections out there.
It's crazy. Uh, and so do deer, so just slugs
and other critters too. But I am not a big
hostile flower fan unless it's a pretty good sized flower
that the pollinators enjoy or has some frek it. Otherwise

(29:01):
I won't let them flower. And I have got to
let them put all the energy back into the to
the foliage and they and they'll look a little bit better.
But you know, go through and dead head those and
not let them go to seed is a great thing
to do. It's it's very labor intense, but boy, if
you can do that and keep them from putting that
energy into that seed, the better off you are. And
in some cases, in the areas where they get a

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little bit more sun may have been a little bit drier,
they're looking a little scorched right now, and again you
try to try to limp those through as long as
you can. If you're looking at day lilies that are
looking really nasty right now, shoot, I'd cut those things
off and they'll they'll come right back up again, and
you have a nice looking plan for the rest of
the late summer and fall season and then they'll die
back to the ground. But the hostage, I'd kind of

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limp through as long as long as you can. Nelson,
good morning.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Good morning, Ron. I had a nice stand of grass,
but then I had a new deck put in, and
then the process of removal and rebuilding. Uh, they created
a as that in some place has actually killed the grass.
Is there anything I can do now? This is during
the ninety two degree temperature days, so it was really

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dry and hot. Is there anything I could do as
far as replanting right now? Do I have to wait? Well,
I don't think it's gonna work now, But do I
have to wait till fall or spring?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Falls the best time. As a matter of fact, one
of my notes here today is to remind everybody is
that our optimum seeding time is coming up, believe it
or not, in two weeks. It starts around mid August
and runs through the end of September. So you know
what I'd be looking to do right now, Nelson, is
those areas where they've obviously been compacted, and then what

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they wound up doing compacting and killing the crowns that
we're there by driving back and forth. Now, what I'd
be doing is going in there with some kind of
an air raider. If I can to poke holes in
that and try to loosen that back up again and
relieve that compaction. If you can go back through and
put a little compost in those holes, would be great,
and kind of raking it and getting the bed prepped

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and ready to go, make sure no weeds start to
pop up in there. And then you know, in about
two weeks three weeks, have at it and get the
seeding down and get you know, put them. Don't use
straw if you can get by without using straw, because
then you put up with the wheat and weed seeds
that may be in there. Yeah, there are other types
of grass seed covers that you can use.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
And then and then it's just a matter of keeping
the moisture to it, even moisture and getting it right
back up again. But we're there and and over. The
you know, coming up in two weeks will be the
optimum six weeks for cool, cool season grasses. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Another question, is there a type of grass that like
a playground grass that stands up to traffic.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I personally like the turf type tall fescues, all right,
and they're tough, they're durable, they're deep rooted. They will
take a lot of traffic. In some cases, folks will
sew in with that a very very small percentage of
bluegrass just for a little bit of that rhizoming. Now,

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some of these new turf type tall rescues also have
that rhizoming capability, not even close to bluegrass, but have that.
So you'll see sometimes you'll see a blend of two
or three types of turf type tall rescues and then
they'll put them in that mix. They'll mix in just
about a ten percent or less blue that gives you
the rhizoming of the blue. But you know, the turf

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type tall rescue, to me, is still one of the
best ones you can get out there, and I would
do I would look to do the whole art lawn
that way eventually, if you don't have turf type tall
rescues now, I would look to be doing that, and
I think you'll find it. That's probably one of the
best grasses today, I think of all them that are
available out there.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Well, two years ago I replanted the yard, and I
mean it was just beautif but I use the very
cheap grass seed, So I don't know that was a
good thing.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, you know, and you're you're right, and you kind of,
you know, do the whole thing. You know, you get
what you pay for obviously. Yeah, and over time you
wind up coming back and putting it back. But take
a look at that and again coming up here in
another two or three weeks would be a great time
to just go through and slice seed through that existing
lawn and maybe start all over again with that turf
type tall fest. You gotta go, we'll take a quick break.

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