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Good morning, everybody. Welcome.I'm Ron Wilson. You're in the garden.
You're on news radio six to tenw TV and if you'd like to
join us, love to have you. Our numbers eight two to one WTVN
eight hundred and six to ten WTVand talking about yarding on this first Saturday
in the month of May. Canyou believe that we're in the May already?
And of course looking at those soiltemperatures this week. Man, we've

been running in the seventies. Now. You know that we have been waiting
for the seventy degree consistent soil temperaturesto finally say, okay, you kind
of got the go ahead on thetomatoes and peppers in net and technically you
do. I mean we look atit now. I mean, is there
a chance of frost from here onout? Eh, there's always chance of
frost here on out. Who knowswhat Mother Nature's gonna throw at us.

But we are looking at those warwarmer soil temperatures. We are looking at
a thumbs up as far as gettingout and starting to plant. But again,
I just want to remind you don'tbe too anxious. I mean,
just because we finally recess seventy degreemark doesn't mean, like you know,
you go out. They just havehad it. A lot of folk.
I saw a lot of folks atDarby Creek last week, which, by
the way, I want to thankthem for Jeff Turnbull and the entire staff

for having us out there last weekat their new garden center in Plain City.
Absolutely gorgeous, little windy. They'reout in a wide open boy,
and the wind just whips right throughthere. But it was fun. We
always have a good time, andJeff does such a great job and place
looks good. So if you haven'tseen it, you get out and check
it out. But a lot offolks buying tomatoes and peppers and things like
that. And again we're early,but it has reached that point, and

you know, I guess my pointbeing is there's no big rush. Okay,
you got time. Even if youthink your selection of tomatoes or vegetables
or peppers or whatever you're looking toplant may be gone in a couple of
weeks. Maybe you get out andgo ahead and buy them now and hang
on to them if you want to, but you're no real rush to get

those in the ground now. Containersan all different story and going to get
those planeted. But just take yourtime. And as I've always said every
year that you've ever listened to meon the show, is that I will
plant something up until the fourth ofJuly, depending on what it is.
If I find a tomato or pepper, something a little different, I'll you
know, another a garden center,I'll plant up until that point. So

you got lots of time. Youjust you know. I just tell folks
to just watch the weather and watchfor any frost and if you do,
do a little frost protection. Butotherwise we're starting to get to that point
to have at it, so haveat it. And again I want to
thank the folks at Derby Creek Nurseryand Landscape for having us out to the
new garden center. Unless we gotin Plain City, it was a great

time. And granting everybody out there. Of course we a thank you for
making everything happen as well. Sothanks to all the folks at Derby Creek.
You get out and check it out, you'll you'll like the new digs
and they're going to be doing alot of things over the next couple of
years, more concrete and more blacktopand making it better and better every year,
So got out and check it out. I think you will enjoy what
you see. All right, itis time for you know what time is

for? Right time for the BuggyJoe Boggs. Boy, that would be
mister Joe Boggs as a professor.I haven't started yet. You're laughing,
Okay, all right, I knowI can't help it, assist a professor
commercial even he laughs at his title. I do. Anyway. He's with
OSU Extension and Entobiology, and theirwebsite is a bygl dot OSU dot edu,

ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensecalled Buggy Joe Boggs. Good morning,
sir, Good morning. It's abig weekend, isn't it. Well,
you know, I know it's abig day for your neighbors today because
it is a world Naked Gardening day, and I know you always look forward
to that, and of course yourneighbors all go out of town for the
weekend. Well, all I cansay is it's good we're doing this by

radio. Uh me too. No, I'm not a pretty sight, folks,
I'm sure you know, but I'lltell you it's not nearly as bad
as the grim Mulcher Wow, deadair air. Wow, that was a
you know, but you know whatis funny. Uh, We've got the

posting of the horns of popping onoak galls because we got you fired up
about gulls last week. Uh,that's a great post and that's on our
website at run Wilson online dot comand of course yours at the at the
Beagle as well. But the otherone that you put up this week,
which I thought was it's a reallygood It truly is a good read through.

And I like where you're coming from, and you and I talked about
this in the past. Is whatyou're just saying, the shiniest spotlight on
multi volcanoes. That's where you weregoing with the mulchin. That's where I
was heading. You know. It'sinteresting. I don't know whether you know
the the amount of time that youand I and others have spent trying to
educate the public. And I daresay the professionals, you know, not

to pile mulch up on the mainstems. Dare say the professionals, Joe
dare say them because it is true. It is. I think though that
we're having a bit of an impactbecause it was I mean, this has
become kind of an annual posting onmy part because it's just such a horticultural

horror, right, I mean,there's these things that look like volcanoes erupting
around the main stems. But youknow, it was it's becoming every spring
a bit harder for me to findexamples to take pictures of. And I
was in a neighborhood in our neckof the woods a couple of weeks ago
where every tree, you know,in the part of the neighborhood that was

being you know, managed by acompany, and and every tree, and
we're talking about the so called devilstrip, you know between the sidewalk and
the street. Devil every tree,devil strip, yeah, or other things.
Every tree had volcano mauls to exceptthere was a tree. There were

trees on a corner and the homeownerhad had obviously come out and pulled the
mulch away. I suspect they couldbe a master gardener volunteer. I'm serious.
It was very interesting to see that. And I was actually leaving the
neighborhood and didn't have time to takethe picture. I'm going to go back

because that's really what we're talking about. Doing. I mean, if you're
an avid gardener and you see thisbeing done, you know, and if
you have any stay about it,you know, speak up, because it's
not just a it's not just abad looking thing. In my opinion,
I mean, I don't know whythat appeals to people. I've never had

understood that. But as I asI you know, show with graphics and
things in the in the big Oalert, what happens is it behad the
tree and everything is just like thetree being planned to too deep. And
so if you plant a tree toodeep or the trees too deep in the
soil, it has Trees have asurvival mechanism, and certain trees in particular,

for example, red maples because they'realso called swamp maples, and they
have the ability, you know,if they're too deep in the soil.
Let's say there's flooding that comes acrossand puts soil over the top of the
root system, they can there aredormant buds, you know, in the
bark that can produce what we calladventitious roots, and what you end up

getting is an elevated root system.Now what do they do that well?
Because roots need to have oxygen orget oxygen directly from the soil, because
you know, plants don't have acardiovascular system, so if they're being choked
off the roots do not get oxygenfrom the soil, then they'll you know,

do what they can by producing thiselevated root system that we call secondary
root system. Of course, theprimary root system can sometimes die and start
rotting, and over the long haul, that produces interior rot in a tree.
But if you pile mulch up onthe mean stem, even though mulch
may seem airy, and at firstit is, and we're talking about hardwood

bark mulch, which by the way, I love and I make sure that
people also consider going to the BlackEye yard and garden line because I have
a whole series of how the mulchcorrectly. But if you pile it up
on the mean stem, it caneventually start collapsing as a decays that it'll
start compacting and it'll start behaving justlike soil, and the tree responds by

producing roots or growing roots into thatmulch. And so picture in your mind.
If you don't want to picture inyour mind, and you go see
pictures that I've posted, you endup then with the pictures in your mind.
Well that too, But but whateventually happens is you get this conical

shaped root system that is that mirrorswhat I have in here, the phantom
mulch volcano, and if that mulchgoes away, you end up with this
exposed root system and ron there reallyis the thing that anyone can do about
it once it gets to that stage. And you can see this unfortunately in

places you know, where they've beenvolcano maults for years, or where the
tree has been volcano maults for years, and that tree root system is so
malformed. Quite frankly, it's goingto very much shorten the life span of
that tree. What would you I'mgoing to throw this at you because we
want to take a break, andyou know we have to take a break.

But what if I volcano maultched.I'm just sitting here thinking about this
volcano mulched, and you know wedon't ever put mulch up against the trunk
of the tree, right, that'swhat we suggest. Even under regular maulching
conditions one to three inches of Ialso keep it away from the trunk.
What if I volcano mulched, butnever put it against the trunk of the
tree, and it was always fouror five inches away from the trunk of

the tree. But I could seeand I could see all the way down
to the soil. But yet itwas volcano mulched around the outside of that
trunk. Then what would happen?I wonder. Ah, We're going to
a break to give you time tothink about that one, and it will
also get Buggy Joe Boggs at KentuckyDerby picks, which I don't think he's

ever picked a winter but nevertheless,it's always fun to get his picks.
Anyway, after the break here onnews radio six to ten WTV, in
just asked Alice, when she's tenfeet tall, welcome back. You're in
the garden with Ron Wilson. You'reon news radio six to ten w TV
and speaking to ten feet tall BuggyJoe Boggs is with us this morning talking
about overmulching. So I gave youa little scenario there. You may have

never ever thought about that one.Maybe you have. I don't know.
Well, I'm kind of wondering howyou could create ate that, you know
what I mean? You say,well, if you could, then I
don't think anything would happen. Imean, it would be a nice picture.
And you know, have this hugecaldera. You know what is that
I write that down caldera. Imay have to do that. I may

have to do that, just andtake a picture. You know, maybe
you know, put some lava inthe bottom of it. It would be
kind of nice. But you know, shifting gears a little bit. The
reason why I bring up you know, listeners maybe be thinking, wait a
second, you know, how doesthis connect to insects? You know there's
a buggy Joe Boggs report. Well, when we stress trees, it makes
them more susceptible to certain insects,particularly bores, as well as different pathogens.

So so that's the connector. RunIt's not the down I mean,
if volcano mulching killed trees out right, people wouldn't do it, right.
I mean, you put it upand the tree dies, and I'll stop
doing that. But over the longhaul, though, you can end up
with trees being so stressed that theyou know, the secondary problems start happening.

And so that's the connector. Butbut getting back to the big day,
you know, the one hundred andfiftieth running of the Derby now,
you know, at first I thoughtthat was that's it. We went from
the most of that, there wasno Well, I have to get in
a little game that I like toplay with the names of these horses,

you know, you know, Iyou know, we started doing this a
few years ago, and I Iwant to ago, I want to up
the game a little bit because Iwould like to challenge listeners, you know,
to use these names, all thesewonderful names of these horses, which
are so creative to produce. Let'ssay, a one sentence story that makes

sense. So are you ready?Are you well, I'm gonna I'm going
to just do one sentence of astore that I think includes and you can
count them, every name of thecourses, all right, now, I
get it. You ready, I'mready? Start to counter? Okay,
okay. Enter the to password tolearn about the endlessly epic ride from West

Saratoga to the stronghold of Sierra Leonwith our forever young domestic product, Mystic
Dan, catching freedom and riding withjust a touch of fierceness and resilience to
honor Marie and beat Magatu our trackPhantom grand Mo, the first and catalytic
society man from dorknot castle built ofjust steel one, two, three,

four, saying in nineteen twenty,I think we've got them all. I
think so somebody may be able tosay, wait a second, you forgot
this. I think you got themall. I literally I put down I
was putting a little die every time, and I think I got at twenty.

You know, the to password wasthe hardest one. But I caught
that off the back because that meanssomething in Japanese and I can't think of
what it was. Well, Ihad that when I was reading all the
names and going through the You know, I've tried to do this in the
past and it usually just falls apartalong the way. It just can't work

them all. In this year theyreally work together because I think, you
know, if I'm not mistaken,you know, you might have a door
knock castle sort of as a doorknock as being not castle door. Yeah,
door knock, door knock is maybebeing you know, a pick what

do you Fortunately door knock is ingate number one. It hadn't been too
many wins out of gate number one. Well, what's interesting is fierceness was
in seventeen. I think it movedover to sixteen I don't think anybody's ever
won out of seventeen. Oh that'sa shame. But he moved over to
sixteen. Well that's good because JohnVelasquez age fifty two, twenty five Derby

races is on fierceness. Well,the only the only one that you and
I ever picked together was was Medinawhatever. And of course he got eliminated
because of bumping another horse. Yeah, we had won for about ten minutes.
That's easily what happens. My pickshave always been those that you know,

all the horses, you know,all the horses across the finish line,
and my pics are always the onesthat are out there grazing in the
infield. Look to the infield.I was going to hang on to the
infield for a while. Well,I did take I did take fierceness to
win because I like John. Idid pick door Knock just because I like
the name door Knock and I liketo look at a horse too. I

picked Catalytic to show Catalytic. Ilike that name. Yes, Grandmo the
first yes, and you know,and Maggot two. Now you know,
it sounds so much like and Iworked this in kind of as a as
a nod to Zoolander because it soundsa little bit like Muggatou, you know,

the bad guy in Zoolander. Butbut you know, I have to
admit this, I don't pay alot of attention to what's being written.
I do go by these names.Can't help it. But but of course,
you know, when you have ajockey of the standing of John of
Alaska's, then you sort of haveto say, well, that guy is
pretty good, you know, andsometimes we forget it's also much about the

jockeys, right, yeah, yeah, all right, So what's your pick.
I'm going to go with fierceness.I have to do that, Yes
I do, now, I almost, I almost, and maybe I needed.
You know, Society Man is riddenby Frankie Detri, who's the oldest

jockey, fifty three. I can'tbelieve I'm saying that fifty three is being
older. Gee whiz. I mean, it's you know, he's a spring
chicken for us, right for you. But you know, there's there's a
bit of me that says, maybeSociety Man, but Fierceness, I just
have to say that this may bethe year. Right. The horse looks

good, I tell you, hedoes, so we'll see what happens to
do. Yeah, Johnny Hill,who does the traffic here on six'
ten. He is a he knowshis horses. He picked Honor Marie.
Oh no, that's interesting, dup there and I can't think of his
other one but Mystic Dan. Buthe picked Honor Marie for the for the
winner, so we'll see. It'salways fun. I don't really care who

wins. I mean, I don't, but it's fun trying to pick and
figure out who's going to do what. It is a lot of fun.
I'm just looking for Grim Multcher.If we could get Grim Mulcher in there
in the future, that could besomething right there, right, Buggy Joey's
Bucky Joe coming another Yeah, thatwould be a good one too. Oh
me, Joe, always a pleasure. Have fun today with your mint julips

and whatever else are you going todo? And of course your neighbors are
gone, so you can just havego hog wild in your backyard today.
Oh my gosh, let me tellyou that's a great weekend. Have fure
to talk to you next Saturday.You have a great week Take care,
bye bye, all right, BuggyJoe bugs OSU Extension b yg L dot
OSU dot e du no guests todayand I did that on purpose so we

can take your calls. I'm sureyou've get the tips you want to share
or questions. Have a lot formyself, so we'll kick off with that
as we come back from the breakhere on news Radio six to ten WTVN.
It is the first Saturday of May. We are booking right along.
The Temperatures looking pretty good out there. A little bit of rain today tomorrow,

maybe even in the Monday as well. Nothing you do about that,
but otherwise, temperatures looking good,sixties seventies, we'll take it. Well.
It's a nice way to cruise.End of the month of May,
next weekend of course Mother's Day weekend. And I just want to remind you
that if you get out to thelocal garden stores this weekend and the rain
may hold some folks back. Thisweek, next week, the following week

typically the three biggest week. Thispast week, this week, next week
the three biggest weeks of the springseason for most of the local independent garden
centers. That's when they are thebusiest. Kind of ramps up to that,
got about three weeks or so,and then it just kind of levels
out for a while. We getthe Memorial weekend and it kind of starts
to slow down a bit. Soif you, by chance are one of

the thousands they get out to thelocal independent garden centers within the next three
weeks, be patient. You're goingto ask see you a little bit of
backup in the checkout areas and thingslike that. Be patient with folks.
They'll try to get you through asquickly as possible, and why you're in
line, gardening stories or talk witheach others, what plants or whatever it
may be until you get checked out, But do expect that and they will

be restocking as quickly as possible.And I think sometimes folks will go into
a garden center and have a signthere but they're out of a particular tomato
or pepper or whatever it may be, and just assume that they are out
and done. But I think you'llask while you're there or check back,
because obviously they want to keep itstocked as long as it's available out there

with growers, so they'll try tokeep that going for at least a two
week to three week period to stayas full as they can. And usually
what you see in there over thatthree week period. Four week period is
probably more than they'll have any othertime the rest of the year when it
comes with plants. But they're tryingto keep restocked. So bear with them,
talk to them, ask them aboutus, see if they have any

idea what's coming in next summer.We'll offer online where you can go and
see inventories and things like that.So be patient. You know, everybody's
out there trying to get things plantedand all, and you know, it's
just be patient with them. Andwe got time. We got plenty of
time. As I said earlier,I will got the garden centers through the
end of June first of July andfind a pepper or tomato or something out

there that I've never grown before,and we'll still plant that late in the
season. You can do that.It's a later crop, but it's still
time to plant. So you know, the selections. Obviously, after this
three week period or so, we'llstart to go down, but they'll continue
to carry plants right on through andinto June easily. As a matter of
fact, we get the dills onthe I think we're going to be there

the first of June, and youknow, they've always still well stocked,
and the herb is still well stockedin vegetables and all still well stocked.
Lots of annuals to go, becauseit's important to stay going right in through
like I said, into June,get to Oakland a little bit later on
same way, very well stocked asthey get the middle of June. So
you know, it's not all over. After about two weeks after Mother's Day.
It keeps going. So let's stayin touch with your garden center.

Let them tell you and show youwhat's going to be coming in, and
you can just do succession plantings orplantings as you can. I thought an
interesting thing happened this week. Hadsomeone who had bought a fig and I
think it was a Chicago Hardy ifI'm not mistaken, which is labeled for
zone six by the way, zonefive in some cases when you read it.

But it's pretty tough, pretty hardy. And they had bought a Chicago
hardy fig and a like a threegallon pot, and the plants about twenty
four inches high. And looking atthe plant, there were two different shapes
of leaves on the plant. Therewere the regular fig shaped leaves, the
lobed round lobed leaves that you couldsee pretty much throughout the plant. But

there were also leaves on the someof the lower stems that looked like shaped
kind of like an aspen leaf somethinglike that. More you know, a
little bit of serration, but pointyleaf all right around at the bottom pointed
at the time, and wanted toreturn the plant because they thought they had
gotten two different plants in the middle, like this thing was reverting or something

came up or grew out of thebase of the plant that wasn't the fig.
And what's interesting is this happens,and it was the fig by the
way, so you know, butwhat happens is there in some plants they'll
actually produce two different looks of leaves. It's called polymorphism. You don't see

it all that often other than thefact these few types of plants that will
do this, but it's called polymorphism. Figs are one of the best at
doing that. And you see thesetwo different leaders, You're like, what
the heck's going on? But that'swhat it is. Sassafrass. If you're
familiar with sassafras with that mitton typeshape, they'll do that. You'll see
both of those leaves, and mulberryfalls into that category. You'll see mulberry's

with that same pointed leaf round itat the bottom seriata pointed and then of
course the lobed leaf that mulberries have, and you'll see both of them on
the same plant. It's I don'tknow that they ever had a true answer
why they do that. And alot of times we see some of those
leaves that are just you know,like a regular leaf shape toward the bottom

of the plant. But they do, and it's called, there was a
name for it, polymorphism. Andso if you see that on the same
tree as not reverting, it's notanother tree coming out of the trunk of
the tree or the roots, that'sit. That's what they do. But
figs, especially will do that.And if you've got a fig and you
see that happening, or you buyone and you see there two different shaped

leaves, that's what you got going. Polymorphism. And now you know the
rest of the story. Quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
open for you eight two one,WTVN eight hundred and sixty ten WTVN.
Here on news radio six to tenWTVN. All right, so let's think

about that. What are are plantsgonna love that rain fall in the grass?
Hmmm I wonder, yeah, probablyso I would imagine they would.
Yeah, I would say, yes, they will enjoy that. Am I
now a gardening expert too? Youhave just crossed over into that threshold now,
yeah, as a gardening expert,I think that you are so impressive,

it just I can't believe it anyway, talking to your gardening Aaron News
Radio six to ten WTVN, eighttwo to one WTVN eight hundred and six
to ten w TV and taking yourcall. As a matter of fact,
I purposely did not line up anyguests today because when we do remotes a
lot of times it's hard to takecalls because they're talking with everybody at all.
So it gives an opportunity to,uh to give a call and again

share a tip or if you've gotquestions, we're here to help you out
as much as we can. Againeight two to one WTV and you know,
talking about the Kentucky Derby today,and of course it's the run for
the roses. Each week I dopick a plant or two of the week,
the whatever's in flower, things likethat, and this week I picked
two roses and spearmint, And ofcourse I picked the spearmint because of the

mint julips. Uh. And theofficial spearmint for your mint julip would be
Kentucky Colonel and Kentucky Colonel spearmant.Will you can find that in all the
herb departments at the garden stores.As a matter of fact, of all
the spearmts, I think Kentucky Colonelis probably one of the best ones out
there that you can grow. It'sa it's aggressive, okay, as all

mens typically are. It's aggressive,but I think when you look at Kentucky's
Colonel Spearman has a wonderful folio,just outstanding. It stay's fairly compact,
and I mean it's stays nice toget full. And of course I like
the spearmint. You could use peppermintif you would prefer peppermint, but and
I know if you people who willmake men julips with peppermint, But spearmint's

the one you want to use.And again, Kentucky Colonel is the one
you want to grow and if youif you want to grow it at home.
As I've always said about mint,and you can ask folks this,
So we used to do this allthe time we give garden talks, was
that how many folks grow mint?And everybody would hold her hand up,
or a lot of people would.Then you say how many people wish you
didn't grow mint? And the samepeople would keep their hands up, because

as we all well know, mintcan be very very invasive, depending on
the selection, but can be veryinvasive. So I have always said as
a container gardener that growing mint,mint was meant to be grown in a
container. And you know, youcan get some of those larger containers like
that twenty gallon nurse Black nursery pot, very inexpensive, shallow, get the

squad one and grow your mint's individualmints that you like to use, like
the Mohito mint, Kentucky Colonel Spearmant, whatever may be, peppermint. You
can grow those in those containers andthey overwinter quite nicely in those as well,
and it keeps them contained. Now, you gotta be careful because sometimes
you'll see, like especially peppermint,I think Robert Mitchell's one of them.
Mitcham is one of it. It'lljust kind of right over the side.

Next thing you know, it's hangingdown to the ground they can escape,
but for the most part, mintis very easily contained. Growing them in
larger containers. And if you haveparticular mints that you like to use on
a regular basis, put those inthe pots individually so you've got some to
pick from. I look at basilthe same way. You know, if
you okay, if you are lookingto grow basil and you use a lot

of basil, just grow your owncontainers of it. Just get those five
gallon buckets and grow you know,five or six or seven of those of
the particular basils that you like touse, and then take it from there.
So anyway, Mint Kentucky Colonel Spearmantis my one of my plant picks
of the week. The other two, of of course, are roses,
two of which you've heard me talkabout this one forever because it's still my

favorite. Easy does it all?Right? Easy does it rose? And
I think the name says it allbecause it's so easy to grow. But
here's you got a rose that thepedal count is phenomenal, and they're ruffled,
and they're all different colors, coralskind of peachy, pink, mango,
oranges, apricot scallops, ruffled kindof spiral around nice shrubs. It's

a floor a bunda, shows gooddisease resistance, pretty vigor vigorous as far
as growing, good flower power,and a really nice fragrance. It's like
a fruit salad for the landscape.It's been around a long time. Most
of the garden centers still handle it, but it's called easy does it and
in a container or in the ground, absolutely phenomenal. The other one which

came out about two years ago,which I've been totally impressed with as I've
gotten kind of tired of the oldseries, but it's in the Knockout Rose
series. But this is called PetitPetit Knockout Rose. It's a small bush
rose and it's a knockout rose thedouble red crossbread with a miniature rose.

So you've got that medium that assmall, you know, not as big
as a knockout but not as smallas a miniature rose right in between.
Really tight grower. The glossy,dark green leaves are outstanding. So if
you just grow it for the plants, absolutely wonderful. But then the flowers
that come out, they are asmaller flower, probably about an inch and
a half in diameter or so,and They are a brilliant red and I'm

telling you it really stands out.This is one of those deals where you
get, you know, things coming. Big things come in smaller packages.
This is one that will flower foryou all summer long. Do a little
debt heading to help speed it upa little bit. I've had some folks
take those and put it about tenor fifteen in a row and make a
little hedge out of them. Butit's absolutely outstanding. But it's called Petit
Knockout Rows. So my picks forthis week Kentucky Colonel Spearmant because of the

Kentucky Derby. Easy does It Rose, because it's absolutely one of my favorites,
and of course the Petit Knockout Rowsas well. A two to one
w TV and is our number Dave, Good morning, Good morning, mister
rony sir. We took down adead white oak about eighty foot tall this

week. The lumberyard came and tookoff the logs, but the guy who
ground the stump came over this morning. I've got a great big pile of
stump grindings from that white oak,and I'm wondering are they good to put
in the flower garden in the vegetablegarden. What can I do with those

safely? Don't use wood chips freshwood chips as a soil amendment, but
you can use them as a topdressing. So a lot of times when
you have those big piles like thatwhere they grind things up. If you've
got a pathway you're putting through somewherethrough the woods or whatever, it is
great to make a pathway. Ifyou've got trees you need to mault around,

it's great for a top dressing foraround the trees in the landscape if
you can, you know, putup with that more coarse ground wood.
But fresh chips like that are highlyrecommended as a top dressing, but not
as a soil amendment. And thereason being is as they break down and
decompose, they take a lot ofnutrients out of the soil, and so

it can be tough to grow plants. Like if you went back and tried
to replant in that exact spot withall those chips in there, ninety percent
of the time the plants won't grow. They just can't manage that. As
as a matter of fact, sometimesDave, it's even hard to get the
sad or grass seas to grow inthose area areas because they're sucking the nitrogen
and all the nutrients out for thatto break down. So when you have

something like that, would I alwayssuggest to focus folks, would be sift
out as many as you can.Sometimes it's easier just to take all that
pile and get rid of it andbring in some new shredded top soil,
you know, refill it, walkit down so it settles down, and
then come back and replant if you'regoing to do that in that or level

it all out and come back anddo your seating or sowding. And I
throw a little fertilizer in with that, because even with that, you're still
gonna have some chips and some rootsbreaking down. So in answer to your
question, absolutely, if you've gottrees to put it around landscape bed mulching
on the top perfect. Putting itin with other soil and mixing it in
not so good unless you set itand compost it for six months and then

bring it out as a soil amendment. Much different story. Okay, that
sounds good. I do have abunch of very large trees, both shagbar
kickory and maple, and some morewhite oak out here that I can put
them around the bottom of Yep,that's a great multch for those. And

again that white oak, what agreat tree is. I'm sorry that you
lost it, but that's a that'san absolute outstanding tree and I love those
things, highly recommend them. Wellthe yeah, the oak hasn't had any
leaves on it for several years andthere was a chipmunk hotel on the base
of it. Yeah, they liketo do that as well. Hey,

Dave, we gotta go. Yougotta take a break here at the top
of the hour. But thanks forthe call and good luck with everything.
Bye. Thanks, all right,take care, quick break, we come
back. We're taking your calls ateight two to one WTVN, eight hundred
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