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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson. You're in the
garden if you'd like to join us, left to have you a two to
one WTV and eight hundred and sixtyten WTV and broadcasting live today from Darby
Creek Nursery and Landscape. Now thisis their brand new location. So if
you happened to just you didn't knowthat they had moved. And you show
up in the middle of Hilliard andthere's nothing there. You're only five minutes

away, only five minutes work quick, little John up Cosgray Road, turn
left on rings in your hair andyou're here because it turns into Amity Pike
and then here you are. Yep, brand new, well stocked as usual.
We got the food going, wegot the dogs and the donuts and
the old nine yards and the dog. Dexter came along as well. So
he's a fixture Inney. How long? Yeah, he's coming here every day.

How long have you had Dexter.Dexter's been with us about three years?
Three years. Yep. Everybody likeshim. Everybody knows them. Everybody
likes him. We lost our otherlab about a month ago Darby. He
was the white lab. He wastwelve years old, and Darby couldn't come
to work the last week about yearand a half, and so Dexter got
to stay home. But Dexter enjoysbeing here and he's probably become a good

dog on his own. He's verycalm, loves to see people, kids
love him. He just doesn't likeit. Kind of reminds me of Grant.
But just don't feed him hot hotdogs. I don't feed him hot
hot dogs. You don't want toknow what happened. That's go go south
real quick, all right. SoI brought up yesterday talking to Mike Elliott.
We were talking about coming out heretoday and I said, you know,

whether I always have fun. There'salways something new and exciting, just
like Dexter is entertainment this morning.So we can always well mark that one
down is remember when? Remember when? Of course we have the Larry Larson
stories with Larry eating so many hotdogs was phenomenal, along with the popcorn.
But one of the best is thattomato that's sitting right in front of
me right here, and that's theramapode yep. And you turned me onto

those many many many years ago.Yeah, and your mom had sauce at
the time. Remember you brought somejars of sauce. We got to taste
of salsa, absolutely outstanding. Soyou know, so and I bought some
and the grow some and my momabsolutely loves them as well. Well,
then there was a period of timewhere you didn't have any ramapos. You
couldn't get them, and then youknow, it's called the New Jersey tomato,

and then Rutgers University brought it backafter about twenty years. My dad
had always had it because he wouldsave seeds, dry him out and he
would reply to them because my momrefused the can unless she was cannon with
ramopose tomatoes. And you know,I always thought that was strange. But
last year, with all the construction, I didn't have a gardens, first

time I hadn't, and so Ibought tomatoes from a little farm market down
the road and I could just notget the sauce balanced. It was the
worst canning job I'd ever had.And the sauce just didn't taste good.
It's a there's a sweetness and apH to it. It's balanced that I
just could not figure out. WhenI was canning the pizza of sauce and

spaghetti, sauce and sauce and everythinglast year. Yeah, and that's out
of that Rutger series that when yousay in New Jersey, Yeah, yep,
and it was there. Then itdisappeared for a while and then it
came back again. Yeah, Rutgersbrought it back. And you can get
the seed now. I've been ableto get it for about eight nine years.
And you still say nobody can getthe seed. Just shoot an you
can get the seed. But itis a fantastic tomato. And I'll put

out about one hundred plants of itthis year. And but you know it's
you don't have to de skin it. It doesn't have shoulders on it.
It's a it's a meaty tomatoes.So when you run it through the grinder
to get the jews, it's justan easy tomato to work with. And
the pH on it's balanced so well. It's not too acidic. And because

I'm not a big tomato either,I like tomato product. I like every
tomato, but I don't eat tomatoes. Got it. My mom, of
course, got used to having thoseramaposts, and then when you didn't have
them anymore, and I couldn't planany for my mom. She quit talking
to me. Wow. So therewere several years of my there you go,
well I did. So last yearwhen we were here, you finally

got the ramapose back. So lastyear I surprised her with two rama pose
in her containers on her on herporch. She sent me more pictures of
that thing, those things in flourand blue, and then the fruit.
She loves them just to eat them. She just picks them and eats them.
Yeah, can she just eats them? Yes, she absolutely loves that
tomato. And it's a big tomato. It's an indeterminant. I mean,

I've had them get seven feet tall. Yeah. And I had a plant
probably three years ago that had halfa bushel tomatoes on I had three steaks
on it holding it up. Andthey're not huge tomatoes. There's size of
a baseball. Yeah, a goodbaseball. And they're just a fantastic plant
to work with, easy to grow, and they produce their heavy producers.

Hey all, I did, AndI used twenty gallon the nursery pots,
stuck one in there a little bitosma code, some tomato tone from a
spoma. Uh, and I thinkthat was the only time I put any
fertilizer with it at all. Shewatered him the rest of the year.
I didn't do anything. I mean, we did nothing. And that thing
that both of them, they producedlike crazy all summer long, and they
seem to kick in about third weekof September and they just go straight until

the first front. But she hadthem, she had them early. I
mean she had them, you know, right, normal timing, and it
just stuck with But anyway, she'sa happy camper, good one, and
so she'll make sure you take hersomething home. Well, I buy,
I got orders. Joe Boggs wantsa couple. I got I got all
kinds of friends that want them.You can see. I bought a bunch
last year and I took them backand then everybody I shared them. And
now everybody likes the riter. You'regonna get the Rami pose Yep, they're

gonna buy all the others too.We yeah, yeah, you know,
we We've probably got thirty different types. I mean, my god, you
can't have them all. There mustbe three hundred different types. But you
know there's the better Boy, theBig Boy, the Kellogg's Breakfast off four
July. That's for Mike Elliott wasa concern yesterday because you said, if
I come out there to get thoseramit pos kind of get my Kellogg's breakfast
too. Yep, I said,I'm sure Jeff's got them all. Yep.

So, but we don't carry someof the airlines. You just can't
carry them all. Nope, youcan't. But you got the best that
you think. We got the bestthat we think, and they're easy.
They're easy for the customers to growand perform. Well, now you do
something different when growing trees. Yes, that's a little bit unusual, and
I would like for you to kindof explain to folks how you grow a

lot of your trees. Well,we grow our trees and what's called a
growback. So, and believe itor not, that the industry is starting
to switch one of our major suppliersnow, which is great for us because
you know, when you know customers, I don't think they understand where trees
come from. I mean most ofthem are grown out in Oregon and they
grow trees out there like we growcorn. You'll see rows of trees three

thousand feet long and they're six inchesapart, and they have a harvester.
It goes in and shakes the dirtoff of them, and they put them
in these massive humidified warehouses and theysort them and grate them, and then
they put them on refrigerated trucks andship the must in spring, and then
we put them in the field.That's how it's been done forever. But

we're even seeing our growers now startingto grow in growbacks, which is good
for us because the biggest dilemma wehave is, you know, we do
we do retail garden center, wedo landscape construction, We have a tree
farm, we have an annual andperennial production area, and everything needs to

be done in the first to spring. Well, we got stuff in from
Robinson Nursery out of Oregon. Thenthey're in three gallon growbags, so we've
just got them healed in. Wecan go to the field with them in
June. They don't have to beplanted in that March first two weeks April
where you're fighting everything else that's goingon. So you know, we've probably
got seventy percent of the farm ingrowbags, so we can we can go

out if we need a landscape jobor we run short here in the garden
center. We need ten autumn blazemaples. You know everybody's done digging.
Now the season's done, we cango out and we can dig ten autumn
blaze maples and grow bags, bringthem in, heal them in the nursery
and they never know they've been moved. And is it the same type of

process as a pot and pot.Yes, yes, it's a lot more
labor intensive getting them into the groundwhere pott and pot's a lot more expensive
into developing the holding area, thesystem, the drainage and all that other
stuff. But for us doing whatwe do and the demands on our time
in the spring, grow bags workreally good for us, and we do

the same thing in the fall.We'll we'll plant maples, we'll plant birch.
Don't plant a lot of oaks inthe fall, but we'll we'll we'll
call our vendors that are growing stuffand grow bags. They'll ship stuff in
here September first, we I thefield's ready to go. We'll we'll line
them out and we cut that growbag off, put them in. We
all go a hole, put themin a growl. Use native soil,

so they're grown in native soil justlike it were if they're in the ground,
but it keeps that root system confined. The other thing we've found is
we get a much better healthier rootsystem in the grow bag because when the
roots touch that bag, it squeezesthat rootolph, which forcess the tree to
spring new roots. So we're seeingan established root system in a tree bag

tree three times better than when weget in the bald and bar laft tree.
Interesting, and you're about the onlyone around here that does it that
way correctly. Well, yeah,I think the sickret is we're small enough.
You get the big the Willoways ofthe world that are doing thousands of
acres. The manpowered installs just waytoo much. You just can't do it

where else. When we're lining outa thousand trees each year, fifteen hundred
trees, we got the time andwe got downtime. When Angel and his
crew aren't planting mums or growing annualsor shipping or whatever, they can go
out to the field. They'll clearit, get it prepped, and we
can line out a couple three fourhundred trees in the day. Unbelievable.
If you want to learn more aboutit, come on out. Jeff's more

than willing to talk to you aboutit. Darby Creek Nursery and Landscape is
their brand new garden center. Itis absolutely outstanding. Ninety to fifty Amity
Pike out in Plain City. We'regonna be here till noon. Jeff's gonna
be here all the time. We'rehere all the time, seven days a
week. Coming down, guys,and we're taking your calls at eight two
to one WTVN here on news radiosix to ten WTVN talking yarding here and

we're broadcasting live today from Darby CreekNursery Landscape. They are at ninety to
fifty Amity Pike and Plain City.So if you happen to go to their
garden center that's was in Hilliard atone time, and you also you show
up and guess what, we're notthere. We're at their new location out
in Plain City. Got to comeand see it. It's kind of windy.
Put some rocks in your pocket soit'll get blown away, but it's
it's really cool. Lots of plantsand of course the ramapo tomato that Darby

Creek is noted for, and hehas a Kellogg's breakfast to and about thirty
other varieties for you to choose foras well, well stocked with tropicals and
annuals and the trees and the shrubsand the whole nine yards, and of
course they've got the food. Justa great time, so stop out and
say hello. We want to puta special thank you to Gianna. Gianna
was here with her dad, momand dad, and she brought me a

picture of a flower that she coloredfor me and signed it and I will
hang that up in my office andI appreciate that. She said she and
her dad listened to us every Saturdaymorning so as she and she likes the
garden. So I told her ifshe has any gardening questions or tips,
you share and call us and checkin with us. We'd love to talk
to her on the air as well. So Gianna, thank you so much
for the wonderful coloring of this beautifulflower. And I will hang that in

my office. And we're taking yourcalls at a two to one w TV
and Tom, thanks for holding on. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Good morning this time, Krie.Yes, a paper birk Is it
a birch? It's four trunks onit, yes, sir. One of

the four is not leaping out atall. It appears to be dead,
and I'm wondering what might have causedand should I do anything to protect the
other three chunks? Is it newlyplaneted? Has it been there for a
while, It's been there for awhile. Okay. The thing you need

to remember about those when you're soldin clumps like that, ninety nine percent
of the time and I just lostmy whatever, ninety I can't hear anything,
but anyway, ninety nine percent ofthe time they are let me switch
out here real quick so I canhear what we're sam again, lost our
mics, earphones? Nope, nothingthere either. Yeah, I'm still here,

Okay, ninety nine percent of thetime, when you lose a branch
like that, a trunk out ofthose trees, remember that there were three
planted there, or four planted thereoriginally. They're typically in the fos so
a lot of times, you know, we remember those four are actually competing
with each other, and fortunately withthose they do a pretty good job at

doing that. But sometimes one ofthose trunks can be a little weaker,
didn't root in quite as well,whatever it may be. And you'll see
that happen every now and then whereyou'll you'll lose one out of the two
or three or four whatever it maybe, and never and it never at
least back out. You know,it's good to let us sit there for
a while to make sure you knowwhether it is or isn't going to leave
out, but then make a decisionand then go from there. But to

tell you exactly what happened, Idon't know, but we do see that
happen every now and then, andagain you got to remember it's competing with
those other four, so that canhappen occasionally. All you can do at
this stage if it doesn't come backout, and I give it a little
bit more time, obviously, let'sgive it through like you know, mid
to late May is to once youdetermine if it's not going to come out,

go down as close as you canto the ground, whether with printing
saw or whatever, and go aheadand take it out and get rid of
it. It's not good to leavethat dead one there with the other plants.
It can over time attract insects ordisease, and you might not want
with with the exist intrigue, Butthere's not a disease that's going to affect
the other three. I would doubtthat. And if I look at the

other three right now, I meanthe leaves are coming out good, right,
they look good. Yeah, theother three look very good. And
did this one look bad last year? The ban is one of those hoping
to take out anyway, Oh well, it's kind of convenient for you though.

It's all good news, all right, but yeah, yeah, I
look at it that way. Andagain, keep an eye on the other
three. If by chance you seehim starting to decline, there could be
other issues, other rude issues maybe worth having a certified arbors come out
and look. But otherwise, tolose one out of the group like that,
and the rest of them look reallygood, I'm not too concerned at

this stage. Okay, all right, very much, Thanks Tom, good
talking to you. Good luck withthat one. And Linda, good morning,
Good morning, ron Right Linda fromthe Greater Columbus Stallia Society. Hey,
how are you good? Keeping busy? This is our time of year
now, it is, so letme ask you a question. I haven't

had anybody call and ask yet,but is it time to plant those dalliers?
Are we still a little bit early? Still a little bit early?
We just parted up a few hundred. Is that all? So we're getting
this ready right now. They're aboutfour or five inches tall, and not
until after Mother's Day and if theweather is just fine, dead board plans.

And they will also put them outsidea little bit early so they get
acclimated to being outside. So yeah, and a lot of folks forget about
doing that too, as far asgoing and potting them up to get a
little bit of a jump start,so that when you're ready to plan outside,
what do you do? You watchthe soil temperatures. You just kind
of make a you know, ajudgmentcall and say, okay, I think

now's the time to plant. Ireally watched the weather channel, and I
go out a few weeks ahead oftime to make sure you're going to be
okay, And I don't rush itright And don't you find it better if
you're a little bit late planning themrather than too early. Oh of course
you don't want them to get frosted. So but we tried to stay a

little bit after month. Last weeklast year it was one week after Mother's
Day because we had a frost thatweek. And values do not like frost,
do they? No? No,No, they do not anyway,
I have a question on my hydranger. Yes, I have about twenty hydrangers

Kennedy Annabelle's, and I had noticedfor the first time ever that them the
leaves are turned around in a circle, and I think I saw a little
worm type thing in there. Yes, there is a butterfly. I don't
think it's going to be a butterfly. I think it's going to be something
that's eating my hydranger. Which doI do? There is an actual Hydraandja

leaf roller that will take those leavesand roll it around and protect itself while
it's inside there until it turns intoan adult and moves on it. If
you notice, it's there here andthere, but it's not on all of
them right right, So it's usuallyvery minimal. It ruins the leaf that
it's on, or two or threeleaves sometimes if they can pull them all

together, and then once that's done, those usually will brown out. But
otherwise it's something that you typically don'tspray for. If you want to clip
it out and take care of it, you can. But if you google
hydrangea leaf roller, I think it'llbring you up what it is. I'm
not sure if that turns into awing things. Still, I think like
a like a moth. Possibly,I don't think it's a butterfly, but

probably a moth. But it's prettycommon we see it showing up and then
it's typically very early in the springseason, like about right now. And
again, really not an issue withyour hydranges, Okay, I was really
concerned about it, and I openedup with you and I chilled the little
insects and I don't do that.Well, you know again it's you know,

if you take them out of there, and again I can't. I'm
pretty sure that is a moth ifI'm not mistaken. Now, I've got
to go look and see that forsure. But you know, that's a
great way to get rid of themrather than trying to spray, because usually
when they wrap those leaves around therelike that, you can't spray for it
anyway. So you open it upand you pull it out and you smash
it and you're it's a done deal. But I'm pretty sure it's a moth.
But I will definitely find out.Now, do me a favor.

I know you know how to geta hold of me, So if you,
if you get a chance, sendme a picture of one or two
of them, all right, andthat way I can post it on our
website show folks what they look like, and I'll give you a positive idea
on that as well, and thenwe'll touch base. I still need to
talk to you about that trip youwent on. It was fantastic. We
had such a good time at ourgate Dallia show. We got to assist

your judges and judging they made itstill very welcome. We got to meet
one of the top growers at hishouse for several hours and we just get
a presentation on Thursday at the SayotoVallet Guarding Club. So went really well
good. Well, I still needto talk to you more about that.

We'll share more of that maybe alittle bit later down. We've got to
take a break, but send methe pictures. I'll take a quick look
at it and we'll let everybody knowexactly what that thing is if it's a
mouth or butterfly. Okay, okay, and whenever you need me, just
let me know you got it.Thanks Linda, good talking with you.
Take a quick break, we comeback. We'll jump into the garden phone
lines at eight two to one WTVin broadcasting live today from Darby Creek Garden

centat it's the brand new one ninetyfifty Amity Pike in Plain City. Come
and see. It's going to behere till noon. They're here all the
time, but you got to seethis place. It's outstanding. Here on
news Radio six' ten WTVN broadcastingline today from Darby Creek. It's the

brand new Garden Center. You gotto come out and see it. It's
absolutely gorgeous. If you can't getout here today, totally understand. It's
always for fun seeing all of ourfolks that listen to the show and talking
with everybody. But if you can'tget out here today, obviously they're here
to stay. It's brand new,and it's every year is probably going to
just get better and better and betterall the time. You know, Jeff,
I think the interesting thing about everytime we're here, something new and

exciting happens. It's never there arememorable moments when we come here with that
we never forget, and today todayhas been that's just unbelievable. Yes,
what's it's here? First season?Yeah, but yeah, and Croucherer here,

everybody's looking at all the beautiful plantsand everything's going well, and everybody's
jumping on their pose too. AndI'm not. You know, I'm not.
I didn't just come out here tosell RAMI posse. I'm serious.
I couldn't wait for you to gethim to start growing them again, you
know how, My again, mymom especially. But it's a great tomato.
It is. Everybody that tries itloves it. Yes, it is.

And like I say, unfortunately I'mnot a tomato lover, so all
the others I don't ever try.I just need a tomato that I good
to can with. He wants meto predict a last frost. Yeah,
you see Memorial weekend. Maybe youthink you're safe by then, or let
me know when it's ever gonna dryup. That's true too, that I
wouldn't say so, I wouldn't.I wouldn't hesitate on the corn. Yeah,

yeah, I think that's a goodthing. But I'd get on.
I'd get on the corn. Butboy, the rest of it, I
don't know. So a little tenderyou never know. All right, you're
gonna wanna help answer some questions.Sure, all right, let's go back
to the gardening photo Marshall. Goodmorning, Hi, Hi, it's great
to talk to you. I listenedto you every Saturday. Well, thank

you very much, Marshall. Weappreciate that. I have a question about
my thoughts through Okay, it seemsright now I have a lot of like
brown spots on the front. They'vegrown really big. I need to cut
them down. But they've got alot of like I think it's like,

Okay, did you notice this happenedlast year too? Not on mind,
okay, just all right, justjust stopping to notice it now. Yeah,
yeah, okay, So I'm wonderingshould I cut that out or yes?
As a matter of fact, thatyou know, anytime you have any

browning like that, and chances arethere's a little stem canker that could get
in there. That's it happens withbox would. We've had it for years.
It's nothing new, and a lotof times we just think it's a
piece of diet. We go onand prove it out and actually that's the
best thing you can do is toclip it out and get rid of it,
and the box would recover from that. So you know, you want
to get that out of there,so go back in the box. Would

take that whole piece out, makesure you get rid of all of it,
and then as a new growth comeson this year next year, it'll
start to fill in those small holesfor you where you've clipped that out of
there. And if you do needto prove them and make them smaller,
it's actually best to do that beforethe new growth starts to come out in
the springtime and you make that,you know, a pretty and they'll take
a pretty good cutback, but youwant to try to do that before the

new growth comes out, so thatwhen the new growth does come out,
it flushes out where you would cutit back, and you, you know,
you start to get a nice lookingnew plant and then it just regrows
and fills back in for you.But most definitely go back in there and
clip all that dead stuff out ofthere and get rid of it, throw
it away. So it's not toosoon if I have to cut them back
now, because the stuff is Imean, I saw it a little earlier

and then I went back in abouta week and it's even more of it
on the it's just on the ends. Yes, Okay, then here's what
I need you to do. Ineed you to cut a couple of pieces
off of those tips and bring themout here. Or to a local garden
center. Bring them out here,let Jeff take a look at them,
because there's a couple there's a coupleother things that could cause that to happen.

It could be a winter kill.It could be boxwood leaf minor which
will cause those leaves to brown outfor you on the tips only, so
it could be it could be aninsect issue. And if you would bring
those here to Jeff, he'll takea look at it for you. Or
if you've got a local garden center, just take a couple of pieces with
those brown leaves on it and letsomebody take a quick shot, a quick

look, and then they can tellyou for sure whether it's insect or disease
or possible winter damage. Okay.And if it's insect, then we can
tell you what to do together.Don't do it until you find out what's
causing that to happen, and thenthen we make a decision about cutting it
back or cleaning it up or whateverwe need to do. Okay, I

really appreciate it. Thank you,good luck, and let me know how
it turns out for you, Okay, I will all right, all right,
getting a lot of box with theissues, mister Oh yeah, we
see it, you know, withlandscape construction, we see it all the
time, and uh, you know, but it's amazing how some of them
have been resistant to it. Youknow, we don't see a lot of
damage on the Green Mountains. Youknow, winter gyms seem to be unscathed

by it. But the problem isanybody's had winter gym twenty years. They're
eight by eight feet tall. Butyou can't cut him back a little You
can cut him back a little bit. But uh, yeah, we've seen
a lot of but you know,you know, I've listened to you and
the research we've done and stuff.I don't hesitate going back in with boxwoods.
Now I'm replacing with boxwood. Ohyeah, yeah. Now we're going

to some different you know, we'redoing some Green Gym, We're doing some
Little Missy, which is supposed tobe the new and improved Green Velvet.
We've probably got four hundred Misses inproduction right now, and that Independence and
Freedom series seems to be doing verywell and holding up to that. So
yeah, I mean, in GreenValet, it's been around for forty years

and we've we've had one hiccup inthat forty years, So I don't hesitated.
No, it's not. With everythingelse going on, with all the
new bugs and everything, and thisneedle cast going around. You know,
I think it's just a hiccup onBoxwood's radar, and I think they're going
to come out the other side.Okay, I think I'm with you as
well. Quick break, we comeback, we'll finish up. We're broadcasting

line today from Darby Creek Garden Center. It's a brand new one. You
got to come and see it.Ninety to fifty Amity Place or Amitypike in
Plain City. And again, ifyou show up at the garden Center in
Hilliard and it's not there, that'sbecause they're here. Come over and see
it five minutes away here on newsradio six to ten wtvn' hey, we

don't even buy Darby Creek's brand newgarden Center. That's where we are right
now, ninety fifty Amity Pike,Plains City, Ohio. Come and see
us. It's like being out inthe planes out west. It's windy,
it's all farm land around us,and it's a lot of fun, lots
of excitement, lots of food.I'm going to be here till noon,
and then of course Jeff's here allthe time with his fine staff. And
again, like I said earlier,if you go to their old Garden Center

and Hilliard, you aren't gonna findthem because they're not there anymore. Nope,
we're gone. They're gone. Theymoved, they left, they got
kicked out. I mean they knowthey left and way left. And they're
at the new Garden Center coming.It's five minutes away, literally five minutes
away to check it out. Andit's a beautiful drive, and it's a
nice drive, and it's been along time since. Like I said,
I you know, just come outof and we were working on the nursery
for Harley way back in the windYEP Scott Cavanaugh. Did you know Scott

back then? No, I didnot know Scott. He kind of ran
the nursery and then we worked togetherat the Garden Center there on an old
tangy and voice and mold memories there. How do you like all my antiques
I got hanging? I do yougot deer head on that? You got
to get a couple of those.You got antiques on the walls, size
on the wall. Most people don'teven know what these tools are. Isn't
that a nervous side. You sprays. But you know the funny thing.

Yeah, I brought up Popeye theother day and the spinach deal and
came around. Do you know howmany people kids, younger people had no
idea who Popeye was? Yeah,I'd get that. You've got to Yeah,
we're getting old, Ron. Yougotta be careful what you say anymore.
Joel's say stuff like that all thetime. Joe Boggs about something.
Gomer Pile is yeah, and nobody'slike who who? And it wasn't that

long ago. Hey, we gotanother caller. Let's talk to Lewis.
Thanks for holding on. You're inthe garden with Ron Wilson. Hello,
Hi, how you doing? Ron? I have a lot of ivy and
a lot of day lily day loisare growing inside the ivy. How do
I get rid of you of theday lilies? Yes, well, that's

a good question. Besides, obviouslyyou're not gonna want to me say this,
but physical removal if you can geta non selective vegetation killer on the
day lilies, and you might haveto put like a milk jug over the
top of them or whatever, soyou can spray it and not get it
on the ivy. Non selective herbersideslike kills all something like that will help.

It's going to take multiple applications.You're not gonna get all at one
time. Pretty good root system,but physical removal is still your your sure
bet. I have had round upkills all drift on the English IVY occasionally
and not do a darn thing correct. Matter of fact, you can't kill
ivy out with either one of thoseproducts. It takes multiple times, but
it could do a little leaf burnon there, so you know, I

would be cautious about it. Butusing the non selective herberside or hand pulling
or digging out it's probably your onlytwo options. I think it's going to
be. You know, I wasthinking about this when he's asking. I
don't know because I haven't seen himin to buy. Do they make any
weed wis anymore? You could geta weed wick well you know what it.
I don't think they do, butyou know, you use a sponge

mob sponge mop you could use.You could put rubber gloves on so you
don't get any on you, andyou could brush the foldage with that yep.
But anyway you can try to keepit off of the ivy as best
you can. It'll take multiple applications. Day lilies are tough. We all
know that rooted in Well, that'swhy you see them growing in the ditches
and anywhere else that you don't wantthem to grow. But you'll be persistent,

you know, be persistent. Howbig is the ivy bed at least
eight by eight? Well, that'snot bad. No, here's another option.
If you just simply cannot get thoseout of there, it may be
a situation where you just tear everythingout start all over again. You could
mow that ivy down low, getrid of all the ivy on top,

Let the day lilies come up,spray them, get them, get rid
of them to come back and replantthe ivy or let it regrow again.
Yeah, because if you hit thativy with a liquid feed, it'll it'll
grow, It'll come right back upagain. Yeah, I'm thinking of by
weed wet off the ivy as itgrows eight times in the spring might damage

my damage what the bull? Thebull won't have enough energy to keep coming
down. Yeah, that's true.If you just keep we whacking it off
till you're starving at to death iswhat it boils down to and that's what
you want to do, and you'vegot to be persistent, stick with it.
All right, good talking to you, Jeff Turnbull to my right.
Lots of customers all around us.We're at his new garden center, Darby

Creek Nursing Landscaping is ninety to fiftyAmiti Pike in Plain City, and buy
you guys again. I like whatyou've done so far, and you've done
a lot, We've done a ton. It's really cool and I look forward
to coming back and visiting on aregular basis to see what you're going to
continue to do as you continue toexpand and make it even better and better

and better as you go along.Well, you're welcome back anytime, Ron,
but on every time you come,we have a bunch of you.
First have today, we've had allkinds of We've got about ten two well
first so far. I think youcan't pay for that. I don't think.
Geez a little excitement out here today, but we have. It is
fun. And again I'm being seriousbecause that's what's fun about this. Because

you know you're going to see things. You want to change, things,
you want to add a little coverhere, more concrete there, you know,
and you're just going to keep changingit and it just gets better and
better and better, and it's somuch fun to come and watch that continue
to grow. Well, yeah,I mean we put a door in the
side of the retail house here justso access if we needed to get outside.
We didn't have walkway all through thestore. It's like a major thoroughfare

now. So I mean, customersare dictating to us what we need to
do in the future, because youknow, I spent years planning this out
and I got a lot of itright, but I got a lot of
it that I didn't even see itcoming. You're always tweaking, Oh you're
always and these are small tweets.We've got major you and you said it
exactly. You got to sit backand it's the old NBAWA Mana's by walking

around, yep and watch and letthe customers tell you what they like and
what they don't like, where thetraffic flow is, where the plants,
better plants should be here and there, Like you were talking about where we're
sitting here on this veranda. Whatam I going to do with in the
future. Man, I wouldn't jumpon it too fast. You're gonna wait
and see, you know, what'sgoing on, how the customers like it.
Then you make a decision. AndI think that's the fun part of

this. I'm kind of jealous becauseyou got so much a head that you
can do and tweak and change andadd to and oh it is, it'll
be fun. And I mean,you know, the girls have pushed me
for years. They wanted their dedicatedhouse for house plants and tropicals. And
you know, you know, I'mI'm you know, raised a farm kid
and corn and soybeans guy love shrug, love trees and were soybeans for dinner?

Absolutely, but seria, what doyou think Grant a little bit of
chocolate milk and then and child thatdown. But you know, these girls
have taken these houseplants to a toa to a thing that I never could
see it coming. I mean,we have stuff I've never heard of,
and these girls know it. Theylive it. There. You know,
there's this young generation is into thesehouse plants and plant parents. Oh yeah,

plant parents. Got to be aplant parent now, I mean Grant's
a plant parent, Oh big time. We got a whole half a living
rooms plants. Yeah, And Imean they just know these little ones and
they're teaching me how to do this. So you know, this is an
area we're going to get bigger andbigger and bigger in and we may have
to put another greenhouse up for it. Wouldn't that be a shame? Wouldn't

that be a shame. And ofcourse, you know if you missed the
old here Hilliard location, and whenyou walk in and go into the second
section, look up, that's theold framework from the haymout. We we
had a haymow that wasn't attached tothe building. When you know that wood
in there is one hundred and fiftyyears old. We packed it up,
had no idea what we're going todo. And I was in here standing

in the garden center in January andwe built this, you know, greenhouse
for house plants, and I go, it needs a pergola. So we
took that old lumber build a pergolaout of it. So everybody gets to
walk under the old barn when theycome in going into the retail greenhouse.
So if you're looking for a reallittle reflection back to the old place,
you've got the pergola, and yougot Jeff, and we even got older

stuff than that, how older thanyou. You're not gonna believe this.
All these antiques we have in thisbuilding are just showed up in hered.
We never bought one of them.Really, I remember the old Martin Seed
company. Yes, now this willthis will dumbfound you. I don't know
how it made to move, butwe got a Martin seed bag that has

a certification date on it. It'sgot a paper tag. Got it nineteen
fifty five, and it made themove. I got it framed, I
got to get it hung up.But a certification tags lived seventy five years
of paper tag on a back.I love it. So there you got
it, Jeff Turnbull, that thatthe picture. What molse do you want
old things from the old guy thatworks for you? Yeah? We got

to go all right aboud it.Thanks for having us out here, Jeff
Turnbull, Darby Creek again ninety fiftyAmity Pike, Plain City, stop out
and say hello, thank you Grantfor all you do. Thank you all
back at the studios, because withoutElla, of course, none o this
stuff would happen. Thanks to everybodyhere and the chefs and the cooks and
everybody and all the customers and dexbecause Dex really put on a great show

for all of us here to experience. Now do yourself a favor. Think
about where you're gonna plant a treeor two or three. Remember yesterday was
Arbor Day, So get out andplant a tree or two or three.
Keep those worms happy, get thekids and dogs of all in the gardening,
and make it the best weekend ofyour life. See ya.
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