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Good morning everybody, Welcome back.I'm Ron Wilson, and you are in
the garden here on news radio six' ten WTV and talking your arting on
this Memorial Day weekend. And asI promised, coming up next week is
the fifth annual Women in Horticulture Week, the celebration of women's progress and empowerment
in the green industry. And Ithink this is to me, it's very

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very important and I think a wonderfultopic. And the person behind all of
this really putting this all together andin the driving force, is no stranger
to our show. As a matterof fact, it's always fun having her
on and you may have seen heron QVC a few times as well.
She's from the Garden Media Group.That's her company as a matter of fact,
and it's a women based well she'lltell you more about all of that

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and the guard Group as a matterof fact, it's Gardenmediagroup dot com.
And the other website that you mightwant to check out for the women's Women
in Horticulture dot com as well,Miss Katie Dubou and Katie, thank you
for spending time with us this morning. I know you're a very very very
busy lady. Oh my gosh,good morning, ron. I am so
glad to be here finally, youknow, well, yeah, it's good

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to have you. I'll tell youwhat I was going to go through,
the whole thing about the president ofthe Garden Media Group and the host for
the QVC, which, by theway, kind of always puzzles me as
I'm skipping through the TV and allof a sudden you're on there. Our
dog who lays next to me alwayshits the remote makes me stop there.
Well, I paid him kindly.She thinks you're great. She can't wait

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to see you on QVC. Sonow you do it. You're so involved
with everything. As a matter offact, I'm going to guess that this
morning you've probably been out, hadprobably had three cups of coffee. You
weeded the garden, you dead headedall the plants, probably planted three more
tomato plants, and you're right nowand did a little zoomba dance while you're
doing that, and right now you'resipping on a wine spritzer in honor of

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National Wine Day. Well, Ido a lot. There's a lot of
whining in my house. But yougot some of the d some of that,
right, I know how you are, Okay, So let's not beat
around the bush here. Let's getright to what we're going to talk about
today, and that's the fifth annualWomen in Horticulture Week. You know,
I started reading some of the statisticsthat you have here and it kind of
surprised me. You said, allthroughout O real quick, forty seven percent

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of the workforces women, and that'sreally gone up over the last two decades.
But with our industry, the greenindustry, it's only nine percent.
And I think that kind of surprisedme because as I look around today,
and you know, I'm the oldman here and I've been in this business
a long long time, and Ican remember going to trade shows when you
didn't see a female anywhere, evenin the trade show where we are today,

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I would have said, man,it's a lot higher than nine percent.
I know. I was shocked whenI read that too. And you
know, when we do work,we do a lot of research before we
decide to do something, and we'lltalk about when we created or why we
created women in horticulture a week.But that was one of the big reasons.
It was looking at the disparity betweenthe national average and our industry,

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and I think that I don't wantto be negative. I want to think,
like you said, we have comea long way. We really have.
I know, my mom started mycompany and oftentimes she was the only
woman in an entire convention hall,and so I think that we have thanks
to people like her and others inthe industry, we've come a long way.

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But I really am excited about weekslike this and other initiatives in the
industry because clearly we still have someways to go. Oh, there's no
doubt about it. So yeah,bringing us all together. So I guess,
so as you look at this thisweek, so what do you guys
do to help get the word outthere to help encourage women to become involved

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in this wonderful industry of I alwayssay the green industry, but the whole
culture industry. Yeah. So oneof the things that is really important is
this community and making sure that everyoneknows that we've got each other's back.
I think that when there were sofew women, you know, it's a
little cliche now, but women heldeach other back. But now that we
are, we are talking about itmore and we're more open about it.

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We are all bringing each other up, so we're helping each other climb that
ladder or you know, I wastrying to think of a better plant analogy
climb that trellis. And I thinkthat's one of the big things here is
like when we talk about it andwe're open about the fact that there are
some struggles with that kind of diversityin our industry, we call it by
name, and then we can alljoin together as a community and bring each

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other up. That's the biggest thingthat we wanted to do with this week.
Number one is just call it out, but number two is create opportunities
for women. So create a place, a main central hub where companies could
put internships, job openings, speakingengagements events, because over the last even

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I'd say, you know, sincethe pandemic, there are women in horticulture
groups that I see popping up allover the kind of so it's really exciting
that if you're interested in this,this is a place where you can go
and actually find even greater community.And and of course the folks want if
they if they women want to learnmore about or anybody wants to learn more

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about it, they can go toyour website at Guardmediagroup dot com. UH
but they but they can also goof course to women at horticulture dot com
as well. You know, asI look back and again, like I
said, because I look around metoday and I look at the nursery where
I work, and I mean ourI look at our administrator, our director
of administrations late female, our HRperson female, are are propagating managers,

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all females. At our court teamfor the retail female And with that team,
you know, I'm seeing more andmore out there. But you know,
again, there's so many facets inthe horticulture industry that folks are women
can get involved with. Is phenomenaland expanding all the time. But as
I look back to the past,and I'll again you say to I'm going

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to just throw it out there,do you think the physicality of the industry
may have been a limiting factor atone time? You know, I think
the stigma of you know, sayingand you know it's it's a physical,
you know industry, and you know, I don't know if the women can
I remember hearing that many many manyyears ago. Well, what I find

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so interesting, you know, DavyTree, located there in your own home
state, they have more women whoare arborous now than ever, of course,
But I do think that the reasonwhy it was a profession that we
didn't think we could handle was numberone. Yeah, I mean, like,
you know, maybe maybe I actuallydon't know. I can't physically climb

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that tree. But also I don'tsee people there that look like me,
so I don't have any examples oflike I think I can't do it,
nobody else is doing it, soI must not be able to do it.
And so I love to see thatthey have a women's tree climbing championship
now, and there's just so manyvisuals of people like you listed, people

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who are doing the work, andwe can see ourselves in them as well.
But I do think that there wassomething to be said about just some
stigmas that were not welcoming. PlusI also think that we are slowly changing
the perspective of horticulture as something thatfor young people entering the field, maybe
their parents don't see it as youknow, it's like, well that's not

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the job I wanted you to have. But now it's becoming such much much
more reputable industry to show that thereare all kinds of careers that you can
have, you know, from beinga graphic designer to being in production like
video production, do me on socialmedia. Plus yes, of course you
can be out in the like climbingtrees, cutting trees, pruning them,

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doing science. There's just so manydifferent types of careers. So I think
there's a lot of shifts that havehappened. Well, I'm with you one
hundred percent. And you know thatagain that stigma about with a parent thing
and I don't want my daughter beinga lawn care service per technician or whatever.
It's like, no, I don'tthink that's what I want you to
get involved in. And I cansee that happening. Absolutely, it's still

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happening. It is still happening.And so that's one of the big things.
There's an organization called Feed Your Future, which is a fantastic nonprofit that
tries to educate young people, youknow, middle school, elementary school,
and high school on what the kindsof careers are in the industry. But
they don't just do that, theyeducate the parents as well on saying that

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this is a viable career, arespectable career where people can make a lot
of money. It's also a passionproject for many of course, we both
know, but you know, it'salso something that is really a very specific
career that you can have a verybright future in. Yeah, and I
will admit many years ago this industrywas not a high paying industry, and

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in some areas it's still not ahigh paying industry, but there are some
there are. It's getting better allthe time. And I've always said,
you know, anybody now that youknow has the desire and wants to be
in this industry and really pushing them. There's money to be made because everybody's
looking for really good people male andfemale, but especially female out there,

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So they're the opportunities I think continueto just get stronger and stronger. I
think anyway, all the time,I agree all the time. All Right,
Katie Debao, let's take a quickbreak and talking with Katie Dbao the
website again Women a Horticulture dot com. Katie's website, Gardenmediagroup dot com.
We'll talk more about this after thebreak here on news radio six' to
ten WTVN. We're talking women inHorticulture. That's right. Next week is

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Women in Horticulture Week, and thedriving force behind all of this is Katie
Debao. And then we've got Katiewith us this morning, and of course
we've had Katie on in the pastand her mom as well, Susie McCoy
with Garden Media Group, because everyyear they do such a fantastic job going
around the world finding all the trendsand upcoming new products and all of that
and put it all together and giveus gardening trends or trends for the upcoming

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year. And you guys, you'repretty darn good. I don't know how
you come up with that, butyou the color of the year sometimes doesn't
match pantones, but I like yourcolor of the year better in most cases.
Thank you me too. You saidit though. So we're in the
middle of trends for twenty twenty fiveright now. We are like deep in

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it, researching it. And it'sfunny you say, like, I don't
know how you do it. Sometimesat the beginning, we don't know how
we do it either. We're like, shoot, this is going to be
the year that we just bomb.And then at the end it just comes
together. Our team works so hard, so I can't wait to be back
on to share those with you.By the way, the entire team,
except for one is all a femaleworkforce. Correct? Correct? Yep?

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Does he know how lucky he is? I don't know if he would say
that, but yeah, I loveit. It's talking with Katie Dbau again
and get from guard me to group. Next week is women in hord to
Coach, so you know, lookingat that. So if somebody listening to
it today and maybe they have adaughter that's in high school or are going

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into college, or maybe they arelistening to our show, you know,
what do you suggest they do?I mean, how can they get involved
next week or any time to learnmore about what is available out there in
the world of horticulture for women.Well, I think the first thing you
can do is find Seed your Future. I mentioned that organization. They're a
great organization that offers year round opportunities. So you know, while we are

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highlighting the week to you know,we to draw marketing and attention to it,
they are working year round. Theother thing is look for local groups.
You know, whether it be yourlocal master gardeners, your local extension
service. There are different groups thatmight be near you where you can go
learn from people. And I alwaystalk about mentorship. I think that having

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a mentor finding a mentor and Iknow it's hard to find one, but
if you go, it happens authenticallypeople. And if you are one of
those people who are in the industry, you need to search out people to
be a mentor to as well.So it goes both ways. We need
to give back and we need tobring these young women up. So those
are two things I think. Youknow, you find local organizations and join

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and engage with those groups and finda mentor. And then also when you're
considering fields of study, if you'repassionate about plants, there is a job
for you no matter what industry youwant to be in. So again,
see your Future has a great listof all the potential jobs and you can
go see, okay, well I'mreally interested in in you know biology,

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Well, of course you can.You can you know, discover plants and
how a career could work for youthere. You know, when we were
getting ready to talk with you todayabout this, and I was went on
the website obviously the Women in Horticultureand your website as well. And by
the way, I have to saythis because I think I told you before,
the picture of you getting off theschool bus is just absolutely precious.

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Here I had a backpack with abutterfly on that one thing get too anyway.
But you know, you know,as I look, I started really
sat down. I start thinking tomyself, how many? Because I still
am blown away by this only ninepercent? Because I started thinking, you
know what about every author that weinterview on this show, and I only

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picked books that I really enjoy andcan easy read, and I understand has
been mostly women authors. And Ilook at the specialists that are on our
show, like our herbalist and ourbees, the our state apiarist, Barb
Bletcher. I mean, all thesespecialists that come on our show are all

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females in the industry. And Ikept thinking, man, it's only nine
percent. That's just that's crazy.But obviously that's the way it is.
But we're going to we have towork harder to get him in here,
because, like I said, it'scome a long way since I first started
in this industry. It's got along way to go. And hopefully with
making it continue to make it moreyou know, women more aware of what's
out there and what's available. Hopefullywe can just continue to bring that on

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because it's a I like it whenall the women are involved there, they're
smarter than me. That's and there'sno doubt about that. Well, no
comment there, but I do believethat comment about that. In general,
having a diverse perspective of people fromall different kinds of backgrounds and genders and
races, I think helps, youknow, the research shows actually that's just

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my opinion, but that it doesenable your business to have better ideas,
move forward faster. So it bringseverybody up. And you know, there's
no downside to just having a morediverse workforce, really there isn't. So
I think that we'll see this changeyear after year. Maybe next year it'll
be fifteen percent, and every yearwe'll get we'll get better and better.

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I think one of the things toremember is, you know, yes,
there are a lot of forward facingespecially in the fields, like you said,
authors, people who have careers likethat. But when you go out
to one of these big growers,you look in the field, you know
this is still primarily a male dominatedindustry. Oh yeah, no doubt about
it. So as you look growingup, because you weren't in this I
mean you you were born into thisindustry, but you really weren't into it

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after college, right, I mean, your mom. Your mom was and
then and then you came back.You came back to the fold, You
came back into the horticulture industry,and of course have been there ever since.
Besides your mom, I mean,who anybody that were major influences,
women that encouraged you to get backin and do what you're doing today.

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Oh my gosh, well to getback in. You know. One of
the interesting things. I actually havea sports broadcasting degree, and when I
started in that field, I workedat CBS Television, and I thought,
here's the dream I have made itand I regularly tell the story that it
was. It was just too cutthroatfor my personality. There were so few
women at the time. You know, that industry has changed as well,

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but so few women in sports atthe time that it was not an area
where I felt welcomed. And sowhen my mom called and said, you
know, they basically it's time,it's time. If you want to be
in this industry, you've got tocome back and try it. I jumped
at that opportunity because the garden industryhas always been, you know, when
I would travel with her, justa warm and welcoming environment, and one

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of the people besides my mom whowe knew. I knew long before I
came back to the industry is PeggyA. Montgomery, who I know you've
had on the show and she hasworked for a various number of companies in
the industry and she I am verylucky that she works at Garden Media Group
now. But she is one whohas always talked about the people who came
before us and how honored we areto have, you know, great examples

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of women who came before us andbe great leaders for the future. So
but you know, Peggy Ann,I have to give her a shout out
because she has been a mentor onknowledge and the willingness just to laugh at
ourselves and have a great time whiledoing really important work. Peggy and Montgomery
is a special person on our show. We have her on all the time.

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But you know that, and yeah, you're right, what a great
person. And she straightened me outbecause I said Hutton Morgan and that I
was hacking too much. When Isaid that, that's what that's a switch.
She did run off the bats.Well, that's that's not exactly the
way you say it. Let melet me get that for you. But
yeah, I what a great relationshipI have built up with her, and
of course with you and your mom, and again so many women in the

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industry. I just I hope you'reright. I hope this just continues to
grow and grow and grow. Weneed more women in this industry. There,
there ain't no doubt about it.Katie Dubou Bow again, Garden Gardenmedia
Group dot com, Women in Hortic, I went Women in Horder Coach dot
com and see I kill with Katiebecause the first time I ever had her

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on the show was I said,uh, du beau, and I'll never
forget that, and it was dueBow. And so every time I say
it is Dubao Bow Bow, justremind me all the time of what that
is. By the way, Hordof Futurism. I love that Hord of
futurism. Yeah, it wasn't thata fun trend? That trend this year.
I've seen it so many different places, and especially just that concept of

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how we are we are looking atthe future and how everything involves plants.
You know, the future is notall metal and cold and dark. It
is colorful and bright and bold,and it has lots of plants in it.
Are you enthusiastic about this or whatlike you said, A couple of
couple of cups of coffee helps andthe and of course the wine spritzer as

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well. Yes, National Wine Day. Don't forget Katie Deubao always a pleasure.
Gardenmediagroup dot com, Women in Horticulturedot com. It is Women in
Horticulture Week next week June the twentysixth, or May twenty six through June
the first correct, got it,Yeah, be sure and check it all
out. And again, if youever have any questions, Katie would be
more than happy to talk to you. I'll be more than happy to talk

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to and it helped to encourage youinto this industry as well. We have
a lot of fun and you cantell by listening to Katie she definitely has
a lot of fun in the horticultureindustry. Thank you so much. I
appreciate it. Have a great Memorialweekend, you two. Everybody, all
right, take care. Katy toBaw bawbaw from a garden media group.
She gives a lot of talks aroundthe country. She's like that all the

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time and if you by chance catchher on QVC. And now I'm getting
it. The sports broadcasting and theQVC. And I get it now.
If you ever catch her on there, that girl can do what you just
heard. She could talk about plantsand she is non stop. She's very
good at the QVC thing, Socheck it out. Sometimes she's pretty cool.

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All right, quick break, wecome back. Phone lines. You're
open for you eight to to onew tv in, eight hundred and six
to ten WTVN. It's all happeninghere in the garden with Ron Wilson on
Newsy Radio six' ten WTVN.Because there are so many of them out
there, it's crazy, and they'reintroducing new ones all the time, and
especially the macrofilo types because more peoplecall about, hi, my macro file.

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Hydrangea just doesn't flower, and youknow why not, And of course
they you know, if they dieback over the winter, you prove them
wrong. You lost all the flowersfor the most part. And they had
developed the rebloomers like the Endless Summerseries and and I'm not real consistent as
far as reblooming on new growth.That's what it was all about. Well,
I I can't believe this, andI'm saying this, but I am

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recommending you check out a new hydrada. It is a macro file I feel
like, and everything I've seen inthe trials, and and and and and
everything that I think we've got awinter here in more ways than one.
It's called eclipse Eclipse hydrangea. It'sthe first true dark leaf mophead hydraja,

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all right. So it's the mophead. So it's got the big roundheads on
it with I mean, the foliageis unbelievable. It is a intense dark
maroon purple leaf. All right,they're really I mean, it's unbelievable.
Stands like a I don't want tosay a sore thumb because it's beautiful,
but it stands out very hardy,holds up in that color, holds up

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in the heat. This foliage.Also, it's that the stems underneath it
are even darker, all right.And then the flower if you get the
pH just right, and it willvary just like the pinks and the blues,
it'll it'll have a kind of acranberry red flower with a little bit
of white or little bit of pinkin the center of it. I'm telling

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you, this plant is I thinkanyway, is absolutely gorgeous. It is
a standout you could use it asa focal point. You could use it
in containers. Now you have tofigure out how to overwinter it if it's
in a container, and it doesflower on old and new growth. And
I just growing it this year forthe first time, and so buying it

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in a container, what was comingwhat the flowers were coming off of right
now and it's starting. The flowerare coming off where they had cut back
the plant over the winter the spring, and that's all new growth coming out
of that old wood from very shortdown below. So it's reblooming right away.
I'm telling you if it check around. I don't know who all has

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this in stock yet. It isreadily available, but it's called Eclipse,
and there was a lot of hypeabout it last year. It's Cultivate down
at the convention center where they presentnew plants that are out there going to
be available the following year, andthere was a lot of hype about it.
And I looked at it. NowI know it was I thought it
was okay. But now that I'veseen this thing in person, growing it,

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now that it's in production, I'mliking it big time. And it
is a macrofila, So what canI say so, and I hope it
just seems like everything they've done withthis when it is working out. So
anyway, It's called Eclipse Macrofila hydrangeamaroon dark maroon all each darker marone stems,

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cranberry red flowers. If you wantto see it, you can google
it Eclipse Hydrangea. I've got picturesof it on our website at ron Wilson
online dot com. It's a firstEditions introduction. That's the plant brand and
it's something uh. And if thegarden centers don't have it yet, and
again I haven't really called around tosee if anybody's gotten it in they will

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trust me. This is This isa good one and I highly recommend it.
And if you do grow it,let me know how it did for
you. I want to know data, data, Good morning, good morning,
How you doing? I'm great?Data? How about yourself? Just
fine? Excuse me? You don'tknow you had a guy on there about
container guarding and when to fertilize.Well, I do most of the container

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gardening too. And when I startthem out the plants that I planned,
depending on how big they are,I will start them with bone me instead
of the time released, and thenI come in maybe two weeks or so
later on and put the time reliefsin. Now it says it will feed
it the three or four months,but like you're saying, when need a

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lot of rain, or you're washingit, or are you you're watering it?
Aching martial all way? How manytimes do your should I treat with
the time release? I just doit once, by the I figured by
the end of the city, youknow, by the time I course,
I do it at the very beginning, and by the time you know,
three months to say, we getstarted in late April, early May.

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Technically we got May, June,and July. We're getting into August and
it's probably starting to run out atthat point. But what I also have
done is I put in like Iuse like a spawmas tomato tone or garden
food garden tone, and I'll workwork that into the soil as well.
It's not a quick release, soit's a slow release. And then by
the time I get to looking atthese plants around August mid August, if

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they're starting to look a little tired, a little warm, and I'll come
back then with just something water soluble, because that's a quick release, you
know, it's available for the plantpretty much, you know, within a
few days, and do a coupleof shots of that if necessary, because
I'm looking at September ish pretty muchbeing done at that point. So that
I figured that the mill organ orthe mill organ, the Ozma coat will

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last me pretty much what I needthroughout the entire season. And the containers
my granular that I start out withthe water soluble to finish it up,
and that usually carries me through.What about Scott all purpose? What do
you think of that? Yeah,that's one of the well as a slow
release. Yes, time release.I've never used it, so I don't

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know. I don't have an experiencewith it, but I I and again
I don't know how long it lastsor how quickly it releases, but it's
something I should take a look at. But you know, because I've always
just worked with Ozma coat. ButI'll take I'll take a look at that
one and see, uh and seehow long that last. But I've never
used it. Have you used it? Oh? Yes, I used it
for years. So time release,Yes, I started that the way I

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told you, and then then Iwould put the time where they spend about
two or three weeks later on gotit, and I think it. It
does all supposed to do. Butwhen I heard you talking to this man
and Worshane out the containers, Ithought, well, I better find out
if I need to do more thanonce. Yeah, and again your plants

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will tell you that too, Imean they'll let you know. And I
look at I look at those fertilizersas a as a slow to be able
to last that long in the soilthrough all the watering. It's a very
slow light light feeding. So it'sjust a nice even you know, uh,
supply of nutrients in the soil throughthe season. And depending on what
you're growing herbs, that's perfect forthem. But you get into tomatoes or

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greens or something that's going to requiremore nutrients, you are going to have
to supplement. And that's where Icome in with the granular, you know,
also at the earlier in the season, and then supplement it towards the
end of just to get them throughwith the water soluble. And to me
that seemed that works out good forme. And I watched the plants and
sometimes they need it, sometimes theydon't, and if they don't, I
don't feed them. I let themfinish out the rest of the season.

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But I've never used the miracle growthe slow release. I'm gonna have to
look into that one. Yeah,they have several different types for different several
different things, and I've always usedand had good results with the Last year,
I had too many tomatoes. Ididn't know what to do with them,
was so I froze them. That'sthat's a good problem to have,
isn't it. Yes, it is. They would good to eat too,

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and I keep them away. Thereyou go. I love it. Hey,
Dane, always a pleasure talking withDo you have a great Memorial weekend?
You too? Take care? Allright? Take care? Quick break,
we come back phone lines. You'restill looking for you. Eight two
to one w TVN, eight hundredand six to ten w tv in here
on news radio six to ten WTVN. It is Memorial Day weekend. Of

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course, we all get together hereand join the whole nation and honoring and
remembering the fallen heroes that gave theirlives for our freedom so that we can
do what we're doing right now.Talking about Yardning on six' ten WTVN.
Going to the Reds games this eveninggoing out to watch foot soccer,
whatever football, whatever it may be. We thank them for giving us our

(28:27):
freedom. So thank you very much. And if you've got something going on
in your neighborhood, your events,community, whatever on Memorial Day, please
be sure and join in and againhelp to honor those folks that gave it
all. We thank them very verymuch. Talking to Yearning again at a
two to one WTV, and Ihad someone ask me this week. I

(28:47):
thought was a great question. Hesaid, you know, I remember it
seemed like everybody used to put downlime on their yards every spring. It
was kind of a tradition. Youbring in bags of lime and you put
it down. Your lown would lookwhite for several days until the rains or
whatever washed it off. And youknow, it's to sweeten the soil.
I remember that was the big thing, put down lime to sweeten the soils.

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Why don't we do that anymore?Was the question. And my answer
was simple, is that we didn'tneed it. As a matter of fact,
most of the lawns around here didn'tneed it, or the soils didn't
need it, because it's our phsare already so high or into the sevens
that lime wasn't really necessary. Itwas one of those old things that we

(29:29):
thought we needed with in essence,we really didn't. And that's why today
if anybody ask about putting lime down, whether it be in your vegetable garden
or in your lawn or whatever itmay be, my suggestion is always this,
don't do anything with lime until you'vehad your soil testing, get the
pH level, find out what yourpH is, and then take it from

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there. Now, there are someareas that they've lucked out and their phs
are down into the sixes and lowersix you may want to bring it up
a little bit that you'd have toask we had lime, but for the
most part you'll find us in thesevens, seven to two, seven to
four. Sometimes it's seven to six, and you add lime and it just
gets higher and higher and higher,which you don't want. So that was

(30:12):
the reason why that kind of wentaway many many years ago because of the
research is Shoe that showed that we, guess what, really didn't need the
lime in our soils because the phswere already leveled that we needed to lower
down anyway. So interesting question thinkingback to the past, and matter of
fact, the Memorial Weekend. WhenI was first getting into this industry back

(30:33):
in high school, you know,it was the week before that, ten
days before up to through Memorial Weekendwas like the garden centers geared up with
flowers, the geraniums, the petuniasand marigolds, you know, and there
was a very small selection, butthe annuals and the tomatoes and peppers.
That was the big two weeks andweekend for putting those in because you waited

(30:55):
till the end of May to getall that stuff planned, so you didn't
take a chance with the US oryou know, late late frost taking out
what you bought. Of course,today, first warm day in March and
everybody's out looking for tomatoes and peppers. A two to one w TV and
Terry, good morning, Good morningsir out here. But hey, I

(31:15):
have a question. I've been fortunateenough to come in the position of a
couple of pumpkin seeds from a coupleof the state champions from last year.
I've bench botting, I water themwell, I keep them under the heats
of the state's body degrees, andthey won't sprout. You can't get them

(31:41):
to sprouted. Nothing has come upfor you nothing's come up, and I
pinked at one of the seeds andnothing's happening. How how long have you
hadn't planning? Three weeks? Oh? Yeah, they they should have sprouted
the first week. Should I takethem out and try them some other way?

(32:02):
Are they still solid? Yes?They don't feel soft or anything.
Yeah, it was. And youput them in potting soil. You're keeping
them warm? Yes? Right,I have it overwater. No one wrong
them exactly, So you've done it. It sounds like you've done everything right.

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Boy. Why wouldn't they crack outof that shell at this? Yeah?
Because he usually within three to fiveseven days you already see something popping
out of the ground with a seedattached to it. Right, So,
I don't know what else to tell, you know, one guy tell me
take them? One guy tell meto take them out and put them between

(32:42):
what paper towels with the heat lyingall of them. Well, you know
the paper towel method, does youknow? Is a great way to figure
out if they still will germinate ornot because it keeps good moisture around it.
Uh, you know, it's aneasy way to check your germination rates
on your seeds and they're right,keep them warm and put them between that.
But to me, it's no differentthan what you're doing in the potting
soil and keeping good even moisture.I mean, you can try one of

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them that way. I'll tell youthe other things. If you have access
to a computer, go to BigPumpkins dot com. And that website is
where all the giant pumpkin growers haveconversations there, and you can actually go
in there and ask questions. Andlike Jerry Rose, who's on our show
on a regular basis, you know, he's been a state champ and he

(33:29):
said all kinds of records. Hereads that a lot as well, and
maybe somebody could throw another answer outto you as far as that seed germination.
As a matter of fact, hemay be listening to the show right
now. But you know, checkthat big it's Big Pumpkins dot com and
you can communicate on there and seeif somebody else would give you some ideas,

(33:49):
because it sounds to me like you'vedone everything right so far. And
if they do, let us knownext week what you hear back from.
I'd be curious, all right,bron I appreciate it, Thanks right,
all right, Terry good talking toyou and good morning, Hi, Ron.
I have a question. We haveabout an acre and a quarter and
the back is a little wooded,and then we have a big lawn and

(34:12):
we're seeing ticks in our lawn now, So I want to be careful with
the environment. But we also havea lot of people over and in our
lawn and I don't want them toget ticks. So what can I do
to get rid of the ticks?That's my first concern. Well, you
know there are there are commercials.I don't know of any. I don't

(34:32):
know of any all natural sprays thatare that effective against ticks. Otherwise you
get involved. I mean you golook at Scott's I mean the furtlough O
high yield. They all make alawn and psycticides that will cover ticks as
well, both granular and water soluble. But they're not natural, they're synthetic.

(34:53):
So if you if you do thatand you want to spray before you
have your guests, look at thetiming wise you want to to do it,
you know, at least a dayor two in advance of your get
together to try to knock them down. And you're not going to knock them
all down, but you may knockdown or suppress quite a few of them.
But you know, again you've gotto give it time between your application

(35:14):
and when your party is going tohappen. But otherwise, as far as
an all natural for tick control,I am not aware of of one that's
that it's effective for ticks. Andof course the other thing is uh,
and I know people don't want todo. This is actually wearing the the
repellents yourself, sure, and havingthat available to people just and say,

(35:35):
hey, you know there's a chanceyou might want to put a little repellent
on or do whatever on you aroundyour feet and your legs. Uh.
And then of course advise everybody toinspect themselves when they're done, because that's
the other big thing as well.But boy, I don't know of any
natural natural sprays. I'll have tolook into that. I've never had the
I've just always looked at, isthere something I can do this more long

(35:59):
life rather than just right before wehave someone over? No, No,
you know the thing that is,well, the thing of it is if
you go out there and spray,I mean, obviously you're going to reduce
the populations, so you're gonna knockdown the populations. And by mowing on
a regular basis, you know,getting their habitat away from the house,
the higher grasses and any other thingsfor them to hang out on, that

(36:21):
helps reduce populations as well. Sojust general maintenance and you know that type
of thing will help you, there'sno doubt about it. But we got
to go. I appreciate it.Boy, ran out of time already.
What do you want you in theclock. Have a great Memorial weekend.
We'll talk to you necessary at Dill's. Come and see us
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