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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jesse Kelly on seven to Tenoorday, The.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jesse Kelly Show, Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show
on a fantastic Monday, and we're going to get into
a little bit more history as it pertains to our
modern conflict today or potential modern conflict. And we're switching
gears to some emails, domestic issues, move off of this stuff.
But you know what time it is. It is the

(00:36):
start of the second hour on Monday, and so we
are going to do what we always do at this time,
and that is Medal of Honor Monday, where we take
a Medal of Honor citation, the write up on what
these heroes did, and we read it and we do
take recommendations on top of your love, hate and death threats.
You can send recommendations if there are ones you like

(00:57):
or have a relation to, to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow
dot com. This email says, Jesse, may I recommend you
read Sergeant Alvin C. York's Medal of Honor citation for
Medal of Honor Monday. I wrote a paper on him
for a homeschool project. I thought it would be a
good one to read. Also, a little background on sergeant York.

(01:17):
That he was raised in Tennessee, and he was also
a pretty big guy who was also a very adept sharpshooter.
And that's from eleven year old named Isaac Love. That name,
by the way, editors editor slash Dad's note, I Love
this wrote a paper is an understatement. He and his
classmates each studied a person from US history, wrote a

(01:40):
paper on them, then dressed in character as that person
to give a short speech on that person's life in
front of the community audience, as well as being available
to answer further questions. After says his name is Brian,
father of five boys, says I can use their names,
so without further ado, let's pay our respects to Alvin Caullium, York.

(02:06):
Alvin c. York. Everyone's heard of Alvin York. Now I'm
gonna warn you beforehand. This Medal of Honor citation is
criminally short. That's because it's pre World War Two. Remember
the Medal of Honor citations picked up in World War Two.
They got more descriptive, it got way better. That's why
most of ours are World War two and beyond. It's

(02:29):
not that the heroism was any different. They just didn't
spend a lot of time on them. So because of
the brevity, how about that word, Chris, you can't use
that word. Because of the brevity of this Medal of
honor citation. I will expand on it a little bit
after I get done reading it, and I'm just gonna
read it verbatim. So this is Alvin Colliam York, US

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Army born in Fentrist County, Tennessee. And this is obviously
from World War One, Hey, honoring those who went above
and beyond its medal of honor. Monday, after his platoon

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had suffered heavy casualties and three other non commissioned officers
had become casualties, Corpor York assumed command fearlessly. Leading seven men,
He charged with great daring a machine gun nest, which
was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon and
his heroic feet. The machine gun nest was taken together

(03:33):
with four officers and one hundred and twenty eight men
and several guns. And I'm not even kidding. That's it
for the citation. So let's expand on this just a touch,
shall we. Alvin York grew up big family, tons of kids,

(03:54):
and it was one of those big families back in
the day where everybody had to go to work. Everyone worked.
They were a hard working Tennessee family, as there are
many today now. Alvin Yorke in his youth was a
huge drinker and fighter. He was physically a big dude anyway,

(04:14):
but he had a real alcohol problem and a very
violent man. And it's just, honestly, I realized they made
a movie about it back in the day. I think
it was Gary Cooper who started in it. But they
should do a more modern version of it because the
story arc here is amazing. He's this drinker and this
fighter gives his life to Christ, sets aside all those ways. No, no,

(04:36):
I'm done with all that now, the drink and the fight,
and I'm done with all that. World War One comes,
he had to enter his Selective Service. This was not
an option back then, and he said on his paperwork
he said, I don't want to fight. I mean, he
signed out the way he was supposed to, but he said, no,
no fighting for me. I really I don't believe I'm
supposed to hurt anybody. I think that's against the teachings

(04:58):
of the Bible. So that was kind of out went
then Alvin Yorke gets called into his command essentially his
commanders I won't go into the details of it. And
his commanders were all Christian men, and they were telling him, hey, Alvin, look,
you forgot about this verse and this verse and this
verse in this verse that you can go be a warrior.

(05:19):
That's that's acceptable, it's not committing murder. Whatever they said.
I wasn't there. Whatever they said, Alvin Yorke walked out
of there and was totally okay with going to kill people. Now.
The deal was, there was this line in Germany known
as the Hindenburg Line. Who was he was a German general,
It doesn't matter, but the Hindenburg line, this line was

(05:42):
a defensive line, and there is a hill. You could
actually go look at this hill. I believe hill two
two three. I don't know why I remember that. Chris
looked it up and see if I'm right about that.
I believe it was hill two two three. It doesn't
matter the number, but it was hill two two three. Ha, ha,
in your stupid face, all right, hill two two three was.

(06:02):
You can go look it up right now. It's a
hill that was overlooking flat ground. It's where you would
want to be if you were dug in on the
defense the Germans were. The Americans York was part of
this group, were given the task of getting infiltrating. Basically,
get behind those lines and stop this machine gun, nest

(06:24):
stop it. It's a very deadly job, a very dangerous job,
and a lot of Americans died in the doing of this.
I thought it would probably be appropriate to read Yorke's
comments on what he did. It's just so amazing what
he did. Here's what he said. Quote. The Germans got us,
and they got us right smart. They just stopped us

(06:48):
dead in our tracks. Their machine guns were up there
on the heights, overlooking us and well hidden, and we
couldn't tell for certain where the terrible heavy fire was
coming from. And I'm telling you they were shooting straight.
Our boys just went down like the long grass before
the mowing machine at home. Our attack just faded out,

(07:08):
and there we were lying down about halfway across the valley,
and those German machine guns and big shells getting as hard,
and those machine guns were spitting fire and cutting down
the undergrowth around me something awful, and the Germans were
yelling orders. You never heard such a racket in all

(07:29):
your life. I didn't have time to dodge behind a
tree or dive into a bush. As soon as the
machine guns opened fire on me, I began to exchange
shots with them. There were over thirty of them in
continuous action, and all I could do. What I love this,
and all I could do was touch the Germans off
just as fast as I could. I was sharpshooting all

(07:51):
the time. I kept yelling at them to come down.
I didn't want to kill any more than I had to,
but it was they or I, and I was giving
them the best I had and he did. And I
love that little excerpt because when you look at the
picture of the hill Hill two two three, and you
picture what it would be like to be halfway towards

(08:12):
that hill, halfway across that open ground, with machine gun
nests dumping on you, it's amazing anybody lived. It's amazing
anyone that and to charge and just start mowing through people. Amazing.
But that's the story of York. Sergeant York he's famously
known as but he was only a corporal at the time.

(08:33):
He got promoted to sergeant immediately afterwards. That happens when
you happen to capture half the German army. But that
is the actual story of Sergeant York World War One.
How about that? And remember this, This is nothing against
city boys or city folks at all, because, as I've
told you many times before, I love the city, I

(08:53):
love the country. I love it all. I just enjoyed.
I enjoy all aspects of it. I like. I like
going to New York City, which we'll get to in
a little bit. I like being a Montana I like it.
But rural boys make the best troops. I know it's
not universal, so don't email me. I'm from New York
and I don't care. I don't care. In general, rural

(09:16):
boys make the best troops because they grow up doing
things that you will have to do as a soldier
later on, but that's just part of their life and
so there's not as big of an adjustment period being
outdoors for someone like me. I grew up hunting and fishing,
my hiking. We were always outside, always doing that stuff.

(09:38):
So when I got to the Marine Corps, being outside
was not a big deal. I mean, it's not like
I enjoyed it. But when it's one hundred and twenty
five degrees out.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
But do you get it, They're gonna be bugs. You
gonna sleep on the hard ground, You got it.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
There's less of an adjustment period when it comes to shooting.
It really can't be discounted. Alvin York grew up hunting,
and not just for funzies. He had to feed his
fan that Alvin York grew up shooting. He was a shooter.
So a bunch of Germans are shooting at you from
the hills, he said, And then if you look at

(10:10):
the valley, there's no room to hide. There was no
other choice. You grab the weapon and kill them before
they kill you, or you're gonna die. Those guys just
tend to make really, really, really good soldiers. Is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday. All right, let's
talk about something else historical before we move on to

(10:31):
other things, other news of the day, things like that.
See we already talked earlier about Trump wanting to be
done with this whole Iran Israel thing. He's made several
public comments today to that effect as well. Hey, I'm
now calling for peace. He put out some long statement
I'm not gonna read about Iran. He's like Yeah, we

(10:52):
knew they were coming. They gave us a heads up.
Appreciate the heads up. They didn't do any damage. Hopefully
Iran is now ready for peace. Trump is talking to it,
and Yahoo is like, Hey, time for peace. Let's make
let's make a deal. Now, let's make some peace. Donald
Trump wants to be done, drop the bombs on the

(11:12):
nuclear facilities and walk away. All right, let's talk about
World War one again, but in a different way. Just
stay with me. Talk about World War one again? How
do we end up in that war? Remember I've been
studying politics since I got out of the Marine Corps,
so that's probably twenty years now, two decades. I've seen

(11:36):
a lot of poll numbers, President, Congress and pull pulling issues,
pulling man pulling, mymit of it, all kinds of poll numbers.
I've never ever seen anything pull At ninety seven percent,
you know what percentage of America wanted us to stay
out of World War One while it was going on?

(11:56):
Ninety seven percent? That's the entire country. All right, let's
just call it one hundred. I don't know who those
other three percent freaks are. That was the whole country.
But we got into it, Okay, well, I want you
to picture this scenario. I want you to picture this scenario.
You're out with your buddy. You're at a bar. A

(12:22):
couple of dudes, not you two. A couple of dudes
square off. They want to get in a fight with
each other, not with you two. They're getting ready to
fight with each other. You don't want to get in
the conflict. Your buddy wants to jump in. He wants
to fight too. Now he knows you don't want to fight.

(12:44):
He's aware of that. He's gonna respect your wishes, and
he's gonna say, man, I'm not gonna touch anybody. I'm
not gonna throw a single punch, but I'll defend myself.
Obviously I have no choice, but I'll defend myself. And
so when the other two guys square off and start,
your buddy steps up, starts screaming names at them. When

(13:06):
all their bloods up, their adrenalinees up, Hey, wos you sucked?
Now your buddy ends up getting hit, punch is thrown. Well,
now he's in a fight, and now you're in a fight.
Let me ask you something. Why are you in a fight? Now?
You didn't want to, your buddy said you didn't want to,
and your buddy didn't throw a punch. Your buddy created

(13:29):
the circumstances that we're going to guarantee that you were
going to be trapped into a fight in World War One.
America did not want to get into it. Yet Woodrow Wilson,
our president at the time, very much did want to
get into it. We know that now wanted to get
into it bad. He wanted to march the armies forward,

(13:52):
like all these world leaders want to do. For the
most part, the sinking of the Lusitania is one of
the most famous reasons we got into World War One,
along with the Zimmermann Telegram. That's a telegram Germany had
sent to Mexico telling them to attack us. But we'll
focus on the sinking of the Lusitania for right now.

(14:12):
We weren't involved in World War One. America didn't want
to be involved in World War One. But you know
what we were doing loading munitions onto essentially cruise ships.
To think of a Carnival cruise ship, a Norwegian cruise ship.
Think about America loading a bunch of artillery shells onto

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one of those, because that's basically what we did, and
sending it over to Britain artillery shells American artillery shells
that were going to be used to kill Germany. Germans. Germans,
they were not fools, and stopping your enemy from importing

(14:54):
munitions is an important part of fighting a war if
you can cut off their supply lines. Eventually Germany they
bring down that ship who got us into World War One?
How do we end up in the war? In World
War One? Donald Trump wants to be done with this.

(15:16):
I want to give him credit. I think it deserves
all the credit in the world for that. Take out
the nuclear facilities. Hey, we're done. I got that. How
many different entities want something different? I brought up the
intelligence services. What do you think they could do? What

(15:36):
could they do? The version of you, you know, one
brother harassing another brother where he's just holding his finger
an inch from his brother's face and I'm not touching you.
I'm not touching you. Could they do something like that?
They could? What about Israel? Israel, as we discussed, is
uniquely invested and understandably invested in the takeout of this

(15:59):
entire They're not interested in some sort of a peace
deal for them. They don't think that's even possible. With
the Ayatole and they're probably right about that. They're not
interested in some kind of a deal to what Trump's after.
Now what can they do? What will they do? I'm worried,

(16:22):
I put it that way. I understand what Trump wants.
I applaud Trump for what he wants, but we have
created a situation where we're almost baiting them to beg
us to get in and you can see how that
could go bad quickly. Anyway, let's move on past that,
because I want to discuss our country domestically. In fact,

(16:44):
it's going to sound related to that, but it's not.
We didn't tell Democrats before we bombed Iran. How do
you feel about that? I have emotions that are complicated.
I'll explain in a minute.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's Jesse Kelly on the Voice of New York seventoor.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on Monday, reminding you
you can email us love Hey, death Breats whatever you
would like Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now let's
discuss something more important for you for me, our domestic situation.
Here is a country. Because this little tidbit came out,

(17:35):
I mean, people were praising the operational security of this
whole bombing affair, meaning nothing leaked. Things always leak all
the time. Things leak everyone knows ahead of time. It's
all over social media. But we had this.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
This is an operation.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
In the last eighteen years since I've been at the Pentagon,
I've never seen such operational security.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
There was no speaking about this. Great, that's good news.
I think opsec is operational security. Opseck is a good thing.
Don't you good? Kay? Why how did that happen? Is
it just better leadership? Pete hagsat Donald Trump running things
the right way? Well, that's part of it. But Ronnie

(18:22):
Jackson went on the news and this is what he said.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Really key that we had operational security in order to
pull this off. We've been talking about that. That was
key in what happened. And you made the comment earlier
about you know, notifying Congress beforehand. That cannot happen in
this situation. We do not have trustworthy people in Congress,
especially on the left side of the aisle. If you
tell Crockett and to leave, and Omar and Pressley and
even Thomas Nassey and people in our party like this

(18:46):
at this particular point.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
You might as well put the Tola on the phone
as well. We had operational security because we didn't tell Democrats.
Caroline Levitt attempted the best she could, uh massage that situation.
But I think you and me we can both read
between the lines here.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
We did make bipartisan calls Thomas Massey and the Democrats.
He should be a Democrat because he's more aligned with
them than with the Republican Party. We're given notice the
White House made calls to congressional leadership. They were bipartisan
calls in fact that Keim Jeffries couldn't be reached. We
tried him before the strike and he didn't pick up
the phone, but he was briefed after as well as

(19:27):
Chuck Shot.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I love that part. Hey, we tried him, he didn't
pick up the phone, but we briefed him afterwards. Hey, Keem,
what did you not answer? There must have been some
shoddy cell phone service. Maybe you should have got pure talk. Okay,
so we achieved operational security because we didn't tell Democrats.
All right, Well that's good. I'm glad we got operational security.

(19:53):
I'm glad we figured out how to achieve operational security.
You can't tell the communists a VERSI.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
All that stuff's good, here's what's bad. What where does
that leave us as a country? Think about that for
a moment, no matter what the issue, and remember, just
let's keep this in mind. The leaking of military plans

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kills people. You know, the saying. You've heard it before,
No matter how old you are, you've heard the saying
loose lips sink ships. That's true when the word gets
put out. When military plans are known ahead of time,
people die. And that is why they're known by everyone.

(20:49):
Small children know that when military plans are put out
ahead of time, people die. If we the United States
of America, if Donald Trump's White House had told Democrats
about his plans, Democrats would have leaked it to the media,

(21:11):
and possibly we don't know, but possibly it would have
resulted in the death of American troops. So let's just
go ahead and cut out the middleman. If we have
told Democrats beforehand, they would have tried to have American
troops killed. I am thrilled we achieved operational security, but

(21:31):
you want to know why, I'm more focused on domestic things.
We're in trouble here right here at home, without any
help from anywhere abroad. You can have and should have
different political parties with different ideas and different visions for
the country. All that stuff's fine, It's understandable. Creates debate,

(21:54):
it creates competition. All that stuff is fine. How do
you survive as a country when one political party hates
the country and flat out hates the troops by the way,
loose lips sing ships. You know, let's rewind again for history.

(22:15):
You know, being in a submarine in World War two
was basically a death sentence. Look, the Germans lost ninety
percent of their sub guys gone dead. America lost fifty.
American submarine service in World War two was so deadly
it was only volunteer. They wouldn't even assign people to
do it. You had to volunteer. Yeah, I'll go get
on that little death box. Okay. You want to know

(22:37):
why we lost a bunch of guys one time? Because
a congressman told a newspaper that the Japanese were setting
their depth charges too shallow. He told this to the media.
Of course, the media printed it, the Japanese read it adjusted.

(23:01):
American troops went to the bottom of the ocean. Sailors
went to the bottom of the ocean, loose slips, sink ships.
We have an entire political party so poisonously anti America
that we can't even inform them of war plans because
we know they'll run right to the media. Where does

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that leave us? Heywa, pause on that for a second.
Let's focus on this and think about this a little bit.
Because a lot of people are concerned right now. Because
Iran loves terrorism, they love sponsoring it and all these things.
A lot of people are concerned that Iran may respond
with some sort of a domestic terrorist attack. Let's think

(23:48):
about this.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Times in border protection, sources tell Fox News nearly half
of the Iranian nationals who crossed the border illegally during
the Biden administration were released into the US. Border patrols
did fifteen hundred four Iranian nationals at our southern border
from fiscal year twenty twenty one through twenty twenty four.
Seven hundred and twenty nine of them were released into

(24:10):
the US. Iranians are considered special interest aliens due to
national security concerns and are supposed to receive enhanced vetting
by DHS. Now officials are worried about an Iranian threat
to the homeland.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
How many of those people who Joe Biden and the
communists released it into the country. How many of them
were on the terrorists watch list? We don't know. The
Biden administration would never tell anybody. Democrats are so evil.
Modern democrats are so inherently evil, so committed to bringing

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in as many foreigners as they possibly can the second
they achieve power that Iran, if they choose to do so,
might be able to wound us in horrible, horrible ways.
Not mortal ways, I'm not saying that. But a bomb
at a school, a plane flying into a tower, as

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we've seen before, what does it look like? I don't know,
But all this was brought to you by the Democrat Party.
Where does that leave us? Now? Do you understand why
I am a little bit more focused on domestic things.
I'm much more concerned about the FBI than I am

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anything else than I am anything else going on in
the world. The Democrat Party half the country treason us evil. Oh,
speaking of which I know you may not care unless
you're in New York City or love New York City,
but this will apply to everybody. Did you hear what
the current leading candidate to be mayor of New York City.

(25:53):
Did you hear what he said? Talk about that in
a moment. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
wonderful Monday. Remember if you missed any part of the show,
you can download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify iTunes.
So I'm gonna play something. I'm not gonna spend a
lot of time on it, but I was just talking

(26:14):
about Democrats, treasonous subversives they are now and how insane
they are completely ideologically captured. Now They've run all the
same voices out and as a result, it's now just
about putting everything to the torch. What I'm about to
play you is not edited. Okay, you may or may

(26:38):
not care about New York City. Full disclosure for you
new listeners. While I understand, I grew up in Montana
in Ohio. I love New York City. I always have
to go up there for work or something. I just
adore the place. I always have it's fun, it's wild.
I like cities. I have a good time there, So
I love New York City. This guy's zoram, ma'am Donnie

(27:00):
who hasn't even been an American citizen for that long.
He is according to today's polls, the leading candidate in
New York City. Now, I want I want you to
remember who's been telling you that your blue area no
longer has any more guardrails, Now that all sanity has

(27:23):
been run out of the Democrat Party. There are no
more guardrails where there used to be where where? If
you were in a city, New York City, and some
Democrats city councilmen proposed something bonkers like hey, let's just
turn the subway into a homeless shelter. Even other Democrats
would have been all heay, oh, come on, slow down here.

(27:47):
All right, I get it, we're on the left, but
that's too far, that's insane. Those guys are gone. They
have all been run out of the party. There are
no more guardrails, there are no more breaks. If you
are in a Blue controlled area, the break lines have
been cut. It's all gas, no brakes, there's no more.

(28:07):
I have been warning you that if you can, a
lot of people can't. But if you can, you need
to get out, pack up and leave, move your family
somewhere else, because the blue areas of this country are
now in a death spiral, and I don't know if
they can pull themselves out that that sounds like a lot.

(28:29):
That's a lot, that's hyperbole. Surely, okay, allow me to
play you the leading candidate to take over as mayor
of America's most important city, and you can argue the
most important city on planet Earth.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
What we need to do is give support and funding
two institutions that are trained to deal with these kinds
of issues. As you said, if you're having an argument
with someone and there's a risk of it escalating, who
is better positioned to de escalate it someone who is
well known in the community, or someone who has been
trained specifically in de escalation, or a stranger who has

(29:05):
a gun. And we see so many situations where encounters
with police. The police arrive and all of a sudden,
the tension rises even astronomically to what it was prior.
You look at how policing is done in the suburbs
in wealthier wider America. When people make mistakes. The answer

(29:25):
is not to throw them in jail. The answer is
not to put them in a cage and throw away
the key. The answer is to try and find a
noncar stural solution in community service, something where you know
they learn from their mistakes, there's a sense of accountability
and growth, all these kinds of things which for many
people in this country, especially black people, are not offered

(29:47):
the same opportunity.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
He is proposing taking the cops out of the high
crime New York areas, filling up the subway with homeless people.
He has proposed not making this up. Government runs supermarkets.
He's an open naked Marxist, doesn't really hide that fact

(30:16):
at all, and he is not some kooki wing nut
who's currently polling at one percent. The betting markets have
him winning. I don't know whether he will win or
not in the end, but the betting markets have him winning.
So couple things. If you are in one of these areas,

(30:38):
it's not just New York City, get out. I know
it can be hard, it can be impossible. Maybe it
is impossible. Maybe you can't. Maybe you're taking care of
your mom, you can't leave your job. You got I
get it. If you can, there are no more guardrails
where you're at. Get out. That's one. Two. I am

(30:59):
very mixed emotionally about this, and I'm mixed for this reason.
I love New York City. As I said, I like
to take my wife up there when I have to
go up for work. AB and I go up, We
have a blast, go eat, have fun. Statue of liberty.
I don't want to watch New York City burn. It's

(31:20):
already gotten dirty enough, bad enough, smelly enough, homeless crime.
It's been noticeably on the downswing since since Bloomberg left.
To be honest with you, it's been down, down, down,
down down. This is the kind of thing that can
just finish you. Business leaders in New York City are
already saying, oh my gosh, please not this guy, Please,

(31:42):
not this guy. So I'm scared of it. And no
matter what, maybe you're a New York City hater or
a city hater, and I get that. It's easy to
point and say, ah, you stupid idiot democrats. But cities
matter too. Rural America matters. Cities matter, every part of
the matters. It matters to me. I don't want to

(32:02):
watch one of our great cities burn. One of the
cities I love burn. But I said, I was mixed emotionally.
And here's why. I am also my father's son, and
my father had a policy very similar to one that
I have with my boys. I will give you my
wisdom I will give you my guidance, and if you

(32:22):
ignore it and hurt yourself, I don't feel bad for you.
If I tell you not to touch the stove, do
you decide you're going to be a rebellious little snot
and touch the stove. Don't come to me with your
burn I don't care. I told you what to do.
Own your stupidity. I realize the Democrat Party has been

(32:43):
completely captured by insane monsters now, but if New Yorkers
go to the polls and choose this guy to run
their city, then you get what you get. Don't throw
a fit. You get what you voted for, or the

(33:05):
uh abridged version is you voted for this those four
lovely words. Don't do it in New York. Don't make
that mistake, or you get what you get. Don't throw
a fit. Let's make fun of crying Democrats and do
some emails next
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