Who has President Trump pardoned and why?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse
Kelly Show on a fantastic Tuesday, we'll talk a little
bit more about Democrats going insane. Here Wendy's is closing.
I'm gonna get to a bunch of emails. We also
have Ed Martin coming up this hour about a half
hour from now. If you've heard the story about Donald

(00:21):
Trump pardoning these alternate electors, or if you're listening to
the communists they call them fake electors, and you don't
understand what this whole thing is all about. Ed Martin,
I just found the story to be confusing for people.
So Ed Martin one of the truly good people in
this administration. He's going to join us about a half
hour from now and give us the skinny on all that.

(00:43):
But again, I want to come back to this, poll
after poll after poll after poll of Democrats in this
country show the most important thing to them by a
mile comfortably, is standing up to Donald Trump. It is
not anything else. It's not immigration, well they don't care
at all about that, of course. It's not the economy,

(01:05):
it's not inflation, it's not healthcare. The most important thing
is standing up to Donald Trump. This is how programmable
the Democrat base is. This is how programmable they are.
Ten years of anti Trump propaganda has turned the party

(01:28):
into this. What I don't know, and I don't think
anybody knows. What I don't know is how do Democrats
in this country live when Donald Trump is gone? How
do they react? How do they respond? And you can

(01:48):
say they'd be happy, they'll be happy, but these people
are not capable of happiness, or they wouldn't be Democrats.
They're not going to be happy. They have their boogeyman.
They have fought again their boogeyman as hard as humanly possible.
They demand their Democrat representatives fight him tooth and nail.

(02:09):
How do they move on? And yeah, I mean, we
had Jensaki come out and I believe still that she
was trying to lay the groundwork for what's next.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I think the little mentoring candidate, Jade Vance, wants to
be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's
going on in the mind of his wife, like are
you okay? Please bring blink four times, Yeah, we'll come
over here, We'll save you, And that he's willing to
do anything to get there, and that your whole iteration

(02:40):
you just outlined. I mean, he's scarier in certain ways,
he's smart in some ways, and he's young and ambitious
and ambitious.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I know that's the plan. I know that's why she
said it. The plan is to take all that Trump
focused anger and angst and kind of aim it at JDB.
I get that, But are they that programmable? Look, we're
about to watch it. You me, We're gonna sit back

(03:11):
and we're going to witness this. Are they that programmable
that you can make Donald Trump satan for ten years
and it's all you care about, It's all you want
from your politician. Stop Trump, Stop Trump, and then at
the drop of a hat you shift to someone else.

(03:31):
Are they that programmable? I don't know, but we're gonna
watch it together. I'm fascinated by the whole thing. Oracle
just saw an interview with doctor Oz after he treated
the guy who passed out in Trump's office, said we
should never watch someone pass out because they could be
badly injured when they fall. Well, no kidding, I never

(03:53):
met any marine who wouldn't try to catch the guy.
But admit it, secretly, you were giggling like a schoolgirl
when some do locked his knees and passed out information.
It was always one of my favorite things in the
Marine Corps. You when you get to the fleet. Now,
this happens in boot camp stuff like that too. You're
always in formation, You're always getting examined. Essentially, they're going

(04:17):
to come up and down examine your uniform, all these things.
But there is one part of being in the Marines
that is so brutal, brutally boring. I mean ceremonies. There's
always a ceremony. You're getting a new battalion commander, somebody's

(04:38):
retiring after thirty years, whatever it is. But what happens
during these ceremonies, well before the ceremony, you are told
which uniform you have to wear. Then your life is
essentially a living hell for days because you have to
comb through this uniform in ways that a civilian would

(04:59):
find imaginable. If they find a tiny piece of string
hanging out from anywhere, you will be destroyed for that.
You have to go over it, and then go over it,
and then go over it and iron it. And everything
has to be measured down to the millimeter. Nothing's allowed
to be off again. It's perfection. I'm not complaining about that,

(05:20):
but it does suck when you're doing it. They're looking
for perfection. All this is horrible. And then you have
to gather one day and they'll do this in the heat.
Remember it's some Marines. They don't care about your feelings, right,
that's the friggin' Marines. You'll have to gather information. Then
you will march somewhere. Usually it's a big field or
maybe even a parking lot. Then you will stand there

(05:45):
rigidly information for an hour, if not more. Keep in
mind you're not talking. You're not allowed to be on
your phone or something. We didn't even have cell phones
back then, but there's no phones. You're not allowed to
scratch your nose. If a bee lands on your face

(06:09):
and stings it, you will get in trouble if you
slap it away, serious trouble. You have to stand there
in my numbing boredom for a long time. That's the
bad news. The good news is there's always a guy.
There's always a guy who loses his train of thought.

(06:33):
Maybe his legs are tired from PT that morning, whatever,
but he locks his knees. And if you lock your knees,
you are going down. POW. I don't understand the physics
behind it. I don't understand why. I know, we have
a bunch of doctors and nurses who will probably email

(06:54):
in and say I did something to do with the
blood flirt. Whatever the reason is. You can not lock
your knees or you will pass out after a short
period of time. That was the best when you're in
the middle of this big ceremony information and you just
timb you see some dude going down, Oh my gosh,

(07:18):
and then you're with all your buddies and you have
to sit there and do the best you can to
stifle laughter. It was the only entertainment you ever had
at that time. And I missed those times. I did
what Chris I do. That's not because I'm a bad person, Chris.
It's not that it's the Marines. That's the way it is.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
And Border Patrol agents were alerted that the street gang
Latin Kings directed their membership to shoot on site federal
agents operating as part of Operation Midway Blitz.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I shoot on site and threat for federal law enforcement.
That's extremely concerning to us. We actually put that out
on an intelligence bulletin to all federal law enforcement, especially
Border Patrol.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So there's something else we have to discuss here. I'm
not going to spend a lot of time on it,
but there's something else to discuss. The Trump administration. I'm
not sure the bad guys are as afraid as they
should be. And I bring this up because you know,

(08:23):
Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization, they had a gigantic
meeting at UC Berkeley last night. It was ravaged by Antifa.
Ravaged by it. Look, the news tried the best they
could to cover it up.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Those have been mostly peaceful. There have been some tense moments.
Earlier this evening there was a scuffle that broke out
where two men started fighting. You see, Berkeley police had
to break up that interaction. Later, someone was throwing smoke
bombs and a car backfired, leading some of the people
who are protesting to run away.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Here's the problem. A lot of this was Antifa. I
was told that Antifa has been designated as a domestic
terrorist organization. Why are they on campus? Why are they rioting, protesting,

(09:21):
smoke bombs, hitting people? Shouldn't they be afraid? Shouldn't they
be underground? Changing their name? You gotta color your hair.
You're on the run. From the law. Would al Qaeda
be out there demonstrating on college campus. No. I would

(09:45):
like to think the answer to that question is no.
So what's going on if this is true? If I
want to stress that, if this is true about the
Latin Kings, it's a very famous street gang, very famous,
very powerful streak gang, obviously with a lot of cartel connections.
If this is true, why are they that bold? Shouldn't

(10:09):
that be something you're afraid to do. I'm a little
concerned that bad guys are not as afraid as they
should be of the Trump administration. All Right, we'll do
some more emails to talk about workers being required to
smile and so much more. It is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Reminding you you can email the show Jesse at Jesse

(10:32):
kellyshow dot com. We got Ed Martin coming up in
about ten minutes going to talk about these alternate electors.
This pardons Trump handed outs. There's a lot of what's
that word they love misinformation out there about the whole thing.
So we'll discuss that. This is not a big story,
but it's something I thought might be helpful to you.

(10:53):
The headline is target requires workers to smile at customers
in hopes of boosting sales. So let's talk. A smile
can get you really far in life. You know that,
And I understand. I understand that people can be miserable,

(11:15):
or that people are more introverted, and I understand the
laundry list of reasons people don't smile. But at your job,
whatever your job is, smile. Trust me, it makes a
big difference. And businesses in this country would be really, really,

(11:37):
really well served to train their employees in that way. Smile.
You will go back to a business where sometimes maybe
you didn't even get the best product or best service
because you found it enjoyable. I know sour puss is
a thing that can be really popular, especially with younger people.

(11:58):
It can definitely be pop. No, I just want to
scowl the whole time. You're holding yourself back, just wanting
you right now. Maybe that's why Wendy's is closing hundreds
of restaurants. Did you see this, Chris, Chris, where do
you stand on Wendy's? Can you people eat Wendy's what
you don't like it? Chris? Oh, I know you're going
to find this shocking, But Chris said it's overpriced. Chris

(12:20):
all fast food now is overpriced. I hate to say this,
but I hate to be back in my day, Jesse.
I really don't want to do that. But when I
was a kid, if we went through Hard Ease or
Jack in the Box or something like that, a value
meal was three bucks, three four bucks. That was it.
It was a burger, fries, and a drink three four bucks.

(12:41):
We went to where the heck did we go the
last time we did fast food?

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
We went to In and out Burger. We went to
In and out Burger for four of us. And I
don't I mean, I don't think In and out Burger
is more expensive than any other fast food restaurant. Really,
four of us forty eight dollars in and out Burger.
That is bunkers to me. But today this is exactly

(13:06):
why I was saying, the messaging on the economy has
to be better. This needs to be the messaging the
White House is going with, Hey, you haven't seen it yet,
prices are going to come down, Thank you for serving
and sacrifice. That was completely the wrong one, this one.
I think that that was creasy pressed their own book.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
I think that the tariffs helped consumers. They have brought
down the budget deficit. And if you Mit came out
with a study that said that of the Great inflation
was caused by the big deficit spending. So as you
bring down deficit spending, inflation will come down. And the

(13:47):
tariffs right now we take in substantial tariff income. Over time,
that will rebalance as the factories moved to the US
and that will become the corporate income or wage income.
And by bringing down the budget deficit, we are bringing
down inflation.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Jesse Communists are currently teamed up with Islamis to destroy
the Western world. Hypothetically, if they achieve their goal of destruction,
whose ideology wins in the end, will those who are
left be set into the gulag or be beheaded? He says,
his name is Rich. Well, you're not wrong. Islamis are

(14:26):
being imported in mass into the Western world as fast
as humanly possible. This is happening here in America, but
it's happening at a much more rapid pace in Europe.
And now you have countries like England, they're going to
have to have a civil war if they want to
save their country. That's what it looks like right now.
It looks like it's going to require an armed revolution.
Isn't that freaking horrible? That's just terrible. But in order

(14:49):
to save the place, they've brought in so many Islamis,
that's probably what it's going to have to take. As
far as who wins that in the end, the muzzle
was it going to win that in the end. Communists
are very very shortsighted with this, But most people, when
they do the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing,

(15:10):
most people are short sighted about that. They think they
say to themselves, well, we'll work it out in the end.
Who's going to work it out in the end, Well,
there's a lot more of them than there are of view.
It's going to be worked out, and you're not going
to be the one holding the power. It's not just
communists filling up the government in places like England. It's

(15:30):
a lot of Islamists filling up the government in places
like England. I mean, look, Mayor of New York City,
we've got him now, No, you don't know and I
don't know where exactly he stands on that islamis scale.
Is he just trying to check a diversity box. Could
be we know he's a communist, we know his father

(15:51):
is a communist, he admits all that is he trying
to thread that needle and be both. I don't know,
but look, hey, let's just make sure we don't get
conquered so we don't ever have to find out. I
think that would probably be better. Let's make sure these
people can't win elections so we don't ever have to
find out. All right, speaking of elections, maybe you remember,

(16:14):
maybe you don't, the controversy around electors, alternate electors, what
are electors? There was a controversy around it, and now
Donald Trump came out and he pardoned people like Mark Meadows.
There were like seventy people. I think the number was
exactly seventy seventy people. Trump essentially preemptively pardoned. Why what happened?

(16:37):
Did these people do anything wrong? Were they planning to
do anything wrong? What was going on there? Ed Martin
is going to join us in a couple of minutes
and he's going to discuss what the skinny on all
this is. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a
Tuesday and picked that song, Chris, Gosh, that's awesome. Joining
me now, my friend Ed Martin pardon attorney also, he's

(17:02):
all over this weaponization of government. All right, ed, first,
what are alternate electors? People don't even understand how this works.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Yeah, hey, Jesse, good to be with you. Thank you,
you know, Happy Veterans Day to you. I know the
real day is the birthday Marine Corps, so yesterday, but
a happy birthday and thank you for thank you for
nearly standing in the way of harm. But anyway, so
the look, this is important, right, I gotta tell you.

(17:32):
In nineteen sixty no less, you know, an icon of
truth and justice in America. John F. Kennedy had a
problem in Hawaii. In Hawaii, he was losing to Nixon,
and so he said, get me some alternate electors. And
three men, actually two men and one woman signed up
to be alternate electors. They signed paperwork and it said, well,

(17:55):
we have a constitution, we have electoral college. If there
turns out to be a need, we got these alternate
electors will take the place and represent Kennedy. And amazingly, Jesse,
actually there was a recount. It turns out they did
flip it and they became the electors for Hawaii. That's
how long ago the tradition, the use of what is
called the constitution and the rule of law has gone on,

(18:17):
and so in two thousand, excuse me, it's twenty twenty,
there were people who were asked, hey, we have had
the weirdest election in the history of America. There's a
whole bunch of stuff that's off base. Can we get
some people lined up in case we need alternate electors?
Just like JFK, the sainted JFK did let's do that, okay,
and people signed up. And then the Biden administration got

(18:40):
in office and they hunted down the people who were
alternate electors. They hunted them in every coner from here
to Arizona, from there to Michigan, and they just tried
to make their lives miserable. And they did a pretty
good job of it. And you know, some of the
names on this part, and we're gonna get to admit
it are famous, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell. But to them
a regular folks, Jesse like, they were part of the

(19:03):
of the process of saying, oh, the president might need
help sign up, and so the alternate electors are are
meant to be there in case the questions that are
being asked turn out to be real, then you have
someone that can step in and be be an electoral
college excuse me, be a representative of the electoral college
at Delegan.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Again, we're speaking with Ed Martin. Okay, and so explain
to people who are confused by this process, because the
idea of an elector at all, even for people who
are politically involved, they find that confusing. What is an elector?
Why would you need an alternate one? Why can't the
other ones just flip? What can you explain that?

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Okay? Yeah, yeah, So when you do a presidential election,
you actually are electing from your state people to go
to the electoral college. So depending on your state, Missouri
is where I'm most familiar, where I'm from. If it's
a winner take all, and so if Missouri goes to
Donald Trump by one vote over Kamala Harris, he gets
all the electors. And the electors I won't go into

(20:02):
it too much, but they generally are they're tagged to
the number of representatives you have US representatives and senators,
so I think Missouri has a total of maybe fifteen.
There's another way to do this, but there's an actual
electoral college. It's the way the designers of our constitution
set this up and meets. That group meets in December, right,

(20:22):
and it's been about six weeks of the election, any
presidential election. So you your state gets these electors, and
so Missouri would get that I think fifteen or sixteen,
and they would be going to a meeting where there
would be an electoral college and it will be dramatic
and all that, and you passed your votes. So alternate
electors are because you're saying, basically, wait, Missouri's up for grabs,

(20:43):
like Hawaii was up for grabs. And in the context
of twenty twenty, it feels a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
There were a number of states where it looked really dicey.
Georgia was one of them. Arizona was another where people
are saying, hey, we better get alternate electors because we
may get close to the electoral college. They find out
these elections were mismanaged where there was fraud or something,
and they change and so that's kind of that. That's
how this happens, and that's why it happens, and it's

(21:09):
totally normal. It's totally regular that this would happen. And
from there, the story takes a dark turn because Biden,
the a Biden administration targeted people.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
What justification did they use for that? And I know
it was bogus and garbage whatever it was, but they
had to have used some sort of justification. How did
they justify that?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Well, honestly, to be candid Jesse, when we look back
on it, it's a little bit like COVID, it's a
little bit like a few other things in our lives.
They just got everybody hysterical and they said, you can't
question the election. You can't question me. You're questioning I'm
an apple pie and gravity. You're not allowed to do that.
If you're doing that, you really must be terrible, you

(21:50):
must be rotten. In what we see more and more
in the other investigations we're doing into people like Jack Smith,
and now I'm talking about my other work work on
the Weaponization Working Group, is he had a plan to
range Jack Smith, he had a plan where he was
trying to use the conspiracy across the country to say, look,

(22:12):
Trump had this grand plan. He was using all these
people to have this brand plan to overthrow the country.
It was nonsense. What he really, Jack Smith really meant
was I'm going to use the DA in the District
attorney in Atlanta and in New York and the attorney
general in Arizona to try to get Trump, to try
to stop Trump. So it was really it's an amazing

(22:34):
thing to have come to light. And what I'm excited
about is when the President and I talked about this,
he said, yes, we should pardon these folks. They were
put out there to do the right thing and they
were targeted by Biden. Let's do that to try to
protect them and to promote them and to strengthen them.
And importantly, Jesse, shine a light on what the hell
happened in twenty twenty?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
What do we know about what happened in twenty twenty ed?
Because that is filthy.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Well, with another hat that I wear, there's a guy
named Kurt Olsen who's been in He's in the White
House as election integrity guy, and I'm in DJ working
election integrity, and we're in knee deep in that. In
the twenty twenty election, what we know is in seven
or eight states there was major, major, you know, discrepancies,

(23:24):
you know kind of you know, it just didn't work
the way it was supposed to. Then you look closer
and you see the mail in ballots were problematic. The
machines were problematic. There's all these things that we know.
And again, the way these alternate electors were targeted was
not just we disagree, we think there's a law, you know,
a law that should stop you. It was we're going

(23:44):
to silence you and crush you. We're not going to
let you speak about it. And again, it reminds me
of COVID, where you know, if you say, wait a second,
that doesn't seem like that makes sense, people would try
to shame you, and they shout you down and they'd
rush in. So that's what twenty twenty was what we
can see now. And look, we're not going to stop

(24:04):
you know. I tell people there's no statute of limitations
on the truth. There may be a statue of limitations
on some primes, although I do point out to people
that many crimes that if they're done in a conspiracy,
the statute of limitations gets a lot longer than people think.
But there's no statue of limitations on the truth. And
we've got to get to the bottom of it, and
we're doing it more and more. And this guy Kurt Olsen,

(24:25):
again I mentioned in myself and some others are really
digging into it, and you have to kind of go
piece by piece, Jess. So you have to find these
details and then pull the thread and work them out.
And we're doing it, and I think we're going to
find that the election in twenty twenty was not just
the most irregular in the history of this country, but
the most fraudulent thing we've ever seen, at least in America.

(24:46):
There may have been people doing elections in other parts
of the world that were even more fraudulent. We never
see anything like what happened in twenty twenty in America.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Let's just before I wrap up with you here, I
want to ask you, with your other hat, this weaponize
a do we believe we're actually going to get accountability.
I don't expect you to be a miracle worker at
and send everyone to prison the way I want them
to go. But is there going to be some level
of accountability for people who use their government job the

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way they did?

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, Jesse, I'll just say it like this. I get up.
You can hear it. I hope in my voice. I
get up every day I'm like running towards this fight.
My answer is yes, and my answer is yes, it's
going to be accountability. In the courts with prosecutions. It's
going to be accountability in the public arena, with what
I call name and shame, where these people are known

(25:38):
for all time, not just for now, but for all time.
There will be a record of who these people are.
But yes, and I see it all around me. You know,
there's lots of coverage. Some of it is bull some
of it is not. But if you've watched what you're
seeing and listen closely, and you know what you're listening for.
And I'm careful about it because some of this stuff
is ongoing and I hate that. I wish I could
tell you everything, but you know, things coming out of floor,

(26:00):
things coming out of other parts of the country. You know, Yes,
the answer is yes, Jesse. It's a hard heart slog
and I will concede this. The left and the powers
that be have have used time as one of the
great ways to beat us because they slow stuff down.
We're dealing with schedules, the Article three courts and all,

(26:22):
and it is a real drag on getting to justice.
But it's not a total block. And you know, Attorney
General Bondi has been fearless and encouraging me, like she
knows I'm a lunatic like a wild man. So and
she's she's keep going, keep going. So we're gonna get there, Jesse.
And we need people to do two things. One is
keep pushing us. Complain. I know you're good at this, Jesse.

(26:45):
Complain about the speed and keep after us. And two,
then help us continue to magnify and shine a light
on what's going on. Because these alternate electors that got pardoned, Jesse,
they they lived their life, they had to mortgage their
house to pay for lowyal, they had to do all
these Their life was made miserable. And sometimes the cost
of the beatdown is what is more problematic than the

(27:09):
actual beatdown, you know. And some of these people never
got convicted and they're just their lives have been destroyed.
And to be very frank, we need to raise the
cost of these evil people doing what they're doing. Raise
the costs for them in this and one of the
ways you do that is people paying attention to what
we're doing, encouraging us, and keep pushing us. So don't
lay off, keep beating on us, but understand what's going on.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Ed.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Appreciate you very much, sir, Come back soon. One of
the good ones, man, I'm telling you all right, we
have more. Next editing is the Jesse Kelly Show, A wonderful,
wonderful Tuesday. Remember, you can email us Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. If you miss any of the show,
you can download at iHeart, Spotify iTunes. Let's do some

(27:55):
emails because I'm way behind, Jesse. I'm sixty years old.
And when you said penal during Thursday show, I giggled
to the point I just about spewed fresca out of
my nose. I was talking about penal colonies. What's wrong
with you? At what age does the male sense of
humor reach peak maturity? I'm going with third or fourth grade. Look,

(28:20):
I don't think. I don't think I want to grow up.
And you know I have something to confess. And anyone
who's been around for a while will know this. Ladies
of any age, I should say, probably by the time
your twenties or thirties you pick up on this, But
some girls will pick up on this earlier. Your aggravation

(28:46):
with the stupid, immature, gross things that we find funny,
it makes it funnier for us, funnier for us, Bob, Bob,
she has the most sense knows in the world. She
can detect smells. It's like a bloodhound. And so the

(29:08):
boys have clearly picked up on this. You know what
they love to do fart as loud as possible, and
she'll yell at them. And then when they fart, she
will yell at them for farting. And then they'll start
walking towards her to get for her a hug, and
she'll yell at them to stay away. And the matter
she gets, the funnier they think it is. It does

(29:30):
not dissuade them at all. They find it to be
the most humorous thing. And then I'm laughing, and then
she turns and starts yelling at me and blaming me
for the way they are. It's one of the funniest
things ever. I'm sorry, I can't help myself, Jesse. Do
you think Republicans want to keep Obamacare and that's why
they're not talking? Look? Trump touched on this actually in

(29:51):
this interview with Laura Ingram.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
This is and what I want, and probably what you're
alluding to is the fact that I want instead of
going to the insurance companies, I want the money to
go to an account for people with the people by
their own health insurance.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
The insurance will be better, it'll cost less. Everybody's going
to be happy. They're going to feel like entrepreneurs are
actually able to go out and negotiate their own health
insurance and they can use it only for that reason.
That's only for that purpose. And if we did that,
that would be so exciting.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Obamacare was always designed to do what it's currently doing.
You realize that Obamacare was always a step the communists
wanted us to take towards government run healthcare. In fact,
you remember Barney Frank. Barney Frank was actually on camera, Chris,

(30:45):
there's no way you're going to find this video, but
he's on camera. It's audio that's out there where he
said it can lead to single payer, will or it
will lead to single payer. This is way back when
they were getting Obamacare rammed through. The entire idea behind
the communist Obama and his stupid health care thing was
to drive the costs of health care, of health insurance

(31:09):
up so high that what happens people demand help, people make,
people can't make it, They can't afford health insurance, and
so people will look to the government. After the government
ruins something, which they're doing with the health care industry
health insurance. Once the government steps in, regulates it, taxes it,

(31:30):
passes some ridiculous law about it, government will of course
ruin it, because government ruins everything. And then people who
don't understand this doesn't apply to you. But people who
don't understand will always look to the government to solve it.
For a solution, Hey, God, my health insurance is too expensive,
And what's the problem is the GOP traditionally they're not

(31:54):
great at counter messaging. They're almost in a way afraid
of communist messaging. Well, we can't tell people to go
find their own health insurance. We can't. We can't do that.
We can't do that. The GOP gets afraid when Democrats
are handing out taxpayer funded goodies because they feel like

(32:16):
they don't have any goodies to hand out. But we
don't need you to hand out taxpayer funded goodies. We
need you to get the government out of the freaking
way and out of our lives. You can't even describe
to younger people today how much different healthcare used to
be when I was a kid. You know, when you

(32:39):
sit down with your doctor now and he turns and
he faces the computer the whole time typing as he
asks you questions. You know that never ever, ever, ever,
ever happened to me even one time in my life.
He does that because of the government. Now it's all
data entry crap. That's why your family doctor doesn't spend

(33:01):
five seconds looking you in the eye when you go
sit in the doctor's office. He's essentially a data entry
specialist that went to college for eighty seven years. And
Democrats did that, and they did it on purpose. Obamacare
was never supposed to be the end. What they want
is the government to run the healthcare industry in the

(33:23):
United States of America. By passing Obamacare, there's a chance
they made that inevitable because now normal people can't afford it.
It's freaking awful.