What if the key to better mental health isn’t just therapy or medication—but community? Harvard researchers are studying what helps people truly flourish, and one of the strongest factors might surprise you. In our next episode, we explore Harvard’s Human Flourishing Program and why faith, belonging, and purpose matter for health and longevity. Plus, we highlight Rebecca McLaughlin’s research-based case that church involvement can—literally—save lives. Don’t miss this important conversation on human flourishing. Learn more about Harvard’s program at https://hfh.fas.harvard.edu/ and Rebecca McLaughlin’s book at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15W2lpQCseA. To contact the Board, call us at 419.281.3139.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome. You're listening to the Keeping Ashland Healthy Podcast, a
podcast production of the Mental Health and Recovery Board of
Ashland County, Ohio. Thanks for joining us and welcome. You know,
when we talk about mental health, we often talk about
what's wrong, labels like anxiety, depression, stress, burnout. Those conversations matter,
(00:26):
But today I want to ask a different question. What
does it actually mean to live well? Not just to survive,
not just to get through the day, but to truly
flourish as a human being. That question is being studied seriously,
not just by churches or philosophers, but by researchers at
(00:46):
none other than Harvard University, and what they're finding lines
up in interesting ways with something many people already sense
that community, purpose and faith matter deeply for our health
and our lives. Welcome. My name is David Ross, and
you're listening to the Keeping Ashland Healthy Podcast. On today's episode,
(01:10):
I'm going to draw heavily from two sources, doctor Tyler Vanderweel,
he's with a human Flourishing program at Harvard, and author
Rebecca McLaughlin, and she has recently released the book How
Church Could Literally Save Your Life. And obviously i'll put
(01:34):
both the references in the information in the program description.
I recommend both these resources and individuals to you. So
what is flourishing. Maybe it's not a term that you've
used or hurt a lot of So Harvard's Human Flourishing
Program uses a simple but powerful definition. They say, flourishing
(01:55):
is quote a state where all aspects of a p
since life are good, including the community and environment they
live in unquote. So, in other words, flourishing is about
the whole person. It's not just about feeling happy. It's
not just about money, it's not just about physical health.
(02:16):
It's about how all the pieces of life fit together.
And here's something else that was important. Flourishing isn't an
all or nothing proposition. Most of us are doing well
in some areas of life and maybe struggling in others.
You might have strong relationships but be stressed at work.
You might feel purposeful but be dealing with health challenges.
(02:38):
That's normal. So flourishing is something we move toward. It's
not something we perfect. Let me repeat that, because I
thought that was really important. Flourishing is something we move toward,
but it's not something we perfect. So six areas flourishing
(02:59):
are covered by this Human Flourishing program out of Harvard.
They talk about six key areas that tend to matter
across again, different cultures, different religions, different backgrounds. Okay, you
will briefly describe each of these six and I'm going
to try my best to use everyday language. First, happiness
and life satisfaction. So this is how content you feel
(03:22):
with your life overall. Second, physical and mental health, not
just the absence of illness. This is important, not just
the absence of illness, but having energy and stability. Third
key area meaning and purpose. I think we recently did
a podcast on this, feeling that your life matters and
(03:43):
that what you do is worthwhile. Fourth, character and values
things like honesty, self control, kindness, doing what's right even
when it's hard. Fifth, close relationships, having people who know you,
care about you and walk through life with you. And
six financial stability, not wealth necessarily, but enough security to
(04:07):
meet your basic needs and reduce constant stress. So these
are the six key areas. None of these alone make
a good life, but together they paint a picture of
what it means to flourish. So they point out that
flourishing is not a solo project. Surprise, surprise. One of
(04:28):
the most important insights from their research is that it
doesn't happen flourishing doesn't happen in isolation. We often talk
about self care as if everything depends on individual effort. Well,
Harvard's Reacher shows that the health of our communities is
part of our own well being is important, and self
care is I want you listeners to remember that the
(04:51):
health of our communities and others is also very important
for our own well being. So if your community is fractured,
will feel lonely, if there's no shared purpose or trust,
it becomes much harder for individuals within that community to thrive. So,
in other words, you can't fully flourish in a broken community.
(05:13):
And let me pause to point out this is why
the Board is so supportive of efforts like our Mayor Matt,
and our commissioners, all the various foundations that we have
in town, the United Way, our churches, our civic organizations,
because all of these institutions what they're trying to do
is build and support healthy, connected community. So while the
(05:38):
Board doesn't fund these things directly, we support them as
best we can because we know the stronger our community is,
the better able we are to prevent any kind of mental,
emotional or substance issues down the road. So again I
agree wholeheartedly with what the folks at Harvard have discovered.
So strong relationships, shared meaning, good leadership, in a sense
(06:02):
of belonging. All of these things matter, not just personally
but collectively. So loneliness is one of the biggest threats
to mental health today. We've done several podcasts on this,
and quite frankly, we'll do several more because I need
to spread the word that loneliness is one of the
biggest threats to mental health, which means isolation makes anxiety, depression,
(06:24):
despair worse. Okay, Rebecca McLaughlin, I just want to mention
her now, and we'll get into her book a little
bit more. She makes this point in a very interesting way.
She compares church to things we know are good for us,
like exercise. So we all know that exercise is good
for us, but we don't always feel like doing it.
(06:45):
It's hard to get out of the door, but when
we do it, we almost always feel better afterward. Church,
she says, is like that as well. It's not always convenience,
it's not always easy about over time, it strengthens us
in ways we often don't express. So again of what
we're going to talk about in today's episode is loneliness
(07:05):
being a threat. In the opposite of loneliness is connection.
All right, Four places that shape our lives the most,
So let's get into this. When researchers looked at what
most strongly shapes flourishing over time, four areas stood out
again and again. They're simple, but important and powerful. Not surprisingly,
(07:29):
family at the top of their list. The people who
raise us, support us and know us best. Education, not
just schooling, but learning how to think, grow, and understand
the world. There's a robust debate if you're in the
education space about this concept of teaching young people how
to think not just facts, but how to think about
(07:52):
those facts. Work. The third area, not just a paycheck,
contributing something meaningful. So important to have a job, to
have a career, but you want to have a job
and a career that you feel like you're contributing something
meaningful to the broader world. In community, and then, last
but not least, religious community. This last one often surprises people,
(08:16):
but participation in religious community shows up again and again.
Is a strong support for mental health. Meaning relationships, and
even yep, physical health. Now you might ask why, well,
because religious communities often combine regular connection, shared values, service
to others, moral guidance, and support during hard times, and
(08:40):
all of these things are actually powerful ingredients for a
good life. So that leads me into Rebecca's book, How
Church Could Literally Save Your Life. I just finished reading
this book. I'm going to quote several pool quotes from it.
It's not a long book, so i'd encourage you to
pick it up if you're at all interested. She wrote
(09:02):
this book, How Church Could Literally Save Your Life, and
her argument isn't theological, so don't be scared off by
the title. Her argument isn't theological, it's evidence base. It's
actually very much rooted into what the Harvard is doing
in the Flourishing Project. She points to the research showing
that people who are actively involved in church. Again, this
(09:23):
cuts across different denominations. People who are actively involved in
church tend to have and get this lower rates of depression,
lower risks of suicide, stronger social support, greater sense of purpose,
longer life expectancy. So let me read you a few
of these quotes that really stuck out to me. Page three,
(09:46):
study after study has shown that people who attend religious
services even once a week or more are happier, healthier,
and longer lived than those who don't page fourteen. Going
to church weekly at is one of the best protections
against depression, sadness, suicidal ideation anyone has found. Right. In
(10:09):
other words, if you aren't currently a church goer and
you start attending weekly, you actually reduce your chances of
developing depression by a third, according to the research she
looked at page seventeen, any honest suicide prevention campaign ought
to include a recommendation to try attending religious services. So again,
(10:32):
as you know, Audience Mental Health and Recovery Board in
Nashon County, we have a robust suicide prevention coalition and
we've done many trainings over the years to thousands of
folks here. So I have not formally included anything about this.
So I will try to confirm what the author Rebecca
(10:52):
is saying and likely include that as another solution to
our approach to reducing suicides in the count Again, she
does point out this doesn't mean church magically fixes everything,
and it doesn't mean religious people don't struggle, but it
does show that regular embodied community matters. Notice that word
(11:16):
embodied as opposed to virtual. Right, So another quote here
on twenty two I thought you all would be interested,
and it struck me. She talks about how therapy and
sometimes medications they don't provide true community and purpose we
all need. Okay, So again she talks about they might
(11:38):
have a role, but they're not the crux or the core.
It's humans, it's connection, it's you know how she describes church,
It's not an event, but it's family. Because she goes
on to say, it's not perfect family, it's not painless family,
but it's a real family. And if you go to
church at all, either currently or in past, you understand
(12:01):
that it's very common when you're in church that you
help each other out. You show up when somebody might
be sick, that you know, you might bring meals. And
we joke a lot in some of the previous churches
I've attended about the cast role carousel. Right, So all
kinds of castroles show up when somebody is under the
(12:21):
weather or recovering. You help each other out by driving
each other to appointments, particularly for folks that have transportation challenges.
Sometimes you just sit with each other in grief, and
then you also celebrate together and joy. So all of
this this kind of community. It takes effort, but it
also involves disappointment sometimes and friction. And she's real honest
(12:43):
about this in the book. But if you truly invest
in church, you will get hurt at some point, which
I thought was interesting. But that doesn't mean church failed.
It just means it's human. Because any relationship you have,
whether that's church or not church, be times when there's
going to be hurt. And that's very similar to family.
(13:04):
So she did also point to some of the research
that set a growing number of younger people, especially Generation Z,
are rediscovering church, not because it's trendy, but because they're
realizing how lonely life is without that deep community connection.
As she puts it, many were raised with no church
and are now saying this is an organ So I thought,
(13:27):
you know, what striking to me is how closely her
conclusions light up with Harvard's data. Again, the two basically
are talking in different voices and they're coming from different
starting points, but they're both moving in the same direction
with the research and the conclusions they're drawing. So a
word about suffering in hard times. They both address this one.
(13:52):
Concerned people often raises this, what about people who are suffering?
Does the idea of flourishing ignore real pain? The simple
answer is no. Flourishing doesn't mean life is easy. People
can face serious illness, loss, hardship and still have meaning, connection,
and dignity. In fact, some communities facing the greatest challenges
(14:15):
often show strong bonds, purpose, and resilience. Flourishing doesn't deny suffering.
It helps us see what still sustains life even in
the middle of it. It helps us see what still
sustains life even in the middle of it. And I'll
just say here, for my Christian brothers and sisters out there,
(14:38):
this is a direct high ind with what most Christian
faiths teach, which is that it's often says, my life
never got complicated until I became a Christian. But Jesus
doesn't guarantee or offer a pain free life, quite the opposite.
But what he does promise is to be with us
in and through the difficult and the pain. So very
(15:01):
similar these two concepts of Rebecca's and in the Harvard
Flourishing study on this point, Flourishing doesn't deny suffering. All right,
So let me close by saying, you know, a few
takeaways from both these resources, and again I'll put them
both in the episode description. Mental health matters, treatment matters,
(15:26):
support matters. But people now hear me. Now, people are
much more than symptoms. If you've been listening to the
podcast or coming to any of the Board events for
any amount of time, you know we've been preaching, dare
I say, preaching saying this for many, many years. We
are meaning seeking relationship shaped, purpose driven beings. All three
(15:51):
of those are important. We are meaning seeking relationship shaped,
purpose driven beings. It's why the Board has as long
as I've been here, and that's going on twenty two
years now, we have avoided simplistic definitions or conceptualizations of
mental emotional suffering. And I'm glad to say more and
(16:12):
more research has supported that view. Harvard's research shows that
flourishing shows that flourishing grows where people belong are known,
share meaning, and show up for one another. All right,
Flourishing grows where people belong are known, share meaning, and
(16:33):
show up for one another. Think about that. That can
happen in a bunch of different contexts, but each of
those are important. And Rebecca's work I think, just puts
flesh on that data when she talks about the church.
It doesn't replace professional care for folks that are struggling,
but it does and can strength and lives in ways
nothing else quite does. And in a lonely world, let's
(16:55):
be honest, that's something worth paying attention to. That's not
just faith language. That's what the data says. So uh,
it's an invitation. It's an invitation to think bigger about
what really matters and what really what it takes and
what it means to live well. So I hope the
(17:17):
Flourishing Project out of Harvard and Rebecca's book you found useful.
I wanted to get this podcast in before we start
the new year and as we think about the year
that was. So thank you once again for another year
of the Keeping National Healthy Podcast. This will probably be
my last podcast of the calendar year or so Merry
(17:38):
Christmas and please everyone have a happy and safe new year.
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the Mental Health and Recovery Board of Ashland County, Ohio.
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(17:58):
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keeping Ashland healthy
Welcome. You're listening to the Keeping Ashland Healthy Podcast, a
podcast production of the Mental Health and Recovery Board of
Ashland County, Ohio. Thanks for joining us and welcome. You know,
when we talk about mental health, we often talk about
what's wrong, labels like anxiety, depression, stress, burnout. Those conversations matter,
(00:26):
But today I want to ask a different question. What
does it actually mean to live well? Not just to survive,
not just to get through the day, but to truly
flourish as a human being. That question is being studied seriously,
not just by churches or philosophers, but by researchers at
(00:46):
none other than Harvard University, and what they're finding lines
up in interesting ways with something many people already sense
that community, purpose and faith matter deeply for our health
and our lives. Welcome. My name is David Ross, and
you're listening to the Keeping Ashland Healthy Podcast. On today's episode,
(01:10):
I'm going to draw heavily from two sources, doctor Tyler Vanderweel,
he's with a human Flourishing program at Harvard, and author
Rebecca McLaughlin, and she has recently released the book How
Church Could Literally Save Your Life. And obviously i'll put
(01:34):
both the references in the information in the program description.
I recommend both these resources and individuals to you. So
what is flourishing. Maybe it's not a term that you've
used or hurt a lot of So Harvard's Human Flourishing
Program uses a simple but powerful definition. They say, flourishing
(01:55):
is quote a state where all aspects of a p
since life are good, including the community and environment they
live in unquote. So, in other words, flourishing is about
the whole person. It's not just about feeling happy. It's
not just about money, it's not just about physical health.
(02:16):
It's about how all the pieces of life fit together.
And here's something else that was important. Flourishing isn't an
all or nothing proposition. Most of us are doing well
in some areas of life and maybe struggling in others.
You might have strong relationships but be stressed at work.
You might feel purposeful but be dealing with health challenges.
(02:38):
That's normal. So flourishing is something we move toward. It's
not something we perfect. Let me repeat that, because I
thought that was really important. Flourishing is something we move toward,
but it's not something we perfect. So six areas flourishing
(02:59):
are covered by this Human Flourishing program out of Harvard.
They talk about six key areas that tend to matter
across again, different cultures, different religions, different backgrounds. Okay, you
will briefly describe each of these six and I'm going
to try my best to use everyday language. First, happiness
and life satisfaction. So this is how content you feel
(03:22):
with your life overall. Second, physical and mental health, not
just the absence of illness. This is important, not just
the absence of illness, but having energy and stability. Third
key area meaning and purpose. I think we recently did
a podcast on this, feeling that your life matters and
(03:43):
that what you do is worthwhile. Fourth, character and values
things like honesty, self control, kindness, doing what's right even
when it's hard. Fifth, close relationships, having people who know you,
care about you and walk through life with you. And
six financial stability, not wealth necessarily, but enough security to
(04:07):
meet your basic needs and reduce constant stress. So these
are the six key areas. None of these alone make
a good life, but together they paint a picture of
what it means to flourish. So they point out that
flourishing is not a solo project. Surprise, surprise. One of
(04:28):
the most important insights from their research is that it
doesn't happen flourishing doesn't happen in isolation. We often talk
about self care as if everything depends on individual effort. Well,
Harvard's Reacher shows that the health of our communities is
part of our own well being is important, and self
care is I want you listeners to remember that the
(04:51):
health of our communities and others is also very important
for our own well being. So if your community is fractured,
will feel lonely, if there's no shared purpose or trust,
it becomes much harder for individuals within that community to thrive. So,
in other words, you can't fully flourish in a broken community.
(05:13):
And let me pause to point out this is why
the Board is so supportive of efforts like our Mayor Matt,
and our commissioners, all the various foundations that we have
in town, the United Way, our churches, our civic organizations,
because all of these institutions what they're trying to do
is build and support healthy, connected community. So while the
(05:38):
Board doesn't fund these things directly, we support them as
best we can because we know the stronger our community is,
the better able we are to prevent any kind of mental,
emotional or substance issues down the road. So again I
agree wholeheartedly with what the folks at Harvard have discovered.
So strong relationships, shared meaning, good leadership, in a sense
(06:02):
of belonging. All of these things matter, not just personally
but collectively. So loneliness is one of the biggest threats
to mental health today. We've done several podcasts on this,
and quite frankly, we'll do several more because I need
to spread the word that loneliness is one of the
biggest threats to mental health, which means isolation makes anxiety, depression,
(06:24):
despair worse. Okay, Rebecca McLaughlin, I just want to mention
her now, and we'll get into her book a little
bit more. She makes this point in a very interesting way.
She compares church to things we know are good for us,
like exercise. So we all know that exercise is good
for us, but we don't always feel like doing it.
(06:45):
It's hard to get out of the door, but when
we do it, we almost always feel better afterward. Church,
she says, is like that as well. It's not always convenience,
it's not always easy about over time, it strengthens us
in ways we often don't express. So again of what
we're going to talk about in today's episode is loneliness
(07:05):
being a threat. In the opposite of loneliness is connection.
All right, Four places that shape our lives the most,
So let's get into this. When researchers looked at what
most strongly shapes flourishing over time, four areas stood out
again and again. They're simple, but important and powerful. Not surprisingly,
(07:29):
family at the top of their list. The people who
raise us, support us and know us best. Education, not
just schooling, but learning how to think, grow, and understand
the world. There's a robust debate if you're in the
education space about this concept of teaching young people how
to think not just facts, but how to think about
(07:52):
those facts. Work. The third area, not just a paycheck,
contributing something meaningful. So important to have a job, to
have a career, but you want to have a job
and a career that you feel like you're contributing something
meaningful to the broader world. In community, and then, last
but not least, religious community. This last one often surprises people,
(08:16):
but participation in religious community shows up again and again.
Is a strong support for mental health. Meaning relationships, and
even yep, physical health. Now you might ask why, well,
because religious communities often combine regular connection, shared values, service
to others, moral guidance, and support during hard times, and
(08:40):
all of these things are actually powerful ingredients for a
good life. So that leads me into Rebecca's book, How
Church Could Literally Save Your Life. I just finished reading
this book. I'm going to quote several pool quotes from it.
It's not a long book, so i'd encourage you to
pick it up if you're at all interested. She wrote
(09:02):
this book, How Church Could Literally Save Your Life, and
her argument isn't theological, so don't be scared off by
the title. Her argument isn't theological, it's evidence base. It's
actually very much rooted into what the Harvard is doing
in the Flourishing Project. She points to the research showing
that people who are actively involved in church. Again, this
(09:23):
cuts across different denominations. People who are actively involved in
church tend to have and get this lower rates of depression,
lower risks of suicide, stronger social support, greater sense of purpose,
longer life expectancy. So let me read you a few
of these quotes that really stuck out to me. Page three,
(09:46):
study after study has shown that people who attend religious
services even once a week or more are happier, healthier,
and longer lived than those who don't page fourteen. Going
to church weekly at is one of the best protections
against depression, sadness, suicidal ideation anyone has found. Right. In
(10:09):
other words, if you aren't currently a church goer and
you start attending weekly, you actually reduce your chances of
developing depression by a third, according to the research she
looked at page seventeen, any honest suicide prevention campaign ought
to include a recommendation to try attending religious services. So again,
(10:32):
as you know, Audience Mental Health and Recovery Board in
Nashon County, we have a robust suicide prevention coalition and
we've done many trainings over the years to thousands of
folks here. So I have not formally included anything about this.
So I will try to confirm what the author Rebecca
(10:52):
is saying and likely include that as another solution to
our approach to reducing suicides in the count Again, she
does point out this doesn't mean church magically fixes everything,
and it doesn't mean religious people don't struggle, but it
does show that regular embodied community matters. Notice that word
(11:16):
embodied as opposed to virtual. Right, So another quote here
on twenty two I thought you all would be interested,
and it struck me. She talks about how therapy and
sometimes medications they don't provide true community and purpose we
all need. Okay, So again she talks about they might
(11:38):
have a role, but they're not the crux or the core.
It's humans, it's connection, it's you know how she describes church,
It's not an event, but it's family. Because she goes
on to say, it's not perfect family, it's not painless family,
but it's a real family. And if you go to
church at all, either currently or in past, you understand
(12:01):
that it's very common when you're in church that you
help each other out. You show up when somebody might
be sick, that you know, you might bring meals. And
we joke a lot in some of the previous churches
I've attended about the cast role carousel. Right, So all
kinds of castroles show up when somebody is under the
(12:21):
weather or recovering. You help each other out by driving
each other to appointments, particularly for folks that have transportation challenges.
Sometimes you just sit with each other in grief, and
then you also celebrate together and joy. So all of
this this kind of community. It takes effort, but it
also involves disappointment sometimes and friction. And she's real honest
(12:43):
about this in the book. But if you truly invest
in church, you will get hurt at some point, which
I thought was interesting. But that doesn't mean church failed.
It just means it's human. Because any relationship you have,
whether that's church or not church, be times when there's
going to be hurt. And that's very similar to family.
(13:04):
So she did also point to some of the research
that set a growing number of younger people, especially Generation Z,
are rediscovering church, not because it's trendy, but because they're
realizing how lonely life is without that deep community connection.
As she puts it, many were raised with no church
and are now saying this is an organ So I thought,
(13:27):
you know, what striking to me is how closely her
conclusions light up with Harvard's data. Again, the two basically
are talking in different voices and they're coming from different
starting points, but they're both moving in the same direction
with the research and the conclusions they're drawing. So a
word about suffering in hard times. They both address this one.
(13:52):
Concerned people often raises this, what about people who are suffering?
Does the idea of flourishing ignore real pain? The simple
answer is no. Flourishing doesn't mean life is easy. People
can face serious illness, loss, hardship and still have meaning, connection,
and dignity. In fact, some communities facing the greatest challenges
(14:15):
often show strong bonds, purpose, and resilience. Flourishing doesn't deny suffering.
It helps us see what still sustains life even in
the middle of it. It helps us see what still
sustains life even in the middle of it. And I'll
just say here, for my Christian brothers and sisters out there,
(14:38):
this is a direct high ind with what most Christian
faiths teach, which is that it's often says, my life
never got complicated until I became a Christian. But Jesus
doesn't guarantee or offer a pain free life, quite the opposite.
But what he does promise is to be with us
in and through the difficult and the pain. So very
(15:01):
similar these two concepts of Rebecca's and in the Harvard
Flourishing study on this point, Flourishing doesn't deny suffering. All right,
So let me close by saying, you know, a few
takeaways from both these resources, and again I'll put them
both in the episode description. Mental health matters, treatment matters,
(15:26):
support matters. But people now hear me. Now, people are
much more than symptoms. If you've been listening to the
podcast or coming to any of the Board events for
any amount of time, you know we've been preaching, dare
I say, preaching saying this for many, many years. We
are meaning seeking relationship shaped, purpose driven beings. All three
(15:51):
of those are important. We are meaning seeking relationship shaped,
purpose driven beings. It's why the Board has as long
as I've been here, and that's going on twenty two
years now, we have avoided simplistic definitions or conceptualizations of
mental emotional suffering. And I'm glad to say more and
(16:12):
more research has supported that view. Harvard's research shows that
flourishing shows that flourishing grows where people belong are known,
share meaning, and show up for one another. All right,
Flourishing grows where people belong are known, share meaning, and
(16:33):
show up for one another. Think about that. That can
happen in a bunch of different contexts, but each of
those are important. And Rebecca's work I think, just puts
flesh on that data when she talks about the church.
It doesn't replace professional care for folks that are struggling,
but it does and can strength and lives in ways
nothing else quite does. And in a lonely world, let's
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be honest, that's something worth paying attention to. That's not
just faith language. That's what the data says. So uh,
it's an invitation. It's an invitation to think bigger about
what really matters and what really what it takes and
what it means to live well. So I hope the
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Flourishing Project out of Harvard and Rebecca's book you found useful.
I wanted to get this podcast in before we start
the new year and as we think about the year
that was. So thank you once again for another year
of the Keeping National Healthy Podcast. This will probably be
my last podcast of the calendar year or so Merry
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Christmas and please everyone have a happy and safe new year.
Thank you for listening to another episode of the Keeping
National and Healthy podcast. The podcast is a production of
the Mental Health and Recovery Board of Ashland County, Ohio.
You can reach the board by calling four one nine
two eight one, three one three nine. Please remember that
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the Board funds a local twenty four seven crisis line
through Applese Community Mental Health Center. It can be reached
by calling four one nine two eight nine sixty one
one one. That's four one nine two eight nine sixty
one one one. Until next time, Please join us in
keeping Ashland healthy
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