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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There's a new space for me. I don't never wear something.
I just happened to have one pair.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, this is what we're talking about. What now you certified?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know what I'm saying, give y'all. Some ship said
you gotta do this about to give you all?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Right?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know it right, but we're here for it.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
How comfortable you feel like? Man? Like I'm invisible right here?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
He said, I'm invisible.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Man, I don't even see mek Man. That's when you flow,
when you when you feel like how he feeling right now?
He just would be like, yeah, I just man, I'm
so you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Saying, certain fast, certain faster, certain fact, certain fast, certain faster, certain.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Certain fast.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Certain it's a green summer. Yeah, we built differently. He
ain't watch them the games like I'm watching them again.
Come outside, we're a live this when you stop the
production and we go back and we want.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Y'all like the teams that they picked last night, I
mean I do for different reasons, for different reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Actually, I actually liked all the teams. Bro. I thought
they did a good job of like, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
To see how it's gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
We had to throw some creativity in this bit because
it's been terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I wanted to get your take on like the teams,
because I thought the teams were like evenly, you know,
put together and stuff. But you know, having a team
where you got called Anthony Towns, Jokic and Winby on
the same team, I think winn't be a three anyway,
if I'm being.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Honest, I mean, it's ticket. We're in a copycat league,
you know what I mean? And I wonder for if
we could be possibly fading or not fading, but fading
out of a ton of threes and moving back into
more basketball. I mean, I don't know for there. I mean,
that's just the first thing that came to my mind.
Blaming on the weed, not my heart. But you list
all three of those big guys, and all have three

(01:58):
level scoring ability, but not necessarily both three point shooters,
so outside of cat. But anyway, man, it's interesting we
were talking off camera about even they had to shake
it up somehow. Yeah, All Star has been I mean
it was funny. I saw All Star gaming. You guys,
was it one two? You and Wabe was on the
same team, Like you guys are I don't watch what
you guys, I just caught at the end. Maybe Washington,

(02:20):
you guys are going to add it to the final
whistle like it was a real life, shit was on
the line type environment and that's, you know, that's what
we grew up in and for what it's turned into.
It's to me, it's it's a slap in the face
to you guys and everyone who played in it before,
but also to the fans man like it's it's it's
it's nasty work. So maybe this will bring some life back.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Let me be honest though, a couple of things. When
I think about the word growth, bro, we should be
able to look at each generation of All Star games
and guess what it's supposed to look different each time
we watched the seventies, it's supposed to look differ from
the eighties, nineties, two thousand to tens, all that shit, right,
So this is to me, this is the growth of

(03:02):
the All Star Game. Got to keep it interesting. It
shouldn't look like it's forty years thirty. It shouldn't. It
should look like today. That's why I'm full on using
today's artists. I'm today, I'm four using today's songs. You
know what, I'm saying, Lord, I know what was eighties.
I love Stephanie Mills. Bro, that's not the same. You
feel what I'm saying, Bro, The energy different. I'm saying

(03:24):
a whole day so in that this is my definition
of growth and there too, it's got to be. Uh,
it's got to be for the fans. We're not if
we're not doing all this for fan appreciation, frant interaction,
We're not doing that, bro. That's that's what this is for.
So on the in the contrary, why's what happens when

(03:44):
one of these motherfuckers ain't an All Star? You know
what I'm saying. Ain't think Trey Yonna want to be
up here. You don't think Labella want to be upare?
So I think it needs to be understood of what
it means to be an All Star. And you know what,
everybody's not one, right and that and that's what don't
nobody want to hear? Yeah. So, so we're in a
new lens. Yeah, I keep talking about this new leans, bro,

(04:05):
And when I look at all this shit like this,
this is the new lens to me.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I get that. Land And by the way, I
wasn't an All Star. I just know the game pretty well.
But uh, you know, I'm all for again growth of
the game and new strategies and new ways. But to
me that the one constant has to be competitiveness. You know,
because we remember coming up, like you remember when we
had the pickup games of UCLA. If we're not gonna
play hard the last game, let's just stop because someone's
gonna get hurt, right, you know what I mean? So

(04:30):
to me, they're not. The non negotiable has to be
go out there and compete. Man, Like you said, there's
so many other dudes that want to be in that position.
You know, some deserve more and they're not. So I mean,
go out there and compete for just just for the
growth of the game.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Listen, before we start, I gotta do this. This wasn't
even playing but but this is my heart. But yesterday
Nate brought all the smoke box in here. Man, I
want to say congratulations, Nah, real shit, Bo appreciate you.
I don't. I don't only fuck with too many people,
you know, notice, And I'm not motivated off a lot

(05:04):
of people. I try to be very different our style
how we do things in Certified Bro. So motivated off
for you and stack bro y'all pushed the line, y'all
got the musk. I don't even know y'all had to
te kill out here. I know, y'all, I saw the
book and y'all doing the torch man. I just want
to get your big up there. Look at everything else?
Come up straight up, bro, y'all doing y'all. Ship, y'all growing,

(05:26):
y'all ship, y'all got the fucking shot the andre Ward
the box and ship y'all doing.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I had to ask this question because I got you here, bro,
what's the vision? Are we looking at the vision? What's
the buses? Because y'all, y'all really like a little ABC
right now. I don't like a little CBS, you feel me?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I think the vision has just continued to to elevate,
continue to learn. I mean, you know, we just partner
with you on some more stuff, you know what I mean?
So to me, I think we've always been the people
that have been the talent that they talk about. Now
we're behind. Now we're both you know what I mean?
And I feel like we you know, they open the
door for us, so then it's time for us to
kick it in and strategically bringing the right people. You know.
We've been working together now for you know, a handful

(06:03):
of years and it's been dope. And to get to
know you post career, you know, more than I actually
knew you during career, and just to see what you're
on and like you said, I admire your your outside
the box, your energy, all the shit. I remember we're
coming up on the anniversary with five year anniversary. We
interviewed you in Chicago. He was our first live interview, bro.
I mean, so we're coming up on that and from

(06:24):
that day I'm like, Yo, this dude has something special
outside of the court, you know what I mean. So
as you know, we've been able to mature that. But yeah,
to answer your question, man, I just think, you know,
there's a lot of athlete production companies that you know,
and no knock on them, but they really don't. They
throw they try to throw their name on shit like
we're really trying to build over here at all the
Smoke Productions, man. And it's an honor to be able

(06:46):
to work with people like you and Paul and Andre
Ward and Shady McCoy and all the other people in
the different space is Roy Jones. It's been a dope, dope,
dope journey, but were just getting started.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I see the vision, Bro, I see what you're putting down.
Y'all got a lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Going on, you know what I'm saying trying to man.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Look for those big sheets and those matches coming out, sir,
confidence pillows, candle you need. I'm damn asslow. I need
the all the smoke weed candle you hear a capri.
If y'all listening, cover your ears, listen, real ship, I
need you, feel me.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh Man, Look so I want to congratulations than you
real ship that I know how to give you. Hear
me keep saying everything else.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
We're here.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Let's get it too this ship. Bro Man, Listen, I
gotta say this boy did the did the trade? Put
a Joe in the lead. Man needs some of the
best game. The last man indeed answers hurt you come
back and give me a chip.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Bro Bro at twenty nine point triple.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Dog Man, I ain't gonna get into it, but he.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Just makes you frustrated because he's got it and and
from everything I've heard and he's probably heard, I don't
even know we're even going this direction. He just he
doesn't he doesn't pour it back into the game. But
then my question too is if he works hard off
the court, could he hurt hisself.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Something's not connecting them.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yes, nothing. But then at the end of the day,
I mean when we talk about pure talent, I mean
you can put them up there with any center that's
ever played this game.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I can't throw I can't put him into conversations. Bro.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh yeah, I'm saying talent wise, I'm talking I'm not
talking about I'm talking pre skilled.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm gonna say this too, Bro, for all of us,
I think we need to take two twenty and then
evaluate the kids or these players from there. I don't
want to I don't want to compare it because you
know what, keep it in that box. Well, I'm just saying,
you know, for me to compare to you, Bro, you
gotta be able to do the same things we did.
So when we talk about we're doing eighty two, were
talking about Man malone Doo eighty two, we're talking about
Shatgowing eighty we're talking about guys you came here and

(08:37):
played eighty two. Did it a certain way? Bro? That's
starting to change.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
It used to be a badger honor to play eighty two.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
It didn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, I'm hurt a and really practiced. Listen, bro
the second team really go out the first team like a.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Real game, price for two hours.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Every day and tape knee pads. Cut it out.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Listen, Ron Curry, James leave the game. Nas may be
the last one. All that is going.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
The Mohicans are out of here.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
The Moors are going. All those that that came before
and did it a certain way that's going.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So we have to talk about them. Posts that the
game has to be talked about. Respect that's in the pandemic.
Pandemic on.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
But I love how the trade and just how it
took over everything first off, and then how it joted
the lead shout to the league. Y'all y'all still just shit,
Hey man, it's gonna be some conduct, says, Oh my god,
that's kidding.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
They one of the big trades that we were anticipating
finally happened. Jimmy Butler lands in Golden State. He gets
the money that he was looking for to They signed
a two year extension around one hundred and twenty million bucks. Curiously,
your guys, thoughts of Butler finally going to a different team,
and apparently him and Steph like that.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You're like, but you like Butler going.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
But before I get to the game, I just want
to talk about him, and I think and and I
love Jimmy Butler. When he's on the court competing, I
think he's one of the greatest competitive this game has
has seen. But its antics ticket and you always know
the old additive like the outside dois can't be more
than the inside than the inside knowing, meaning what you're
doing on the court. And I just hope for his

(10:12):
sake that he comes out and gives playoff Jimmy from
here on out, because if we look back at his
track record, man, he's bullied and pouted and disrespected his
way out of several different situations. And we don't know
both sides. We don't know, so we don't know what
these organizations did for him to do this. But we
all we can see is kind of the way he's
acting in to me, the way he's let some of

(10:33):
his teammates down. So I say all that to say,
I think if Jimmy comes to compete and basketball is
number one, I think this is a solid pick up
for them. I'm not sure if this puts them over
the top, you know, I think it puts them in
the first round, second round. I'm not sure if this
is what's going to put them over the top. You know.
I just think at the end of the day, you know,

(10:53):
Steph is getting older, you know, although it's showing at times.
He had a slow star last night and he ended
up at what thirty seven forty? I mean, he's still great.
Draymond's getting you know, these guys are getting a little
they've they've been around for a long time, you know
what I mean. And Jimmy's what thirty five, So all
these guys are in their mid thirty and we know
it's a young man's league. So I expect this to

(11:13):
get them over the hump a lot. But as far
as just what does it if it comes down to talent,
does this move put them into championship contention? I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So the first thing that stood out to me about
this is that and those other situations that he went to,
I don't know if he had championship inspired people that
he respected like this situation. I don't know if Jimmy
was to act out in Philly with Joe LMB and
Max he say something would when he was in Minnesota,
did Cat and Wiggins have the the you know that

(11:44):
to go to him? Right? We know who is though,
listen to me, ain't none of that shit in it?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And then guess what, zero, This is how we do it. Yes,
this is how we do it, like I think he.
I think when Haslam was in Miami, he respected HASLM.
So I think some of that shit was kind of
nipped at the bud. And I think has them did
a great job of controlling that locker room and keeping
the locker room together. Right. I shout out to Donald's
for that, But also you gotta understand Donald's is also

(12:11):
putting down culture. This is how we do things in here, Bro.
He coming through a door where they not one a
certain way. And by the way, I think Wiggas is
gonna be unbelievable in this trade. And he's a better
than what people are giving him. And he's been playing
unbelievable this year. I think that he's came out of
lit the funk.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
He was in the funk on a lot of family
stuff off the court, you know, so that effect is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think he's having a son. I think he's so
you know what I'm saying. So I think Miami would
be a better fit for him too. I'm just saying this.
You know what I'm saying. I know the kid and
that in Toronto Miami have similar scenes. He like, you
know what I'm saying, So that that means something here.
I'm saying this to say that I think he's gonna
be great on that. Going back to the Jimmy shit, Bro,
they got a real they got real coach over here

(12:54):
in Golden State, and they got a real way that
they do things. And if Jimmy wants to actually change
this narrative on him, man, he should interject oh man,
if he interject this too. This because he is a
difference changer, Let's just go ahead and say it. When
he is focused on basketball, his implement in the game
is so viable.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And it doesn't have to be points. But even most
people's impact is number wise like his impact is. It
doesn't show up on the stat shee, but he has
a because you.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Don't see the second hand, you don't see the officer rebound,
you don't see the tip.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
He gets when he's out there.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
He gets his hands on so much bullshit and just
he's just everywhere. So when you we the dope ship
is that he's coming out of a light and we're
thinking that it's gonna be a better than positive light.
So we're going in positive to get that Jimmy. Yeah,
it's only when he's disgruntled. But then you got real
pieces in here that will pull you to the side
of which which I love, love it. And now I

(13:45):
think we're gonna see a better version of Jimmy at
some point. We gotta expect them more mature Jimmy, right.
I love to think that this system helps him. I
love the fact that you pointed that out. I don't
think it's gonna take them over the top though. I
actually think they don't surprise some people. Two, you don't
want to be in a seven game.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
You can't play games with that.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
They're scary.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You gotta put them over.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
They might not, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But you don't want to make like Michael Myers or
Freddy or Jason. You got to make sure they're because we.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Keep forgetting Steph Curry has an impact on the refs
and then too. Bro let me be honest, the pain
is too high for him to do what he do. Man,
that'sh It was cool when it was us and you
can slow it down, walk it up. Man. The pace
is one thirty one fifty one forty one fifth man
got but you know what, that's late, but we can't
practicing it. Come out and try to get one thirty.

(14:30):
Steph is the only montherfucker I see that's always moving.
And then when he's not moving, he's resting. Understand So
that start right there is gonna come to a halt
because that's a look.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, it has to be because if he's not scoring,
who's scoring? I think Jimmy's gonna have to be asked
to score more.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know, Jimmy's gonna.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Have to be aggressive. I think Jimmy's got to be
in that twenty two to twenty four point game range.
I think Steph is what career lows and field goal
percentage and I think what was the avent twenty two night?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Things around. It's all on him though, The focus is
all on him. Wait to commune and goes back. What
did Jimmy get? Are you right? You know what I'm
com I ain't even got back showed up.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I think what you said about that locker room. And
I said this years ago when DeMarcus Cousins got a chance,
because I got a chance to play with Boogie and
you know, and then there was always this knock on
him of this, this and that and whatever my point was,
I said this. I remember I think I was working
with ESPN at the time or something like that. But
the locker room and the culture is gonna you have

(15:23):
no choice but to follow a live you have to
fall in line. So any of that diva bullshit, I'm
not for the team. Drey Mind is not having that.
Steph is not having that. And that's the end of it.
So I think that's a great point where and another
to your point, this is a chance for Jimmy to
really pour all the way in because he can get
another deal off the way he the way everyone's eyes
are on him. And if he comes out and does

(15:45):
what we think he can do, he you know, he
got some nice money. He can get some more money
before he gets up out of here.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
And he thought Miami was dope and the best.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
They do it different out there.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
They love you. It's a different type of love when
Cali who.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
And when they love you in the Bay, that means
you're safe because it's nasty out there too.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
For another trade, uh at the deadline that was pretty
big was the Cleveland Cavaliers DeAndre Hunter.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
This was the steal of.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
The nineteen the game, leading the league and scoring off
the bench. Man, they got a wing they were looking for.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You're talking about a secret weapon dog, you know, like,
I don't think people know who DeAndre is, bro, because
he's been in Atlanta and he's for some reason, you know,
overshadowed or whatever, because you know, we trade. There's so
many dope ship right, and keeps it he keeps it
soak trade, he keeps it so cold, right.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Don't shout the ice man. Yes, sir, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
But man, when I saw this, when I saw this,
broke man.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Listen, this was the steal of the trade.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
This Listen. Cleveland Cavaliers won the trade. The Calves are
in the conversation. Yes, and it is a serious threat, bro,
if he could do any if he does what he
did in Atlanta, bring into the situation.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Twenty points five rebounds a game or nearly twenty points.
You got to play the athletic, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
And he a mean guy too. Though he ain't no
light pushover. He's a two way player, and Bro, when
you go to switch now, I think one of the
things Cleveland had problems with when it came to other Celtics. Obviously,
the poorsingers element makes you so when you go him
and Cornette and they go big, big man Prazians at
the free throw line is damned like drawl and b like,
it's it's you down there are at his mercy and

(17:26):
if you give him any room to get it off,
it's down there eight to ten he can hit those.
You feel me, now, Bro, ain't.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
What's six six ten?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah? But he a dog.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Indeed he shouted Winby, shitted Winby and tried to wipe
his ass like hey boy, listen, listen, man, listen to
keep Cleveland Cavaliers entered the conversation, Bro.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Where do you think that's starting five ranks against?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh no, they're Bro, that's the best. That's the best
start lineup in the league.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Talent wise, they're there. It's just you know, we know
at the end of the day, it comes down to experience,
you know what I mean. That's why I think you
still give And I'm not going off top, but you
give Denver a chance of whethery're sitting that four or
five because they have experience, you know, like I said,
you got to step on Stephen Golden State's neck because
they can suck around and get hot and run to
the Western Finals. So teams with experience I like. Okay, see,

(18:20):
I like Cleveland. I like a lot of these young
teams that are having at the top Memphis, But it
gets down to have been there and done that and
until you get over that that that hump, right, that's
a monster.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm it's so eager to see their first five team
games like that. Like, Bro, this Cleveland is back. Bro,
the vibrations is highest ship there. They think they can
win it. Bro, it ain't no, they know it ain't
no Boston up. Bro, They're Finney get they finna get
real disrespectful they should. They got confident. I'm seeing it, Bro.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
And they've been built the right way. I like that too.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And it's been slow progressively, right.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
It's been built the right way.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Shout at them, man, shout the man and shot the
spider them. Yeah, they got a real chance now, Bro.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Another team that that made a deal kind of at
the end of the deadline, was the Toronto Raptors. They
got Brandon Ingram, they traded Bruce Brown and Kelly and
a couple of picks. Ingram's on the final year of
his deal. You think they hold on to him past
this year.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, unless they could go out there and road.
Toronto is a dope, dope city. I just don't see. No,
I don't think where are they stacking the west? What
are they in the west? The excuse me? Where they
stack in the east? Bottom? Right?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, They've got Scotty bars. And you think
you know Brandon did diesel? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Right, they got Scottie bars? Quickly are j Barrett? Those are?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
So you got to start showing Matt.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's what I absolutely agree. But I mean, is Brandon
Ingram going to be the piece that or does he
want to go somewhere else where he could be? But
the thing you hear on Brandon ingret I mean tremendously.
I think he's like, you know, like a exactly baby KD.
But you hear about his mental you know, I think
the only question with him is his mental I mean,
his game is flawless. So does he go in there

(19:57):
and and be a vet? He's a vet now. You
know we've been watching Brandon Ingle for a long time
in the NBA, you know what I mean. Does he
go in there and bring veteran leadership or does he
go in there and finish out the season and try
to go somewhere else. I think that'll be interesting for him.
I have to wait to see. But I mean it's Toronto.
He's Toronto's to lose about.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
To say too, I've seen an interview where they was
sucking around. I think I think him, Gion and somebody
else would just I think CJ was just sitting there,
you know how they do the little shoulder content right,
And it was named your favorite Cities. Guess where his
favorite city?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Toronto.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So when you get that kind of you understand what I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Saying off the court. Toronto cracks too. CRUs Holy, I
want to go there, shout everybody else. That's a melting
pot out there. You're gonna love. That's the dope city.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm saying that To say that stuff like that, actually,
you know what I'm saying out there? Bro like es actually,
and I didn't know that, Yeah, cities like New York
where where the fans love.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
You, Bro, the city they love you, They will kill
for you. They will know that I didn't know that.
I mean, to me, that changes everything. I really just said,
I didn't know that was a city he really liked. Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's so so I'm pieces and then too, Scottie B.
He's tough, Dizzel, he's the left hand bro. They got
some pieces and you know what they do. They play hard.
When you play Toronto, you gotta beat TRONP.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
And their biggest solid too. Right, what's the big name.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just double double trade target to the race.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
All the keep it, but it race it out your minds.
I like, I like this move then ticket that's completely
chance because to me, like I said, I'm all I'm
hearing is I don't. I don't know Ingram, but I
hear about his mental So I think if he's going
into a situation he doesn't like, he's probably gonna be
but a situation that he put into the atmosphere that
he already enjoys. I think that could be a nice
young core. Obviously they're gonna have to add some pieces,

(21:42):
but I think that's to your point. Great start.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Listen. I think you playing with a guy like Scotty
Barnes and those pieces they got there will actually like
recharge them. So I'm looking for the shout that Ingram
Man been hurt Man. I hope this new opportunity brings
new life for you. I hope you take advantage of
Torone is a great city, Bro, you can dominate that
for you could be Canada. I say, events do it.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Moving west the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
They make a deal for bogdan Bogdanovich, they give up
Terrence Man and Bones Highland. The Hawks once again just
kind of you know, moving some of their guys.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
You're gonna help the Clippers, bro.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
And for some reason, I don't know what, Like Atlanta
has had a lot of talent over there. They got
the New the Young Boy, what's the light Sking Taylor,
the Changing. Yeah. But I'm just saying, for some reason
they have a lot of talent that you don't really
hear about. But but Bogdanovich is nice, great pick up
for the Clippers. I never I'm guessing Bone Highlands and
and and and Tyler just didn't see out of eye

(22:41):
because I think every time bones Hiland got on the court.
He made shit happen. He was a little radic, but
to me, I think he does a little bit more
good than bad. But for some reason him and Tyler
didn't see out of eye. So I'm happy he got
out of this situation. But you know, Terrence Man has
been solid for the Clippers for the last handful of years.
But I think the emergence of uh Norman Pale shout
out to the Bruins kind of made Man expendable. And

(23:01):
now you bring in you bring in Bogdanovich, who is
a bucket sixteen to nineteen points a game, plays hard.
I like it.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
He fits that whole Clipper script too. The Clippers got
players that you necessarily heard up, ain't hurt of, but
the solid players, you know what I'm saying, Like Telu's
a great coach, and then you tlu got is like
filling that line of the fifty to fifty. He's from
the old country, but he's adapt to the to the
to this.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
New, this new thing, right, he's relatable.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
But then when you see bones and how this new
point guard look, right, bones, is this new point guard
exhaust the ball? I would say more Steve Nash, where
you know how Steve Nash do the through the mission
under that keeping. You know T Lou's effishing. You know
he won'ts when I see Man come into how Man plays,
gets right to it. Whatever Bones may exhaust something, try

(23:50):
to get the match up, which now you know, when
you are making that transition into this new wave, in
this new style of play. I don't think t Lou
crossed all the way over. I think those effective players,
those players that come in or are effected for their
time in there. He's gonna trust in those, And I
don't think the bones wasn't showing that that was greater
than what Man was doing. I don't think that he

(24:11):
was gonna get it in front of him. So I'm
just glad he get another chance to go to Wells.
You know, it's all about your style, you know sometimes man,
it's all about your fit. Man. You're about to think
about Steph Curry. Oh, when he came in and played
under everybody, he had to play on the right. He
gets Steve Kirk, Steve Kerr understands that whole shoot that
bitch from right there and distance they speak the same language,

(24:33):
and then look out that flirs right. So I'm just saying, man, listen,
it's about the fit. So you know, shout the bones man.
He gets another chance to go somewhere and show his talents,
and uh, that's what's up man. So but yeah, I
actually thought that was a sleeper too. Was nice. He
was a big, huge pickup for them. I hope, I
hope they implement him right away. I want to see
how because he a bucket, he was a bucket in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
He can go. I'm telling you, Rod Polinka deserves some credit.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Get that members jacket, ony Man, take that members.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Jacket because he's taking a lot of heat for that
little jacket. Loosen up.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You needed a bigger jacket there, Rob, you're making big moves.
You need a bigger jacket.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
This is arguably the biggest trade in the NBA history.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Summer side jacket was too little for that situation. You went,
when you went and got the members on it, you
should have came in there with a big pelly pill.
Your neck looked like it was this big and it
was swallowing you.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
You know what I'm saying, You gotta animated version of
that man.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You gotta go get a pelly pill. Ain't nobody wearing
that ship. No more. Man, you had Luca in the middle. Bro,
you're supposed to Pelly Dug supposed to got on your
knee and took the picture like this, Rob, you're supposed
to Luca. Nigga, This is my lord.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
What does Luka do for Bron what man?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Look Broun just this brought Broun three years. You know
what Broun can do. This is what Broun wanted. They
need to do. Go ahead, big fella, go ahead. This
ship Luke about to do. It's about to the pact.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
He's been wanting to give the keys to somebody. I
think Broun wants to play how he played in the Olympics.
Let me be a Swiss army knif. Don't let me
have to have to have thirty every night and these
crazy triple doubles, like let me get these like seventeen,
twelve and eleven triple doubles, while Luca's going for forty
and get vanderb you get Vincent going, and you get
the Austin. He wants to be a Swiss army knif
at this point. And if Rob Polinka's put a team

(26:20):
around him where he can do that now and you
just named all the little pieces they have. Excuse me
that little pieces, all the pieces they have. Maybe Broun
can be Olympic Bron now and let Luca carry the tour.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Listen. I don't know if y'all noticed the last week
and a half with all this talk about Lucas team,
y'all seen Brian and lling Lord, the Nigga photy looking
like you.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Thought killing Lloyd Fody looking like.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Hold on, Luca, Okay, it's cool ya. Lucas team when
I give it to him, y'all, chill out, Bron Lord,
I'm watching no energy boy.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Just like Luca drive.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know how you come out the cryo? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Do you feel brand new? Like a That's that's how
Bro looked like he fresh out? Oh yo, Bro?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
But shooting the three he put from the logo last night.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Bro, y'all y'all man, And then I heard that I
thought they played the Roy Jones joint.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Y'all must have forgotten last fight.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Sh how much I love it.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I love this for the league. This is what the
fuck we want it. In October we had the way
he goddamn four months for this ship. The league is
going Bro clear train his ass man this is it going.
I want to see that. I want to see the
data on the league. I want to sit back with
Adam and just watch all these needles hitting. Yeah, Nigga

(27:40):
put it out. Yeah you said it was down. This up.
Let's see it. Let me see this ship, man. I
want to see the data to the league in the
last month.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think, you know, it's crazy to his ticket, you know,
switching subjects. You know, linear vision is down where they
say twenty eight thirty percent. But the NBA has never
been as big as it is on social media right
and this ship like this is the reason why where
we can steal headlines on the on Super Bowl week.
I mean, to me, it's like a big ass reality show.
It's year round drama, trade deadline, playoffs, championship, free agency,

(28:12):
summer league. Like, it's just it's it's constant information that
you know, the NBA is that don't believe the the
the some number like the NBA is booming right now.
They just got I think Adam silver has to If
you're Adam silverman, how do you figure out how to
get this the competitiveness of the game back.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Adam needs to Adam, Well, this me if I'm talking
to Adam, Yeah, talk to him. If I'm Adam, I
would tap in and collab with more culture because you
know what's missing the intimate stories of these, of these,
of these, of these, of these, I won't call them.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Kids, but of these players, no one knows their journey.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
No one knows their journey. But if you did, you
feel like, Okay, I've been follow LaMelo since he was
since he's a ball brother, But LaMelo not fucking group
from now. Shit, He's a whole drone man.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Don't That's why he was the number one boat getter
in the Crazy Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Bro, we still doing the same fucking jerseys. Why haven't
we tapped in with Supreme. We haven't went to fucking
gallery department. We haven't went to cut some guys whoever
doing whoever? Whoever? What's youall people to do? Y'all?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Ship legends legends?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Lord, you get to step inside this ship, bro, give
people in the experience. Man do to Jerseys now, I shit,
front road with the Supreme, joint from the Costa or
the Louis because you got a Louis relationship, right, This
is where the league is, Operators, I got it. Y'all
keep operating. Let the let the culture, let the smoke

(29:37):
guys come in and talk to the guys. Let's let's certify.
Come in here. Let let give go and holler at
one of these niggas. You feel me like, Bro, the
New Leans is talking and I'm really shedding light. Y'all
can have it. It's all good, good morning already.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Because Jay Brown got a shoe called seven forty one.
In order for us to even know what that is,
we gotta spread that message because they were not They
not right, So we're gonna support it, right, go in
check him out, and then he'd give us his narrative
on why he even did all that. Right, then we're
gonna wear the motherfucker. There's gonna come out on a
different versions. This is how this systems and the ecosystem

(30:13):
gotta go. Bro, we ain't on this right here, if
we ain't on collaboration and working together. Bro, I agree,
missed me with all that shit, and you miss with
all that argument to shit. Don't real up on me
talking about who better and on I don't want to
hear that shit. You want to work together and grow
some shit.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's what we can holler you know what. I think
colleges get stuck out. I think one particular my college.
You see, they get stuck on this instead of touching
and tapping back into culture and collabing with what is
going on right now. I think kids these days don't
care about history, with all due respect, they care about
what's present. And I think you made another great point.
We don't know these kids used to be able to
fall in love with you know, you were rare where

(30:45):
you went straight to high school, but they followed you
from an eighteen year old to a forty year old man.
But they used to be able to follow college players'
journeys and see them and grow them and beat They
were fans before they got to the game. And you
have a young ton of young kids that you don't
know where they came from, who they are. And there
are a lot of overseas kids too. So I think
that's a great point to kind of tap into the
content space, like really start telling these kids' stories so

(31:08):
that you know, people can really become fans of them.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Let me tell you something. All your college players out
here where your coach come in and got more energy
than you. Oh if I was you. If I was
the coach, I'll go get a whole new team. Oh
that's what you do, coach. Coach. Let me tell you something, Coach,
if any coach out there listening to me, if you
got a team full of motherfuckers that don't want to play,
get you a whole new team. Damn, because it's some

(31:32):
motherfuckers out here that want to play. Coach, you know
what I'm saying, Like like, Okay, the baby is over
the babysitting, Bro, I get it. You don't want him
to fall and hurt his knee, but guess what he
has to hurt his need to grow from that.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I got all kinds of scars.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'm saying, Bro, you gotta go through some shit, bro
to be able to grow into whatever you're gonna be. Bro.
The finished product is the finished product, and it ain't
never finished. Because every day you can learn something, but
all these players out here thinking they better, it ain't
working and it ain't adding nothing. Man, Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Learn from the straight up bro, straight up coach.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
All you coaches out here, niggas, only a player, get
some new coach, get some new players. It's that simple.
Don't ever entertain nothing. That the ain't bringing the same
energy and vibration. If father is that you cla coach,
I would dismiss that whole team, y'all laughing, I'm dead ass,
And then I hold and then I would hold a
try out the next day and I would invite Matt
and some other bruins. And then before the ship started,
I would say, I want everybody to understand where y'all alat,

(32:23):
I want everybody looker. You're a fucking paul niggas like
fucking our cinder came through here. Excuse me, kareem iduja bar. Yes,
motherfucking the great wits you came in here, you understand
for y'all in the greatness and on the grounds up, boy,
just been here for a damn this century. You understand it.
It is an iron aware this smallfucker you earn this ship.
And if he ain't hearnd it, then you don't get it. Bro.

(32:45):
And guess what these are the founder members that actually
built this. Everybody you see right here put a block
in this ship. And this foundation said that we can
all sit in here and standing here. Coach, bro, don't
you ever allow somebody to come into it and they
don't fit the standard. You understand what I'm saying. That's
why you go through something. That's why you take a
motherfucker through something. That's why you have training camp, because
you know what training camp does. If we's out who

(33:05):
don't want this? Everybody think they're a professional to they
see a professional being a professional. Everybody think they fucking
good until they see a nigga who's great. Hear me, nigga,
I'm talking that ship to y'all. Who the fucking y'all, nigga,
we don't know, y'all, Shut the fuck up and listen
to the coach and developed nigga. Yeah, that's what the
coach really need to tell you. Shut the fuck up.

(33:27):
You're not that good. That's what enough butchet, y'all need
to hear. I ain't even know that because I'm like,
be better and push yourself every day to be better.
Keep each other accountable. Coach, get rid of them, motherfucker.
They don't want to play. Get him out of there
and get someone to do. You think Dean gonna bring
some motherfuckers and his ship they don't want to man,
Come on, coach, whin's your ship? Coach your coach? Keep

(33:49):
going coach.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
You gotta tap in with the coach.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Man, keep going coach, keep developing, keep loving basketball, keep
giving that spirit of loving the game. Right. You know
them nigga don't want to play. Get him out of
the funk out of here. Run and man, I heard
that ship man coach come in more gat Bro, what
it just wasn't allowed the players there. Man, you might
need to go through that and just should it practice

(34:13):
it did, because that's my jely that should bother the
niggas who went to you went to the Brewish nigga
that used to mean shathing, bro.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, but they got to reach out and tell us
to you know what I mean, let us know we here, bring.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
The players in their coach, we here lehing players hear
from the niggas who was dead. Ye, have them all come.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
In there, invite us.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
They need to understand that. Yeah, the coaches sometimes need
to be reproprated by the gods who actually shut the
coach man. Man, Bro, we're here. Yeah, my bad nigga,
I ain't even get into I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Me and the homies we've been talking and it hurts
my soul because s C is more of a destination
than U c l A. Never used to lose the
top Cali kids. The kids don't even consider U c
l A now man, and and and a lot of
it is is the culture and tapping back into the
culture and understanding and utilizing the people that came before.
Like we're here waiting for y'all. Man, you know, we
get a lot of love from the women's side. We
go to the women's side and get invited in the

(35:05):
locker room and the shoot and one team.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
The girls are killing over there. The girls shout to
the UCL ruining girls.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Man on the men's side, man, they got a task,
they got they gotta tap back in with the coaching. Man,
he can't keep see is not in the basketball.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
It's time that it's time you and stat need to
go over there and have it all the smoke with
just the player.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Come on, man, we've been trying to get it.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Hear me, y'all need to go do all the smoke
with all the U c l A.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Play special guests is gonna be you.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Nah, I don't see because you know what because if
that coach said that, bro, I don't even want to
be in front of no my bro. You know who
I talked to. I talked to everybody in this room
right here. Love Ball, That's who I talked to. Bro,
everybody in this room. We all connect with the love
of ball. You know what I'm saying. But I can't
talk to no nigga who go Ain't gonna die on
the floor, gain gonna listen to his coach. Ain't gonna

(35:52):
come in here and slap five and come here with
some people down and ship. Nah Bro, No Bro, Noah,
I ain't built like that at all. For the love.
I'm for the work. I'm from the development. I want
to learn something from coach today, coming in with some vision. No,
I don't know everything. Coach know everything.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I'm gonna learn.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's why you came to college. You came to college
for what.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Get better?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Right, Nigga, what the fuck are we doing? Wait, tigget
on top of that. They're getting paid now bread.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
In l A. Come on, they got to take the hunger.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's what I'm trying to tell. Coach. It's a business. Now,
you're not performing, They're gonna get your ass out here anyways,
no contract, all this ship Finna get the real live
business doc and listen only motherfuckers are working, gonna eat
all this ship. That's that's that's wax. When it hit heat,
it's gonna milk. I'm telling you, I got your dog.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I want to ask you guys about just the process
of getting traded. Some guys got traded like PJ. Tucker,
for example, three times in five days. Dannis Schreuder has
been on five teams this season. Matt, I looked it
up earlier today. You got traded to two different teams
in a ten day stretch. So if you could just
tell me just the process of getting traded and.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Fucked up, it's scary, you know what I mean. And
we don't want people to feel bad, but it's sucked up.
I I'll give you one story with the Clippers in
two thousand, damn. What was this fourteen fifteen. We were
on the tarmac at our little takeoff thing in La
by La X You with the Clippers. Yeah, at the
trade deadline. You know it's noon, so we're supposed to
fly to Memphis and fucked up silent and this team

(37:23):
is always gambling, playing music, been drinking without the coaches knowing,
Like we cracked, you know what I mean, And everyone
was just uptied and this is Twitter time, so this
wasn't really Instagram time. So me, I remember, me and
Darren Kyllison are supposed to get traded for Raymond Felton
and Imon Sheppard, so we're supposed to go to the
next they're supposed to come to us. So that's something
that's bouncing around on Twitter. Wow, that shit is happening.

(37:46):
Bayron Mullins gets traded. I think turkle luga. These dudes
get taken off the airplane on the tar. We're on
the tarmac.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Is where you walk out, put the bag on, you.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Walk up, and we sat there for like two and
a half hours.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
The niggas off bags back off.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Some one of them had their wives. I forgot who
one of them had their wife with them. Like it was, bro.
It was the most fucked up two hours man, because
no one's really talking and some people are whispering because
they hear stuff, and some people are kicking the other
motherfucker's leg.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
You see this?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Did you see this?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Did you like my name was in it? Collinson's name was?
I say all that to say, man, it's a super
hectic time. And then obviously we're athletes, we make great
money and it's a great living, but you got think two
wom when you got the family, then you got to
uproot the family and move the family and do all
that kind of stuff. So man, it's it's it's it's
an amazing game and it's amazing life, but there's a
lot of hard ship that goes on behind it. And

(38:36):
trade deadlines are stressful. I mean, you know, Kirch Kurk
came out and said, you know, maybe we should give
the guys a couple of days off, you know, during
the trade deadline, so shit can happen. But I remember
that one time with the Clippers was fucked up. Or
we're sitting on the plane for two hours silent, watching
teammates leave, thinking I'm gonna leave, thinking DC is gonna leave,
and and then we get to Memphis and Doc try
to put you know, we really wanted like now you

(38:58):
wanted to trade us, like you don't you know? He
but you know, until you don't get traded once you
hear you in the rumors, and then know, how do
you kind of save that face the coach try to
save it is not real. But it's just like fuck it,
you know, I mean, it's the business at that point.
It's the business, you know what I mean, It is
what it is. Teams got to do what they got
to do, so you know, I just went out there
and did what I did. But it's tough, man. A
lot of shit goes another situation, Bro, I'm with the

(39:19):
Lakers when the CP trade is voided, so we're trying
to trade gasol out lamar Row and some other guys,
and then that shit voided David Boys and they had
to come back. Like that ship was the most awkward
ship ever. Bro. You feel bad because of how obviously
how much work Piling l O would put into that
team and everything, but it's just like fuck, you know
what I mean, like trade trade, deadline trades or it's

(39:42):
a crazy time.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Listen, man, you know a lot of people don't really
understand too that. You know, when you go into training camp,
you're building. Everybody in there's building fucks, and sometimes you're
dealing with a person that you not had history with
and y'all to see it, so all that is getting fixed, right.
Imagine being around somebody for four five six every day,

(40:06):
every day we see it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So you build a more than families.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
You build a karately with a guy and with guys,
and with a group of guys coaches, everybody's training. I mean,
it's a whole family, right. Trade deadline is probably a
trading day, or the last day of trading deadline is
probably the worst day other than training camp or the
last day of training camp, because when guys you grow

(40:30):
with through a training camp because training camp is so hard,
and then guys get cut, you build something, bro that's
a real energy. So when you see guys got to
come off the plane with their wife, go get their
kids out of school. Kids don't know. Kids don't know
why they're not coming back to school. Kids don't kids
don't know none of this, dawn. So yeah, I don't
think anybody in the league or anybody in professional is

(40:53):
asking people to ever be sympathetic. But it's probably one
of the most fucked up situations while you're being a
professional that you can ever be thrown it because you
think that it's a better situation, but they're just handling
you like like like like like like an I said,
I hate to say it, and then you only got
a block of time that you actually got to you
actually got to come in and actually speak on your

(41:14):
ship like no, I need more than four days and
then you control.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Then you gotta report. But think about just leading up
to it to trade that here, if you're hear in
your name, you're you're gonna get traded all the way
leading up to that. Like that focus the biggest part
of the game. We know it's focused ninety That shit
is a mental focus man. So it's it ain't easy, man,
So just on.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Some real ship. That's why I had trading clauses and
I had kickers in the language in my in my
contract so that I can control my movement.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Walk me through the process of that of being that
type of player that has somewhat of a say, so,
what you're gonna do with.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yeah, Bradley deal we saw.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And he held I think he held a lot of
shut up in Phoenix.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
But for you specifically, just like getting to Boston, there
was that process, like with your agent with GMS and
just kind of going through that process.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Oh, you're specific, but I say that when you are
the play the man, whatever you want to call it,
I called the ace. When your are the ace on
the team, you're involved in business flow. So although you yeah,
and Nay or whatever. They're coming to you telling, hey,
look we thinking about moving Matt, so all this ship,

(42:20):
you know, so sitting here knowing the pieces that's about
to move is even more fucked you know what I'm saying,
especially if that's my dog right stand thinking about when
Chase McGrady and fucking up Mac uh Miller, us Miller's
Mike Miller.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Mike Miller t Mac was like this dog man. Mike
Miller even had the Nigga haircut. Listen Caesar and had
the Mike Miller right, he was Ricky here too, Bro,
Mike Miller was Cod's that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Shout. You know what I'm saying, Like this man, they
trade that man next day. And I remember team Mac
went for sixty. You remember Team Map was like, fucking
I'm shooting the ball every time, I ain't passing.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Nobody Contina and Steve Right, I'm saying this will.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Say that that position is an even more fucked up position,
right because I'm sitting on a plane like damn, you
know what I'm saying, and ab and c Right, But
then when you have the luxury, matter of fact, when
you have the privilege of being into being able to control.
You're not on your native, but your movement, because you

(43:22):
see how they treating other Bro, They're thought native on that,
oh man, hard headed, don't want it. And then you
meet Matt, and Matt a whole other than what you thought. Right.
Everybody in the league is like that. So when you
get to be one, he's rare like four that can
control that, Bro, that's when you become the villain. That's
when they start really trying. And you know what I'm saying.

(43:43):
So if it won for the language and me protecting
myself in this contract, bro, I'll be shredding meat. So
I got to control all that to even go back
to where I started to start that whole native to
go take that go into production like that was from
when when I got to New York. Clinton was a
place of destination. But I was like, Okay, I'm finna

(44:04):
either start a life here in New York and let
this be and be you know what I'm saying, or
I'm about to go back to California and this one
I'm about to do. And when Billy King came to me,
it was like, look, this is what we're about to do.
I was like, Okay, cool, this is what we're about
to do, and then I just told it and then
that's what we went through. I think guys like Dann
Williams and other people that was on the thing who
knew I was getting traded, but what they didn't know

(44:25):
is that I actually signed it off. So when I
saw I was getting ready the lead, I started seeing
I started seeing mother phocks like they was happy, or
I started seeing the different, you know what I'm saying.
So when I saw them the next week, I was like,
because we played them right after that, it was fun
to see everybody cool. But they didn't know that I
controlled all of that. You know what I'm saying. That
was my genius. And I ain't tell nobody nothing, you
know what I'm saying, But to all the stars in

(44:48):
the league, control your narrative, control your movement, because when
you can do that, that's when that's the true power
in all of this. And guess what, they don't even
give you those you gotta be there, got to get
one of those yeah films.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
He said, maybe what two guys right now got him out?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, And then guess what, they're not even trying to
give that out. You gotta be like you gotta be
like and then too, so many these contrasts got causes
now crazy again, send them clauses to even play it
and get on the court. So like nah, then sent
thems used to be like sprinkles in ically gonna cake
bro like that's where we are today though, And then
I'm hearing that they find either cut the so we

(45:25):
didn't cut the games. I want everybody understanding that if
they cut the games to seventy two, you're gonna get
paid for seventy two games. You gotta get pro rated,
so you're not gonna get the same number. I'm just
telling you that. And they need to understand the math
of all of this when you go to seventy games
and then guess what you're playing forty eight You're playing
forty minutes. Now, that's not forty eight minutes. So that's
gonna get pro rated.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
The history but also the history of the game. If
you look at it like changing the amount of games
and changing the time of the quarters, that changes the
history of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
That's gonna change the history. Now I'm telling you can't
even compare it to the yesteryear. That's not even the
same shit. So That's what I'm saying. Not only that,
but that structure is a more collegiate structure. It's got
zone there is, it's got forty minutes, it's got bro
that's a collegiate. Professionals don't do that shit. We in
super shape.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Why do you feel like this era has such a
hard time competing?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
It's all that long. What's our fault? Do you know
that this era is playing? Is our kids?

Speaker 1 (46:14):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So it's our fault. Guess what? You fell on your
leg and then it got hurt and used to get
your ass whooped, and you know what that felt like,
and you got knocked out and then you got You
didn't want your twins to go through that. So guess
what you have the twins up. You didn't let them
get you. Didn't you hear what I'm saying to you.
We came second place, third Hey, it's okay to be
fourth place. We got tired of parently like you know,
it's okay. You know it's your third to day. You

(46:36):
you hear what I'm saying. So I say that to
say that, Yeah, man, I actually blame this on us,
and and we actually want a better life and an
easier life for our kids to go through. And in
that easy the lessons get you lose the lessons, bro,
because if you never fall off the bike, then you
don't know what it's like to fall off the bikes.
And you're gonna keep doing this ship until your ass crash.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Ride bikes no more.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Want nobody riding the bike in the street. Hey, ride
the bike in the in the driveway. I told you, Lord,
we wanted everything safe. Once we got the house in
the yard, it was don't leave the yard community, bro,
I'm right here. Don't leave the yard. Don't stay here.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
The reason you know the neighborhood because you not rolling
the bike through this month, So yeah you can in man,
it's us. Man. We didn't push the competitor in this
because I didn't want my kid and matt kid to fight.
So I broke him up and told no, don't fight,
y'all play together. But that was that was the jungle
of Tulu vibrations. Justing to the jungle. You know what

(47:34):
I'm saying. We just supposed to mind to it. You
know what I'm saying, Like that competitor hand, Yeah, we
did that. Well. We didn't want somebody to get hit
on the tackle because we got bowled over. You know
what I'm saying. Now, let's let's way tag, y'all play tag.
Know what, play flag? Grab a flag. So that's what
we are, bro, and then think about that to see football,

(47:57):
real football. Did you get tired? That's what that is is.
So that's what that was. It's changing now, Bro, we
finished see lower management in football. Yeah, am, seventeen games,
seventeen games, Bro, most guys used to play in twelve
thirteen and then doing whatever. Bro, Now I ain't playing
seventeen games.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I really feel that. I like Wiggins in Miami. Bro,
I think Miami gonna be better than what because guess what,
the noise is gone. Now we can focus. Wiggins is
not a disturbing player, and Bro, he can actually get
you thirty and I don't even think. I know he's
a little older, but Bro, he's always been one option.
He understands being he's been the man in high school.

(48:36):
He's understood in the Minnesota. Listen, it was great to
be around step see that being that structure, it's gonna help.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Listen, Brol Hero got to score over there.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Listen, and Bam, he's still young. Enough to be athletic
and whatever. Listen, bro, I like Wiggins over there, Bro, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Want to ask you guys about the buyout market. Kelly O.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Lennox, Bruce Brown, potentially Marcus Smart. There's some guys that
could be bought out.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
And that was shocking. Marcus Smart, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
We haven't heard from him because he was shocked to
see that He's been injury like the last two years
in Memphis. He's been hurt though, right, yeah, yeah, they
just got him off the books. I like to see.
I mean, I never I thought that Denver should never
let go Bruce Brown. I think guys like that only
get overlooked. And obviously he probably wouldn't got the money
which he should have got. But guys like that was
he was great for that structure. And I speaking of Denver,

(49:24):
I think they're a dark horse to come out the West.
But that's a that's a later show.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Man, You show, you show Milwaukee. Did Middleton? Yeah, Man,
Middleton gonna give him by? Does does he apply for
a buyout?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Where'd he go?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
He went to Washington?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Oh? That's hell? Yeah, probably that's that's a good question.
Where they buy Middleton out?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
You know? Help shape that hold. Milwaukee culture should.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Have been another potential.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
It shows you the business though, coming off double ankle surgery,
it's time to go.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Give a fuck what happened before I got Thanks.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
But I'm talking. I agree with you, but I'm talking
to the business about basketball. That's why people can never
be mad at players making the move because the teams
are doing in the heartbeat and it's their business.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
They ain't personal, No, it's business. So if I'm Bruce
brown Man, can you imagine if he's able to get
back to Denver. I like that, bro, Bruce brown He's
on the.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Market, potentially could be bought. He's on an expiring deal
right now.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And where'd he go?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
He went first?

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Brown was a part of the Pelicans trade.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
And then I want to ask you, Matt being a
sad guy Fox, Fox leaves, Levine comes in, and now.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
How do you like that Keys trait?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
You like the like you know Sacramento. Small market teams
have to do stuff differently. You know, they have to
draft well and they have to hope to land stuff
in trades because you're not necessarily going to attract free agents.
You know, I've watched Fox over the last man five
seven years just really develop his game, and I love
him as a player. I think he's, you know, let

(50:57):
the league in clutch points a few years ago. He's
a clutch type guy. But he just didn't see that
shit going nowhere in Sacramento. You know, Mike Brown was
in and out, you know, so when you talk about
the trade, I love Zach Levine too, only twenty nine.
We know he's a bucket, but I don't necessarily know
if that's gonna be somewhere he stays, or if that's
a fit that they can you know, him and tomorrow
build around. I don't really know what's going on with that,

(51:18):
so I don't Again, I don't want to disrespect exactly
mean by any way because I really like him, but
I thought they could have definitely got more because they
ended up what being two second round picks and future
shit did.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Like it was mainly a money thing, is what it
came down.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is it gonna pan out? Yeah, So I mean at
the end of the day, you had to make a move.
But again, Sacramento being a small market, their options are
probably limited, you know what I mean, So, you know,
to get it, to get a Zach Lavine for however
long he has to be there, and if they could
resign him, cool. But I really like Fox and Winby,
and I also like CP hovering over that situation because
I think CEP's one of the greatest competitors that's games

(51:53):
ever seen, and then one of the smartest guys. And
I think where Fox still needs to develop his game
is playmaking for us. He could pass the ball, but
to be able to playmake And I think Wenby is
a huge beneficiary of Chris Paul just putting that bitch
where it needs to be. So I like Chris being
able to mentor and actually talk to cepeople in that
trade happened. I was like, what's this mean for you,
old man? He's like, nah, they're talking about playing us together.

(52:15):
So you know, I think CP is a great mentor
for Wimby, and I think he'll be a great mentor
for Fox. But you know, those two young boys heading
down the road together for the next you know, five, seven,
ten years are gonna be tough. Also, shout out to
Pop man.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
They just reactivated their franchise for the next ten years.
You know what I'm saying. They got they duo, They
got Tony Parker, Tim Duncan Early you know what I'm
talking about. And bro I don't think we really were
missing about viseille Man Castle. It's like two pieces three
pieces that go with Wimby. That is just so I

(52:51):
already see the vision. Listen, I actually love this for
this Kings said, Levine fits right with DeRozan Elite and
then you got a pass him Big, you know who
never gets any play or never gets any Notariate. He's
to me, is y'all core Kee, Murried Murray, hit Hit

(53:11):
Killer Murray. Here's the trade ball here, Gard jr. Ass
he don't say ship plays Holler Trey Trey Lyones too.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
He's a dog. Listen, man, I love me Elak Monk too.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Man shat to be that team dog. You think it's
sweet and they're gonna hit your ass in him out
get fifty four, but Sam and Big can get forty
to fifty.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You taking you taking Milnk Malik Monk who was in
the sixth Man a year running. Ntil you got hurt
or sick at the end of last year. But now
what's that like? I did don't have no depth. They
have about five six names.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Hit me out.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
I'm here, let me out.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
You know the game. You can actually start the game,
and then whoever's going, whoever's not going. Let's say, let's
say out of Levigne DeRozan, Monk ain't going sit one
right away. I'm talking about five seven minute mark. You'll
see it. You'll see it for Nigga, you know, if
he he ain't got it, or if somebody just going right,
if all three of them going, you obvious, right, but

(54:03):
sh it, it ain't every night. All three of them
will get it going. But one of them others gonna
be having some energy. Bo send one. As soon as
you send one, they gonna ride it. You gonna You're
gonna do another sub at three minutes. You're gonna sell
them out when they come in with the second team.
You let me league a month go with the second team,
or you let the Rosan go with the second team,
or you let That's what I'm saying. Bro. If if
Doug and I know he knows how to actually do

(54:26):
all right, shout christ the voice player, shout out Cholncey Billups.
He got the fucking them young trail bases playing man
the meson I want to last ten to eve eleven man,
listen one of the things I really believe in, man,
is not listening, not talking about a lot of the
top heavy shit. Man, it's these small teams that you know,
they go through, they ship. But there's some good players
on these on these teams that don't do well too.
You know what I'm saying, But shot them out, man,

(54:47):
I'm saying, if if, if you know how to actually
because they want to, they want to run you in
the ground. That's who Mike Mike Brown came with that
go to state approach and then put those pieces together
to ruin you in the ground. Right, Christie's playing a
little different. Okay, we're gonna do that, but we're gonna
come back down. We're gonna sit down on you six.
So you're gonna compromise a little bit of your scoring

(55:08):
just because we digging in. Gotta work, bro, guess what
I'm giving that shit ten and fifteen games, they gonna
have that ship turn and watch bro. I love to
see listen, man, because you guess what, shad gonna be
one of them teams like the Trail Blazers. You don't
want to be in a dog fight with these young motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Man. Eight nine, Listen, Man, listening right now.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Patland is watch Portland, then you don't want to play Portland, man.
Portland got some Portland's got some homeless dogs.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That need a hole, said homeless.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Poorli got like eleven dogs that they just outside. They
ain't got no home day to stay warmed. They all
sleep together, they Lord, and then he come shave sharp
daddy boy hit you over across the head. You got
a fucking school nigga did and you got a mother
in the in the bushes everything he hit you from did. Lord.
They got about dogs and if you if you faint
over with a team off there shring your ass. Dog.

(55:54):
I saw Mafas come up in there thinking it.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Was sweet Dominagen man on your ass.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I'm talking about riped city boy, you hear me. They
got that little ship rocking up there. I'm watching the games.
We are watching the game straight up.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
I wanted to ask you guys about players that didn't
get dealt that were a part of the conversation for
the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Hold on before you asked that, who should have did
something in your estimation, who didn't? What team you felt
like should have made a move or still should been
more aggressive or did something, or players should have did something?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Still who I'm thinking who stayed? Still? They shouldn't have
h Man off the top. Damn, I know, I'm forget somebody.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
What we're doing in Phoenix?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Phobo should do nothing? I think Phoenix? Maybe Philly? Why
not Philly? You know what I mean? How long as
great as NBT is, are they going to ride him
for it? Fuck it? We're invested in him his entire career.
At some point, are you gonna give up and try
to start over? Max? He's over there, nice over there,
Jared McCain is nice over there? Who else they got?

(56:58):
Pg's over there? But he's you know, but you trade
a PG or do you trade an EMBIID and just
press the reset button? Because their whole thing was their
whole thing was, you know, trust the process. And I
think they've been waiting on the process and again and
Beid will sit fifteen games and come back and give
you a thirty point triple double. You know what I mean?
But are you are you tired that they had a
stat I don't know if you guys covered on this show,

(57:19):
but he set out he's played what four hundred and
twenty five games? And sat out four hundred hundred games
and he's made one hundred and twenty five million dollars
while he sat them games out. At some point does
a franchise say like, man, you are extremely fucking talented,
but you can't play for us because you can't play,
you can't be out there. Let me see what I
can get for you. Was that Darryl Moury over there? Wow?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
So you can propably see him?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
And I love it, and I love Embiid. I think
Embiid is a fucking killer.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Just not available.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
He's just not available.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Man, Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
What about a star like Kevin Durant That was kind
of dangles something.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I thought fetish, just because how I'm seeing Bradley Bill
being Yeah, you had him in the star line up,
you have him coming off the bench, and then you like, like, like,
I don't like how they're using Bradley Bill. Bro I'm
being honest, I don't like him coming off the bench.
And then I think that's enough offense that y'all can
find for him.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
But I didn't like the trade to begin with.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I didn't like him with Book. I thought him and
Book are damn near the same thing. But don't ain't
no book to be booked. Book ain't gave me no fifty.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
It's too many guys that have the same with the
similar mindset, like they didn't have nobody that was going
to distribute, and even Book tried to take a step
back and try to distribute.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
But like, look, crazy, Bro, I've seen Book come off
and just consolidating to a motherfucker who played defense. He
was really I'm like, where do you go? Bro? What
are you doing? What's what's the kid? They traded the
little uh the little African kid number two? He plays defense.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Josha Kogi man, Josha Koge was in the corner like this,
and Book was trying to get him and I was like, Bro,
you know you the score out of the two right,
And I didn't like.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I didn't like that, Broro. I'm I don't know, Bro,
I think Phoenix needs a makeover. I don't. I don't
think that. I think their spirit is over. And like
you said, Bro, you got three players playing the same
way that need the same thing.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
They need the same amount of shots, and there's a
pegging order to that too. For being real, I mean
obviously it's KD. Then it's booker than its bill, and
all three of them are great, and all three great options.
All three have been able to carry their teams respectively.
But it's just like all three and there's a with
a pegging order and.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
It ain't working, Bro, No, it ain't working. I actually
thought Phoenix after they run to the finals, would be
in like that conversation.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
And that's why I said that Bradley beal situation. I mean,
he stood on this ship and then you know we
hear KD didn't want to go back to Golden State.
That was crazy here when you heard when do you
think when you heard that? Bro?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Listen, I wish I wish I could be like a
I don't know, not a concilierity, but you know, like, lord,
do you understand going back to Golden State with that
just did for all of y'all. Bro, That just put
us back. Bro, you got a chance. But guess what happens.
I get it because I've been there. No one wants
to actually change their surroundings again. We talked about the
inconvenience of a trade.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
When you trade, bro, you gotta pick the whole thing
up and you gotta move it that to where you're
going like he didn't want to make no inco.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I didn't look at it that way. I looked at
it and that there's still could be some hard feelings
over there, whether it be the fans, whether it be
whether it be someone. I think there's still hard because
I think if we're thinking big picture, kd back in
Golden State gives him a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Bob Meyer's not over there no more. Right, only piece
that's over there that I'm thinking. You're talking about Dremond
and that's a funk. That's a conversation. You don't think
Draymond want to win.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I'm not. I'm just like I said I I looked
at it more as kind of being closer to that
team at one point and then kind of seeing the
fallout and kind of understanding the underlying fallout. Like when
I heard Katie want to go back, I'm like, because
first thinking like, damn KT goes back there, that's a crack.
It's activating. And when I heard he didn't want to,
I'm like, this has to be deeper than I don't

(01:00:44):
because you know KT is from everything I know, he
picks himself up and goes you know what I mean.
So it's not like kids are in school and all
that kind of shit. So when I saw that he
didn't want to go there, I thought there was something
that was I'm not starting no rumors, I'm just thinking
it had to be. To me, it had to be
deeper than relocation for that team, because on paper and
in the basketball sense, since reunite Stephen KD. Fuck yeah,

(01:01:05):
So it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Ain't gonna happen during the year. It's gonna happen to something, Okay,
because guess what if the fetish Suns don't do ship
first off, if they don't make any noise in the playoffs.
I think, just like Philly, I think a lot of
teams listen with local movement, guess what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Anyone's anyone can get it. It's it, anybody can get.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Everybody's got a target. Broth straight up. You know what
I'm saying, Like, yess up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Lastly, all starts next week. You guys have some stuff
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
If you guys want to speak about what's going on
next week for both of both, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah, man, we'll be out there. We're doing an event together, right,
we have to fight. Yeah, Yeah, appreciate all the smoke
certified ticket, gonna be out there. We're doing something on Thursday.
We're we're out there setting up shop. Man, We're lucky.
We're interviewing run TMC. We're just gonna be We got
the Hall of Famers, we got to Rebelieve, we Believe
reunion coming back apart something we didn't know you were

(01:01:57):
possibly gonna be, or we thought you were going to
be a part that we got, you know, mante and
and Barren and those guys back, and it really I mean,
you know, I'm from an our hour away from there.
You know, played there with the We Believed team and
and won a championship with the with the seventeen team.
So it's just good to go back up north Man,
so so excited to be doing stuff with you up
there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You dope to be back in Sana, fran Man. The
Bay always one of my more spirited places.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Was the last time is there not to cut you off?
The Oakland Oakland two thousand and two, was that the
last time you guys in the Bay for All Star
was at the Dunk thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
That we're doing like a little we're doing like a
little riff. We're doing like a little riff on that
I didn't even know. Look at the playback. I love
play We're gonna jump in the folk see wherever on
that before I think before the Zache Lavigne and Gordon
Dunk contest was two thousand, was just because of the caliber.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Remember we were watching that ship in Study Hall where
we're in North Carolina where we were like we were
playing North Carolina I think, and we were in we
were watching that ship and study Hall. We have the
TV in the in the in the room, you're going
to tap back and now we're going We're going up there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
We're gonna shoot the show. We got some stuff we're
gonna do with Chase. Chase got an activation. We're gonna
run through shout to Chase. Got ja y'all rode, we
got lit d We gonna holler them tap in with
the city and yeah we get that. I think we
are gonna be there Saturday night and then yeah, we
in and out. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
We're teaming up with us Steph and Chase Bank as
well and Splash. They got a new sports bar that's
right next to the arena that we're tapping in with
their team. Chase as well. So yes, I think it's
gonna be great. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I gotta say this man, shoutut to the NBA, shout
out to all the players that got chosen to be
able to come to San Francisco, because it's truly an
honor to be an All Star.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I just want to give y'all y'all flowers, man, and
telling every player that got chosen for this, whether you're
in the rookie game, whatever you're doing in this man,
to appreciate it, bro because it's truly a special time
and you get the privilege to be able to perform
on Sunday in front of everybody because you know, this
is the NBA Super Bowl. So I just want to

(01:03:57):
give a big flowers to everybody, all the players that's participating,
to have a good time. All the young women. Listen.
I'm gonna just throw this south there. Hey listen then WNBA.
I would love to see Caitlin Clark and my girl
from What's My Girl? Sabrina. Let's do it. Let's do
a shootout. Let's do a shootout between the twos. How
do girls taken? Shoot it? You feel me? Nike? You
put it together? Yeah, that's what we want to see. Yeah,

(01:04:19):
let's put that's what we want to see. You know
what I'm saying. But yeah, Man, to everybody that's in it,
done contests, all that three point contests, man, have a
great time. This is all for you players. These are
this weekend is for you. This is our weekend man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
And safe.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Be safe out there because Oakland in the Bay in
some real cities. And respect everything and have a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
From your boy Ticking and mat Man certifive smoke man.
Respect

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