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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rockies Baseball come up here at the bottom of the hour.
There are in taking on the Texas Rangers, and to
help us break that down, including the big news of
the weekend, Bud Black being released, We're going to head
out to our KOI Comma Spirit Health hotline and bring
on Voice of the Rockies, Jack Corgan.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jack, my friend, it's good to catch up with you.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I'm good, Ryan, how are you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're doing great. It's good to hear your voice. We'll
hear it again here in about twenty five minutes. All right, man,
You guys got a chance briefly to react to it
in the post game yesterday. Tell us some more thoughts
that you have after learning that Bud Black was released.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Well, I mean, there's no question they knew that this
year was going to be a process, and they certainly
felt by the second half of the year, as the
roster evolved with young players, that they would be better.
The opening schedule was going to be difficult. Then you
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add in the injury and things weren't going in the
right direction to the point that, you know, guys, not
unlike when David Adelman took over for Michael Malone. You know,
whether it's just that different voice or that idea of
doing something that's what was a big part of yesterday.
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Buddy didn't have all the tools he needed to have
a chance to be competitive, and I think that eventually
forced the move they made.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
So Jack, do you think and again, I guess asking
you to speculate here a little bit, but you've covered
the team, You've been the voice of the team for
a long time. It does this search for the next
skipper or the next direction of the franchise? Does that
go outside the franchise? And if so, do you have
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any idea in terms of where it might land.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Well, it's it's the greatest question you can ask about
the Rockies because the challenge is Dave, Yeah, it's It's
almost imperative in any business if it has gone through
it a period of time where it's not getting the output,
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not getting the success that they want to have to
get some outside eyes and voices to make an evaluation
and see how that plays out. But at the same time,
unfortunately nobody else in baseball plays with the environmental challenges.
(02:49):
If you will that that the Rockies. Do you know
Dan O'Dowd, who had as much success as any Rockies
general manager said in this whole process going on the spring,
he says, until you live through the challenge of putting
together and maintaining a team, dealing with the altitude to
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sea level changes and the back and forth to it,
and the ballpark being so large, and you know, lots
of factors. So if you haven't experienced it, your theories
might be great, but the reality of its, of the
execution of the theory or theories doesn't always play the
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way you expect it to until you go through the experience.
I think they do need outside eyes and an outside
voice to some level, but again, the experience of trying
to do it at two hundred and eighty feet is
unlike anything else in baseball.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So Jack, with all that being tell me this.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
So, the trade deadline is July thirty first this year,
right Thursday, six pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Is there anything that.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
The Rockies could do leading up to the trade dayline
that could possibly give the fan base any sense.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Of hope, because, like you're talking about, I've heard it
at the ballpark.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
It's altitude and trying to get guys that come here
have been very difficult. So is there a move that
they could make by trade dayline to change some of
the trajectory of this organization.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
To be honest with you, Nick, I think if the
Rockies are going to spend money or make moves, I
think it's much more on money they spend in scouting,
in adding more scouts, in adding more evaluators, in adding
more coaches at the minor league levels, to get even
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more more teaching going on at the lower levels to
prep guys for the big leagues.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It almost becomes counterproductive Nick, to say, Okay, if they
wanted to make a move to bring in somebody that
might make things better in the second half, at the
expense of giving up prospects. I think what's happening now
is they have finally committed to the idea of you know,
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we've got to play kids, and we'll be playing more
kids and finding out who can do it and who can't.
But at the same time they're dealing with the fact
that sometimes the development they've had with the minor league
teams hasn't been as good as they hoped or anticipated
who was going to be. There's been some lean years,
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some draft busts, if you will, and they are a
draft and develop organization and when they miss and they
had a stretch where they missed, you know, with high
draft picks for a couple of years straight. That's what
you're seeing now. The result of it, the lack of depth,
the lack of talent depth in the organization.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Rockies and Rangers.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Coming up here at the bottom of the hour, Jack,
I wanted to ask you about Warren Shaffer. It takes
over as the interim manager. You guys are going to
have an exclusive one on one with him coming up
during the pregame.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Tell us a little bit about what we should expect.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And I know it's mid season, so I don't know
if there's much he can do to change things up.
But what will you expect to see from him now
as the manager.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Well, people don't know as much about Warren Ryan, but
I mean, this is a guy who has long had
the desire to be a big league manager, to get
into coaching when his talent as a player leveled off
and he wasn't going to make the big leagues, made
the commitment to go into coaching, has coached in various
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positions every level in the organization a manager the last
couple of years. He is a high energy guy, a
high focus guy. I hope they give him a gent
because he was going to be he was going to
be a big league manager at some point. He has
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those tools, Dave. You know this as well as anybody
you can. You can see in an assistant coach or whatever.
Oh yeah, that guy's going to be a head coach someday.
And that's the way Schaefe is. I think he will
get the most out of his opportunity here, and I
hope they'd play well enough that he'd be considered past
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this year. I know some people don't like to hear that,
but I think he's going to be a very good
big league manager.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
He jack.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Final question for me as we look at the rest
of this year, and you'd be the last person that
any of us need to remind the Rockies are seven
and thirty three. So what couple of things in your
mind would be most interesting in terms of Rockies fans
kind of digging down and watching for the remainder of
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the year, whether it be you know, a starting pitcher,
a young guy, or maybe a couple of guys that
are everyday players that you think really have a chance
to if not this year turn into quality major league
guys that will excite Rockies fans for the future.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, that's a great question, Dave. I think even here
in the early going and the absence of Ezekiel Tovar
for more than half the games made a bad situation worse.
But I think you could look and say, in the
position players, I think there are four guys right now,
Doyle Tovar, Hunter Goodman, and Jordan Beck who are going
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to be solid big league players. You know, we'll see
with Michael Tolly, I think Chase Dolander is going to
be a very good big league pitcher. I think the
question will be will the Rockies feel like accelerating a
few guys' opportunities. Gabriel Hughes number one pick a couple
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of years ago at Hartford right now, does he see
some time in the big leagues enjoin Dolander into the rotation.
Carson Palmquist is a left hander at Albuquerque right now.
He could be a guy to see. Eric Carrolls, the
longtime Dodger. His son Kyle is a legitimate big time prospect.
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He's at Double A now and maybe we see him
later in the year. Is another name. Cole Carrig that
I hope we'll get a chance to see sometime. And
one more name, Jared Thomas. He's at Spokane right now.
But this kid has the hit tool. People are really
excited about him. So you know, the big question will
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be do they force feed some of these guys with
the possible challenges when you do that, or are they
gonna just stay the course this year, let those guys
get their minor league experience and start fresh with a
whole bunch of kids next year.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Well, Jack, we've seen people in their life, and we've
seen organizations hit rock bottom and that does something to
the mentality to help them break out of that downward spiral.
Do you think the same thing is capable of happening
with the Rockies. The reason I'm asking that because you've had.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Two coaches who were fired, Bud Black.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
As of recently and.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
The hitting coach.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I mean, could this be rock bottom for the players
and they say, you know what, now we have to
go out and we have to win for Bud Black
because it wasn't all his faults.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You know, that's great to look at that perspective. Jerry
talked with Kyle Friedman, and I talked with Ryan McMahon
and these veteran guys who have been around a little
bit said hey, this is on us. You know, we
didn't perform. You know, Kyle got emotional the other day
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and said, hey, we haven't played well. This is on us,
if not more so than on Buddy, because ultimately, the
players play the game and for whatever the reasons were,
I mean, the veterans, whether it's been in the rotation
with Kyle and Marcus and Senza Tella trying to work
back from their Tommy Johns, but they haven't been great.
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McMahon had that horrible stretch and so those guys are
taking a lot of the accountability that you know this
this probably happened in part because they really played poorly.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Jack always great.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
By the way, the music is really epic behind you, man,
you know you know why they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
They're opening the roof.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Oh yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have it open tonight,
which is great. It'll be the first time for us.
It's it's only the fourth time this year, and we
were told it'll be the final time in the regular season. Anyway,
because it's getting ready to be smoking hot down here
in Texas.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It just added such a level of flare to every answer.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I always finished, you know, my visits with you guys
with a little a little bit of symphonic music.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Absolutely every time.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Jack, look forward to hearing you hear in just a
few minutes live from Arlington.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Appreciate the perspective, my friend.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
All right, good to talk with you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Thanks Jack at the Great Jack Corrigan, that's tough deal, man.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm to your point. I'm interested to find out how
they look. You know, what this does is shake up.
You know the Nuggets, for example, they had this right
before the postseason, massive shakeup coach and GM fired. They
played great their response from the Nuggets. They won those
three games in the regular season, they went on to
win the series against the Clippers, and here they are
now two and two against the the one sixty eight
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games in the post in the regular season.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, but they they had a nucleus of championship players
when the Nuggets had won two years ago, and the
nucleus of that winning team is still here. Intact. Rockies
don't have that. So they don't they don't have championship players.
And that's why I asked the question about Hey, are there,
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you know, three or four guys that Jack knows of
that that maybe most Rockies fans maybe we wouldn't know about.
And he he listed the guys that he did, a
couple of Double A guys. But I think it's gonna
be interesting to see how this season is played out
by the Rockies management, right mid you do you bring
some of these young guys up any sooner.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Than than you normally would?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
How do you stem the tide on the team that's
lost thirty three of their first forty games?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I mean this, this is I can't imagine a major
league season could be any.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Worse after the first forty games.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
See, here's what I hope that the Rockies ownership decides
to do. And I'm glad you asked Jack that question.
Why don't you go ahead and show that you have
a true blue plan. And that plan may not look
like it's coming to fruition because you're bringing up a
lot of young players, but I think it's important to
get those young players who may be in Double A
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or maybe they're playing great, you know, Single A ball,
bring those players up, give them that major league baseball experience.
So now you are actually working towards something, and you're
also branding those players and building something out with the
fan base, so now they have a reason to come
to a baseball game other than seeing the opponent that
you're playing.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But you need a plan. So right now, if any one.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
On the text line you're driving around, tell me what
you think the plan is, because I haven't seen one
of the past couple of years the planet.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And to the point that's that's not about Black sing.
That is a that is an organ.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
To but but but yet he was fired because they
didn't have a plan.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So then you have to look. You can only do
so much in season.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
The plan didn't work, you go into the off season
and you're gonna have to retool.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
That's like a.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Wife the voice and her husband because she she cheated.
She's the one that cheated, but now.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
She's the boss of you.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Did Ryan?
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Stop looking at me that way? Person, stop looking at
me that way. I'm just saying, it's pissing me off.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Basically I'm looking at you.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It's pissing me off, not the way that you're looking
at me, just the fact of what happened to Black Okay,
I just think that is it's it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Benjamin ol Bride Broncos country tonight, coming up. After the
game tonight, I been how's it going?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's good?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Why is your chair so small? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Damn, Steve Atwater lowrider here. I don't even know what
to do with what's on the yellow brick road. Now,
I know how Peter feels all the time. Holy cow,
we gotta get that share.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
We gotta get that share fixed.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Like this thing is scraping the ground, can't go over
to speedbumps or anything about the bottom out here.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Wow, it's official.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
By the way, you said it was going to happen
in the last hour.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You give us the heads up. The Broncos are playing
the Chiefs on Christmas Night.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I was kind of hoping that they if that was
going to be the case, that they were going to
get the Saturday game the week before. Because the NFL
is doing Saturday games, you get the extra day of rest.
Fox has already announced two of their games on Saturday,
so there's still a chance that Broncos could play on
Saturday get that extra day. But as it sits right now,
it looks like we're gonna be able a short week
in Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Anything else about the schedule that you can, through your
context tell us without divulging any sort of information that
you have been sworn to secrecy.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Well, I've got a teaser out there, and if you
haven't figured it out already, you know we're going to
be playing internationally this year, going back to the going
back to London. So you know, I would suggest that
if you head over there, we'll they're a jet.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Hmmm, you're not.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's like not even clever, Like usually you do something else.
There's some kind of puzzle or something. You just said
jet I mailed it over that mailed it in this time. Yeah,
so Week.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
One probably probably a home game this year, not on that.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
But I think we're getting I think we're getting a
Week one home game this year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, don't want to speculate on any of.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
The Well, I mean, you know it's important not for
Vigor stripes, but you know it could be.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's a little better, you know what it's it's a
giant question.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Is it is a giant question to one of the two.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's a little it's a little better than your London reference. Yeah,
the London reference was just bad, like so bad all right, Well,
what are you gonna be talking about tonight on BCT
after the Rockies game?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
A little bit my monologue about how Bud Black was
a scapegoat. You know, I think I got a good,
good eight minute monologue on that. So yeah, a little
bit of the schedule stuff, getting into some of that,
and then news of the day Broncos signed a couple
of tryout players from the mini camp and what that means,
and you know, end of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Sixth time in Broncos' history they play on Christmas Day
or night?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
What did we do to the scheduling gods on that one?
Got at Arrowhead?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh yeah, I mean the good news?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Did you get the de facto by after that game
late in the season.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
That's the only positive I'm taken out of that, because
you know, you're not playing the following Sunday, so you're
getting into the factory by to rest up that late
in the season.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What day of the week this year is Christmas Thursday?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Thursday?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh, it's the first literal Thursday night football.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So that that digs the next question, and we'll find
on the schedule coming to Wednesday night, is that the
second Thursday they end up playing or is that the
only Thursday because Christmas sometimes gets treated as a different.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Standartone something it does.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So will they get two Thursday night games this.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Year that I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't know either, and I don't think it will be.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Like I said, I was kind of hoping for that
Saturday game before that because the twentieth is going to
have NFL games on it. But the games we know
so far, the NFC from Fox, we don't know the
AFC games have gonna be played that day yet.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think the Jazz just didn't get the They did not.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
They did not they did not get Cooper flag that
the Jazz have the fifth pick.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Fifth pick, there are four picks remaining.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
You just you tanked, you got fined for tanking, and
you wound up with the fifth pick.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So San Antonio is still alive, Orlando's alive, Charlotte's Charlotte's alive,
and who's the fourth.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Seventy six ers.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Yep, they're showing it on the Well, you get Wemby
in flag on the same team.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I'm going to say right now, Philadelphia is gonna win
the top pick.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Okay, So you're saying that I should wave the white
flag on the Spurs getting then.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
No, I mean they're in it. They're one of the
top four. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I think
Philadelphia I just wanted.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
To squeeze a white flag. Did all that tanking to
get the fifth overall player?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Fined for it?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They got fined for it.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Zz owner is a female that I do not know
her last name. She was there and they showed her
when it was announced that Utah would have the fifth pick.
She looked like and Charlotte, by the way, as the
fourth pick. She looked like she had just had really
bad sushi.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Wow, it looks like it could.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Be the.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's gonna be Alice. They're gonna get They lost Lucas,
so they're going to get a new.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So it's not Dallas.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh, no, it is Dallas one. They get Cooper flag.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Dallas is the first pick.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
But that with Anthony Davis. I wonder if Nico looks
like a better GM right now, right now, Yes, he does.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
After the Cooper flag with Kyrie and a Dyes and
the rest of the West.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The amount of people thinking that this was staged, I
thought Philadelphia made more sense if it were rigged.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Philadelphia much much bigger market, but.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Uh lowest odds to win an NBA lottery one point
five two percent Maverick.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's the magic with I think it was
a shack here, wouldn't it when there were one point?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, whn't that? Whn't that shack? What was that?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Penny? Might have been shack?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, that's incredible, great job, Grant, appreciate you as always, Nick.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
We got Rockies baseball coming up next right here on
kat and ninety four one F M.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Dick the long Ball
Rockies Baseball come up here at the bottom of the hour.
There are in taking on the Texas Rangers, and to
help us break that down, including the big news of
the weekend, Bud Black being released, We're going to head
out to our KOI Comma Spirit Health hotline and bring
on Voice of the Rockies, Jack Corgan.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jack, my friend, it's good to catch up with you.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I'm good, Ryan, how are you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're doing great. It's good to hear your voice. We'll
hear it again here in about twenty five minutes. All right, man,
You guys got a chance briefly to react to it
in the post game yesterday. Tell us some more thoughts
that you have after learning that Bud Black was released.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Well, I mean, there's no question they knew that this
year was going to be a process, and they certainly
felt by the second half of the year, as the
roster evolved with young players, that they would be better.
The opening schedule was going to be difficult. Then you
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add in the injury and things weren't going in the
right direction to the point that, you know, guys, not
unlike when David Adelman took over for Michael Malone. You know,
whether it's just that different voice or that idea of
doing something that's what was a big part of yesterday.
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Buddy didn't have all the tools he needed to have
a chance to be competitive, and I think that eventually
forced the move they made.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
So Jack, do you think and again, I guess asking
you to speculate here a little bit, but you've covered
the team, You've been the voice of the team for
a long time. It does this search for the next
skipper or the next direction of the franchise? Does that
go outside the franchise? And if so, do you have
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any idea in terms of where it might land.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Well, it's it's the greatest question you can ask about
the Rockies because the challenge is Dave, Yeah, it's It's
almost imperative in any business if it has gone through
it a period of time where it's not getting the output,
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not getting the success that they want to have to
get some outside eyes and voices to make an evaluation
and see how that plays out. But at the same time,
unfortunately nobody else in baseball plays with the environmental challenges.
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If you will that that the Rockies. Do you know
Dan O'Dowd, who had as much success as any Rockies
general manager said in this whole process going on the spring,
he says, until you live through the challenge of putting
together and maintaining a team, dealing with the altitude to
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sea level changes and the back and forth to it,
and the ballpark being so large, and you know, lots
of factors. So if you haven't experienced it, your theories
might be great, but the reality of its, of the
execution of the theory or theories doesn't always play the
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way you expect it to until you go through the experience.
I think they do need outside eyes and an outside
voice to some level, but again, the experience of trying
to do it at two hundred and eighty feet is
unlike anything else in baseball.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So Jack, with all that being tell me this.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
So, the trade deadline is July thirty first this year,
right Thursday, six pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Is there anything that.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
The Rockies could do leading up to the trade dayline
that could possibly give the fan base any sense.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Of hope, because, like you're talking about, I've heard it
at the ballpark.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
It's altitude and trying to get guys that come here
have been very difficult. So is there a move that
they could make by trade dayline to change some of
the trajectory of this organization.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
To be honest with you, Nick, I think if the
Rockies are going to spend money or make moves, I
think it's much more on money they spend in scouting,
in adding more scouts, in adding more evaluators, in adding
more coaches at the minor league levels, to get even
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more more teaching going on at the lower levels to
prep guys for the big leagues.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It almost becomes counterproductive Nick, to say, Okay, if they
wanted to make a move to bring in somebody that
might make things better in the second half, at the
expense of giving up prospects. I think what's happening now
is they have finally committed to the idea of you know,
(05:30):
we've got to play kids, and we'll be playing more
kids and finding out who can do it and who can't.
But at the same time they're dealing with the fact
that sometimes the development they've had with the minor league
teams hasn't been as good as they hoped or anticipated
who was going to be. There's been some lean years,
(05:52):
some draft busts, if you will, and they are a
draft and develop organization and when they miss and they
had a stretch where they missed, you know, with high
draft picks for a couple of years straight. That's what
you're seeing now. The result of it, the lack of depth,
the lack of talent depth in the organization.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Rockies and Rangers.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Coming up here at the bottom of the hour, Jack,
I wanted to ask you about Warren Shaffer. It takes
over as the interim manager. You guys are going to
have an exclusive one on one with him coming up
during the pregame.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Tell us a little bit about what we should expect.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And I know it's mid season, so I don't know
if there's much he can do to change things up.
But what will you expect to see from him now
as the manager.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Well, people don't know as much about Warren Ryan, but
I mean, this is a guy who has long had
the desire to be a big league manager, to get
into coaching when his talent as a player leveled off
and he wasn't going to make the big leagues, made
the commitment to go into coaching, has coached in various
(06:59):
positions every level in the organization a manager the last
couple of years. He is a high energy guy, a
high focus guy. I hope they give him a gent
because he was going to be he was going to
be a big league manager at some point. He has
(07:20):
those tools, Dave. You know this as well as anybody
you can. You can see in an assistant coach or whatever.
Oh yeah, that guy's going to be a head coach someday.
And that's the way Schaefe is. I think he will
get the most out of his opportunity here, and I
hope they'd play well enough that he'd be considered past
(07:41):
this year. I know some people don't like to hear that,
but I think he's going to be a very good
big league manager.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
He jack.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Final question for me as we look at the rest
of this year, and you'd be the last person that
any of us need to remind the Rockies are seven
and thirty three. So what couple of things in your
mind would be most interesting in terms of Rockies fans
kind of digging down and watching for the remainder of
(08:08):
the year, whether it be you know, a starting pitcher,
a young guy, or maybe a couple of guys that
are everyday players that you think really have a chance
to if not this year turn into quality major league
guys that will excite Rockies fans for the future.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, that's a great question, Dave. I think even here
in the early going and the absence of Ezekiel Tovar
for more than half the games made a bad situation worse.
But I think you could look and say, in the
position players, I think there are four guys right now,
Doyle Tovar, Hunter Goodman, and Jordan Beck who are going
(08:47):
to be solid big league players. You know, we'll see
with Michael Tolly, I think Chase Dolander is going to
be a very good big league pitcher. I think the
question will be will the Rockies feel like accelerating a
few guys' opportunities. Gabriel Hughes number one pick a couple
(09:11):
of years ago at Hartford right now, does he see
some time in the big leagues enjoin Dolander into the rotation.
Carson Palmquist is a left hander at Albuquerque right now.
He could be a guy to see. Eric Carrolls, the
longtime Dodger. His son Kyle is a legitimate big time prospect.
(09:33):
He's at Double A now and maybe we see him
later in the year. Is another name. Cole Carrig that
I hope we'll get a chance to see sometime. And
one more name, Jared Thomas. He's at Spokane right now.
But this kid has the hit tool. People are really
excited about him. So you know, the big question will
(09:56):
be do they force feed some of these guys with
the possible challenges when you do that, or are they
gonna just stay the course this year, let those guys
get their minor league experience and start fresh with a
whole bunch of kids next year.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Well, Jack, we've seen people in their life, and we've
seen organizations hit rock bottom and that does something to
the mentality to help them break out of that downward spiral.
Do you think the same thing is capable of happening
with the Rockies. The reason I'm asking that because you've had.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Two coaches who were fired, Bud Black.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
As of recently and.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
The hitting coach.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I mean, could this be rock bottom for the players
and they say, you know what, now we have to
go out and we have to win for Bud Black
because it wasn't all his faults.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You know, that's great to look at that perspective. Jerry
talked with Kyle Friedman, and I talked with Ryan McMahon
and these veteran guys who have been around a little
bit said hey, this is on us. You know, we
didn't perform. You know, Kyle got emotional the other day
(11:09):
and said, hey, we haven't played well. This is on us,
if not more so than on Buddy, because ultimately, the
players play the game and for whatever the reasons were,
I mean, the veterans, whether it's been in the rotation
with Kyle and Marcus and Senza Tella trying to work
back from their Tommy Johns, but they haven't been great.
(11:32):
McMahon had that horrible stretch and so those guys are
taking a lot of the accountability that you know this
this probably happened in part because they really played poorly.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Jack always great.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
By the way, the music is really epic behind you, man,
you know you know why they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
They're opening the roof.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Oh yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have it open tonight,
which is great. It'll be the first time for us.
It's it's only the fourth time this year, and we
were told it'll be the final time in the regular season. Anyway,
because it's getting ready to be smoking hot down here
in Texas.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It just added such a level of flare to every answer.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I always finished, you know, my visits with you guys
with a little a little bit of symphonic music.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Absolutely every time.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Jack, look forward to hearing you hear in just a
few minutes live from Arlington.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Appreciate the perspective, my friend.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
All right, good to talk with you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Thanks Jack at the Great Jack Corrigan, that's tough deal, man.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm to your point. I'm interested to find out how
they look. You know, what this does is shake up.
You know the Nuggets, for example, they had this right
before the postseason, massive shakeup coach and GM fired. They
played great their response from the Nuggets. They won those
three games in the regular season, they went on to
win the series against the Clippers, and here they are
now two and two against the the one sixty eight
(13:00):
games in the post in the regular season.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, but they they had a nucleus of championship players
when the Nuggets had won two years ago, and the
nucleus of that winning team is still here. Intact. Rockies
don't have that. So they don't they don't have championship players.
And that's why I asked the question about Hey, are there,
(13:23):
you know, three or four guys that Jack knows of
that that maybe most Rockies fans maybe we wouldn't know about.
And he he listed the guys that he did, a
couple of Double A guys. But I think it's gonna
be interesting to see how this season is played out
by the Rockies management, right mid you do you bring
some of these young guys up any sooner.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Than than you normally would?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
How do you stem the tide on the team that's
lost thirty three of their first forty games?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I mean this, this is I can't imagine a major
league season could be any.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Worse after the first forty games.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
See, here's what I hope that the Rockies ownership decides
to do. And I'm glad you asked Jack that question.
Why don't you go ahead and show that you have
a true blue plan. And that plan may not look
like it's coming to fruition because you're bringing up a
lot of young players, but I think it's important to
get those young players who may be in Double A
(14:25):
or maybe they're playing great, you know, Single A ball,
bring those players up, give them that major league baseball experience.
So now you are actually working towards something, and you're
also branding those players and building something out with the
fan base, so now they have a reason to come
to a baseball game other than seeing the opponent that
you're playing.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But you need a plan. So right now, if any one.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
On the text line you're driving around, tell me what
you think the plan is, because I haven't seen one
of the past couple of years the planet.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And to the point that's that's not about Black sing.
That is a that is an organ.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
To but but but yet he was fired because they
didn't have a plan.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So then you have to look. You can only do
so much in season.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
The plan didn't work, you go into the off season
and you're gonna have to retool.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
That's like a.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Wife the voice and her husband because she she cheated.
She's the one that cheated, but now.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
She's the boss of you.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Did Ryan?
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Stop looking at me that way? Person, stop looking at
me that way. I'm just saying, it's pissing me off.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Basically I'm looking at you.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It's pissing me off, not the way that you're looking
at me, just the fact of what happened to Black Okay,
I just think that is it's it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Benjamin ol Bride Broncos country tonight, coming up. After the
game tonight, I been how's it going?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's good?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Why is your chair so small? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Damn, Steve Atwater lowrider here. I don't even know what
to do with what's on the yellow brick road. Now,
I know how Peter feels all the time. Holy cow,
we gotta get that share.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
We gotta get that share fixed.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Like this thing is scraping the ground, can't go over
to speedbumps or anything about the bottom out here.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Wow, it's official.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
By the way, you said it was going to happen
in the last hour.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You give us the heads up. The Broncos are playing
the Chiefs on Christmas Night.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I was kind of hoping that they if that was
going to be the case, that they were going to
get the Saturday game the week before. Because the NFL
is doing Saturday games, you get the extra day of rest.
Fox has already announced two of their games on Saturday,
so there's still a chance that Broncos could play on
Saturday get that extra day. But as it sits right now,
it looks like we're gonna be able a short week
in Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Anything else about the schedule that you can, through your
context tell us without divulging any sort of information that
you have been sworn to secrecy.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Well, I've got a teaser out there, and if you
haven't figured it out already, you know we're going to
be playing internationally this year, going back to the going
back to London. So you know, I would suggest that
if you head over there, we'll they're a jet.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Hmmm, you're not.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's like not even clever, Like usually you do something else.
There's some kind of puzzle or something. You just said
jet I mailed it over that mailed it in this time. Yeah,
so Week.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
One probably probably a home game this year, not on that.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
But I think we're getting I think we're getting a
Week one home game this year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, don't want to speculate on any of.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
The Well, I mean, you know it's important not for
Vigor stripes, but you know it could be.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's a little better, you know what it's it's a
giant question.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Is it is a giant question to one of the two.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's a little it's a little better than your London reference. Yeah,
the London reference was just bad, like so bad all right, Well,
what are you gonna be talking about tonight on BCT
after the Rockies game?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
A little bit my monologue about how Bud Black was
a scapegoat. You know, I think I got a good,
good eight minute monologue on that. So yeah, a little
bit of the schedule stuff, getting into some of that,
and then news of the day Broncos signed a couple
of tryout players from the mini camp and what that means,
and you know, end of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Sixth time in Broncos' history they play on Christmas Day
or night?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
What did we do to the scheduling gods on that one?
Got at Arrowhead?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh yeah, I mean the good news?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Did you get the de facto by after that game
late in the season.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
That's the only positive I'm taken out of that, because
you know, you're not playing the following Sunday, so you're
getting into the factory by to rest up that late
in the season.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What day of the week this year is Christmas Thursday?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Thursday?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh, it's the first literal Thursday night football.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So that that digs the next question, and we'll find
on the schedule coming to Wednesday night, is that the
second Thursday they end up playing or is that the
only Thursday because Christmas sometimes gets treated as a different.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Standartone something it does.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So will they get two Thursday night games this.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Year that I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't know either, and I don't think it will be.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Like I said, I was kind of hoping for that
Saturday game before that because the twentieth is going to
have NFL games on it. But the games we know
so far, the NFC from Fox, we don't know the
AFC games have gonna be played that day yet.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think the Jazz just didn't get the They did not.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
They did not they did not get Cooper flag that
the Jazz have the fifth pick.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Fifth pick, there are four picks remaining.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
You just you tanked, you got fined for tanking, and
you wound up with the fifth pick.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So San Antonio is still alive, Orlando's alive, Charlotte's Charlotte's alive,
and who's the fourth.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Seventy six ers.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Yep, they're showing it on the Well, you get Wemby
in flag on the same team.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I'm going to say right now, Philadelphia is gonna win
the top pick.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Okay, So you're saying that I should wave the white
flag on the Spurs getting then.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
No, I mean they're in it. They're one of the
top four. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I think
Philadelphia I just wanted.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
To squeeze a white flag. Did all that tanking to
get the fifth overall player?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Fined for it?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They got fined for it.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Zz owner is a female that I do not know
her last name. She was there and they showed her
when it was announced that Utah would have the fifth pick.
She looked like and Charlotte, by the way, as the
fourth pick. She looked like she had just had really
bad sushi.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Wow, it looks like it could.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Be the.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's gonna be Alice. They're gonna get They lost Lucas,
so they're going to get a new.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So it's not Dallas.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh, no, it is Dallas one. They get Cooper flag.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Dallas is the first pick.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
But that with Anthony Davis. I wonder if Nico looks
like a better GM right now, right now, Yes, he does.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
After the Cooper flag with Kyrie and a Dyes and
the rest of the West.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The amount of people thinking that this was staged, I
thought Philadelphia made more sense if it were rigged.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Philadelphia much much bigger market, but.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Uh lowest odds to win an NBA lottery one point
five two percent Maverick.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's the magic with I think it was
a shack here, wouldn't it when there were one point?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, whn't that? Whn't that shack? What was that?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Penny? Might have been shack?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, that's incredible, great job, Grant, appreciate you as always, Nick.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
We got Rockies baseball coming up next right here on
kat and ninety four one F M.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
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