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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Clean in the closet.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Clean.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's like, I'll take you.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
It's good. That's good man. It's hot, it is.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It is warm today, it's roasting it.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
I think it's like pleasantly warm based on what we've
the weather's been recently.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Today's too hot for you. It's too hot for me.
But you know, I think it's only to your point
in juxtaposition till last week or the previous couple of weeks,
because it's been so nice in the seventies, like peaking
in the seventies, and this was like mid eighties. We're
standing out in the sun for MANATORI.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
They camp is too high for you. Oh boy, really,
you know.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
That was melting melting me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
When you're standing outside, right and you're not really moving
around with shirt and.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The car and that's fine. Probably changed them a car, right, It's.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the most normal shirt I've
ever seen you in, so I mean it's just a
poloment just yeah, the way, that's a nice most normal shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Ohways, ever seeing you in it's a polo shirt. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's a solid color, you know, not these wild colors
and patterns.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's an achievement. Absolutely you had something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was clean, right, It's important.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, I I just don't think even my summer flannels,
I don't think I could have handled the flannel.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
In the eighty five eighty six.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's eighty seven degree weather out there and managedent mini
camp and I don't know. I do think that there's
something to covering your arms out there because you don't
want to get.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Too much suns.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I agree it's not good for you, but.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That would have been a stretch even for me and
I you know how I love a good flannel, I
really do. But he almost never catch me in a
flannel training camp, Like when we get the training camp.
Oh this is this is the uniform polos. Anyways, big
day today.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
The Broncos have signed J K. Dobbins. He's gonna get
here on a one year contract.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And we did find out after the fact because initially
was reported as a one year, five point through five
million dollar deal, but Pro Football Talk came out a
little bit later on saying it's a one year two
point seven four or five million dollar deal with two
and a half available in incentives.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So two and a half and in sentence, okay if
that's like playing time and the art is and you know, okay,
because I was when you said the two point We
remember we had this discussion yesterday what the Chargers happened
to exclusive rights.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't know exactly what.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Free agency tag that is, but he had to get
to that three point five number, so that's how they
kind of got him to the number with the incentives.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, I think it's We've been talking about this for
gosh a long time, so it's no surprise. And I
think the incentives will count towards the salary cap, so
in essence, it's not a guarantee, but it's a five
million dollar plus contract for him, and I think it
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gives him an opportunity. He's a silly young guy and JK.
Dobbins comes in here and has the kind of year
that he's if he's healthy, that he is certainly capable
of having. He's going to be in for a payday somewhere,
whether it's here in Denver or somewhere else next year.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So I think it's a good move.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I think it's a move that again, like since since
we started talking about maybe two weeks after the Buffalo game, Hey,
one of the Broncos need to do next year, which
I thought was a tab bit early, but the running
back room was one that I thought they would try
to address. They did it in the draft and now
they've done it in in veteran free agency as well.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, I think if you're JK. Dobbins, look you look
at the running back room and yeah, there might be
talent in the room, but a lot of uncertainty, right,
And when you get to the NFL, it's big boy football,
so he knows what it takes to go out here
week in, week out, and you know that rookie wall
is real and all.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The different things.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So I look at this, this sign in is like
the Broncos won and JK. Dobbins won because now you
get the opportunity to get back to the table next
year if you go out here and you could kind
of show Sean Payton, hey, you know I deserve to
be a part of the three hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Monster in the backfield.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Well, we went through the list yesterday. He was the
best by far far offside the roof.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That was available. And it's not to say that those
guys couldn't carve out roles. But I think today's point,
and he's twenty six years old, there's an opportunity, not
only for him to on a one year prove it
deal to do something here in Denver, maybe to cement
a bigger role and bigger contract into next year, maybe
with the Broncos, maybe with another team, but that there's
there's so many good reasons to do this, and I
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think watching him run last year, even though I think
by the end of the season, maybe after what did
we find out was a knee. No, it isn't a knee.
I think it was just it was a sprain of
some sort. But yeah, yeah, the sprain, so he did.
His production did fall a bit, but I don't think
that's anything to necessarily worry about. He's a tough runner, Dave.
(05:16):
You talked about it a ton of times. He's a
tough runner. He's great in pass pro.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's honestly, like low key.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Everybody will talk about what he's going to contribute to
the running game, but to elevate the level of pass
pro that you just did to that room, that should
not be over sold.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And kind of that's what we were all talking about
a couple of weeks ago, why the Broncos and Sean
Payton would be looking outside right now saying how can
we get better in that room because these young guys
are not proven when it comes to this pass protection,
it gets so much more complex as far as how
the offensive line is called in the front and formation,
where now the running back really has to be on
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his a game to pick up that blitz pick up
and there can't be any hesitation when you're going against
these there are two hundred and thirty five pounds they'll
run through your face. So you know, you just look
at all these different things, and I really believe that
it's going to get really exciting and really spicy this
training camp for the Broncos, because you know, if I'm
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in that room, I approach it like, hey, there are
reps to be had right now, because if I go
out there and take care of my business, like we're
all starting kind of even, and I could really emerge
as the guy that deserves the reps as the season progresses.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I think JK dobbins mindset coming in here is you
signed me to be the starter on a playoff contending team.
And oh, by the way, I get a face to
Chargers twice. I'm coming in here. I'm coming in here
to be the number one guy. I know you've got
a rookie running back. I'm going to help him in
any way I can. But I you know, I don't
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think he signed JK do. I mean, you have to
compete for the job. But I think just from a
club standpoint, you know, this was not a This was
not a signing that I think was a depth first signing.
This this was to increase the efficiency of the running
back room. And the only way you can do that
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is if you play. So to me, as I said yesterday,
I think it's Dobbins and Harvey. Now the club will
downplay that and they'll say, hey, there's Estimate Sillam, you
know in line here and we like Jalil McLaughlin and
Blake Watson did some good things.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And how about Tyler Bade.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Uh you know there's but but you have you have
a proven NFL back and he right now is the
only proven NFL back in your NFL running back room.
So I think from his standpoint, he comes in and says,
it's my job.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Now, I'm going to be ready to go and let's
go win some games.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The timing was pretty funny today because we got the
alert I think it was Tom Pelliserol had first. We
got the alert that he was signed literally moments before
Sean took the podium, and I think if Sean had
his way, that would have been something after he got
done at the podium response.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
That's what I'm saying, Like his response the entire way
through his like.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because the very first question is like, oh so it
looks like you signed JK Dobbs.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He's like, ah, we're close. I'll tell you tomorrow. And
then Chris.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Thomason trying to fire back, like, you know, maybe just
tell us about JK as far as his ability to
stay healthy and what he's done. He's like, yeah, it's
just like everybody else. And then and then later on
this was my favorite exchange. I think this was Zack
Stevens who was trying to talk about the running back room.
So again, credit our media for trying to veloci raptor
this thing and test the.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Perimeter of Sean Payton. He wasn't having any of it.
He talks a little bit about Padrick.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Don't start counting, No, don't start counting. Not are you
guys counting? And it's like, don't count because half you'll
be wrong. Just let's just see what they do.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm looking forward.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
To see how they play, and they're going to get opportunities.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I said it earlier, much earlier.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I said, look, Aldric's gonna get opportunities. All right, we've
seen Jalil, But don't try to figure out the club
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It's way too early. You can go ahead and try.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But it just wasn't having it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Did you ask that question?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I said that I think it was Zach.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, Zack.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
If Zach hadn't asked that question, would you have asked
that question?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I would have thought it. Yeah, yeah, I would have said.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They're like, well, let let's find another creative way to
ask the JK.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Dobbins question.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Hey, you know, the running back room is really interesting, coach,
how do you think that's sort of shaking out right now?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You got the same response.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Absolutely well, atleas.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I wouldn't have like pushed back and told him, well,
your best running back is actually this guy.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah that that sort of tactic has been tried, I remember,
not well received, But I think I think it's a
fair I mean, the media has a job to do.
They are inquisitive by nature. I get it from Sean's
standpoint to It's like Bro and Zach. Zach's one of
(10:22):
the good I think good reporters in our business in
this market. But Sean doesn't have any interest in trying
to figure out right now what's the pecking order of
your running back room so we can we can help.
I think the pecking order is going to I mean,
all these guys have to compete. You hope they get
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through training camp not not injured or somebody tweaks to him.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean, all the things that could happen.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
But if everything at the end of training camp from
a health standpoint is really good, as I said yesterday,
I think it's gonna be JK. Dobbins and RJ. Harvey
and after that, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know, looking at just the game of football, and
when you look at JK. Dobbins, I truly believe, like
what that young man has had to do in his
short career so far, being on two teams and being
drafted to Baltimore. It's a tough go at things, right,
you go to a division that's very physical with the
quarterback that is very uncharacteristic right as far as how
(11:30):
much he's going to run around and what.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He's going to do with his legs.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So you know that exposes you in certain situations where
you might be able to you might be a little
bit more injury prone. And like last year, we're harball
going out there to San France or to the Chargers
now and really kind of leaning all into what he
did to win the National championship there at Michigan, where
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we're kind of this run first team and we're going
to get it done in between the tackles. Like when
you get that injuries though, those lower body injuries, it
becomes harder to get back at. So you know, even
though there's been some injuries there in the past, I
look at the Broncos and Sean Payton's like where it's
like it's a far slate for JK. Dobbins and hey,
(12:15):
now a unique opportunity because you're not going to be
asked to do some of the things that you've had
to do so far. So now can you stay healthy
and can you also we know you're good at Blitt's
pick up. We know you could get out in the backfield,
but can you push these younger guys and get them
better and elevate that room while also saying, hey, you
(12:35):
know what, I'm twenty six, I could go sign me
forget these one year contracts that I just signed the
last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Let me go sign a three year deal after this
and go get some real money.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Which he could if he has that kind of year. Yeah,
which I think is the you know, we'll be anxious
to hear JK. Dobbins when he addresses the media. But
I think, to me, it has to be one of
the reasons, one of the reasons he signed here. It's
a one year deal. I mean, all backs, all players
would love to have three four year deal on a
(13:05):
lot of guaranteed money. But running back, the running back market,
it is what it is now after you know, the
draft and the early part of free agency. So for him,
I mean, he's got to be looking at this as hey,
I'm playing in an offense that is going to be diversified.
It's not as O said, We're not going to run
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power og fifteen times a game, although the Broncos do
run that some They're going to throw it to me
some good young quarterback, proven play caller, play designer, really
good defense I could have if I have a year
and stay healthy and put thirteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
On the boards.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
If the Broncos don't want to re sign me, somebody
will offer me a three year deal for you know,
thirty or twenty seven million dollars with twenty million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
After we saw the running backs this last year get
paid Saquon Barkley, Derek Henry, et cetera. I mean, yeah,
he's absolutely in that range and again still relatively young.
I thought, by the way, this was a really cool
answer from Sean Payton because he was asked about bon
Nix in the red zone. They finished practice today with
the red zone. I'd say overall, not a great day
for the first team offense. It felt like they were
trying some things out there, some timing stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Von Vailey was not at practice today.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Sean didn't really give us any insight on why he
wasn't there, but said it wasn't a big deal either way, but.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I thought this was an interesting answer.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
When he was talking about Bonnicks taking steps forward in
the first team offense, taking step forward in the red zone,
he talked about the run game.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So to your point, Dave.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Significance of the running game across to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You can't understate.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And so.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
All of that, you know, we look at in the
off season cell scout, what do we want add.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What do we want to remove, what can we do better?
And so I think his performance in.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
That area will improve as we do as a unit.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
As far as not giving us very much information, which
is usually the typical point for Sean Payton, that one
was a very telling answer, and especially in the light
of the JK.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Dobbins signing today.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
The expectation is this is going to be a better
team that can run. It can run better in the
red zone.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
He said that a lot last since he got here,
about how important the running game is in the red zone.
And I think, again, the signing of JK. Dobbins is
to me validation of what we've talked about. It didn't
really matter what we think, It matters what the coach
is out there and in particular what Sean Payton thinks.
(15:51):
But we've said before they weren't as efficient the running
game as they have to be. And I think there
were yards that were left on the field that maybe
you had that thing blocked up, and where you had
had it blocked up for like that should have been
a fourteen to seventeen yard run.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And it went for six.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Well, you know, and you say, well that's six yard
run on first down.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, but when you.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Go back and look at it, that's a fourteen to
seventeen yard run. And so when you evaluate the next
week or after the game, or certainly in the offseason,
you go back and chart, you know, were we efficient
in terms of, you know, meshing the run game blocking
schemes with how we saw visually from the running back position,
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and did we hit the correct hole?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Did we miss a cutback?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
And I just think they came the conclusion that they
were not good enough in that running back room. And
I would say looking at that team, calling every single game,
watching going back and looking at the all twenty two,
they just didn't have that oop at running back that
the good teams have to have.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh heck yeah, I mean I'm right there with you something.
When you get down there in the red area, you
got to make a hole sometimes at the running back position.
I remember getting the University of Miami and Javar's James
after James's little cousin. He literally kicked me one day
in my back and was like get out of the way,
like it's either you're moving this person or something, but
you cannot sit in this hole on the screen mohawk
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and no, I wanted to snap his neck. I look
absolutely a lazy eye. That left one you know, I
was over there, and the other one that again. But
when you get down there, you got to be able
to really appreciate what bow Knicks did this past year
because there was a little bit of success.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
In throwing the game and throwing the ball down there.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And I remember, like you play some of these teams
like a Baltimore or Pittspurt, some of these teams that
are known for their defense, or even like a Seattle
when they back then when they had the leader to boom.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I remember like Peyton Sanley, hey, like what are
our runs here?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Like could I check into because it's so much harder
down there, and when you get into the red area
throwing the ball. So if you could be an efficient
team and you could give bo Nicks like five plays
that held feels really really good in checking into down
in the red area, and you have the running backs
to get it done. Man, look out because you're going
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to dominate teams. And now defenders are just on their heels.
They can't step forward no more. They have no idea
what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
How much of last year's running game, just again, maybe
ten thousand fo of you or after the fact, was
on the coaching staff not having the kinds of running
backs they wanted, and how much of it was on
the running backs themselves?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Do you believe well coaching?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I mean coaches have who they have, right, I mean
the roster comes together and when training camp finally starts
and then the roster competes, then you're trying to you're
trying to figure out, like you know, Estimate was a
rookie like Watson was with the rookie uh Jalil.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Second or thirty.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Year so and you had Javonte, So you want you
wanted a bell cow and you wanted to be patient
with Javonte because he was coming off that knee injury.
The two years prior, and so he thought, maybe, Okay,
we drafted this guy in the second round, we want.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
To give him a chance.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Uh with what with this staff and how we design things,
we want to give him a chance. And maybe we
have to be a little patient with him because he
is he is, this is his you know, he did
have that, and we alter his running style a little bit.
You know, he looked good. He dropped the weight, which
was a big thing. So they wanted to give him
opportunities to sort of take take the lead, and it
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just it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It just wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
So it but it takes him a while because coaches
can can be impatient, but they can be really patient
to a fault with certain position and certain players. I
think and Javonte might have retrospectively, he might have been
an example of one that they wanted to come on
and it just just didn't work. So that's why again
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I think JK. Dobbins signing. I know, the Evan Ingram
signing was a big thing. You know, the two defensive
guys and Dre Greenlaw and Telenoah hufunga big big signings.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I'm telling you, I think the JK.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Dobbins signing could be as big as any player signed.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So far by the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I just love the fact that you're you're saying Huff's
name the right way, wearing Jim.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Let's go Rob Roli gerl tusday.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
We've got some more insights on today's practice.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
We'll get into.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That, plus some insight on what happened with college football
of the weekend. We'll get to that as well coming
up next. Kind of a tough night for your oilers.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So we go.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Why isn't my whelers? We already established us yesterday? Dave
established us. Say he's just rooting for any American You.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Walked back your original comments of rooting for any Canadian team.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
That's not my fault. That is not Dave's fault.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You are the one that is walking back your heritage.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And your quote in the bash arms are Ryan.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The original question that Dave had asked was, Hey, I
know some Canadians that they just root for anything Canadian?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Is that you?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I said that I root for the maple leafs than
the Colorado Appalanche, And then he asked, who do I
think is gonna win the Stanley tup and a cup
and I said, Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's not me.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Just going in with my heritage, that's me. And just
just by the way. I mean, when I used to
do my Monday night intros for Sunday or Sunday night
football intros, it was Orlando, Franklin, the U by the way,
by way of Toronto, Canada. If I was still in
the NFL today, I would just be saying the University
of Miami or the you because I've been here longer
(21:59):
now now then my Canadian roots, Like it's offset. I've
been here over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You're the one going on and on about poutine the
other day.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Poutine's great, don't you dare Well? I mean, if you're
ever in Canada, you.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Gotta try it, I would well, I will you hate
the poontein is Canada and Canada is as good as
it is here in America.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I just don't think that there's enough places that do it,
you know. I think with Canada, all across Canada, I
think you got to get out more.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
No, no, no, nope.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Is it because it's colder up there? Is that why
the Mountine's better?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
This is my thing right like here, like you go
to California, it's like, Okay, everywhere you go there's a
California Burritos spot.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Plenty of poontine in California, there is absolutely I lived
lived in San Diego for a couple years in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
But here's my thing, though, it's not all across all states,
like there's poon tine in every state, I'm pretty sure,
but you can't find it as a regular thing.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You can find a walking out the front door of
the iHeart Building, but that's.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
A Canadian thing though. We're out the front door where. Yeah,
you want me to get you some poontine?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, so I want you to show me where is
that like the front.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
That we got it?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
No, what? No, no, And I'll let's stop right before
I get myself from.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Your oilers Slash Nights had a bit of a tough nights,
and I'm sure there was a tough watch for you,
you know, watching for.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Sure, watching floor stopped taking some silly penalties.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Watching America, Watching Watch America.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Then I thought that whole entire Edmonton team took on
the persona of their goaltender. Stuart Skinner was horrible from
the first whistle all the way until he got pulled
there in the third period, but he was just the
soft goals that we were going in and not trucking
the punky. If he was like you yesterday, you know
how you showed up without missing the one contact. Yeah,
like I think Stuart showed up to the game yesterday
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missing a contact.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Because series it's been horrible, it's like easy goals. Yeah,
I mean this is the Stanley Cup Finals, right, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And then you get Walman trying to get into a
little scuffle because of the cross check, and you can
give a nice five.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
On five bro now for what that was. That is
actually a cool thing today.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
You know again, Dave, you you did think Edmonton last
night was gonna Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I thought I thought Edmonton could keep it close, and
I thought I'd jump out to a big lead on
this Tuesday. And I'm actually owned to But I did
pick Florida. You did in the series. You thought they
were underdog, You thought Florida win. Yep, you just I
still think Listen, I still think even though last night
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was an ass whooping of extraordinary proportion, next the next
game if Edmonton is and I think they probably are,
if they've got any sort of competitive, competitive sort of
thing to them and the best player in the world
and then another guy who's probably when the top two
or three best players in the world. I would say
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they'll come out and that will be a tooth and
nail battle.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's just two things.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You got to get better goaltending, and you got to
get out of your feelings. Like I thought Edmonton showed
like this whole like wam like I'm pissed off, Like
the cross check was too hard, the forge hey referee,
like get out of the way, like just get down
and playing hockey. And if they do that, they can
hopefully they can make this thing competitive. But after watching
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last night, I threw up in my mouth a little
bit after a couple of those goals.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Maybe maybe you done your oilers jersey and you go
get them a fire off.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I got a maple loose one.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
They probably will let you the locker room that you no.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
The owner gave it to me. Franklin on the bag
got to drop the puck back in two thousand and thirty.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
There you go, a thinks cooler throwing on a first
pitch or dropping the puck.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I think I mean, I'm more of a hockey guy
guy throw baseball.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, dropping the pockets, Yeah, that was to day. What
do you think we're throwing first pitch your baseball talking.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
About dropping the pucket? Is Stanley Cup? No, it's a
regular game.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, I think I think it would depict you mean,
for to do either one cool?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I think it would well.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Listen, I'm not a hockey guy in that I never played,
but I and I love baseball, played baseball my most
of my life. But I think dropping the puck at
a Stanley Cup game that would be that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
A Stanley Cup game sick Yeah, top five moments, it
would be right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, speaking of trash talking, it's a trash talking big.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I thought this was go ahead, like throwing a pitch
like that's embarrassing, Like you could just embarrass yourself, Like
that's like.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Really you think, like you think there's people that actually,
with the way they throw the ball, actually could embarrass them.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So I would love to see Ryan throw it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Video video I threw out the first pitch of the
Rockies game.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Really on the internet somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, I've tried to delete all of them, but it's
I think I think it's with Carl Lewis and somebody
else I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It might have been Cardi B, Cardi B.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, that's right, just the all time worst first pitches.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
No, well, it wasn't that bad, Dave. Well, no, her,
Oh that's not that bad, right. Booty blasted that thing. Update.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
She threw it hard, hard, hard. It wasn't all that accurate,
but she threw it hard. I mean it wasn't as
good as bon Nicks. I will say that my first pitch.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
We knew bo Nicks was going to be pretty Yeah.
I mean I just get a little scared. I've seen
the ball. It's kind of slip out of people's hands.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
This kind of goes wild.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
It's an intimidating deal.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I mean, dropping the buck, You're just like, hey, here
we go. There's no pressure, just drop that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Big It's so cool though. Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
He speaking of trash talk, I thought this was We'll
come back to this on the other side. Brandon Jones
was talking today about the trash talking that the defense
is doing with the offense, specifically bone Nicks.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I never wanted to be a part or you know,
somewhere where a quarterback is kind of shy and to himself.
I think if a quarterback can show that, you know,
kind of dog mentality, that always goes a long way
for me, and it keeps us battling, you know, keeps
the competition of super healthy and very competitive.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So I've liked what I've seen from me. I'm at
that point.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, there's a lot of barking back and forth, and
we're in mandatory mini camp at this point, but there
is a lot of barking.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
There's kind of a funny, sort.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Of funny moment.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
There's a pick six today. Bonix was targeting wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
He was?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You know, I had Cordy Jackson at courting Jackson.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So to targeting courting Jackson went off his hands into
the hands of Jawan McMillan.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
He ran it back for a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
But Bonix chased him out of bounds. Who got the
ball out of his hands? Like as j J Kain
McMillan is celebrating off to the sideline and everything Bonix
is running, he's trying to swap the ball out. There
is a healthy camaraderie in battle every single day, which
is great.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh no doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
If you're the quarterback and you you make the decision
that you're going to trash talk your defense, you better
know that they're coming for you every single day and
they're looking for opportunities now because you can't hit him,
So what you could get up in his face and
you could talk some smack to him, for sure, I'll
tell you all time. Funny moment Peyton man and throws
like a little angle route to Wes Welker. We're playing
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against the Houston Texans. West gets a concussion. This is
preseason and DJ swearing You're just like like, Peyton literally
runs up to DJ Swearinger and he gets playing safety
for the Texans, and DJ's like, man, what do you
expect me to do? Pete? Peyton like if you throw
it to him, gonna hit him, things like, man, I
don't even know who you are. And Peyton just turned
around and jogged away, and like the whole Texans defenses
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looked at because he was like all week, just chirping
the whole entire time, and Peyton humbled the heck out
of him. But you gotta love when a quarterback is
willing to talk some smack because you know that he
better be in his bag at that point.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah, I'm a big fan. Was that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I mean, I hate to say that it's everything, because
it's certainly not. But it's a healthy sign. I think
of in and out of camp days when the defense
and offense can have their wins and they can also
talk a little trust.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's as long as the only thing
you worry about and you don't want to see is
it carries off off the field, right, But.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You want, I mean, you want a little bit of that.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
You want your defense to try to kick the offense's
ass every single day in practice, and then when they do,
let them know about it. That's I mean, I don't
think there's been a great defense, maybe not even a
really good defense in the NFL that doesn't have that
sort of characteristic to him. And you also, conversely, and
not every quarterback is like that. You want that young
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quarterback that gets after you a little bit, like, hey,
you know what, we just with the ball down the
field and scored and we're fixed and go back at
the twenty and line up and do exactly the same thing,
and you guys can't stop it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I mean, you want, you want that, I think as
a team, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Are from Bronco's practice today on defense, I want to
get too. Coming up here at the top of there,
Do you guys see what Schamarsh Stewart said today. The
rookie outside Yeah, the rookie outside linebacker for the Bengals,
I mean those men. He's not practicing because they haven't
got his deal done. He's not happy with the language
in it because again, your first round pick, it's all
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slotted way.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I don't think Johnny Barns signed either, just yet. Something
to keep him in mind, but he's out there to practice.
No worries there.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Shamar Stewart also holding out a mandatory mini camp. Here's
the quote. I'm one hundred percent right. It should be
a no brainer in Trey's case. Talking about Trey Hendrickson
and Trey's case, it should be a no brainer too.
I'm not asking for nothing y'all have never done before.
But y'all the Bengals just want to win arguments more
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than winning games. In my opinion, Jesus.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
A rookie, wow, hasn't even done a single thing in
this league.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I was stunned and again, you're frustrated me certainly frustrated.
Aaron Greements is like that. But yeah, but y'all the
Bengals just want to win arguments more than winning games.
In my opinion, what was.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Your reaction to that, Dave, I'm not so sure the
sentiment doesn't have a little bit of truth to it.
But you don't as a rookie, you don't. You don't
say that, especially you're not even in camp. Even if
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you were in camp. So my reaction would be that
a veteran who has respect or veterans who have respect
on the team probably pull him aside and say, yo,
how about you.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Have a sip A, shut the hell up? How about that.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
We don't need, we don't need to hear from you
right now, get your business taken care of. We'll see
when you come to camp. Other than that, we don't
want to hear. We don't hear from you to me.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
This is the other problem with n I l like
what you empower some of these college kids with and
how they're able to go about their business and then oh,
here you go, surprise, here's the NFL. Like I would
will be shocked if what Dave's talking about some of
these veteran guys. Yeah, that's the nice way, like they
what Dave's talking about, Like the hell up, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The nice way to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Like I know some veterans that would have got after
you every single day.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's a point where you want to fight.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
You feel like you're being picked on, Like this young
man doesn't even know that people have the people in
that organization or even the player that have came before,
and yet you don't even know if you're going to
be successful in the National Football League. There's a reason
why the average is three and a half years. The
NFL is constantly trying to push players out. And this
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is how you're going to talk about the organization that
said we believe in you, and there's given you the
opportunity now to go out there and show that you
can play at this level and you know, give you
that generational wealth. I kind of blame this on an Il,
and I just think that, you know, an Il is
allowing these kids to kind of think that they have
arrived where every single year and every single day we're
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seeing people wash out of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Does he have a point though?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, the Bengals historically have been one of the
more squarely teams when it.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Comes to contracts.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I mean, we've bet Alfred in here telling us about
his rookie year and the contract that he ended up
doing there.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So I mean, maybe he.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Does have a point, but you probably still don't say
it as a rookie, do you.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
No, you don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Nobody in a NFL locker room has any interest in
hearing a rookie opened his pie hole and talk about
anything other than man, listen, I'm happy to be here.
I'm gonna do everything I can to help this team win.
Thank you, move on.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
These are guys that have been there forever. And I
would say this, the Bengals have notoriously been a cheap
franchise when it comes to sort of how they deal
with certain players. They haven't been cheap with Joe Burrow.
They have been cheap with Jamar Chase, they haven't been
cheap with t Higgins. They're being, I think, unreasonably cheap
with Trey Hendrickson. But I think also the Bengals would
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be able to push back on my comment and say, huh, okay,
so we've.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Been to a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Could make the case we easily should have won, which
is true. We've been to another AFC Championship game. All
of those things have happened within the last five or
six years. So what do you what are you guys
talking about in Denver? You know, I mean that that's
just real. I mean, I played for the Browns for
a long time. You damn sure don't hear me talking
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about anything connected with Cincinnati. When it comes to they
can look at anybody that has any connection with the
Cleveland Browns to say, wait, what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
What you when's the last time? When's the last Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Y'all been too, So you know, you have to keep
everything in its proper perspective.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Here's here's my thing, really quickly.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
It's the first contract, though, like all this stuff is
kind of set in stone as far as how this agnoledge.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, like I can understand.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
If you're making these comments and you're on your second
contract or you go for extension and now you're battled
and now wait, it's your first Like everybody's slotted and
it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I don't know, it's weird.