11-14-25 KOA Sports Hour 3 with Nate Jackson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
He rows are Kawai Commas Spirit health text line. We

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got Broncos country tonight coming up here at the top
of the air. We gotta see you, see you Buffs
men's basketball. See if that's multiple times, see you Buffs
men's basketball coming up at six thirty tonight tip at seven.
So all that still ahead, we will we'll get to
a little more in this game. We have a couple
more thoughts on the matchups for the Broncos and the Chiefs.

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Want to get to that here in just second or reminder,
we have our coach's corner coming up at five thirty tonight,
So we have a voice of the Broncos, Dave Logan,
head coach Sean Payton breaking down a play from the
last game.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So that'll be the touchdown to Troy Franklin, I believe.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And then right after that, I will give you a
cue call and you're gonna have a chance to win
Broncos Packers tickets.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So that's coming up. So before we get back into
the game.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Last night during Thursday Night Football, right before Thursday Night Football,
Ian Rappaport said something kind of interesting, and you know,
there's this what they say versus what they do right.
So what they say, what the Broncos have been saying,
is they love the receiver corps. They like these guys,
they feel great about their In fact, they traded Davon

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Vley because they liked these guys so much. Well, come
to find out in the off season they were a
finalist for Stefon Diggs.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Very interesting. Here was the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Signing Sevan Diggs was the end of a decades long
quest for Mike Rayble, who did get him, by the way,
three year, sixty nine million dollar deal.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Rabel recruited Digs.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Out of high school and he was an assist at
Ohio State, didn't get him, was mad about it. When
Diggs became available to Spring, his agent sent video to
the Patriots just three months after the ACL tear. He
was running cutting good, sign ahead of schedule. It came
down to the Broncos or Patriots. Five months from passing
a physical. The Patriots signed them. A big time leap

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of faith.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, So when you hear that, what is your what's
your reaction to that?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Because and I don't know, like what that would have
meant for Saint Cortland Sutton, who at that point time
hadn't gotten his extension yet. This would have been March,
right when when he ended up getting his three or
sixty nine million dollar contract with the Patriots that was
in March.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
So and twenty six million I think is guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
So if you it certainly changes kind of the discussion
about what this receiving room looks like. I mean, Stefan
Diggs went healthy and he's been very good for Drake
May in the New England Patriots. Are you frustrated that
the Broncos didn't pull the trigger and get that done
or are you okay because you think that the Broncos
are ultimately going to be okay and maybe Stefan Diggs,

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who was at that time considered a bit of a
locker room cancer coming off of the Houston experience and
the Buffalo Bills, you're ultimately okay they didn't bring him in.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm okay they didn't bring him in.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think he's playing probably better than a lot of
people thought he might. You know, coming off in ACL
two is also a question marks an older player. What
he's probably you know, in his thirties, has had some
off the field issues or locker room type of issues. Yeah,
I think that's something that maybe you don't do when
you're still trying to build the culture. You know, it's
something and I know Mike Rabel that they're doing that

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because he knows him and he believes in him, and
then that kind of thing. A really good player can
run every route in the route tree. He's a number
one receiver. And so how would that have messed with
Courtland Sutton? I think you know, you probably would have
said goodbye to Courtland Sutton if you kept them both
a lah Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase, that would have
pretty been a dynamic duo. Would that have changed the

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way the offense looks and the way you're calling plays?
I hope, but you don't know. So I think that
Stephan Diggs was maybe too much of a question mark
to bring him in and ink him to a long term,
big deal like that.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think I'm probably okay too.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
And I feel like the New England Patriots, well, they
really needed a guy like this, right considering what their
receiving corps was, and you got a second year player
with the rookie contract with your quarterback, and he needed
something to be able to lean on. And Steffan Diggs
win healthy is absolutely one of those guys you'd be
banking on that. I don't want to sound like copium though,

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right because that's kind of what it feels like, because
Stefon Diggs would make you better, like healthy. Steffan Diggs
makes this receiver room better. There's really no argue around it.
He's a one, and I don't know if we have
one right now. I don't know if the Broncos have
a one. And that's not not Corland Sex. They actually
have been a big fan of his for a very
long time. It's just to see several weeks now in

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a row where he's not a big factor in the
offense and love that's Courtland's fault. Okay, you know, I
think bo is maybe moving off of Courtland a little
bit quick. I know that Champayne has talked about how
Courtland's getting some combination coverages that are making it difficult.
But Cortland Sutton's the type of player who can catch
the ball. If you throw it to him, you're not
throwing it to him. I mean Troy Franklin is leading

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the team in targets and he had he doubled him
up last week. I mean you're just not trying hard enough,
in my opinion, to get Courtland.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Sutton the ball. We've seen games where he's clearly a
number one receiver. He looks like it, right, I mean,
does he have a quick twitch ability that Stefan Diggs
has to run every sort of route in the book? No,
but neither did Tarreall Owans. He wasn't in every single
route kind of guy. He was a dominant, physical, big
receiver who can move guys out of the way and
go up and catch the ball and make guys miss. Now,

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the thing that's different between Taral Loans and Cortland Sutton.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is the run after the catch.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Tarry Loans would turn into, you know, a beast to
bring down like Brandon Marshall would, right, and Cortland Sutton
seems to have not unlocked that part of his game.
He's bigger and stronger than everybody who's covering him, and
to me, I'd like to see him become more of
an aggressive runner after the catch, use that offhand as
a weapon and make yourself really difficult to bring down.

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See yourself as a fighter at that point, You're not
gonna bring me down. And so in that regard, I
wish our number one guy was breaking more tackles and
had more yards after the catch. Cortland Sutton doesn't seem
to be having that. That said, I do think he
has a potential of being an number one. We'll get
to this offseason. What's going to be your biggest priority
for this offense. I want a tight end who can

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do it do it all, okay, you know, I think
that's really important.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I could be.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
That the tight end for me is kind of the
hinge between the running game and the passing game.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And if he can only run block.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well and he's not a good pass catcher, or he
can only pass catch well he's not a good run blocker,
that limits what you do you have to it's a
tel every time is having Ingram like tecking anyone?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know, are you feeling like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
No, you kind of know that he's on there and
trying to get him the ball, But what about running
right at him and if an Ingram making a you know,
a game change and block.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean Pat Bryant's doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
M hm. And so I think that getting a tight
end who's an every down run blocking, pass catching guy
would be the priority.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Okay, yeah, I get behind that. I watching Tyler Warren
with the Colts this year, man, and what's great about
him and it makes me really appreciate good coaching, which
I think they really have good coaching out there in
Indianapolis is they're using him exactly as he was used
in Pitt State, right like they line u him in

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the backfield, they move all over the formation like he's
sometimes in the wildcat like that.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's coaching right there.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
It's like, hey, we see what you did in college,
and we're not going to bring you in here and
try to formulate you to what we think the idea
of a tight end is, which drives me crazy sometimes
when coaches have, no, this is our scheme, you're going
to fit us. We drafted you with the talent that
we believe you can ascend to what we do, instead
of working with what you do and saying no, what

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you did in college actually is pretty awesome and we're
gonna go ahead and utilize that. And he might win
Offensive Rookie of the Year as a result of it.
So that for me is exciting to see when a
player that is really that highly touted and was doing
so much at Penn State. They bring him into the
pros and say, why don't you just do the same thing.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, but he's already complete player. Well, I mean there's
to an extent. I mean, obviously he's gonna he's going
to improve. But did you understand my point?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Like sometimes you get coaches who say, well, no, are titands.
They have to be prolific block blockers. Now he is
a good blocker already, right, But sometimes you get these
receiving tight ends that are really good in college and
it's like you bring them in with the coaches and
they say, hey, you won't see the field until you're
a prolific blocker.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, that's because there's a reason for it, because you
become easy.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
To cover.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
I mean, you, Kyle Pitts, was it number five, pick
number four?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
You you can't just split him out and throwing the
ball all the time. It doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
They tried it, and their offense suffered because of his
one dimensional nature. He can't be here every down tight
end you have to be able to block. And so
I actually, you know, I made that transition from receiver
to tight end, and so I understand that process. I
understand how difficult it is, but I also understand how
important it is to have your guy who's your pass

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catching tight end.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Now, he doesn't have to.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Be a road grading mark type of blocker, okay, but
he does need to be serviceable. You do need to
be able to trust him to make a block on
the play side on a linebacker or a defensive end. He
needs to be able to do that, and if you can't,
then he is a liability in the run game. And
so he comes off the field and guess what. The

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other team knows what you're doing. And that's why guys
like the Bills, who have two capable of receiving tight
ends but also capable blockers, we're able to gash the
Chiefs and are able to get a lot of movement
because you don't know what we're doing. We might run it,
we might throw it, and if I'm on the field,

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it's not an indication.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Of what we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
And Evan Ingram Adam Troutman, those tight ends right now,
they kind of wherever they are, it kind of shows
you what they're doing and what they're not doing.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay, I can kind of get behind that.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I still think about like Julius Thomas and having back
to back twelve touchdown seasons and not a guy that
wants to block.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's an anomaly.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
And the trunching, yeah, those are just like three you know.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
And but like George Kittle, oh he blocks.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, elites, he's the model because
and I think that's what most coaches want, is that
because he's such a good run blocker and he devotes
himself to it, that the play action pass he opens
wide up because you think I'm about to block you
because I have been, and then all of a sudden,
I slipped by you and im and I'm wide open.
You know, like Travis Kelcey's role on that team is

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not normal. I mean that's not what they what most
teams ask a tight end to do. And you know
the same with Julius Thomas, the same with Jimmy Graham.
I think the tried and true traditional model and it
works if having a tight end be able to do both.
So you don't know what we're doing for this game
coming up on Sunday, So we know JK.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Dobbins is going to be out and Perry and Rapapor
our NFL Network insider, he says that it's a significant
foot injury and to believe to be out for the
foreseeable future. So looks like ir might be a possibility here.
Doesn't sound like it's gonna be season ending, which is
fantastic because they're gonna need him whatever whatever happens this weekend.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
The Broncos are a playoff team and they're gonna need JK. Dobbins.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Now, hopefully maybe you get an RJ. Harvey like resistance
over the next few weeks. What we're seeing like Trayvon
Henderson out there with the New England Patriots, where just
the guy could not get He couldn't buy a touch
in that offense. Some weeks it was all Ramondre Stevenson. Well,
Ramondre Stevenson went down, and all of a sudden, Trayvon
Henderson has five touchdowns over the last two weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I think RJ.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Harvey's got that kind of talent. I'm very excited to
see what RJ. Harvey can do in this offense. But
I want to ask you this question about this weekend. Specifically,
you have Alex Singleton, you have JK. Dobbins, you have
pats Er Tan, we could include Nate Adkins in there,
but we'll stay with those three. Of those three, which
one are they gonna miss the most this Sunday?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know, I think it's gonna be JK. Dobbins. Okay,
R J.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Harvey still a rookie, but you know, it doesn't have
time to be a rookie. It's almost like, hey, you're
not a rookie anymore. Second half of the season, we're
going to rely on you. But but we've never seen
him be relied upon to be the the bell cow.
And I think that to beat the Chiefs, you've gotta
have to do some of that. I wanted to see
him get twenty carries. I think he needs to get
at least fifteen. Will Sean Payton have the patience to

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do that? And will he be able to hold up
between the tackles like that? You know, he's kind of
a smaller guy. He's pretty well built, but we haven't
seen him do that. Stocky, stocky. But I'm tended to
say Alex Singleton because he's everywhere, and I know he's,
you know, taking some flack for his cover skills. He
got beat a couple of times by running back out
of the backfield, but he's.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Still a tackling machine.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
He's top five in the NFL and tackling the green dot,
which you don't want to. You know, we can't underestimate
the importance of the signal caller, the guy who's getting
everyone lined up, the guy who's communicating the message to
play all that stuff and the calls. So the defense,
they got to put a new green dot on a
new helmet. I imagine it's going to be Justin stern
Ed or is it Dre Greenlaw I don't know, but

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that changes things a little bit on the defense. And
the defense has been playing so well, So you're changing
the chemistry a little bit of the defense, not just
by pulling Alex off the field, but also giving the
green dot to someone else. But I still think that JK.
Dobbins is the guy they're going to miss the most. Okay,
there's no like right or wrong.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I think it's all kind of, you know, shades of
I mean, the fact is that you didn't go to
the best defensive player in the league.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Well, just for the last two weeks, they've been good
without them, they have and so and so it's like
clearly they've been able to you know, the depth in
that room has proven itself. They'll be really happy when
he comes back. But these other two are unknowns, you know,
the JK. Dobbins miss and Alex Singleton.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's exactly right now.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I do wonder and I was asking this to Ben
and Dave yesterday about the unknown and how much that
can be maybe turned into an advantage. You perfectly laid
it out why it's a disadvantage. I'm not going to
try to pretend it's not, but for an advantage of
your opponent not knowing what you look like with the
about those things, right, not knowing what RJ. Harvey looks
like with maybe fifteen carries running between the tackles.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You'd have to go back to UCF really to get that.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And he had one game with the Dallas Cowboys where
he carried it fourteen times, which was nice for him
to get that work. But they're resulting away the game
at that point. It's just good to see him out
there getting some opportunities. But you weren't running with intention,
with intention to win the game or I mean, because
that game has been decided already that point.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
So the unknown of RJ.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Harvey, the unknown of it's going to be Drake Greenlaw
for a lot of the game. In fact, maybe even
one hundred percent of sixty two percent this last week.
It's going to be a lot of justice sur not
So there's some unknown parts about this. Does that help
you from a competitive advantage perspective versus the Chiefs in
their preparation?

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think so, but maybe not a ton. I mean,
these coaches have been around a long time. There's tape
on all these guys. Maybe I think RJ. Harvey probably
the unknown there is a bit of an advantage. But
justin Surna has played a lot. You know, Drake green
Law missed so much this season and Dre played a lot.
You know, they know his what his skill set is.
He's a thumper, he's a flash, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Bang.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
So I think that that R. J. Harvey can catch
him by surprise a little bit. And I think particularly
him running the football, they're aware that he's gonna come
out of the backfield and be a dynamics pass catcher.
He's done that a couple of times this year. I
know he had a long touchdown run as well, but
they haven't seen him.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They haven't seen if he can wear down a defense.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, they know, they haven't seen how he's going
to be in the third and the fourth quarter, what
his motor is like when he's heavily involved, you know,
when they're feeding him, like all these running backs want
to be fit. That is an unknown and that could
catch him by surprise. I mean, that's the hope.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm not I'm not trying to promote something that's like
not physically possible. I'm just saying that the under the circumstances,
you always look for competitive edges where you can get them,
and I honestly there was one that I was really
hoping the.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Froncos would use this week, which is gives pascertain a
limited practice list him is questionable on Friday. It would
have been interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, you're from it, Joseph this week and even
last week he said, Hey, it's difficult to think prepare
because we are a different defense without passer Tan and
those are different reps to see out of our group
and what we're going to present to.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
The Chief's offense.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
You wanted to see him perhaps play or just be listed,
just listed, because then that just one more thing the
Chiefs have.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
To pay attention to and think about. And it kind
of goes back to Sean Payton talking about DeMarcus Ware.
He tells the story multiple times about how we didn't
prepare for DeMarcus and we didn't think he was going
to play, and then all of a sudden he comes
running out of the tunnel on game day and he
plays in the game, and he got all these sacks
and all these pressures, And we didn't prepare for DeMarcus
Ware because we thought he wasn't going to play, and
so there was a little bit of gamesmanship hope in

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my opinion, or hope that they would be like Pascertan,
even though we knew he wasn't going to play, that
he would just get a limited practice in, which is
you know, conditioning, maybe just maybe just take North of
conditioning and then listenm is questionable or even doubtful, honestly,
like just a little bit of hint there for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
To have to think about it. It must mean he's
not close.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
No, and we talked to him earlier and it sounds
like he's feeling better. Yeah, But this was always in
my opinion through the bye like this was like maybe
you get him back for the Washington game.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
That would be kind of the hope.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Well, a huge challenge for the secondary without him or
with him. You know, Patrick Mahomes is able to extend
these plays. And they got a lot of speedy guys
out there and not no real true number one receiver.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know you got you gotta focus on.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
All these guys, including Travis Kelsey, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, we'll come back. We got our coaches corner.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Plus right after your chance to win Broncos Packers tickets,
We'll get to that next.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Because it was in the midst of the.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Chiefs winning streak and Alfred was trying to make the
point that this it's supposed to end. This is going
to end eventually, and then he said something like, I
was not gonna win this week, and I think they did.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
In the beating the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Unfortunately there but the Broncos with Russell Wilson snapped the
Street twenty four to nine a couple of years ago. Seeah,
I have that over your head. And of course the
Broncos split with him last year. Chief didn't need the
second game, so it's not real. It's a win, but
it's not like a real win. It would have been
great to sweep them last year that block field goal.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, but he's right, the.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Broncos have been a team that has won those close games,
at least as of recently.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's even if it's does well, I mean they lost
the two. Yeah, they'd be undefeated.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, they're six and two in one score games and
in the field goal operation. Could be come down to
the could come down to the special teams.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
You know, last week.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Crosshaw had a tough you did a tough game. Some
people calling him cross Ink. Well, tomorrow Sunday might be
cross Ink redemption.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You're not calling them Crosshank, right, that would be something
you would ever say.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, No, it's fun as a journalist. You can say
some people are saying some people are saying this many
and then say whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
A lot of folks are saying, no, I mean he
has an issue with the way he's dropping the ball
for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I heard that earlier this week.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
But he's got a fantastic leg. He'll clean that up.
But it could come down to the kicking. Game, could
come down to cross Shawn, and it could come down
to Lutz.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
You moot, that's right? Stright? Why Okay? So as promised
that was really good. Grant.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
We have our coach's corner here, Voice of the Broncos
Dave Logan along with head coach Sean Payton, breaking out
of play from the last week's game, which is the
touchdown Detroy Franklin. And after this, I'll give you a
cute call for your chance to win Broncos Packers tickets.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
But without further ado, here we go with coach's corner.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Nicks drops back, throws the ball to the end though
the passes time and that is a Denver touchdown. Probably
Franklin with the catch at the gold line and he
had Eric Stokes on his back, So Sean, obviously that
was a big play. It puts you guys into a
position to tie the game up. Just talk to us
a little bit about that call.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, it's it's actually called fifty three upright rail double cross,
and so you try to float a zone. Suton's got
the big baseline upright, and you have a rail that
first crosser and then it's the second crosser that you're
trying to get open.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
The thing.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
That was impressive there, and I really like how the
quarterback climbed the pocket all right and made the throw
because that's where that's where the pocket unfolded, and so
it was. It was one of those moments where I'm like, man,
there it is. You know it's in the gun five
climb and then making that throw in a tight window

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to Troy. That was an important play.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
I mean ballplacement too, because you mean hit him where
Troy could catch it and also kind of contain the ball.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
That's right, that's right, and it's it would be you know,
there's certain I think I think people think you give
new play. That would be a play that's up every
week from an oddball formation and yet the reads and
the you know there's a progression, but upright rail double
cross would be one of our staples and uh and
the timing of it and everything worked out just how

(21:19):
you wanted it to.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Okay, it's good enough, all right? Appreciation yep, all right,
really good stuff. Enjoy those.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Every single week we had an opportunity to play well,
it was the Broncos Dave Logan and head coach Sean
Payton breaking down a play right now.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
We call her number nine. The Broncos are going for
the ninth win.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
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Speaker 2 (21:40):
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Speaker 1 (21:41):
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Speaker 2 (21:51):
And again, this is Broncos Packers.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
We had somebody win tickets last week and they thought
it was for a different game.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
So this is.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
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call he number nine three or three seven one three
eighty five eighty five. Yeah, they call back and they're like, well,
I can't go to that game. I'm like, oh, you
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good luck, good luck. We love that we can do
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Speaker 2 (22:20):
So what did you think about that breakdown? What did
you learn from that?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, it seemed like bread and butter play crossing, you know,
crossing routes, holding the safety, flooding his zone, normal passing
game stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's good that the quarterback stepped up. I don't know
why I didn't call him bow because he called Troy Troy.
It's this weird thing. The quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback. To me,
it's like he's having a hard time saying his name
right now. What do you think that is? The tension?
There's tension there. Okay, there's a tension there.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
He stepped He talked about him stepping up in.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
The pocket, which he did really nicely on that play.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Bo has had a tendency to bail out a little
bit early to the right when he gets pressure, and
maybe he's sensing pressure a little too soon, and so
I think that's probably been a lot of the you know,
the difficult conversations that they've been having together is staying
in that pocket. So that's probably why they wanted to
talk about that play because it was the time that
he did what he was coached to do, step up
in the pocket and deliver the ball. He delivered an accurate,

(23:17):
really nice ball to Troy. But that was like their
only cool play, you know, in the game, and that
was their only touchdown and so they got to have
a lot more of those this week. But you can
sense I can sense a bit of tension there between
Sean and his quarterback, which happens when you're not clicking.
And you know, Sean was an ex quarterback, and so

(23:39):
those ex quarterbacks who had some success and are now
coaches are really hard on the young quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And I just hope that they're able to work.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
This out because they're eight and too, they're in first place.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't know what to do with it, to be honest,
I'll say, let's just roll with it for a second,
saying there is some tension and on some of you
can kind of understand why because it looks like it,
Like from our just watching the games, it looks like it.
You sort of think like internally, you'd find a way
to figure it out because you are a winning team,

(24:12):
you've had success.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Sean hand picked the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
This is like his guy bet his legacy on it
in a lot of ways, never drafted the first front quarterback.
So like, what's the deal, Like, well, I think that's
that's the deal, is that he did bet on it.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
He did risk his legacy for this kid, for this kid.
And so when this kid is not performing up to
the standard, and this kid is getting excoriated in the
national media, and this kid is a subject of these conversations,
about why he's not playing well in the Broncos offense
is being carried by the defense.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And I think Sean picked Sean pertin.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Sean Payton hears every single one of those criticism.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
He says to be very plugged into these things.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
He is, and so I think he's internalizing that and
instead of, you know, the supportive sort of we're going.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
To get this.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
I believe in you, we got this, let's figure it out.
We're on the same page. I believe you know, we're
doing this together. There becomes a sort of adversarial relationship
there where nothing is good enough and there's always tension,
and every time we're watching film, I'm picking it apart.
And it's not like I'm not talking about the good
stuff you're doing anymore. I'm really just talking about the
stuff you're screwing up and then off. And then the
style of communication matters too. The words I choose to

(25:28):
use to coach you up well more often than not
affect the way you take it. And if someone's being
and I don't know, I don't know, I'm not in
those rooms, right, but.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
So those just a cold kind of the quarterback, Yeah,
the quarterback, and and some coaches do that.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
They kind of objectify the player and they'll the player,
they'll call him the player. Josh McDaniels used to do that.
Now he's a good coordinator, bad head coach.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I want them to patch this, and nothing will do
that better than a big offensive explosion.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Everything working. Let's get back on.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
The same page, you know, because these are two men
who need to find a way to work together.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Quickly before we hit traffic here.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
YouTube TV and Disney have agreed to a deal that
will restore ESPN and other channels to the service.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, how about that immediately?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
That's what it sounds like. They came to a deal. Yeah,
so for all the people that are I mean, I
was too busy to look into it, but I've been
concerned by it. There's no ESPN two weeks now, two
weeks move without Wow, so's it's happened on a Friday.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Five forty eight nights. How about that? All right, we'll
be right back on the other side.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
We got show me the money, Broncos Country to Night
come at the top of the art. There's a little
bit we'll snip it from Susie Warrigen's sideline stories with
your bulls talking about it.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
The heroes are the ones that give us this freedom
to live in this beautiful country and be a to
play football, and without them, we want to be where
we're at. So it's definitely a surreal moment for me
and it's definitely a very you know, it gets me going,
gives me the juice and to be able to go
out there and play the game.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
I love you.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Ever thought about what branch you would go into if
you had gone into the military, would.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
Definitely be a Navy seal for sure. Yeah, some top
of a Special Forces.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Benjamin Albright jonas the real hero. Gosh, yeah, you're the
real hero.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, it's fine, no need to Did you ever consider
anything besides army?

Speaker 8 (27:33):
Oh yeah, actually initially Air Force? But you know, in
order to be a pilot you got to go through
the four year you know, and then you got to
be a certain weight and all that kind of stuff.
And there's there's weight, Yes, you're not having enough. Well
be a fighter pilot. I was not heavy enough. The
you got to be heavy enough.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
You have to be a certain way. Yeah, oh yeah,
I was a chunky. Then you gotta lose some weight.
Like Barty Rubb Frint. I was like, wait, did they
fat fat shame to me.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
Out of the airfift No, it was the Air Force
didn't have the same program that I because I listed
when I was seventeen. I was still a junior in
high school when I enlisted, and so I did my
basic training between my junior and senior year of high
school and then I came back, did my senior high
school and then left, and so the Air Force didn't
have that either.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
They didn't have that option at that point either.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
So did you forget any of the training between and
when you went back to high school and then went
back after that?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
You didn't have to just basic training? I mean it's
basic marketing shaps. Yeah, basic training is real base. I
mean it's facing movements in marching and you know, it's
all basic stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
So we again sured just a moment ago that ESPN
Walt Disney they agreed to a deal with YouTube. So
that's finally done. The billionaires can stop fighting over on
the apsoital light beer is over. If you will, I guess,
I don't know. It's uh, I'm happy about it.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I have YouTube TV, so I'm not pretty excited about it.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I've been supplementing with Fubo for a little bit, so
I'm excited about that.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
But when you come on BCT short show, obviously we
got the CU Buffs men's basketball, so we get the
real quick half hour little bit about it.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Looking forward to that, are you well?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
First I'll ask Nate if we've come to the end
of the show, you were on the fence about what
direction you were leaning with the game. Have anything I've
said helped convince you one way or the other?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
You've convinced me that you are very optimistic. Okay, it
has not changed my view of it. You know, I
think the Broncos need to prove it to me that
they're ready to to, you know, supplant the bully on
the block. I know the Chiefs are not having their
best season right now, but I think they have an
incredible amount of confidence playing the Broncos, and so you know,
this is this is the this is this is a

(29:42):
huge test, probably the biggest test the Broncos have faced
next to the Eagles. But I think it's even a
bigger one because it's their boogeyman that dream died.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Really good stuff