11-17-25 KOA Sports Hour 1 with Rick Lewis

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Snap placement kick on the way and it is good.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
They don't block this one, like last year in Kansas
City that on the final play of the game. The
Denver Broncos have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs by a
final score of twenty two to nineteen.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
You want to be the best, you gotta beat the best.
And you know, if you're some say, if you're scared
to go to church.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
And by the way, Dave, universally, i'd say most of
Broncos Country is with you.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
In that final call.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
You're like, don't block that one, because boys, he's lining
up thirty five yards out.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
It did strike me.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
I think I said something like, you know, I'm not
even gonna mention what I'm thinking and what Broncos Country
is thinking as well, or something like that, because at
that point, I mean, you you acknowledge that there's irony here,
same team, same yard line to win a game, and

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the same team as the opportunity again twice. But you
also don't want to be the guy that brings that
up and then something, you know, we get a shank
or we hit the upright, and it's like I would
never be able to live that down. So I just
sort of I thought mildly mentioned what I was sure

(01:26):
Broncos fans at least some fans were thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Oh yeah, they were, especially the ones watching on TV
because they actually showed it. They're like, oh well this
really absolutely they Oh my god, They're like, hey, this
reminds us thirty five yards out a year ago at
this time, this is what happened. And to me, everybody's like,
because now you saw it was different uniforms, so you
knew it wasn't like the actual moment, but that that

(01:51):
was kind of dirty.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
It was kind of dirty for.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean TV listen.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Ostensibly a national TV broadcast is not soos to care
who wins. Now, I will say Broncos fans, and I've
heard from plenty over the years that there seems to
be I will say a consensus, Rick, but more than
just sort of a few Broncos fans that think Tony

(02:17):
Romo absolutely hates the Broncos. I honestly have never had
any indication. I've only talked to him once, you know,
but in listening to the broadcast, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I've never thought that, but I could be wrong. I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
We've been hearing that since Tony Romo got that job.
I'm with you, I wouldn't say that's the case. I
started feeling like maybe the refs don't like the Broncos.
Yesterday in that game, there were some calls they didn't call.
There was some really really tough calls that they did,
and most of them seem to go against Denver. But

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that on that cack dave I had, I had a
quick flashback to the blocked.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
One in Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
It crossed just quickly came through my head as they
were lining up. I couldn't even watch it. I looked
at the monitor.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I couldn't. I couldn't watch it.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
When I had that flashback, I turned my head, watched
the monitor and listened for the crowd. The monitor, the
TV is just a little bit behind. Yeah, the real thing.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yep. So I was. I was waiting for you to
say it was good and hear the crowd. He erupted.
I couldn't watch it, man, because that flashback hit me.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I think Phil Simms like, like Tony Romo, I've never
got this since he hates the Broncos. I think it's
more of the he loves everybody that plays the Broncos,
especially Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
He loves Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Wouldn't one be able to deduce, based on what you
just said that if Tony Romo loves everybody that plays
the Broncos, could a reasonable person then come to the
conclusion that he hates the bron I mean, it's as interesting.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You're right, it's not much of a logical leap to
say that.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yes, But I guess my take on listening to Tony
is more of the gushing on mahome Omes, the gushing
on on a lot of the teams, because they get
they're the number one crew, so it's usually a good game, sure,
which means it's probably a good quarterback on the opposing team.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
I just never I mean honestly, and I know Sims.
I know Phil Sims. So you you were of the
you were of the school the Phil Sims hated the Bronco.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Maybe I just never spent that much time thinking about it.
Maybe maybe there are announcers that have have a predisposition
to not really liking a team or whatever. So being
that's one of the advantages of of being a local
play by play guy, right, I only have to I
only have to pull for one team, I don't have
to worry about uh, you know, you want you want

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to do a good job, but you don't have to
worry about being biased from the opposing team's perspective, even
though you want to.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
You want to be able.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
When they make a good play, you got to say
they've made a good play. When the Broncos make a
play that's not so good, you got to be able
to say that too.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
So they made a bunch of good ones yesterday. Oh yes,
they absolutely did. Obviously, you know what it felt like.
I was talking to Rick about this, it felt like
a playoff game. It did like from listening through the
radio to you guys.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
We made mentioned that I think we we obviously during
breaks we'll talk about stuff, but I remember I just
can't remember if it was on the air or not
talking about to Rick about Hey, this this just has
the energy from the crowd of a playoff game.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
A lot of people said it's the loudest they've ever
heard that stadium, and we have headphones on, so it's
a little hard to gauge unless you took your headphones off.
But I talked to Susie Wargen this morning. She said
the same thing. She's down on the field and she's
got an IFB in one ear and she she felt
like after that game. In the other ear, it sounded
like she just left a big rock concert. Her ears

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we're ringing. I gotta say, man, Broncos Country, the fans
at that game made a difference in that game. You
guys brought it yesterday. You guys brought the noise, and
it really did feel like playoff atmosphere yesterday. And it
get me aside, is get me excited for what's to
come down the stretch here. I can't even think too
far down the road yet, but man, it's exciting to

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think what could happen with this football team.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
On the text line, my wife and I listened to
Rome with the first time. I could definitely pick up
some hefty bias away from Denver, and I will say,
here's here's a differing perspective.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Three O three sixty three eight.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Dave Logan Romo was very complimentary of Nicks and Benito yesterday.
He does not hate the Broncos and quite frankly, is
probably called whoops, where did that go to?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
He asked lately, I.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Didn't delete it.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Let's see oh, and he does not hate the Broncos.
Quite frankly, he's probably called no more than five Broncos
games since twenty seventeen. And then it's BS actually spelled out. Okay,
so there's there's a listen.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's not me.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
I just brought up that I've heard from fans. I
don't get a chance. The only time I hear Tony
and Jim call the game is when the Broncos are
not playing and the lead crew from CBS is working
a game. And I enjoyed listening to both of them, honestly.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I mean I rewatched the TV copy today. I didn't
get the sense that and people were hitting me up
during the game saying, oh Tony Rome was saying this,
and oh yeah, absolutely, and I was like, well, I'm
listening to our broadcast. So I encouraged all of them
to switch over as possible.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I did have I heard I heard about that. It
was studio.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
It was quite nice. Nice, Yeah, it was quite nice.
Well again, I got I gotta keep it going, though, right, I.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Mean, absolutely, Pumpkin loattes from this point on, that's what that.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yeah, So no, I enjoyed it. We've done that.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Every single game day and so far as it's been
pretty good returns so far. But yeah, you know, I
I rewatched it today and I didn't get the sense
from anything in it that that really was alarming to me.
But I will say, and then somebody asked me, well,
how do you know Phil Sims? I am not the
only one on the Phil Simms hates the Broncos thing.
They actually did like a petition back in the mid
twenty tens to have Phil Simms never call a Broncos

(08:03):
game ever.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Again. We we had Phil Simms on the show.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
A few years back and I asked him about it,
and I mean, you can say, well, Dave, what would
you expect him to say on a live radio show?
But he was like that that's the craziest thing I've
ever heard. I would tend to Again, I'm not saying
that that, you know, people don't have predispositions one way or.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
The other that maybe you know you you.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
You talk to a coach at one point, the coach
wasn't square with you or didn't give you, you know,
accurate of whatever. So over a period of time you're like, Okay,
I'm not pulling for that guy. We all have we
all have built in bias. But I just never maybe
I just haven't listened to me. You listened. I listened
for information on TV games. I want the color commentator,

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commentator to tell me things that you know I can
I can see the game on TV. Tell me why
something happened. And I think Romo does a good job
of that right kind of at times, even forecasting what's
about to happen. But really there's some commentators even now

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that you hear and you don't particularly get a lot from.
But that doesn't doesn't ruin ruin my watching experience.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Boy, he really hated to defend Tony for a second.
He really hated the call against Riley Moss that negated
the pick six, like.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
He went, I mean for what it was, he went
off on it.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
He did not like the uh he didn't think that
what Riley Moss did in the illegal contact.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
I completely agree. He's like one hundred percent. And I
saw that and and again, you know, you got to
be a little not careful, maybe aware of you're the
home play by play voice, and so you see that
call and you're like, that's an absolute horrible call. But

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there will be people that if I say it, like
that we'll say, Okay, Homer Homer Spencer, I mean, you're
you're the biggest Homer Homer.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I know. But that was not a good call at all.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
No, no, he railed on that.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
They brought Jeane's territory in and Jean did his whole
like as he typically does, like, oh, guy's great point,
but he did the like, well it's beyond five yards
and he stayed with them for and then I love
Tony kaff Right after that, he's like, yeah, well, let's
watch this next play.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
We'll see this happen again.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
And how many times this is going to happen over
the course of every single game and they never call this,
He's like to call it.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
In that moment, it wasn't quite as.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Bad as last night Detroit and Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
That was bad.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
The past interference call basically seal the game. I don't know,
I mean, I'm I don't know, just not good.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
And again, you know, to your point you're talking about
the rest rick, it's just there's there's nothing you can
do about.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
It's right.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
We get we get to these these game changing moments
that refs have high leverage authority on, and the only
thing we get afterwards is a pool report.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
That's it. I mean that that is the only there
is no like scrutiny.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Otherwise, you get a pool report that we say where
they're going to basically back up the call.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
They're not going to say, wow, you know, we kind
of mess that one up. They're gonna be like, yeah,
we saw contact and we threw the flag.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
You know what I think what's happening with Riley Moss
is he's definitely got a target on this back, oh
no doubt. Not just from opposing teams, but I feel
like the refs too are watching him very very closely,
and opposing teams when it's third and sixteen or whatever,
they're going to take a shot at Riley Moss because
he's very aggressive and there's been a lot of pis
called on him.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And that's what I do.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
If I was the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs and
Patrick Mahomes, you need a big, big, big play on
third down. Take your chances, maybe your guy catches it,
maybe there'll be a PI on it with Riley Moss,
and I think we're going to contain to see that
down the stretch. He talked about that after the game
and said something like he needs to clean that up.
He'll be better. He's a really aggressive guy and he's

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really confident in how he plays. But I do feel
like they are watching him a little more carefully than
they do everybody else.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
There's no other cornerback that has targeted as much as
Riley Moss. And he's also no other cornerback that has
as many DPIs.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's got nine, that's not yep, He's got nine for
the season.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
So the next closest is four or five.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Here here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
I mean, he's he's a young player, and I know
some Broncos fans will hear me say this and say,
what in the actual hell are you talking about. I
think Riley Moss is a good player, and I think
he can be an even better player. He's got the
skill set that not everybody who's walking around on Earth.

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Hats long, I mean, tall, fast, he's tough, he'll tackle,
but he knows and the Broncos know he's got to
clean up a couple things in his game because, as
Rick said, now there's whether it's a predisposition or mindset
or human nature or what have you. If there's a

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close call and twenty one is involved with a wide receiver,
the chances are the flags coming out. So you have
to understand the position you're in and operate in a
mindful way moving forward, which means you know, you've got
to stay on top of receivers and then you have
to be mindful of that hand to hand combat that

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as a receiver.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Even back in the seventies and eighties, that's how the
game was played.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
You're jostling for a position, your hands, you're fighting with
that defensive back and he's fighting back. So the problem
is it's such a subjective call, right, such a subjective call,
And I think he's going to be fine, but he's
got to work on that aspect.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Of his game.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
And as you know, there's a lot of hand fighting
every one of those contested catches that happens all the time.
Pastro tand a couple of weeks ago said he thought
it was a race thing because Riley Moss is white.
What do you guys think about that? Have we predisposition
to think, well, he's a white corner, he can't be
that good.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh, I'm not afraid to answer that to you.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
To your second comment, which was he's a white corner,
he can't be that good.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would say that.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
That would apply to a lot of white corners because
there aren't many, and it's the same thing for white
wide receivers.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
And I experienced that in the league. I mean it's like, hey, bro,
what what are you doing out here? I mean, I'm
just being honest about now it was put it. Maybe
the verbies was a little bit different, right, I'm sure.
I mean it was a little bit different. I'm sure
you know what, you don't blow him out of here.
I'd be like, hey, well, you know what we're fixing

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to find out, aren't we. They're like, hey, eighty five brunch,
You're supposed to be a tight end. Yeah, I mean
that's doing that. That's I mean, guys my size, with
my hue, uh played inside.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I mean that's a good word. So guys that look.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
Like Riley Moss honestly in this league play safety. So yeah,
there's there's like I think there's a moment where you
look at there and like, huh look at here.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, for sure, it's probably some of that.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I'd say from a technique standpoint, I mean, he is handsy,
he's aggressive, and if you're going to be handsy and
aggressive as a cornerback.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Your technique has to.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Be unbelievable, right, And and there's a reputation because like
saus Gardner.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Is very handy. Yes, that's that's an excellent point.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Soft Gardener, I would submit if you went back and
looked at every single game that he played with the Jets.
I hadn't seen him play in Indianapolis yet.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And he's a hell of a player. He got away
with more holding calls.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
He grabbed in his rookie season when the Jets played here.
He's got two handfuls of court and Sutton's jersey no call.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
So yeah, So it's just the example that pumps pops
in my mind is like, Okay, well you're gonna be
a handy cornerback, then then maybe there's reputation to that.
Sauce Gardner come in, came into the league as a
top pick in the NFL Draft, he was Rookie of
the Year, and he was still very handsy. He was
hands in college too. I mean, that's that's just sort
of what he is. So Riley Moss is the third

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round pick. He's a white cornerback. He's he's one of two.
I guess depending on if you qualify or quantified the
Eagles cornerback dB there, but I'm talking about thirty three.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, he's he's more of a nick back.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah more Yeah right so TB. But but the point
of it is is as a as a.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Boundary corner, he's the only one and because of that,
there's some scrutiny for sure.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Like Dave, I think he's a good player. I really
like Riley Moss. He's got the I think he's got
the right attitude. When he does make a mistake, he's
able to put it behind him Cooper to thank yes,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Uh I.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
But he does have there's a part of his game
he doesn't need to clean up because they're just going
to keep calling this on him now and you don't
want to see him giving up big you know, big
touchdown passes, you know, every single week.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But he'll figure that out.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
I think he's got the talent to be able to
figure that out, to be a little cleaner, you know what.
I like coverage, the fact that he acknowledges it and
is going to work on it.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
And he talks about wearing boxing.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Gloves in practice that that keeps you from grabbing guys.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's great.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
I mean it's it's uh, there's there's there's an isolation
to playing that position that when you know you're locked
up on a receiver and he's all of a sudden
got a release and is running as fast as he can.
You're running as fast as you can to keep up
with him, right, you're looking at his eyes. But when

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he starts, then the ball's under the thrown and he starts,
you feel him choked down and start to come back.
There there's I won't say there's a panic, but there's
a feeling like home. I have to prevent this, right,
I mean you you you're you're isolated. That's why that's
why these guys make the kind of money they do.

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I mean they play at times in an isolated almost
in a phone booth where I got you, and all
over the field.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I got to make sure you don't catch the ball.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
So the fact that he acknowledges, hey, you know you
can fall, You can lapse into bad habits even in
the NFL receivers can you know, starting to rise up
when they're when they're getting into and out of their brakes, right,
keep your chest played over your toes.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Just little things that you have to work on.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
I would bet this watching bow Nicks play yesterday and
comparing bo Nix's foot work yesterday to what we saw
against the Raiders, I would almost guarantee you that that
was a point of emphasis for bow in this ten
day period between the Raiders game and the Chiefs game.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Because he he absolutely.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Looked much much more comfortable in the pocket against a
better defense.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Yeah, we commented about that throughout the entire game. It
was really obvious stepping up in the pocket Steady rock solid,
finding going through his progressions to which he didn't do.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
You just do the little whispers right there? What I do?

Speaker 7 (19:36):
You just do rock Steady, rock Steady, the Whispers. No,
that's Aretha Franklin. No, No, nothing of that. Oh the
Whispers did it. They didn't do They did a rock Steady,
but it's a different version of Aretha. Aretha did the
original rock Steady. I didn't ask you who did? Said
did the Whispers do rock Steady? Did rock Steady? Okay,
thank you? That's a pretty good pull. Ckteady.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Yeah, white guys with the overbike right there, we're moving
and girling. I forgot what I was even saying. No, Yeah,
So he was he was rocked Daddy in the pocket
yesterday and man, that that was so good to see.
You could see how good bone Nicks can be when
he plays like that.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, I can't wait to talk a little more about
bone Nicks. Actually, he said something in the press conference
last night.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
You you caught it too. I wonder if it's the
same thing. It might be.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
Well, give me a hint, because I know we got
to go to break but it being he was on
third and lungs. Remember the TV show Shindig. Shindig was
a TV show. It was Harry to say, I must
have missed that. It was kind of a it seemed
like an alternative to Dick Clark's American Bandstand, kind of
a dance show for like teenagers.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I was watching Soul Train.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
I think I was probably watching The flint Stones back then.
I mean this, this was weird. We were really young.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Shame did not have one black dude on it.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Sixty four to nineteen sixty six.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
We're watching Shindig in sixty four. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
I know I was a soul trained guy too, Man,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I missed it seemed like a missed Shindig. Kind of
a California thing. Who is the host? Well, that tells
me a lot right there. I didn't watch it.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, who is the host?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Let's see here, I'm just.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Asking us, Jimmy O'Neill, No that it can't be it.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Hold on, let me see.

Speaker 7 (21:29):
I believe it was an alternative to American Band State.
We'd ask our audience to chime in.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
But nobody is alive that actually watched Shindig except Rick.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Shindig was conceived as a short notice replacement for Hoot
and Danny.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I do remember that show too, of course.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Another California show is that Roy Clark? I think? I
think Roy Clark was.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Jimmy O'Neill was the was the host? Oh wow, yeah wow,
that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
So sorry I missed those.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, the photo he was right there?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
There you go. Lewis right.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
I don't remember him, but I remember the name. I
thought was just a funny word. That's what That's what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Right, SAMs pooka Shells I guess that was. That was
pre pookashells California. Yeah, yeah, pre Pookashell. What a performance yesterday.
I want to ask you about bo Nix.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
You talked about the footwork, and it did seem like
it was a significant difference from what we saw just
ten days ago. I mean, I don't know what we expected.
I did think it was gonna be better. But I
think the thing that jumped out right away is his
ability to hang in the pocket. He wasn't bailing on
clean pockets, and that's something that I think a lot

(22:44):
of us have been waiting to see quite for quite
some time.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
I don't disagree. I thought he he looked much more settled.
I thought the plan was good. I mean, they did
that yesterday with basically very little from the run game,
and and they spread out Kansas City and they were
able to attack that Chiefs defense in a really smart way.

(23:08):
I thought the first series for the Broncos sort of
set the tone because this, again, this was an offense
that ten days prior had scored ten points. And the
first series they convert a third and eight on a
quick out to the west sideline by Pat Bryant, and

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then they convert a third and eleven on a basic
route what it looked like a basic route to Courtland Sutton.
That's two big third down conversions, right, And I used
the stat before prior to yesterday's game, on third down
and nine or more for the Broncos this year, I mean,

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think about this third and nine or more. Prior to
yesterday's game, Denver was eight for forty nine. They hit
a third and eleven in the first series, they hit
a third and fifteen in the last series. I mean
they were you know that they attacked the Chiefs and

(24:12):
I thought bo was just a lot more calm and settled.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
In the pocket.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
I thought that was the best game for Sean Payton
as a play caller.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I thought it was really good play designer.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, his scheme, he came up with a really good
game plan, scheme calls. I was impressed. And then he
took a big hit on the sidelines, got right back up.
I wonder how he's feeling today after that hit from
the ref. Both those guys, I'm sure woke up today
not feeling all that great. But no, I thought that
was Sean Payton and Dave you talked about this going

(24:46):
into the game, like this is why you have a
head coach like Sean Payton. Yep, and man did he
come through?

Speaker 4 (24:52):
So this thing that both said in this post game,
he was asked about the third longs was something that
I know I've been wanting to see the Broncos do
a lot more of Rott's Smith. Well, you've had him
on Tuesday Nights has been talking about this. It's about
being a play repeater. And then for years now that
with Boa, with Sean Payton, it seems like, hey, you're
doing something well. But we got to go away from
that because you know, we want people to expect it,

(25:14):
and we got to be creative and sometimes unnecessarily creative,
and it seems like you're just getting too creative. But
he said both said this after the game about the
third and longs.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Actually, we called the same play probably three or four times,
I think, and we hit I guess two or three
different receivers on the play. So you know, Troy's long
catch was great. Courtland had two intermediate catches that were
off the same play. So we just found some stuff

(25:45):
that was working and our guys were getting open. And
at the end of the day, third down and third
and long is all about windows and timing, and you know,
the last one was escaping and you know a little
bit of a scrambled drill that he just saw and
worked back out and it was perfect, perfect time, and
I kind of saw it before it happened and knew
he was going to do that. So that's just you know,

(26:06):
at this point when you start getting in the season,
you start having this rhythm and feel with your guys,
and you know, it pays off.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
It pays off to know where they're.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Going to be. And they're just resilient group and they're
tough and they run every route hard, and they fight
for the football and they play hard, and it's just
good to see those guys make plays in critical moments.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
We start with the rhythm and feel.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
You get that through repetition and doing the plays that
actually are most comfortable for you in a lot of
ways sometimes right, No.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
For sure, Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
I mean it's in its most simplistic way of explaining
that that's why they practice, that's why they do what
they do during the week, and the film they watch
and you know, the detail that coaches and players take
into a game in terms of the depth of routes

(26:58):
and the angle of the break and what happens here.
If I flush you know, you're running away from me,
You've got to get back into my view, into my
vision so that I can make a play. Listen, I'm
not comparing Bo Nicks at all to Patrick Mahomes, except
on this level. That conversion on the last drive would

(27:19):
turned out to be the last drive, the third and
fifteen conversion. That's exactly what Patrick Mahomes has been doing
for his entire career, where you can have guys covered
and the rush allows him to kind of gain in
the pocket and then take off and then a receiver

(27:41):
will uncover and he's got the arm strength to get
the ball there. I mean, that's you know, Kansas City,
Kansas City playing a defense on that play that you
should not be able to catch the ball with any underneath.
We're out there playing two man, so man underneath with
two safeties high. The underneath leverage point of the receiver

(28:02):
is the inside hip of that receiver. So when Courtland
runs the dig, that defensive back just turns and he's
ostensibly between Courtland and the ball.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
The problem is Bo got out of pocket the other direction.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Courtland pivoted and went back, and the defensive back was
slow to mirror him. I mean, it's just a terrific
play by a young quarterback and the veteran.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Receiver yeah, the fact that Courtland saw Bow climb to
the right. Yeah, and then basically River's course.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Again, that's what you have to do.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
You have to get yourself in the vision of your quarterback,
and in this case that that depends on which way
the quarterback has bounced out.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Of that pocket.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Well, and then and then the placement of the ball
too is great because then Courtland could just go to
the ground and cradle.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
It wasn't going to take a big hit.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
I thought the placement too from Bow was great, exactly, Yes,
much better.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
The one pass of the thirty five yard its Troy
Franklin down the left sideline and you, I mean you
were like, that is a dive.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I think I even pulled it specifically.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I included your call when I sent it out to
to everybody.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
I here, this is what it sounded like.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Blit's on the way, it's picked up, Bow's in the pocket,
throws the.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Ball down the sideline.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That Bow's top had a big play indeed by Troy
Franklin down the Kansas City sideline with a perfect strike
to the KC forty thirty five yards. Christian Fulton on
the play beaten and that was the throw of the
game by Bonnicks.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
That was a dime.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
There's a dime on the field there at the forty
yard line.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It was perfect throw, great call by Dave. Dave. I mean,
you're so good at this. I texted you last night.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
I heard some of the replays driving home, and it's
just so good at what you do.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
The description. I appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Where did and I'm asking for a friend, where did
the phrase dime?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's a contract question, right, When did that start?

Speaker 6 (29:59):
And I'm going to be I'm gonna be I'm going
to admit a frailty here on my part. I never
have quite understood exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I know what it means.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
It means a very accurate throw, right, a dime, a
deep ball, a dime. But I'm saying, how did so
what is that? How did that turn into that's a dime?
I bet I bet you could put this here on
the line. Check g P T probably has that. Yeah,
probably have you? You made friends.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
With chatted to do that real quick, real quickly.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Okay did you get it from?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Was replacement?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Real quick?

Speaker 6 (30:40):
And then I'm gonna you guys keep to run to practice. Okay,
I guess I'll run to practice anyway.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Okay, we'll get it all this you were just I
wasn't even a thought.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Yeah I was gonna say something.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
This might not be the show for me.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Some kids listening to the car right, yeah, so thank you.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
All the texts on on defining dime, people talking about
uh perfect woman. Uh, somebody's saying it's the smallest coin,
so dropping a dime like in the smallest part. So yeah,
did you you did your own crack research as well?

Speaker 7 (31:16):
I did chat GPT dropping a dime. This is a
recent slang term for a perfectly thrown pass. It is
easy to catch, mirroring the term for a perfect assist
in basketball. The origin for a perfect pass believed to
be shortening of the metaphor dropping a dime, similar to
the old slang drop me a dime from making a

(31:39):
phone call from a payphone, which costs a dime. Wow
wait before your time as well. Also remember payphones. I
was around for pay phones.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
I did do that.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I look, I I was a live pre internet too,
so just likeay, all those things, even rotary phones. I all,
I grew up in the eighties. Grant you ever used
to pay I have, but it was thirty five cents
when I used it back in Ohio inflation.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so it's not really definitive. I don't think.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
They also mentioned the dying part could be the cart
because of the dying package that some defenses run, certainly
in past protection.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
So maybe it's a combination of a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Could be Yeah, all right, well thank you for that. Yeah,
it's good.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
A couple of listeners mentioned they call it a dime
because it was a ten, ten out of ten.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Could be that, bro, Yeah all right, well, thank you
for the textures for chiming in on that. All right,
so we got.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
To take a quick break. We have Rick Lewis and
studio very excited about that. We'll continue to break this
game down. We have Ian Rappaport join us next.