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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This ball will be spotted right between the hash marks
at the twenty five an attempt of thirty five yards
against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I won't even mention it.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Snap placement, kick on the way and it is cut.
They don't block this one like last year in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And on the final play of the game, the Denver
Broncos have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs by a final
score of twenty two to nineteen.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
What a game, what a finish Broncos. I mean a
lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Did what the Chiefs tend to do, which is they
get the ball win, don't give the opposition any chance
to amount any kind of comeback. Right, and then the
third and fifteen play, I mean, just for a moment here,
a third and fifteen play to Cortland sudden that right
there was kind of the game in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Bo times the pocket throws a ball that is caught
out over the forty yard line, and that'll be a
first down court a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sudden how about you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Fourteen twenty yards on a third and fifteen, Knicks stayed
in the pocket, then climbed it, threw a ball on
the run.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
The court went down to cradle, but it's.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
A first down for the Broncos at the two minute.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Warning, money money throw, money catch.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
At that moment, I thought they were gonna win it.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh yeah, even though they were still on the negative
side of the fifty, right, they were still on their
side of the fifty. I was like, you know what,
that was the play that they needed that play because
if they would have given it back to the Chiefs,
they would have had about a two minutes left in
the game. And it's like prime Patrick Mahomes, like, that's
what he does, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Honestly, there was never a point in that game I
thought they were going to lose. Really, yeah, even when
Kelsey scored that touchdown. I just feel like this team
has that special next gear that they go into when
they really need to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I never thought they were going to lose that game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's might just be one of those years, folks.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, it might just be.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And that is so true.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Man, there's something about this season about this football team.
And enjoy it, Broncos Country. This doesn't happen all that
often in the National Football League, and especially from where
this team has come over the last ten years to now.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Man, enjoy every single win shout out by.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
The way to Frank Crumb. The block extra point that
was so significant. Now again you're thinking in terms of, well,
you know they won twenty two to nineteen. But what
was so important about that is it changed the math
there at the end of the game, because that means
when they attempt at the Broncos attempt at the fifty
four yard er with Will Lutz, it was to tie
the game. Now, you might still be doing that at
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that time, but it would have changed maybe the way
Kansas City because they would have been leading twenty to nineteen.
Let's just say that Willis converts that in the leading
twenty to nineteen, their mindset might be a little different.
Maybe they're running clock, maybe they're handing the ball off
instead of attempting to try to move down the field. Right,
it changes the entire dynamic of that last four minutes
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and change when the Chiefs got the ball, the Broncos
interviewing a sack, punted it back to the Broncos, and
then they never gave it back after that point.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
They ended up us getting the field goal with Will.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Let's what it is is like that all could have
changed if the block extra point hadn't happened.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Rank Crumb the prime of Laramie Wyoming, yep. And man,
you should have seen him on the sideline after that
helmet off, that golden hair flowing, celebrating with everybody on
the Broncos sideline. That's the first big thing he's done
as a professional football player, and that was a big one.
Like you said, Yeah, special special feeling that we get
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from this football team, and it's so fun to share
it with you, and you and I talk a lot
during the week. We talk a lot. In the pregame.
We kind of had a feeling that it was going
to be a field goal game. It was going to
come down to a field goal game, because that's kind
of how this whole season is going. And you got
to feel pretty good about our field goal kicker, Will
Nuts five for five in the game, and he's been
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clutched as well. I was just back talking to our boss,
Tepper about this. We are as a broadcast crew, we're
like an NFL team, not just those of us behind
the mic. Everybody that's involved in this broadcast behind the
scenes on the mic. We are a team, and most
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of us on this broadcast team have never experienced a
season like this, you know, Dave Logan, it's called Super Bowls.
This crew has not, And so I was telling Temperate
just how special it feels, you know, because you get
a brotherhood when you're doing this. We're a team, we're brothers,
you know, and we're going to battle every week, you know,
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doing our thing, and man, it's just a great feeling
to do it with people you care about and people
that are so good at their jobs. I just feel
so honored and so blessed to be a.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Part of it, perfectly said my friend. Well said, now
I completely agree with you on that. A couple of
texts here five six six nine zero, Ryan and Rick.
This is the most I have been about the Broncos
since the Super Bowl fifty season. Philadelphia game felt good,
but this one feels different. The deck of cars was
stacked against the Broncos yesterday, from injuries to officiating chiefs
being desperate. Broncos were not supposed to win that game,
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but they persevered through all the adversity, and that has
become their identity.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They are mentally and physically tough football team.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Shout at Sean Payton for his excellent game management yesterday.
And Darren Rizzy for getting a special teams group ready
to go. As Dave said, it just might be one
of those years. Go Broncos, Dylan and Charlotte. I think
it's perfectly said there, Dylan. I mean that's there's a
certain amount of when you think back to the Super
Bowl fifty season, and again, like you said, we weren't
on the broadcast at that time, but of course we
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were football fans and Broncos fans living here. That is
the feeling of inevitability, the feeling of no matter what
was happening, there was going to be a play made.
And that was kind of where I was coming at
it from last week when we were breaking this game down,
and even when I had been on and he scoffed
at me when I said, I think the Broncos are
gonna win game.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Shout out to Ben for being wrong again.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was coming at it from the again vibe, don't
play the drop. I was playing coming on from how
they have been, how they continue to stay present in
the moment and win those games, win despite everything else
tells you. To Dylan's point, the injuries coming into it,
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finding out JK. Dobbs is out for the year right beforehand,
knowing you weren't gonna be without Patrick, knowing you're without
your green Dots, your captain on defense, and Alex Singleton,
I mean, knowing all of that, and the Chiefs had
a bye week, you had Andy Reid who's twenty one
to four.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Coming off of bye weeks.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Like all of those things, it all seemed like there
was absolutely no reason whatsoever to tell yourself that the
Broncos could win this game. I had people, Chiefs, fans,
or otherwise telling me that there was gonna be a blowout,
It's gonna be like forty to ten in this game,
and I just was like, I just refuse to believe that.
I'm more in line with you. I think it's going
to be close game one way or the other. Whoever
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has the ball last probably going to be the difference
in the game. And because of all that, I like
the Broncos chances, especially at home.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yeah, Broncos had the longest they do have the longest
home game winning streak active and going into the game
at home four and a half point dogs. Really wow, Okay,
And I think not too many people thought like we did,
that it was going to be a field goal game,
and we know we said I don't know if we
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said it publicly, but I know you did, and I
know I told that same thing to you as we
were doing going through our game prep and all of that.
And I want to give big props to coach Peyton too.
There's been a lot of people questioning him the last
several weeks that they should maybe switch play callers, that
he's a good play designer. He's not a good game
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play caller. He really earned his money yesterday. He designed
some really nice plays. He had wide open receivers a
lot in that game that they schemed opened, and he
called a good game other than the RJ.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Harvey throw the trick play.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
But I thought Sean Payton maybe this was his best
game too as a play caller play designer.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Sean Payton didn't just fall off the turnip truck. He
did not.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
No, he did not, And coaches like him in games
like that, that's when they earn their mindy like his.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Did you hear the one eight nines thing in the
post game?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It was really phenomenal, So he was he was talking
about again all the players that had to sort of
step up and the culture that they've been building. And
I'll read you the quote, and I have a little
bit of sound here for this, but he said, he said, look,
it's not me, it's training for your culture.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It's like Nick Saban.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
There's this Nick Saban quote about toughness really not necessarily
about physical but the mental and how much you can take.
And he likened it to hurricane windows. You can get
the one thirty nines, the one to fifties of the
one to eighty nines. Obviously if you go up, they
cost more. So I went through the same thing with
a beach house, and it's fine in the one eight nines,
and sometimes you got to pass on something that might
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look attractive. But it's finding those guys that can tune
out the noise. There's been a lot of noise, not
just and then he fail off. He's like, I won't
come on a comment on that, but anyway, I hear
some of the narratives and I just want to cry.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
But anyway, it is what it is. That's your job.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
That's our job, the focus and the wins, and to
focus on the right way to win each game.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He also said this, and he likened it back to what.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Happened in the Kansas City game last year with the
block field goal, and how you have to have the
right guys in the locker room with the right mentality
to be able to survive that and not only survived,
but also get better from it.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
So this was really cool.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
I think that loss in Kansas City was where the
one eighty nine miles per hour was tested, and that
was a tough, gut wrenching loss. But I think there
was a feeling, and if you look at our record
from that loss, there was a feeling that you know,
we belong here, and there's either wins or losses. But
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the response after that game last year with the block
field goal, you.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Know, was.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Super and so there was some irony obviously when we
were taking a knee to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Kick the field goal. But I just, you know, I.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Think that that confidence thing that we always talk about
exists in that locker room with these this group of guys.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's special.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
You know, they'll have some time to recover and then
get ready for that next stretch of six games. I
think we're three home, three away, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So again, the mindset of sort ofwithstanding whatever you have
to the one eight nine's right saying hey, you have to.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I mean, look, it's it's not always gonna be used
to to.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Hang in use to hang in there. It's gonna be tough.
You got to survive it. And you've seen that. It's
why you have the best point differential in the fourth
quarter of the NFL right now.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
It'll being around this team, like we are traveling with
the team, you get to see them in intimate settings
and how they really are. And I mentioned this a
couple of weeks ago, those first two tough losses, at
the end of the game, they never were down on themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
They weren't hanging their heads.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
They knew they were a good football team, and they
knew that they were going to bounce back from that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
They I was so impressed with that fact.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
I was a little perplexed by it at first, Like, Wow,
these guys really believe in themselves and they that's a
special thing. When you can get fifty three guys that
are all together as a team as a family, that
have bought in, and that's what's happened with this football team.
You've got something special, and you've got an elite defense.
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And I still think that defense wins championships in the NFL.
I still believe that the last time it happened for
the Broncos, that's exactly how it went. The defense were
the ones that won that Super Bowl year. Peyton Manning
was the quarterback. He had the brain, but he didn't
have the physical skills anymore. And they struggled throughout the
year with Peyton Manning, but the defense carried them that year.
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But the offense was good enough. I think this offense
is good enough with an elite defense.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Well, I think this offense is a chance to be
better too, like what they were as an offense, I
think by down the stretch. And this is my opinion
on it, but I mean, I'm sure the guys that
played the game at that time maybe feel a little
different about it. But I thought they were sort of
tapped out. They were topped out, if you will, on
what they were going to be.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You know, CJ.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Anderson was very good, right, And of course you had
DT and you had a lot of vets there. You
had a lot of experience there, but limitations, and the
limitations were hits your ceiling. It was a lot about
supporting and playing complimentary to the defense like that became
the identity of the team. There's another level to this offense.
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As I said here today, I refuse to believe get
me talking, I refuse to believe that we have to
top out at just being complimentary to the defense. You
don't want to mess things up for the defense. You
don't want to put the defense in a bad position.
But simultaneously, you've gotta be more. You've got to expect more,
and I expect more from Vo Nicks being complimentary for
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now while you're still figuring things out. Okay, live with that.
That cannot be the long play here. The long play
has to be much better.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
You agree, Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
A good offense starts with an offensive line and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I believe they have that in place.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
And as you said, they're going to get better because
they have as sending players Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin, both
those guys are going to get better. I think Marvin
Mims will continue to get better. And you got Courtland Sutton,
rock solid white receiver, clutch guy, third down, throw it
to Courtland Sutton. R. J. Harvey is an ascending player
and we haven't even really touched in his capacity of talent.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
That pool of talent that he had.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
You reeled off all of his stats from college running
the football. We haven't seen that yet, and I do
feel like we're going to see that. So, yeah, this
offense is getting better and it should get better as
the season goes on, to go along with that big
time defense.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I mean they do not, No, that have to be
a stat that we lean on because you're nine to two,
that's the stat that really matters the most. But you
are leading the league drops right now from your receiving
corps and that's just a fact. So if we're talking
about and projecting out for the final six games and
heading into the postseason, I don't even know how you
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curtail that because it's at eleven games end of the season,
and I guess a stat like that is what you
are getting improved as you should.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Wanted to improve, But how does it improve? Because Troy
had a couple of tough drops yesterday?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Did he not? Right now?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And he's done that quite a bit this season.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
He absolutely has. But then he came up clutch, he
did when you needed him to. And he's done that too,
yes he has. So it's like you don't take him
off the field, right, You don't take.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Him off the field because he has drops, because you
know later on he had the thirty five yard down
the left sideline, He had the thirty two yarder at
the end of the game, same thing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, he's had to share drops as well and then
catch h.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Evan Ingram has had some drops, but you know what,
he had a couple of nice plays yesterday too. And
the only guy that I haven't talked about and drops
is Pat Bryan. Pat Bryant is phenomenal. Yes, I am unbelievable,
and I know you are too, an unbelievable fan, Pat Bryants.
And not even just for the big play he had
yesterday on the corner Roud, just every single time the
ball comes his way, he fights for that first down.
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And to have that awareness as a rookie, I don't
think we give him enough love for that to have
the awareness of like, I'm catching this bullet behind the
sticks and I'm not going to be denied. And and
he's done that over and over and over again so
many times. I think when you're you're a young player,
it's all so fast, and it's it's tough, it's you're
in the moment of the game, and you just I
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caught the ball and then I'm gonna, you know, try
to make sure I hold onto the ball. And it's
like you're not just holding out of the ball. He's
fighting for those extra yards and every single time it
is mattered.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
And he's a good blocker. On top of that, it's
a really good block and he's earned more targets and
he's killing them and and that's just going to continue.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You could see, he's the real deal. What do you
do about drops?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
To me, it's a concentration focus in some cases, maybe technique.
You can work on your technique on the on the
jugs gun or the jugs machined uh. And we see
them do that all the time in practice.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Those drop passes bothered Dave Logan more than anybody. Yes,
Dave a ten year vet wide receiver and you don't
me sitting there next to him when they drop past it.
He may not say anything, but I could see his reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
It just drives him crazy. And Dave also a coach
as well. It drives coaches crazy. And can you fix that?
I think you can. And sometimes it's just a matter
of slowing the game down a little bit, just a
little bit, because these guys will try to run before
they catch it sometime. You know, you got to settle in.
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I do think you can fix that. And you're right.
They have as many or more drops than any team
in the league. And if you took we talked about
this too a couple of weeks ago, if they caught
half of those passes, they might be undefeated right now,
for real, not making that up. That's how many drops
they've had in just about every single game at critical times.
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But then they turn around and the same guys are
able to make clutch catches when they really needed And so, yeah,
we haven't seen their best football yet. And they're nine
and two.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, a tie with Jacksonville.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Twenty six drops, So Bonnix and Trevor Lawrence, yep, quarterbacks
with receivers who dropped the ball the most, Broncos with
a better record than Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
We're going to play them, what in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yes, yeah, three weeks or so. Yeah, that's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That's gonna be a big game, really for for I
say more so for Jacksonville, who's trying to hang in there.
But the Broncos. They're all matter. I'm not gonna try
to say that it doesn't matter, because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
The Broncos need to continue to collect wins because they
are eyeing the number one seed, drying.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
A first round by. You're in play for that right now.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Can you believe that.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Says they're they're ahead of schedule.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, and the Sean Payton earra by at least a year.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Maybe because you're still dealing with russ Cap.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Maybe two years ahead of schedule, Yeah, nine to two
playing for a first round by where all you have
to do is win two football games and you're in
the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So when I say both of them at home, yeah,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
So when I say that Jacksonville Night might need that more,
it's more because they're they're hanging in there right now
in the playoff picture, So they have to collect wins
just to sort of stay ahead of some of these
other teams like Kansas City, who's going to be kind
of nipping at their heels, but they have a tiebreaker
on them.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Chiefs are in a bad way.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I mean Chiefs are in a really bad way with
losses to the Chargers, Jacksonville Jaguars and the Buffalo Bills,
the three wild card teams. Chiefs have got some ground
to make up for, and they're having a little bit
of identity crisis right now.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I was on the Chiefs radio station earlier today and.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I was like, asked, do you think we're a playoff team, which,
by the way, just from macro perspective.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Wait wait, they asked you, Yeah, if you thought the
Broncos were a playoff.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
If the Chiefs, the Chiefs are still a playoff team,
what'd you say? I said, the talent and the coaching
still make I mean, Mahomes, I'm not ready to say
that the dynasty is over for them. They still seem
like one of the most dangerous teams in the league
to me. But at the same time, he didn't play
a great game. They look like a team that is
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maybe aging out a little bit. They've leaned on and
bought into and continued to bring back the same guys,
and they they're starting to look a little old. So
you hesitate because so many years people did this with
the Patriots. You hesitate to be that guy where you're saying.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's over, it's done. But considering the math and this
is what I told.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I said, considering the math of the teams you've already
lost to, and you still have the Colts and the Texans,
two teams that are definitely looking at you as chump
in the water right now, the things can get very
scary for.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
The Chiefs that they don't start collecting some more wins.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
You know, that's the first time I've seen the body
language from Patrick Mahomes. I defeated body language. I don't
think I've ever seen that. And you know, nine years
and a heck of a run for them, is that
the end of the dynasty. I bet it crossed his
mind for a second just looking at them on the field.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Seemed like it.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
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Speaker 6 (21:22):
These kind of games that we've had this season They're
just so fun and just so much easier to call
when you're winning football then the past. You know, the
first seven years I've been doing this, just grinding it
out through losses, and it's still fun, but it's way
more fun and much easier when they're playing football like
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this well and understandably.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean, first of all, the games are very entertaining.
I mean, I think is very stressful for a lot
of Broncos fans. Last night, I react quite a few
people calling in and texting in saying, I really love
this team so much, but do you think that they
can make some of these things easier, just a little
bit easier. But yeah, the entertainment level of it is very,
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very high and dramatic. I mean, it's a very dramatic
products right now, but usually leaning on the side of
good because they win these games. If it would be
the other way, I guess if it's dramatic and they
fight a way to what is a snatch defeat from
the jaws of victory, wait, different conversation, and.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
It feels like the Broncos are only the talk of
the league when things aren't looking so good, like this
win yesterday. I don't feel like nobody's really talking about
them nationally like they should be. They talk about them
a lot when things are rough because bo is struggling
and Peyton needs to hand over the play calling duties.
(22:47):
That's always been a big topic. But they win the
biggest game they've won in the last ten years. I
don't really see a real buzz on them right now.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, the conversation today, at least from my advantage, and
maybe as the week goes on it'll shift a little
bit more to the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
But there's a lot more.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Of the is the dynasty dead for the Chiefs, which
is understandable to a certain extent because of who they've been.
That was what I saw most because I went through
quite a few national like you did, you know, kind
of listening to some national radio, national podcasts, some national
TV stuff, and you know, kind of bouncing around, and
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most of them, if they gave the Broncos some love,
it would be at the defense once again, playing a
great game. Bo Nicks had a couple of nice passes.
One podcast still said he looked a little shaky to that.
I'm like, come on, man, like what are we doing here?
But all of them, universally Rick covered it from what's
wrong with Kansas City? Is this team even a playoff
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team this year? And is this the end that is?
Because that's probably more the national headline anyways. Right It's like,
you know, when you're covering the Lakers, it's either the
win and loss, and it's not really about what the
other team did.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
It's about whether.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
They won or they lost, you know, And that's because
lebron and that's that's how you have to cover that team.
So I do get it, but it does seem a
little bit frustrating at times. I think if you're a
Broncos fan and you wake up and you're fired up
about the win, and holy cow, everybody's gonna be celebrating.
As for the top of the AFC, we should be
the talk of the NFL right now, and instead it's like.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
What's going on with the Chiefs?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Hey, let me let me throw out a hot take
about what's going on with the Chiefs right now.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
That makes sense though they've been they've had the dynasty
and they've been the talk of the NFL for a
long time now. That totally makes sense. But this game
I felt like legitimizes the Denver Broncos. Yes, and it
hadn't been pretty. We know that, and the league knows that.
Around the country, they know it hadn't been pretty. But
I thought this game of particular, you can now say
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this team, you can put them in the super Bowl
contender category.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
In my opinion, that unquestionably, unquestionably no. I mean that's
and I think in part of that is because of
how open the AFC is, right, And I mean, if
they're gonna have home field in the first round, they
might even have a first round by And if you're
in home field or first round by category, you're in
a super Bowl contender category. And like we said a
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little bit earlier, you still haven't seen the best from
the offense. I think the defense is what they are.
They're gonna get healthier, by the way, Tom Pellisero and
I think Ben also echoing this, there's hope and expectation
that patser Tan and Alex Singleton are back. So not
only are you performing at a high levels of defense,
you're about to get healthier. And then you think the
offense still has another gear, maybe even a couple more gears.
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It's all right there. It absolutely is all right there.
Bonix joined voice the Broncos Dave Logan after the game,
we bring.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
This to you on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Here was that conversation down to the locker room and
talk with the starting quarterback of the Broncos, Bonix Bowe.
It's Dave Logan. Congratulations, hard fut game. It seemed like
you guys on that first drive just seemed to be different.
You have to settle for a field goal, but it
was a what was it like, a fourteen play fifty
four yard drive. You got things going early, a couple
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of huge third down conversions as well.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, we threw the ball early.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
We did a good job of kind of spread them out,
you know, throwing the football completions, just moving them laterally.
And then our guys did well on third downs and
we come, uh, you know, completed a few and that
third down we knew was going to be the.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Uh, the name of the game.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
And you know, we did well on third down starting
at the beginning of the game and leading all the
way to the warm game.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Your first drive in the second half after the interception,
there was a I think block in the back. So
you start on your eleven you have an eighty nine
yard drive in a tie game eleven plays in over
six minutes. I mean, it just seemed like that that
drive sort of set the tone for a really competitive
second half against a good team.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
Yeah, that just kind of got us back going again.
And you know, we used some tempo and got to
the ball and we did a good job of began
throwing it. You know, I'm kind of down the field
and starting off high, and I think, Overaul, that's you know,
what we're good at. When we get going and we
get you know, moving pretty quick and the defense is
a little tired on the drive, they can't rush as
good and they can't get all their calls in because
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they're just having a hurry up. So against the defense
like that that likes the pressure, I think, you know,
some tempo goes a long way.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'll get you out of here with this.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I mean, you get the ball back four minutes and
change on your own twenty six. You get a holding
calls third and fifteen, and I in hindsight, I've called
this so far the play of the year. You step
up and you're flushed right throwing the run and Cordy
goes down and makes the catch. Walk us through that
play a little bit and what you saw.
Speaker 11 (27:40):
Well, they played a two man and they got out
there on the incut and they did a good job
of playing undern eaighth court. But he immediately saw me
move and he just kind of readjusted it and went
back out and there was a deep incut and he
was already passing the first down marker.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
But on a play like that, it's sort of like,
you know, where's fourteen, where's our guy at the don't
make a play against anybody any coverage.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
And he was just you know, at this point, it's
like second nature for me and him.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Just I got out of the pocket. He immediately saw it.
I knew what he was about to do, and it's
all about throwing and catching the ball and completing it
at that point. After that, you know, it feels easy
after you get a third and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Hey, congratulations, man, enjoy this win, get a get a
little bit of downtime, and I'll see you when we get.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Back at it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, enjoyed the great I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's bow Nicks in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And that was a perfectly way, a perfect way to
describe that play. That twenty yard completion on the third
and fifteen, and just how Corlan Sutton sort of mirrored
him as he went into scrambled really climbed the pocket
and Corland reversed course. And I think Dave had a
really nice breakdown of it earlier where he was talking
about how the dB just was kind of slow to
react to that because I didn't think he saw Bo
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scramble out and maybe lost track of court a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
And I think great ball placement on it.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Cortland didn't get hit up high, he got down low
where he was able to sort of cradle it to the.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Ground get the first down. And you didn't feel at
that moment.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I know you said Rick that you didn't think that
there was a moment where the Broncos were going to
lose that game. But I think for a lot of
Broncos fans that was the moment where a lot of
them believe they were gonna win it, and.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
As they should. And Bow was on point yesterday. He
was just on point the whole time. I think it's
the best version we've seen of him. The stats don't
jump off the page at you, but still in that
ten day break between the Raiders and yesterday Bow grew up.
He's now stepping up in the pocket and keeping his
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mechanics together and going through progressions. Another thing that you
can see when you're there. I don't know if you
can see it on TV, but you could see him
going through progression he did. Up to this point, it's
been he'd take one look and then he starts to
kind of panic a little bit and try to bust
out of the pocket and make a play. This time
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he was hanging in there. And when you step up
in the pocket, man, it just opens up, passing lanes,
all kinds of things open up for you. And he
was on point the entire game. That's the best version
of bon Nick's and he's going to keep getting better.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Mahomes will be sacked back at the thirty two yard.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Line, and that was Ja Kwan McMillan throws a ball
that is intercepted at the five, intercepted in on the
way Ja Kwan McMillan flits on the way. Mahomes deep
drop is going to be hitcked heads sacked back inside
the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
J Kwon McMillan.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I guess some of the national covers that been tends
to rant about I been.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
You guys wonder why I laugh at that stuff. Steve
nay Smith isn't in the first clue about the Denver Broncos.
Why do you care what his opinion is?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
I don't care as much about his opinion people, What
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What do you mean? You people?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
There are some national analysts that I do care about
their opinion, and I think it's interesting to get that information.
But also in context of they don't cover the team
every single day and you have to know that. But
I think when you say things like that, then it
becomes a bit of a punchline, like him saying like, well,
he's not even really getting opportunities until it passer ten
(31:13):
went down.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
It's like, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
If you said that about Chris Abrams Strain or maybe
Jade Baron like some of these other guys that have
had fewer snaps as a result, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
But this isn't that.
Speaker 12 (31:24):
Steve Nasmith has no clue who our starting nickel is, Like,
he doesn't even have basic roster down for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
His opinion is not relevant, Okay, Like, why.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
Do you guys tune in and prop that those guys
make money off you tuning in and ranting at them.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
So are you saying I shouldn't be tweeting at Nick Wright,
or I'm saying that if you wanted to make some
money for yourself, you could in fact offer Nick Right
a maybe a wager of sorts that he would ignore,
but the entirety of Broncos country would pick up and
continually badger him with Boy, he got roasted. I mean
(31:59):
he garan teed the Chiefs win. Yeah, that was pretty funny.
I had some fun with tweeting at him last night.
I typically ignore him because he's He's an engagement guy.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It's really all, and that says that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 12 (32:14):
What he did back in the beginning of the year
saying that Broncos would finish last in the division, the
Raiders would be in the playoffs, and the chief should
win the division. So I offered him a ten thousand
dollars bet for any or all of those outcomes, and
of course he didn't take it. Gambling problem caller text
one eight hundred gambler. I don't think that's a gambling problem.
I think that's missed opportunity gambling problem caller texts one
eight hundred.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Gambler, I think grant it's actually right here. I think
that's a free money. By the way, you almost got there.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I was closed one night.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
You almost got there, almost got yourself a Chris bin Franklin.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Well, the people on Twitter, by the way, lobbying that
I should have.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
To pay you half.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I agree with the people of Twitter, of course you do. Well,
what's what's the song?
Speaker 12 (32:49):
Grat out of nowhere suggested that the Broncos are going
to march right down the fields and score a touchdown
with a touchdown pass Detroy Franklin. Oh boy, they marched
right down the field and kicked a field gold Will
Latt's yeah. And I think the design of the touchdown
was supposed to go to to RJ in the flat
but still and I was like, if that happens, I'll
(33:10):
offer you.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I won't you don't owe me anything. I will pay
you one hundred dollars if that happens. And it didn't,
Oh man, I would have been rooting so hard for that.
I think everyone was ever was. And it's not even
just the money at that point, it's the bragging rights.
Speaker 12 (33:23):
Yeah, you walked off and called out on a Friday
night or what did you call that, Thursday?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Thursday.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I also said that they would lose the toss and
get the ball.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
Yeah, he said they would lose the toss, get the ball,
march right down the field and score a touchdown with
Troy Franklin. And so Twitter was like, well, Ben, you
got to you gotta give my crisp Ulysses here instead
of a Ben Franklin.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
And I'm like, it was all or nothing, All or nothing,
Let me be cake, let me eat cake. Rick, You're the
absolute best.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I was still thrilled we got to do the show
today reacting to that game.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Thanks for the time, man, me too.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Man, It's it's always my pleasure Ryan, Ben, you guys
have a happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
If I don't see you or talk to you before,
then all right.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
You enjoyed the bye week, indeed, indeed, grant great job
as always, my friend, BC Team Next
This ball will be spotted right between the hash marks
at the twenty five an attempt of thirty five yards
against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I won't even mention it.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Snap placement, kick on the way and it is cut.
They don't block this one like last year in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And on the final play of the game, the Denver
Broncos have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs by a final
score of twenty two to nineteen.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
What a game, what a finish Broncos. I mean a
lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Did what the Chiefs tend to do, which is they
get the ball win, don't give the opposition any chance
to amount any kind of comeback. Right, and then the
third and fifteen play, I mean, just for a moment here,
a third and fifteen play to Cortland sudden that right
there was kind of the game in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Bo times the pocket throws a ball that is caught
out over the forty yard line, and that'll be a
first down court a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sudden how about you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Fourteen twenty yards on a third and fifteen, Knicks stayed
in the pocket, then climbed it, threw a ball on
the run.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
The court went down to cradle, but it's.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
A first down for the Broncos at the two minute.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Warning, money money throw, money catch.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
At that moment, I thought they were gonna win it.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh yeah, even though they were still on the negative
side of the fifty, right, they were still on their
side of the fifty. I was like, you know what,
that was the play that they needed that play because
if they would have given it back to the Chiefs,
they would have had about a two minutes left in
the game. And it's like prime Patrick Mahomes, like, that's
what he does, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Honestly, there was never a point in that game I
thought they were going to lose. Really, yeah, even when
Kelsey scored that touchdown. I just feel like this team
has that special next gear that they go into when
they really need to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I never thought they were going to lose that game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's might just be one of those years, folks.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, it might just be.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And that is so true.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Man, there's something about this season about this football team.
And enjoy it, Broncos Country. This doesn't happen all that
often in the National Football League, and especially from where
this team has come over the last ten years to now.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Man, enjoy every single win shout out by.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
The way to Frank Crumb. The block extra point that
was so significant. Now again you're thinking in terms of, well,
you know they won twenty two to nineteen. But what
was so important about that is it changed the math
there at the end of the game, because that means
when they attempt at the Broncos attempt at the fifty
four yard er with Will Lutz, it was to tie
the game. Now, you might still be doing that at
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that time, but it would have changed maybe the way
Kansas City because they would have been leading twenty to nineteen.
Let's just say that Willis converts that in the leading
twenty to nineteen, their mindset might be a little different.
Maybe they're running clock, maybe they're handing the ball off
instead of attempting to try to move down the field. Right,
it changes the entire dynamic of that last four minutes
(03:00):
and change when the Chiefs got the ball, the Broncos
interviewing a sack, punted it back to the Broncos, and
then they never gave it back after that point.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
They ended up us getting the field goal with Will.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Let's what it is is like that all could have
changed if the block extra point hadn't happened.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Rank Crumb the prime of Laramie Wyoming, yep. And man,
you should have seen him on the sideline after that
helmet off, that golden hair flowing, celebrating with everybody on
the Broncos sideline. That's the first big thing he's done
as a professional football player, and that was a big one.
Like you said, Yeah, special special feeling that we get
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from this football team, and it's so fun to share
it with you, and you and I talk a lot
during the week. We talk a lot. In the pregame.
We kind of had a feeling that it was going
to be a field goal game. It was going to
come down to a field goal game, because that's kind
of how this whole season is going. And you got
to feel pretty good about our field goal kicker, Will
Nuts five for five in the game, and he's been
(03:58):
clutched as well. I was just back talking to our boss,
Tepper about this. We are as a broadcast crew, we're
like an NFL team, not just those of us behind
the mic. Everybody that's involved in this broadcast behind the
scenes on the mic. We are a team, and most
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of us on this broadcast team have never experienced a
season like this, you know, Dave Logan, it's called Super Bowls.
This crew has not, And so I was telling Temperate
just how special it feels, you know, because you get
a brotherhood when you're doing this. We're a team, we're brothers,
you know, and we're going to battle every week, you know,
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doing our thing, and man, it's just a great feeling
to do it with people you care about and people
that are so good at their jobs. I just feel
so honored and so blessed to be a.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Part of it, perfectly said my friend. Well said, now
I completely agree with you on that. A couple of
texts here five six six nine zero, Ryan and Rick.
This is the most I have been about the Broncos
since the Super Bowl fifty season. Philadelphia game felt good,
but this one feels different. The deck of cars was
stacked against the Broncos yesterday, from injuries to officiating chiefs
being desperate. Broncos were not supposed to win that game,
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but they persevered through all the adversity, and that has
become their identity.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They are mentally and physically tough football team.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Shout at Sean Payton for his excellent game management yesterday.
And Darren Rizzy for getting a special teams group ready
to go. As Dave said, it just might be one
of those years. Go Broncos, Dylan and Charlotte. I think
it's perfectly said there, Dylan. I mean that's there's a
certain amount of when you think back to the Super
Bowl fifty season, and again, like you said, we weren't
on the broadcast at that time, but of course we
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were football fans and Broncos fans living here. That is
the feeling of inevitability, the feeling of no matter what
was happening, there was going to be a play made.
And that was kind of where I was coming at
it from last week when we were breaking this game down,
and even when I had been on and he scoffed
at me when I said, I think the Broncos are
gonna win game.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Shout out to Ben for being wrong again.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was coming at it from the again vibe, don't
play the drop. I was playing coming on from how
they have been, how they continue to stay present in
the moment and win those games, win despite everything else
tells you. To Dylan's point, the injuries coming into it,
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finding out JK. Dobbs is out for the year right beforehand,
knowing you weren't gonna be without Patrick, knowing you're without
your green Dots, your captain on defense, and Alex Singleton,
I mean, knowing all of that, and the Chiefs had
a bye week, you had Andy Reid who's twenty one
to four.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Coming off of bye weeks.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Like all of those things, it all seemed like there
was absolutely no reason whatsoever to tell yourself that the
Broncos could win this game. I had people, Chiefs, fans,
or otherwise telling me that there was gonna be a blowout,
It's gonna be like forty to ten in this game,
and I just was like, I just refuse to believe that.
I'm more in line with you. I think it's going
to be close game one way or the other. Whoever
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has the ball last probably going to be the difference
in the game. And because of all that, I like
the Broncos chances, especially at home.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yeah, Broncos had the longest they do have the longest
home game winning streak active and going into the game
at home four and a half point dogs. Really wow, Okay,
And I think not too many people thought like we did,
that it was going to be a field goal game,
and we know we said I don't know if we
(07:34):
said it publicly, but I know you did, and I
know I told that same thing to you as we
were doing going through our game prep and all of that.
And I want to give big props to coach Peyton too.
There's been a lot of people questioning him the last
several weeks that they should maybe switch play callers, that
he's a good play designer. He's not a good game
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play caller. He really earned his money yesterday. He designed
some really nice plays. He had wide open receivers a
lot in that game that they schemed opened, and he
called a good game other than the RJ.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Harvey throw the trick play.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
But I thought Sean Payton maybe this was his best
game too as a play caller play designer.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Sean Payton didn't just fall off the turnip truck. He
did not.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
No, he did not, And coaches like him in games
like that, that's when they earn their mindy like his.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Did you hear the one eight nines thing in the
post game?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It was really phenomenal, So he was he was talking
about again all the players that had to sort of
step up and the culture that they've been building. And
I'll read you the quote, and I have a little
bit of sound here for this, but he said, he said, look,
it's not me, it's training for your culture.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It's like Nick Saban.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
There's this Nick Saban quote about toughness really not necessarily
about physical but the mental and how much you can take.
And he likened it to hurricane windows. You can get
the one thirty nines, the one to fifties of the
one to eighty nines. Obviously if you go up, they
cost more. So I went through the same thing with
a beach house, and it's fine in the one eight nines,
and sometimes you got to pass on something that might
(09:16):
look attractive. But it's finding those guys that can tune
out the noise. There's been a lot of noise, not
just and then he fail off. He's like, I won't
come on a comment on that, but anyway, I hear
some of the narratives and I just want to cry.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
But anyway, it is what it is. That's your job.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
That's our job, the focus and the wins, and to
focus on the right way to win each game.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He also said this, and he likened it back to what.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Happened in the Kansas City game last year with the
block field goal, and how you have to have the
right guys in the locker room with the right mentality
to be able to survive that and not only survived,
but also get better from it.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
So this was really cool.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
I think that loss in Kansas City was where the
one eighty nine miles per hour was tested, and that
was a tough, gut wrenching loss. But I think there
was a feeling, and if you look at our record
from that loss, there was a feeling that you know,
we belong here, and there's either wins or losses. But
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the response after that game last year with the block
field goal, you.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Know, was.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Super and so there was some irony obviously when we
were taking a knee to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Kick the field goal. But I just, you know, I.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Think that that confidence thing that we always talk about
exists in that locker room with these this group of guys.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's special.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
You know, they'll have some time to recover and then
get ready for that next stretch of six games. I
think we're three home, three away, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So again, the mindset of sort ofwithstanding whatever you have
to the one eight nine's right saying hey, you have to.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I mean, look, it's it's not always gonna be used
to to.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Hang in use to hang in there. It's gonna be tough.
You got to survive it. And you've seen that. It's
why you have the best point differential in the fourth
quarter of the NFL right now.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
It'll being around this team, like we are traveling with
the team, you get to see them in intimate settings
and how they really are. And I mentioned this a
couple of weeks ago, those first two tough losses, at
the end of the game, they never were down on themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
They weren't hanging their heads.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
They knew they were a good football team, and they
knew that they were going to bounce back from that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
They I was so impressed with that fact.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
I was a little perplexed by it at first, Like, Wow,
these guys really believe in themselves and they that's a
special thing. When you can get fifty three guys that
are all together as a team as a family, that
have bought in, and that's what's happened with this football team.
You've got something special, and you've got an elite defense.
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And I still think that defense wins championships in the NFL.
I still believe that the last time it happened for
the Broncos, that's exactly how it went. The defense were
the ones that won that Super Bowl year. Peyton Manning
was the quarterback. He had the brain, but he didn't
have the physical skills anymore. And they struggled throughout the
year with Peyton Manning, but the defense carried them that year.
(12:23):
But the offense was good enough. I think this offense
is good enough with an elite defense.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Well, I think this offense is a chance to be
better too, like what they were as an offense, I
think by down the stretch. And this is my opinion
on it, but I mean, I'm sure the guys that
played the game at that time maybe feel a little
different about it. But I thought they were sort of
tapped out. They were topped out, if you will, on
what they were going to be.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You know, CJ.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Anderson was very good, right, And of course you had
DT and you had a lot of vets there. You
had a lot of experience there, but limitations, and the
limitations were hits your ceiling. It was a lot about
supporting and playing complimentary to the defense like that became
the identity of the team. There's another level to this offense.
(13:08):
As I said here today, I refuse to believe get
me talking, I refuse to believe that we have to
top out at just being complimentary to the defense. You
don't want to mess things up for the defense. You
don't want to put the defense in a bad position.
But simultaneously, you've gotta be more. You've got to expect more,
and I expect more from Vo Nicks being complimentary for
(13:31):
now while you're still figuring things out. Okay, live with that.
That cannot be the long play here. The long play
has to be much better.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
You agree, Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
A good offense starts with an offensive line and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I believe they have that in place.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
And as you said, they're going to get better because
they have as sending players Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin, both
those guys are going to get better. I think Marvin
Mims will continue to get better. And you got Courtland Sutton,
rock solid white receiver, clutch guy, third down, throw it
to Courtland Sutton. R. J. Harvey is an ascending player
and we haven't even really touched in his capacity of talent.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
That pool of talent that he had.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
You reeled off all of his stats from college running
the football. We haven't seen that yet, and I do
feel like we're going to see that. So, yeah, this
offense is getting better and it should get better as
the season goes on, to go along with that big
time defense.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I mean they do not, No, that have to be
a stat that we lean on because you're nine to two,
that's the stat that really matters the most. But you
are leading the league drops right now from your receiving
corps and that's just a fact. So if we're talking
about and projecting out for the final six games and
heading into the postseason, I don't even know how you
(14:51):
curtail that because it's at eleven games end of the season,
and I guess a stat like that is what you
are getting improved as you should.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Wanted to improve, But how does it improve? Because Troy
had a couple of tough drops yesterday?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Did he not? Right now?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And he's done that quite a bit this season.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
He absolutely has. But then he came up clutch, he
did when you needed him to. And he's done that too,
yes he has. So it's like you don't take him
off the field, right, You don't take.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Him off the field because he has drops, because you
know later on he had the thirty five yard down
the left sideline, He had the thirty two yarder at
the end of the game, same thing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, he's had to share drops as well and then
catch h.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Evan Ingram has had some drops, but you know what,
he had a couple of nice plays yesterday too. And
the only guy that I haven't talked about and drops
is Pat Bryan. Pat Bryant is phenomenal. Yes, I am unbelievable,
and I know you are too, an unbelievable fan, Pat Bryants.
And not even just for the big play he had
yesterday on the corner Roud, just every single time the
ball comes his way, he fights for that first down.
(15:55):
And to have that awareness as a rookie, I don't
think we give him enough love for that to have
the awareness of like, I'm catching this bullet behind the
sticks and I'm not going to be denied. And and
he's done that over and over and over again so
many times. I think when you're you're a young player,
it's all so fast, and it's it's tough, it's you're
in the moment of the game, and you just I
(16:15):
caught the ball and then I'm gonna, you know, try
to make sure I hold onto the ball. And it's
like you're not just holding out of the ball. He's
fighting for those extra yards and every single time it
is mattered.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
And he's a good blocker. On top of that, it's
a really good block and he's earned more targets and
he's killing them and and that's just going to continue.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You could see, he's the real deal. What do you
do about drops?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
To me, it's a concentration focus in some cases, maybe technique.
You can work on your technique on the on the
jugs gun or the jugs machined uh. And we see
them do that all the time in practice.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Those drop passes bothered Dave Logan more than anybody. Yes,
Dave a ten year vet wide receiver and you don't
me sitting there next to him when they drop past it.
He may not say anything, but I could see his reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
It just drives him crazy. And Dave also a coach
as well. It drives coaches crazy. And can you fix that?
I think you can. And sometimes it's just a matter
of slowing the game down a little bit, just a
little bit, because these guys will try to run before
they catch it sometime. You know, you got to settle in.
(17:26):
I do think you can fix that. And you're right.
They have as many or more drops than any team
in the league. And if you took we talked about
this too a couple of weeks ago, if they caught
half of those passes, they might be undefeated right now,
for real, not making that up. That's how many drops
they've had in just about every single game at critical times.
(17:47):
But then they turn around and the same guys are
able to make clutch catches when they really needed And so, yeah,
we haven't seen their best football yet. And they're nine
and two.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, a tie with Jacksonville.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Twenty six drops, So Bonnix and Trevor Lawrence, yep, quarterbacks
with receivers who dropped the ball the most, Broncos with
a better record than Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
We're going to play them, what in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yes, yeah, three weeks or so. Yeah, that's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That's gonna be a big game, really for for I
say more so for Jacksonville, who's trying to hang in there.
But the Broncos. They're all matter. I'm not gonna try
to say that it doesn't matter, because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
The Broncos need to continue to collect wins because they
are eyeing the number one seed, drying.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
A first round by. You're in play for that right now.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Can you believe that.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Says they're they're ahead of schedule.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, and the Sean Payton earra by at least a year.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Maybe because you're still dealing with russ Cap.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Maybe two years ahead of schedule, Yeah, nine to two
playing for a first round by where all you have
to do is win two football games and you're in
the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So when I say both of them at home, yeah,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
So when I say that Jacksonville Night might need that more,
it's more because they're they're hanging in there right now
in the playoff picture, So they have to collect wins
just to sort of stay ahead of some of these
other teams like Kansas City, who's going to be kind
of nipping at their heels, but they have a tiebreaker
on them.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Chiefs are in a bad way.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I mean Chiefs are in a really bad way with
losses to the Chargers, Jacksonville Jaguars and the Buffalo Bills,
the three wild card teams. Chiefs have got some ground
to make up for, and they're having a little bit
of identity crisis right now.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I was on the Chiefs radio station earlier today and.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I was like, asked, do you think we're a playoff team, which,
by the way, just from macro perspective.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Wait wait, they asked you, Yeah, if you thought the
Broncos were a playoff.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
If the Chiefs, the Chiefs are still a playoff team,
what'd you say? I said, the talent and the coaching
still make I mean, Mahomes, I'm not ready to say
that the dynasty is over for them. They still seem
like one of the most dangerous teams in the league
to me. But at the same time, he didn't play
a great game. They look like a team that is
(20:09):
maybe aging out a little bit. They've leaned on and
bought into and continued to bring back the same guys,
and they they're starting to look a little old. So
you hesitate because so many years people did this with
the Patriots. You hesitate to be that guy where you're saying.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's over, it's done. But considering the math and this
is what I told.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I said, considering the math of the teams you've already
lost to, and you still have the Colts and the Texans,
two teams that are definitely looking at you as chump
in the water right now, the things can get very
scary for.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
The Chiefs that they don't start collecting some more wins.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
You know, that's the first time I've seen the body
language from Patrick Mahomes. I defeated body language. I don't
think I've ever seen that. And you know, nine years
and a heck of a run for them, is that
the end of the dynasty. I bet it crossed his
mind for a second just looking at them on the field.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Seemed like it.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
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Speaker 6 (21:22):
These kind of games that we've had this season They're
just so fun and just so much easier to call
when you're winning football then the past. You know, the
first seven years I've been doing this, just grinding it
out through losses, and it's still fun, but it's way
more fun and much easier when they're playing football like
(21:44):
this well and understandably.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean, first of all, the games are very entertaining.
I mean, I think is very stressful for a lot
of Broncos fans. Last night, I react quite a few
people calling in and texting in saying, I really love
this team so much, but do you think that they
can make some of these things easier, just a little
bit easier. But yeah, the entertainment level of it is very,
(22:07):
very high and dramatic. I mean, it's a very dramatic
products right now, but usually leaning on the side of
good because they win these games. If it would be
the other way, I guess if it's dramatic and they
fight a way to what is a snatch defeat from
the jaws of victory, wait, different conversation, and.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
It feels like the Broncos are only the talk of
the league when things aren't looking so good, like this
win yesterday. I don't feel like nobody's really talking about
them nationally like they should be. They talk about them
a lot when things are rough because bo is struggling
and Peyton needs to hand over the play calling duties.
(22:47):
That's always been a big topic. But they win the
biggest game they've won in the last ten years. I
don't really see a real buzz on them right now.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, the conversation today, at least from my advantage, and
maybe as the week goes on it'll shift a little
bit more to the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
But there's a lot more.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Of the is the dynasty dead for the Chiefs, which
is understandable to a certain extent because of who they've been.
That was what I saw most because I went through
quite a few national like you did, you know, kind
of listening to some national radio, national podcasts, some national
TV stuff, and you know, kind of bouncing around, and
(23:23):
most of them, if they gave the Broncos some love,
it would be at the defense once again, playing a
great game. Bo Nicks had a couple of nice passes.
One podcast still said he looked a little shaky to that.
I'm like, come on, man, like what are we doing here?
But all of them, universally Rick covered it from what's
wrong with Kansas City? Is this team even a playoff
(23:44):
team this year? And is this the end that is?
Because that's probably more the national headline anyways. Right It's like,
you know, when you're covering the Lakers, it's either the
win and loss, and it's not really about what the
other team did.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
It's about whether.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
They won or they lost, you know, And that's because
lebron and that's that's how you have to cover that team.
So I do get it, but it does seem a
little bit frustrating at times. I think if you're a
Broncos fan and you wake up and you're fired up
about the win, and holy cow, everybody's gonna be celebrating.
As for the top of the AFC, we should be
the talk of the NFL right now, and instead it's like.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
What's going on with the Chiefs?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Hey, let me let me throw out a hot take
about what's going on with the Chiefs right now.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
That makes sense though they've been they've had the dynasty
and they've been the talk of the NFL for a
long time now. That totally makes sense. But this game
I felt like legitimizes the Denver Broncos. Yes, and it
hadn't been pretty. We know that, and the league knows that.
Around the country, they know it hadn't been pretty. But
I thought this game of particular, you can now say
(24:46):
this team, you can put them in the super Bowl
contender category.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
In my opinion, that unquestionably, unquestionably no. I mean that's
and I think in part of that is because of
how open the AFC is, right, And I mean, if
they're gonna have home field in the first round, they
might even have a first round by And if you're
in home field or first round by category, you're in
a super Bowl contender category. And like we said a
(25:12):
little bit earlier, you still haven't seen the best from
the offense. I think the defense is what they are.
They're gonna get healthier, by the way, Tom Pellisero and
I think Ben also echoing this, there's hope and expectation
that patser Tan and Alex Singleton are back. So not
only are you performing at a high levels of defense,
you're about to get healthier. And then you think the
offense still has another gear, maybe even a couple more gears.
(25:33):
It's all right there. It absolutely is all right there.
Bonix joined voice the Broncos Dave Logan after the game,
we bring.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
This to you on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Here was that conversation down to the locker room and
talk with the starting quarterback of the Broncos, Bonix Bowe.
It's Dave Logan. Congratulations, hard fut game. It seemed like
you guys on that first drive just seemed to be different.
You have to settle for a field goal, but it
was a what was it like, a fourteen play fifty
four yard drive. You got things going early, a couple
(26:00):
of huge third down conversions as well.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, we threw the ball early.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
We did a good job of kind of spread them out,
you know, throwing the football completions, just moving them laterally.
And then our guys did well on third downs and
we come, uh, you know, completed a few and that
third down we knew was going to be the.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Uh, the name of the game.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
And you know, we did well on third down starting
at the beginning of the game and leading all the
way to the warm game.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Your first drive in the second half after the interception,
there was a I think block in the back. So
you start on your eleven you have an eighty nine
yard drive in a tie game eleven plays in over
six minutes. I mean, it just seemed like that that
drive sort of set the tone for a really competitive
second half against a good team.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
Yeah, that just kind of got us back going again.
And you know, we used some tempo and got to
the ball and we did a good job of began
throwing it. You know, I'm kind of down the field
and starting off high, and I think, Overaul, that's you know,
what we're good at. When we get going and we
get you know, moving pretty quick and the defense is
a little tired on the drive, they can't rush as
good and they can't get all their calls in because
(27:10):
they're just having a hurry up. So against the defense
like that that likes the pressure, I think, you know,
some tempo goes a long way.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'll get you out of here with this.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I mean, you get the ball back four minutes and
change on your own twenty six. You get a holding
calls third and fifteen, and I in hindsight, I've called
this so far the play of the year. You step
up and you're flushed right throwing the run and Cordy
goes down and makes the catch. Walk us through that
play a little bit and what you saw.
Speaker 11 (27:40):
Well, they played a two man and they got out
there on the incut and they did a good job
of playing undern eaighth court. But he immediately saw me
move and he just kind of readjusted it and went
back out and there was a deep incut and he
was already passing the first down marker.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
But on a play like that, it's sort of like,
you know, where's fourteen, where's our guy at the don't
make a play against anybody any coverage.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
And he was just you know, at this point, it's
like second nature for me and him.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Just I got out of the pocket. He immediately saw it.
I knew what he was about to do, and it's
all about throwing and catching the ball and completing it
at that point. After that, you know, it feels easy
after you get a third and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Hey, congratulations, man, enjoy this win, get a get a
little bit of downtime, and I'll see you when we get.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Back at it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, enjoyed the great I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's bow Nicks in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And that was a perfectly way, a perfect way to
describe that play. That twenty yard completion on the third
and fifteen, and just how Corlan Sutton sort of mirrored
him as he went into scrambled really climbed the pocket
and Corland reversed course. And I think Dave had a
really nice breakdown of it earlier where he was talking
about how the dB just was kind of slow to
react to that because I didn't think he saw Bo
(28:55):
scramble out and maybe lost track of court a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
And I think great ball placement on it.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Cortland didn't get hit up high, he got down low
where he was able to sort of cradle it to the.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Ground get the first down. And you didn't feel at
that moment.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I know you said Rick that you didn't think that
there was a moment where the Broncos were going to
lose that game. But I think for a lot of
Broncos fans that was the moment where a lot of
them believe they were gonna win it, and.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
As they should. And Bow was on point yesterday. He
was just on point the whole time. I think it's
the best version we've seen of him. The stats don't
jump off the page at you, but still in that
ten day break between the Raiders and yesterday Bow grew up.
He's now stepping up in the pocket and keeping his
(29:42):
mechanics together and going through progressions. Another thing that you
can see when you're there. I don't know if you
can see it on TV, but you could see him
going through progression he did. Up to this point, it's
been he'd take one look and then he starts to
kind of panic a little bit and try to bust
out of the pocket and make a play. This time
(30:03):
he was hanging in there. And when you step up
in the pocket, man, it just opens up, passing lanes,
all kinds of things open up for you. And he
was on point the entire game. That's the best version
of bon Nick's and he's going to keep getting better.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Mahomes will be sacked back at the thirty two yard.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Line, and that was Ja Kwan McMillan throws a ball
that is intercepted at the five, intercepted in on the
way Ja Kwan McMillan flits on the way. Mahomes deep
drop is going to be hitcked heads sacked back inside
the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
J Kwon McMillan.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I guess some of the national covers that been tends
to rant about I been.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
You guys wonder why I laugh at that stuff. Steve
nay Smith isn't in the first clue about the Denver Broncos.
Why do you care what his opinion is?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
I don't care as much about his opinion people, What
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What do you mean? You people?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
There are some national analysts that I do care about
their opinion, and I think it's interesting to get that information.
But also in context of they don't cover the team
every single day and you have to know that. But
I think when you say things like that, then it
becomes a bit of a punchline, like him saying like, well,
he's not even really getting opportunities until it passer ten
(31:13):
went down.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
It's like, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
If you said that about Chris Abrams Strain or maybe
Jade Baron like some of these other guys that have
had fewer snaps as a result, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
But this isn't that.
Speaker 12 (31:24):
Steve Nasmith has no clue who our starting nickel is, Like,
he doesn't even have basic roster down for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
His opinion is not relevant, Okay, Like, why.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
Do you guys tune in and prop that those guys
make money off you tuning in and ranting at them.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
So are you saying I shouldn't be tweeting at Nick Wright,
or I'm saying that if you wanted to make some
money for yourself, you could in fact offer Nick Right
a maybe a wager of sorts that he would ignore,
but the entirety of Broncos country would pick up and
continually badger him with Boy, he got roasted. I mean
(31:59):
he garan teed the Chiefs win. Yeah, that was pretty funny.
I had some fun with tweeting at him last night.
I typically ignore him because he's He's an engagement guy.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It's really all, and that says that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 12 (32:14):
What he did back in the beginning of the year
saying that Broncos would finish last in the division, the
Raiders would be in the playoffs, and the chief should
win the division. So I offered him a ten thousand
dollars bet for any or all of those outcomes, and
of course he didn't take it. Gambling problem caller text
one eight hundred gambler. I don't think that's a gambling problem.
I think that's missed opportunity gambling problem caller texts one
eight hundred.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Gambler, I think grant it's actually right here. I think
that's a free money. By the way, you almost got there.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I was closed one night.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
You almost got there, almost got yourself a Chris bin Franklin.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Well, the people on Twitter, by the way, lobbying that
I should have.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
To pay you half.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I agree with the people of Twitter, of course you do. Well,
what's what's the song?
Speaker 12 (32:49):
Grat out of nowhere suggested that the Broncos are going
to march right down the fields and score a touchdown
with a touchdown pass Detroy Franklin. Oh boy, they marched
right down the field and kicked a field gold Will
Latt's yeah. And I think the design of the touchdown
was supposed to go to to RJ in the flat
but still and I was like, if that happens, I'll
(33:10):
offer you.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I won't you don't owe me anything. I will pay
you one hundred dollars if that happens. And it didn't,
Oh man, I would have been rooting so hard for that.
I think everyone was ever was. And it's not even
just the money at that point, it's the bragging rights.
Speaker 12 (33:23):
Yeah, you walked off and called out on a Friday
night or what did you call that, Thursday?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Thursday.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I also said that they would lose the toss and
get the ball.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
Yeah, he said they would lose the toss, get the ball,
march right down the field and score a touchdown with
Troy Franklin. And so Twitter was like, well, Ben, you
got to you gotta give my crisp Ulysses here instead
of a Ben Franklin.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
And I'm like, it was all or nothing, All or nothing,
Let me be cake, let me eat cake. Rick, You're the
absolute best.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I was still thrilled we got to do the show
today reacting to that game.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Thanks for the time, man, me too.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Man, It's it's always my pleasure Ryan, Ben, you guys
have a happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
If I don't see you or talk to you before,
then all right.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
You enjoyed the bye week, indeed, indeed, grant great job
as always, my friend, BC Team Next
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Dateline NBC
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