May 28, 2025 • 41 mins
Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk Otega Oweh's Decision Day, Eric Wolford's raise, and all the latest news.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR pre Show.
Today is Wednesday, May twenty eighth. I am Billy Rutland
along with Shannon the Dude. You can give us a
call on the Clark's Pumping Shop phone line. That's eight
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to you by Italics Fine Italian dining right here in Lexington, Kentucky.
(00:25):
My co host, Shannon the Dude is in Lexington and
he has no weaknesses, folks. He is the perfect person.
He is here ready to go. Good morning, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I can go ahead and point out your weaknesses, and
that is you already screwed up where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm not in Lexington. I'm in Louisville, Billy. I said
I was in Lexington, and might not say you were in.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
LUI said that I am in Lexington. I believe that's
what you said.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Maybe my weakness is I don't listen to you, but
I would say that's a strength. Actually, sometimes it's better
not to listen to your co host, especially when he's
Billy our sports. How you doing, Buddy, I'm good, I'm good.
Guntor Mike's landing sirt On We're going there later this year.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh hell yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm excited for Soul for Greek as much as anybody.
I love Mike's landing. Last year we did the Newlyweds
game there. If you remember that, Shannon, in which I won,
you did you know? Not a weakness of mine knowing
my co host, but it may be of yours.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, don't to You's right, that's why I don't you
don't win Newlywed game.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, uh, maybe you'll listen today and thank you for listening.
If you are out there listening on the radio dial
or on the iHeartRadio app eight five nine two eight
h two two eight seven if you'd like to join us. Uh, Channon,
do you ever do you ever think about your brain
just you know, not working and you saying something stupid
on the air once or twice because I have that fear.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when you're on the air as
much as I am, it's almost impossible for it not
to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, like literally the beginning where I just said you
were in Lexington like that didn't register in my mind.
And that's just such a fear of mine that I'm
gonna black out and say something that I don't remember,
and it's gonna get me canceled.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Sull.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I mean, like, you know, you doing a live show,
would hope to have a good producer who would take
care of you and hit the dump button if that
were to happen, you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Know, but what if the producer doesn't listen to what
you're saying? It's true?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What if the producer is also the host, and you know,
is doing three different things and answering a phone call
and doesn't hear you say that. You know, I would
think that you would, you know, maybe jump in there
and save yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But yeah, I mean, that's always a fear.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Man. That's that's live radio. Everybody thinks they're doing live
radio when they're doing a podcast. That's not radio. All right, No,
it's not even close. If you can go back and
dust it up, you know, and like take all the
blemishes out of it, then that's not live radio.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The beauty of live radio.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Anything could happen in live radio, and I think it
makes you, I think it makes you better something live.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, I don't know about you, but I mean, there
was just such a nervousness and a fear of the
first year or so of doing it. But then you
get comfortable and that red light comes on and it's
just like talking with your friends. But then then some
some times that brain just still stops working, Shannon. So
I don't think you ever fully grow out of it,
and I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You've had a moment. Well.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The art is being comfortable without being too comfortable, because
when you get too.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Comfortable, that's when those things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We know, our guy Ryan Lemon, it's a little too
comfortable every now and then and we'll have to use
the dumb button on him. Speaking of our guy Ryan,
how about him breaking his nose over the weekend but
breathing better afterwards. Somehow it knocked his nose into the
right place where he's breathing a little better, but face
planning into the handle of his trash can as he
was trying.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To move it up under the curb over the way.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm just trying to visualize how that even happens, because
like my trash can comes up to, you know, like
my stomach carrier maybe a little bit higher.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, So I'm just trying to visualize.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Okay, I'm on the grass, I've got my trash can,
and I'm pushing it towards the driveway, which has a
little gap in between, and I'm just trying to figure
out how it would be physically possible for me in
that moment to break my nose on the handles way
down here. I guess Ryan's a little bit shorter, so
maybe it comes up higher on him, right, so maybe
(04:05):
that checks out.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But still, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I feel like that takes some true talent to break
your nose on the side of a garbage can.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm saying maybe it helps the sleep apnea. But our
guy Ryan had a little bit of an eventful weekend,
and not only that, I thought we might be getting
rid of the Android phone. Finally, Shannon, he breaks his
phone over the weekend. But yet he says he's not
getting an iPhone upgrade, He's getting the Android. Yeah, and
you know, we've had these issues for years. But after
(04:33):
was Matt said on the air the other day that
there's actually a security risk of group chats with an
Android phone. With a bunch of iPhones, Shannon, maybe we
do need to finally kick him out of the group.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Cho Well, here's what I was hearing yesterday from Ryan.
It sounds like to me that he spends more money
on the insurance of his phone than the insurance of
his own body. And if you're ensuring an android with
more money than you are your own health, I think
that's a problem right there to begin with. So, you know,
we got to make sure that Ryan has his priority.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Is in check. You've got to make sure that he
is insured more than that stupid android phone.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, he's much more important than protecting what's on the phone.
But I relate with Ryan. I mean, how many times
do you sign something after reading the fine print, Shannon?
I mean the Apple terms and conditions, the you know,
even like you know you should read your contract, Shannon,
but there are times when you just go ahead and
(05:31):
you sign.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It, right, I mean, not a contract, a contract.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'll read a contract maybe a little different than maybe
the the Apple app store.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What you're agreeing to every time?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Down the conditions, the terms and conditions. Everybody's just going
You're just wiping down to the bottom so you can
check the box. Right, nobody's reading all that stuff, And
who knows. I mean, you have to sign it anyway
to you know, get the phone, or to get whatever
app on the phone that you want. So you're signing
away a lot of your privacy. And I think you
realize that anyway, if you're online, if you have any
(06:03):
social media presence at all, or an email address, your
information is already out there. That's why I don't understand
why people freak out when the security breach. Oh my gosh,
they have my information. Look, anybody could people find out
where I live and send me foreign money on the internet. Okay,
it's like there is no privacy. Privacy does not exist.
Once you lou on the Yeah, once you go on
the internet for the first time, your prophecy is gone.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You go on a website and you accept cookies to
join the website, I'm sure that's tracking me somehow.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
She don't even know what that means too, That says cookies,
What do you mean like chocolate? Yeah, I don't even
know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So, yeah, that is something we'll look back on that
maybe we signed away a little too easily. But speaking
of fine print, I watched one of the first episodes
of the new season of Black Mirror, Shannon, are you
a Black Mirror fan?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I watched like one or two episodes, and I just
I feel like that's one of those series that I
should be into, but I just never really got into
it very much.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's so good, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's it's about the dystopian future and how technology can
have these negative side effects and not reading the fine
print went a long way in one of the new episodes.
So I can't recommend it enough. It is a good
show if you're looking for something on Netflix, but read
the fine print, folks, even though I probably won't.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Can I tell you what?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I started watching the record at the recommendation of Ryan yesterday.
Ryan's getting all kinds of talk in this first segment,
I guess, so you know, he recommended the new pee
Wee Herman documentary, and as someone who grew up watching
Peewee's Playhouse as a kid, I was interested in it.
And it's it's actually pretty good. It's a two part series.
(07:39):
I don't know if you really call that a series.
It's just a two part thing documentary, I guess, two
part documentary, and like the first one is an hour
and a half long, so I haven't gotten through that
first one yet. It's alone, but it's interesting seeing the
guy who was like type cast it as pee wee Herman. Right, Nobody,
even a lot of people didn't even know his real
name because he kind of played one character his entire
(08:02):
career after that, and he was.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Talking about an identity crisis.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean it shows like he was on like
the Dating Game. Did you know that pee wee Herman
is on the Dating Game? He actually did. I think
he created the character pee Wee Herman by doing an
improv stand up. He had to do like the each
person in this improv group had to go up and
perform like a comedy routine, but you had to create
a character. And he created this character, pee Wee Herman,
(08:29):
and it took off. It was such a big deal
that then he ended up having his own kid show.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Imagine that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean, it's a little different with Shannon the Dude, right,
Shannon the Dude's not that much different on the radio
than Shannon Griggs be in real life. But like when
you create this completely different persona and it launches you
into superstardom where you have to act like that character
all the time. I mean, that has got to be
just an insane way to go about life. You know,
pe wee Herman's kind of like a fever dream for me.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Shannon.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I don't know if I could say I was super
into it since I was born in ninety five, but
like my dad showed me the movies, and I have
these dreams of large Marge, like like eyeballs popping out
of her head and like just kind of like these
odd moments. It was such a weird show, but it
did connect with a pretty big audience. So you're saying
I should check that documentary.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, and it's genius because people didn't know is
this a like is pee wee Herman? Like who this
guy really is or not? And you couldn't tell. He
blurred the line so well. It was kind of like
an Andy Kaufman thing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know. He would be into character all.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The time, and even when we go out, he would
go out in public and not be doing pee wee Herman.
He would have to kind of be pee wee Herman
because that's what everybody thought.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
He was who everybody thought that he actually was.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
In real life, and he played that character so well
that people didn't know is that really him?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Does he really talk like that? Does he really act
like that all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
It's kind of like, you know, like Rick Flair had
to be Rick Flair all the time, mm hmm, you know,
the million dollar man. He had that persona, so he
had to live that lifestyle even when he wasn't on screen,
so that the public would see him the same way
they see them on TV.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And that's got to be exhausting. And that's what I'm
getting to like, how can you act like that?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That charade?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now a little bit of a different lane here, there
are some actors that are known as method actor shann
where they just take everything way too seriously, and even
when the cameras go off, they still act like the
person they're portraying.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
There's been some reports in this new upcoming movie about
John Madden that is I think it's Nick Cage and
Christian Bale are playing John Madden and Al Davis and
their method acting this out, and the cast and crew
apparently are just sick and tired of these guys because
you know, they're they're acting like these characters, but then
when the lights and camera goes off, there's still being
(10:41):
assholes right there.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Still being whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. But did you
drop that shit?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I think you should probably see we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Look at that we're talking about it, and then it
happens on the first segment that button works. How does
that have to dump you? What's morning radio?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Shannon's It's got to do a little bit of a
different vibe than most conversations. I can't believe we had
I just had that while we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Anyway, you need to take a moment. Do you need
to like get some fresh air?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm fine. I just you know,
as happened to some people in years, and I just
do it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Let's go back to talk about a segment that doesn't
make you want to say cuss words on the air
at nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It wasn't even really a cuss word.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It was I was just looking up. We were talking about
the Pewee Harman documentary. Do you realize that, you know,
some of these shows have such an impact on culture,
but that you look them up and you don't even
realize or I didn't, at least that it was a
short run and only it was only on the air
for four years, and it felt like it was on
for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Really it was only on for four.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Peewee's playoffs aired from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety,
making it a four year run.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's it, only four years.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Did you say nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eighty six?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Eighty six to ninety.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, So maybe that's why I remember the movies much
more than the actual show. There was like a talking
chair or something like that in the show. Yeah, it
was Cherry.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's like a fever dream. It's all kind of coming
back to me.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think the movies, yeah, it makes it, you know,
it adds to the longevity of it. But the you
know Saturday Morning show was only four or four years running.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Wasn't that long, But then you got the movies.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think that, you know, in your mind thinks makes
it seem longer than what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Well, it's it's it's weird the things that you remember.
But I'll have to check out a little pee wee Herman.
It is otega Oway Day, Shane, and we should mention
that it is decision day for Otegah. He has until
eleven fifty nine tonight to withdraw from the NBA Draft
and officially a return back to Kentucky. At least that's
the hope for many listening to this show. Right now,
(12:40):
there's some new reporting that has come out. Matt Norlander
is reporting that always feedback over the last couple of
days has been overwhelmingly positive. So while Norlander still expects
Otega away to come back to Kentucky, there are some
reports that the feedback is good. And then Darryl Bird
is down in Florida for the sec ME and he
had a report on the Cats pause that Oa has
(13:03):
one final workout today with an NBA team before he
will make his final decision. Shannon, does any of this
new news change your opinion on what you think Otega will.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Do later today? No, I think he's still coming back
at Kentucky. But I think he's getting every last drop
out of this experience that he can, as he should,
right because he's going to go back again next year
after this upcoming season and go through the process again.
So I think that if you have the opportunity to
work out for the NBA teams, you should work out
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for every team that you have that opportunity for, because
who knows, this last team that he's working out for
today very well could be the team that ends up
drafting him next year. So why would you not go
at least through that process. You're already in the process.
He's you know, he's all in. I don't think that
you just if you're going to test the waters, you
just go, well, I'm going to do it with this
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team and this team, but not the other teams.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I think that would be foolish to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So now that you're already in the the process, she
might as well work out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
For every team that you have the opportunity for.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And I think that's smart on his point on his part,
but I don't think that it's going to change his mind,
and I think he will be announcing later on today
that he's coming back to Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
When your dream is to make the NBA, Like you said, Shannon,
I think it's foolish to not explore every avenue. And
that's what otega Oway is doing. And I love to
hear that the feedback is overwhelmingly positive. That means he
will be even a bigger contributor for Kentucky next year
if he does decide to return. But if he doesn't, Shannon,
I mean, what do you think about this roster? I mean,
(14:33):
where are you at with what Mark Pope has without Oteka?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
If that was the decision, I'm kind of on.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The verge of it's near a top ten roster without him.
With him, it could be a top five, top three.
Do you agree with that or do you think a
little differently.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I think he has a big impact, more so than
what we knew this time last year, right especially going
through the season and realizing, Okay, this is the guy
that's putting the team on his back and scoring double
digits and nearly every game throughout the season. If he
doesn't come back, I mean, they still have a great team,
but they need him. Let's not split here. I mean,
let's be rull about it. They need Otega away for
(15:10):
next season. If he doesn't come back, there's still a
top twenty five team. I don't know if I'm going
to say top ten, still a top twenty five, but
I think that this team will be centered around Otega
oway and if he doesn't come back, then you have
to lean on the experience of your other guys that
you had in the transfer portal.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, which is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I mean, just think about like a year and a
half ago, this guy's transferring from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean, do we.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Even really know who this guy is? But he ends
up scoring double digits in all but two games, game
winners against Oklahoma twice. Man, he was the heart and
soul of this team in a lot of ways, And
you're right, I mean, it just takes on a completely
different vibe if he were to come back. I mean,
you're looking at a SEC preseason player of the year, possibility,
first team All SEC. And I'm excited. I'm excited for
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the kid. Whatever he decides to do. I think he's
got a very bright, few mature but these Cats fans
would love him back, and you know, he would be.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Embraced again by this fan base.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Of of course he would so exciting news possibly coming
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Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'll try not to cuss the rest of the show.
Do you have any more cuss words? No, No, it's fine.
I just wanted to test the dump button. I mean,
i'd assume it works.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't know well it better. I mean, you're the producer.
You got one job over there. If you could do that,
I'll slow down.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I got more. You're the one with one job.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, no, listen, I need to call you out a
second saying I don't do anything for twenty three hours
yesterday when we were talking about the Matt Jones show.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You guys were on KSR. That was factual.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Please Shannon, listen, GM Billy is going to make sure
you don't get that speaking role in the next movie.
If that's the case, we'll take a break and be
right back here on the KSR pre show. Okay, this
is pee Wee. I could tell by this random scream there.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know, like that's one of those shows I watched
as a kid.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And I what am I even watching? Like what even
is this?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And I'm watching it now like I don't even understand,
Like what how did this even become a show?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, it does seem like it's a show that's
on drugs or something like it was.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It was so eighties, it was very eighties comedy.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We yeah, we we heard the pee wee Herman scream. There.
Podcast listeners got the scream of Matt.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yesterday with no music played that country song and he
decided to do the scream too. It's it's actually been
a lot of fun listening to the out of content
singing of like Matt and you guys on KSR without
the podcast music. But I know you miss it, and
that's a big part of what you do, Shannon. So
unfortunately people don't get to hear that. That's why you
have to listen live.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, but you get the you know, Matt reacting to
the he hal song Gloom to Spare and agony on me, That's.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What it was.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
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against the Next one thirty to one twenty one, and
I kind of knew that was going to happen, Shannon.
After I saw that Tyrese Haliburton's dad was back in
the building, the band was lifted. He was allowed to
go watch his son play, and Tyrese did something that
no other NBA player has ever done. Thirty three points,
(18:14):
fifteen assists, twelve rebounds and zero turnovers. He is the
first player in NBA history in the conference finals to
have a triple double without zero or with zero turnovers.
He's been incredible, Shannon. And since the NBA players voted
him the most overrated player in the league, that is
his peers making that decision. He has been an exceptional player. No,
(18:34):
there's no doubt, yep, he has been. We just need
to keep Dad over there on the sidelines. Like, Dad,
you don't belong on the floor.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Don't be coming out here talking trash after we beat
the Knicks, you know, just know your role, Dad, So
that's my main focus. But yah, Halliburton has been great,
no doubt about it. And now it's a three to
one series.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Actually both series are three to one. So do you
think that the Thunder close it out tonight?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think Okasee is the team to beat the year
and unfortunate that the Knicks couldn't make it two to two,
but we'll get at least one more game in Madison
Square Garden.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's right, yep.
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Speaker 1 (19:47):
So tonight you can watch Shay Gil Just Alexander take
on Julius Randall. Julius Randall was a player that was
traded from the Knicks to the Timberwolves, and he recently
made some comments that drew some questions. Shannon said about
talk about playing in New York that it's not fun.
You can't really focus on the game. You're focused on
everything else other than the game itself. You're living and
(20:08):
dying with every single shot, every single turnover, every single loss.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Probably that sounds pretty dramatically.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
In New York delay in New York kidding me. I mean,
I've realized there's a lot going on there. But I mean,
you're a professional athlete. You should be able to be
focused enough on the game for a few hours to
be able to go out there and not feel like
you're distracted by everything that's New York, wouldn't you think, right?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I mean, right, if you're a professional athlete, you're not
distracted by the fans, right, you should ultimately be in
a bubble.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Maybe, But they mean these are humans, right, I mean
they I mean I.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Guess like for somebody you know, you think coming and
right out of college, which he's not right out of college,
but for you know, rookies that are imagine going from
you know, a midwestern school to New York City, I
mean that's a culture shock and the lifestyle is completely
different there.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And like let's take Kentucky out of the equation, Like
even western Kentucky. You've got maybe three four reporters there
and two of them are students. Right, It's they's softball questions.
They want to make you look good so they can
write stories and they can continue to get access to
the program.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
New York Man, they're like, you know, why are you so.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Awful at basketball? Like why are you out at the
club last night? Shouldn't you be working on your jump shot?
How does professional basketball miss a free or professional basketball
player missed this many free throws? Like I'm sure, yeah,
I mean ask Mitchell Robinson. He's getting some of that
treatment in New York right now. So, like it's I'm
sure it is tough.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It can be a ruthless media market. But to hear
Julius Randall say it ain't fun and you're living and
dying with every single shot, you gotta think that's really
tough on somebody's mental If you're trying to find success
in a place.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Like that, he's gotta be tough.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I mean's's I mean you think Kentucky's like that to
a degree. Yeah, I mean the spotlight's on you. You
know it's going to be when you're in New York
and playing for the Knicks as well. But yeah, Kentucky,
it's tough, especially you know at the even younger age,
talking about kids coming straight out of high school and
now all of a sudden, you're the focus everywhere you go.
You know, there's fans that recognize you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And what and when is it at Kentucky? We can't
hide you here. That's right. This place isn't for everyone.
This isn't for everyone. That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
All right, We're gonna take a break. Much more on
the way on this Wednesday edition of the show. Before
the show, the Casurpre Show, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It is the KSR Pre Show, Billy and the Dude.
It's Wednesday, May twenty eighth, and we've got a little
pumpkin action in the garden.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I saw Shannon the Dude post a picture yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yep, we got the leaves have sprouted up or something's happening.
I'm not sure what's happening, but we got something green
coming out of the garden.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So that's good. Something green, that's good.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I saw it actually pushed up one of the seeds
that was open, and there was a seed just sitting
on top of the leaf. I go, I don't know
what that means, So I just took this. They can
put it back in the ground. Apparently you put it
back apparently, like the thing that was supposed to sprout
already came out of it. And I guess that was
maybe that that leave came out of that seed. I
didn't realize it. So look, I'm just trying to figure
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this out as I go.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, we're just crossing our fingers helping these pumpkins sproud
at the right time.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Throw a little miracle grow on it, maybe some water,
and we'll just see what happens from there. And I
guess next step is we've got to have some flowers
that come on there. Then once the flowers start blooming out,
then you get the pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Right. That always works.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It sounds like you know what you're doing, So you
just keep as posted control of this guy. I'm excited
to carve a homemade Shannon the Dude pumpkin.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
When October comes around this year.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Today is the last day of classes for many high
schools across Kentucky, including Fayette County.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Uh So, summer's officially here.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If Memorial Day wasn't the unofficial kickoff when the kids
are done for school, summer really is here, and teaching
is an interesting dynamics Shannon, right, I mean, you work hard,
so hard with children for many months and then you
get summer breakof would you like a summer break?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like, would you like that cycle?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Because I'm sure that can be a little vicious waiting
all year for summer to come around.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You're talking about like if I were in school.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Or just like right now, Like let's say you have
to work with children for you know, eight or nine
months out of the year, but you get three months off.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, you like to have three months off. I mean,
I guess some people even get three months off if
they work in radio, if you're certain people. I don't
get that. I get like I get my.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Four weeks off because I've been here for twenty one
years and that's that's plenty. That's what you get.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So yeah, I think, you know, a good break for
teachers is necessary, a good three month break just to
kind of get away from it all. And it's good
for the kids too, right. I Mean at this point though,
a lot of schools, it seems like, are nearly going
year round because they're making up for snow days.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Snow days, Yeah, what are they called NTI days? Is
that what it is? Where they? Well?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Or is anyone you're on the right that has taken
the place of a lot of snow days, right, instead
of being able to go out on the sled and
enjoy your actual day, they'll say, you have an NTI
day and you have to sit on your computer all day,
which is a shame, Shannon, you know, I mean, it's
it's just how the times have changed, and COVID definitely
made that a lot worse. But you know, you kind
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of you work all week for the weekend, right, and
you'll work eight or nine months for the summer vacation.
So salute to our teachers and hopefully this last day
goes easy for you. But I do have a little
bit of a fair or foul regarding teachers. Sure, I
just get ready for this one. There's a senior at
Northeastern University that is asking for a tuition refund after
busting her professor for using chat GPT. So normally it's
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the other way around when students are using chat GPT
to write a paper or anything like this, but it
was actually the professor was using AI generated images that
appeared to be distorted and even people with extra limbs
in the professor's lectures. After a little bit of digging,
the student learned that the professor had been using AI
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tools but not telling the students about it. So they
were using it in their curriculum and all the things
that they were teaching the students, but all the while
the professor demanded the students not to use AI. So
the student is filing a complaint and requesting a refund
of more than eight thousand dollars intuition costs for the course.
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The professor acknowledged the use of AI and admitted that
he should have looked closer at the material, but the
refund was refused by the school. So, Shannon fairrofoul or
do you think that this student should get a refund
for finding out their professor was using AI.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Let's do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Right, If you're the professor, you're telling all these students
you cannot use chet GPT, yet the professor is doing
exactly that. I think the students got a good argument here.
I mean, if it were the other way around and
the professor found out the student was using chat GPT,
probably expelled, expelled, the test.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
The test fell the great, whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So yeah, I think you know, if you're gonna say,
you know, it's cheating for the students to do it.
I don't think a professor should be able to take
a short cut either, so I think it's a valid argument.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean, if the professor was upfront and said, hey,
I'm using AI to help with my power points, to
help with the even the content that you know, I'm
using for you to learn, then I think it would
be fine. But when you ask your students not to
use AI and in turn you are using it to
present material, I just that doesn't seem right.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm just thinking how much easier class would have been
having chet GPT.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh come on, I mean it's not even class at that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I it's you can and if you were smart, you
would use it to write your paper for you and
then just put it in your own words and there's
your paper. Right.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
How hard is that?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's it's gotten even worse now you type in, you know,
write an essay for me as a you know, a
low a student that could not be found out using
AI tool.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Like, so do you just enter differently into the prompt
and it's going to change it? And as much advancement
as we've seen an AI over the last couple of years, Shannon,
I gotta think, I mean, how are they going to
be able to stop this?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't think. I don't know that. I don't think
you can.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I mean, once the tooth pastes out of the tube,
you can't put it back in. And I think that's
kind of the situation with AI, Like the farther and
farther we go along with the advancements of AI.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
How do you stop it?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I don't think you can, Like, there's no way that
I know that a professor could go. I mean, I
guess you could go and try to enter in the
same thing that you think that the student may have,
you know, entered it for a prompt on chat GBT, but.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Sure it's yeah, I don't I don't know. It's really
tough to figure that out. Yeah, I guess. I guess.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
The The counter argument is, you are doing a disservice
to yourself using chat comployees.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Do you think I cared? All I cared about was
do I have an AB or a C next to
my name?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That well, that's that's the problem with the education system
in this country. And this is not the right show
for this, And I get into that that's more.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
For I just I just wanted to get I just
wanted to get to college and play baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That was it. Let me play baseball.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I took three years of Spanish, I could barely speak
a word.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Let's be part of it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Let's be completely real about it. What you and I
are doing right now. You went to Western Kentucky. So
you went to school for broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I learned under the you know, tutelage of Tony Venetti.
You know, he was my professor in radio. He was
I mean, like you know, he was doing all the
rock station stuff, and he was the guy that I
was learning under, uh for a good part of my career.
Then he went into sports radio. Then I went to
sports radio as well. So in a way, my career
has sort of mirrored his. And you know, I didn't
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have to go to school for it. So you know,
I played baseball four years, went to college.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Didn't take anything really that I learned in college.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Here now, I will say it did help me get
this career because I was able to intern at the
radio station through the college, which I would not have
had the opportunity. So basically I paid a good amount
of money to do an internship to get into radio.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well, it's about leaving the nest.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's about you know, growing on your own and finding
these opportunities. So you know, cynically, you could look at hey,
you know, nothing I did in college led to me
to be in my career, But Shannon, I would disagree.
I would say, you would not be who you are
today if.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You didn't do them.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
The best class I took that helped with what we
do now is was it Lindsay Wilson My freshman year?
It was public speaking? And I still hate public speaking,
believe it or not. Like the radio to me isn't
public speaking. But if you said, like, you know, I
want you to come do a speech, I would hate
to do that. I don't like. I don't enjoy that
at all. Like I know that Matt goes around and
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does these speaking engagements. I think he has one coming
up soon. Yeah maybe today.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think it's tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah maybe today. But you know that's not me. Like
I don't enjoy doing that type of thing. I don't
like to be asked to do that type of thing.
You know, I can go out and do a remote
in front of three hundred people and be fine, But
I you know, that's not a speech, that's just.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, the public speaking is different, Like you got note cards,
you're trying to make eye contact with people. Your body
language is very important. You know, we do a radio
show in a remote. You know, sometimes we're sitting, sometimes
we're standing. You know, it's much more of a conversation,
and we're trying to be entertainers. And that's much different
than like, I have a pointed message i'd like to get.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Across, but don't ask me to do that. I'm not
doing that. I'd like to hear.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
No, Shannon, maybe you can give us a speech or
a tutorial on how to grow pumpkins. Maybe a few
months from now, would you be able to break it
down for us, maybe create a PowerPoint.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So maybe so you know, like you know, like when
a president though does a speech, there's teleprompters there teleprompters.
You know, it's different if I'm reading off a teleprompter,
I guess, but I would just feel like, you know,
am I being entertaining enough if I'm just reading off
a teleprompter?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And you know, I don't like.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Listen to people public speaking. I don't like I just
don't enjoy it. Unless somebody I'm I'm really interested in,
which the amount of people that I'm really interested in
enough to sit there and listen to somebody talk for
an hour that exists in this world is probably like
I don't know, two three maybe well.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know, I think we were talking about public speaking,
and I think of our guy Ryan Lemon again. I mean,
he goes out there and does public speaking in front
of the engineering conference here in Lexington about engineering, has
no idea about engineering and really doesn't know what he's
going to talk about, I think until he gets up there.
And so that's a nice career. There is an art
to it, and the bad jokes that he delivered. I
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think that day eight five nine two eight h two
two eight seven. There were some big news in the
Kentucky sports world when offensive line coach Eric Woolford signed
a new one year contract extension with the Kentucky football team,
and he also got one hundred thousand dollars raise, so
he will now make nine hundred thousand dollars this year.
Shannon he was with Kentucky in twenty twenty one. He
left in the middle of a recruiting trip to go
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join Nick Saban in Alabama for two years. He is
now back at Kentucky and this will be year three
overall with the Cats. Year two in this stint. Before
I give my take, Shannon, tell me what you thought
your initial reaction when Eric Wolford got the contract extension.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Well, I know this is Stoop's buddy and he's going
to take care of his buddies. And you know, I
understand that, like you probably would too if you were
the head coach you had the chance to get one
of your your good friends and assistant a coach paid
more money, you would probably do it for them. But
do I think that it's deserved. No, not at a
one hundred thousand dollars raise, Billy, what were they? What
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was the offensive line ranked last year? Like, you know,
if you're gonna get a raise, you have to be
able to show results. You have to be able to
show that you earn that money. But this just seems
to be a one hundred thousand dollars raised just because.
And boy would I love to have one of those.
But no, I don't think it's deserved at all. And
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I know that offensive line was not ranked highly. I
don't know the number. I want to say, like well.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
The last thing image of the offensive line last year
Minci at the concession stand for better or for worse.
I mean, this is you know, Kentucky has tried to
reinvent the big Blue wall and it just has not worked.
And this is a guy that's already spurned Stoops to
a degree, leaving for Alabama the first time he was
I believe his college roommate back in the day, and
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and Stoops has since in the last few years hired
his brother and his college roommates. So you could look
at that from afar and think maybe he's gotten complacent,
you know, maybe he is not doing things the same
way he was early in his tenure. But I want
to reserve judgment. I I hate to kill a guy
on the air, Shanon. That's just that's just not who
I am. Like, I'm I'm not gonna you know, listen,
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that was dumped. I I don't want to come on
here and say, like somebody should be fired. I don't
think that's my role or my job. I didn't say
that either, but but I want to. I want to
be clear about this. We have not seen the development
needed from the offensive line to justify this race. Now,
Eric Wolford is somebody that is what I've heard is
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a very good recruiter, a big part of the talent
that has come in over the last couple of years.
And it looks like he's done a pretty good job
of bringing in a new crop of recruits this year
for the rotating offensive line or even the skill players.
I know he's very involved with that. So if you
look at it from one hundred mile view, Shan, and
if you think that player development is in the past
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and the only thing that matters is recruiting and getting
guys every single year from the transfer portal, then yes,
I see this is absolutely a good move. Eric Wolford
seems to be a personable guy that can relate with
young kids. But if you're looking for player development, he
has not showed over the last five years that he
can go from the one year to the next improving guys,
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playing backups, and putting the offensive line in good situations.
That's just my take showing yep, and I agree with
most of that.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Like I said, I just don't think that that offensive
line has shown that it's good enough for the coach
to be paid an extra one hundred thousand dollars for
one year.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well, neither is the tight ends coach, Vince Merrow. What
production have we gotten from tight ends over the.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Last five You want to talk about recruiters, I mean
I think that a good part of those roster wouldn't
be here if it weren't for Vince Merril.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I'll take up for Vince.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, that's what I mean. That's my point is they
can have these titles of offensive line coach and tight
ends coach, but what they do as recruiters, I think
ultimately is what gets them these raises and why there's
some of the highest paid assistants.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Maybe so, but again I think a lot of this
is how much just the tight end utilized in the offense.
Not much, not much. No, So is that Vince Merrill's fault, No,
he's not the one.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think there has to be some blame for the
development and the uses of tight ends from the tight
end coach, Shannon. I mean, you don't just get absolved
from that because the offense doesn't throw to tight ends enough.
But look, we're people that you know, we do this
from pretty far away from the football program. So take
what we say with a grain of salt. But there
is a lot of negative reaction from the Eric Wolford
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contract extension. I'm here to tell you, if the way
of the future is just recruiting the next guy, then
this could be a good move.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But if you're looking.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
At player development, I just haven't seen enough from Eric.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Another thing I would say about Vince Marrow is, if
anything he has shown that he is loyal to this program,
can Eric Wolford say that?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Okay, that's why I think.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know, that's another reason I think that Vince Merrow,
who could have left this program at a long time ago,
multiple different times, has always stuck with Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It always seems like there's a job out there. Yeah,
Vince is in the running for right.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And where's Vince. He's at Kentucky. Yeah, big dogs still here.
He's a guy I would want to go into the
trenches with so even.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
More pressure for this team to produce, to win, to
make a bowl game this year, because when you're giving
assistance contract extensions in the middle of the offseason, it
just doesn't make a ton of sense. But we need
to take a break eight five nine two eight h
two two eight seven. We will be right back for
one final segment. Here on the Ksippre Show, Welcome back.
It's our final segment here on a Wednesday, Billy and
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the Dude. Not too long of a segment here after
we went a little long on the Eric Wolford Conversation.
Let's take our first phone call to day. Grandma Sarah
is on the line. Good morning, Grandma Sarah.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I'm fine? Thank you. Two quick things for Shannon. One
right off, in case you didn't know what you probably do,
Lindsay WHISTLM. Lindsey Wilson College has now been changed to
Lindsay Wilson University.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I did not know that. No, I wasn't aware of that.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I think it is changing either the first of June
or the end of June. It's coming up in a
few weeks, so you can say you went to a university. Okay.
The other thing is I've never grown pumpkins, but I
know a little bit about them. The vines. I'm going
to be listening all summer to get a report on
the radio comut. But those vines may go all over
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your backyard, if it's in your corner of your yard,
they grow, I mean they are very long. And these people,
these people that grow these big punkins that take to
the fair. Okay, when they only have when they start blooming,
they'll only have one bloom on the plant for the
one for the big punkin. So you might experiment a
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little bit. Take one of your plants and just when
they start blooming, just have one bloom on it for
all the nursehment to go to that one, you know punkin.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Okay, yeah, you're saying, take all the other blooms off
and just have one just to take all the other
ones in their own Okay, Okay, yeah, you might.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Not want to do that on all of them because
I don't know may plant you got, but you might
just experiment on one just to see what happens. That one
punkin should be getting all the nursehment and it should
be your big pupkin.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Just keep it well watered and fertilized all summer and
see where your vines go.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
They may go everywhere, taking those vines and just directing
them towards my neighbor's part of the garden.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I'm telling you they do. That's yeah, the vines you
will you'll see a thank you too.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Thank you, Sarah. Yes, my neighbor's gonna be hating me.
But you know what, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
You have to deal with it. He won't if he
throws a fit about it, he won't get any pumpkins. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I just don't know what you're gonna do when all
the critters start coming around, the raccoons and the deer
and pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I'm gonna be out there with my lovell slugger. Get
your defending the pumpkins, to put some traps out or something.
I don't speaking speaking of calling, and I did enjoy
the guy that called into KSR yesterday who was an
employer calling out Landing for not coming into work. Landing's
listening to the show every day for five years, so
I know you're listening out there.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Landing, come in to work. We need you. Thought that
was pretty good with the Wooly Worm Festival. Is that
what it was? I don't remember that, but it was.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It's a great way to find somebody to call out
your employer, or somebody call out somebody that didn't show
up for the work.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Maybe you just call me next time I do that.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
What kind of job do you have where you just
don't show up because you got a lady. I mean
that's what he was insinuating.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I mean maybe your priorities change and you realize the
lady is what's important is woly Worm was more important
than us.
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If you're coming to the Lexington Golf Scramble on Friday,
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Speaker 2 (41:49):
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Speaker 1 (41:50):
Dude, I'm Billy Rutlis. This has been the KSR pre show.
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Today is Wednesday, May twenty eighth. I am Billy Rutland
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My co host, Shannon the Dude is in Lexington and
he has no weaknesses, folks. He is the perfect person.
He is here ready to go. Good morning, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I can go ahead and point out your weaknesses, and
that is you already screwed up where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm not in Lexington. I'm in Louisville, Billy. I said
I was in Lexington, and might not say you were in.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
LUI said that I am in Lexington. I believe that's
what you said.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Maybe my weakness is I don't listen to you, but
I would say that's a strength. Actually, sometimes it's better
not to listen to your co host, especially when he's
Billy our sports. How you doing, Buddy, I'm good, I'm good.
Guntor Mike's landing sirt On We're going there later this year.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh hell yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm excited for Soul for Greek as much as anybody.
I love Mike's landing. Last year we did the Newlyweds
game there. If you remember that, Shannon, in which I won,
you did you know? Not a weakness of mine knowing
my co host, but it may be of yours.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, don't to You's right, that's why I don't you
don't win Newlywed game.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, uh, maybe you'll listen today and thank you for listening.
If you are out there listening on the radio dial
or on the iHeartRadio app eight five nine two eight
h two two eight seven if you'd like to join us. Uh, Channon,
do you ever do you ever think about your brain
just you know, not working and you saying something stupid
on the air once or twice because I have that fear.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when you're on the air as
much as I am, it's almost impossible for it not
to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, like literally the beginning where I just said you
were in Lexington like that didn't register in my mind.
And that's just such a fear of mine that I'm
gonna black out and say something that I don't remember,
and it's gonna get me canceled.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Sull.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I mean, like, you know, you doing a live show,
would hope to have a good producer who would take
care of you and hit the dump button if that
were to happen, you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Know, but what if the producer doesn't listen to what
you're saying? It's true?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What if the producer is also the host, and you know,
is doing three different things and answering a phone call
and doesn't hear you say that. You know, I would
think that you would, you know, maybe jump in there
and save yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But yeah, I mean, that's always a fear.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Man. That's that's live radio. Everybody thinks they're doing live
radio when they're doing a podcast. That's not radio. All right, No,
it's not even close. If you can go back and
dust it up, you know, and like take all the
blemishes out of it, then that's not live radio.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The beauty of live radio.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Anything could happen in live radio, and I think it
makes you, I think it makes you better something live.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, I don't know about you, but I mean, there
was just such a nervousness and a fear of the
first year or so of doing it. But then you
get comfortable and that red light comes on and it's
just like talking with your friends. But then then some
some times that brain just still stops working, Shannon. So
I don't think you ever fully grow out of it,
and I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You've had a moment. Well.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The art is being comfortable without being too comfortable, because
when you get too.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Comfortable, that's when those things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We know, our guy Ryan Lemon, it's a little too
comfortable every now and then and we'll have to use
the dumb button on him. Speaking of our guy Ryan,
how about him breaking his nose over the weekend but
breathing better afterwards. Somehow it knocked his nose into the
right place where he's breathing a little better, but face
planning into the handle of his trash can as he
was trying.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To move it up under the curb over the way.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm just trying to visualize how that even happens, because
like my trash can comes up to, you know, like
my stomach carrier maybe a little bit higher.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, So I'm just trying to visualize.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Okay, I'm on the grass, I've got my trash can,
and I'm pushing it towards the driveway, which has a
little gap in between, and I'm just trying to figure
out how it would be physically possible for me in
that moment to break my nose on the handles way
down here. I guess Ryan's a little bit shorter, so
maybe it comes up higher on him, right, so maybe
(04:05):
that checks out.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But still, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I feel like that takes some true talent to break
your nose on the side of a garbage can.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm saying maybe it helps the sleep apnea. But our
guy Ryan had a little bit of an eventful weekend,
and not only that, I thought we might be getting
rid of the Android phone. Finally, Shannon, he breaks his
phone over the weekend. But yet he says he's not
getting an iPhone upgrade, He's getting the Android. Yeah, and
you know, we've had these issues for years. But after
(04:33):
was Matt said on the air the other day that
there's actually a security risk of group chats with an
Android phone. With a bunch of iPhones, Shannon, maybe we
do need to finally kick him out of the group.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Cho Well, here's what I was hearing yesterday from Ryan.
It sounds like to me that he spends more money
on the insurance of his phone than the insurance of
his own body. And if you're ensuring an android with
more money than you are your own health, I think
that's a problem right there to begin with. So, you know,
we got to make sure that Ryan has his priority.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Is in check. You've got to make sure that he
is insured more than that stupid android phone.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, he's much more important than protecting what's on the phone.
But I relate with Ryan. I mean, how many times
do you sign something after reading the fine print, Shannon?
I mean the Apple terms and conditions, the you know,
even like you know you should read your contract, Shannon,
but there are times when you just go ahead and
(05:31):
you sign.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It, right, I mean, not a contract, a contract.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'll read a contract maybe a little different than maybe
the the Apple app store.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What you're agreeing to every time?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Down the conditions, the terms and conditions. Everybody's just going
You're just wiping down to the bottom so you can
check the box. Right, nobody's reading all that stuff, And
who knows. I mean, you have to sign it anyway
to you know, get the phone, or to get whatever
app on the phone that you want. So you're signing
away a lot of your privacy. And I think you
realize that anyway, if you're online, if you have any
(06:03):
social media presence at all, or an email address, your
information is already out there. That's why I don't understand
why people freak out when the security breach. Oh my gosh,
they have my information. Look, anybody could people find out
where I live and send me foreign money on the internet. Okay,
it's like there is no privacy. Privacy does not exist.
Once you lou on the Yeah, once you go on
the internet for the first time, your prophecy is gone.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You go on a website and you accept cookies to
join the website, I'm sure that's tracking me somehow.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
She don't even know what that means too, That says cookies,
What do you mean like chocolate? Yeah, I don't even
know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So, yeah, that is something we'll look back on that
maybe we signed away a little too easily. But speaking
of fine print, I watched one of the first episodes
of the new season of Black Mirror, Shannon, are you
a Black Mirror fan?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I watched like one or two episodes, and I just
I feel like that's one of those series that I
should be into, but I just never really got into
it very much.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's so good, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's it's about the dystopian future and how technology can
have these negative side effects and not reading the fine
print went a long way in one of the new episodes.
So I can't recommend it enough. It is a good
show if you're looking for something on Netflix, but read
the fine print, folks, even though I probably won't.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Can I tell you what?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I started watching the record at the recommendation of Ryan yesterday.
Ryan's getting all kinds of talk in this first segment,
I guess, so you know, he recommended the new pee
Wee Herman documentary, and as someone who grew up watching
Peewee's Playhouse as a kid, I was interested in it.
And it's it's actually pretty good. It's a two part series.
(07:39):
I don't know if you really call that a series.
It's just a two part thing documentary, I guess, two
part documentary, and like the first one is an hour
and a half long, so I haven't gotten through that
first one yet. It's alone, but it's interesting seeing the
guy who was like type cast it as pee wee Herman. Right, Nobody,
even a lot of people didn't even know his real
name because he kind of played one character his entire
(08:02):
career after that, and he was.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Talking about an identity crisis.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean it shows like he was on like
the Dating Game. Did you know that pee wee Herman
is on the Dating Game? He actually did. I think
he created the character pee Wee Herman by doing an
improv stand up. He had to do like the each
person in this improv group had to go up and
perform like a comedy routine, but you had to create
a character. And he created this character, pee Wee Herman,
(08:29):
and it took off. It was such a big deal
that then he ended up having his own kid show.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Imagine that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean, it's a little different with Shannon the Dude, right,
Shannon the Dude's not that much different on the radio
than Shannon Griggs be in real life. But like when
you create this completely different persona and it launches you
into superstardom where you have to act like that character
all the time. I mean, that has got to be
just an insane way to go about life. You know,
pe wee Herman's kind of like a fever dream for me.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Shannon.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I don't know if I could say I was super
into it since I was born in ninety five, but
like my dad showed me the movies, and I have
these dreams of large Marge, like like eyeballs popping out
of her head and like just kind of like these
odd moments. It was such a weird show, but it
did connect with a pretty big audience. So you're saying
I should check that documentary.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, and it's genius because people didn't know is
this a like is pee wee Herman? Like who this
guy really is or not? And you couldn't tell. He
blurred the line so well. It was kind of like
an Andy Kaufman thing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know. He would be into character all.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The time, and even when we go out, he would
go out in public and not be doing pee wee Herman.
He would have to kind of be pee wee Herman
because that's what everybody thought.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
He was who everybody thought that he actually was.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
In real life, and he played that character so well
that people didn't know is that really him?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Does he really talk like that? Does he really act
like that all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
It's kind of like, you know, like Rick Flair had
to be Rick Flair all the time, mm hmm, you know,
the million dollar man. He had that persona, so he
had to live that lifestyle even when he wasn't on screen,
so that the public would see him the same way
they see them on TV.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And that's got to be exhausting. And that's what I'm
getting to like, how can you act like that?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That charade?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now a little bit of a different lane here, there
are some actors that are known as method actor shann
where they just take everything way too seriously, and even
when the cameras go off, they still act like the
person they're portraying.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
There's been some reports in this new upcoming movie about
John Madden that is I think it's Nick Cage and
Christian Bale are playing John Madden and Al Davis and
their method acting this out, and the cast and crew
apparently are just sick and tired of these guys because
you know, they're they're acting like these characters, but then
when the lights and camera goes off, there's still being
(10:41):
assholes right there.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Still being whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. But did you
drop that shit?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I think you should probably see we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Look at that we're talking about it, and then it
happens on the first segment that button works. How does
that have to dump you? What's morning radio?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Shannon's It's got to do a little bit of a
different vibe than most conversations. I can't believe we had
I just had that while we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Anyway, you need to take a moment. Do you need
to like get some fresh air?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm fine. I just you know,
as happened to some people in years, and I just
do it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Let's go back to talk about a segment that doesn't
make you want to say cuss words on the air
at nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It wasn't even really a cuss word.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It was I was just looking up. We were talking about
the Pewee Harman documentary. Do you realize that, you know,
some of these shows have such an impact on culture,
but that you look them up and you don't even
realize or I didn't, at least that it was a
short run and only it was only on the air
for four years, and it felt like it was on
for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Really it was only on for four.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Peewee's playoffs aired from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety,
making it a four year run.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's it, only four years.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Did you say nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eighty six?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Eighty six to ninety.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, So maybe that's why I remember the movies much
more than the actual show. There was like a talking
chair or something like that in the show. Yeah, it
was Cherry.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's like a fever dream. It's all kind of coming
back to me.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think the movies, yeah, it makes it, you know,
it adds to the longevity of it. But the you
know Saturday Morning show was only four or four years running.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Wasn't that long, But then you got the movies.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think that, you know, in your mind thinks makes
it seem longer than what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Well, it's it's it's weird the things that you remember.
But I'll have to check out a little pee wee Herman.
It is otega Oway Day, Shane, and we should mention
that it is decision day for Otegah. He has until
eleven fifty nine tonight to withdraw from the NBA Draft
and officially a return back to Kentucky. At least that's
the hope for many listening to this show. Right now,
(12:40):
there's some new reporting that has come out. Matt Norlander
is reporting that always feedback over the last couple of
days has been overwhelmingly positive. So while Norlander still expects
Otega away to come back to Kentucky, there are some
reports that the feedback is good. And then Darryl Bird
is down in Florida for the sec ME and he
had a report on the Cats pause that Oa has
(13:03):
one final workout today with an NBA team before he
will make his final decision. Shannon, does any of this
new news change your opinion on what you think Otega will.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Do later today? No, I think he's still coming back
at Kentucky. But I think he's getting every last drop
out of this experience that he can, as he should,
right because he's going to go back again next year
after this upcoming season and go through the process again.
So I think that if you have the opportunity to
work out for the NBA teams, you should work out
(13:33):
for every team that you have that opportunity for, because
who knows, this last team that he's working out for
today very well could be the team that ends up
drafting him next year. So why would you not go
at least through that process. You're already in the process.
He's you know, he's all in. I don't think that
you just if you're going to test the waters, you
just go, well, I'm going to do it with this
(13:54):
team and this team, but not the other teams.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I think that would be foolish to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So now that you're already in the the process, she
might as well work out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
For every team that you have the opportunity for.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And I think that's smart on his point on his part,
but I don't think that it's going to change his mind,
and I think he will be announcing later on today
that he's coming back to Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
When your dream is to make the NBA, Like you said, Shannon,
I think it's foolish to not explore every avenue. And
that's what otega Oway is doing. And I love to
hear that the feedback is overwhelmingly positive. That means he
will be even a bigger contributor for Kentucky next year
if he does decide to return. But if he doesn't, Shannon,
I mean, what do you think about this roster? I mean,
(14:33):
where are you at with what Mark Pope has without Oteka?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
If that was the decision, I'm kind of on.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The verge of it's near a top ten roster without him.
With him, it could be a top five, top three.
Do you agree with that or do you think a
little differently.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I think he has a big impact, more so than
what we knew this time last year, right especially going
through the season and realizing, Okay, this is the guy
that's putting the team on his back and scoring double
digits and nearly every game throughout the season. If he
doesn't come back, I mean, they still have a great team,
but they need him. Let's not split here. I mean,
let's be rull about it. They need Otega away for
(15:10):
next season. If he doesn't come back, there's still a
top twenty five team. I don't know if I'm going
to say top ten, still a top twenty five, but
I think that this team will be centered around Otega
oway and if he doesn't come back, then you have
to lean on the experience of your other guys that
you had in the transfer portal.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, which is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I mean, just think about like a year and a
half ago, this guy's transferring from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean, do we.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Even really know who this guy is? But he ends
up scoring double digits in all but two games, game
winners against Oklahoma twice. Man, he was the heart and
soul of this team in a lot of ways, And
you're right, I mean, it just takes on a completely
different vibe if he were to come back. I mean,
you're looking at a SEC preseason player of the year, possibility,
first team All SEC. And I'm excited. I'm excited for
(15:57):
the kid. Whatever he decides to do. I think he's
got a very bright, few mature but these Cats fans
would love him back, and you know, he would be.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Embraced again by this fan base.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Of of course he would so exciting news possibly coming
later today with otega Oway Hey five nine two eight
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Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'll try not to cuss the rest of the show.
Do you have any more cuss words? No, No, it's fine.
I just wanted to test the dump button. I mean,
i'd assume it works.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't know well it better. I mean, you're the producer.
You got one job over there. If you could do that,
I'll slow down.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I got more. You're the one with one job.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, no, listen, I need to call you out a
second saying I don't do anything for twenty three hours
yesterday when we were talking about the Matt Jones show.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You guys were on KSR. That was factual.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Please Shannon, listen, GM Billy is going to make sure
you don't get that speaking role in the next movie.
If that's the case, we'll take a break and be
right back here on the KSR pre show. Okay, this
is pee Wee. I could tell by this random scream there.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know, like that's one of those shows I watched
as a kid.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And I what am I even watching? Like what even
is this?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And I'm watching it now like I don't even understand,
Like what how did this even become a show?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, it does seem like it's a show that's
on drugs or something like it was.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It was so eighties, it was very eighties comedy.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We yeah, we we heard the pee wee Herman scream. There.
Podcast listeners got the scream of Matt.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yesterday with no music played that country song and he
decided to do the scream too. It's it's actually been
a lot of fun listening to the out of content
singing of like Matt and you guys on KSR without
the podcast music. But I know you miss it, and
that's a big part of what you do, Shannon. So
unfortunately people don't get to hear that. That's why you
have to listen live.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, but you get the you know, Matt reacting to
the he hal song Gloom to Spare and agony on me, That's.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What it was.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
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two eight seven. The Pacers got it done last night
against the Next one thirty to one twenty one, and
I kind of knew that was going to happen, Shannon.
After I saw that Tyrese Haliburton's dad was back in
the building, the band was lifted. He was allowed to
go watch his son play, and Tyrese did something that
no other NBA player has ever done. Thirty three points,
(18:14):
fifteen assists, twelve rebounds and zero turnovers. He is the
first player in NBA history in the conference finals to
have a triple double without zero or with zero turnovers.
He's been incredible, Shannon. And since the NBA players voted
him the most overrated player in the league, that is
his peers making that decision. He has been an exceptional player. No,
(18:34):
there's no doubt, yep, he has been. We just need
to keep Dad over there on the sidelines. Like, Dad,
you don't belong on the floor.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Don't be coming out here talking trash after we beat
the Knicks, you know, just know your role, Dad, So
that's my main focus. But yah, Halliburton has been great,
no doubt about it. And now it's a three to
one series.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Actually both series are three to one. So do you
think that the Thunder close it out tonight?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think Okasee is the team to beat the year
and unfortunate that the Knicks couldn't make it two to two,
but we'll get at least one more game in Madison
Square Garden.
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That's right, yep.
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Speaker 1 (19:47):
So tonight you can watch Shay Gil Just Alexander take
on Julius Randall. Julius Randall was a player that was
traded from the Knicks to the Timberwolves, and he recently
made some comments that drew some questions. Shannon said about
talk about playing in New York that it's not fun.
You can't really focus on the game. You're focused on
everything else other than the game itself. You're living and
(20:08):
dying with every single shot, every single turnover, every single loss.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Probably that sounds pretty dramatically.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
In New York delay in New York kidding me. I mean,
I've realized there's a lot going on there. But I mean,
you're a professional athlete. You should be able to be
focused enough on the game for a few hours to
be able to go out there and not feel like
you're distracted by everything that's New York, wouldn't you think, right?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I mean, right, if you're a professional athlete, you're not
distracted by the fans, right, you should ultimately be in
a bubble.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Maybe, But they mean these are humans, right, I mean
they I mean I.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Guess like for somebody you know, you think coming and
right out of college, which he's not right out of college,
but for you know, rookies that are imagine going from
you know, a midwestern school to New York City, I
mean that's a culture shock and the lifestyle is completely
different there.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And like let's take Kentucky out of the equation, Like
even western Kentucky. You've got maybe three four reporters there
and two of them are students. Right, It's they's softball questions.
They want to make you look good so they can
write stories and they can continue to get access to
the program.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
New York Man, they're like, you know, why are you so.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Awful at basketball? Like why are you out at the
club last night? Shouldn't you be working on your jump shot?
How does professional basketball miss a free or professional basketball
player missed this many free throws? Like I'm sure, yeah,
I mean ask Mitchell Robinson. He's getting some of that
treatment in New York right now. So, like it's I'm
sure it is tough.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It can be a ruthless media market. But to hear
Julius Randall say it ain't fun and you're living and
dying with every single shot, you gotta think that's really
tough on somebody's mental If you're trying to find success
in a place.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Like that, he's gotta be tough.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I mean's's I mean you think Kentucky's like that to
a degree. Yeah, I mean the spotlight's on you. You
know it's going to be when you're in New York
and playing for the Knicks as well. But yeah, Kentucky,
it's tough, especially you know at the even younger age,
talking about kids coming straight out of high school and
now all of a sudden, you're the focus everywhere you go.
You know, there's fans that recognize you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And what and when is it at Kentucky? We can't
hide you here. That's right. This place isn't for everyone.
This isn't for everyone. That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
All right, We're gonna take a break. Much more on
the way on this Wednesday edition of the show. Before
the show, the Casurpre Show, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It is the KSR Pre Show, Billy and the Dude.
It's Wednesday, May twenty eighth, and we've got a little
pumpkin action in the garden.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I saw Shannon the Dude post a picture yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yep, we got the leaves have sprouted up or something's happening.
I'm not sure what's happening, but we got something green
coming out of the garden.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So that's good. Something green, that's good.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I saw it actually pushed up one of the seeds
that was open, and there was a seed just sitting
on top of the leaf. I go, I don't know
what that means, So I just took this. They can
put it back in the ground. Apparently you put it
back apparently, like the thing that was supposed to sprout
already came out of it. And I guess that was
maybe that that leave came out of that seed. I
didn't realize it. So look, I'm just trying to figure
(23:11):
this out as I go.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, we're just crossing our fingers helping these pumpkins sproud
at the right time.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Throw a little miracle grow on it, maybe some water,
and we'll just see what happens from there. And I
guess next step is we've got to have some flowers
that come on there. Then once the flowers start blooming out,
then you get the pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Right. That always works.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It sounds like you know what you're doing, So you
just keep as posted control of this guy. I'm excited
to carve a homemade Shannon the Dude pumpkin.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
When October comes around this year.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Today is the last day of classes for many high
schools across Kentucky, including Fayette County.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Uh So, summer's officially here.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If Memorial Day wasn't the unofficial kickoff when the kids
are done for school, summer really is here, and teaching
is an interesting dynamics Shannon, right, I mean, you work hard,
so hard with children for many months and then you
get summer breakof would you like a summer break?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like, would you like that cycle?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Because I'm sure that can be a little vicious waiting
all year for summer to come around.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You're talking about like if I were in school.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Or just like right now, Like let's say you have
to work with children for you know, eight or nine
months out of the year, but you get three months off.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, you like to have three months off. I mean,
I guess some people even get three months off if
they work in radio, if you're certain people. I don't
get that. I get like I get my.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Four weeks off because I've been here for twenty one
years and that's that's plenty. That's what you get.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So yeah, I think, you know, a good break for
teachers is necessary, a good three month break just to
kind of get away from it all. And it's good
for the kids too, right. I Mean at this point though,
a lot of schools, it seems like, are nearly going
year round because they're making up for snow days.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Snow days, Yeah, what are they called NTI days? Is
that what it is? Where they? Well?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Or is anyone you're on the right that has taken
the place of a lot of snow days, right, instead
of being able to go out on the sled and
enjoy your actual day, they'll say, you have an NTI
day and you have to sit on your computer all day,
which is a shame, Shannon, you know, I mean, it's
it's just how the times have changed, and COVID definitely
made that a lot worse. But you know, you kind
(25:20):
of you work all week for the weekend, right, and
you'll work eight or nine months for the summer vacation.
So salute to our teachers and hopefully this last day
goes easy for you. But I do have a little
bit of a fair or foul regarding teachers. Sure, I
just get ready for this one. There's a senior at
Northeastern University that is asking for a tuition refund after
busting her professor for using chat GPT. So normally it's
(25:44):
the other way around when students are using chat GPT
to write a paper or anything like this, but it
was actually the professor was using AI generated images that
appeared to be distorted and even people with extra limbs
in the professor's lectures. After a little bit of digging,
the student learned that the professor had been using AI
(26:04):
tools but not telling the students about it. So they
were using it in their curriculum and all the things
that they were teaching the students, but all the while
the professor demanded the students not to use AI. So
the student is filing a complaint and requesting a refund
of more than eight thousand dollars intuition costs for the course.
(26:26):
The professor acknowledged the use of AI and admitted that
he should have looked closer at the material, but the
refund was refused by the school. So, Shannon fairrofoul or
do you think that this student should get a refund
for finding out their professor was using AI.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Let's do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Right, If you're the professor, you're telling all these students
you cannot use chet GPT, yet the professor is doing
exactly that. I think the students got a good argument here.
I mean, if it were the other way around and
the professor found out the student was using chat GPT,
probably expelled, expelled, the test.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
The test fell the great, whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So yeah, I think you know, if you're gonna say,
you know, it's cheating for the students to do it.
I don't think a professor should be able to take
a short cut either, so I think it's a valid argument.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean, if the professor was upfront and said, hey,
I'm using AI to help with my power points, to
help with the even the content that you know, I'm
using for you to learn, then I think it would
be fine. But when you ask your students not to
use AI and in turn you are using it to
present material, I just that doesn't seem right.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm just thinking how much easier class would have been
having chet GPT.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh come on, I mean it's not even class at that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I it's you can and if you were smart, you
would use it to write your paper for you and
then just put it in your own words and there's
your paper. Right.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
How hard is that?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's it's gotten even worse now you type in, you know,
write an essay for me as a you know, a
low a student that could not be found out using
AI tool.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Like, so do you just enter differently into the prompt
and it's going to change it? And as much advancement
as we've seen an AI over the last couple of years, Shannon,
I gotta think, I mean, how are they going to
be able to stop this?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't think. I don't know that. I don't think
you can.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I mean, once the tooth pastes out of the tube,
you can't put it back in. And I think that's
kind of the situation with AI, Like the farther and
farther we go along with the advancements of AI.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
How do you stop it?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I don't think you can, Like, there's no way that
I know that a professor could go. I mean, I
guess you could go and try to enter in the
same thing that you think that the student may have,
you know, entered it for a prompt on chat GBT, but.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Sure it's yeah, I don't I don't know. It's really
tough to figure that out. Yeah, I guess. I guess.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
The The counter argument is, you are doing a disservice
to yourself using chat comployees.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Do you think I cared? All I cared about was
do I have an AB or a C next to
my name?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That well, that's that's the problem with the education system
in this country. And this is not the right show
for this, And I get into that that's more.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
For I just I just wanted to get I just
wanted to get to college and play baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That was it. Let me play baseball.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I took three years of Spanish, I could barely speak
a word.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Let's be part of it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Let's be completely real about it. What you and I
are doing right now. You went to Western Kentucky. So
you went to school for broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I learned under the you know, tutelage of Tony Venetti.
You know, he was my professor in radio. He was
I mean, like you know, he was doing all the
rock station stuff, and he was the guy that I
was learning under, uh for a good part of my career.
Then he went into sports radio. Then I went to
sports radio as well. So in a way, my career
has sort of mirrored his. And you know, I didn't
(29:47):
have to go to school for it. So you know,
I played baseball four years, went to college.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Didn't take anything really that I learned in college.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Here now, I will say it did help me get
this career because I was able to intern at the
radio station through the college, which I would not have
had the opportunity. So basically I paid a good amount
of money to do an internship to get into radio.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well, it's about leaving the nest.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's about you know, growing on your own and finding
these opportunities. So you know, cynically, you could look at hey,
you know, nothing I did in college led to me
to be in my career, But Shannon, I would disagree.
I would say, you would not be who you are
today if.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You didn't do them.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
The best class I took that helped with what we
do now is was it Lindsay Wilson My freshman year?
It was public speaking? And I still hate public speaking,
believe it or not. Like the radio to me isn't
public speaking. But if you said, like, you know, I
want you to come do a speech, I would hate
to do that. I don't like. I don't enjoy that
at all. Like I know that Matt goes around and
(30:48):
does these speaking engagements. I think he has one coming
up soon. Yeah maybe today.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think it's tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah maybe today. But you know that's not me. Like
I don't enjoy doing that type of thing. I don't
like to be asked to do that type of thing.
You know, I can go out and do a remote
in front of three hundred people and be fine, But
I you know, that's not a speech, that's just.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, the public speaking is different, Like you got note cards,
you're trying to make eye contact with people. Your body
language is very important. You know, we do a radio
show in a remote. You know, sometimes we're sitting, sometimes
we're standing. You know, it's much more of a conversation,
and we're trying to be entertainers. And that's much different
than like, I have a pointed message i'd like to get.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Across, but don't ask me to do that. I'm not
doing that. I'd like to hear.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
No, Shannon, maybe you can give us a speech or
a tutorial on how to grow pumpkins. Maybe a few
months from now, would you be able to break it
down for us, maybe create a PowerPoint.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So maybe so you know, like you know, like when
a president though does a speech, there's teleprompters there teleprompters.
You know, it's different if I'm reading off a teleprompter,
I guess, but I would just feel like, you know,
am I being entertaining enough if I'm just reading off
a teleprompter?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And you know, I don't like.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Listen to people public speaking. I don't like I just
don't enjoy it. Unless somebody I'm I'm really interested in,
which the amount of people that I'm really interested in
enough to sit there and listen to somebody talk for
an hour that exists in this world is probably like
I don't know, two three maybe well.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know, I think we were talking about public speaking,
and I think of our guy Ryan Lemon again. I mean,
he goes out there and does public speaking in front
of the engineering conference here in Lexington about engineering, has
no idea about engineering and really doesn't know what he's
going to talk about, I think until he gets up there.
And so that's a nice career. There is an art
to it, and the bad jokes that he delivered. I
(32:34):
think that day eight five nine two eight h two
two eight seven. There were some big news in the
Kentucky sports world when offensive line coach Eric Woolford signed
a new one year contract extension with the Kentucky football team,
and he also got one hundred thousand dollars raise, so
he will now make nine hundred thousand dollars this year.
Shannon he was with Kentucky in twenty twenty one. He
left in the middle of a recruiting trip to go
(32:56):
join Nick Saban in Alabama for two years. He is
now back at Kentucky and this will be year three
overall with the Cats. Year two in this stint. Before
I give my take, Shannon, tell me what you thought
your initial reaction when Eric Wolford got the contract extension.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Well, I know this is Stoop's buddy and he's going
to take care of his buddies. And you know, I
understand that, like you probably would too if you were
the head coach you had the chance to get one
of your your good friends and assistant a coach paid
more money, you would probably do it for them. But
do I think that it's deserved. No, not at a
one hundred thousand dollars raise, Billy, what were they? What
(33:32):
was the offensive line ranked last year? Like, you know,
if you're gonna get a raise, you have to be
able to show results. You have to be able to
show that you earn that money. But this just seems
to be a one hundred thousand dollars raised just because.
And boy would I love to have one of those.
But no, I don't think it's deserved at all. And
(33:53):
I know that offensive line was not ranked highly. I
don't know the number. I want to say, like well.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
The last thing image of the offensive line last year
Minci at the concession stand for better or for worse.
I mean, this is you know, Kentucky has tried to
reinvent the big Blue wall and it just has not worked.
And this is a guy that's already spurned Stoops to
a degree, leaving for Alabama the first time he was
I believe his college roommate back in the day, and
(34:18):
and Stoops has since in the last few years hired
his brother and his college roommates. So you could look
at that from afar and think maybe he's gotten complacent,
you know, maybe he is not doing things the same
way he was early in his tenure. But I want
to reserve judgment. I I hate to kill a guy
on the air, Shanon. That's just that's just not who
I am. Like, I'm I'm not gonna you know, listen,
(34:40):
that was dumped. I I don't want to come on
here and say, like somebody should be fired. I don't
think that's my role or my job. I didn't say
that either, but but I want to. I want to
be clear about this. We have not seen the development
needed from the offensive line to justify this race. Now,
Eric Wolford is somebody that is what I've heard is
(35:02):
a very good recruiter, a big part of the talent
that has come in over the last couple of years.
And it looks like he's done a pretty good job
of bringing in a new crop of recruits this year
for the rotating offensive line or even the skill players.
I know he's very involved with that. So if you
look at it from one hundred mile view, Shan, and
if you think that player development is in the past
(35:23):
and the only thing that matters is recruiting and getting
guys every single year from the transfer portal, then yes,
I see this is absolutely a good move. Eric Wolford
seems to be a personable guy that can relate with
young kids. But if you're looking for player development, he
has not showed over the last five years that he
can go from the one year to the next improving guys,
(35:44):
playing backups, and putting the offensive line in good situations.
That's just my take showing yep, and I agree with
most of that.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Like I said, I just don't think that that offensive
line has shown that it's good enough for the coach
to be paid an extra one hundred thousand dollars for
one year.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well, neither is the tight ends coach, Vince Merrow. What
production have we gotten from tight ends over the.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Last five You want to talk about recruiters, I mean
I think that a good part of those roster wouldn't
be here if it weren't for Vince Merril.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I'll take up for Vince.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, that's what I mean. That's my point is they
can have these titles of offensive line coach and tight
ends coach, but what they do as recruiters, I think
ultimately is what gets them these raises and why there's
some of the highest paid assistants.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Maybe so, but again I think a lot of this
is how much just the tight end utilized in the offense.
Not much, not much. No, So is that Vince Merrill's fault, No,
he's not the one.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think there has to be some blame for the
development and the uses of tight ends from the tight
end coach, Shannon. I mean, you don't just get absolved
from that because the offense doesn't throw to tight ends enough.
But look, we're people that you know, we do this
from pretty far away from the football program. So take
what we say with a grain of salt. But there
is a lot of negative reaction from the Eric Wolford
(37:03):
contract extension. I'm here to tell you, if the way
of the future is just recruiting the next guy, then
this could be a good move.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But if you're looking.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
At player development, I just haven't seen enough from Eric.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Another thing I would say about Vince Marrow is, if
anything he has shown that he is loyal to this program,
can Eric Wolford say that?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Okay, that's why I think.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know, that's another reason I think that Vince Merrow,
who could have left this program at a long time ago,
multiple different times, has always stuck with Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It always seems like there's a job out there. Yeah,
Vince is in the running for right.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And where's Vince. He's at Kentucky. Yeah, big dogs still here.
He's a guy I would want to go into the
trenches with so even.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
More pressure for this team to produce, to win, to
make a bowl game this year, because when you're giving
assistance contract extensions in the middle of the offseason, it
just doesn't make a ton of sense. But we need
to take a break eight five nine two eight h
two two eight seven. We will be right back for
one final segment. Here on the Ksippre Show, Welcome back.
It's our final segment here on a Wednesday, Billy and
(38:06):
the Dude. Not too long of a segment here after
we went a little long on the Eric Wolford Conversation.
Let's take our first phone call to day. Grandma Sarah
is on the line. Good morning, Grandma Sarah.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I'm fine? Thank you. Two quick things for Shannon. One
right off, in case you didn't know what you probably do,
Lindsay WHISTLM. Lindsey Wilson College has now been changed to
Lindsay Wilson University.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I did not know that. No, I wasn't aware of that.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I think it is changing either the first of June
or the end of June. It's coming up in a
few weeks, so you can say you went to a university. Okay.
The other thing is I've never grown pumpkins, but I
know a little bit about them. The vines. I'm going
to be listening all summer to get a report on
the radio comut. But those vines may go all over
(38:56):
your backyard, if it's in your corner of your yard,
they grow, I mean they are very long. And these people,
these people that grow these big punkins that take to
the fair. Okay, when they only have when they start blooming,
they'll only have one bloom on the plant for the
one for the big punkin. So you might experiment a
(39:17):
little bit. Take one of your plants and just when
they start blooming, just have one bloom on it for
all the nursehment to go to that one, you know punkin.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Okay, yeah, you're saying, take all the other blooms off
and just have one just to take all the other
ones in their own Okay, Okay, yeah, you might.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Not want to do that on all of them because
I don't know may plant you got, but you might
just experiment on one just to see what happens. That one
punkin should be getting all the nursehment and it should
be your big pupkin.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Just keep it well watered and fertilized all summer and
see where your vines go.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
They may go everywhere, taking those vines and just directing
them towards my neighbor's part of the garden.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I'm telling you they do. That's yeah, the vines you
will you'll see a thank you too.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Thank you, Sarah. Yes, my neighbor's gonna be hating me.
But you know what, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
You have to deal with it. He won't if he
throws a fit about it, he won't get any pumpkins. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I just don't know what you're gonna do when all
the critters start coming around, the raccoons and the deer
and pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I'm gonna be out there with my lovell slugger. Get
your defending the pumpkins, to put some traps out or something.
I don't speaking speaking of calling, and I did enjoy
the guy that called into KSR yesterday who was an
employer calling out Landing for not coming into work. Landing's
listening to the show every day for five years, so
I know you're listening out there.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Landing, come in to work. We need you. Thought that
was pretty good with the Wooly Worm Festival. Is that
what it was? I don't remember that, but it was.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It's a great way to find somebody to call out
your employer, or somebody call out somebody that didn't show
up for the work.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Maybe you just call me next time I do that.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
What kind of job do you have where you just
don't show up because you got a lady. I mean
that's what he was insinuating.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I mean maybe your priorities change and you realize the
lady is what's important is woly Worm was more important
than us.
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If you're coming to the Lexington Golf Scramble on Friday,
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forecast of rain, but we're still gonna have a good time.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
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