January 19, 2021 • 41 mins
In this episode, Sammy Jaye sits down with TikTok star Ellie Zeiler. In this wide-ranging conversation, they talk about how to deal with online hate, finding true friends, what it’s like to be teenagers with social media in 2021, the importance of being true to yourself and her non-profit “Together as One” and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey guys, and welcome to this week's episode of The
Real Podcast. As always, my name is Sammy J. And
you guys, this week's episode is with Ellie's Eiler. Now,
you may know her from TikTok, Instagram, social media, but
when I tell you, I felt like I've known this
girl for years, I am not exaggerating. We had so
much in common I was shocked by it. We talk
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about the fakeness of social media, how to find true friends,
how to deal with hate. We talk about fashion, her
love of New York, and so much more. We also
talk about her nonprofit Together as One, which I'm so
excited for you to hear about. I hope you guys
enjoy this episode. Don't forget to subscribe to the Lesbie
Real Podcast if you have an already comment. I always
love to read your reviews, and don't forget to follow
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Ellis Eisler on social media and follow me at it
Sammy JA. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode and
I look forward to your thoughts. So I am so
excited that you're on my podcast, first of all, because
I feel like we have a lot of things in common.
Me too. I'm so excited to be here. We have
a weird amount of things in common. We're both teenagers,
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we're both working, we're both dealing with the social media thing,
which it's social media is crazy. We started like the
same way too, and we have like like the same
like tendencies, you know what I mean. I feel like
I'm like our call before, where it's like things like
the old soul thing like all different, you know what
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I'm saying. It's just like things like that are the same.
I don't know about you, but I've been trying to
limit my phone time just because I realized during the
height of the pandemic when I was inside, my phone
time was probably like twelve or thirteen hours a day,
and I was like, whoa, yeah, that's a lot. I
don't even turn mine on anymore. I don't. I don't
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want to see it because honestly, like my favorite time
of the day is when I like turn it off. Um,
there's really and like nothing pressing, Like I don't like
I don't really like snapchat people. I don't. I just
like text and do take talk and take Instagram pictures
and then I post it and turn it off. See
that sounds lovely. I think Snapchat is terrible. I think
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it's interesting, but terrible, but just because like the snap
maps a big thing where you live, Yeah, it is.
I don't know if you've experienced this, but like in
the city, it can be really hard because you'll see
people hanging out together like on snap maps. When they
say they're not, it's like this, it was this whole thing.
Oh my gosh, that's funny. Like no one. I used
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to live in North Carolina and like if you go
on my snap map, like everyone's is turned on, like
over there on the East Coast, and like no one's
is where I live. Like everyone is like doing their
own thing and very private about it. But it's like fun.
It's like gossip Girl, like the little like maths that
they use. I okay, here's a question. When you come
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to New York, are you into the gossip Girl vibe?
Oh yeah, well actually I started it over Quarantine. I
started gossip Girl for the first time ever. Quarantine. It's
like completely changed my life, like literally had to get
like pack of packs of head bands, like had to
like change the whole style for that. But I haven't
been to New York since, and so I remember going
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and seeing like Gossip Girl tours or like people taking
pictures on the met steps and being like, oh, I
wonder what that's where? And now I know. Now you
get the references exactly exactly. Okay, Wait, so you start
you from North Carolina, so where I know you've moved
a bunch where or all the places you've lived? So
I lived. I lived in California until I was in
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seventh grade, and then I lived in North Carolina for
just one year and then I came right back, um
to California. But like in here, I've moved like different
schools and different houses and things like that. What about you?
Have you lived in New York your whole life. I'm
a city girl. I've lived here my entire life. That's
so fun. Oh my gosh. I mean it's it's so
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interesting to me because everyone from l A one to
New York and like, I want to go to California.
It's true. I was talking to this girl um in
a story yesterday and she went to college in New
York and I was like, how is that? Like why
are you back? And she was like I wish I
wasn't back. I love it there, And I'm like, really,
everyone I talked to that goes like comes right back
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to California. But I don't know. I really like it,
but I when when did you say was the last
time you came here? I think it was last February.
Oh wow, it's been a long time. I mean, you're
not missing much. Like it's not like l A, like
you go on to Melrose Girt shopping like no one's
out anymore, which is interesting. But like then again, like
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that's so crazy, Like that's all I want to do
is go to New York. I had tickets for this
past weekend and I had them planned and then we
had to cancel them. So it was a sad moment.
But have you seen any Broadway shows? Because that's the
one thing that if you're here that I recommend. Really,
I mean, when I was younger, show those I like
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saw completely forgot, but I will do that. Maybe we
should go to a show when I come. Yes, we
have to go together. Okay, I recommend mean girls on Broadway. Okay,
let's do it. Incredible, Uh, Hamilton's of course, and dear
Van Hanson, those are like my go to three. We're
going all three. We're going to go to all of them.
I am down for that, and I think one of
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the I think one of the other reasons why we
have so much in comedies. We were the same age.
We're both in high school, and it's really I don't
know about you, but I'm finding it really difficult, as
you know, school has gotten really weird because of COVID
to just like have a healthy work life balance with
school and that it's also finding a balance with friends
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who are there for the right reasons. I know you
started social media and like March, how in the time
that you've been on social media, have you noticed any
people coming back into your life out of the blue
when you go viral? Oh? Yes, I think from like
all different years of my life, like all years in
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all grades, like people have come back, Like the people
that have hurt my feelings have been like will you
unblock me? Or will you like, I'm so sorry? Can
we be friends? Like I'd love to hang out And
I'm never like I'm not necessarily a mean person, and
so I don't like to like be mean back, of course,
but it's like I have no response for them. I'm like,
oh my gosh, that's so crazy, or even like hanging
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out with new people. They'll be like, oh my god,
I had a situation with a boy. It was like
the first like I had. I was talking like zero boys,
and then I talked to this one for like a
good two weeks in quarantine, and he would say things
like you'd be like, um, like you can meet my
family if you post me on your TikTok and like
no one knows about this, so you know whatever. But
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I was like, oh my gosh, like who says that? Who?
Who does that? And so then I just find myself
in my house all day and my mom's like on
Friday nights, She's like, I think you should go hang
out with your friends, and I'm like, like, what who
am I going out with? I will say I've had
some I try not to let people know about, like
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if it's in that like when I'm talking to someone,
because then the first question is can I be on
your podcast? Why can't I be on your pod? I'm
like what, yeah, you know right? And I'm like who,
Like I would never think to like say that to someone, right,
Like who thinks to say that? What? It's ballsy though
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it is, oh the whole like me, your family, if
you post me on TikTok. That was that was like, okay, wow,
like that's ridiculous. I also feel like, I don't know
about you, but it's so hard to find a nice
guy nowadays because of COVID, because of social media and
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everything's like over Snapchat and it's like just text me,
like that's so much call me, I just me FaceTime.
Yeah what I want? I want Chuck Bass or something
like that all time. I don't get the hype with him,
can somebody, No, I don't get our first difference. Okay, No,
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he's okay, I'm here's my reasoning. I the first episode,
he like tries to assault the little sister. Am I wrong? Okay,
he's grown, he grew up. He grew so much like okay,
he does. The first and second season, I was like,
you know, who is this like trying to get with everyone?
And then by the end I was like, oh my gosh,
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Like I know it's a controversial opinion, but I found
him attractive when I found out he's British in real life,
because for some reason, someone gets like ten points when
they're British. So true, Okay, okay, thank you for saying that. Yeah,
I know. I followed him on Instagram. And the thing is,
it's like he seems obviously we don't know him. Maybe
we should find out, we should maybe we should ask
him to come on. Yes, we need a group FaceTime call.
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His name is Edwin. Okay, he looks like an Edwin,
he does, and he has the accent. And he also
in all of his Instagram posts he's like in Greece
in Paris, like just like living the life of bass.
And I was like, wow, how amazing, Like maybe it
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really does happen. Maybe I'm just like we're living in
such a weird time that I feel like for me,
I'm always that are fron all the way ever since
like two thousand six. Yeah, I've never been. I've never been.
Uh I know a banana, I've never or like musical
like never like whoa, I know our second difference. No,
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I count this in the same boat. This is like
the boys. Okay. I think that's fair because that means like,
if there's a boy that's like my type, like you're
not gonna like him too, So it's just not going
to create a conflict with us. It's a good thing, exactly,
it's good. Did be not too similar, but I feel
like something. I don't know if you've experienced this at
win l A, but it's really hard to find people
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that are there for the right reasons where it's not
for followers or to get on your TikTok. Have you
come up with a circle of privacy when you realize
someone's not there for the right reasons? How how have
you dealt with that? Because I'm still learning because it's weird.
I yeah, I'm still learning with that too. I wish
I had I wish you had an exact answer you
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could tell me with that, because when this boy did
that to me, I just remember texting him and being
like sorry, like with school and everything, like I just
don't have time, like I need to stop talking with you,
like it's distracting me and all this stuff, and that
was it. And I would you say l O L Yeah, no,
he has like no idea that, like I guess I
mean now he does, like sorry, actually blocked him. I
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don't want him say any of my stuff anymore. That's fair. Well,
blocking is such a great answer to a bunch of things,
like everyone is like blocking is so many but it's
so like you're just like on like they don't follow,
you know, you don't follow them. Something you can do
that I didn't realize is that you can have the
person unfollow you. But like I'm a public account, so
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like if he were to go, like he can still
see everything, but that means he would be looking you up.
Like I'm saying, if they don't really look you up,
they would have no idea. They would just stop seeing
your feet. Okay, you're right, Okay, maybe I need to
retract a little bit and do the like remove the
follower type thing. I don't know. It's so interesting to
me because I've had the way people have treated me.
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When I'm starting on my podcast. It wasn't to like
get a podcast. It was like a way to distract
from my anxiety and what was going on with my
friends at the time. And it's so interesting because I
haven't heard a thing from them. But then I think
when Dixie came on, I got a bunch of d
M from people I haven't heard from in a year
and a half to two years. So crazy, it's so weird,
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you know, it's just weird. It's like it's kind of
like I compare it to when someone is like mean
in school, Like I would like I don't I don't
think to be mean to someone, and so it's just
like that way where it's like I wouldn't think to
ask someone to post me or things like that. Well,
first of all, that's so aggressive, right, it's so aggressive,
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but like something else that I've been trying to find
interesting balance with this, making sure the positive comments are
what my priority priority are. But then you know, the
hate can get pretty, you know, shitty sometimes. Something that
I don't understand is they hate you get is so
unjustified because you're just yourself. And I think you've had
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to prove you had to work harder than a lot
of people because you can't just do like the regular dances.
You have to you know, be yourself to prove that
you're not just like every other TikToker. What has that
experience been like on your mental health? Just keeping a
healthy balance with it, but also not letting that hate
get to you. I mean, it's it's been hard. I
I think, like in the beginn inning it was a
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lot of talking and a lot of crying and therapy
and just getting through it. I've always had very thick
skin because of things that happened to me in person,
and like things that went on in school and bullying
and all that type of stuff, and so I guess
I'm lucky. I was talking about this yesterday actually actually
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with my mom, where it's like if I was like
mentally unstable at the beginning of quarantine from school and everything,
and I started this like I don't know how I
could have gotten through it. But so like when someone's
mean to me online, it doesn't like resonnate as much
as if like I've been in like Target or like
walking down the street or like walking my dogs and
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people like call me names. They're like, oh my god,
it's Charlie and like all this stuff, and like I
don't know how to react to it when it's in person.
Wine I can, definitely I can. I can sometimes handle it,
but it's also like I've had it's been harder and
like a lot more work than a lot of people
I guess would see. Where it's like I post now,
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I post like vlogs, and I post like dancing videos
as well, and I post fashion videos and I post
cooking videos just so people can see like how I
actually am on camera. I wish it was like a
FaceTime call with every single follower of mine that like
I could talk to them because that's how I've always
been in person. I'm like way more of a talk
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in person, just like you said, like I'm not a snapchatter,
Like we like to call and talk with people, and
I feel like my personality is so much more than
I mean, anyone's looks. But it's it was just interesting
how it got off that way, and like in person too,
like that. Yeah, I get people do things online because
they're behind a screen, but like the fact that they
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did that in person is that people are balls. The
I I could never like, I could never I know,
I want to go in their minds. It's rough, like
what makes them think that, Like the psychology behind that
or is there like rainbow and like sunshine and we
go and there's something cleaning hate coming out somehow on
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my YouTube. The fact that paparazzi are coming to you
as a teenage girl, like grown men, grown men asking
you questions about petty TikTok drama. Yeah, that's odd. Yeah,
I feel like that's like the difference between I guess
like New York and like l A, where that's like
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very normal. Here, it's just a difference between different I
guess paparazzi experiences would be it's like an astronomical difference,
like Hollywood Fix and like Fletcher, I don't know if
you've heard of him, um, but he's like he's like
gotten very respectful and asks me questions other like I
was on the sidewalk with my brother and he was
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actually he was like doing like suffilon or something. There
was like I don't know, it was the whole thing,
and he like comes up to me and he was like, oh,
is this a coult? Like are you joining a coal?
And then I was like I don't know how to
ad like I didn't know how to answer. That's like
so like are you always copying people? I'm like, who,
like nice to meet you? Like him out like great,
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happy Sunday, Like what are you doing? Also, you're a
grown ass man, you're a six girl? What are you doing?
Like I'm sixteen? Like okay, calm down, please, thank you
very much. Like I don't know how we'd handle myself
in that type of situation. That's overwhelming. Just like I said,
like the in person things are really hard like that,
like like it like stumps you like full on you
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can be like you're on camera and then it goes
on YouTube, I know, and then like let's say you're quiet,
Like I know, I've watched Hollywood fixed videos where like
people are quiet and they just like walk by and
don't answer, and then all the comments are like, oh
my god, she's so rude or it's so hard. It's
so it's like I can never win. So hard I know,
you can never win. You can never win. I remember
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that one Sunday we were walking like and like it's
like the guy like completely ruined my day. Like it
just like really hurt my feelings to like here because
I feel like I've come so far from the beginning
and like my reputation and everything like that, and like
here it be brought up again and here I am.
He was like walking backwards and like I was like,
oh my god, you're about to trip and like being
like so nice, and then he walks away and I
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was like wow, like is that really what people think
of me? Still? And then I was like, why is
he like thirty years old follows me? Like, but I
think that's more telling on their part that it's Yeah, honestly,
kudos to you for just handling yourself against all of that. Okay,
enough about the crazy paparazzi. We have to take a
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quick break. But when we come back, I want to
talk to you about how you balance social media with school,
our mutual love a fashion and design. You might throw
in a little Harry Styles talk and much more. We'll
be right back and we're back. I found it's hard
to find a balance between everything going on in the world,
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be work and also school. I mean, we're students. How
have you been doing with that? Um? I have a
very i'd say, like strict schedule where it's like wake up,
do school, finish like a good amount, like a lot
of my classes, and then do work and then at
night if I have anything more to do that and
like keep up with it. But last year, like the
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ending of last year was rough, Like I got so behind,
and like obviously it's just hard because who wouldn't like
when someone when my mom, because my mom usually reminds
me and like it's literally right here, like she like
makes lists of everything that I have to do during
the day. When I like see that on the counter,
and it's like make two tiktoks, make an Instagram picture,
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Like of course I want to do that instead of
writing an English essay of course, but like that's really
I mean, the only reason that I can get to
go to New York is because I want to go
to n y U and I want to go to
college all these different things. But it's like it's a struggle,
and I feel like not a lot of tick talkers
or people in social media. I have to do it
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because it seems like everyone is just doing this one thing,
whereas there's quite there's like a little group that like
I can tell they're like going to college or doing
like high school and this What about you? Though? What what?
What's your schedule? You know what I mean? For that?
So with COVID, I would have if code wasn't a thing,
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I'd be going to classes five days a week. UM.
So now classes are only three days a week for me. Um,
I'm taking five or six courses and I have my
school day. I have my classes. It's with other people
just virtually um, and then I do the work. I
try and get dead I do in between classes. I
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try and get work done in some classes if it's
like you know, drama or something, Oh, maybe do a
little a multitask a little bit ya off a yeah,
like maybe doing some extra work. But I think the
hardest thing for me is, you know, I'll be doing
my statistics homework and then I'll get a phone call
being like, okay, we need this approval for x y z.
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We need you to create x y z, and it's
like I do that, but then I have to go
back in statistics mode. So it's like this weird thing
that's like so hard to go back and forth between
this creative side of things that I want to do
and things that you know, it's I'm glad I'm doing it,
but it's just like hard to go back and forth.
So true, it's so hard with like the different minds
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and like even like I've seen with like binging TikTok
this whole quarantine. Like my attention span is so short.
It's like rough, Like how like I can be watching
TV and be like looking at my phone. Like it's like,
so it's so bad, but you're so right. Well, like
I'll be in the middle of a quiz and like
my mom will be like, oh and this is due
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when you're done, and then I'm like okay, I'm done,
Like let's do it now. It's like never gets finished.
But it's hard. If anyone anyone listening to this, if
you have any tips, recommendations for us, we need this
advice comment please, we are always looking for some advice. Please,
we do need that. That's really something that's I didn't
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know we had in common. Something else, believe it or not,
is fashion. Oh yes, I have sewn for like ten years.
I used to design clothes and all of that, and
I kind of got out of it when the podcast
started and all that. But I think, what's so cool
what you're doing with your merch because it's different. It's
not like a basic shirt that has a weird saying.
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It's like actually something that's you know, there's thought into it.
It's actually cute and it's I can tell you're really
hard worker, which I really like. If you could have
a fashion line, okay, and let's say you got one tomorrow,
what would your dream piece be to create? That's hard.
I am a huge fan of sweaters um as you
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can see. Yeah, just so I think like a good
I mean like a printed sweater like this with something
on it. Um. It's so interesting that you say that
about my merch because not a lot of people know.
I was talking to my manager about it yesterday that
everyone's She was like, everyone loved the merch and I
was like I know, and like, little does everyone know
we had I had like a week to come up
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with the ideas for all of that, and I had
like a full like vision board like photoshopped like all
these different things on it, like it was gonna be
a matching set. We were gonna have a bunch of
different things going around it. And then I called I
like get on a call of fan joy and they're like, Okay,
you have to keep it to three things, Max, And
I was like three things, Max, Like I have like
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ten things on this one sweatshow Like what am I
gonna do? Um? And so I really appreciate that. It
was like a very big shock to me that everyone
liked it so much. Obviously, like I loved it, but
it wasn't expecting other people too. I guess that's how
it is most of the time. Um. But back to
your original question, I think a sweater would probably be
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my favorite thing. What about you? Like that's hard because
it's like there's like a sure address pants, a sweater,
the accessories, not even Yeah, I love a good accessory
for the longest time, I didn't really appreciate, but like
they do so much. Like the littlest thing. I always
just have this one ring on. I just you know,
when you wear ring, it's like and you take it
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off for so long, like it feels weird. Yes, like
I haven't taken this off in two years. Wow, Okay,
yeah queen, Um, I yeah. I used to have like
the tan lines and everything, and then I got really
into rings. And then I saw Harry Styles cover on
Vogue and I saw him wearing a ring on every finger.
So now I'm like, okay, now I have to like
if Harry Styles doesn't you know, I don't understand why
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he got hate on that. That was the most iconic thing,
the whole essay on that actually with like the whole
like Candice Owen's talking about it, like I wrote like
a whole essay about it. It was so crazy, um
that I had the chance to do that for English class.
It was like a monument project. And I was like,
Harry Styles deserves a monument in the met in the
fashion exhibit, like it just has to happen. I don't
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understand why he got hit for that either, So dumb
when fun fact, when I was eight, I when I
was at jingle Ball, it was One Direction was pretty popping.
And I see Harristyles backstage and I go, I don't
think I've told anyone this. And I go up to him,
being like an eight or nine year old, to be like, Hi,
I'm a really big fan. Can I get an autographed
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for my best friend? I got her an autograph. All
I remember is he smelled so good? What really so good? Okay,
I like, I don't I'm scared to say this out loud,
but like, I was never like a really one like
a big one Direction fan, but ever since his new
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album came out, my friend told me that it was
like a whole storyline. I was like, oh my god,
I'm obsessed, Like this is amazing. I can't believe you.
Remember that I loved it was one of the moments
because I was so overwhelmed. But I remember him being
so nice because I was so little, and then he
was also so nice to my brother. I was like,
because that's the sticks with you seriously and also sticks
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out to you when the ones aren't very nice. Yeah, exactly.
Know when you look up to someone and they're actually nice.
It's like, wow, like, okay, I chose a right person.
I will say one of the most full circle thing
that's happened to me is in I was in Megan
Trainers meet and greet. UM I went, I made a
poster everything, and like four years later she was on
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my podcast and I told her about it. What did
she react with? She was like, that's awesome. It's a
full circle. And then she started following me on Instagram
and I'm like, she's a real one. She's the sweetest.
Love you, Megan when you look. I stood in line
for that meet and greet for so long and the
fact it was just like the most full circle moment
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for me. So everyone be nice to people. Yes, it
pays off. You don't know what they're impression of you
is going to be so true. And that's how I
feel with like even Instagram follows like my favorite like
bloggers like I don't know, I like I used to
like grow up watching Mrs Remy Ashton's UM YouTube video.
I don't know if you know who that is. Yes,
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of course I found out she follows me and I
was like, what the heck just happened? Like what is
this um? But Yeah, that's so full circle with Megan.
We love that. Did you watch all of like the
Milaresha videos the Black Friday? Were you one of those? I?
I mean I binged the Black Friday ones. Yes, long
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story short, Yes, I was a YouTube fanatic. I believe
I went to that Girl's Night intour and I was like, no, why,
I'm so jealous. I always I always wanted to go,
oh my god, you've picked them all. Wow, I took
what it was. I didn't. I was like, looking back,
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I don't know what it was. So everyone was going
everyone went crazy. What is like? What did they do
the whole time? Like nothing and everything? Does that make
sense that so much? It's just because like they were there,
and I think everyone just like they could have done
anything and everyone would have screamed. Like imagine having that
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kind of fan base. I love that. I really do
like Alicia, Marie and all of them. Yes, when they
those collabs, when they all did like those summer claus
was like the highlight of the month. But I wonder
because we're at those ages like when they were doing that,
which is so crazy to think, so like it makes
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me think like what was actually going on? Right? Like
what like, like they could not have just been filming
YouTube videos all day. I out, like, what, okay, we
have to take one final break up. When we come back,
I want to talk with you about misconceptions of high school,
how you found your group of people and your nonprofit
together is one and much more. We'll be right back
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and we're back. I'm curious if you've ever thought this,
But when I was younger, I thought I would be
so different at eighteen than I actually am. Like I
was like eighteen, like, oh my god. That was like
when the last high school musical will look like an adult,
I'll be like, first of all, they cast people way
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too old in movies, because I remember in ninth grade,
I was like, oh my goodness, there are gonna be
so many key boys. No, they're pre pubescent high school boys,
and they this the movies and the show's totally played me.
It's such a click bait. Like again, just have to
bring it back to Gossip Girl Chuck Boss, like like
he was probably like thirty filming it, Like what that's
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not really they were not the way first about the
way they dressed. They were not high school or see
that's the kind of high school stuff that I wish
was talked about me too, Like I was so blindsided
walking in. Is there anything you wish you're going into
high school? I feel like I just I could have
definitely skipped like the whole like trying to make friends
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face like I was gonna be alone anyway, might as
well just like because I don't know, like just do
the whole thing. Um, but yeah, I probably could have
done without that there trying to make friends first month
and now after watching gossip Girl, I figured like I've
been much more confrontational about things, where like, if something's
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bothering me, I'll like say it because I'm like there would. Um.
I don't like her. I don't know why she's so
she's mean. I'm sorry her, and we're going back to this,
but I know I don't get that, like they have
a very toxic relationship. I don't get the hype we're
I think this is just one of those things we're
going to agree to disagree on. Yeah, okay, moving on,
(30:10):
moving on, And what were we talking about? We're talking about,
Oh yeah, being confrontated. What do you wish you knew
in high school? Oh? Yeah, what about you? What do
you wish you knew. I've noticed some girls can be mean,
and you know, you find it everywhere. But I feel
like if we support each other and if we all
know that we're not competition, then that would make society better.
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In turn, that's true. I've met so many great people,
but so many people are so like the girls sometimes
don't have great motives. Yeah, Like I don't understand, like
we shouldn't be pitted against each other. There's enough of
that in this world. Seriously, if anything, we should support
each other more. And it's green. Girls can be mean.
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I was blindsided by that. I was also very blindsided
by like like I didn't think people like smoked or
like had alcohol. I was just like I was like what,
like what do you guys doing, Like I'm confused here,
or like I don't I don't know. Like we should
make like a reality. It's like like high school reality.
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Like again then podcast together for another one just talking
about the high school like reality. Yeah, we really should. Honestly,
I will say that one of the things that blindsided
me most um in New York. I'm sure this is everywhere,
but in New York, like especially, drugs are so prevalent.
I remember there's an eighth grader who did acid in
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eighth grade. My brothers were in eighth grade last year
and they told me about someone doing that too, and
I was like, oh, my goodness, that is thing. Like
I think it's a thing, and I think it's a thing.
To the fact that like I'm over here, and then
like all of high schoolers are over here, and it's
just like, everyone, stay safe. Don't do acid. It's not
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it will it will mess up your brain. I'm a
stre you just stay safe, yea, Like I just stay safe.
Like I totally get experimenting, like that's part of high school,
but never do anything that can kill you. That's my motto. Definitely.
I glad this isn't just a New York thing though. Yeah,
I'm glad. Yeah, but I can I can definitely see
where it's more. I don't know, I can kind of
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see the I mean, like people I see on TikTok
that I follow, like girls from New York are kind
of scary. Sometimes I understand that. I can understand why
that is. I think it's all it's but that's everywhere.
It's like finding your people. I think it's only again,
I was talking to this girl in the story. Yesterday
she went to f I T and she was like, um,
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she was like, I was like, so, how would you
describe the difference, And she was like, if someone doesn't
like you in New York, like they'll say it to
your face. If someone doesn't like you here, like Bill
talk bad about you to like tend of their friends,
and like you will have no idea, and like that's
just how I don't know, that's how it goes. I
guess it's interesting. No one has told me ever to
my face they didn't like me. But I've just heard
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like a lot of gossiping, which I just high school,
And then I think that's just high school. Like high school.
I think one of the main things that I've learned
is don't let that it feels so big in the moment,
but it's so small on the grand scheme of things.
Something else but I've been so happy when I found
this out, is that you have a nonprofit, which I
did not realize. I've always wanted to create a nonprofit.
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So what advice do you have for other people, because
it can be very intimidating to start a project or
start wanting to get in business, whether that is a
nonprofit or a fashion line. What advice do you have
for people who just want to start? That aspect itself
is overwhelming, it's kind of dumb, But like UM, as Nike,
you would say, just do it. No, there's no like
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downside in in starting it, and like that's the thing is.
I remember, like I wanted to start my nonprofit organization
UM for years, Like I knew like I knew I
wanted to do it, but I was like, I'm not ready,
Like it's not planned out enough, like I don't know
like what we're gonna call it, all these different things,
And then I got to the point where we were
just like we have to start now. If we're not
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going to start now, like it's not going to help
anyone UM, and so just starting it and like as
you progress it will change. Like for example, for mine,
I started it with my two best friends Sophie and Lola,
who are twins UM and so us us three started
it and like when we first started it, we post
like once a week, like just like a long video,
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and then we started skipping weeks and now we've gotten
to the point where it's like, Okay, we're just gonna
post like a bunch like every day like like quotes
and things like that, Like it doesn't have to be
like super planned out, but with like starting a fashion
line or starting company, it's just starting. Starting is like
the hardest part saying with like an essay, like like
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physically like starting, Yeah, you just need to start it
and don't overthink it too. That's a big thing. I
can get in my head a lot about it, and
then you're just in this downward spiral. Tell everyone how
how you got started with it? Because I think it's
a really good story. Um, well, it's a good story.
It's also kind of sad, how very how like kick
started so basically again started it with my two friends
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Sophie and Lola and their brothers had an anti bullying
nonprofit in high school and they went to like Columbia
and USC as well, and so you're like, okay, we
have to do it too, like fall on their footsteps.
Like they're like just these amazing people in high school
doing great things, and we're like, okay, we need to
start it too. So we started together as one um
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started posting doing you know, good deeds we do like
mis for Monday things like that. With that, I wait
as a do. I love that? Thank you. That's like
a lot of planning to like kind of iconic mis
for Monday. It's the Monday. It was a hole my canoes. Yes,
so like handing out flowers to people. It was mis
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for Monday post day. Um, can we make that a
national holiday? Thaturday's misa Monday. No, it should just be
like an Instagram hashtag, like you do something nice on
Monday in time, and you have to wear blue too. Yes,
of course I love that. Okay, continue, We're gonna start that,
um okay. And so a few weeks in two together's one,
there was actually, um a shooting at our synagogue. It
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was also where Sophie, Lola and I went to preschool
and grew up, and so like all of our teachers
were there, um, all of like our mentors were there.
And so there's a shooting and it like really rocked
our community. Like it was seriously less than a mile
away from my house. That's terrifying. Yeah, it was scary,
and so our whole community had no idea what to do,
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and like even going to school, like no teachers were
talking about it and no one was like acknowledging it
and we were like, what the heck, Like this needs
to be a thing, like we need to talk about
so people know it's not okay, and like so people
know they have like a place to come to. And
so that's when we really kick started together as one,
and we sold like a bunch and we made T
shirts and we sold a bunch of T shirts and
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like everyone my school is wearing them. And we donated
like over a few thousand dollars to UM, the leaders
of the synagogue in the preschool, and that was an
amazing moment because we grew up with them UM, and
so that's kind of how we started our name. And
then from there it became a club UM. And we figured,
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like how we kind of pitched the club to our
principle is that there was like Chess club for people
who played chess. There was Chinese club for people who
are Chinese. There's UM Spanish club for people who speak Spanish,
but there's no club for like everyone to go to
if you want like a safe place. And so we
created together as one, which was basically like a classroom.
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It was like the biggest club in school. Was crazy
that it's like a classroom. What we're like I like
one of our club meetings was you'd come and like
just eat lunch with your friends and like everyone was
talking and we'd like make nice posters saying nice things,
and like we'd put them out for everything and then
posted on with the Monday things like that. Um. And
so it really got to be an amazinging organization at school.
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And then we're just about to expand to other schools
and COVID hit and so that like just stopped everything, um,
and so we're continuing to rebuild that from now. What's
amazing about me gaining this following over Quarantine is that
a lot of it has transferred over to Together as
One and like, for example, there's it Together as One
club in Paris, and like they'd have no idea about
(38:23):
it if it wasn't for like starting on tiktoking, like
I mean, like it kind of started on hate and
like here bring in I know, turning into like that's awesome, right,
so cool um. And so for people who want who
are listening to this, if like this seems like something
you want to be a part of, um, you can
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start one at your school if you go to Together's One.
Well on Instagram, it's called t G a O movement
because I was the only domain available. Um, we have
like a whole power point slide for like starting a
club and just we like are very we're like advocating
for like kindness and just like being very inclusive and
selling shirts and donating it and we will have like
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holes for which donation center we should do and we
need kindness. We do, we really do. Back to your
question before, which is like, like how how do I
start something? If you like again you like just like
Together as one, Like we just had to like start it,
and like something happened and we took that and like
turned it into kindness and turned it into love and
(39:29):
like a super like great place for a community. Um,
and so anyone who maybe if you don't have an
idea like started Together as One club, like it's made
and like it's only like we only wanted to get
bigger and like better and more stuff can come from it.
And I think we all need kindness. And I think
it's awesome what you're doing with that in your platform,
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and you're not just doing it to post stupid stuff
but to actually have a meaningful impact, And I think
that's really incredible. You so much. It was like a
thing where I when people see when I see people
wearing like a together is One shirt, it's such a
sign that like, okay, we have the same morals. And
that's what was really important to us, um, just making
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sure we had that community of good people and like
if you were being made fun of, like you could
come together as one club and like it was like
we were there for you. Um. I know I wish,
I wish you could have could have joined with us,
but I know I love that though. Thank Ellie, thank
you for coming on my podcast. I think this was
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an awesome conversation and I'm I'm so excited that everyone
gets hearing me too. I'm so excited to come to
New York and we can go to our shows and
you can come to l A and I can we
can get tormented by Paparazza. I'm just kidding you, Okay, Alright,
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you guys, I hope you love this episode as much
as I do. I honestly had the best time talking
to Allie. If you haven't already followed her on social media,
subscribe to the podcast and follow me on Instagram at
its Sammy J. Thank you so much for listening. I
hope this episode brightened your day just a little bit,
and I will see you guys next week. Bye guys.
Hey guys, and welcome to this week's episode of The
Real Podcast. As always, my name is Sammy J. And
you guys, this week's episode is with Ellie's Eiler. Now,
you may know her from TikTok, Instagram, social media, but
when I tell you, I felt like I've known this
girl for years, I am not exaggerating. We had so
much in common I was shocked by it. We talk
(00:25):
about the fakeness of social media, how to find true friends,
how to deal with hate. We talk about fashion, her
love of New York, and so much more. We also
talk about her nonprofit Together as One, which I'm so
excited for you to hear about. I hope you guys
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Sammy JA. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode and
I look forward to your thoughts. So I am so
excited that you're on my podcast, first of all, because
I feel like we have a lot of things in common.
Me too. I'm so excited to be here. We have
a weird amount of things in common. We're both teenagers,
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we're both working, we're both dealing with the social media thing,
which it's social media is crazy. We started like the
same way too, and we have like like the same
like tendencies, you know what I mean. I feel like
I'm like our call before, where it's like things like
the old soul thing like all different, you know what
(01:29):
I'm saying. It's just like things like that are the same.
I don't know about you, but I've been trying to
limit my phone time just because I realized during the
height of the pandemic when I was inside, my phone
time was probably like twelve or thirteen hours a day,
and I was like, whoa, yeah, that's a lot. I
don't even turn mine on anymore. I don't. I don't
(01:52):
want to see it because honestly, like my favorite time
of the day is when I like turn it off. Um,
there's really and like nothing pressing, Like I don't like
I don't really like snapchat people. I don't. I just
like text and do take talk and take Instagram pictures
and then I post it and turn it off. See
that sounds lovely. I think Snapchat is terrible. I think
(02:16):
it's interesting, but terrible, but just because like the snap
maps a big thing where you live, Yeah, it is.
I don't know if you've experienced this, but like in
the city, it can be really hard because you'll see
people hanging out together like on snap maps. When they
say they're not, it's like this, it was this whole thing.
Oh my gosh, that's funny. Like no one. I used
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to live in North Carolina and like if you go
on my snap map, like everyone's is turned on, like
over there on the East Coast, and like no one's
is where I live. Like everyone is like doing their
own thing and very private about it. But it's like fun.
It's like gossip Girl, like the little like maths that
they use. I okay, here's a question. When you come
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to New York, are you into the gossip Girl vibe?
Oh yeah, well actually I started it over Quarantine. I
started gossip Girl for the first time ever. Quarantine. It's
like completely changed my life, like literally had to get
like pack of packs of head bands, like had to
like change the whole style for that. But I haven't
been to New York since, and so I remember going
(03:16):
and seeing like Gossip Girl tours or like people taking
pictures on the met steps and being like, oh, I
wonder what that's where? And now I know. Now you
get the references exactly exactly. Okay, Wait, so you start
you from North Carolina, so where I know you've moved
a bunch where or all the places you've lived? So
I lived. I lived in California until I was in
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seventh grade, and then I lived in North Carolina for
just one year and then I came right back, um
to California. But like in here, I've moved like different
schools and different houses and things like that. What about you?
Have you lived in New York your whole life. I'm
a city girl. I've lived here my entire life. That's
so fun. Oh my gosh. I mean it's it's so
(03:57):
interesting to me because everyone from l A one to
New York and like, I want to go to California.
It's true. I was talking to this girl um in
a story yesterday and she went to college in New
York and I was like, how is that? Like why
are you back? And she was like I wish I
wasn't back. I love it there, And I'm like, really,
everyone I talked to that goes like comes right back
(04:18):
to California. But I don't know. I really like it,
but I when when did you say was the last
time you came here? I think it was last February.
Oh wow, it's been a long time. I mean, you're
not missing much. Like it's not like l A, like
you go on to Melrose Girt shopping like no one's
out anymore, which is interesting. But like then again, like
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that's so crazy, Like that's all I want to do
is go to New York. I had tickets for this
past weekend and I had them planned and then we
had to cancel them. So it was a sad moment.
But have you seen any Broadway shows? Because that's the
one thing that if you're here that I recommend. Really,
I mean, when I was younger, show those I like
(05:00):
saw completely forgot, but I will do that. Maybe we
should go to a show when I come. Yes, we
have to go together. Okay, I recommend mean girls on Broadway. Okay,
let's do it. Incredible, Uh, Hamilton's of course, and dear
Van Hanson, those are like my go to three. We're
going all three. We're going to go to all of them.
I am down for that, and I think one of
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the I think one of the other reasons why we
have so much in comedies. We were the same age.
We're both in high school, and it's really I don't
know about you, but I'm finding it really difficult, as
you know, school has gotten really weird because of COVID
to just like have a healthy work life balance with
school and that it's also finding a balance with friends
(05:44):
who are there for the right reasons. I know you
started social media and like March, how in the time
that you've been on social media, have you noticed any
people coming back into your life out of the blue
when you go viral? Oh? Yes, I think from like
all different years of my life, like all years in
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all grades, like people have come back, Like the people
that have hurt my feelings have been like will you
unblock me? Or will you like, I'm so sorry? Can
we be friends? Like I'd love to hang out And
I'm never like I'm not necessarily a mean person, and
so I don't like to like be mean back, of course,
but it's like I have no response for them. I'm like,
oh my gosh, that's so crazy, or even like hanging
(06:28):
out with new people. They'll be like, oh my god,
I had a situation with a boy. It was like
the first like I had. I was talking like zero boys,
and then I talked to this one for like a
good two weeks in quarantine, and he would say things
like you'd be like, um, like you can meet my
family if you post me on your TikTok and like
no one knows about this, so you know whatever. But
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I was like, oh my gosh, like who says that? Who?
Who does that? And so then I just find myself
in my house all day and my mom's like on
Friday nights, She's like, I think you should go hang
out with your friends, and I'm like, like, what who
am I going out with? I will say I've had
some I try not to let people know about, like
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if it's in that like when I'm talking to someone,
because then the first question is can I be on
your podcast? Why can't I be on your pod? I'm
like what, yeah, you know right? And I'm like who,
Like I would never think to like say that to someone, right,
Like who thinks to say that? What? It's ballsy though
(07:34):
it is, oh the whole like me, your family, if
you post me on TikTok. That was that was like, okay, wow,
like that's ridiculous. I also feel like, I don't know
about you, but it's so hard to find a nice
guy nowadays because of COVID, because of social media and
(07:54):
everything's like over Snapchat and it's like just text me,
like that's so much call me, I just me FaceTime.
Yeah what I want? I want Chuck Bass or something
like that all time. I don't get the hype with him,
can somebody, No, I don't get our first difference. Okay, No,
(08:16):
he's okay, I'm here's my reasoning. I the first episode,
he like tries to assault the little sister. Am I wrong? Okay,
he's grown, he grew up. He grew so much like okay,
he does. The first and second season, I was like,
you know, who is this like trying to get with everyone?
And then by the end I was like, oh my gosh,
(08:36):
Like I know it's a controversial opinion, but I found
him attractive when I found out he's British in real life,
because for some reason, someone gets like ten points when
they're British. So true, Okay, okay, thank you for saying that. Yeah,
I know. I followed him on Instagram. And the thing is,
it's like he seems obviously we don't know him. Maybe
we should find out, we should maybe we should ask
him to come on. Yes, we need a group FaceTime call.
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His name is Edwin. Okay, he looks like an Edwin,
he does, and he has the accent. And he also
in all of his Instagram posts he's like in Greece
in Paris, like just like living the life of bass.
And I was like, wow, how amazing, Like maybe it
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really does happen. Maybe I'm just like we're living in
such a weird time that I feel like for me,
I'm always that are fron all the way ever since
like two thousand six. Yeah, I've never been. I've never been.
Uh I know a banana, I've never or like musical
like never like whoa, I know our second difference. No,
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I count this in the same boat. This is like
the boys. Okay. I think that's fair because that means like,
if there's a boy that's like my type, like you're
not gonna like him too, So it's just not going
to create a conflict with us. It's a good thing, exactly,
it's good. Did be not too similar, but I feel
like something. I don't know if you've experienced this at
win l A, but it's really hard to find people
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that are there for the right reasons where it's not
for followers or to get on your TikTok. Have you
come up with a circle of privacy when you realize
someone's not there for the right reasons? How how have
you dealt with that? Because I'm still learning because it's weird.
I yeah, I'm still learning with that too. I wish
I had I wish you had an exact answer you
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could tell me with that, because when this boy did
that to me, I just remember texting him and being
like sorry, like with school and everything, like I just
don't have time, like I need to stop talking with you,
like it's distracting me and all this stuff, and that
was it. And I would you say l O L Yeah, no,
he has like no idea that, like I guess I
mean now he does, like sorry, actually blocked him. I
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don't want him say any of my stuff anymore. That's fair. Well,
blocking is such a great answer to a bunch of things,
like everyone is like blocking is so many but it's
so like you're just like on like they don't follow,
you know, you don't follow them. Something you can do
that I didn't realize is that you can have the
person unfollow you. But like I'm a public account, so
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like if he were to go, like he can still
see everything, but that means he would be looking you up.
Like I'm saying, if they don't really look you up,
they would have no idea. They would just stop seeing
your feet. Okay, you're right, Okay, maybe I need to
retract a little bit and do the like remove the
follower type thing. I don't know. It's so interesting to
me because I've had the way people have treated me.
(11:34):
When I'm starting on my podcast. It wasn't to like
get a podcast. It was like a way to distract
from my anxiety and what was going on with my
friends at the time. And it's so interesting because I
haven't heard a thing from them. But then I think
when Dixie came on, I got a bunch of d
M from people I haven't heard from in a year
and a half to two years. So crazy, it's so weird,
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you know, it's just weird. It's like it's kind of
like I compare it to when someone is like mean
in school, Like I would like I don't I don't
think to be mean to someone, and so it's just
like that way where it's like I wouldn't think to
ask someone to post me or things like that. Well,
first of all, that's so aggressive, right, it's so aggressive,
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but like something else that I've been trying to find
interesting balance with this, making sure the positive comments are
what my priority priority are. But then you know, the
hate can get pretty, you know, shitty sometimes. Something that
I don't understand is they hate you get is so
unjustified because you're just yourself. And I think you've had
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to prove you had to work harder than a lot
of people because you can't just do like the regular dances.
You have to you know, be yourself to prove that
you're not just like every other TikToker. What has that
experience been like on your mental health? Just keeping a
healthy balance with it, but also not letting that hate
get to you. I mean, it's it's been hard. I
I think, like in the beginn inning it was a
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lot of talking and a lot of crying and therapy
and just getting through it. I've always had very thick
skin because of things that happened to me in person,
and like things that went on in school and bullying
and all that type of stuff, and so I guess
I'm lucky. I was talking about this yesterday actually actually
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with my mom, where it's like if I was like
mentally unstable at the beginning of quarantine from school and everything,
and I started this like I don't know how I
could have gotten through it. But so like when someone's
mean to me online, it doesn't like resonnate as much
as if like I've been in like Target or like
walking down the street or like walking my dogs and
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people like call me names. They're like, oh my god,
it's Charlie and like all this stuff, and like I
don't know how to react to it when it's in person.
Wine I can, definitely I can. I can sometimes handle it,
but it's also like I've had it's been harder and
like a lot more work than a lot of people
I guess would see. Where it's like I post now,
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I post like vlogs, and I post like dancing videos
as well, and I post fashion videos and I post
cooking videos just so people can see like how I
actually am on camera. I wish it was like a
FaceTime call with every single follower of mine that like
I could talk to them because that's how I've always
been in person. I'm like way more of a talk
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in person, just like you said, like I'm not a snapchatter,
Like we like to call and talk with people, and
I feel like my personality is so much more than
I mean, anyone's looks. But it's it was just interesting
how it got off that way, and like in person too,
like that. Yeah, I get people do things online because
they're behind a screen, but like the fact that they
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did that in person is that people are balls. The
I I could never like, I could never I know,
I want to go in their minds. It's rough, like
what makes them think that, Like the psychology behind that
or is there like rainbow and like sunshine and we
go and there's something cleaning hate coming out somehow on
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my YouTube. The fact that paparazzi are coming to you
as a teenage girl, like grown men, grown men asking
you questions about petty TikTok drama. Yeah, that's odd. Yeah,
I feel like that's like the difference between I guess
like New York and like l A, where that's like
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very normal. Here, it's just a difference between different I
guess paparazzi experiences would be it's like an astronomical difference,
like Hollywood Fix and like Fletcher, I don't know if
you've heard of him, um, but he's like he's like
gotten very respectful and asks me questions other like I
was on the sidewalk with my brother and he was
(15:50):
actually he was like doing like suffilon or something. There
was like I don't know, it was the whole thing,
and he like comes up to me and he was like, oh,
is this a coult? Like are you joining a coal?
And then I was like I don't know how to
ad like I didn't know how to answer. That's like
so like are you always copying people? I'm like, who,
like nice to meet you? Like him out like great,
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happy Sunday, Like what are you doing? Also, you're a
grown ass man, you're a six girl? What are you doing?
Like I'm sixteen? Like okay, calm down, please, thank you
very much. Like I don't know how we'd handle myself
in that type of situation. That's overwhelming. Just like I said,
like the in person things are really hard like that,
like like it like stumps you like full on you
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can be like you're on camera and then it goes
on YouTube, I know, and then like let's say you're quiet,
Like I know, I've watched Hollywood fixed videos where like
people are quiet and they just like walk by and
don't answer, and then all the comments are like, oh
my god, she's so rude or it's so hard. It's
so it's like I can never win. So hard I know,
you can never win. You can never win. I remember
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that one Sunday we were walking like and like it's
like the guy like completely ruined my day. Like it
just like really hurt my feelings to like here because
I feel like I've come so far from the beginning
and like my reputation and everything like that, and like
here it be brought up again and here I am.
He was like walking backwards and like I was like,
oh my god, you're about to trip and like being
like so nice, and then he walks away and I
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was like wow, like is that really what people think
of me? Still? And then I was like, why is
he like thirty years old follows me? Like, but I
think that's more telling on their part that it's Yeah, honestly,
kudos to you for just handling yourself against all of that. Okay,
enough about the crazy paparazzi. We have to take a
(17:42):
quick break. But when we come back, I want to
talk to you about how you balance social media with school,
our mutual love a fashion and design. You might throw
in a little Harry Styles talk and much more. We'll
be right back and we're back. I found it's hard
to find a balance between everything going on in the world,
(18:02):
be work and also school. I mean, we're students. How
have you been doing with that? Um? I have a
very i'd say, like strict schedule where it's like wake up,
do school, finish like a good amount, like a lot
of my classes, and then do work and then at
night if I have anything more to do that and
like keep up with it. But last year, like the
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ending of last year was rough, Like I got so behind,
and like obviously it's just hard because who wouldn't like
when someone when my mom, because my mom usually reminds
me and like it's literally right here, like she like
makes lists of everything that I have to do during
the day. When I like see that on the counter,
and it's like make two tiktoks, make an Instagram picture,
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Like of course I want to do that instead of
writing an English essay of course, but like that's really
I mean, the only reason that I can get to
go to New York is because I want to go
to n y U and I want to go to
college all these different things. But it's like it's a struggle,
and I feel like not a lot of tick talkers
or people in social media. I have to do it
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because it seems like everyone is just doing this one thing,
whereas there's quite there's like a little group that like
I can tell they're like going to college or doing
like high school and this What about you? Though? What what?
What's your schedule? You know what I mean? For that?
So with COVID, I would have if code wasn't a thing,
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I'd be going to classes five days a week. UM.
So now classes are only three days a week for me. Um,
I'm taking five or six courses and I have my
school day. I have my classes. It's with other people
just virtually um, and then I do the work. I
try and get dead I do in between classes. I
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try and get work done in some classes if it's
like you know, drama or something, Oh, maybe do a
little a multitask a little bit ya off a yeah,
like maybe doing some extra work. But I think the
hardest thing for me is, you know, I'll be doing
my statistics homework and then I'll get a phone call
being like, okay, we need this approval for x y z.
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We need you to create x y z, and it's
like I do that, but then I have to go
back in statistics mode. So it's like this weird thing
that's like so hard to go back and forth between
this creative side of things that I want to do
and things that you know, it's I'm glad I'm doing it,
but it's just like hard to go back and forth.
So true, it's so hard with like the different minds
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and like even like I've seen with like binging TikTok
this whole quarantine. Like my attention span is so short.
It's like rough, Like how like I can be watching
TV and be like looking at my phone. Like it's like,
so it's so bad, but you're so right. Well, like
I'll be in the middle of a quiz and like
my mom will be like, oh and this is due
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when you're done, and then I'm like okay, I'm done,
Like let's do it now. It's like never gets finished.
But it's hard. If anyone anyone listening to this, if
you have any tips, recommendations for us, we need this
advice comment please, we are always looking for some advice. Please,
we do need that. That's really something that's I didn't
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know we had in common. Something else, believe it or not,
is fashion. Oh yes, I have sewn for like ten years.
I used to design clothes and all of that, and
I kind of got out of it when the podcast
started and all that. But I think, what's so cool
what you're doing with your merch because it's different. It's
not like a basic shirt that has a weird saying.
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It's like actually something that's you know, there's thought into it.
It's actually cute and it's I can tell you're really
hard worker, which I really like. If you could have
a fashion line, okay, and let's say you got one tomorrow,
what would your dream piece be to create? That's hard.
I am a huge fan of sweaters um as you
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can see. Yeah, just so I think like a good
I mean like a printed sweater like this with something
on it. Um. It's so interesting that you say that
about my merch because not a lot of people know.
I was talking to my manager about it yesterday that
everyone's She was like, everyone loved the merch and I
was like I know, and like, little does everyone know
we had I had like a week to come up
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with the ideas for all of that, and I had
like a full like vision board like photoshopped like all
these different things on it, like it was gonna be
a matching set. We were gonna have a bunch of
different things going around it. And then I called I
like get on a call of fan joy and they're like, Okay,
you have to keep it to three things, Max, And
I was like three things, Max, Like I have like
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ten things on this one sweatshow Like what am I
gonna do? Um? And so I really appreciate that. It
was like a very big shock to me that everyone
liked it so much. Obviously, like I loved it, but
it wasn't expecting other people too. I guess that's how
it is most of the time. Um. But back to
your original question, I think a sweater would probably be
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my favorite thing. What about you? Like that's hard because
it's like there's like a sure address pants, a sweater,
the accessories, not even Yeah, I love a good accessory
for the longest time, I didn't really appreciate, but like
they do so much. Like the littlest thing. I always
just have this one ring on. I just you know,
when you wear ring, it's like and you take it
(23:27):
off for so long, like it feels weird. Yes, like
I haven't taken this off in two years. Wow, Okay,
yeah queen, Um, I yeah. I used to have like
the tan lines and everything, and then I got really
into rings. And then I saw Harry Styles cover on
Vogue and I saw him wearing a ring on every finger.
So now I'm like, okay, now I have to like
if Harry Styles doesn't you know, I don't understand why
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he got hate on that. That was the most iconic thing,
the whole essay on that actually with like the whole
like Candice Owen's talking about it, like I wrote like
a whole essay about it. It was so crazy, um
that I had the chance to do that for English class.
It was like a monument project. And I was like,
Harry Styles deserves a monument in the met in the
fashion exhibit, like it just has to happen. I don't
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understand why he got hit for that either, So dumb
when fun fact, when I was eight, I when I
was at jingle Ball, it was One Direction was pretty popping.
And I see Harristyles backstage and I go, I don't
think I've told anyone this. And I go up to him,
being like an eight or nine year old, to be like, Hi,
I'm a really big fan. Can I get an autographed
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for my best friend? I got her an autograph. All
I remember is he smelled so good? What really so good? Okay,
I like, I don't I'm scared to say this out loud,
but like, I was never like a really one like
a big one Direction fan, but ever since his new
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album came out, my friend told me that it was
like a whole storyline. I was like, oh my god,
I'm obsessed, Like this is amazing. I can't believe you.
Remember that I loved it was one of the moments
because I was so overwhelmed. But I remember him being
so nice because I was so little, and then he
was also so nice to my brother. I was like,
because that's the sticks with you seriously and also sticks
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out to you when the ones aren't very nice. Yeah, exactly.
Know when you look up to someone and they're actually nice.
It's like, wow, like, okay, I chose a right person.
I will say one of the most full circle thing
that's happened to me is in I was in Megan
Trainers meet and greet. UM I went, I made a
poster everything, and like four years later she was on
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my podcast and I told her about it. What did
she react with? She was like, that's awesome. It's a
full circle. And then she started following me on Instagram
and I'm like, she's a real one. She's the sweetest.
Love you, Megan when you look. I stood in line
for that meet and greet for so long and the
fact it was just like the most full circle moment
(26:02):
for me. So everyone be nice to people. Yes, it
pays off. You don't know what they're impression of you
is going to be so true. And that's how I
feel with like even Instagram follows like my favorite like
bloggers like I don't know, I like I used to
like grow up watching Mrs Remy Ashton's UM YouTube video.
I don't know if you know who that is. Yes,
(26:23):
of course I found out she follows me and I
was like, what the heck just happened? Like what is
this um? But Yeah, that's so full circle with Megan.
We love that. Did you watch all of like the
Milaresha videos the Black Friday? Were you one of those? I?
I mean I binged the Black Friday ones. Yes, long
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story short, Yes, I was a YouTube fanatic. I believe
I went to that Girl's Night intour and I was like, no, why,
I'm so jealous. I always I always wanted to go,
oh my god, you've picked them all. Wow, I took
what it was. I didn't. I was like, looking back,
(27:06):
I don't know what it was. So everyone was going
everyone went crazy. What is like? What did they do
the whole time? Like nothing and everything? Does that make
sense that so much? It's just because like they were there,
and I think everyone just like they could have done
anything and everyone would have screamed. Like imagine having that
(27:29):
kind of fan base. I love that. I really do
like Alicia, Marie and all of them. Yes, when they
those collabs, when they all did like those summer claus
was like the highlight of the month. But I wonder
because we're at those ages like when they were doing that,
which is so crazy to think, so like it makes
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me think like what was actually going on? Right? Like
what like, like they could not have just been filming
YouTube videos all day. I out, like, what, okay, we
have to take one final break up. When we come back,
I want to talk with you about misconceptions of high school,
how you found your group of people and your nonprofit
together is one and much more. We'll be right back
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and we're back. I'm curious if you've ever thought this,
But when I was younger, I thought I would be
so different at eighteen than I actually am. Like I
was like eighteen, like, oh my god. That was like
when the last high school musical will look like an adult,
I'll be like, first of all, they cast people way
(28:39):
too old in movies, because I remember in ninth grade,
I was like, oh my goodness, there are gonna be
so many key boys. No, they're pre pubescent high school boys,
and they this the movies and the show's totally played me.
It's such a click bait. Like again, just have to
bring it back to Gossip Girl Chuck Boss, like like
he was probably like thirty filming it, Like what that's
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not really they were not the way first about the
way they dressed. They were not high school or see
that's the kind of high school stuff that I wish
was talked about me too, Like I was so blindsided
walking in. Is there anything you wish you're going into
high school? I feel like I just I could have
definitely skipped like the whole like trying to make friends
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face like I was gonna be alone anyway, might as
well just like because I don't know, like just do
the whole thing. Um, but yeah, I probably could have
done without that there trying to make friends first month
and now after watching gossip Girl, I figured like I've
been much more confrontational about things, where like, if something's
(29:43):
bothering me, I'll like say it because I'm like there would. Um.
I don't like her. I don't know why she's so
she's mean. I'm sorry her, and we're going back to this,
but I know I don't get that, like they have
a very toxic relationship. I don't get the hype we're
I think this is just one of those things we're
going to agree to disagree on. Yeah, okay, moving on,
(30:10):
moving on, And what were we talking about? We're talking about,
Oh yeah, being confrontated. What do you wish you knew
in high school? Oh? Yeah, what about you? What do
you wish you knew. I've noticed some girls can be mean,
and you know, you find it everywhere. But I feel
like if we support each other and if we all
know that we're not competition, then that would make society better.
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In turn, that's true. I've met so many great people,
but so many people are so like the girls sometimes
don't have great motives. Yeah, Like I don't understand, like
we shouldn't be pitted against each other. There's enough of
that in this world. Seriously, if anything, we should support
each other more. And it's green. Girls can be mean.
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I was blindsided by that. I was also very blindsided
by like like I didn't think people like smoked or
like had alcohol. I was just like I was like what,
like what do you guys doing, Like I'm confused here,
or like I don't I don't know. Like we should
make like a reality. It's like like high school reality.
(31:15):
Like again then podcast together for another one just talking
about the high school like reality. Yeah, we really should. Honestly,
I will say that one of the things that blindsided
me most um in New York. I'm sure this is everywhere,
but in New York, like especially, drugs are so prevalent.
I remember there's an eighth grader who did acid in
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eighth grade. My brothers were in eighth grade last year
and they told me about someone doing that too, and
I was like, oh, my goodness, that is thing. Like
I think it's a thing, and I think it's a thing.
To the fact that like I'm over here, and then
like all of high schoolers are over here, and it's
just like, everyone, stay safe. Don't do acid. It's not
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it will it will mess up your brain. I'm a
stre you just stay safe, yea, Like I just stay safe.
Like I totally get experimenting, like that's part of high school,
but never do anything that can kill you. That's my motto. Definitely.
I glad this isn't just a New York thing though. Yeah,
I'm glad. Yeah, but I can I can definitely see
where it's more. I don't know, I can kind of
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see the I mean, like people I see on TikTok
that I follow, like girls from New York are kind
of scary. Sometimes I understand that. I can understand why
that is. I think it's all it's but that's everywhere.
It's like finding your people. I think it's only again,
I was talking to this girl in the story. Yesterday
she went to f I T and she was like, um,
(32:41):
she was like, I was like, so, how would you
describe the difference, And she was like, if someone doesn't
like you in New York, like they'll say it to
your face. If someone doesn't like you here, like Bill
talk bad about you to like tend of their friends,
and like you will have no idea, and like that's
just how I don't know, that's how it goes. I
guess it's interesting. No one has told me ever to
my face they didn't like me. But I've just heard
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like a lot of gossiping, which I just high school,
And then I think that's just high school. Like high school.
I think one of the main things that I've learned
is don't let that it feels so big in the moment,
but it's so small on the grand scheme of things.
Something else but I've been so happy when I found
this out, is that you have a nonprofit, which I
did not realize. I've always wanted to create a nonprofit.
(33:25):
So what advice do you have for other people, because
it can be very intimidating to start a project or
start wanting to get in business, whether that is a
nonprofit or a fashion line. What advice do you have
for people who just want to start? That aspect itself
is overwhelming, it's kind of dumb, But like UM, as Nike,
you would say, just do it. No, there's no like
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downside in in starting it, and like that's the thing is.
I remember, like I wanted to start my nonprofit organization
UM for years, Like I knew like I knew I
wanted to do it, but I was like, I'm not ready,
Like it's not planned out enough, like I don't know
like what we're gonna call it, all these different things,
And then I got to the point where we were
just like we have to start now. If we're not
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going to start now, like it's not going to help
anyone UM, and so just starting it and like as
you progress it will change. Like for example, for mine,
I started it with my two best friends Sophie and Lola,
who are twins UM and so us us three started
it and like when we first started it, we post
like once a week, like just like a long video,
(34:28):
and then we started skipping weeks and now we've gotten
to the point where it's like, Okay, we're just gonna
post like a bunch like every day like like quotes
and things like that, Like it doesn't have to be
like super planned out, but with like starting a fashion
line or starting company, it's just starting. Starting is like
the hardest part saying with like an essay, like like
(34:48):
physically like starting, Yeah, you just need to start it
and don't overthink it too. That's a big thing. I
can get in my head a lot about it, and
then you're just in this downward spiral. Tell everyone how
how you got started with it? Because I think it's
a really good story. Um, well, it's a good story.
It's also kind of sad, how very how like kick
started so basically again started it with my two friends
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Sophie and Lola and their brothers had an anti bullying
nonprofit in high school and they went to like Columbia
and USC as well, and so you're like, okay, we
have to do it too, like fall on their footsteps.
Like they're like just these amazing people in high school
doing great things, and we're like, okay, we need to
start it too. So we started together as one um
(35:32):
started posting doing you know, good deeds we do like
mis for Monday things like that. With that, I wait
as a do. I love that? Thank you. That's like
a lot of planning to like kind of iconic mis
for Monday. It's the Monday. It was a hole my canoes. Yes,
so like handing out flowers to people. It was mis
(35:52):
for Monday post day. Um, can we make that a
national holiday? Thaturday's misa Monday. No, it should just be
like an Instagram hashtag, like you do something nice on
Monday in time, and you have to wear blue too. Yes,
of course I love that. Okay, continue, We're gonna start that,
um okay. And so a few weeks in two together's one,
there was actually, um a shooting at our synagogue. It
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was also where Sophie, Lola and I went to preschool
and grew up, and so like all of our teachers
were there, um, all of like our mentors were there.
And so there's a shooting and it like really rocked
our community. Like it was seriously less than a mile
away from my house. That's terrifying. Yeah, it was scary,
and so our whole community had no idea what to do,
(36:37):
and like even going to school, like no teachers were
talking about it and no one was like acknowledging it
and we were like, what the heck, Like this needs
to be a thing, like we need to talk about
so people know it's not okay, and like so people
know they have like a place to come to. And
so that's when we really kick started together as one,
and we sold like a bunch and we made T
shirts and we sold a bunch of T shirts and
(36:58):
like everyone my school is wearing them. And we donated
like over a few thousand dollars to UM, the leaders
of the synagogue in the preschool, and that was an
amazing moment because we grew up with them UM, and
so that's kind of how we started our name. And
then from there it became a club UM. And we figured,
(37:19):
like how we kind of pitched the club to our
principle is that there was like Chess club for people
who played chess. There was Chinese club for people who
are Chinese. There's UM Spanish club for people who speak Spanish,
but there's no club for like everyone to go to
if you want like a safe place. And so we
created together as one, which was basically like a classroom.
(37:39):
It was like the biggest club in school. Was crazy
that it's like a classroom. What we're like I like
one of our club meetings was you'd come and like
just eat lunch with your friends and like everyone was
talking and we'd like make nice posters saying nice things,
and like we'd put them out for everything and then
posted on with the Monday things like that. Um. And
so it really got to be an amazinging organization at school.
(38:01):
And then we're just about to expand to other schools
and COVID hit and so that like just stopped everything, um,
and so we're continuing to rebuild that from now. What's
amazing about me gaining this following over Quarantine is that
a lot of it has transferred over to Together as
One and like, for example, there's it Together as One
club in Paris, and like they'd have no idea about
(38:23):
it if it wasn't for like starting on tiktoking, like
I mean, like it kind of started on hate and
like here bring in I know, turning into like that's awesome, right,
so cool um. And so for people who want who
are listening to this, if like this seems like something
you want to be a part of, um, you can
(38:44):
start one at your school if you go to Together's One.
Well on Instagram, it's called t G a O movement
because I was the only domain available. Um, we have
like a whole power point slide for like starting a
club and just we like are very we're like advocating
for like kindness and just like being very inclusive and
selling shirts and donating it and we will have like
(39:07):
holes for which donation center we should do and we
need kindness. We do, we really do. Back to your
question before, which is like, like how how do I
start something? If you like again you like just like
Together as one, Like we just had to like start it,
and like something happened and we took that and like
turned it into kindness and turned it into love and
(39:29):
like a super like great place for a community. Um,
and so anyone who maybe if you don't have an
idea like started Together as One club, like it's made
and like it's only like we only wanted to get
bigger and like better and more stuff can come from it.
And I think we all need kindness. And I think
it's awesome what you're doing with that in your platform,
(39:52):
and you're not just doing it to post stupid stuff
but to actually have a meaningful impact, And I think
that's really incredible. You so much. It was like a
thing where I when people see when I see people
wearing like a together is One shirt, it's such a
sign that like, okay, we have the same morals. And
that's what was really important to us, um, just making
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sure we had that community of good people and like
if you were being made fun of, like you could
come together as one club and like it was like
we were there for you. Um. I know I wish,
I wish you could have could have joined with us,
but I know I love that though. Thank Ellie, thank
you for coming on my podcast. I think this was
(40:34):
an awesome conversation and I'm I'm so excited that everyone
gets hearing me too. I'm so excited to come to
New York and we can go to our shows and
you can come to l A and I can we
can get tormented by Paparazza. I'm just kidding you, Okay, Alright,
(40:54):
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as I do. I honestly had the best time talking
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its Sammy J. Thank you so much for listening. I
hope this episode brightened your day just a little bit,
and I will see you guys next week. Bye guys.
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