11-27-23 Hour 1

NFL Draft Kings Kick Starter Week 12
Better position for 2024? Jets or Bills?
Kory in Greenwich says it's time to trade Josh Allen..

Episode Transcript

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WOFX when you go to DraftKings.I believe that everybody who uses the promo
code WOFX at DraftKings gets a freepair of Tommy Gods underwear. What it's
that that's not real happens. Idon't think that's a part of our offer.
No, maybe we should please pleasesupport our sponsors though. WOFX is

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promo code all right. Time forthe Kickstarter ten stories primarily from the world
of the NFL over the weekend thathave stepped up in my mind and I
felt the need to share them withyou and hopefully you will enjoy them as
well. Number ten. There's onegame to go and what has been a
very spread out NFL week of coursewe had we had three games on Turkey
Day, we had a Black Fridaygame, with a bunch of Sunday games,

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but now there can be only oneMonday Night football. Vikings host the
Bears. The Bears are fighting forEberflous's job, maybe maybe justin Field's ability
to be a starter in the NFL. Right now, Vikings currently sit in
sixth place in the NFC. Theyare fighting with Josh Dobbs, the the
what was he? The the NASAsomething or other. The pastronaut. The

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pastronaut, that's what it is.Sounds like a religious figure to me.
So there's a lot more of thisgame than you realize. I'm pretty excited
about it. Are you fired upfor Monday night football? I'm excited for
space, the whole idea of it, and the fact that there's a quarterback
that can take us into space.He can't really do like he didn't do
that. I think he was approvedbe an intern. I don't know he
actually did it, though. Ithink he's smart enough to be an astronaut.
What it shows you is that internscan do anything. Is our intern

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Kyla joins us in studios. Don'tdon't enough, don't don't feel pressured.
That was such an easy setup byLevank So go Josh Jobs. I have
a lot of thoughts. I don'tkiss anyone's butt. You will kiss anyone's
butt or Kyle's in here, justtrying to learn here, in here,
going, I think you're being here. Please take us to space with you,
all right? He knows how todo space stuff. I don't know.

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We'll find out all right. Numbernine just a quick recap from Turkey
day Packers Fans Now Love Jordan Loveafter twenty nine two win over the Lions.
All of a sudden, he's AaronRodgers two point zero. He's Brett
far three point zero. He isamazing. He will lead you to the
promised Land. Cowboys beat the Commandersforty five ten. They remain unbeaten in

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Dallas. They're five to zero inDallas forty nine ers pretty much unbeatable when
healthy. They proved that thirty onethirteen beat down of the Seahawks. Guys,
when I look at Thanksgiving, theonly game that really shocked me the
way it played out was Jordan Lovelooking like a straight up Pro Bowl quarterback.
Anything can stand out to you.Yeah, it's stunk. Okay,

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the games weren't good. It bumpedme out. I was all excited about
it. I had this whole ideathat, like, you know, what's
Seattle twelfth man, they can keepit close, that should be a good
game. Nope, Hey, divisionalmatchup. Washington's gonna be hungry against the
Cowboys because they got beat by theGiants. Nope, and even the Lions
and Backers. Even though it's agreat upset, it really wasn't as competitive

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as I had hope. That thoughtlines get in front of the comeback.
Let's be honest. The Thanksgiving Daynfl A games kind of stunk. They
did, and even the egg ballsstunk. The egg ball stunk. Packers
lines stunk. Am I the onlyperson that when I when I've wagered a
side here on the DraftKings kickstarter fromok WFX, Am I the only one
who doesn't care? I don't wantlike. I loved both the later games.

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I love Dallas, I love Sanafran I was on their side for
both of them. I didn't needI didn't need any any kind of suspense.
I liked. I liked counting money. I was in a rocking chair
just going, I'm gonna get somemoney out of this one. There's the
difference between entertainment and cash and checks. I enjoyed majertainments. Oh we trademarked
that. I like that. Try. I don't know how. Maybe aren't

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okay? All right? Number eightBlack Friday Game. I had two meetings
for Jets fans. You know.One of course, is a great dame
to shop deals and have some fun, get some cash out there and take
care of your Christmas shopping. Twogreat day to shop for a new team
because Tim Boyle on the Jets wereabout go ahead thirty four thirteen beat down
from the Dolphins, which gave theDolphins hold the first place the top seed

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in the AFC. Did you knowthat the reason the game was played at
three o'clock is because of an actsigned by the government in nineteen sixty one
that any college or high school gameplayed within seventy five miles of a professional
event cannot happen at the same time. No, I did not know that.
It's pretty cool. Huh what time? I just thought it was three
because it was now the fear peoplego shopping at like midnight and they'd wake

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up in time to watch the game. It's nineteen sixty one. An act
was signed, and that's why thegame was at three o'clock. I heard
a lot of people complained it aboutit. Why is it three? It's
a random time? Why not primetime on it? Yeah, so check
that out. Nineteen sixty one that'sthe reason that game was played. That's
the shock. You know this.That's my favorite storyline from that game,
because the Jets stink, interestink thatfoul Mary we talked about yesterday at Rivers

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Casino and Resort eleven to one.Shout out if you ever joined us there.
They stink, They're terrible, They'reawful, and that game overall was
sure Miami played well. Waddall's awesome. The New York Jets are embarrassing and
I feel bad for Jet fans whohad to deal with that. And by
the way, I'm dominating Cyber Mondaytoday. Black Friday is wonderful. The
damage I've done today on Cyber Monday, I want. It's not even done

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and I want Cyber Monday. Youknow what's funny about Cyber Monday. For
me, I'm just shopping for myself. What I'm just like, I don't
buy presents for a lot of people, so like and the people I buy
them for I pretty much already haveit done. So I'm just like out
there going, you know what,I like me, I'm gonna buy me
some things. Faith, are youactually witting Cyber Monday. I think I'm
not losing. I can tell youthat forty percent off a lot of stuff

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I like, but I wanted Imight buy your Chrismas present today, eh,
I like that. I like thatnumber seven. I just kind of
everything I didn't already put on thelist somewhere I threw together in a little
bit of a quick hitter. Soif you if you want to jump in
on anything, guys, just justdo it. One thing I learned,
the Falcons are way better when theyactually use b jon Robinson. I thought
that was a pretty interesting thing forthem. I agree. Thanks Art Smith,

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thanks for listening to everybody. Yes, yeah, and the rumors at
the top off the front office hadto come down and tell him to do
it. I mean that's that youshould be fired. I'm sorry. As
much as I like him, Hey, how about you use your best,
most dynamic player a lot? Ohdidn't consider that. That's a good idea.
Here's the other one, Minshew greaterthan Mayfield. I'm sorry, man

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Gardner, Minshew just Baker. Mayfieldhad his moments, but the Gardener greater
than the Baker. I would disagreeabout that. I would say that who
won. I would say the Coltsdid win that game. Tampa had an
opportunity to win. Jonathan Taylor's farmore dynamic in the back. I know
White had one hundred yards. Thankyou for the tye in fantasy versus reality
White, Okay, but Indianapolis,I will say that they are a better

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team than Tampa. Tampa had theirchances, so no, I would not
say Gardner Minshew is greater than BakerMayfield. Final thing I want to point
out is I'm pretty sure the Steelersare going to the playoffs. They can
beat bad teams. I don't thinkthat that good. I would actually like
to crown them the future one anddone in the postseason for the AFC.
But the Steelers look pretty good.Rams look phenomenal. I don't know if
they can do enough to get in. But Steelers good enough to beat the

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bad teams, but gonna be adoormat when to get to the postseason.
I would like to meet Steve theSteeler fan. And I say that because
now I should come to flock youon Wednesday. He usually comes, Oh
does he? Yeah? Yep?Because I was starting to think it was
you, because he set that upso perfectly about my Buccaneers not being good
in the Steelers being good. ThatSteve tweeted me and said Steelers seven and

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four Bucks four and seven, yingand the Yang and then set a picture
of Homer Simpson with the Steeler hatsleeping rubbing in on my face that his
team's better. I thought, howyou did that made me believe that's your
burner account. But he's a realperson. No, And plus you know
me, I don't have like peopleexcuse me of burner accounts in the past.
I'm too lazy to run my ownaccounts, Like why would I make
another one? And all of asudden, I'm gonna pretend I'm interesting on

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multiple places. No thanks, I'mgood. I'll I'll just keep talking smack
on the microphone if it's okay witheverybody. Number six look at it now.
The Broncos are cooking. Man Denverstarted the season one to five,
but with yesterday's twenty nine to twelveknockout win over the Brown where they actually
literally knocked out dtr the Broncos arenow won five straight games, are in
the hunt for the playoffs. Howreal are the Broncos, Mister Goslowski?

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Very real? What changed? Ineed to fit? Did it really change?
Because the guys who didn't want tobe there, Randy Gregory and the
other prompt in the locker room.They said, get out, right Clark,
if Frank Clark, get out Itseems like that is the pinpointed moment
of the season. Where they saidwe're changing everything, and it kind of
looks to be the truth. Nowat this point, Denver was the better

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team from the start of that gameto the end. I'm upset with myself,
very upset because I sniffed that out. That line stunk. I should
have known better. Denver was better. And it's about a few changes.
If you say it's cliche stuff aboutbuying in and being a locker room guy,
Denver seems to be a cliche team. And how funny that is with
mister cliche himself Russell Wilson as thequarterback. Well, we know Champaign can

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coach, yes, you know,and we all kind of forgot that,
I think in the fun of mockinghim and Russell Wilson, but I would
almost say, you know, therewas like that prison yard moment where it's,
you know, you look at twoof the biggest names of the team,
Frank Clark Randy Gregory, Hey,you don't want to be here,
get out, You're out. Wedon't care, and then everybody else looks
around each other and goes, oh, oh, oh, nobody's safe.

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Okay, cool, you mean theyliterally told Wilson to lose weight, you
know, a lot people tell methat I just leave. He stick around
fun. Here we go Number five. The CJ. Stroud Show continues to
be one of the most entertaining spectaclesin the NFL. But Trevor Lawrence and
Josh Allen, not that Josh Allen, the other one showed out and just

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led the Jags to a hard foughttwenty four to twenty one win over the
Texans in Houston, which at thispoint in time in this story moves the
Jags over the Dolphins as the topseed in the AFC. The Jaguars are
a complete team offense, defense,skill guys. Quarterback Trevor Lawrence has played

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two really good games. I've toldyou from day one, LEVC. He's
got it. Trevor Lawrence, There'sno reason to ever get it. In
day two he told me he didn'thave it. Day three, said he
had it again. Day four notalways done. Day five, You're like,
I'm on the fence. He's reallygood. God's waffle House has gotta
be one of the shirts we makewith our friends over at elevation to There
is nothing, no athlete, nocoach, no team that I've ever waffled

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on more than Trevor Lawrence. Itold you Trevor Lawrence was the greatest prospect
in the quarterback position ever ever,and then sixteen games, twenty games in
his crisis. He's the greatest bustin the history of the NFL. And
like I've said again, he's agreat quarterback and should be in the MVP
discussion. I do want to goback quick. I know this is against
the rules of the Kickstarter. Howabout can we just address that Russell Wilson

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was told to lose weight when he'smarried to a pop star named Sierra,
and then the guy who told himto lose weight was played by Kevin James
in a movie that does seem wrongout loud. I don't I'm missing the
point? Are you telling me ifI date a popstar? Are I can
I'll lose weight? I don't knowif you did a pop star. I
think if Kevin James plays me ina movie, I can tell other people

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lose weight. What's what's my takeawayhere? I'm saying that if I'm married
to a pop star, I thinkI'm doing pretty good for myself, and
the person who's offering me health advicewas played by Kevin James. I think
I've ignored him for two different reasons. I think we all know that that
was a typical casting. I'll gowith okay, I don't think it was
great casting. But I've also seenKevin James play like a Nazi in movies

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now, so he's out there,he's stretching his legs, shall we say,
his wings. The Jaguars are reallygood and they I believe they're gonna
finish this season. It's the topteam in the AFC win total wise,
not winning the AFC, like somebodyelse said on this show, but finishing
this number one seat head into theplayoffs. Okay, I do wanna.
I do want to point out thatat this point on Sunday, we started
the day the Dolphins were the topseed. At this point of the day,

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the Jags are the top seed.Okay. The Chiefs had the Living
Dodo scared out of them early againstthe Raiders, but we're able to turn
it around, turned on the Jetsand win thirty one seventeen. I love
our boy Kevin Harlan. I lovehim. He's one of my favorite broadcasters
there is. But he did atextbook jinx of Daniel Carlson. The Raiders

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kicker. Oh well, this distants he's forty five and one now,
because you had to say something whilehe was kicking, that would have been
seventeen nothing. I feel like itwould have been all good. But that's
not what happened. And with thiswin, the Chiefs take over the number
one seed of the AFC from theJags at this point in Sunday, So

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again we started with the Dolphins,we went to the Jags. Now the
Chiefs are the number one seed ofthe AFC after the four o'clock games.
I'm okay, I'm very confused byall that. I think I mean to
get more confused. The Chiefs.Are they the Warriors? Are they the
team? Are they Alabama Football?Look, they haven't won as many championships
as the Warriors or Alabama Football.But I watched them play and I just

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think, out loud, boy,you now, Mahome's is struggling. Maybe
they're not that good. Maybe they'regonna blow this game. And I did
the same thing with the Warriors becauseit was like the easy thing to do.
Maybe this is the most human naturething as a sports fan, like
find reasons why dynasties aren't good,but they continue to win. Alabama football
lost one game and people are sayingthey're not winning by more than enough.

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The Chiefs have entered that category ofeven though they won that game, I'm
sitting here on Monday thinking, youknow, I didn't. I wasn't really
that impressed. I was more waymore impressed by your Raiders. Yeah,
me as well. I mean,Max Crosby's a beast. He's he didn't
practice all week as a knee issue. They literally had to burn a time
out to pull him out of thegame because he wouldn't come out. Now,
part of me is like, well, that timeout could have been useful,

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but no, it wouldn't have been. That's awesome. I love having
a guy on the squad like thecondor. Max Crosby, he's the man.
That scene where he's coming off thefield, it's a little Moses sle
like there was a parting of thesideline of get Away, get Away,
get Away. Here comes the helmet. Look out, Harry Cobbs. He
about lose his mind. And youknow, you look at the rest of
that what that defensive line and whatit was supposed to be. To your

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Chandler Jones in the news again sayhe's been arrested multiple times. All these
crazy things he's got going on,He's not there to rush from the other
side. Tyre Wilson, the seventhoverall pick of the draft. I watched
him run up to offensive linemen andstop like I'm here, like no good
pushing mass blocking me. Yeah,do what do I do? Now?

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You watch Crosby, That's what youdo. Do what he does. On
a number three of the Kickstarter,Ravens exposed those expose those frauds or whatever
the English translation would be. Yetagain twenty ten they went over the Chargers
and within this win, the Rangersbecome the top the Ravens become the top
seed. Ravens top seed. Iruined everything. Raven's top seed at this

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point in the AFC. The fourthlead change in the seeding of the AFC
all on Sunday. In my mind, NBC screwed this all up. They're
graphics. They're confusing me during theday, just like you were confused.
I'm sure before the end of theshow, I'm gonna screw this up.
I might say the Jags are thenumber one seed, Ravens or the Chiefs
or the Ravens are the Raves arenow Okay, I can't promise you.

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I'm gonna remember that by the endof the show. But it was very
confusing. As for the Raven game, let's give some love to our pals,
Zach Boyton if you haven't come outto a show. Zach is one
of the members of our promo.We call him Mini Gods. He's like
Gazz's illegitimate child. We just don'tnever approve it. Yet You're about calling
him Junior from now on. Heprobably should. I mean, I don't
think anybody would. I think peoplewould be like, Wow, you have

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a son that old. I can'tthat's weird. We do have two Zachs,
so Zach, but I may startcalling you Junior. So Junior.
Uh texted you and I as theRavens who are running out the clock against
the charge, said, hey,I cashed out. There's no way they're
gonna score here. What it createa flat parlay going when a chance went
over to two hundred bucks and offgoes Za Flowers And you can imagine so
many times we've seen it. OhFlowers got the first down, He's gonna

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go down. They're gonna win thegame. Take a few knees there goes
that rookie from Boston College right tothe end zone. Good for you,
Za Flowers, and sorry Zach thatyou decided to cash out. I say,
flowers his celebration. He does thesoccer celebration on that one where Obj
pretends to be the goalie and hekicks it through. Earlier he did the

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flowers, the bouquet and everything.Stop it, just stop it. Your
celebration suck. They're terrible. Ihate they're terrible. You're way too good
a receiver to be doing that.I don't mind the flowers thing, like
do the flowers because you're flowers,but the soccer and all that. You
just stop it. Just stop rookielevel celebrations. Yeah, I step up
next year. Kid, I've neverbeen this guy. Act like you've been

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there before. Unless you come upwith a cool thing to do one or
the other, it's fine with me. A number two Bills lose a heartbreaker
to the Eagles thirty seven thirty fourin Philly. The weather sucked and there
were a million times that the ballcould have bounced in the favor of the
Bills and did not. But I'mmore I'm more confident in them. Actually,
after that loss, I feel likethey can play with anyone. They

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They went toe to toe with thatEagles team all game long, and a
couple things bounce their way instead ofthe other way. They probably win that
thing, and then it's a wholenother story today. Can they play with
anybody in the NFL? Absolutely?Now. The point is is they have
to win these games, improve theirrecord, get better. I feel for
you, Buffalo fan, that wasyour game to win. You were the

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better team on the field in Philadelphiafor a majority of that game. But
at the end, Jalen Hurts madesome place, even Kelsey's jumping off sides
and clutch moments, but they're stillable to overcome that Smith and Brown and
swept such a stacked team. Billsfan, I thought, probably six fifteen
yesterday that we're gonna open up thephone lines, the elevation ten thousand phone
lines and talk about what that winmeans and how the playoffs are right there.

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And then I thought, after theloss, that's probably not gonna happen
because I've seen some of the wordsyou've been using, and those are not
allowed to be said on the radio. So sorry, I feel for you,
Bills fans. Those are heartbreaking lossesthis season, you've suffered. Finally,
Tommy DeVito is winning the hearts andminds of Big Blue fans everyone where.
I hope his parents are ready forall the overnight guests. He's about

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to have mom fire up some ChickenCollins and call an uber for Veronica.
Please. Two and zero is theGiants starting quarterback at ten and seven wins
over the Pats. It's DeVito time. Was he Peyton Manning? No?
Was he Patrick Mahomes? No?Is he winning football games? Yes?

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Come on, tave Toby, there'sgood for you man. There's no way.
There's no way he's not sneaking womeninto the house. Now, there's
no way you know he is.Mama DeVito's up there going not kiddings.
Call your priest mom, missus Carmela. We met after the game. Can

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and they look at their identical phones, but this one, I don't know
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said, I need X amount ofnew phone numbers and new phones. So
that's how I got this. Soso, like I'm assuming very recently this
individual stopped paying their bill and theprovider went, we need a phone number,

(25:52):
Let's give it to this guy.And all of a sudden, all
these other people are still like,yo, what's up? How you been
when we getting together? And I'mlike, who the hell? And what
do you do with techies? Becauseare the only people who know I have
this phone number? Right now?Can we talk to your boss at techies
and just maybe three or four,just clear with the bosses. Can I
get a few new phone who diss? Please? Like, I think we

(26:15):
need to do it for you?New phone who diss? I can get
away with it. The problem islike I just don't I don't know,
like I don't know how cash appworks. I'm very tempted to use the
number to try to get into cashapp and just kind of see what I
believe it's her, what her accountlooks like, because you know, maybe
maybe you know, maybe I couldthe season of Giving, maybe I throw

(26:38):
her fifty bucks. Oh, i'sgot to get her out of the hole
over you on cash app, youknow, or not just mock her.
I mean that's probably more likely whatI would do. I'm not a very
nice person. Uh, I'm theanti Santa. So yeah, it's just
the weirdest thing. And my phone'sgoing crazy all of a sudden, and
it's cash App, and it's thisperson who wants to know why I haven't
shown up on whatever this video gameis in days and why am I not

(27:00):
calling them back? And I'm justlike, because I'm not who you think
I am that and I don't answeranything directly because now I'm having fun with
it. So it's just, youknow, it's one of those things I
just to all I share it likeif you ever got a number in it.
Right away, it was like youstart getting calls from the other people
who had the number before you.One day, we're going to call them
on the air. Just patch somebodythrough, give me the number. Hey,

(27:21):
this is bleeb Yeah, track themdown. I would love I would
love to do that. I'd loveto meet her. I think she's she's
got a lot going for based onher inability to pay twenty nine dollars bills
on her cash out. Oh sorry, speaking of inability, Jeffs can't win
Giants all of a sudden, can'tlose. Who's Who's better set for next

(27:44):
year? If you're a Giants fan, as much you're enjoying the Tommy DeVito
experience, you're hating this a littlebit right. Better set for next year
is the New York Jets because AaronRodgers expected to come back, the staff
is expected to be in place.This team was built to being a playoff
team in twenty twenty three. Nowsome things might have been exposed of how

(28:04):
all in they were when it cameto play in this hand. And I
think more and more about poker everysingle day. I think about the Jets,
where it's like you knew the handsyou were playing. Everyone knew the
hand you were playing. All ofa sudden something went wrong on the turn
or the flop, and you're done. All of a sudden. That pile
of chips you thought you had,they got one just sitting there like you.
That was Zach Wilson. You wantto call something here for the Giants.

(28:26):
I get confused by the Giants stillall year long. That's been the
word I've been using, confused bythe New York Giants because they went out
and beat New England. Everything aboutthis game told me that New England should
have destroyed the New York Giants,even though the Patriots have struggled. Belichick
dominates against quarterbacks who are rookies.Belichick, this is an opportunity where doesn't

(28:51):
want to lose you. And Ithought about that first half in particular,
and thought, if New England isdoing wacky and weird things, maybe New
England doesn't want to win this game. Flat out not that good the Patriots,
all the moves they made about Belichickthinking again, draft fourth or fifth
round, projected picks in the firstround. Winn with any quarterback doesn't exist
anymore. Now the Giants come outtoday, la back. I don't know

(29:12):
if you've seen this because this I'veseen this, because it's happened like the
last two to three hours that allof a sudden there's statements out that when
he's healthy, Daniel Jones is ourquarterback in twenty twenty four, we're doing
this today, Well, is itjust to squash the New York media from
starting a quarterback controversy? Because youwould think today would be celebrating a victory,
celebrating to Veto and celebrating the mathematicalequations that the Giants are still in

(29:37):
the playoff hunt, not saying,oh, no, no, Daniel Jones
is a quarterback. Oh the Patriotsare like, let's give a little bit
of love to the Giants because theydid win, and they look like garbage
about what a month ago. See. And that's the thing, as I
look at tagathon dot com, whois nice enough to already do the work
on this stuff. So before thede Veto experience, you woul had a

(30:00):
top three pick, you would havebeen looking at, uh maybe maybe some
Drake may in your life. Rightnow you're sitting at six. You know
you could go uh late tou latEdge Rusher from UCLA like you could you
could go maybe Jayden Daniels. There'sall these other people there, but like
you wanted Caleb Williams, you wantedDrake May. Where's the line of these

(30:22):
rookie quarterbacks where there? It's betterto stick with Dane Jones and grab a
better player somewhere else in the field. That is what the New York Giants
have to decide. And look,they've had this happen. How it's laying
out right now? Doesn't it feellike the year with Daniel Jones, Like
the whole thing of how it's layingout, Like the Giants didn't have the
number one pick in that NFL draft, but we knew in that year's draft

(30:45):
class the late Dwayne Haskins was involved, Daniel Jones was involved, like Kyler
Murray was involved. Like those arethe three picks, and the Daniel Jones
won really was kind of like wayoff, like some people had Daniel Jones
in that year. Is the fifthor sixth quarterback, not the second,
fifth or sixth. But the Giantsare gonna have an opportunity to draft somebody
in that spot, even if it'snot the quarterback that they wanted, and

(31:07):
it was not the number one pick. It feels like that again in twenty
twenty four's NFL Draft, because nowthey're winning. Now, are they gonna
have the same impact that the Jetshad When the Jets got the number two
overall pick and they could have hadTrevor Lawrence, but they end up with
Zach Wilson. They won, Yeah, and then they lost hold on though
with the with the Daniel Jones thing. Every report I've heard in hindsight,

(31:29):
they wanted to trade back. Theyknew they wanted Daniel Jones. They wanted
to trade back three four spots andget him. They knew he wouldn't be
there on their second first round pick. When you hear that, doesn't it
kind of like? I know ithasn't worked out right, But for me,
like, I don't want my frontoffice picking based on what you know,
mel Kiper, Todd mcshaye, DavidHellman, the Tankathon whoever says I

(31:52):
should be picking that spot. Iwant them to get the people that make
sense to them. If they wereable to trade back, he would have
been the ninth pick, tenth pick. Is it a little better? I,
like you said, I just Ilook at how it worked out last
year. This year obviously a totalcatastrophe. But if if they traded back

(32:14):
and ground, then you probably thinktheir geniuses do. I think that the
Giants, if they had a playerin mind they wanted to get, took
him at that spot. That makessense. Yes, Now this is gonna
sound only have saying two different things. If that's the guy you want,
do not trick get the guy youwant. That's the answer. Dave get
Himan wants Daniel Jones. I don'tthink he's a great quarterback. That's your
guy, Go get your guy.So that's a yes. However, maybe

(32:35):
the truth will never come. Maybewe'll never find out. And I know
exactly what you're talking about. Therewas talks that if they don't take him
at that spot, he may notbe available on that spot. Okay,
so who was it gonna be?That's what I was wondering back, thinking,
like, so Washington was gonna goget Daniel Jones. Who was this
magical team that was gonna jump upand get Daniel Jones. They believe that
the Giants that if they didn't getDaniel Jones that spot, someone could have
taken him, and maybe it wasWashington. I don't have that evidence.

(32:58):
I think they got fooled. Ithink they bought in too much and thought
someone's gonna take the Angels. Thepoint is now is that your question was
twenty twenty four, who's in abetter spot now? The Jets are the
Giants after the results of this weekend. I will still say the Jets.
I will still say the Jets becausethis roster is not gonna change too much.
But giant fan, I feel likeI'm always gonna have this take encouraged

(33:21):
more than discouraged when your team iswinning. When we go back to that
Trevor Lawrence here, when everybody wastanking for Trevor Lawrence, it was a
weird time in the history of sportsbecause people who love their teams would root
against their teams, and that becameyou got Tankeathon right there. Tankathon became
popular because of that year with TrevorLawrence. That people went out of their
way hoping jetfan, you know whoyou are, Jet fan wanted the Jets

(33:45):
to lose every single week to goget Trevor Lawrence. I don't like that.
I don't find that as an entertainingway to be a sports fan is
rooting against your favorite team. Itgoes against the whole premise of it.
So wins are good. It feelsdirty. It feels dirty when you do
it. But when you get theplayer you wanted, which again, remember
I'm a Raiders fan. They neverdraft the player I want. Like It's
happened maybe three times in my lifewhere I'm like, I want, please

(34:08):
get Charles Woodson, Please please getKhalil Mack, please get like I've had
a few of them. Oh AlexLeatherwood, No, I wasn't. That
never happened. I never said that. I never wanted him. Darius Award
Bay hens a Stone Bay. Imean, it's not like there was Ceedee
Lamb on the board when that happened. But it's yeah, there is something
about like it's a it's a ConstellationPrize is what it is. It's like,

(34:30):
yeah, I'm not gonna get whatI really want, which is a
super Bowl. But at least Iknow I'm gonna get a new favorite player.
And if you believe in Tagathon,next year the Raiders will have J
C. Latham offensive lineman from Alabama. Now this does that make you feel?
No, I still don't feel that. Doesn't know they got you guys
picking up Jayden Daniels over there inTampa you played really well over the weekend.

(34:50):
I've got some interesting I gotta sitdown. I really have to sit
down about Jayden Daniels. All Right, New York players based on Tagathon,
right now, would you rather wingames and maybe get this player? Would
rather lose more games and get abetter player? So right now Tagaton has
the Giants picking six Leauto Lato,the edge rusher for UCLA really nice player.

(35:13):
That does not change the most importantspot for the Giants. So I
would say continue to win. Okay. Number eight the Jets Rock Bowers,
tight end Georgia, nicest guy inthe draft. Can you stay you know
what, lose more? Because BrockBowers is a great fit for the Jets.
That would be a fantastic pick forthe Jets. I love that play,
So maybe you get him at sixor five. I really like that

(35:35):
a lot. Sixteen the Bills romeO'donze, the wide receiver from Washington.
I don't know if I say that. One's a little harder for me.
I get why they take a widereceiver because you believe Stefon Diggson's tenure might
be over for Buffalo. Buffalo wantsto win more. Wide receivers have been
a really deep position in the draftthe last few years. So I would
say continue to win it for theBills. I mean in the fact that

(35:58):
I think to steal the draft isis gonna be Keon Colan and they got
him going fifteen to the Bengals.Like how many receivers can the Bengals have
becomes a question for a U Aubneyfans just you know, I know he's
a Florida state. Now with JaredVerst, they have him going fourteenth to
the Rams, which would be kindof cool to see him go that early,
but that's that's where they have theNew York teams right now. I

(36:19):
think every one of those I'd ratherwin and get a slightly worst pick out
of curiosity. Arizona would have thefirst pick in this scenario. No,
the Bears would have it with thePanthers pick and he has they have them
taking Caleb Williams. And then withthe fourth pick, which wuld be the
Bears pick Fashanu, the offensive tacklefrom state Penn State. Yeah, so

(36:40):
no where Arizona had the second pick, and they have sentenced Marvin Harrison Junior
to four to five years in thedesert in the tegaphone Drake may going third
to the Pats. I want tocome on here this week and next week,
and I want the Giants to winagain. And I want to go
deep in a wild mathematical playoff scenarios. I want to figure out how in

(37:04):
the world the Giants can pull thisoff? Will they know? But I
want to find some wild the roadbecause it's out there, it exists,
it's in the ether. I justwant a team that I root for in
some way, shape or form.To get kool Aid mckinskie. That's what
I want. If I could havecool like I know the Jets have sauce
and they got DJ whatever. IIf you go sauce in kool aid in
your secondary, how do you lose? I don't even know. I don't

(37:25):
think you can lose. I thinkyou win right away. You just win
every game, sell all those jerseysyou want, put kool Aid on the
back, let him do his thing. Haha, Clinton Dix, No,
no, no, that's not ascool as kool Aid coming in to the
NFL very very soon. Anybody elseyou want to know about real quick while
we're wile I'm sitting is Michael Pennocksand bon Nicks. Are they on that
list? Michael Pennix twenty first tothe Vikings. That's a really good pick.

(37:50):
That's great. That's the best ofboth worlds. It's good for both
guys. I don't see bone Nicksunless I'm looking past them. Bone Nicks
had a game against Org and stayedover the weekend. Wow. Yeah,
they still gott to go maybe secondround. Oh wait, here we go.
They do it. They go deeper. Wow, they go deep.
They got the Raiders picking up JJMcCarthy from Michigan. That wouldn't I wouldn't

(38:12):
hurt my feelings too much about Nicksforty fifth pick the Rams. Okay,
that'd be good for him. Uh. You know, we're talking a lot
about the Giants, the Jets,their future and everything else. Are we
giving Belichick a pass here like wecould have? I don't know where he's
gonna be. There we go,Like I was gonna say, like,
he's not gonna be in the He'snot gonna be New England. They're gonna
they're gonna give him the respect ofletting him fish out the season. But
I'm I'm leaning Washington. I justfor some reason, there's something about that

(38:36):
feels very I know, it's anew regime, feels very Washington DC football.
To have Belichick come in and takeover. I would agree with you.
It's either Washington or the Chargers.The Chargers seem like they want to
make a bigger splash, and theChargers seem closer to being more competitive,
and the quarterback's already set in La. You know what, I'm I just
talked myself into it. I likethe Chargers more so I will take the

(38:59):
Chargers. But I have to askthis question. He's Bill Belichick, multiple
Super Bowls, arguably the greatest coachin the history of the NFL. Is
there anything that could happen between thatloss to the Giants on Sunday until the
season concludes in January, or theChargers or the Commanders or any other team
that's potentially in this bidding war forBelichick sees something and says, you know

(39:20):
what, Nah, I'm good.Like, could he actually blow the opportunity
to go to another team because ofhow bad the Patriots could finish this season?
I don't think so. I thinkhe is. I think the book's
written on him. Like if youif you don't believe in him without Brady.
You think you just don't believe inhim, but everybody else is gonna
take him. Like I mean,for me, it's just a matter of
it's almost storyline, right, likewe know that Mark Davis loves Belichick and

(39:46):
that whole thing. Well, youknow, the Patriot Wight doesn't work in
Vegas though. It would be verycomical. And I don't want this from
me, But if you hate me, this would be the funniest thing in
the world for you is if Belichickcomes in with McDaniels, this is offensive
court the raid. That would belike, if you hate me, that's
that's what you put like dear Santa. But like like Washington makes sense to

(40:07):
me, Chargers make sense on alot of levels. Tampa Bay's being thrown
around now has the chance for himto go down there and prove he can
do the exact same thing Brady did. If you want Belichick, go and
get him. I don't believe thestock is as high as it's been in
the past, and rightfully so,because he's showing off what his coaching career

(40:28):
has been pre and post Brady.Now, I would love for New England
to get the second or third overallpick and then all of a sudden,
Belichick's on the clock and everyone knowshe's gonna take a quarterback and they say
Spencer Rattler South Carolina. Everyone's like, what does Belichick do? He was
a great prospect, Like Belichick blowsit. Whatever. There's going on there
though, Like if you really payattention to what's been going on in New

(40:51):
England, there's a lot of spiketrades that happened, like there was no
you have to keep Brady. Youcan't do this. Fine, I'll trade
I'll trade Garoppolo. Okay, fine, track but we're not that bad.
Okay, I'll trade Bessett too.Wait, what are you doing? Like
I think he's every time he's beentold you can't do what you want to
do, he's gone nuclear. AndI think he's really done it this year,

(41:12):
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(46:49):
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(47:13):
what's up? Corey? Hi?Guys, Hi, what do you
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it is. I like it.I didn't recognize Hill the Victors in your
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(47:38):
Ready for this, Okay, theBuffalo Bills won't make the playoffs, The
Buffalo Bills will clean house, andDay will want to be with Josh Allen,
so the Giants will trade for JoshAllen. Hang on, wait a
second, sorry, Budy they're notgiving up Josh Allen. They're not.
I mean, he's he's a friendfranchise quarterback. There's not He's what the

(48:01):
third best quarterback in the league rightnow? Yeah? Yeah, I appreciate
your dreams. You have your versionof Josh Allen. If you're a Giants
fan, you like you ordered JoshAllen on Wish and you got Daniel Jones,
like, that's it happened. I'msorry. That's where you live now,
Corey. It is Cyber Monday today. It is officially the holiday season.

(48:22):
We're getting ready for Christmas. Andif someone has never listened to Lavak
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heard, right there is a classicCorey and greenwitch call. Because Corey loves
sports, he gives takes. ButCorey will confess that he will just make

(48:42):
up trades. That again, Corey, two people have to agree to that
trade. Why would Buffalo ever agreeto that? Ever? A handful of
first round pick? All right,goodbye, Corey. You just you gave
Corey the equivalent of the the speechand was it, Billy Madison, he

(49:04):
just did didn't do that. Hedid. That was a dumb call.
Though, listen, he's he's gettinga little better because at least he had
an idea for the other side ofit. So a typical Corey from Greenwich
trade call would have been like backin like Aaron Rodgers Prime. So the
Jets take Aaron Rodgers and send overCarl Lawson. And it's like, you

(49:29):
know that you can't just like pullup in a van and abduct a player,
like you have to get them toagree, like this isn't Madden with
the trades, uh, monitor off, you know, but no, He's
like like, all right, let'slet's put it like this. Let's try
to letna try to rationalize it.Right, So let's say he's right.
Bill's just they're so frustrated. TheBegoula family, they just they we're starting

(49:52):
over, We're bringing in Belichick,we're starting over, we're starting fresh,
We're bringing it in everybody. Ifthe Giants had the number one overall pick
and the Bills could use that topick the quarterback of their choice, and
Dable did really want Josh Outen,obviously it's not just number one pick but
if you have one of the strongestdraft years or quarterbacks, could you put

(50:15):
a package together that if they werestarting over, you could get Josh Outen.
I would still say no. Okay, I would still say no because
the Giants. I mean, you'reright, I just wanted to make it.
I just tried to Corey guy.So here's what I thought about Corey
with you. Here's what happened todaywith you, Corey, is that Bills
fans did that to you, eventhough you wanted to talk about the Giants
and the Bills. The Bills fansdid that to you because I look,

(50:37):
I'll say his name, because youand I started the conversation with them.
Here you're in the Capitol region.Sal Capaccio, who covers the Bills out
in western New York, he hada situation today he was dealing with with
Bills and Bills fans and callers likeCorey, and we appreciate Corey, but
like Bills fans today wanted von Millerto become the defensive coordinator and player so

(50:57):
they got the true value out ofvon Miller. That was a call he
dealt with today. He also thought, if Sean mcdermot's so bad why don't
they just hire Frank right right now, Like, let's just do it.
He you know he's from the Bills. Corey thought I got it, and
no, you think that's it?Huh. Trade Josh Allen, all right,
what about this? Let me letme. I'm trying. I'm trying

(51:19):
to work my my cory brain.Okay, what about this? Giants are
so fed up with the way thingsare going. You're winning with Tommy DeVito.
You wouldn't now all of a sudden, I going to a year with
Daniel Jones and Tommy Devino as myquarterback room. They kicked Dable, Buffalo
hires Dable to be the new headcoach. I actually thought that's where that
call was gonna go. When hestarted setting that up for Dable, I'm

(51:40):
like, okay, like that makessense. And I thought when he said
the word trade him like he's gonnatrade Buffalo to go get Dabele and they're
gonna give the Giants a pick,and the Giants are gonna say, you
know what, We're gonna find somebodyelse. I mean, Belichick would be
the fun answer there, but they'regonna go do something else, even though
he's the coach of the year twoyears ago. So that's where I'd struggle
with that. So even though NewYork teams want to shake up, even

(52:02):
though Buffalo wants McDermott out, ithas never been under more heat in the
tenure of his head coaching career thanhe is now, even though the Jet
fans watched Friday and they think Hackettstinks and Lizard and Cobb are getting to
blame it. Even though the Giantsde Vito's winning, but people want to
remind us that he's not that good. It's a weird time in New York

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sports, even when teams are atleast the Giants are winning. Changes wanted,
changes wanted, even by Corey inGreenwich. You've followed Tommy DeVito's career.
He was in Syracuse, then hewent to Illinois. Is their potential?
Could you groom him? Is hesomebody who could be the quarterback?
No? Backup? No? Uh? He he could make a career as

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a second or third stringer in theNFL and make a good living. Like
if he has a really he'd beatMike Lennon. Yeah. I think if
he has a really good December,and by really good at mean maybe the
Giants go five hundred in de Veto. I'm just throwing numbers out here.
Let's say he finishes the season thenext few remaining games with ten touchdowns and
three picks. He could become acareer backup. And that's pretty good.

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Like, that's a pretty good life. A lot of quarter will use Ryan
Nassib as an exam because there's alot of comparisons between Ryan Nasib and Tommy
Davido. Both went to Syracuse.Both probably just got picked by a New
York team because the scouts were inthe area. They never wanted them to
play. Tommy Devita was never inthe plans. Ryan Nassib was every every
plans. They even said that,they said on draft Day, we hope
he never plays. Yeah, soNasib never got a shot. He got

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a quick cup of coffee with theSaints and then was done. If you
never got a shot like this happensin college, this happens in high school.
This one makes football fun. Quarterbacksare super talented, but they gotta
get on the field. We justtalked about Tom Brady. He's got to
get on the field if you don'tgot a shot. And now we get
to make a career out of it, which is a cool part of the
NFL. When you get an opportunity, what do you do at the opportunity?
And Giant fan that rookie quarterback justwent out and beat the Patriots and

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Bill Belichick. He can hang hishat on that for the rest of his
life. So remaining on the Giantschedule, Packers at Saints, at Eagles,
Home for Rams, home for Eagles. He's been sacked fifteen times in
two games. I believe the byeweek he will get sacked at least three
times. Can he get sacked likeone hundred times between now at the end

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of the year, Yes, yeshe could. Poor guy, like,
can you imagine you're making forty fourk a game just to dress, just
to go out there. I'm aNew York Giant. Everybody, how you
doing, Ladies? Mom makes cutlets, It's gonna be great, come on
buy And then all of a sudden, they're like, here's your chance to
live your dream. You get sackednine times in a win Toast the Town.

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He sacked six times against what's leftof the New England Patriots defense.
Toast the Town. You're now gonnaplay the Eagles twice. This poor guy's
gonna get He's not gonna have aspleen by the time this is over.
So let's say like he's gonna getcrushed, but let's say he's good.
Like Let's say he leads him intothe playoffs somehow somewhat it happens. So

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can Tommy DeVito do anything anything?Honestly, And maybe this is the question
you kind of wanted my answer responseon this. If DeVito's the best quarterback
in the NFL in December, he'sstill is not better than Daniel Jones,
Like, he's still not in thefuture plans. Because we're watching at work
in San Francisco. That might bean apples and oranges to comparison. But
the point I'm trying to make isyou've got a super underpaid quarterback and you

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have cap flexibility to make the rosterbetter. If the Giants say we threw
a ton of money relatively speaking atDaniel Jones, not comparison to two hundred
million dollars quarterbacks, and we canhave more roster flexibility with a super underpaid
quarterback in Davido, isn't that thebest for our future because we had a
lot of pieces to fix. Thatdoes make sense. If everything like that

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happens, you need a lot togo in your favor. All of a
sudden, I just I kind offeel bad for the dude, Like he's
gonna he's literally gonna get the livingDodo beat out of him for the rest
of this year too. Hopefully cashin as a backup. Hopefully and again
thirty four k a game, helike they always like to break down like

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these big contracts, like for forevery past completed Lamar Jackson makes two million
dollars for every sack he gets likefive grand. Would you take five grand
to have an NFL edge rusher cleanup your ribs? Oh? Yeah,
you would. I've worked in radiomy entire adult life. You realize that
we're old now, right? YouYou might? You might? You might

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like turn into dust. Yeah I'mready. You're not ready. You think
you're ready. I can't let thathappen. You have kids. My kid's
older. I'm fine. I'm I'manny more than five grand, though,
I'm many enough to cover like themedical expenses at least, because you're going
to the hospital I met you ormy wife picking me up after my injury.
Oh yeah, you got it.Huh, Yeah, you were ready.

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