11-29-23 Hour 1

Aaron Rodgers is back to the practice field... how?!
Mark Cuban running for president?
Knicks update on Josh Hart and Albany Firewolves

Episode Transcript

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I'll be at the gym. Yeah, I know, I'm as shocked as

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you are. Gas station wherever itis. And someone will call to me
and you're like, you think Godsis gonna have to buy those drinks?
You think Aaron Rodgers is gonna play? It is the now. It has
become the number one uh Corey fromGreen which messages me on Facebook once a
day with an Aaron Rodgers update.Random people I've ever met before will come
up to me, and I'm talkinglike like old men, young women,

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like people I didn't even know listeningto the show. Two things, A
lot of the old guys, especiallyat nine eighty shaking, needs to be
a little clearer. I only getninety five nine in some spots. Has
anyone told you, yes, yes, thank you for listening. I'm not
insulting you. Trust me, wegot it. We're working on it.
I don't know if we got it. We're working on it. The third

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thing now, and that is nineeighty ninety five nine? And where is
it? Is it gonna be atrivers? Where part of rivers? Where
do I get my free drink from? Gods? Can I how many drinks?
Like? Is did an open inan open bar you people. I
don't even know if people know whatthe bet is for so at this point,
and it's not even really a betlike that was. That was one

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of my favorite parts of this.So if you guys don't know yet,
when Aaron Rodgers blew out his achillesgot celebrated, he loved it. He
was very excited. It's all right, that's I maybe I'm exactly right.
But then when Rogers started kind offloating out there that he might come back,
Gods went on a tirade. Justit's not gonna happen. No way,

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it's not medically possible. I'll gowith I believe you kept you kept
saying, I'll side with the science. Yeah, I think science is on
my side here the history of sports. No athlete ever in the history of
recording time has done this. Butyes, it felt like it was a
pretty safe play. Well, butit's not a bat because you made some
it was. It was kind oflike it was. It's still I still

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have trouble on hammering down the exactdetails. And I was part of the
conversation. But basically we're at Vanceleswhere we are every Sunday eleven to one
inside River's Casino and Resort, andguy said, I will buy everyone a
drink, or I'll open a tabor something. He said something to that
effect if Aaron Rodgers plays again thisseason. And Corey from Greenwich asked me

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the other day, he goes,what do we have to do if he
doesn't play? I'm like, well, because Godz doesn't know how bets work.
He just he gods literally just putsout punishments for himself. We we
can do whatever we want, Likewe could buy him a beer if we
feel like it. We could justdrink in front of him and laugh that
he was so close to having todo this. Like we could do nothing.

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We could, we could pretend thewhole thing never happened. But today
I gotta feel like between the lastone twenty four hours have to be kind
of a roller coaster for you guys, because yesterday on PMS, Aaron Rodgers,

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you know, made some statements thatfelt like he wanted to come back,
but he was definitely hedging towards it. It probably wasn't gonna happen because
he has to be a live forthe playoffs. This has to happen,
to be clear, by a bunchof people. And then today happens and
you look out on the Jets practicefield and lo and behold, there's number

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eight in a red jersey, andJets head coach Robert Salah said, quote
Rogers has been cleared for functional footballactivity. I don't know what that means,
but Adam Schefter has pointed out,seventy nine days ago, seventy nine
days ago, not even not eventhree months, Aaron Rodgers blew out his

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achilles on the field, on thefootball field, and he has been quote
cleared for functional football activity, whichI assume means stand out in the field,
throw some passes, you know,work out a little bit. Definitely
not getting hit, Definitely not runningwind sprints or suicides or all of that
stuff. But when you see quotefunctional football activity, that's happening today,

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and we're not even in December yet, this twenty one day practice windows open,
how are you feeling, buddy?I feel confident. I do.
I still feel confident. I feellike I should feel confident. You're gonna
have to buy drinks. No,No, I feel confident he's not gonna
take the field this season. Isaw the reports. I see all this
nonsense out of here, however,this has maybe a waiver. I've thought

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about this today. I'm driving aroundthe Capitol region today and here's the thing
I had to admit to myself.And it's something that's sports fans people.
You and I, members both ofthe media and sports fans, we all
have to admit this to ourselves.We don't like not knowing stuff. It's
maybe that's too much of a manthing, like guys don't like to admit
when they don't know something. Idon't know why. It's okay, it's
healthy. We don't know everything.There is one thing in sports we think

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we know yourself, I know everything, but we really don't. And it's
what's in a contract. So wehave an idea of this player is getting
paid X amount of dollars for Xamount of seasons. But especially in the
NFL, you'll have all these guystell us about the salary cap and then
you'll watch the Rams pull off atrade and be like, hey, what
about the cap? Well, no, no, no, they they bended

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a guy's third year into dead money, which actually, have you ever used
an abacus? No, you don'tunderstand. Obviously they could pull that trade
off. So we really don't getas much as people want to admit we
think we know the salary cap,we don't. And there's a second part
about this that's actually more interested.And this goes not even just in sports,
but in sales, in media andteachers, anybody who has a contract

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for a living, and get thoselittle details, and get those little things
that probably no one else will knowbesides your employer in you. And that's
what scares me today, because I'mstarting to piece this together, I think
a little bit. Okay, wegot a conspiracy coming, So walk me
through this year a little bit.Right. Remember how before the start of

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the season, there was this reportout there that Aaron Rodgers had given up
forty million dollars is the number Iheard? Someone said thirty someone, let's
do thirty to forty million dollars.Right, Rogers, out of the goodness
of his heart, was just gonnagive back. You know what, I'm
all in this season. I don'tneed thirty five million dollars. I'm just

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gonna say I don't want it anymore. Remember that report was out there this
summer. Yeah, yeah, no, he definitely reworked his contract to free
up a bunch of money for theJets. So that sounds outrageous to me,
but we all accepted it, likeokay, But I feel like,
if you're gonna give up thirty fivemillion dollars, there's gotta be something in
return, Like I'll do this ifI get this. We mean, if
we sign every person you ever wantedto play with, that might be part

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of it. But I'm starting towonder, and nobody knows this yet.
I'm starting to wonder if there's somewherein Aaron Rodgers's contract this little loophole that
says if Aaron Rodgers finishes the seasonas the quarterback for the New New York
Jets, he gets a million dollars. Or if Aaron Rodgers finishes the season
is the New York Jet quarterback,he gets a three million dollar incentive.

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Because hear me out here, here'swhat I think's gonna happen. I hate
this. I hate this so much. I have a feeling now that there
is a loophole in his contract becauselook, the injury itself does not make
sense. The guy blew out hisachilles, He's back in eighty days.
That doesn't make any sense. It'snever happened, no one's ever come back
in five months, not four months. The dude's coming back in three I
have a feeling, and I'm gonnahate this, that the loophole is Rogers.

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The Jets are gonna be winning onlike week eighteen. They're completely out
of contention. The whole season's over, and here comes Aaron Rodgers trotting back
on the field, fourth corner.Jets are up seven. He runs on
the field, he takes a knee, and then he takes another name,
Like, oh my god, Ican't believe it. He's better than Alex
Smith. Remember when Alex Smith brokehis leg? Who cares? Rogers is

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back in three months? Rogers finishesthe season. Is the Jet order back
against paid millions of dollars? Doyou have any any evidence at all that
this could be a contractual or monetarything? Not yet? Okay, not
yet, But I feel like thisis making sense to me. All right.
I like that you've got a conspiracytheory. I like that it's the

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completely wrong conspiracy theory. I'm writingthis down November twenty ninth. Okay,
you write it on your podcast.Favorite Guys at three ten believes there's a
contract loophole that Rogers is playing here. He doesn't. He's not motivated the
way you and I are. Thereason he gave that money back to the
Jets is he took the money inthe beginning to punish Green Bay. He

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knew he didn't need all of it. He knew that he could be the
highest paid guy without it. Butit was one of those things like,
oh, you're gonna draft Ordan Love. Oh you think you don't need me.
Oh okay, well guess what youdo? Give me fifty million a
year? Like he it's he heused his money as a weapon, like
he's I used money because I'm greedyand I want it. He uses it

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to leverage situations. He's more worriedabout a darkness retreat and all these other
things. Right, he's not.He's that guy's never gonna need money again.
He's all set. If if theloopholes in there, it would have
to get back the full like twentyfive thirty five million dollars. If you
want a conspiracy theory, here's theone that you here's the one you live

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with. Aaron Rodgers thinks he knowsmore about medicine, science, uh,
the human body, his body inparticular, than everyone else. So what
Aaron Rodgers did is when he gothurt. It was a minor, little

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tweak. It was like a Itwas a minute little tear, not even
not even close to all way,not even halfway through the achilles. And
he decided it was an achilles tear, it was a rupture or whatever.
When they fixed it, it wasjust a small little tweak. It was
something that was gonna heal on itsown. But by putting the space prisional
this other stuff, you sped upa minor injury healing. But it's because

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he hates science and scientists. Heplayed the role of the guy who blew
out his full achilles, and nowhe will be the one to get to
tell everyone they're wrong. You cancome back faster because he's done it from
a torn achilles, which on itssurface is a true statement, but reality
says it was never torn all theway through. Now, hang on,

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do you believe that theory? Haveyou begun to believe that theory is a
better way to phrase that. Idon't believe that theory, but I believe
it far more than two to threemillion dollars motivates Aaron Rodgers. That feels
like another bet right there, ButI don't want to do that because I'm
already in the whole potentially in thisone. And also you have to find
a way to find out either oneof those yes, and that might be
more problematic. I think one ofthose is more likely to find out.

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You know what, we could Wecould. I think we actually could find
the answer to those two, dependingon how good the report. It is
probably not coming from the four LetterNetworks Adam Schefter because Teron Rodgers don't like
each other, bizarrely, but whatever, If this is the case of the
Rogers injury was not that severe,I think we both owe Chris Cody an
apology. Excuse me, Chris CodyBilly Gill a apology because we play those

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dames aren't even close. They're onthe same show. They're both on the
Dan LeBatard Show. Remember Billy Gillwas the one when he played that of
he's not really hurt. Remember hewas the one and Sports Illustrated before they
decide to have robots, right,articles aggregated his story that he really wasn't
hurt. So maybe Billy Gill,we owe you an apology if that theory

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sticks. Because I don't necessarily thinkit. I do. I do believe
that there are people who have suchimmense willpower that they can overcome or surpass
things that none of us ever thinkthey could or we ever would. I
can't drive past Duncan in the morningwithout getting a coffee, like I don't

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have that willpower. But then you'vegot Aaron Rodgers, who again could have
anything he wants. He could dothe TV twelve method where he works out
with trainers, and he does this, he's a specific diet. No,
no, no, no, howam I gonna through the offseason. I'm
gonna take ayahuasca and poop and throwup for hours and then see God.
No, I'm gonna do a darknessretreat. I'm gonna lock myself in a
dark room like he's punishing himself forwhatever reason, to be to become more

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enlightened. That's why I can't.You can't look at him and go in
my opinion, you can't look athim and go listen, two three million
dollars on the table if you ifyou play towards the end of the year,
what's two three million dollars to aguy who quite literally smokes peyote?
You know what I mean? Likelike it's not Maybe I don't know,
maybe it's a lot of payote,but like he's good financially think I think,

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if anything, it's to prove he'sright. And I think he would
come back faster than he should,maybe get lucky, not not reaggravate it
in a game or two. Ialso think that he would lie and say
that he was more hurt than hewas. So the motivation, we won't
do a power ranking of motivation,but I don't want to even play with

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this world. But here we arehere on this Wednesday. The motivation,
I think we both agree for AaronRodgers is not to help out the New
York Jets win a football game,not for the Jets to get an evaluation
of what the wide receivers and runningbacks in the offense can look like with
Aaron Rodgers, although not one hundredpercent in the offense, we both agree
that the number one motivation for himto return in week seventeen. In Week
eighteen is to enhance his legacy asan all time great athlete and to stick

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it to science. And I'm notbeing sarcastic when I present that, Like
I actually think that's the answer.I actually agree with you that if I
had to rank why he would comeback week seventeen. That stuff, Oh
my god, I can't believe Rogerscame back before Peterson, Adrian Peterson and
all these Kobe that plus I'm smarteveryone else. I feel like that is
what is motivating him. I agreewith that, Like, I don't think

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it's the Jets anymore, but well, I think the Jets tie into that
motivation, right. You need youneed a team to save, and you
need a save said team to getcredit for being smarter than everybody else and
being and saving the team. Solike him, him going out rupturing the
Achilles or tearing it or whatever itwas in four plays in destroyed the entire

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narrative of him coming into New Yorkand bringing the Jets back to greatness for
the first time, you know,since since Super Bowl three. So now
rides in on a white horse,saves the day. Seventy nine days after
he tears the Achilles, he's outdoing functional football activity, you know,

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Christmas Eve comes, Jets are stillyou know, in the hunt, and
he just rides out and goes slingsit twenty five of twenty eight three hundred
and fifteen yards three touchdowns, nointerceptions, he'd be out. His Messiah
complex is filled and the Jets arebetter. It's a win win. I

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have to see it to believe it'sstill And I don't think I can hedge
my bed here, like I don'tget out of my bed. If I
did find that pull on the contract, you never said anything about that,
then I should have done a betterjob with my But you're looking for excuses.
I am, and it's fine.But like him saying saying, a
guy who's made what three hundred fourmillion dollars in his career is motivated to
come back early from a torn Achillesfrom one to three million dollars, that

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just that doesn't compete. Who lostthirty I mean I didn't lose it.
He knows where it went. Iwould have liked some of it back.
Yeah, but he but again,you don't. You don't give up that
kind of money unless you have thatkind of money. So again, what
why would I risk my future?Why would I risk limping on when I
start hosting Jeopardy in three to fiveyears for one to three million dollars?

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Like if I told you you knowyou were out with laryngitis, if you
came back a little early. Sure, we'll give you a five thousand dollars
bonus, but you may rooin,you may never speak right again. You're
not coming back for five grand.Five grand's a hell of a lot of
money. Nice, Well, I'dlove to have five grand. I'd come
back from one. Yeah, Butif it meant you might never get to
do it again, you might losethe your future earnings. You wouldn't do

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it. It would have to beenough to cover your future earnings. What
my voice sound like? Probably good? I have one other question here before
we could, I was gonna insultsomebody in the market about keep that joke
to myself. Uh no, no, no, no, no, don't
worry about that, all right,somebody with a bad voice. I know
this is coming off a question aboutthirty somebody I like y. Yeah,

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it doesn't matter just whoever you think, you don't know, that doesn't matter
whoever it is, It doesn't matterwhose name it is. I know it's
ironic. I'm coming off the thirtymillion, one million, three million dollar
conversations. But think about this jetfan, Think about this football fan.
Would you call what Aaron Rodgers hasdone since the moment he got hurt on
September eleventh to where we sit nowon November twenty ninth. Selfish or the

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most unselfish act? Because I wonderif this is a class example of like
what color glasses are you wearing?Green? Red? Because there's two ways
you can go completely oposate on this. I would say he's being selfish for
a lot of the reasons we laidout, because it's selfish motivation he's doing
rather than team motivation, and theidea that he could have just went to

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the ir like every athlete in everystore ever in history. More on park.
No, no, no, no. I could say he's unselfish.
I could say he's doing something no, but you're not going to It's the
same as like when somebody like ifI get asked to, like if I
make a donation and then they askcan we go public with the donation?

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You instantly assume that I made thedonation to get the attention, where you're
not realizing the company I made thedonation to the charity or whatever it is,
they're thrilled because now they can useit. Hey, Jeff made a
donation, why don't you make one? That's why they do it. You're
like, oh, look at you'retrying to get a pat in the back.
Now you're over here going, oh, Aaron Rodgers just keeps giving hope

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to the Jets fans that he mightreturn and actually play really well for them.
That's so selfish. It would beselfish, No would if he's how
many Jets fans the only reason they'veeven remotely enjoyed football this year is because
they keep thinking he might be back. Let me do I'm unselfish, By
the way, is the answer.If he comes back and practices with the
team and all that, So thatis one category. I don't want to

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know what she's doing. By theway, he's that practice, which he
is. Maybe I would have beenbetter with a dating comparison. Those aren't
usually my strength. But like Iguess if one girl had broken up with
you and was saying, hey,I might get back with you, I
might do it seriously and then yeah, right, Like I think if we
did a dating analogy like that,you would be thinking that girl's very selfish

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because she wants the attention. LikeI is that a better comparison about this?
Okay, same same guy. Bothanswers are true, but different places,
different times Green Bay packer Aaron Rodgerswas selfish. He was so ticked
off at the packers that he tookmoney and knew what he did. You
know, look, he played,he always played, He always played as

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as hard as he could and everythinglike that. But he knew he didn't
really care about the packaging. Tookthe money, strung the fans along a
little bit. Jets, Aaron Rodgersis a little bit more selfless because he
can be. He's made his name, he's a multiple time MVP, He's
won a Super Bowl. He's gotenough money in the bank to, you
know, to probably become a minorityinvestor in an NFL team if he wanted
to. So now he can go. I want to do this for the

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team. Back his head, Iwant to do this because I want to
do something that Brett Farv never did. I want to do something that nobody
had any The only guy to dowhat I want to do, his name
is Joe Namath. It's the onlyguy who's ever done what I want to
do. Here, there was aCM Punk comparison somewhere in between. I
got the money, strung the fansalong, left, came back different person.
There was a lot of CM.Aaron Rodgers is talented and doesn't look

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like he works at a Burger game. That's true. Actually, I take
that back. There are times AaronRodgers, and please take that back,
because if I look behind the counterand see him Punk was back there,
I probably go somewhere else. IsAaron Rodgers CM Punk five one eight six
' nine oh oh nine eight hYeah, I mean it looked a little
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eighty five million dollars. He soldout the majority of the ownership for three
point five billion dollars to Miriam Aedelson, who her father was like, this
this Las Vegas casino tycoon. She'staken that over. They say she's worth

(27:47):
about thirty two point three bill She'ssold about two bill worth of stock shares
or whatever in one of the hotelsto make this purchase. So he sold
out, but he's still running theteam. He still has control of the
team, even though he sold offthree point five billion dollars of it,
all I could think of is thisdude is one hundred percent freeing himself up

(28:10):
responsibility wise, any kind of anykind of thing where you would look at
it, you know where it wouldbe. Hey, that's he might be
using his powers for the for bador whatever. He's getting ready to all
those things because he's gonna run forpresident. And he has come out and
said, quote, uh, thatis galaxies off. My family would disown

(28:32):
me. I'm not running for president. Galaxies off me is not. No
family, just don't disown me.It just puts a hurdle in a way.
This screams to me, if andwhen Donald Trump gets through Republican nomination
or at least looks like there's noone who can challenge him, he's going
to be called to duty or we'regoing to beg him to do it.
And Mark Cuban's gonna actually run forpresident, because why would you do all

(28:55):
these moves at once unless you're clearingyourself up to get in there and run
for president. So let me goback with that first question. Excuse me,
the last question just asked the mostrecent one. So he sells it
for three and a half billion dollarsand he can still do what he wants
day to day feels kind of sortof like Dana White. Now I get
it. Some would say that's applesand oranges. The point we're trying to

(29:17):
make is Dana cashed in on hisoriginal investment but still got to do what
he does day in and day out. Very rich, plus getting to do
what you like your entire life.That's a pretty sweet set up there.
Mark Cuban already very rich, getto do what he wants day in and
day out. Maybe Adelson Adelson,however you want to throw that a around.
Yeah, wanted somebody with the Mavericks, and that was the part of

(29:37):
the deal. Hey, I've neverdone this before. You've been doing this
for decades plus. I need someonethrough this process to guide me through.
I need somebody to lean on asthey take on a new business, which
I think owners of new businesses.That's probably an asset to have Mark Cuban
there, who's won a championship anddone what he's done overall is a business.
She may very well be wanting tomove whatever team to Vegas, you
know, obviously, or have areason why. She's proof that she could

(30:02):
run a team if it were inVegas too, But like so, her
motivation is clear to me, whatis his Yeah, No, no,
I think Cuban probably has two.He has three lanes of motivation the president,
which I will get to him,and ignoring that, but I just
want to offer up two other potentialpossibilities to what Cuban wants to do.
One is he's got billions of dollars. He's in his sixties, I believe
now late fifties, early sixty sixtyfive years old, and before the deal

(30:26):
he had six point two bill Maybehe just doesn't want to work anymore,
but he still run the team.He's still running the team, but maybe
it's a little bit easier, LikeI'll just do this. I've got other
ventures I'm doing. I'm doing SharkTank. I know he's no more Shark
Tank. Well, hang on,hang on, I'm gonna get there,
Like I'm going to get rid ofthis, but just focus on this.
I'm gonna have less work on myplate. I'm gonna have less things I'm

(30:48):
doing in my mid sixties. That'smaybe one motivation. He could go to
the beach, but again he's gonnado stuff with the Mavericks. Maybe he's
gonna do it for the time beingand then go to the beach and live
life is mid sixties, seventies eightieshealthcare. I don't know how people follow
Mark Cuban, but if you've beenfollowing Mark Cuban, he's doing some stuff
with healthcare where he's offering up lessexpensive options to people. Potentially this isn't

(31:10):
a plug from our Cuban, butit's just like, well, something he's
done that he's a sure similar storylineto what happened in Billions. Just put
it out there so Cuban could say, you know what, I have a
new motivation in my life. I'mgoing to finish my time up with the
Mavericks until they tell me I gotto go. My new focus for the
rest of my life while I'm onEarth is to help people get healthier with
this option. Maybe he just wantshelp people's motivation and things they care about

(31:33):
in life change as they get older. That could be it. Let's go
back to the presidency though. Let'sgo back to that one, because even
though he said time and and timeout, I'm not running for president except
twenty seventeen when he said he kindof sort of think about it. Why
like why would he want to doit? And why Look, he can
go either way, right, LikeI know you mentioned he'd run against foreign

(31:53):
President Trump on that side. Hedoesn't think about just flipping parties and being
like, hey, all that thatstuff. What the Republicans are doing on
that side seems like a lot ofwork. Can I just go to the
other side and beat Trump one onone? Do have a better chance to
win it? On this one?You always run in deependent But it's been
a long time. I think,if ever in the history of the country
we've seen an independent candidate win,or probably two hundred years. But if

(32:16):
he went and this you're the you'rethe poly side major. I'm not.
If a guy who is clearly Republicanin value and what he does, at
least the majority of what he does, ran as a Democrat, then that's
just more and more proof that thosenames are just names. Like it's just
like as much as like, ohwell, if you're if you're medium to

(32:38):
low income, you should be aDemocrat because they fight for every man,
this, that and the other.And if you're higher of this, if
you're a Republican because they want youto keep your running all these things.
Right, No, they just theyjust hate each other because they gave each
other titles. One wears a redtie, one wears a blue tie.
Like that's like because I mean Trumpsaid, I don't even remember how long
ago he would run if he wasever gonn run for pres He runs a

(33:00):
Democratic because people love me alive,Thank you, Republican. But like Cuban.
If if you're Mark Cuban, youhave a very you have a great
deal of popularity. Most people likehim, you know, some people are
annoyed by him, but most peoplelike him. You get past Trump,
who's stopping you? I'm sorry,I don't think Joe Biden can stop you

(33:22):
at this point. I don't knowwho in the Democratic Party is charismatic enough.
Like you said, he's sixty five. He looks great for sixty five,
that's for sure. But you know, compared to everybody else in this
thing, sixty five, Mark Cubansounds like a spring chicken, you know.
So it's just one of those dealswhere the moves just seem too convenient

(33:43):
towards running for president. To me, if you wanted to go live on
an island and retire, you couldhave done that five years ago, ten
years ago, twenty years ago.And I know I remember an episode on
Shark Tank where he said that wherehe's like, the island idea sounds good
until about three weeks in you're like, I gotta get something to do,
Like this isn't as fun as youthink it is, So that option's probably

(34:04):
already been scratched off by him,but it is odd that it's back to
back. Do I think Mark Cubanis going to run for president? No,
I don't think he is. Idon't think he is is. I'm
a Mark Cuban fan. I wishI could. He's on the list of
top five people I'd like to interviewbefore they tell us we got to stop
doing this for a living, whateverthat is ten, fifteen, twenty years
from now. Hopefully Mark Cuban's onmy list of somebody I'd like to interview

(34:27):
because I have a stupid joke setup about him about Mark. Do you
hear me when I yell at youabout how great those deals are? Do
you hear me through my television?I'm yelling at you in Shark Tank and
it laugh at me and say,yeah, I do. Every single time
I've envisioned this, I've dreamed thiswith me and Mark Cuban because I call
him Cube. I call him Cube. I wish we had heart music to
talk about your date night with MarkCuban Friday Nights Shark Tank. My wife

(34:49):
falls asleep and then it's just meand Mark. Oh, he gets weird.
Everything you're saying, it's weirder.What do you mean I'm gonna say
this to him. I think he'sgonna be like, yeah, man,
I know you're guy is gonna we'regonna hug each other. No, I
thought about it. You're never gonnahug Mark cub You're never gonna hug Mark
cub I think, and you ask, like, why would you want to
get all this money? You getall these things. I do believe there

(35:12):
are legitimately still some people left inthis world who would like to help other
people. Maybe it's part of theirego, maybe whatever, who knows,
But like, he strikes me asthe kind of guy who's like, you
know what I've done really well?I'm very this world has served me well,
this country has served me well.I want to help it serve other
people well. I could see himbeing that kind of guy who actually wants

(35:35):
to help, because I gotta behonest. The way politicians are are demonized
and rightfully so in some cases,I would never run for anything. Like
all the good people, like allthe good people are sit never going now.
I'm good, I'm good. Thepeople who have the plans that could
actually save us all are sit over. Yoh no no no no, no,
no no no. I got drunkand throw up on a cop shoes

(35:57):
once in college. I don't needto hear about that. All of our
teams, I'm not I'm not doingthat. So I just this seems to
me to be chapter one of ofhim being dragged. He's gonna be dragged
in right, It's gonna be oneof those like no, no, like
when you hold one hand up likestop and the other one's waving forward.
No, please stop telling everyone Ishould run for president. No, no,

(36:19):
I should run now okay. Oh, by the way, I just
freed up three point five billion dollarsto put towards my candidacy, so I
don't even have to take donations.I can prove that I'm my own man.
It's all man. I'll tell you, I just watched Billions, and
I don't know. Like you said, I'm not gonna say the same,
dude, But seeing a lot ofsimilarities art. Life imitates art. My

(36:40):
friend happens all the time. Wouldyou vote for Mark Cuban? I don't
know his politics. I don't knowwhat he'd be running on site, see
you. That's a better question,that's a better answer than most people give.
I would say yes, just becausehe seems less less terrible than everyone
else, and I don't even knowhis politics. Could be every fat guy
north of forty six should be,you know, just removed from the country,

(37:01):
and I'd be like, damn,all right, well I'll get on
the boat. I voted. Ididn't look where are we going? But
he just seems like I don't know. It's this a person. I'd rather
have him around than any of theother ones. Right now, I'm supposed
to trust you, Mark Cuban.You didn't need to invest in bing.
Whatever the thing is that the doorbell? Is it called bing when it but
I think it was It was itbing on Shark Tank and had a different

(37:22):
thing? Is that is Amazon's camerasit is ring? Ring? Is the
doorbell was called something different on SharkTank when it was presented? So maybe
I don't trust him because of it. Let's put it like this, blink
is it what you think of itmight have been and that was called ring.
Yeah, okay, because ring ismy outdoor cameras. Blink are my

(37:44):
indoor cameras. Okay, So that'swhat I don't know. You got the
point of the stupid joke. Iwas trying to make. He missed out
Shark tank deal now, so whatto trust him? And that's how people
are gonna twist it. I likeMark Cuban, I do. I think
this is a very cool thing forthe sports world because there have been people
that both left and right from thesports world that entered politics, some successful,

(38:07):
some not successful. Bill Bradley right, former Nick tried running for president,
Tom Osborne served in a political office, Tommy Tubberville still getting booed.
We had some weird ones like CraigJames and herschel Walker. We've seen Tim
Tebow always thought was going to runfor politics. I thought Tim Tebow would
have gonna know, he's a fantasticpolitics He's run. So Mark Cuban can

(38:30):
be one of these people added tothe list of former sports figures. Although
a governor, I want to makesure I get that right. A governor
of the Dallas Mavericks that could enterhis name in there. It doesn't have
to be president. Maybe he hasanother position he's eyed up. Maybe he
has something else he wants to doin the political game that we don't even
know about. Unless he's fregering himselfup to be vice president, how weird

(38:52):
would that ticket? No chance he'sever vice president. Hold on, just
just breathe in the crazy with mefor a moment. He always you and
I when it gets to the collegefootball playoff, the seating for the NCAA
tournament, we we live for thechaos. I think we should draft him.
If Donald Trump gets the Republican nomination, we should draft just force him

(39:16):
to be the vice the vice presidentfor Donald Trump, force it or Biden
either side. I don't care.We should force him to be vice president
if he doesn't run for president.You know, ah, that will never
work. Well. Are not allowedto force people to do it? Well
that I'm gonna ignore that part.But there are people who are business owners
and people who have egos that havegotten to a point in their life they

(39:37):
are never listening to anybody for therest of their lives. Oh he'll listen
to me, grown men. Don'tthink he hears you through the TV.
Now, he's not gonna listen whenI forced him, Vice President, he
here's my advice, and it's notI'm not forcing him to take the deal.
I'm saying, like, that's agreat deal. You gotta get it
on this cube. You got Iknow you can. He gotta pass.
These guys are idiots. Get outof this. No, no, no,

(39:59):
all right, maybe maybe this isme watching Shark Tank, but no,
like he won't listen to anybody else. You and I work in radio.
There are people you've met in yourcareer and I've met in my career
where I can only imagine them goingback and taking real jobs. And you're
like, no, no, no, they're never gonna listen to a boss
again. There are people who arethey a ton of money who've decided to
be entrepreneurs, like Cuban, whodid it because they never wanted to listen

(40:20):
to a boss again. He wouldnever work for anybody for the rest of
his life. ABC doesn't really count. He does his own thing on that
show. So do the rest ofthe billionaires on the show. I mean,
there's there are there are beliefs thatcertain certain White House affiliations, the
Vice President's completely separate entity. Basically, like they just don't get along to
the point where the president looks atthe vice president goes, you handle this,

(40:43):
this and this, I'll handle everythingelse. Go away, you know,
Qan saying that, Nah, I'mnot taking orders from anybody for the
rest of my life. I gotseven billion dollars. There's a certain type
of money that is. I won'tsay that on the air, but we
all know what's of money that is. Bleep you get yourself one hundred year
roof and bleep you you know whatyou say to everybody, bleep you Yeah.

(41:05):
John Goodman saying that in the Gambler, it's the best. All right,
I listen, I might have tomake a bet with you about that.
I think I think Youan's gonna throwhis hat in the ring. There's
a lot of bets on today's show. There's yeah, I mean we always
do. We need a bet board. You initiate them all like this is
me actually looking at it. Itjust it just screams it. It just
screams like no, no, Ican't am very busy, very busy.

(41:27):
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Doug Dowdy to come over and givehis take. We may need a special
Dug appearance. I know he's aRed Sox fan and a Falcon fan.
We may need a ten minute hit. Yeah, that makes no sense.
I don't understand that. Boston Bruins. We need a special guest appearance.
You have to politics. That's whyhe's not doing So. We're in here

(41:51):
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Hornets, not without some kind oflike little drama though, because I don't
think you're the Knicks if there's nodrama. As good as they're playing,
and they've been playing really well,there's still like this little Josh Hart versus
Tom Thibodeau thing. Have you seenthis at all? Is this the social
media stuff you're talking about? It'sback and forth, Yeah, but it's
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if it's really between TIBs and andHeart because Heart's basically said, look,
the way the way this team runsisn't the way I normally play. He's
got reduced minutes. You know they'renot you know he's he said, remember
that used to be the volume shooter. Oh yeah, that was the like
I gotta I gotta shoot a lot. If I'm gonna I'm gonna hit it.
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need more minutes. Is I'm arhythm player, because that's what Heart said.
I'm a rhythm player. So sometimeswhen I don't touch the ball for
four or five minutes, running upand down the floor just catch and shoot,
I might as well be playing witha football. I feel like I
have no feel for the ball.There are definitely times that he'll pass up

(50:08):
shots because I'm not in the rhythm. I don't like the feel of it.
So like every but then of coursethe news ran and we're like,
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(50:30):
during an interview and he literally likehas said, sense, I might have
to change my style to play tofit what is needed of me to play.
However, New York Post you know, everybody on Twitter and everything,
like Josh Hart wants to punch tomthing, but like it feels like the two
of them are fine, just kindof working out some system stuff. But

(50:52):
everybody wants it to be a fight. Like where am I? Is that
me looking through you know, blueand orange colored glasses or is that or
is this the media trying to gillold drama there? At MSG You listening
might have caught this. When Levaksaid the word rhythm player, I started
laughing into the microphone because I knew. I knew this is what the New
York media was going to do withthat quote, because I don't care what

(51:12):
you do at what level. Everyonewants to play. Everyone wants to feel
important a part of something. Itdoesn't mean if you have a bunch of
siblings in your family. You know, sometimes the youngest sibling in the family
might yell the most so they canjust get the attention, like shot at
men with you. I've made agood career out of that. It was

(51:34):
me though, mammm mom, wouldyou hear the term rhythm shooter? Just
say hey, I want to playmore? And I don't even know why
that's a bad thing At this point, people want to play. I would
rather have eleven guys on a teamtwelve guys eighty three in football. Whatever
that every single guy who's not playingis ticked off they're not playing. That's

(51:54):
great. Now, how do youhandle that frustration? Do you pout and
practice? Do you enter the transferportal? Do you see the coaches being
mean? Most players who are teenagersaren't mature enough to understand that, Hey,
you're eighteen. The guy ahead ofyou twenty three. You're a freshman,
he's a senior. It's gonna taketime. You play it. Name

(52:14):
whatever school. You were the bestplayer at your school. Josh Hart's always
likely been the best basketball player ona court. Things change. There have
been Hall of Famers and All Starswho have to come off the bench.
It happens. But when you sayI'm a rhythm shooter, it just says
that he wants to play more,which I have no issue with the New
York media as he laid out clearlydoes. I have no issues with Josh
Hart seeing he wants to play more. Every guy should want to play more.

(52:36):
Every female athlete should want to playmore. I guess if I had
more information, I might turn thisinto a bigger deal than it than I
have mentally, who's like right now? The information I have is what you're
saying, like, I would liketo play more, and then Tim's going,
You're gonna play when I say play, okay, and that's the end
of it. That's the way itlooks, that way it appears. But

(52:58):
rhythm shooter is numbercent code for Iwant to play more like that's not it's
no longer. You know, youknow I need minutes for this. No,
I'm a rhythm shooter. Oh okay, so you want you want?
You want an extra six to eightminutes a game? Okay? Cool,
and don't forget. Historically, Dibbodeohas been crushed for not subbing players,
for overworking his favorite eight or nine. So that that's gonna turn around some

(53:22):
point too. I always want likefor people who listen to that term rhythm
shooter, think about other ways inlife that could change. Imagine you're watching
your favorite band and your drummer's justripping through a song. No, no,
no, next drummer, get himout. No no, he was
just killing it. No, Igotta get gotta get minutes for the backup.
Levak and guys are killing a segmentall of a sudden one of the
Zachs Hopson, Well, I wasjust he was just doing the Cuban thing.

(53:42):
He was astake if that happened.It just sounds weird. When people
get subbed out of something their havesuccess at. It is odd. The
weird part of the reason that,like I was, I'm willing to at
least sit here and pretend it mightbe an issue though. Is he just
he just re signed, like hejust so? Like what was the Was
there a conversation right before he signed? Was it was there a hey,
look I really want to be here, but I think I have a chance

(54:05):
to play more somewhere else, Andthey went no, yeah, come here.
Well you you're in here two ofthis now you'll you'll get more minute,
It'll be fine, or you know, or vice versa. Did they
go to him like, hey,we want you here, you got there's
a chance for doing things different?You still in yeah, yeah, no,
I mean so if there was evera conversation during it beyond just how
many commas and where they go,that would be interesting because that's where because

(54:30):
if you tell me, like whenI you know, I came over to
iHeart to work with you. Yousaid you were gonna, you know,
do a better job. Uh no, kidd, I came over here.
Like if you had said to me, like, hey, Levac bye.
By February, you're gonna be You'regonna have three shows, You're gonna do
this, or you do that,and none of that happened. Well,
you and I are gonna have anissue. None of that happened by the

(54:52):
way I was promised basically nothing.I was literally told like, hey,
will you come here and talk fortwo hours? Okay? Cool? But
if like I came in here andyou guys go, hey, look,
it's at least the words that wereused when I came in here. Hey,
take a leap of faith with us. We'll work together and see what
we can build. And then Igo back and go, whoa wait a
minute, pooh, I'm a rhythmhost. Okay, I need at least

(55:14):
a four hour desk show. Ineed. I need three hundred thousand dollars.
I need. You know what,what did quinnin can't teara make together?
I need twice that That's what Ineed. It was this this Doug
gentleman on ge why I want?I want three times his contract, and
then it's like, well, you'rea jerk. We told you what you
were getting when you came in here, and now you're changing the story.

(55:35):
But like I think this is thisis one hundred percent of New York Post
and everybody going, well, it'sbeen kind of quiet lately. We don't
our hockey stars, don't even knoweach other's parents. Let's let's go to
whatever and then here we are,you know, so it be something to
keep an eye on, something towatch. I like following competitive people.
It's a good thing. It's agood thing to be competitive. It's a
good thing for the Knicks. It'snot like the old days of Remember Larry

(55:57):
Hughes, I believe played for theKnicks, and it's like, I don't
care, Mamma, Larry Johnson,that's Larry. There's Larry Hughes who said
the great quote of I don't careif we win or lose. I'm getting
paid no matter what. I knowhe did that for the Bulls, but
I believe he was the former Nicktoo. I'd have a lot more Josh
Harts than Larry Hughes is out there, for sure. I'm a rhythm insult
guy. I've got to keep throwingthem out there, or else I might
miss the miss some. Don't insultthe Albany FireWolves. Sure throughout the year,

(56:20):
we're gonna bringing you some Almedy Firewolfcoverage. Market on your calendar,
Set the reminder, set the AppleSpotify zooms to three forty five on Wednesdays.
We're going to continue as they getcloser and closer to the home opener
December ninth inside MVP Arena where they'regoing to host the Buffalo Bandits, the
defending champions from last season. Holidayseason is officially here. If you're looking
for an easy gift, a fungift, a local team to support the

(56:43):
Albany FireWolves. And I'm talking aboutwhether season tickets, whether it's that memorabilia,
that merch you can rock around theCapital region in more in a fun
time for the family. That's theAlbany FireWolves. You know, I love
shouting out their social media because theydo a great job there alb FireWolves.
Alb FireWolves from Instagram to TikTok andmore Twitter, you can follow exactly what's
going on. So it's season tickets, it's merch, it's competitive athletes.

(57:04):
They're posting the roster and more.December ninth, make sure you're an MVP
arena. Support that local squad,the Albany Fireworks. We got some stories
about some local sports coming up.By the way, in the Top four
four, go out and support theFireWolves. I'm glad you been telling everybody
about December ninth and Buffalo because peopleare not coming with me ask for tickets.
So I didn't realize, Like,if you hadn't been telling me,
i'd been like, leave me alone, what do you want? And now
I'm like, oh, Somber ninth, Buffalo's be a good game. So

(57:27):
now, by the way, I'mjust send everybody to you because I know
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