7-8-24 Hour 3

Levack gives the latest update on Albany Firebirds semi-final game
Goz is fired up about Giants Episode 1 of Hard Knocks
The Dump features Cats and Hot Dog eating contest recap

Episode Transcript

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W OX, Troy wgy F,MHD two opening, W two forty opening,
Fox Sports nine eighty nine. Factit's Levac and Guz on ninety five
nine Fox Sports Radio. The alMany Firebirds are hosting a playoff game this

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Saturday, two thirty MVP Arena isgoing to be pretty amazing the slign of
Liberty. All right, team thathas not had any real interest in playing
us in the past, and nowthey're coming to town. Now they're gonna
come here and uh and and Iwould assume lose to us. Let me
ask a question. I'm not tryingto be funny or sarcastic, I'm being

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really serious. And I asked this, They're gonna come right, Yeah,
yes, okay, I mean honestly, like it, with the way this
year's gone, would anything shock meanymore? But they know they if they
were at a point now where ifthey weren't here, their their name is
mud like it's over for them.I asked that, not trying to poke

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fun anybody, because they said theydidn't want to come earlier. Yeah,
they said they didn't want to cometo Albany earlier, so now they have
to come to Albany. Yeah,this I mean, this is the playoffs,
like this is you beat a SouthwestKansas team that came to play,
the Storm came to play. Therewas a couple of really bad throws and
a couple of things that have donedifferently. Who knows where that where that
game goes, But you beat SouthwestKansas. So now you're one went away

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from the arena bwle Like if youwere if you don't show up for this,
what are you? What are youplaying for? Like at what point
do we look at you and goYou're not allowed to have a team anymore?
And that happens like in this leazieslevel, like the guys who are
running this now, uh you know, Gary Conpton, Jerry Kurrz, of
course, Jeff Fisher, They're notgonna sit here and let that happen.

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And if it, if it didhappen, they're gonna spread the word and
every league around the world is gonnago, don't let these guys in.
They suck, They're terrible. Theyit was more important to hide from Albany,
and it was more important to likelose than to give yourself a chance
to win. So so no,they'll be here and and Nashville versus Orlando.

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That game that was an you know, that was a beating for more
Orlano took a beating in that one. And the thing is, and this
is something that you and I knowis like Rander hipperd he's real, Like
that guy is a quarterback that like, That's the beauty in the curse of
arena football is you can dominate aleague all year long and then a team

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goes and gets Randy Hippard off thecouch and all of a sudden, they're
they're hanging sixty on a team that'sreally good in Orlando. So Nashville has
become that Nashville Billings game. I'mdialed in on that one. I'm all
in on that game. So twopoint thirty we host Salina, the winner
of this weekend. They're going tothe American Dream Mall in Jersey and and

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fighting it out. Tell us whathappened on the call? Tell us tell
us quick, teasing us, wewant the inside scoop. People just assumed
the head and said, I wantto know. Tell us well, So
obviously last last weekend, CBS SportsNetwork got involved. They are now broadcast
in the games nationally. So,uh, that was awesome. That's real.

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So out of out of all thesetimes that we've we've been told you're
gonna have this, you're gonna thatyou got eything. We actually had a
league leadership call us up and gobe ready, here comes here come CBS
Sports Network. And they showed upand they were there and they'll be there
this weekend too. That's why we'redoing the two thirty. Where do you
mean where billions are Omney both?Hmmm, what that's odd. They didn't

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call me. They are They're goingwith their They have a standard broadcast team
that they use Ari Wolf, whowas, you know, one of our
broadcasters back in the day. Soyou know, sorry, sometimes it's just
you know, continuity. It's it'sabout continuity, guys. Yeah, it's
okay. I would have loved tohave actually gotten you out there, you

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know that I did. I hada feeling like I'm not actually that upset
because I know how this goes.Like, for instance, like you all
been in Santa broadcasters know this.By the time the conference finals hit,
you might do a radio call,but not the television call because of networks.
I totally get it. However,it was funny I found out via
social media. Yeah, I feltlike an NBA player who just got traded,
and just Santillo is probably like,hey, what the I mean I

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did send it to you at least, yeah, thanks for telling Andrew for
me, No, and listen,like you know, I'm not bad.
I'm just joking around after the Youknow that I'd love to have you do
it. I think you're more thantalented enough to do it, but this
is the league decision at this point. There was the nail budding thing.
It definitely it dropped your stock significantly, like I mean, like like a

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lot. Like they already knew huhthey were They could say they your hand.
They were like, what's up withhis cue? Those look terrible?
So are you, Wilf. Anotherperson will be on the call, and
then someone else will be out inBillings. I'm guessing Dave Ryan say people
for all of them. When's thebuildings kick off? I'm sorry man,
on the same day. Yeah,so maybe it's a remote situation. All
right, I think it's remote.I was watching I was watching the broadcast,

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and I'm almost positive they've been doingit remotely because it's just the CBS
Sports Network bann are behind them,which would lead me to believe that if
you were going to be at theseplaces, you would have some kind of
signage from there behind you. Youknow, we're two thirty there, ten
o'clock. I think it'll change overtime, but right now that steal.

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There's a chance that they might behere because we know they're going to be
in Jersey. But no, it'sthis is dude, this is all I
feel bad now, I feel bad. Why No, I think you did.
We had this conversation yesterday, wetexted about it. Just the league
call confirmed it. But I thinkthis is very important to ryan people have.
Even though the game's on CBS SportsNetwork, there are a lot of

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however, you have your cable package, there's a lot of people don't have
that. There is no radio callscheduled right so the only way you're gonna
be able to watch or follow orbe a part of the Firebird action is
by getting to MVP arena getting yourtickets. It's playoff time. We talk
about this all the time in sportsof this is a moment game. This
was a I remember when I wasin the MVP arena for the Firebird playoff

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game when they came back that firstseason and played and had the matchup against
the Salon of Liberty. This isone of those events in twenty twenty four
and I was way or when typeof feel this weekend? Well, because
I think I think when you know, ten years from now whatever, probably
looking back and going some of usare going, well, I remember how
crazy a start that was. Ithink a lot of people are gonna forget

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what this league went through to gethere. Because so CBS Sports Network is
is nationally internationally is his zone,So like in Mexico and in Canadia,
they're they're on the zone. They'regonna get to watch on there. So
like it's a worldwide product now,like it's this is they opened the call
today, Jerry Curtz goes, welcometo a professionally run league, and like

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we were like, thank you,thank you so much, but no,
it's gonna it's man. I wouldhave liked to hear Gazi Bear on the
car. No that's not so Here'sthis isn't about me. This is about
the league. So what else happenedon the call today? Besides that?
Anything happened like award wise, LikeI'm fascinated by that. Are we gonna

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hear some MVP talk here soon arewe gonna get all of that? Is
gonna be the week of the gamein Jersey. I found out today that
if you're not from Albany, youneed to be in Jersey by Tuesday night.
If you're from Albany, you canbe there Wednesday morning, no matter
what win or loss. When everybodylost key representatives of the team. So

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this is like the Super Bowl,like for for those who don't know.
Yeah, for those who don't know, like the Ravens, the Steeler,
I'm just listening teams off, notchecking shots everyboy's seen. But like if
you're a team that's not in thatyear Super Bowl, they send everybody from
their teams to help out in thatcity for press credentials, media events,
radio row. So that is exactlyhow goes. You are a member of

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the executive stafford the Albdy Firebirds.You are semi employed by the Arena Football
League in a sense, even thoughyour paycheck comes from somebody else that comes
from anymore. To be honest withyou, it's that's a part of the
gig. Okay. That is alsohelpful to know because uh, yeah,
no, you're not gonna be herea lot next week. Yeah, here's
so neither one of us are goingto be doing the broadcast for the AFL.

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One of us might not be thebroadcast here. Uh yeah, I've
obviously, you know, got aroll with whatever whatever's needed by the league
and the team somewhere closer setting upfor next Friday's Saratoga show. Yeah,
I'm waiting. Gods, by theway, get me a media pass.
We're working on it. Yeah,where's mine. By the way, you're
gonna need one of those myself.So Race named after me Friday for Pete's

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sake. Yeah, no, itwas. It was a really good call.
It was basically just today was alot of just knowing everybody know what
your job is, right, Sowe've got professional broadcasters, we've got a
professional network to work with. Like, you knew more about our team because
you took the time. So you'reyou're almost embedded with the Firebirds. Now

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imagine if you were if I toldyou to do the same job but with
Selina, Like, you need theinformation. So today was what information they
expect from each team? Uh,what what they need media wise, meach
team, what they expect for uswhen we get to Jersey, stuff like
that, and then there'll be anothercall next week on Monday that'll finalize what's

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needed for the arenable. Yeah,I'm guessing it's like media stuff, so
like media contexts, a media dayand the naal and two twenty two there
was a press conference. Yeah,so yeah, I was gonna say you
had a huge role in that,So that might be don't be shocked if
you're doing that again the next week, Levan, I don't know that.
I think the group now, ifthis was if this was the people who

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launched this league, I would thinkit would all be me because they just
didn't know or care. These guyslike Jered Kurson has run the Arena Football
League before. Jeff Fishers knows footballhere, comes played it, ran,
It's done a bunch of stuff.So these guys I might not be needed
nearly as much as you would think. I might be asking the wrong people

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here. This may maybe their decision. This might be more the Arena's decision.
Let's say, for instance, you'rea season ticket holder for Soalina or
Albany or Nashville or Billings. Arethere any discounts for the Arena Football Championship
the Arena Bowl Championship at the AmericanDreams set up there, I don't think
so that's not the vibe that I'vegotten so far. Like people have been

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asking about bus trips. I've alreadytalked to Yankee Trails where we've got something
kind of skeleton built out. ButI just don't know what tickets are available
to me. Like I found outtoday that technically across the parking lot,
Luke Combs is having shows right whenwe're there for the game. Yeah.

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Man, it's gonna be it's gonnabe crazy, it's gonna be a crazy
one. But tickets available now?Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
yep, go to THEAFL dot comand now you get your tickets. Now,
come out. We're working on everythingelse. Tomorrow we will be hanging
out over at Mohawk Chevrolet together thosetraving Mawks, Chevy. Amazing selection,
amazing people. Katie Duncan, theassistant GM, was just named to the

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top forty under forty for for carmanagement. To her, that's awesome.
Yeah, I mean that's and that'sthe group there, you know what I
mean, that's everybody, Travis Horn, the GM, Andy Gelcher, Jeff
Herrodon, the entire it's it's afamily over there, it's the Mohawk family.
I was talking to some and Iknow who's you know, thinking about

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looking into, you know, workingat different automotive places. I'm like,
there's only one I hands down recommendand it's the Mohawk family. Mang Chevallet.
You got everything right there. Whetheryou're looking for a car, a
truck, fleet service available, youwant to get your car wrapped, you
want to do whatever it is,it's all there. So while you're looking
for that perfect Mallibu tracks, youknow, the Impalace that I've always loved,

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the Silverado, whatever it is,they're gonna have it for you.
Their finance department is gonna get youthe best numbers possible, and you're gonna
love your vehicle as much as Ilove mine. Together, let's trive on
maalk Chevy, where they always goout of their way to please you.
I don't even know what we're doing. Well, I'm a little ticked off
about what happened involving hard not Oh, I'm fired. I've been waiting all
so long. I got some rantsabout Daniel John's giant fans. It is

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July eighth. It's time to beconcerned about management. I'll tell you why
next year. On Fox Sports ninetyfive nine and ninet eighty. That was
Quick in Colony and Acts. It'sLovak and Guz on the Voice of the
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After a nice little week of ofof fun, but not all the
fun, I needed, you knowwhat I'm saying. I wanted I needed
more fun. I finally got tosit down and watch The Giants Hard Knocks
off season and I liked it.I thought it was a good show.

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I thought it was I you know, I left going if Joe Shane is
going to be the focus the entiretime or or do you think it's just
this one? Like that was mybig walk away because the GM was the
major focus of the first episode.Yes he was. I cannot believe I've
waited almost two hours tick by this, Like this is the thing I've been
the hottest about over the sports calendar. If you listen to any other station

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or watch anything else, we're gonnanot talk about the Dallas Cowboys, which
my gosh, how this is America'steam on the July fourth covers, every
single outlet did the same thing overand over. Why weren't more people talking
about this last week? Because Lacit almost feels like it's a mix between
like bizarro world, like the mixof none, no, no, he

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never does anything wrong. Ever.I've never been in the relationship where I
believe I had to defend my relationshipwith other like family members or friends,
like no, no, she's notthat bad. Other people have been No
matter what they do, they're notwrong. Giant Finn. I'm like concerned
about what I saw in this episode. And I know I'm the person who
also ridiculed the Jets Hard Knocks abouthow much it was so pro Aaron Rodgers.

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But I called it out on that, like I called out that it
was two pro Aaron Rodgers, andI said, you know, all I
want from this Giant's Hard Knocks isto be real and authentic, and I
don't want the mayors to be toomuch into it. About halfway through this
episode, I'm like, all right, this is getting a little too real
now. I actually don't want youto say some stuff because I'm embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed for the Look Back.There was a moment during the show there

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comparing Daniel Jones to Patrick Mahomes.They're like, well, look at all
the things he had to deal with. He got injured a few times,
the offensive line didn't play well,we didn't give him weapons. Patrick Mahomes
couldn't win behind this team. He'snot Patrick Mahomes. Like, what are
they seeing? I can't figure itout still, even on this Monday.
Is it just the Maris saw itand wanted to add these cuts or do

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they really believe this? Are theyjust willing to go down with Daniel Jones?
Do they see something in practice?I don't. I thought it warning.
I thought it was a warning toDale Jones. Like if you watch
that episode, every time they saysomething about Daniel Jones, it revolves around
the amount of money he gets tothe amount of help he has. So
like the you brought up Mahra,that scene where John Marra is in Joe

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Shane's office and they're talking about SaquonBarkley and he goes Mayri's is some of
the effect of like, well,I would like to bring him back,
and Shane goes not if he's twelvemillion, he goes, we give Dale
Jones a lot of money. Wegive this, he goes in how much
Dale Jones makes? Like three timeshe goes, I believe he said.

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I I gotta remember it's not itwas, but you can tell Marra was
kind of like taking aback. Itwas almost one of those things like I'm
a billionaire, You're supposed to justtell me I'm pretty and do what I
say. But basically, I'm notgiving a dude twelve million dollars for a
forty million dollar dude to him inthe football game. This is dale Jones'
year. You want Dale Jones,you got forty million dollars a year,

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you better go earn it because ifnot, I got you more weapons.
I fixed the offensive line, Idid all those things. There's good running
backs out there. I don't haveto overpay Saquon Barkley. You're you're paid
too much for ready to bring backSaquon Barkley. So like I and marriage
is like looking at it for asecond, like do you know who I
am? Like if I stay,bring them back, bring him back,

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no big problem, huge issue.That's the other big cre some of this
thing. And I know Michael Lombardiwho's a former executive. I know he's
been very loud about this on socialmedia, and other people have watched this
episode and wow, I might thiswhole season transpire if you had a big
criticism and I feel like this isreal. I don't think it's for show.
I don't think they wanted to playit up for a television show.
They don't have to, they don'twant to do it. There are way

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too many decision makers involved in thisthing. There are way too many people
offering their two cents. And it'snot just two cents, it's what are
we gonna do. It's gonna bethe ownership, it's gonna be a GM
he's gonna be an offensive coordinator,gonna be this guy's gonna be that.
Why are all these voices involved?If Merrick back to your point, if
Marras says he's staying, he stand, I think Daniel Jones is the reason
why he's there. Like they went, they had a stretch here where it

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was Eli Manning for a really longtime. Phil Simms was there for a
minute, Kirk Warner was the SuperBowl. We can run through the history
of Giants quarterbacks in the past thatthe Maras have been involved with. Besides
probably Pittsburgh, there's not a lotof franchises that are quite like the Giants
when it comes to being loyalty players. In hell, you could even say
it about coaches, probably during thetop Eric because there was a lot of
times Cofflin's job was called in thequestion. Some would say Cofflin stayed around

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too long for the Giants, buthe also won two Super Bowls. This
might just be the mindset, butthe idea that there's so many people in
there trying to make a call onthis stuff is again a little concerning that
you've got these this many people,Like it should be two people. It
really should be the GM and thehead coach, that's it. But that's
not really how it works. Theowners do have a say what they want
to do because it is their team. Well, you like, I think

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that was what we got to seewere the fact finding meetings, right,
So, Like, so I'm thegeneral manager, I want to hear from
the scouting department what's in the draft. I want to hear from the pro
scouting department what's available in free agencyand possibly for trade. And then I
want to hear from my cappologist whatI can really fit. So like my

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my scouting department, all right,we got six overall, pick, we
got this, we got that.The other thing, if I don't bring
back Saquon, what's your answer?And they're like, bring back Saquon.
It's like, wait a minute,Okay, you're your job is to tell
me who's in the draft? Okay, cool? Uh pro scouting, Uh
what if we signed Saquon, whydon't we franchise and trade him? And
they're like, no, no,no, he held it. We basically

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were held hostage last year by that. No, we're not what to do
with that. Like Joe Shane's kindof looking around the room going okay,
somebody give me an option that isn'tSaquon Barkley. Finally, the only dude's
like, well, there is Singletary, and there is h Moss, and
there's this first like because Moss,there's Singletary, you know him, you
drafted them like this, like whatever. But it was I think we got

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to see the fact finding part.We got to see how the sausage is
made. It's just if for me, it kind of it lessened my my
faith in the organization because again,if I was if I was the general
manager in that situation. And wesat down and I went, Okay,
besides Saquon Barkley, what are myoptions? And three fifths of the room

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goes Saquon Barkley. It's like,what the hell is wrong with you?
I said, no, like thatdude wants thirteen to fifteen million dollars a
year. I ain't giving it tohim. What about Josh Jacobs, same
dog, the same dog. Hegoes the same thing. All right,
Well, listen, we gotta fixthe offensive line. We're gonna make a

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trade for a pass rusher. Wegotta do this, You gotta do this,
got this. I'm not paying therunning back that much. Should Should
we franchise text tick one bucket?No? Like that's what it felt.
I was like, go hit thatfor him? And I don't know if
it's sensitivity. That's the word thatkeeps coming back in my mind about this
season of Hard Knocks is sensitivity becausetraditional hard knocks. I'm not talking about

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the n season hard Knocks because thisis new, Like this whole off season
think is completely new. When wedo the training camp of Hard Knocks,
when we watch it, usually whenthe coaches are ripping a player it's usually
a guy who's not gonna make theteam, where it might be the fringe
guy, like is this uh RodriguezI think about from the Lions? Is
Rodriguez gonna make the team? Lookat Rico playing like they're either hyping him

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up or saying he's not gonna maketeams, so they make a storyline like
Hey, this come from nowhere kidmight make the team, or this kid
stinks but he's got an opportunity.That's usually the go to storylines. Rarely
do you ever think drama right,that's the drama now. I remember the
Dolphin season where Matt Moore was supposedto be the starter and they showed the
conversation believe it was Joe Fildman wasthe head coach who said, Hey,

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Ryan, Tannehill's gonna be the starter, and they showed the whole thing of
like Matt Morgan informed that Tannehill's gonnabe the starter, so we saw it.
But Tannehill also knew that was coming, and Matt Moore in the sense
that they knew the episode was cominglike nothing. People forget this. Sometimes
Hard Knocks is on tape delay,so all the conversations were seeing on a
Tuesday or Wednesday happened the week previous, So no one's really getting caught off

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guard. Maybe once or twice frombehind the scene conversation. This actually is
catching people off guard, like whichis funny even older Yes, where it's
like Barkley, do we want himor not? Jacob's singletar the thing about
Daniel Jones back to your original pointabout like, is this a motivating tactic
for Daniel Jones? And even thinkabout it like that, But that does
make a ton of sense because it'slike if Daniel Jones was watching this and
he sees his employers having conversations aboutwhat potentially could or could not be the

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future, Yes, they are standingbehind him and showing him support. And
that's I'm sure something that was saidby the Marris. Let's make sure we're
not ripping Daniel the whole time.Let's show our quarterback to support because that's
what we do here for the giantswhere professionals is the right way to do
it. But just put yourself inthe shoes of Daniel Jones wherever you work,
Like, think about that for asecond. Imagine your boss has had

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a camera on them four months agoand they were thinking about replacing people,
and now four months later it's gonnaair and you're gonna hear what your bosses
say about you and then you haveto go to work like that would have
been if they've ripped Daniel Jones,which again it felt like watching this like
come on, you gotta get uhoh, what's July? And aucu't gonna

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be like in the New York mediaseeing this response. I was on a
morning show once that a new bosscomes in, and every goal you go
meet when periodically talk about plans orwhatever, what are you gonna do next?
Every single one went out that's whatyou get for a however, blah
blah blah money dollar morning show.It's like me, I'm looking around.

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I'm like, wow, I'm notOEt bad enough because I'm not a big
part of that puye. But likelike when you you when when people started
counting your paintings, when they startwatching your pocket, you're in trouble.
Like it's like they nobody says nobodyoutside of Kansas City talks about how much
Patrick Maholes makes because he's worth it, you know what I mean? Like
nobody nobody's sitting there going even whenwhen when Christian McCaffery got another race,

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even though he didn't ask for it, everybody just went is he is a
big part of that offense? Nobodynobody went how much? Oh my god,
Danie Jones forty one million a year? What how's the matter with them?
Like? It's he's got he atthis point, he is a price
tag that is too much. Ilike, I don't know Daniel Jones personally.

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I feel like he has enough inan awareness level to realize he's not
playing well. Like I think he'ssmart enough to realize if he doesn't improve
his game this year. There,I was just gonna move on to the
draft. So I'm just gonna concedethe point that maybe he's smart enough that
he watches us, and maybe he'snot being somebody He's like nothing I just
watched here. Surprised me. Butthere's a difference between Daniel Jones's play for

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the Giants and what it's gonna befor twenty twenty four. Too random,
I'll call him cheap shots or random. WHOA, I didn't see that coming.
Because I do want to tell onestory that happened to you and I
with our former employer, do youremember the story. I want to make
sure I get this right. Somethinghappened in a hallway where one of our
former bosses said something I think toyou. No, okay, okay,

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But then I got involved at likeI didn't do you want to share that
story where you went down to theoffice and headed out with him because of
something he said. And then hesaid, no, I wasn't talking about
you to talk about guys. No, that was am I butchering that that
might be a differ for one.I don't that's not what because it wasn't.
It was the boss before the lastboss, right, Yeah, that

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individual had a and I'm sure everybody'sworked for a boss like this. I
didn't realize at that point. Likethey they what they do is they pick
an enemy, and they pick aperson. They make them the negative,
you know, the negative thing foreverybody else in the building, so you
know, nobody's safe. Well,at that point, I was probably top

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three biggest names in the building forwhat I was doing and bringing in and
stuff. And you know, obviouslyyou know guys are up there with me.
But because there's an old school thinking, my name came first, I'm
the target. Okay, cool,that's fine. I can handle it.
I like it. I got Igot broad shoulders. This person went around
to tell everybody that I was Iwas a clockwatcher, that I was I

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would come in right when I hadto, and I would leave as soon
as I could every day, implyingthat I was lazy. And first of
all, it's never been the case, like I'm wherever I'm supposed to be,
if I'm early, if it's possible. So I went, Nope,
not gonna play this game. You'regonna talk about me, You're gonna talk
to me. I went down,I slammed the door. I said,

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what are you gonna say? Andwe went back and forth, back and
forth. The day before I camein right at the beginning of my shift
because I had been visiting with theIntegrave Sleep Center, and he went,
yeah, and you never told mein a medical issue that changes everything,
I'm like that you're out. That'sthat's how he got out of it.

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But yeah, he walked. Hewas. It was the kind of manager
would walk around and be like,you know, everybody thinks I'm kicking butt.
Well, I don't want to byloyal to you. I want to
loyal to me. He He's theone that when I complimented you, I
said we should at the time wewere we I didn't like the rest of

(26:55):
the staff we had, so Iwent down and I was I was fighting
for you to get a raise andmore respect and to replace certain individuals on
our staff. I'm like, God'salready does their work. He heard I
can cut people's salaries, and thenyou got stuck doing their work. That
was the one that you were apart of. Yes, the reason I

(27:15):
brought that story not because of radiodrama or for a tale to be learned
by young radio people. It wasmore about that you had a conversation with
the boss that you said, Hey, I don't like what you're saying about
me. Let's be adults. Let'sbe men or women about this and have
this out. Well, there isa little bit more on this season,

(27:36):
the off season version of Hard Knocks, more like, oh, we're not
going to talk this out because Saquon'snot here anymore, Like I'm not going
to talk about someone building and notin the building, Like these people are
gonna make decisions about I'll never haveto face them face to face. Maybe
Daniel Jones, maybe is this seasonprogresses. That's what I find very intriguing
about this season. That sure,you can defend Daniel Jones to the point

(27:56):
where I'm frustrated, like you're noteven watching this, or you can go
into the drama of having to havea conversation with that. But there are
some people like that manager, maybeJoe Shane, maybe future seasons of Hard
Knocks who just don't flat out care. Oh yeah, this is my motivating
tactic, right, if you're notgood enough, be better. I just

(28:17):
called you out. Bill Parr sellsthe King nobody. Maybe he's getting ready
for Saratoga, but nobody did thisbetter. Probably can't do it anymore.
Man. We bring up sensitivity likeprobably can't do it anymore? Social media
when and finding clips. Nobody motivatedthrough the media more than Bill Parcells.
Yeah, I mean he loved it. He'd fo with it. Well.
He would do a little sneaky stufftoo, like he'd leave gas tanks and

(28:38):
people's was it. Darren Woodson,he left the gas tank and he's like
how full is it? Like doyou have enough left in the tank to
finish the season? Stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, I think
what's gonna be intriguing I start,I feel like this season is gonna be
we follow each person so like likethat was Joe Shane's, So I think
Brian Dables is probably I'm next.If Brian Dable spends half the episode talking

(29:03):
about how much Dane Jones makes oror maybe like showing look at this,
look at this great video of JoshAllen, look at this great video of
Cam Newton, look at this greatall these other quarterbacks that I've been around.
Then other think it's like, ohyou don't want me. You if
I don't change the way I play, I'm out, Like I think right
now, it definitely feels. Itfeels a lot like a warning, a

(29:26):
little shot across the bout old DaleJones like, hey, get it together,
buddy, forty million and will getme a good quarterback. May just
may not be you that it gets. So I'm into the first one though,
and then you got to like actkthe other thing this next episode,
which is what tomorrow night, ifyou're listening on Monday, July eighth,

(29:47):
the guys will die hard on theproduct. Yeah, I think we find
it. We get the actual detailsof the Bryan Burns trade, because that
started right there. That started atwith the Senior Bowl. They're just sitting
next to each other. Hey,you give me two number ones for Brian
Burns. No one is something elsenow? No, no, now we
can talk now. So it's it'sthere's a lot of uh, it's I

(30:11):
like it. I didn't think Iwas gonna be as into it as I
was. It went fast. That'show you know Hard Knocks episodes that you're
like, is this over yet?Are not good episodes? Hard Knocks episodes
you're like, wow, that wasit. That's all was that was?
That was That was fifty minutes.That was really all right. Let's move
on to the next thing. Uh. So I'm in so far weird weekend
for me. Weird in a lotof well week actually for me, but

(30:33):
the weekend to kind of culminate itall, what's all that? And then
I know that I know you've beenwaiting to talk about something the entire show.
So with the with the dump comingup next, Uh, we'll get
to that, but first us expest control. Yeah, oh my goodness,
what the difference. The I gavethe kids a credit card to go
to the hardware store because we needa new shovel. They were like,

(30:56):
Hey, we'll just grab it.I was like, okay, here,
go ahead. Then I got atext for my daughter. Why don't I
get all these awesome tiki torches.I'm like, why, Well, a
good light and it'll keep the bugsaway. I'm like, you saw bugs
in our yard? No? Yeah, USX pesticletrig So I'm trying to spend
my money on stupid stuff. That'smy job. Okay, that's my job.
USX Past Control takes care of thebugs. I spend the stupid money,

(31:18):
not you. People find surprises whenthey come back from being out of
town or going away for a weekendor going on vacation. Most of the
time it involves their backyard, andI remember, hey, what's this huge
USX pest Control can make sure yourhome is safe. Call for the free
inspection you've been here, and thenset that game plan going forward that maybe
you have some trouble spots as theycall it, maybe you didn't even realize

(31:41):
the past has been in maybe theirway into your home. With a changing
weather in THESS the Capitol region,USX Past Control can help you, Lavac,
And I know from experienced Platinum Packagedmembers his daughter doesn't know what she's
talking about. I just think itwould look cool like a ri. Well,
that's a different conversation we have.That it'll keep the bugs away.
No, no, we already gotthat. My in laws know nothing to

(32:02):
get complimented that. Wow, it'snot very buggy out here, that's right.
USX pass Control, Yeah, Iknow stuff and things. You take
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it's coming up next right here.Fox Sports Radio ninety five, nine
and nine eighty. It's Lovak andGaze on the Voice of the Capitol Regions
Sports Fan Fox Sports ninety five,nine and nine eighty. After like a

(32:30):
week semi hiatus, a lot ofstuff could fall down here to the dump
for today. Sometimes me, thedump is gonna be full all week.
We're just you know, past pastuf good well clogged up for the dump.
Be honest with you. Yeah,we haven't done a dump in so
long that we probably need to takesome medicine, probably need to see medical

(32:51):
help. But also Levec, youand I have been texting about, Oh,
I gotta make sure we get thisin the dump this week, and
make sure this is in the dumpthis week. I want to let you
go. First, I lost thepassion of her mind until yesterday, So
like I sent a text over toold Ghazi Bear. Then I needed to
vent about my daughter's cat. Solike we adopted this this cat I adopted.

(33:16):
So I've been stuck with cats forthe most part since my daughter's been
born. My daughter will go,I want a cat, and I'll go,
we just we're always on the roadkind of, and then we end
up with a cat. And thenit was Bert when she was little,
and Bert loved me and hated her. So Bert was my cat. Then

(33:37):
there was you know this that gizmo. He was amazing. He was an
awesome cat. I ended up shegets this cat trust over the over covid
like it was this feral cat whatever. I had to like spend days with
this cat and a backscratcher, pettingwith a backscratcher because otherwise she hit your
arm like a like a furry queasinart. She just teared the shreds well

(34:00):
over while my daughter wasn't home.I adopt this other cat, drogun.
I'm like, this is my cat. I actually want to I want this
cat. He's got a good personality. I'm gonna get this cat, he's
my cat. So she comes homeand she goes, well, I don't
have a cat. I'm like,you have trusts. Big Trust is actually
named after your ravens, you know, Big Trust. Come see me,
you know, front of the bank. And she's like, yeah, she

(34:22):
doesn't like me, she likes sheonly likes you. So she gets a
cat named Ducky, and God's Duckyis weird? Dare I say special needs?
Right? He's got like one eyethat doesn't dilate. He'll yell at
you if you don't feed him,like like there's food there, but unless
you put it where he wants it. Yeah. Yeah, like he's cartman

(34:44):
the cat. He's begun violating softanimals and soft blankets, Like he'll drag
them out in the hall, makeeye contact with you and then do his
thing on the blanket. Oh gosh. Yeah, he's a predator. He's
an actual like I'm he So thisis this Literally I'm talking to one of

(35:07):
you, I'm telling you or BostonDan or whatever, and this happens.
So I text you group, thisis not okay. I need like I
need to vent about this. Inthe meantime, Big Trust gets really sick
and passes away. So I wasn'tgonna talk about it until yesterday while I'm
sitting at home playing a video gamebecause I can't watch the Yankees. They
suck, and I hear man andI look over and Ducky's got a blanket

(35:34):
and he is going to work.Oh, he is just going to work.
Does anybody else have it? Andlike he's he's fixed, he's not.
This shouldn't mean anything to him,the fact that he has to show
it, the fact that he needsattention to it. So like I turn
around, like my daughter's not home, I take a picture. I send
the picture. Because you're gross fortaking a picture of that. I go,

(35:57):
oh, typical mom of a monster. Blame the media. Blame the
media because you've raised a monster likestuffed animals in the hall, just looking
ashamed, half my betting down thestaircase because I forgot to shut my door.
He's a he's he's he's a he'sa predator. He's just out there

(36:19):
humping away. Huh, he's doingwork. Gosh, I want to want
to look at people while he's doingit. He wants to get caught.
It's the weirdest, it's the weirdand I don't know if anybody else ever
don't like like dogs hump legs andstuff. Oh it's a dominance thing.
I think it might be. Ithink he's just like, yo, you
don't know what blanket is? Ididn't move. It's like, you know,
I don't like enjoy your pillow laterlike what like? Because I did?

(36:44):
Now it's the weirdest, uncomfortable thing. And then my daughter will come
home and lecture him like he's likehe's like a kid who like left its
bike in the girl in the inthe driveway, like you need to stop
doing that. That is not allright, and he will talk about he
Rareyah. I was like, thisweird cat is so weird and broken.

(37:07):
I can't take it. Do youstill want them? She likes them.
It's the first animal that we've everhad that doesn't like me and likes her.
But she has to keep well,she's her. She loves him except
for that. Everything else she lovesabout this stupid cat. I'm never getting
in an animal because of this story. So I don't know what they're capable

(37:30):
of. I don't know neither theday I guess, I mean, so
they like so I'll give I'll giveher boyfriend credit. He's like, why
don't we just get him his ownstuffed animal. She goes that he can
just go to work on and violate. I'm like yeah, because they'll leave
everything else alone, Like, sorryabout your lunch, snuggles the bear.
It's this is this is your lotin life now it sounds like a forced

(37:50):
marriage. Yeah, you're your Ducky'sgirlfriend. Live with it. I did
bring up forced marriages. I goforced marriages. I'm like, I didn't
call them force. I was harranged. I was like, arranged marriages
work all the time. Yeah.So that that's been my time on air,
quote time off, like to thepoint where Mike Quardo called me like,
hey, we're doing this. Canyou get here? Him Like yep,

(38:12):
right now, He's like really,I'm like yeah, anywhere up here?
I got please here. I gotI got huge vet bills for a
cat that that isn't what to sanymore. I got another one who I
think needs this, Like I don'tknow if the cats get psychiatrists. Can
we have this? Can someone sitdown with him and like talk to him
when he got tell me about shouMatha? Like what is like, I'm
like I don't. I'm my housepantato. And then I've got my cat

(38:34):
Drogon, who's just like he's thechillst dude in the world. He's like,
comes up, laser me pers He'slike, bro, I don't know
what you did. He's like,we probably should kick them all out,
Like it was just me and you, like we finally got rid of the
other one, and let's be honest, big Trust was a B word,
like she only liked me and likea few select people. So Droe's just
over here going like, bro,I'm named after a dragon. I don't
do any of this stuff. Thisis messed up. I don't even know

(38:57):
it. Had a rough week twoon the list. Yeah, I thought
he was gonna be weird, likeshould we call him the sheriff? Like
if you shut a door, heneeds it open. If you go on
the porch, he's in the window, like what are you doing? I
thought he was gonna like the lasttime I brought Trust back from the vat
this is not too long ago.It's been on going thing. He hissed
at me like what you do,Like, yeah, how dare you?

(39:20):
I came home without her? Iwas like, he's gonna be so mad.
I he He's like, what's up, man? You got treats?
You got any treats around? Likewe get it feels like a good cat
nip day. I don't know whatare we doing here? What are we
doing? He's like, chill,I don't get him? All right?
So that's that's my life. Iam a cat dad apparently, and and
I have broken I have a brokencat grandchild. You've always been a cat
dad. But that's right, Likethis is like I finally got one.

(39:44):
He's normal and the rest of themare all like you listening right now may
have thought, why didn't we leavethe show talking around this thing? Why
have no no, no, no, not that not that this story about
to present because we had been rumoredwe are going to do something different with
this story. So let's heel backthe curtain a bit. This is Monday,

(40:05):
July eighth, when you're listening tothis, and a few days ago
the Nathan's famous hot dog getting contesttook place. I forgot to watch it.
Yes, let's discuss all of this, because if you've been following the
show, maybe you haven't. Aquick update every year, including the podcast
format, almost every year except oneyear we've had Joey chestnutt join the show

(40:27):
leading up to the contest. SoLevac and I had a conversation on last
Friday show. So the final showin June, off the air, I
asked Levka said, what do youthink about calling Chestnut? And at this
point, Levac, I don't wantto misquote you, but I think you
could explain this a little bit.You basically said something along the lines of,
Hey, we actually know him kindof personally. Now we've actually had
like a human interaction, We've hadbeers, we've like built something. He

(40:52):
knows who we are. Randomly callinghim out of the blue feels weird than
when we usually do it. Itdoesn't feel like And also like, hey,
tell us more about how you're notallowed to go to the event that
everyone knows because of you, Likethere's the terms press in media, and
then like Lavac and guys like notI think you know what I mean by
that, Like, oh, I'mdoing a media hit. I don't know

(41:12):
who these people are. Hey,I thought we had fun in Vegas.
Why are you guys trying to bescumbag reporters and be the scoop scoop click
click guys, I'm like, allright, you know what, we won't
call chest nunt. Although from mepresenting that, you know who wanted to
click clicks me what we didn't doit. We didn't do it. We
didn't call Chestnut. I also wasn'tI was tired of really doing it.
But I was blown away about thelack of response of what happened for the

(41:34):
hot duck eating contest, because evenme, who was like, you know
what, it sucks that Joey Chestnut'snot doing it, but eventually this time
was going to come. Let's seewhat it's all about without Chestnut. Well
that, like you said it,you didn't even know what it was on.
You didn't even watch it, didn'twatch it just because of the weather
how it timed out at the beachthat day. I was back off the
beach like watching the competition. Ican confidently tell you my dad, who

(41:58):
I thought was gonna be into iteven though it vegetarian asleep. My mom
always fascinated by what in the world'sgoing on in the other room. My
son Rex, who was awake,could not care, didn't care about anything
going on. He just liked thehot dogs and wanted to know where his
hot dog was, and we're abouthalfway through the competition. I'm like,
Yeah, this doesn't feel right.The best conferison I can have is a

(42:20):
UFC fight when it's not the champion, but they're fighting for the championship,
the interim title. You know,remember Cormier used to have this, even
the Cormier was a Hall of Famer, when he wouldn't fight John Jones,
no one thought he was the best. If you don't beat the best,
you can't be the best. That'salmost the backwards Rick Flair. I just
did there, But I was verydisappointed by the hot dog eating contest.
I think this goes back to theMatthew Stony thing back in twenty fifteen.

(42:43):
Hey, wouldn't it be cool ifChestnut lost and then you hype up the
next guy. No, it wouldn't. Hey, wouldn't it be cool if
the competition was much closer and muchmore entertaining? Yeah, but it wasn't.
There's something about anything, not justhot dog eating contests, basketball,
hockey, tennis, racing, andthat I want to see people perform at
the best level of the sport,not there's somebody better who does this.

(43:06):
Let me watch everyone who's second,third, and fourth. Maybe that's how
you felt watching at Levek or didn'tcare, like if chess nuts that not
there pounded down seventy five hot dogs. I don't want to see some Patrick
Burda letting dude do fifty eight.But I know there's a human on planet
Earth who could do seventy plus.I was looking at like the history of
the Dunton competition in ninety three ittook eighteen to win, ninety four took

(43:31):
twenty. Mike DeVito apparently was goodat this, but like you don't get
into those crazy like forty four byKobyashi. You know, three Kobyashi went
on a run fifty fifty and ahalf, forty four and a half,
fifty three and a half forty nine, fifty three to three. Go that's
all Kobyashi. And then here comesChestnut in O seven with sixty six.

(43:53):
Then eat off me. He wasknown like you knew it was. You
knew you were gonna see something thatpeople can't do, like and I and
again BERTOLETTI like fifty eight. Icouldn't eat fifty eight. But Micky was
it. Mikey Pseudo the women's jampshe had fifty one. Mickey Mickey Suito.

(44:14):
Yeah, I don't know, whatever, I don't pay attention she had
fifty one. I feel like shecould have actually competed with the men this
year. The reason that we haveto have men and women divisions is Joey
Chestnut. You know, I don'tknow, bring him back. I don't
know if this was supposed to be, like this is the whole work,
I'll use a pro wrestling term.If this was a work, if this
was set up for this, thenthey thought it was better for the future

(44:37):
of I really don't buy the competitivebrand thing. I think that was they
made the brand competitive because nobody wastalking about them until until everybody Nathan's went,
you know what, you can't behere because you did rep in the
other Wieners. And He's like,what Wieners. Impossible Wieners. It didn't
work. Bring back Chestnut. Lethim eat till he's seventy, Let him

(45:00):
eat until he's in the wheelchair.I thought that would be weird. He
probably prolonged his life and not behe was. He still did something on
Texas. Yeah, see Fort Bliss. He ate against soldiers and they did
that, and he's I think hecrushed like sixty and like five minutes or
something. Let him go back tobeing the best. Let's see him have
a reverse little fortune. At thispoint, I think it's ruined it for
me. I think I'm out.You're out for the whole thing. I

(45:22):
think I'm out. I think Ithink he's got to take on like animals.
Now. I think he's gonna belike him versus a bear. Then
Kosh eat against the bear. Ithink that. But we got to like
find a way to like, wehave to we have to, you know
what. We have to like teachthem so that they know that there is
a competition, because most bears justbe like dude, at least wild dogs
whatever, I don't care, andthen they'll go about their business. I

(45:42):
thought the oddest thing was I actuallywould pay to watch that again. I
thought the oddest thing was not seeingchest up at the hot eating contest.
He was seen it for almost twentyyears. Then other odd things started to
happen. They had a new thingthey added this year called the jugging competition,
where bad Lands booger uh chugged,I say jugged, chugged a gallon
of lemonade in twenty one seconds wellhe does that like every year, but

(46:06):
this time they actually had other peopledoing yeah, like he he does like
a that's like a star your enginesthing he does. Did you also it
is insane? I know you didn'twatch it, But another odd part of
it they had Jeremy Shapp on thecoverage. Like when I think about Big
Jay journalist, when I think aboutthe guy who sat down with Bobby Knight,
when I think about the guy,Oh my gosh, I'm blanket on

(46:27):
the chest Bobby Fisher, like bigtime ESPN interview questions Jeremy shapes PN like
that's what in the world does JeremyShapp doing at the Hot dogg Getting Contest?
Maybe he's like, I don't care, I'm having fun, I'm living
life. Could I just if youtold me the least likely person at ESPN
to be on the Hot Dog GettingContest, Jeremy Shapp would have been number

(46:50):
one on my list. That onlymade sens me if like somebody died,
because you hear his voice and it'slike, you know, it's so serious.
It's like the found we found outthe amount of sodium in tick by
each of these guys. Every fourthof July is enough to kill a person.
They float after this competition is thesodium? Do you think? Like
just like, yes, fans,like, we're done with journalism. You're

(47:14):
not doing outside the lines. That'snot Aaron, You're not doing your radio
show, Jerry, We've gotta behonesd. You're not really doing much.
What what can you use me for? I like, I kind of like
it as a punishment. Hell,hey, where's that last outside of the
lines we were hoping for? Ohguys, no trouble getting it together?
Blah blah. All right, you'redoing the hot contest? Okay, So
Jeremy Shap, Yeah, go gowatch people eat Weenie Shap You Weenie do

(47:37):
it? Yeah. I like.I like that, Like, we're not
paying you to sit around doing nothing. Get out there. We hardly have
anybody left on our staff. SoI can't believe he listen. Maybe he
did twenty twenty three, so Idon't remember him being a part of twenty
twenty three. I remember Gold Juniorbeing the covid ones, but that's it.
I don't like I said I Iwas. I literally only remembered it

(48:00):
because when I was I was donedoing some yard work or whatever. It
was like two, and I was, and we just got new new propane
for the grill. So I waslike, oh, I'm a girl,
some hot talks. Oh no,I forgotten. And then I watched I
watched like a little bit of arepeat of the Bookers thing, and I
was out. I just didn't care. I just don't care. I don't

(48:22):
can you believe today? So Idon't care about how contest. It's amazing
today and next Monday. That's areal reversal of fortune today. Now I
don't even know what data is.Okay, So today and Wednesday or one
of only two shows. Eight ofthe next ten shows are out live the
MAC, where very few times aregonna be in. So tomorrow we are

(48:43):
live in Mohawks Chevrolet. Yeah,live in mack Chabby. This might be
the last time you're in studio forthe next two weeks. It could be.
It really really could be. Igot I got some stuff to do.
What is it we talked about earlierthis hour. We have mentioned it
a little bit, but yeah,a little little football game going on Saturday
two thirty over at the MVP Arena. As we as we see if your

(49:07):
Albany Firebirds can take down the Salineof Liberty on their way to Jersey.
The brawl and the mall, theAmerican Dream Mall. It's gonna be a
blast. I drove by it twice. Yeah, which awesome because you wave
to it. It's a it's quitethe it's quite the specimen, i'll call
it. Yeah, that's a bigthing right next to that life. It's
gonna be it's gonna be amazing.So hopefully, hopefully, hopefully we you

(49:31):
know, our team keeps rolling.We get this done and they're playing for
a championship with that mall. Andif not, I'll be there just annoying
people because I'll be angry, andthat'll be that. That'll be all there
is to it. Everybody, makesure you, uh, if you're looking
for a little boost energy and theenergy you can feel and a great flavor
to it. CE four they've gotthe popsicle flavors now. I like the

(49:53):
grape. It's very good. It'samazing to me how they've been able to
do this. Like we talk aboutall these other these other energy drinks,
and I just they're distant, verydistant seconds to me. I love C
four because it tastes like what itsays. It is. I love this
conversation head over the week with somebody. They go, oh, yeah,
we don't drink coffee. I waslike, oh, you know, good

(50:13):
for you. You got a littletoddler, he just turned one. She's
like, Oh, I don't drinkC four. Kid me, That's what
I'm talking about. Shout out tobell out in Sarah cause she's like,
I only drink C four. Myhusband loves it, my father in law
loves it. Like, do youwant to come on the show and talk
about how great SEA four is.She was a huge fantasy four and we're
so happy to bring back the CEAfour Smart Energy Bank Rule Challenge comes back
this Thursday. Is You and Iwill be broadcast in line from Rivers our

(50:37):
guys Quinning Canta, which, bythe way, I don't know when you're
gonna be on the show this weekbecause Thursday they're gonna be live with the
track for opening Day that's usually yourhit on Quinning Cancerra So if you're doing
a phoner, be in studio.Yeah, I'm not driving up there.
So we're so happy C four isback. Please, especially on social media,
shoot us a picture. You canjoin us C four this summer.

(50:57):
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(51:17):
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