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May 12, 2023 33 mins

H&C get into RHOA star Kim Zolciak’s recent life traumas which includes a BAD gambling addiction, the realidades and consequences of this type of addiction and ways to treat it.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born
and raised in New York City. I love speakers and
I'm a body positive advocate.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm Carolina Bermudez, soy Nika a weinsay, but I was
born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,
and a worker bee.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is life in Spanglish. Welcome back, Carolina. Another week
of life in Spanglish.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Another week of life in Spanglish, Another week of diving
into the nitty gritty of other people's lives, which I
feel is so great because then nobody is diving into
our lives.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
But that is a fact. We're doing the job for them.
They don't need to do it for us exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
We were actually talking about this the other day, you
and I were discussing what exactly is going to happen.
I feel like weeks ago we found out about the
real housewife from Atlanta and how her extravagant spending and
gambling problem caused her to force and no, no, no, And
I brought it up to you in passing and you

(01:04):
were like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what you
didn't even so you don't watch housewives, right or you know,
I watch housewives.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're talking about Kim Zoziak, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Right, right, But like are you? Because I am an
avid watcher of certain housewife franchises.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, Atlanta is mine, okay, okay, Jersey and Atlanta. I
need them to be very problematic, and I need them
to be very over the top. So those are my
two shows. Which ones are yours?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah? See, I get into Beverly Hills, I got too
rich into well, no, their next level. I got sucked
into Salt Lake City for a while, just because that
the one woman who went to Lake City.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I didn't even know that one exists. A carriage.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh, I'm telling you, like, you can get so caught
up in all of these, but this one in particular,
I thought was really interesting because well, I'm not a gambler.
I'll put it out there right now. Do you love
to gamble?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Girl's got enough money to be loving things like that, right.
I go to the slot machine and that's it, and
then I lose two hundred dollars. I am depressed for
the rest of the day.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I agree. So, you know, Mark, my husband loves to gamble.
He's actually really great at like blackjack. You know, he's
very strategic and with numbers and things like that, and
so like for him, I'm sitting there counting on fingers. No, okay, fine,
I hit me, you know what I mean, Like, I'm
not that quick with it. So like for me to
sit at a table, people get annoyed with me because

(02:32):
I am not a true gambler. But like whenever I
would go like.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
If she don't get up and give up that seat,
bro is going to be on?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well no, because then the way that you gamble determines
if the rest of the table wins, right, so they're
relying on you to like know your stuff in order
for the rest of the table to win. So, for example,
and I know there are some people who are listening
that absolutely know this, but there are some that don't.
If you get a seventeen and the dealer is showing
like a fifteen, you are supposed to stay on that seventeen.

(03:03):
I have seen adults get in full blown fistfights at
the table because somebody doesn't know and they're like, oh,
seventeen hit me, and they're like no, you.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Know, the wrong situation into the mix totally.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
So people get really twisted about gambling. So for me,
gambling is not a thing. I don't even do scratch
offs because I remember my mom used to do scratch offs.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Looka you know I scratch offs?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Do you? I'm not down for a scratch off unfortunately. Yeah.
So I'm just like I'd rather save my five or
ten dollars. No, you know, the one that I love
is the crew.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Are you gonna win a million dollars? Then, Carolina?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I know what is the saying? Hey, you never know, right,
so they hook you with it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's such a you gotta be in it to win it.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
You gotta be in.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
It to win it, exactly. So I saw this story
and I thought to myself, how do you get to
this place where or your house is being foreclosed on,
you have an estate sale, you have to like you're
behind in your taxes. There's like all of these things happening.

(04:12):
None of that bana go inside the moohead. But no,
people say, like it's an illness. Gambling is just as
much an illness sometimes, like the people who are addicted
to it, just as much as people who you know.
Some people would compare it to like alcohol or drugs
or things like that, because like, you have this need.
So I am so grateful that I do not have

(04:34):
that desire.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, it's actually you know, they say a person with
a gambling disorder, they experienced similar freaks to the like
if you have a substance abuse disorder. Right, they correlate
to like very very close. And they've put it in
the books as something that is legit a disorder.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right, And so I had just like you, I had
no idea that this woman on Housewives, because that's the
other thing too, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
So put together, right, Like when you look.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
At these housewives you put at the inn in Gosa
at Marca, you know, they're only luxury brands. They're only
showing up in Mercedes, and like all of these like
lavish cars and their houses are crazy, and like this
is just such proof that it is all smoke and mirrors.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
How do they even sleep though, Caroly? You know, it's
like they owe a million dollars in taxes. Girl, the
irs want fifty dollars for me. I am stressed out
and looking for that money.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, Like, how would you be able to fall asleep
at night knowing that you like have so many bills
to pay? Now, A lot of people say that, like
the Housewives, they rent a bunch of their stuff that's
not really their clothing, that's not really their handbags. And
I have to be honest with you. I do I
rent clothing because I have so many things that I

(05:55):
have to go to, like I do new Ly, or
I'll do rent the runway. But this is like taking
it to a whole other level.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, these people be driven in Fendy, Gucci, Prada, like
you can rent that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
See that's what I'm saying. I don't know because the
stuff that I'm renting is like from freaking anthropology or
urban outfitters.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, of the mankind right right right, So.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's not even that high end. But so I did
a deep dive onto her gambling habit, and I actually
wanted to bring up something that my mother told me
about years ago, which I don't know if your parents
have ever done something like this, but I'll bring that
up in a second. But they were talking about how
when she was in the Bahamas once she lost two

(06:41):
hundred and fifty thousand dollars gambling, and I was like, oh, hell.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
That is a bag, Carolina, that's a home.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Wow, that's that is a nice home. Actually, you know
what I.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Mean that's a manschait. I don't know about New York,
but in Texas that could be living good with that money.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean, right, So the fact that like I'm like,
first of all, how do you even have two hundred
and fifty K if you don't even have the money
to pay you know what I mean? Like, so I
guess it's prioritizing, maybe putting your priorities in the wrong space.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's like they have the cash, but they're not using
it for the right thing. Cause I saw a clip
of her, like I think it was Don't be Tardy
for the party where her and Kroy went to a casino.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That was a spinoff Yes, yes, yes, that was their
spinoff show.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And they went up to the counter and he was
right there with her, so I'm not even blaming her,
and they were like, O, can we get twenty five
thousand dollars? And they just went to the slots, Carolyn
and went ham on them slots for hours.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Wow. Like, I gotta be honest with you, I wouldn't
even know how to take money out on my credit
card like that, Like what do you do? Like how
like what is the process? Can somebody walk me through?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
This like, how you don't you want to even and
you know it's crazy because on the show they had
like an assistant with them and they showed Kim at
a one hundred dollars machine and they showed the assistant
and a penny slot.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
To me, it really does sound like she is absolutely
addicted to gambling. There there's no other for me. I mean,
I'm saying, like me basing it off of like everything
that I've read and heard, and so it's like, how
then do you maybe that that's what it is. It's
it's that you don't really have the logic or the

(08:24):
ability to reason, you know, like I need to save
money because she's got like four or five kids.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I think with you know, with gambling, it's it's a
thing of the moment. It stimulates the brain's reward system,
as does a lot of different things.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Did you ever see that thing on Instagram? And this
is not Kim Zolciak, but there was another woman who
was at the slots and she didn't want to leave
because once you start putting a lot of money into
that machine, people think, oh it's going to hit now,
Like I've been here for twelve hours. This machine has
to hit.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But ask me my little with my little dollar machines,
I'd be stalking looking from the side to see if
somebody's gonna sit in it, and if they sit in it,
I watch to see if they hit. So I guess
I could rate myself. I don't know what I'm gonna
do if they do hit on a machine that I
was sitting at.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, no, but this woman ended up peeing her pants it,
but she peed the I have to send it.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
To you because she wouldn't go, because she wouldn't leave.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
She would not leave the machine. And that's why I'm saying.
It's like, I thank god that I don't have something
that has that much of a vice grip on me,
because it has to be challenging, that has to be
super difficult. But like this whole housewife thing, I feel
like it brought it to the forefront because you know,
you hear about men gambling, You hear about guys betting

(09:33):
on like football games and basketball games, and you know,
even these celebrities that will go out on golf tournaments.
And I remember hearing like one time Michael Jordan bet
like a watch or so you know what I mean,
Like Devin like Drake.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
He stays betting all the time. I think, sure he
has some type of endorsement, but he talks about betting
all day long, so like normal, and I don't. I don't.
I don't flinch at it. I see everybody betting on
the boxing matches. I don't flinch. But this Kim Solcia,
I think threw me for a loop. But I'm like, wait,
hold on, she's addicted to gambling, right, But.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's why I'm saying it's like And by the way,
Kevin Hart totally has a legitimate partnership with Draft Kings.
He said, gambling should be fun, it should be entertaining.
He has like a really healthy outlook on it. And
he said, he's like, you know, clearly we want people
who are able to, you know, bet and do all
of these things, like to do it in an entertaining way,
like where you're not like because you can sacrificing your livelihood,

(10:29):
you know, you could have fun exactly like and how
amazing would it be like right now, right now, how
amazing would it be if you like went and you
put one hundred dollars down and you won like two grand.
That would be enough for me. I would be like, dude,
I'm out, Yes.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
But I don't know Aboudy called me till next week.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Right, No, but that's what I was saying. But I
don't even have the like instant or I wouldn't even want.
I don't have the desire to go and do that
because I would rather spend that hundred dollars on something
that is going to benefit me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
See, it's something that's tangible. It's like, Okay, I spend
a hund dollars, but I brought something home with.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Me, right, And you know, I want to get into
the thing that I was talking to my mom about
because I want to explain how this actually has ties
to our community and our culture. So I'm going to
tell you guys what I found out, and we'll do
that after the break. So when my mom was here
a couple of weeks ago, she was here for Asher's communion,

(11:23):
and she stayed a couple of days later because I said, Mom, like,
I could always use the extra help, like the boys
love when you come to their like games and this,
this and that. And that's when this story broke. So
I was talking to my mom about it, and my
mom goes oh no, I'm on kuchuan. And I said,
what is a kuchua? Are you aware of this? Maybe
it's a different name.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I probably use a different word. Explain it to me
and I'll tell you a Dominican word.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
So my mom said, like, so I think the way
that she broke it down, and I wish I could.
I wish I took notes on it. When she was
explaining it to me. You get twelve people in a pool, Okay,
do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I know what you talking about. We call it associated
or a some essay.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Then okay, So my mom was saying elucud persona, he
said familia or you know, your your friends. And every
month you guys decide you're gonna put in let's say
twenty dollars a week, so eighty dollars a month, okay,
each month the pot goes to one person, so everybody

(12:30):
contributes to this. And then at some point, like you
could say, oh, you know, I really always need the
money in April. I don't know, because you know whatever,
I need the money in April because my kids have
their birthdays in April. Let's say, so you can arrange
with the twelve other people because there's twelve people in it.
There are twelve months in a year. You all contribute
the same amount of money and then you get that

(12:52):
windfall basically once a year.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Get that big bag. But it right, it's it's so
weird because it's like you could have saved the money yourself, Caroline,
but we get involved in these weird situations, like when
I associate that on Sushu. They call it all types
of different words. I've heard it, but I've never been involved.
Talk to me, your mom, she'd be in it.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So my mom and dad used to do that because
they had six kids and when they were young well yeah,
when they were younger, when we when we were younger. Yeah,
So so they would always go in and they have
like my mom has five brothers and sisters. My dad
has four. So they would go in with family and friends.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh I love that. Yeah, And you can trust because
that's the reason I've never done it, because I'm not
trusting people with money.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well no, And but you know what, you're all accountable,
like you have to either you either give up the
money up front, like at the beginning of the month,
or you do a weekly thing. Right, And I would
say to her, like, what would happen if somebody didn't pay,
they get kicked out? You bring somebody else in, you know.
So it was like legit, it was the real deal, right,
And so I said her. I was like, I had
no idea that this was like a thing, right, So

(13:58):
she told me, she said, yeah, Daddy and I I
used to do it. We used to ask every December
or January. We were open for December or January. December
because we wanted to buy you guys Christmas gifts or
January because if we charge things then we could pay
off those cards.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
People still do it now, Carolina. They be big though
they'd be like ten twenty thousand. I ain't down for
none of.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That, no, I mean for them, it was like twenty
dollars ye then yeah, yeah, and back then it's a
lot of money. Eighty dollars a month. That's a lot
of money. But I said, I was like, you know what,
that's actually kind of like a bright idea because you
never know when you're gonna need the money. And even so,
like if you get all that money, basically it's just
money changing hands, right like, and it just comes to
you at a certain time when you feel like your

(14:43):
family will benefit from it. So I said, oh my gosh,
I said, gift. I don't want a gosa, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So Dominicans love that, and whoever handles the money, they
always take the first number. I can get down with that,
I'll be number one. I get the money first. There's
always like an issue with where your number lands. But
Dominigans and Puerto Ricans they love doing that. Susu sang
Socia that they'd be telling me.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I'd be like, yeah, or come ivanco, you know what
I mean. I would not want to be doing anything.
I would be taking care of my own money because
you know, people also like that can totally ruin relationships.
So back to this Kim Zolciak housewife. Her daughters actually

(15:34):
were talking about how their mom would just drop just
what bands and bands and bands of money on gambling.
And I'm like, what kind of an effect do you
think that has on them? Like they're either going to
be down to gamble or never be down to gamble.
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Those girls they idolized their moms. I can see them
thinking this is perfectly okay. I saw a clip where
Kim was at a casino for a eleven hours Carolina. No,
I'm pretty sure they know mommy was gambling for eleven hours.
She's passing that down.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Definitely. Well, you know what, there's we were looking up
stats too, because we didn't want to make this seem
like we were coming down on people. No, no, no, it's
just it's very intriguing to me because you know, and
I think that it's because this woman is such a
high not not high profile I would say, a high
profile reality TV star. I guess if that's you know,
putting it, you know, giving her a title. But this

(16:32):
gambling disorder, it affects about a one percent of Americans
who just can't stop despite the consequences. Years ago, Honey,
I don't know if you remember. Do you remember the
guy on the radio, Craig Cartin. He was on sports
radio and he ended up getting fired because he was
pulling like he was gambling and betting all of this money,
and like, do you you don't remember recall that story.

(16:54):
He was a host of a show with Boomers Siasin
and this dude was in so deep keep on gambling.
I think he ended up going, well, you know, I
should look that up before I even say it. But
he did end up losing his job. There's consequences, and
it's really truly like a sickness that people just can't stop.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
But sometimes it I don't know, here I am, sometimes
it pays off. Here's one story you are gonna remember, Carolina.
Remember when Jennifer Lopez's mother won the two point four
million dollars in the casino.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Wait, no, remind me of the story, because I think
I remember thinking to myself, why in the hell is
Jlo's mom winning this kind of money? She already won
the lottery with like Jennifer as her daughter exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I was so mad, I said, hold on, her name
is Jalla Loupe. I think, I'm like, why is why
Lupe winning two point four million dollars and not my mama?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
But can you imagine I's at the Borgata right here,
and I know I think the first time she won
was at the Borgata in two thousand and four, and
then she won again.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Oh my gosh. But what is it like to have
that luck? You know, there are just certain peoples. We
are so lucky because like my girlfriend Christina, my girlfriend Christina,
I can go to any charity function. She can go
to any kind of a fundraiser. This girl will walk in.
She'll put her tickets in each you know, they have
raffles and little raffles forget it, game over. She'll win

(18:16):
like two or three prizes. I'll be sitting there looking
at my one little number, like all right, yan, yeah,
are they gonna call out number seven O three at
the end? Seven o three? And always seeing there waiting,
she will walk up to the stage three four times,
just getting all of the baskets. I'm like, girl, how
do you do it? There are just certain people who
are lucky like that.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I've never won anything, like I always do those raffles
when I go to parties, but I never win anything
at all.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I know, why are we like this? How can we
like it at them? We need to like get something
on our side over here or something.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, but these casinos they be full Carolina cause I
like the slots. I don't do but I go and
a lot of old people are there, so it's like
it's normal. It's not even a young person thing. It's
not even a Latino thing. It's everybody thing.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
No, you know what it is in Florida, though, I
do see like because my mom likes to go to
the casino. She goes to the hard rock. Sometimes I
go to that one too, like but saying like that,
it's sometimes I feel like when you're older, you don't
have the same hobbies that you did when you were younger.
So it's a place to go. You know, they entice
you with gifts and stuff. They were giving my mom
presents and stuff to get her to come back to play.

(19:28):
She got an air fyer, she got a bottle of
gray Goose. I was like, my bottle of gray Goose,
I said, not the bottle of gray Goose. Mom like,
what's going on? She's like, oh, Mandy, I don't want
to nautch you well, okay playa who got it? And they
give her dinner? And I was like, girl friend, are
you a heart roller?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
These casinos they don't make it any easier. So it's like,
if you're already here struggling with a gambling addiction, minding
your business, all of a sudden you get a text message,
pull up tonight. We're giving away this to the first
one hundred people because I've gotten them. I go to
hard rock over there.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Because they do Yeah. No, they in Hollywood Florida, right,
So you know what they're doing because I was.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I get the text messages and I get the emails,
and I'm like, if I was in Florida right now,
I would pull up and do some gambling.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Or they'll give you, like tickets to a show, like
the one time she was like, oh, Pitbull is gonna
be there, and I said, okay, She's like, Mannie, you
don't take it, bet On. You know. I eat and
I'm like, mom, why are they giving you free tickets?
And she's like, because I go and I play, and
so they're looking for ways to entice you. But when
we come back from this break, I'm gonna tell you

(20:32):
what women, what more women are getting involved with, and
what more women are playing And this is interesting to me,
so i'll tell you right after we take this away. Well,
now you know we have to talk about it because
now in my circles, so have you ever played that?
I can't even believe I'm asking you this. I have

(20:52):
girlfriends who have majong and canasta groups.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I've heard the canasta I've heard for like the Latino sense,
I've never heard it like in America. Okay, sods.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
So my friend who is my age. She's in her forties.
She has a magen group, she has a Canasta group.
So these women are getting together two three times a
week now, and they're not playing for like, you know,
a ton of money or whatever. You know, they're playing.
I don't know how you would even bet on that
because I've never played them.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
It's more for fun, yeah, she said, it's.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
More for fun. It's more for like camaraderie. And they're
saying that women now are looking for these like non
strategic forms of gaming so that they can like form
a camaraderie or that they can like get together and you.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Know, it's more like a community thing versus a gambling
addiction thing. I could get down with that, right.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Like bingo. Okay, I'm done with bingo, I'm saying, but
that's what I'm saying. Like, so for me, I look
at like this whole big story and how it's like
grown out of like, yeah, you know this four. I
feel bad for them. Anytime I see people getting divorced,
I feel terrible, you know, because you think of the
kids and all of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
But like when with them Carolina's he adopted her kids,
So how does that even work?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, those were her two older girls, and then they
ended up having like a bunch of kids together.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Okay, so they share some too.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she they had their little boys, I
think after I think they had two little boys and
a girl.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
You're right, the ones that he adopted should be grown women.
Now there's no custody, there's no child support, there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I know.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
She did file for soul custody of the children. So
I don't know if there's like another layer that we
are yet to find out about with this consousiac.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I mean things are gonna keep coming out and
you know.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
These somebody do you think somebody cheated here?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh no, I think he adored her. I don't know.
I don't think so. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Maybe Papa's back in her life.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh want her, big Papa, Big Papa.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's how we got to know Nini was not with that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
That is so throwback, like old school. That's when it
was really good.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
And that's when that's when I got addicted to it.
I can tell you anything about the Atlanta Housewives that
you need to know.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, well, you know what I mean. Listen, you just
said addicted And if you know anybody with a gambling addiction,
and this was I mean, I just wanted to discuss
this because I had never really seen a woman being
put out there. You know, you always hear about men.
You always hear about guys and sports and betting and
all of these things, and this is like the first real,
you know, highlighting of a woman having a gambling addiction.

(23:22):
I thought, wow, you know, we we really do need
to talk about there are women out there that may
need help. So you know, you should absolutely reach out
and get help if somebody is addicted to gambling, like
in your family, or even if you think you know, look,
now they're getting kids to do it on there on
the video games, Like my kids are playing NBA two
K and Noah and Asher were arguing because they had

(23:44):
to exchange money, I guess to get different players and
they were like, oh, I'll bet I said, guys, guys, guys.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Whose credit card is on that game?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
No? No, no, no, no, no, we don't. We don't
put any cards. In fact, we were smart about this
and I'm so glad that we did this. From the
very beginning, we put like an amex, like one hundred
dollars card so they get there's nothing like they are
not linked to our thing, so like on accident, if
they purchase like.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Oh that's that's smart, so.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Then yeah, so then they're not running up our credit card,
you know what I mean. But I even thought like,
look at like they're trying to get in early with
these kids with like Fortnite and NBA two.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
K and skins and all that stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Right, right, So you know, if you know somebody who
has a problem, it's a really easy number, one eight
hundred Gambler. You can chat at one eight hundred gambler
chat dot org, or you can text eight hundred gam
I mean, I don't want to come off as like
being preachy, but I do think that it's really important
for us to like figuring out these these conversations and

(24:49):
highlight you know, maybe this is something that we should
be paying more attention to as women. You know, No,
it definitely isn't.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
And I was looking and the treatment resembles that of
like alcohol use or like substance abuse disorder, and I
was like, Okay, they're really really treating this as something serious.
Like you think like, oh, yeah, this person gambles. But
the more I read and the more I researched. I'm like,
this is serious. They need medication sometimes, they need counseling.
They even have rehab centers where you could go live

(25:18):
at for gambling addiction, Carolina.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
But girl, that's that's because it's literally in your hands.
The phone is in your hands, Like, you can access
this anywhere. And that's the thing. It's like, you know,
with alcohol, you can go to any street corner and
walk in and get a bottle of alcohol. With gambling,
you literally can be on any kind of these apps
or these sites all day long from your computer or

(25:42):
from your phone.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
And nobody will know you're just sitting there. You're like, yeah, yeah,
I hear you, hear you. Meanwhile, you're gambling on your phone.
Can't you do lotto in some states on your phone?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
How elarly?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Is that all of it? And that's why I'm saying,
I'm sorry, yes, all of it. That's why I was like,
holy wow, this is really like something that we should
just be aware of and be open to discussing.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
For sure, because it has long term effects. I was
reading the like more than twenty percent of compulsive gamblers
and the filing for bankruptcy, Caroline. You know, what bankruptcy
does to someone's life.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, I mean, I don't know a whole lot about bankruptcy,
but what I know is just that, like what you're
wiped out, you basically have to like begin building your
credit from zero from nothing, Like how do you do it?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, you're I've seen people do it. You're you're wiped out.
The only thing that stays with you forever is your
student debt. Them student debts, you won't pay them regardless,
And I think like IRS debt, stuff like that, But
I think your credit is shot for like over five six,
seven years, Like you can't do anything once that bankruptcy
hits your credit. And we know you can't buy a home,

(26:51):
you can't even rent an apartment, you can't buy a car.
And then it spills over because then you got to
start asking a familia.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
No no no no no no no no. You never
ever lend anybody money.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
You give them money with the expectation that you're never
going to get it back. Unfortunately, if they give it back,
then it's a bonus. Then that's a win for you.
But if you're giving money to somebody, you better be
prepared to take that lass You did your parents ever
talk to you about that, because my parents would always
say that.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
No, not really. I just adopted that myself. I don't
let nobody borrow money, Carolina, I'm always broke.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You don't need to know what I have in the
bank or I don't have in the bank, because, like
you said, that's it. Unless it's like somebody very close
to me. They're like, I need ten thousand dollars, you'll
get it next month, and I trust them. Yeah, but like, oh,
you could kiss that money goodbye. These people are not

(27:56):
coming back.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I love how you said, I'm always broke. Don't come
knock on my door because I don't have money either.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's that's me nothing, you know, because you have to.
It sucks, but sometimes you have to put that narrative
forward when you have friends and families who are always
looking for money to be buy.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's like I had a nanny and I know we
have to wrap it up soon, but I do have
to say this, Like I had a nanny back in
the day who I absolutely adored. Oh my gosh, she
was so amazing. She had family back home. They were
always calling her la like one needed.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Dentist, expensive girl, help.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
One needed her car broke down and uberg and and
so I finally told her, I said, I said, why
don't you tell them that you you're not making as

(29:00):
much money, except tell them that we reduced your pay
so that you can save your own mind. We had
to strategize because get.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
The culture, how to get the boos of, how to
get the vultures off my back?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I said, people are vultures. I said it get band
sung seeing the netto like what like, what is you're
out here helping me raise my two little boys. This
is way when the kids were way younger. And I said,
you're you're not sitting out here watching TV and hanging out,
You're working, you know. I felt like protective of her,

(29:33):
and I feel bad for encouraging her to lie. But
I told her, I said, if you don't lie, you
will go home with nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I'm glad you coached her. And because that's how I
lived my life, Carolina. That's why I said, somebody very
very young. If it's a food, I will always give
you the money. But if you're trying to go on vacations,
if you're trying to buy bags, if I see you
flexing on the gram, do not hit me for a penny.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, wait a minute, how are you going to go
on all of these occasions and then be asking me
for money so that I'm going to see it on
social media basically a week from now and then.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You're gonna yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And then by the way, if you got a better
bag than me and you're borrowing money for me, I
resent that say, like, wait a minute, I'm out here
using my target Hunter bag that I got from the
Drop three years ago. You know what I mean, like
cause I like, I like to use my stuff until
it's all worn out right and now to the but

(30:33):
you're going to be out here, so you know, I
think that, like this was a really good episode for
us to talk about and and just basically give people
the heads up. Watch your people, maybe check in, like
if you see one of your friends or one of
your family members that's constantly like, you know, playing. Oh
and by the way, did you see that over the summer,

(30:54):
CBS is gonna start this game show.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Called because it sounds like something I might watch.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's like a Mexican game show that they based it
off off of, and I think that it's going to
it's gonna be on CBS.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Okay, so Cbhicano and it's gonna why wash it and
bring it to America?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
No, no, no, no. The guy from Jane the Virgin
is gonna be honest.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Okay, good good, Okay, A Lisa Latino is gonna host.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah. His name is Jamie Camille. I think it is and.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
HEMI I know exactly is it?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay? Yeah, that's j I mean Jamie come in.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You know why watched his name?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Right? I sure did. I didn't watch j in the Virgin,
but yeah, JB it is, well, you know what, look
I like it. I feel like it's gonna be something good.
Maybe we can watch it with the family. And that's
you know what.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
It brings us to the forefront. I'm always down for
something that that stays true to our culture, our roots.
Does it make us look crazy and just puts us
in people's faces. I love when Latinos are in peoples.
I think that's why I was so obsessed with Bad Bunny,
because it was just like, here we are, and you
can't make us go away.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You can't deny us. Well there you guys have it.
When you see Lori Loka this summer, you're gonna think
of me calling himeen Janie.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Guys, you will.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Exactly exactly well, you know what, hit us up on
the Gram and hopefully you got something out of this.
You know, I know that sometimes we're you know, we
have fun episodes. We have episodes that are a little
bit more thought provoking. Some episodes, you know, that are
a little bit of more substance. But you know what,
that's what we're here to do, just to have the conversations.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
One of the main reasons gambling is so popular is
because people see it as a social activity. But we
live in a world where you can socialize in so
many different ways and do so many different things that
if you drive by the casino you think you're going
to go in there and do some socializing, kill that
idea and keep driving right past that casino.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Amen, save that money, I want to said it nao
and always always in.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Case kroly Naneda loan, save your money exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm at the Real Carolina on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Hit me up on a Gram. I am honey German,
and make sure you give us those five stars and
subscribe and.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
We'll see you guys back here next week. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
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