September 18, 2025 • 37 mins
The unstoppable Snow Tha Product - actress, rapper and activist pulls no punches about what it means to be Latino in America right now.
Snow shows up fired up about how the current administration is villainizing our community, the fear sparked by ICE raids across the country, and the urgent need to defend our right to simply be treated as human beings. She opens up about her love for the Dominican Republic, where her girlfriend is from, and the pride she carries in showing her son the beauty of our own countries.
We dive into Motherhood, her parents’ decision to return to Mexico (as it was always the “plan”), and even her own reflections on eventually going back also. Snow reminds us that “we don’t come from Sh**holes our homelands are rich, vibrant, and worth returning to, despite the destabilizing impact of tourism and the double standard of being unwanted in the U.S.
Beyond music, Snow connects with fans through her Vlogs and stays vocal about the issues that matter most. Whether on social media, in her lyrics, or face to face, she isn’t afraid to call it like it is: “I’m OK with speaking up,” she says, while discussing other Latino celebs staying silent in our current climate.
This conversation is raw, unapologetic, and full of heart the perfect reminder of why Snow Tha Product is more than an artist; she’s a movement.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Grass Come Again a podcast by Honey German. Welcome to
another episode of Grass Has Come Again today. I'm so excited.
I've been wanting to talk to you. I've been wanting
to meet you. Singer, rapper, actor, podcaster, activists. Everything snow,
the product is in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I you feel I feel good, man, I'm excited to
be here. Thank you so much for the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Welcome to New York in the middle of the summer.
All right, how you feeling is it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I mean I feel great. You know, my my girls'
family is from here, so like you know, I had
a show last night. They popped out. We're enjoying ourselves.
You know, there's a parade outside. I mean I think
it's a it's a great way to New York.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Is a vibe, absolutely, it's a Latino vibe. More importantly
right outside right now?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Lomnica, I know that I'm a foid hour and nobody
telling us to go to sleep tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Period.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know, how do y'all move? I saw you out
in the off How fun was it? Have you gone
several times? Or just one time?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That that was my first time with my girl and
we went well, it was cool because I brought my
son and he got to see, like, you know, he
got to see La Vega and then he got to
see like the resort things, and he he got to
see just like different parts of you know, DR. And
he's a tiny bit Dominican, so it's not really like
he's like Mexican and Puerto Rican, but his dad side
is Dominican as well. Yeah, a little bit. But I
(01:28):
was like, okay, like you know, maybe you you know.
And he did think it was funny because he like
all the guys looked like he was like, they look
everyone looks more like me. I'm like, yeah, there you go, baby,
Like period.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I saw him surrounded by all the money thos. I'm like,
where are these monkeys? I've been to Dominican re publicly
twenty times and I've never seen that place. Where was that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, that was that was at a resort right or
like near there?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That was like in Yeah, as soon as we finished
the interview, yeah, gotta give me the tea because I
need to go see these monkeys. I'm going to DR
in two weeks where yeah, you normally look it up and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Then yeah, they were so cute.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He too born in California. Mm hmm, daughter of Meicanos immigrants. Yes,
where are they now? Are they still with us?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
They're in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh they're in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yea, yeah, yeah. Both my parents went back back to Mexico.
My mom sometimes comes back. She'll she'll go to like
Texas and she like works or whatever sometimes, but like
really she just her her life is in Mexico. My
dad's life is in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Like did they retire to Mexico or they or they
left a long time ago, they just.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Left, like they It was always growing up the the
it was always the plan to go back, you know
what I'm saying, Like you I've said that lately where
I posted about like, you know, wanted to move back
to Mexico. And then some people have been like, oh,
like you know, because you're America, like you're you're you're
gonna be part of the gentrification. I'm like, here's the thing.
Like for those of us that, like our parents, moved
from very poor places in Mexico to the US, the
(02:46):
plan was always go back, right, It was always work,
build yourself a little bit of a life, and go back.
And and so that was instilled in me, and I
always was very proud of like my roots and and
you know, we're from very small pueblos. Is there's no cities,
there's no Starbucks, there's none of that. It's just you know,
the simple life for.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
A lot of Latinos. That is the plan. You know, Dominicans,
we build our houses while we're here. We're like, so
it's kind of I understand where you're coming from. And
I can understand you wanting to go there too, because
I was born and raised here. But I'm like, if
I had the opportunity to go to Theminican Republic, I
would because especially you know, given the climate that we're
in right now, it just doesn't feel friendly and it
(03:25):
just doesn't feel like it's for us.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And it's and you know, and I've been saying this
for a while, like our our countries are beautiful. They
are They're beautiful. This is the places where everybody wants
to go to visit and to and to you know,
take advantage and resources and everything. And it's like no,
if anything, we should be happy and proud to go
back and to stake our claim on our own lands
and be like yo, you know, because of colonization, and
everything that happened, like we lost that sight of like
(03:51):
how beautiful where we're from is. And I say, we
just like as a whole, like all of us, and
just I feel like it's it's more in for us
to instill that in our kids too. And now we're
we have all the younger, younger kids that I think
now are being raised more by like you know, first generation,
and I have to explain that, for example my son,
you know, I have to take him and show him
and be like, look at how beautiful it is. Don't
(04:12):
let you know, them get into your head that you
know we come from from dirt because yeah, because yeah,
because you know when people are saying like, you know,
we come from quote unquote whole countries, you know, I
because or no, oh no, even yeah sure yeah. When
when the president is saying that whole countries, I'm like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You've been to my country? How beautiful you went to Republic?
How gorgeous is and yeah we have poverty, Yeah we
have struggles, but most of Minicans want to go back.
Yeah we're not in the Bronx by choice. We're out
here making money to either send it back or build
our life back in our own country to the point
that it's beautiful and comfortable.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and that's why, you know, that's why it's also important.
It's like, at the same time that we're defending the
right to be treated like a human being, we're also saying, okay, cool,
you don't want to here. If we do go back,
leave us the fuck alone. That's the thing that's right,
because what we're gonna do is okay, cool, you don't
want us here, We're gonna go back. We go back.
Here comes from big corporation trying to buy out the
beaches and trying to you know, like sell it back
(05:12):
to us, and it's like, how are you like, you
can't have it both ways? You you know what I mean?
If you don't want us here and we leave, leave
that shit alone, and I don't know. It's crazy how
destabilized some of our countries have been because of this country.
Yet this country continues to vilify and make us seem
like we're the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's perfect example Puerto Rico. You know, our president didn't
give a fuck about Puerto Rico, but you go to
Puerto Rico and it's like some of the beaches aren't
even public anymore because you have these people building mansions,
you have everybody going different tax breaks. So it's like
the sea down say, either you don't want us or
you want us. Which one is it? Make up your
mind so I get exactly where you're coming from and
how you feel. Yeah, I love how vocal you are,
(05:52):
and you know when I see you, know how you move,
and you know the way you stand up for us,
And I say for us the same way you say
for us. Because it's a problem we're having right now. Euadanos, Chilenos, Mexicanos, Dominicanos.
We're all at risk right now, these ice rays. I've
been in events here in New York and all of
a sudden, I see a jacket walk by me in
(06:13):
it's ice, and I'm like, this is scary as fuck. Yeah,
and it's like, yeah, me and you were born here,
and we'll probably start talking English. But what about the
person that is not documented, has been here thirty years,
owns their own home, has kids, and all of a
sudden they get caught in It's it's the climate. Is yeah,
depressing to say the least.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
No, it's it's very very very much. Isn't also just
the instability, like the the like feeling unsafe and and
like you said, we speak English, right, but it's gonna
trickle down to us too, because at the end of
the day, like you start, you start going out there,
like you're at a bar or whatever. I mean, I've
been in some places where you know, you got some
random guy who who who who's seeing the news and
now he starts saying racial slurs to either me or
(06:55):
my girl or whatever. They're feeling really embolden right now.
They're feeling like, you know, you know whatever, and you're
just kind of like, this is the climate, this is
what is being embolded right now. And now we're we're
a little bit scared, but at the same time we
want to fight back, but at the same time, we
know how they see us. So it's like, I don't know, man,
We're definitely caught in a weird space. And you say that,
(07:17):
and it's I walk around New York City and you know,
we're the melting pot. But when I see a red hat,
I immediately feel like it is something going to happen,
Like is this person, like you know, has hatred towards Latinos,
Like are they gonna try to come at me, So
I understand by what you're saying, like, we're not safe either,
because it's like anybody, even if you get caught up
in an ice ray.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Right now, you have your citizens being deported back to
countries they never even lived in. So what we're going
through right now is deep as fuck. And you know,
I appreciate you, you know, having this platform, having the followers,
and not shying away from, you know, the issues that
matter to us, to your parents, to my parents, to
my neighbors, because a lot of times we be like, nah,
(07:58):
I ain't gonna get involved in that that it's a
lot going on. I don't want to get canceled. I
don't want people to be like, oh this and that.
And I even see you replying back to comments. I
saw that somebody was like, oh, now you're Mexican, and
you're like, what are you talking about? I've been Mexican
like from And even when you go back with your music,
let's say like when you did the Black Panther soundtrack,
like how long of what was that? And you were
(08:20):
already talking about immigrants.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah? Yeah on that on the Hamilton stuff was Purge
like this, I was talking about Hamilton I'm saying, yeah, no,
all of that and the Black panther on too. Like
everywhere that I've that I've I've shown up, you know,
and it's like, to me, that's what's important, is like
show up for your people, but sometimes to your own,
you know. I could see why people don't want to
(08:43):
talk about this stuff. I could see why the very
famous papra artists don't speak about all these things. Yeah,
it takes a chunk of your money. Yes, you lose
a big chunk of your fan base when you speak
up because you're gonna piss off a lot of people.
But you know, my character is I'm okay with doing that.
There's some people that are so you know, in love
(09:04):
with the money or the pop status that they'll never
speak up. And I hope that one day, or at
least in my lifetime, people start actually holding people accountable
that get to take advantage of all these things and
get to be the representation supposedly of our people, but
don't really struggle with our people or don't really give
a fuck, you know. I think it's it's sad, and
I think there should be a little bit more accountability
(09:25):
and responsibility from people that have the platforms to speak up,
because at the end of the day, it's an attack
through media, right, It's it's the way that they paint us.
It's the way that they it's easier, it's easier to
mistreat mistreat these people now because this dude has been
saying it for years, the rapist, the the you know,
the criminals, the blah blah blah. So now these a
(09:47):
lot of people are like, oh, yeah, well they're criminals
and they're rapists. Yeah. I've even heard Latinos like older
generation people be like, well, you know, I guess if
they're only taking away the criminals, and you're like, are
you serious? Did you fall for that? Like? How are
you not? You know? But it's it's unfortunate, and I
do think media needs to step up because it's an
attack through the media first, and it's gonna be a
(10:09):
matter of time before he starts coming. For those of
us that speak up, we're just growing a bigger target
on our back.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And and I forget it, he don't like that when you
speak up, he does not like that. Yeah, or when
you joke about him, don't forget about it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
South Park is hilarious for that because they're just gonna
keep on doubling down and considering. They thought, you know,
you had Musk saying like, oh, make comedy funny again,
you know, But it's like I think it always has,
you know. I think everybody gets to make jokes and
be funny and be political. I just think y'all don't
like that shit when it comes when it's about them,
you know. But I digress, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But you know some people do stand up. Like you know, Charlemagne,
we work together power one on five point one. He
went on a TV and he said, well, he wanted
to say about Trump, and yeah, Trump came right back.
But I'm like, you know what, it's crazy, you're going
back and forth with the president of the United States.
Like I love this, Like you st to up for
what you believed in. You went on TV, you said
what you wanted to say, and even if he come
(11:04):
back at you, you're gonna come back at him. And
we need more people like that, like you say, like
even if it's just yourself, you don't got to go
on TV, you don't got to go on radio. It's
just what's wrong is wrong. Don't be scared.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And there's a power in numbers when more people speak up,
it it takes like the target and attention off of
those of us that have always been speaking up. And
now it's like all of us, you know, like everybody
can hear it and can understand it. When it's just
a few of us going, you know, we're we're putting
ourselves at risk. But if more people just you know,
in the in the public eye, just if it becomes
(11:36):
more acceptable to just do it, we're protecting each other,
you know. So that's what's important I think right now.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And I thank you, you know for pushing through, you know,
standing for what you believe in, and you know, risking
yourself the way that you say you know you're at risk,
but what you're doing is super dope. And I love
you for it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And I love you for the bars too. You snapped
on Alligator. I ain't even gonna let you that clip.
I feel like so many people shared it. Yeah, it
was just received nicely, and I felt like it was
just latinos. It's like some of my black friends, some
of my white friends, they were like yo, Shoty went.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, I think Alligator was so right. Now.
I have a project I'm working on which I'm probably
just gonna drop, like literally just drop at some point.
I don't I don't even know what releases look like
anymore to like an artist like myself, but I did not,
which is like sad and I'm crying here, you know. Yeah,
like is more like sad and and just talking to
(12:31):
you know, we're just tired, you know, we're exhausted. And
then you have a track like Alligator where it's like
more angry, you know, and then saba tho it is
more like funny. I'm like, I'm pretty much going through
all the emotions that we're all feeling right now and
being like yo, you know, I'm about to crash out.
But like before I do that, like here goes artistically,
here goes the music.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Here, I am having a little fun. Here, I am
a little sad. Here I am snapping the fuck right,
and then before I crash out, it's the project.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, you have a release day when we're getting in September.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think September for sure. Like I said, I mean,
right now, I don't know what the reality if I'm
being completely honest, like what the reality is of like
how releases are you know, I've been rapping for a
long time, so back in the day and right now or
yeah I'm fully independent. Good for you, thank you, but yeah,
like you know, I don't know what this is all
the music industry is like, you know, I feel like
even if you are on a label, they're like, well,
(13:23):
go make a TikTok or like go viral or you know,
and you're just like, what, So right now, I'm just
like dropping the music, dropping the songs, and I'm gonna
put the project out, putting the videos out. And sometimes
the song might have been something I never dropped from
two years ago. Sometimes it might be something I've made
on the spot on TikTok, you know. And I think
(13:43):
being able to do that and have that community with
my fans is like probably the last thing that kind
of keeps me in the music industry still is just
that connection with them.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
When it comes to social media, how much are you
on it? Do you take time off? Are you like
I'm not going on let's say after eight o'clock at
night or you constantly on?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think I am sporadic with it. I'm like constantly
on right now because when I'm not, I'm gonna I'm
gonna say this for real. When I'm not I'm looking
at what's happening, and obviously my algorithms are a lot
more like political, and I'm just pissed, you know what
i mean. Like I'm just actually like feeling so unless
(14:26):
I like disconnect because like I'll go to Mexico or
something and I'm just like not really on it. Yeah,
I'm like on and I'm talking and I'm making music
on live and I'm hanging out with my son on
you know whatever. Everything kind of right now, I don't
know how to feel about about social media. How do
I feel I'm just always on? Huh, I'm always on?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Is it like a form of therapy for you?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Kind of?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
To be honest, it feels like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's like a probably a way of coping with everything
that that I'm that I'm kind of feeling about everything
and just kind of continuously talking and checking back and
forth with my fans about everything, because yeah, I don't know,
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I feel like so many of us feel like that.
It's like we're going through the day to day. We're
doing what we gotta do, you know. We get up,
we eat, we shower and then you're like turn on
TV and you're like, what is going on? And it's
all over the world, but it has one common denominator,
and it is our president here in the United States,
(15:43):
not afraid to say it. And and I hate the
way he zeroed in on Latinos, Latino immigrants. There's immigrants
from all over the world. You know, we have Irish,
we have Italians, you know, we have French. It's Latinos.
The target is on our back, Like what the fuck?
Who hurts you? Like what happened here?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And we're we're such amazing people.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah. I think you know, people who hate Latinos or
the black community, I think it's because you know, they
they're projecting like they hate that they don't have what
we have. And it's in it's in us, you know
what I'm saying, Like you can't buy it. Everybody always
wants to like buy or or or or a choir
(16:27):
or take over or whatever or and copy. But it's
like at the end of the day, like the flavor,
the everything about exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Like who says it artist?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, like all that is like it just is. So
it's like when they're jealous, I feel like, honestly, it's
just jealousy of like, we're amazing, We're growing in numbers.
We know that we're gonna be the majority, whether they
want it or not. That's why they got to make
these campaigns of having more kids and blah blah blah,
but trying to stop us from having kids. But all
this thing, it's like this weird competitive thing when it's
(16:59):
like I said it in a song called Snooze don't
know how many years ago, and I was like, man,
everybody just have mixed babies. I mean, nobody's gonna be
able to be you know, nobody's gonna be able to
know what to do. I was like, black, white, Asian,
let's get racy, like I think, at the end of
the day, being silly about the fact that they're stupid,
you know what I mean, Like making it a joke.
(17:20):
That's the biggest thing. That's what I was trying to
get to earlier with the whole Trump things, like I
feel like us being mad and us being angry. Obviously
we feel that, but making fun of this motherfucker is
gonna be the only thing because he wants to be
this big dictator and be scary and that's why he
looks up to other dictators, and it's like, Bro, you're
a joke. You're a joke. You're fighting your own cankles
right now, like you don't even know you know what
(17:40):
I mean? So I think we just need to make
him a fucking joke and and all of those type
of people. We just need to keep on pushing. We
need to keep on pushing whatever it is, because I
do think if we don't, it's gonna be it's gonna
be one of those you know how he wanted to
take home groans to those U j and stuff. I
(18:02):
wouldn't doubt it, you know, I wouldn't doubt that we
would be one of those times where they start seizing
people's stuff or you know, calling you a criminal or
saying I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
We're in scary times, right, it feels really scary. Like
plus AI, talk to me about AI. What are your
feelings on AI.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I want to make sure that everybody that was angry
at immigrants were taking their jobs. It has the same
energy with the fucking robots, cause they're coming. They're gonna
take your job. They're gonna take your job. They're I
saw the list of the jobs that are gonna be
taken and I'm just like, oh, what are those people
gonna do? People that really went to college and like
are in debt and now that this guy is like
(18:39):
taking like making sure that they pay their debt for
their college that now the job doesn't exist because it's
gonna be taken by AI. And then I don't know,
it's about to get crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's like a snowball effect everything that is happening. But
I did see that list, and it was it was
scary because I'm like, these are careers, these are people
with masters, these are people that you know, have worked
let's say decades in these industries. What's gonna happen? They're
just gonna cease to exist?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know who's not going to fit these suicide carpenters, farmers, plumbers,
h BAC people. Get you a trade man. If you're
listening and you're like a little bit lost and you
don't know what direction to going, we're gonna need you.
We are gonna need you. And while I love you know,
TikTok and streaming and you know, social media, not every
(19:29):
young person can be one of those. Yeah, yeah, make
you a doctor be a nurse, be an engineer. Those
are old jobs that I feel like you'll still be
able to as long as there's like a human element
to it, you'll still be able to work at it.
But yeah, AI can be scary.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah. I say that to my son all the time,
you know, because he has access to being on social
media and stuff, and you know, he sees the positive
that it can have, but he also sees the negative
because he was raised with seeing both sides of the
you know, like he sees how many hours I put
into it, or he's gone and seen me on tour
or you know whatever. And so I'm happy he's he's
(20:09):
okay with like social media not being a huge part
of his you know, you know, because because there is
people who like their whole value depends on how many
likes or views they get, you know. And to me
that was important to show my son to be like, yo,
don't be like that. And yes, absolutely a trade, absolutely
know how to you know, he's at an age now
where he wants a car soon or something, and I'm like,
you need to know how to change the tire. You
(20:29):
need to know how to you know, change oil. You
need to know how to do you know something, because
you never know, you never know what's what's gonna happen.
So if we do go back to Mexico, like I
want him to know how to do stuff, you know,
And we have a farm, so farm, no, like I
just have like chickens and goats and vegetables and trees, yeah, fruit,
(20:51):
trees and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
How long do you go for when you do go Tomico.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The farm I have here in the US, by the way,
but yeah, in Mexico go I don't know. It could
be a couple of weeks. I think. Lately, because I'm
so back and forth with working and everything, I'm not
really going that much. Usually I'll go like a few
few days this last time, where was it this a
couple of weeks ago? We just went like a week ago.
We just went for a few days, you know. Vibe out.
(21:19):
Then also to Loom. I like going into Loom. It's nice.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So yeah, I don't know, to Loom is dope. I
feel like everybody, especially during the pandemic, to Loom. It
was just like I'm like, it's everybody into Loom.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, everybody was going over there.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But during the pandemic, Yeah, now you're here with your
girlfriend today. You're super public with your relationship. Do you
feel like it it's like you need to take it
back like your private life, or you're okay with it
being out there, like sharing her and sharing Drew as
much as you do.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I think I think they say, like, like really like
private people, like or what is it that like you
you can look like you're being really really public, but
you still have some things for yourself, you know, Like
we still have a lot of things for ourselves. Our
fans are very like respectful of like of our life.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And it's a dope dynamic, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I think that that's ultimately, Yeah, I think that's
ultimately what what I like about it right is that
I don't think I'll always rap. I don't think music
will always be like the thing. Yeah, Like I like
other parts of it. So I think that's why sometimes
I show the more wholesome or the family or my
girl or whatever side of things, because I'm like, you know,
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if ever I just I just pot or just you know,
do interviews or stream or whatever like that, that'll be
cool too. Like I want people to kind of like
me like as a whole, like as you know, all
these things, not just like I'm just a rapper and
that's all i can do because I've been doing that forever.
And to me, sometimes I get bored, like I'm a rapper.
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I can really rap now you can, you know? So
to me, I'm just like I have ADHD, like I
want to do other stuff like you know, I just
I want to have fun. That's it. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It definitely humanizes you. And I can see It's like
because sometimes we see rappers and let's say somebody like
Kendrick Les say, I feel like I don't know much
about him. I don't see much of his personality besides
what I see in music. So I see what you're saying.
As far as like you sharing and then podcasting and
speaking to be vocal on social media, I feel like
I know you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
With some artists, I feel like I know their music,
I know nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They have a machine. Let's not forget like there is
some artists that have entire machines, millions of dollars, you know, marketing,
publicist teams full whole, like they are a corporation and
they are you know, stamped. So there's a lot of
people behind that. With me, it's like I'm really at
my house. It really is my cousin doing my merrige.
It really is my brother behind the camera on both
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my music videos and on vlogging and on streaming and
on podcasts. It really is my girl that you know,
comes with me to interviews like right now, like no publishing,
no manager, no lawyer, No I mean have a lawyer, no, no,
none of that other stuff. So it's just raw. It's
just like me and my fans and I dropped the song.
Some of them go virals, some of them don't. We
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keep it pushing. We have a good time, We pay
our bills, we live, you know, and I never forget that.
The main thing that's important to me right now is
my son, my personal life and enjoying my life because
we don't know how long we have, and I just
want to make sure, like I don't know, I just
want to have I want to do everything like I
want to enjoy it because there was a lot of
time when I was in the rat race of the
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rap shit that I lost real moments that I could
have shared, you know, in my personal life. So now
I want to enjoy it all, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That's all I love this and you know you tasted
both sides, so you like to exist the way you're
existing now. No machine behind you, no boss, no nothing.
You're calling the shots here.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, people think I'm like anti label, which I'm not.
I'm anti bullshit and I'm anti like no accountability. That's
the proble. The thing is that right now with the
industry is very like, well, you know, we can't really
guarantee anything, right. So it's like, but I got to
guarantee you music, and I got to guarantee you time,
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and I got to guarantee you those twelve hours that
I spent in the studio and the music video and
showing up and doing the present, doing all that, and
you don't guarantee me anything right. And at this point
it's like, I don't want an advance, I don't want
a certain type of deal structures. So that's why it
just doesn't work for me. But as far as like
if somebody was to pull up and have the right
situation and be like, look, this is what we're gonna do,
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and you got my word and we're actually gonna do it,
you know, it's dope. But the thing is a lot
of people in this industry don't have like the whole
word is bond thing does not really exist there.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It was that was back in the days.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
No more.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Especially with the industry, you know, it can be so
flip floppy. They paint you this, you know, amazing deal
and then they don't deliver. Yeah, but you can't do that.
You cannot give them the albums that you've signed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
For shit exactly. And so at that point when you
realize the power that you have with your music, with
your fans, you know, with whatever, you don't have to
be that famous. I don't have to stream as high
as of certain artists to make the same amount of
money because we are the house, you know what I mean.
So it's like it's me and my family. You can
just and we're there. And it's not even like I
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keep it like I get to pay it out to
the people that actually work. Because there's a lot of
times where I was in certain bigger situations where my
brother was picking up the slack, my cousin was picking
up the slack, My people were picking up the slack
when they couldn't deliver, So then they should get the money.
Now y'all still get the money, and then they have
to take the l with me or I have to
pay them out of my end, Like no, no, no,
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Let's just make sure that whoever's doing the work is
getting paid, that everything's fair, and that we have a
good time doing it, and that there's not always bickering
and back and forth. Just it's music. It's vibes, it's vibration,
it's it's a frequency, it's fans, it's connection, it's human.
These are this is what makes life and music beautiful.
If it's not that, then don't I don't want that
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part of it, you know, I just want connection and
human But now AI and Timbaland and everything that's going on,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That was so crazy, you know that AI artists. I'm like,
what's gonna happen with the music industry? Like, is this
where we're going?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I think it. We do have to push back on
that because because there's gonna be they just signed some guy,
right and he's some like AI like Prompter or whatever,
and it's just you know, some like balding white Man
that is gonna make what female artists AI people that
is gonna steal ideas from other people Because let's keep
it real right now. It's not like it's creating. It's
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kind of taking from everywhere and making something in eyes
and o's. But I think, you know, human beings are
gonna actually literally be under attack, like what makes life beautiful?
You know, it's like people are gonna opt for a simulation.
Dudes are gonna opt for a AI girlfriend that doesn't
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talk back and that does what he says, and you know,
it's like all these things. You're just like, dude, all
the movies we watched where the robots turn on us
and we're literally headed that way. It's weird. It is.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
When Timbaland did that, I was just like, this is weird.
So you just gonna have a whole record label of
people that don't exist. Yeah, what's gonna happen? You're no
longer gonna sign real live artists.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think I think he I think honestly he missed
the mark I value. I think Timberland is one of
the best producers, and I've looked up to him, and
there's the majority of the music that I listened to
is produced by Timberland.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I just feel like, you know, sometimes you know, we
jump on bandwagons and we're like this is how right now,
okay aih okay, you know, yeah, and he's probably let me,
let me be innovative and let me do something different.
But it wasn't received I think the way he wanted
it to be reasy.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, they gotta remember soul, you know, you gotta. But
then again, I mean, Tink was amazing, so maybe so
maybe he just wanted someone who doesn't who listens Tink?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
She she is dope. Now that you mentioned you know,
the music you like? Who are your artists? Who you like?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Who? I'm telling you I literally listened to. I mean,
I'm stuck in a time.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Loop of like what's the year?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's it's Aliah, it's Missy Elliott, it's Brad, it's all
the you know, it's all the dimbo stuff. Really and
like R and B. I really like that. That was
a good era.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, you can't take it away from the artist, you know,
it's just like I feel like that was the best,
the best era in music.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, that's why they keep sampling it and re sampling
it and turning it into more and more and more,
because it's like it was. It just really was such
good music. And I don't know, I like R and B.
I like bass and nice vocals, and I don't like
too much like yelling and stuff, which is crazy that
I'm a rapper, but I can't be listening to that
ship all the time. You know.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
He's like, listen, I'm gonna snap on my own. But
when it's time to bibe out, you want some R
and B. You want some chill vibe. What about what
Latino music? Who were your artists?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I mean every like when it comes from Yeah, I
listened to some Pregaton for sure. I like them bo obviously,
I love them.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I like.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Mexican music, like you know Gang. I listened to a
lot of one and that's classical, right, Yeah, yeah, you
know old check it up from Piazzas Calo, you know. Yeah,
I kind of like older music a lot more and
I love Yeah. I think it's it's probably the ADHD
that just kind of goes back to like like when
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I was younger, maybe, so I listened to a lot
of that music.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, It's like I have this one Luis Miguel album
that I know from top to bottom, and I wasn't
the one listening to it. It was the older people
in my life. I think it's romance. I'm not mistaken.
But that album is just amazing. So I see what
you're saying. Your mind just goes back to, like what
do I have memorized, you know, whether it be in
a Liya album? I feel you because I'm kind of
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like the same way with mo.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, with Spanish music. I think it's crazy because I
listen and now I'll listen to the words and be
like dangn. I was like they were this was you
know what I mean, Like the way that they talk
about heartbreak or like love and stuff. You're just like,
oh shit, like they were really spinning. So I don't know,
I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I love Jenny Jojo Modeo. I cried like I felt
so identified and connected with her, and I was so young,
but I was like, I want to grow up and
be like she was such a badass. She just said
whatever she wanted to say. She existed in her body
and her voice was just fucking shout out, cheeky, this
is my girl. I love her. Jenny Guy, I love
her too, But Jenny I adored. I saw myself like
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my future self and her. So I feel like when
when she passed away, I was like a piece of
me went this might scene to you, but I just
it was when she had the reality TV show, she
said whatever she wanted to say. She was super dope
in her music. No, I still love it.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely. I feel like, you know, with with Jenny,
with with Selena, like I feel like sometimes I feel
sad that Mexican women, Mexican American women, I don't think
get valued while they're alive. And I think a lot
of times it takes that for everybody to find it
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because I remember watching when Jenny was around, and it's
like the way Calaticalan you know, and stuff like that,
and I'm just like, why is our culture so like
ready to always tear down the women, you know. I
feel like guys kind of get allowed to do whatever
they want as artists and have a bunch of baby
mamas and do whatever they want to do. Meanwhile, women
do want they wear the wrong thing once and it's like,
(32:49):
oh she you know. So I feel I feel like culturally,
hopefully we grow and we can appreciate more of the
artists because we're not going to have superstars like like
we used to. Now that social media, you just get
to post and talk crap and say anything like it sucks,
it's draining. And I hope that we all are more
supportive of our people, especially with what we're going through
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right now.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know, we have to it's I fact, we have
to band together. We have to lock hands and be like, nah,
if it's happening to you, So Dominicana, Puerto Rican, Chilena, Venezulana,
pan Amenia's and there is such a power in numbers,
and we're not just one country. We are so many
different countries. Whether we're here in America, whether we're in
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you know, our native land, we're still bonded. And the
attack that's happening right now, it's happening on Latinos. It's
not just happening on Mexico. It's not just happening on Peru.
It's all of us, and we have to understand that
it's a problem that concerns all of us. It's not
just no no no no, no, no no no, because
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we are all getting caught up in what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, and you know, and within our communities too, the racism,
the colorism, everything that happens within our communities. We need
to be able to kind of like fix that while
we're also fighting for this and doing like we're doing
so many things right now, and we're split in so
many different directions, hopefully all in wanting, you know, just
a better world. But sometimes it could be a lot,
(34:17):
which is why probably you know, I'll be silly and
I'll put on a stupid hat and I'll stream from
my you know, love that handcake, that the orange hat.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
What is it a fox?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Right? It's a fox? Yeah, Like you know, sometimes that's
my disconnecting, you know, and I've I think sometimes I
lean on those core fans. Not everybody watches me go live,
you know, like, but I do have a core that
is like those are the people that are like enjoying that,
and I like that because I also bounce ideas with them, Like,
you know, I be silly whatever. And then when it's
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time to go out there and go to the protest
or go help people or go speak or do whatever,
you know, you got to lock in and really remember
I'm an adult, but I get to be, you know,
kind of my inner child sometimes in those dreams. So
I like it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's because you're not one dimensional. It's like I'm like, yo,
she could rap. She's a mom she's a girlfriend, she's out,
she's at a march, she's speaking her mind. She's fucking gorgeous.
Do you do your own makeup or you do yeah?
I don't know why. I felt like I was like, yo,
she's got to be the one doing this because it
just looks so good all the time. I was like, no, no, no,
(35:26):
she can't have a team doing this every time she goes,
because it would be that day. You'd be broke, because
you know, it was glam Squads day. We had the
dimples at though. I felt like your dimples were so
pronounced and now I'm not saying them.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Come chunky. I'm like, yeah, you can see him.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
We'll see after. We'll see after. I'll be the judge
of those dimples after we get off. Not but I
really want to thank you, know for coming up. You're dope.
You're fucking super talented.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I work at a hip hop station, so I'm super
critical when it comes to the balls, when it comes
to the delivery and you're up there sucking up there.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Thank you. Spread the word because thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Back listen anytime.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Leaving me on some lists, I'll be like, no way, really.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, nah nah when it comes. And you know, I
always say, I'm like, yo, you know what part let me.
I'm that person that plays the music. I'll be annoying,
I'm like you, or I'll share it or I just
talk about it. And it's like anytime I get a
chance to bring your name up and we talk about
rappers and we talk about females and we talk you're
on there. Thank you so much because from the moment
I discovered you, I was like, Yo, this bitch is nice.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
The fuck is going on in California?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Anger?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I feel it, I feel anywhere connected. Keep doing what
you're doing, man, Keep wrapping us the way you're wrapping us,
and stay fearless because you are a feeling.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Thank you so much. Thank you for thank you. I
love this.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I really appreciate you for reals. Come Again.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I love thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Grassiers Come Again is a production of Honey German Productions
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Grass Come Again a podcast by Honey German. Welcome to
another episode of Grass Has Come Again today. I'm so excited.
I've been wanting to talk to you. I've been wanting
to meet you. Singer, rapper, actor, podcaster, activists. Everything snow,
the product is in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I you feel I feel good, man, I'm excited to
be here. Thank you so much for the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Welcome to New York in the middle of the summer.
All right, how you feeling is it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I mean I feel great. You know, my my girls'
family is from here, so like you know, I had
a show last night. They popped out. We're enjoying ourselves.
You know, there's a parade outside. I mean I think
it's a it's a great way to New York.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Is a vibe, absolutely, it's a Latino vibe. More importantly
right outside right now?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Lomnica, I know that I'm a foid hour and nobody
telling us to go to sleep tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Period.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know, how do y'all move? I saw you out
in the off How fun was it? Have you gone
several times? Or just one time?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That that was my first time with my girl and
we went well, it was cool because I brought my
son and he got to see, like, you know, he
got to see La Vega and then he got to
see like the resort things, and he he got to
see just like different parts of you know, DR. And
he's a tiny bit Dominican, so it's not really like
he's like Mexican and Puerto Rican, but his dad side
is Dominican as well. Yeah, a little bit. But I
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was like, okay, like you know, maybe you you know.
And he did think it was funny because he like
all the guys looked like he was like, they look
everyone looks more like me. I'm like, yeah, there you go, baby,
Like period.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I saw him surrounded by all the money thos. I'm like,
where are these monkeys? I've been to Dominican re publicly
twenty times and I've never seen that place. Where was that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, that was that was at a resort right or
like near there?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That was like in Yeah, as soon as we finished
the interview, yeah, gotta give me the tea because I
need to go see these monkeys. I'm going to DR
in two weeks where yeah, you normally look it up and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Then yeah, they were so cute.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He too born in California. Mm hmm, daughter of Meicanos immigrants. Yes,
where are they now? Are they still with us?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
They're in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh they're in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yea, yeah, yeah. Both my parents went back back to Mexico.
My mom sometimes comes back. She'll she'll go to like
Texas and she like works or whatever sometimes, but like
really she just her her life is in Mexico. My
dad's life is in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Like did they retire to Mexico or they or they
left a long time ago, they just.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Left, like they It was always growing up the the
it was always the plan to go back, you know
what I'm saying, Like you I've said that lately where
I posted about like, you know, wanted to move back
to Mexico. And then some people have been like, oh,
like you know, because you're America, like you're you're you're
gonna be part of the gentrification. I'm like, here's the thing.
Like for those of us that, like our parents, moved
from very poor places in Mexico to the US, the
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plan was always go back, right, It was always work,
build yourself a little bit of a life, and go back.
And and so that was instilled in me, and I
always was very proud of like my roots and and
you know, we're from very small pueblos. Is there's no cities,
there's no Starbucks, there's none of that. It's just you know,
the simple life for.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
A lot of Latinos. That is the plan. You know, Dominicans,
we build our houses while we're here. We're like, so
it's kind of I understand where you're coming from. And
I can understand you wanting to go there too, because
I was born and raised here. But I'm like, if
I had the opportunity to go to Theminican Republic, I
would because especially you know, given the climate that we're
in right now, it just doesn't feel friendly and it
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just doesn't feel like it's for us.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And it's and you know, and I've been saying this
for a while, like our our countries are beautiful. They
are They're beautiful. This is the places where everybody wants
to go to visit and to and to you know,
take advantage and resources and everything. And it's like no,
if anything, we should be happy and proud to go
back and to stake our claim on our own lands
and be like yo, you know, because of colonization, and
everything that happened, like we lost that sight of like
(03:51):
how beautiful where we're from is. And I say, we
just like as a whole, like all of us, and
just I feel like it's it's more in for us
to instill that in our kids too. And now we're
we have all the younger, younger kids that I think
now are being raised more by like you know, first generation,
and I have to explain that, for example my son,
you know, I have to take him and show him
and be like, look at how beautiful it is. Don't
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let you know, them get into your head that you
know we come from from dirt because yeah, because yeah,
because you know when people are saying like, you know,
we come from quote unquote whole countries, you know, I
because or no, oh no, even yeah sure yeah. When
when the president is saying that whole countries, I'm like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You've been to my country? How beautiful you went to Republic?
How gorgeous is and yeah we have poverty, Yeah we
have struggles, but most of Minicans want to go back.
Yeah we're not in the Bronx by choice. We're out
here making money to either send it back or build
our life back in our own country to the point
that it's beautiful and comfortable.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and that's why, you know, that's why it's also important.
It's like, at the same time that we're defending the
right to be treated like a human being, we're also saying, okay, cool,
you don't want to here. If we do go back,
leave us the fuck alone. That's the thing that's right,
because what we're gonna do is okay, cool, you don't
want us here, We're gonna go back. We go back.
Here comes from big corporation trying to buy out the
beaches and trying to you know, like sell it back
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to us, and it's like, how are you like, you
can't have it both ways? You you know what I mean?
If you don't want us here and we leave, leave
that shit alone, and I don't know. It's crazy how
destabilized some of our countries have been because of this country.
Yet this country continues to vilify and make us seem
like we're the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's perfect example Puerto Rico. You know, our president didn't
give a fuck about Puerto Rico, but you go to
Puerto Rico and it's like some of the beaches aren't
even public anymore because you have these people building mansions,
you have everybody going different tax breaks. So it's like
the sea down say, either you don't want us or
you want us. Which one is it? Make up your
mind so I get exactly where you're coming from and
how you feel. Yeah, I love how vocal you are,
(05:52):
and you know when I see you, know how you move,
and you know the way you stand up for us,
And I say for us the same way you say
for us. Because it's a problem we're having right now. Euadanos, Chilenos, Mexicanos, Dominicanos.
We're all at risk right now, these ice rays. I've
been in events here in New York and all of
a sudden, I see a jacket walk by me in
(06:13):
it's ice, and I'm like, this is scary as fuck. Yeah,
and it's like, yeah, me and you were born here,
and we'll probably start talking English. But what about the
person that is not documented, has been here thirty years,
owns their own home, has kids, and all of a
sudden they get caught in It's it's the climate. Is yeah,
depressing to say the least.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
No, it's it's very very very much. Isn't also just
the instability, like the the like feeling unsafe and and
like you said, we speak English, right, but it's gonna
trickle down to us too, because at the end of
the day, like you start, you start going out there,
like you're at a bar or whatever. I mean, I've
been in some places where you know, you got some
random guy who who who who's seeing the news and
now he starts saying racial slurs to either me or
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my girl or whatever. They're feeling really embolden right now.
They're feeling like, you know, you know whatever, and you're
just kind of like, this is the climate, this is
what is being embolded right now. And now we're we're
a little bit scared, but at the same time we
want to fight back, but at the same time, we
know how they see us. So it's like, I don't know, man,
We're definitely caught in a weird space. And you say that,
(07:17):
and it's I walk around New York City and you know,
we're the melting pot. But when I see a red hat,
I immediately feel like it is something going to happen,
Like is this person, like you know, has hatred towards Latinos,
Like are they gonna try to come at me, So
I understand by what you're saying, like, we're not safe either,
because it's like anybody, even if you get caught up
in an ice ray.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Right now, you have your citizens being deported back to
countries they never even lived in. So what we're going
through right now is deep as fuck. And you know,
I appreciate you, you know, having this platform, having the followers,
and not shying away from, you know, the issues that
matter to us, to your parents, to my parents, to
my neighbors, because a lot of times we be like, nah,
(07:58):
I ain't gonna get involved in that that it's a
lot going on. I don't want to get canceled. I
don't want people to be like, oh this and that.
And I even see you replying back to comments. I
saw that somebody was like, oh, now you're Mexican, and
you're like, what are you talking about? I've been Mexican
like from And even when you go back with your music,
let's say like when you did the Black Panther soundtrack,
like how long of what was that? And you were
(08:20):
already talking about immigrants.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah? Yeah on that on the Hamilton stuff was Purge
like this, I was talking about Hamilton I'm saying, yeah, no,
all of that and the Black panther on too. Like
everywhere that I've that I've I've shown up, you know,
and it's like, to me, that's what's important, is like
show up for your people, but sometimes to your own,
you know. I could see why people don't want to
(08:43):
talk about this stuff. I could see why the very
famous papra artists don't speak about all these things. Yeah,
it takes a chunk of your money. Yes, you lose
a big chunk of your fan base when you speak
up because you're gonna piss off a lot of people.
But you know, my character is I'm okay with doing that.
There's some people that are so you know, in love
(09:04):
with the money or the pop status that they'll never
speak up. And I hope that one day, or at
least in my lifetime, people start actually holding people accountable
that get to take advantage of all these things and
get to be the representation supposedly of our people, but
don't really struggle with our people or don't really give
a fuck, you know. I think it's it's sad, and
I think there should be a little bit more accountability
(09:25):
and responsibility from people that have the platforms to speak up,
because at the end of the day, it's an attack
through media, right, It's it's the way that they paint us.
It's the way that they it's easier, it's easier to
mistreat mistreat these people now because this dude has been
saying it for years, the rapist, the the you know,
the criminals, the blah blah blah. So now these a
(09:47):
lot of people are like, oh, yeah, well they're criminals
and they're rapists. Yeah. I've even heard Latinos like older
generation people be like, well, you know, I guess if
they're only taking away the criminals, and you're like, are
you serious? Did you fall for that? Like? How are
you not? You know? But it's it's unfortunate, and I
do think media needs to step up because it's an
attack through the media first, and it's gonna be a
(10:09):
matter of time before he starts coming. For those of
us that speak up, we're just growing a bigger target
on our back.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And and I forget it, he don't like that when you
speak up, he does not like that. Yeah, or when
you joke about him, don't forget about it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
South Park is hilarious for that because they're just gonna
keep on doubling down and considering. They thought, you know,
you had Musk saying like, oh, make comedy funny again,
you know, But it's like I think it always has,
you know. I think everybody gets to make jokes and
be funny and be political. I just think y'all don't
like that shit when it comes when it's about them,
you know. But I digress, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But you know some people do stand up. Like you know, Charlemagne,
we work together power one on five point one. He
went on a TV and he said, well, he wanted
to say about Trump, and yeah, Trump came right back.
But I'm like, you know what, it's crazy, you're going
back and forth with the president of the United States.
Like I love this, Like you st to up for
what you believed in. You went on TV, you said
what you wanted to say, and even if he come
(11:04):
back at you, you're gonna come back at him. And
we need more people like that, like you say, like
even if it's just yourself, you don't got to go
on TV, you don't got to go on radio. It's
just what's wrong is wrong. Don't be scared.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And there's a power in numbers when more people speak up,
it it takes like the target and attention off of
those of us that have always been speaking up. And
now it's like all of us, you know, like everybody
can hear it and can understand it. When it's just
a few of us going, you know, we're we're putting
ourselves at risk. But if more people just you know,
in the in the public eye, just if it becomes
(11:36):
more acceptable to just do it, we're protecting each other,
you know. So that's what's important I think right now.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And I thank you, you know for pushing through, you know,
standing for what you believe in, and you know, risking
yourself the way that you say you know you're at risk,
but what you're doing is super dope. And I love
you for it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And I love you for the bars too. You snapped
on Alligator. I ain't even gonna let you that clip.
I feel like so many people shared it. Yeah, it
was just received nicely, and I felt like it was
just latinos. It's like some of my black friends, some
of my white friends, they were like yo, Shoty went.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, I think Alligator was so right. Now.
I have a project I'm working on which I'm probably
just gonna drop, like literally just drop at some point.
I don't I don't even know what releases look like
anymore to like an artist like myself, but I did not,
which is like sad and I'm crying here, you know. Yeah,
like is more like sad and and just talking to
(12:31):
you know, we're just tired, you know, we're exhausted. And
then you have a track like Alligator where it's like
more angry, you know, and then saba tho it is
more like funny. I'm like, I'm pretty much going through
all the emotions that we're all feeling right now and
being like yo, you know, I'm about to crash out.
But like before I do that, like here goes artistically,
here goes the music.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Here, I am having a little fun. Here, I am
a little sad. Here I am snapping the fuck right,
and then before I crash out, it's the project.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, you have a release day when we're getting in September.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think September for sure. Like I said, I mean,
right now, I don't know what the reality if I'm
being completely honest, like what the reality is of like
how releases are you know, I've been rapping for a
long time, so back in the day and right now or
yeah I'm fully independent. Good for you, thank you, but yeah,
like you know, I don't know what this is all
the music industry is like, you know, I feel like
even if you are on a label, they're like, well,
(13:23):
go make a TikTok or like go viral or you know,
and you're just like, what, So right now, I'm just
like dropping the music, dropping the songs, and I'm gonna
put the project out, putting the videos out. And sometimes
the song might have been something I never dropped from
two years ago. Sometimes it might be something I've made
on the spot on TikTok, you know. And I think
(13:43):
being able to do that and have that community with
my fans is like probably the last thing that kind
of keeps me in the music industry still is just
that connection with them.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
When it comes to social media, how much are you
on it? Do you take time off? Are you like
I'm not going on let's say after eight o'clock at
night or you constantly on?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think I am sporadic with it. I'm like constantly
on right now because when I'm not, I'm gonna I'm
gonna say this for real. When I'm not I'm looking
at what's happening, and obviously my algorithms are a lot
more like political, and I'm just pissed, you know what
i mean. Like I'm just actually like feeling so unless
(14:26):
I like disconnect because like I'll go to Mexico or
something and I'm just like not really on it. Yeah,
I'm like on and I'm talking and I'm making music
on live and I'm hanging out with my son on
you know whatever. Everything kind of right now, I don't
know how to feel about about social media. How do
I feel I'm just always on? Huh, I'm always on?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Is it like a form of therapy for you?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Kind of?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
To be honest, it feels like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's like a probably a way of coping with everything
that that I'm that I'm kind of feeling about everything
and just kind of continuously talking and checking back and
forth with my fans about everything, because yeah, I don't know,
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I feel like so many of us feel like that.
It's like we're going through the day to day. We're
doing what we gotta do, you know. We get up,
we eat, we shower and then you're like turn on
TV and you're like, what is going on? And it's
all over the world, but it has one common denominator,
and it is our president here in the United States,
(15:43):
not afraid to say it. And and I hate the
way he zeroed in on Latinos, Latino immigrants. There's immigrants
from all over the world. You know, we have Irish,
we have Italians, you know, we have French. It's Latinos.
The target is on our back, Like what the fuck?
Who hurts you? Like what happened here?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And we're we're such amazing people.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah. I think you know, people who hate Latinos or
the black community, I think it's because you know, they
they're projecting like they hate that they don't have what
we have. And it's in it's in us, you know
what I'm saying, Like you can't buy it. Everybody always
wants to like buy or or or or a choir
(16:27):
or take over or whatever or and copy. But it's
like at the end of the day, like the flavor,
the everything about exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Like who says it artist?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, like all that is like it just is. So
it's like when they're jealous, I feel like, honestly, it's
just jealousy of like, we're amazing, We're growing in numbers.
We know that we're gonna be the majority, whether they
want it or not. That's why they got to make
these campaigns of having more kids and blah blah blah,
but trying to stop us from having kids. But all
this thing, it's like this weird competitive thing when it's
(16:59):
like I said it in a song called Snooze don't
know how many years ago, and I was like, man,
everybody just have mixed babies. I mean, nobody's gonna be
able to be you know, nobody's gonna be able to
know what to do. I was like, black, white, Asian,
let's get racy, like I think, at the end of
the day, being silly about the fact that they're stupid,
you know what I mean, Like making it a joke.
(17:20):
That's the biggest thing. That's what I was trying to
get to earlier with the whole Trump things, like I
feel like us being mad and us being angry. Obviously
we feel that, but making fun of this motherfucker is
gonna be the only thing because he wants to be
this big dictator and be scary and that's why he
looks up to other dictators, and it's like, Bro, you're
a joke. You're a joke. You're fighting your own cankles
right now, like you don't even know you know what
(17:40):
I mean? So I think we just need to make
him a fucking joke and and all of those type
of people. We just need to keep on pushing. We
need to keep on pushing whatever it is, because I
do think if we don't, it's gonna be it's gonna
be one of those you know how he wanted to
take home groans to those U j and stuff. I
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wouldn't doubt it, you know, I wouldn't doubt that we
would be one of those times where they start seizing
people's stuff or you know, calling you a criminal or
saying I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
We're in scary times, right, it feels really scary. Like
plus AI, talk to me about AI. What are your
feelings on AI.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I want to make sure that everybody that was angry
at immigrants were taking their jobs. It has the same
energy with the fucking robots, cause they're coming. They're gonna
take your job. They're gonna take your job. They're I
saw the list of the jobs that are gonna be
taken and I'm just like, oh, what are those people
gonna do? People that really went to college and like
are in debt and now that this guy is like
(18:39):
taking like making sure that they pay their debt for
their college that now the job doesn't exist because it's
gonna be taken by AI. And then I don't know,
it's about to get crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's like a snowball effect everything that is happening. But
I did see that list, and it was it was
scary because I'm like, these are careers, these are people
with masters, these are people that you know, have worked
let's say decades in these industries. What's gonna happen? They're
just gonna cease to exist?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know who's not going to fit these suicide carpenters, farmers, plumbers,
h BAC people. Get you a trade man. If you're
listening and you're like a little bit lost and you
don't know what direction to going, we're gonna need you.
We are gonna need you. And while I love you know,
TikTok and streaming and you know, social media, not every
(19:29):
young person can be one of those. Yeah, yeah, make
you a doctor be a nurse, be an engineer. Those
are old jobs that I feel like you'll still be
able to as long as there's like a human element
to it, you'll still be able to work at it.
But yeah, AI can be scary.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah. I say that to my son all the time,
you know, because he has access to being on social
media and stuff, and you know, he sees the positive
that it can have, but he also sees the negative
because he was raised with seeing both sides of the
you know, like he sees how many hours I put
into it, or he's gone and seen me on tour
or you know whatever. And so I'm happy he's he's
(20:09):
okay with like social media not being a huge part
of his you know, you know, because because there is
people who like their whole value depends on how many
likes or views they get, you know. And to me
that was important to show my son to be like, yo,
don't be like that. And yes, absolutely a trade, absolutely
know how to you know, he's at an age now
where he wants a car soon or something, and I'm like,
you need to know how to change the tire. You
(20:29):
need to know how to you know, change oil. You
need to know how to do you know something, because
you never know, you never know what's what's gonna happen.
So if we do go back to Mexico, like I
want him to know how to do stuff, you know,
And we have a farm, so farm, no, like I
just have like chickens and goats and vegetables and trees, yeah, fruit,
(20:51):
trees and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
How long do you go for when you do go Tomico.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The farm I have here in the US, by the way,
but yeah, in Mexico go I don't know. It could
be a couple of weeks. I think. Lately, because I'm
so back and forth with working and everything, I'm not
really going that much. Usually I'll go like a few
few days this last time, where was it this a
couple of weeks ago? We just went like a week ago.
We just went for a few days, you know. Vibe out.
(21:19):
Then also to Loom. I like going into Loom. It's nice.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So yeah, I don't know, to Loom is dope. I
feel like everybody, especially during the pandemic, to Loom. It
was just like I'm like, it's everybody into Loom.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, everybody was going over there.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But during the pandemic, Yeah, now you're here with your
girlfriend today. You're super public with your relationship. Do you
feel like it it's like you need to take it
back like your private life, or you're okay with it
being out there, like sharing her and sharing Drew as
much as you do.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I think I think they say, like, like really like
private people, like or what is it that like you
you can look like you're being really really public, but
you still have some things for yourself, you know, Like
we still have a lot of things for ourselves. Our
fans are very like respectful of like of our life.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And it's a dope dynamic, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I think that that's ultimately, Yeah, I think that's
ultimately what what I like about it right is that
I don't think I'll always rap. I don't think music
will always be like the thing. Yeah, Like I like
other parts of it. So I think that's why sometimes
I show the more wholesome or the family or my
girl or whatever side of things, because I'm like, you know,
(22:34):
if ever I just I just pot or just you know,
do interviews or stream or whatever like that, that'll be
cool too. Like I want people to kind of like
me like as a whole, like as you know, all
these things, not just like I'm just a rapper and
that's all i can do because I've been doing that forever.
And to me, sometimes I get bored, like I'm a rapper.
(22:55):
I can really rap now you can, you know? So
to me, I'm just like I have ADHD, like I
want to do other stuff like you know, I just
I want to have fun. That's it. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It definitely humanizes you. And I can see It's like
because sometimes we see rappers and let's say somebody like
Kendrick Les say, I feel like I don't know much
about him. I don't see much of his personality besides
what I see in music. So I see what you're saying.
As far as like you sharing and then podcasting and
speaking to be vocal on social media, I feel like
I know you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
With some artists, I feel like I know their music,
I know nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They have a machine. Let's not forget like there is
some artists that have entire machines, millions of dollars, you know, marketing,
publicist teams full whole, like they are a corporation and
they are you know, stamped. So there's a lot of
people behind that. With me, it's like I'm really at
my house. It really is my cousin doing my merrige.
It really is my brother behind the camera on both
(23:48):
my music videos and on vlogging and on streaming and
on podcasts. It really is my girl that you know,
comes with me to interviews like right now, like no publishing,
no manager, no lawyer, No I mean have a lawyer, no, no,
none of that other stuff. So it's just raw. It's
just like me and my fans and I dropped the song.
Some of them go virals, some of them don't. We
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keep it pushing. We have a good time, We pay
our bills, we live, you know, and I never forget that.
The main thing that's important to me right now is
my son, my personal life and enjoying my life because
we don't know how long we have, and I just
want to make sure, like I don't know, I just
want to have I want to do everything like I
want to enjoy it because there was a lot of
time when I was in the rat race of the
(24:28):
rap shit that I lost real moments that I could
have shared, you know, in my personal life. So now
I want to enjoy it all, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That's all I love this and you know you tasted
both sides, so you like to exist the way you're
existing now. No machine behind you, no boss, no nothing.
You're calling the shots here.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, people think I'm like anti label, which I'm not.
I'm anti bullshit and I'm anti like no accountability. That's
the proble. The thing is that right now with the
industry is very like, well, you know, we can't really
guarantee anything, right. So it's like, but I got to
guarantee you music, and I got to guarantee you time,
(25:10):
and I got to guarantee you those twelve hours that
I spent in the studio and the music video and
showing up and doing the present, doing all that, and
you don't guarantee me anything right. And at this point
it's like, I don't want an advance, I don't want
a certain type of deal structures. So that's why it
just doesn't work for me. But as far as like
if somebody was to pull up and have the right
situation and be like, look, this is what we're gonna do,
(25:31):
and you got my word and we're actually gonna do it,
you know, it's dope. But the thing is a lot
of people in this industry don't have like the whole
word is bond thing does not really exist there.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It was that was back in the days.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
No more.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Especially with the industry, you know, it can be so
flip floppy. They paint you this, you know, amazing deal
and then they don't deliver. Yeah, but you can't do that.
You cannot give them the albums that you've signed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
For shit exactly. And so at that point when you
realize the power that you have with your music, with
your fans, you know, with whatever, you don't have to
be that famous. I don't have to stream as high
as of certain artists to make the same amount of
money because we are the house, you know what I mean.
So it's like it's me and my family. You can
just and we're there. And it's not even like I
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keep it like I get to pay it out to
the people that actually work. Because there's a lot of
times where I was in certain bigger situations where my
brother was picking up the slack, my cousin was picking
up the slack, My people were picking up the slack
when they couldn't deliver, So then they should get the money.
Now y'all still get the money, and then they have
to take the l with me or I have to
pay them out of my end, Like no, no, no,
(26:38):
Let's just make sure that whoever's doing the work is
getting paid, that everything's fair, and that we have a
good time doing it, and that there's not always bickering
and back and forth. Just it's music. It's vibes, it's vibration,
it's it's a frequency, it's fans, it's connection, it's human.
These are this is what makes life and music beautiful.
If it's not that, then don't I don't want that
(26:58):
part of it, you know, I just want connection and
human But now AI and Timbaland and everything that's going on,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That was so crazy, you know that AI artists. I'm like,
what's gonna happen with the music industry? Like, is this
where we're going?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I think it. We do have to push back on
that because because there's gonna be they just signed some guy,
right and he's some like AI like Prompter or whatever,
and it's just you know, some like balding white Man
that is gonna make what female artists AI people that
is gonna steal ideas from other people Because let's keep
it real right now. It's not like it's creating. It's
(27:34):
kind of taking from everywhere and making something in eyes
and o's. But I think, you know, human beings are
gonna actually literally be under attack, like what makes life beautiful?
You know, it's like people are gonna opt for a simulation.
Dudes are gonna opt for a AI girlfriend that doesn't
(27:55):
talk back and that does what he says, and you know,
it's like all these things. You're just like, dude, all
the movies we watched where the robots turn on us
and we're literally headed that way. It's weird. It is.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
When Timbaland did that, I was just like, this is weird.
So you just gonna have a whole record label of
people that don't exist. Yeah, what's gonna happen? You're no
longer gonna sign real live artists.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think I think he I think honestly he missed
the mark I value. I think Timberland is one of
the best producers, and I've looked up to him, and
there's the majority of the music that I listened to
is produced by Timberland.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I just feel like, you know, sometimes you know, we
jump on bandwagons and we're like this is how right now,
okay aih okay, you know, yeah, and he's probably let me,
let me be innovative and let me do something different.
But it wasn't received I think the way he wanted
it to be reasy.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, they gotta remember soul, you know, you gotta. But
then again, I mean, Tink was amazing, so maybe so
maybe he just wanted someone who doesn't who listens Tink?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
She she is dope. Now that you mentioned you know,
the music you like? Who are your artists? Who you like?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Who? I'm telling you I literally listened to. I mean,
I'm stuck in a time.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Loop of like what's the year?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's it's Aliah, it's Missy Elliott, it's Brad, it's all
the you know, it's all the dimbo stuff. Really and
like R and B. I really like that. That was
a good era.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, you can't take it away from the artist, you know,
it's just like I feel like that was the best,
the best era in music.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, that's why they keep sampling it and re sampling
it and turning it into more and more and more,
because it's like it was. It just really was such
good music. And I don't know, I like R and B.
I like bass and nice vocals, and I don't like
too much like yelling and stuff, which is crazy that
I'm a rapper, but I can't be listening to that
ship all the time. You know.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
He's like, listen, I'm gonna snap on my own. But
when it's time to bibe out, you want some R
and B. You want some chill vibe. What about what
Latino music? Who were your artists?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I mean every like when it comes from Yeah, I
listened to some Pregaton for sure. I like them bo obviously,
I love them.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I like.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Mexican music, like you know Gang. I listened to a
lot of one and that's classical, right, Yeah, yeah, you
know old check it up from Piazzas Calo, you know. Yeah,
I kind of like older music a lot more and
I love Yeah. I think it's it's probably the ADHD
that just kind of goes back to like like when
(30:41):
I was younger, maybe, so I listened to a lot
of that music.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, It's like I have this one Luis Miguel album
that I know from top to bottom, and I wasn't
the one listening to it. It was the older people
in my life. I think it's romance. I'm not mistaken.
But that album is just amazing. So I see what
you're saying. Your mind just goes back to, like what
do I have memorized, you know, whether it be in
a Liya album? I feel you because I'm kind of
(31:06):
like the same way with mo.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, with Spanish music. I think it's crazy because I
listen and now I'll listen to the words and be
like dangn. I was like they were this was you
know what I mean, Like the way that they talk
about heartbreak or like love and stuff. You're just like,
oh shit, like they were really spinning. So I don't know,
I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I love Jenny Jojo Modeo. I cried like I felt
so identified and connected with her, and I was so young,
but I was like, I want to grow up and
be like she was such a badass. She just said
whatever she wanted to say. She existed in her body
and her voice was just fucking shout out, cheeky, this
is my girl. I love her. Jenny Guy, I love
her too, But Jenny I adored. I saw myself like
(31:54):
my future self and her. So I feel like when
when she passed away, I was like a piece of
me went this might scene to you, but I just
it was when she had the reality TV show, she
said whatever she wanted to say. She was super dope
in her music. No, I still love it.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely. I feel like, you know, with with Jenny,
with with Selena, like I feel like sometimes I feel
sad that Mexican women, Mexican American women, I don't think
get valued while they're alive. And I think a lot
of times it takes that for everybody to find it
(32:28):
because I remember watching when Jenny was around, and it's
like the way Calaticalan you know, and stuff like that,
and I'm just like, why is our culture so like
ready to always tear down the women, you know. I
feel like guys kind of get allowed to do whatever
they want as artists and have a bunch of baby
mamas and do whatever they want to do. Meanwhile, women
do want they wear the wrong thing once and it's like,
(32:49):
oh she you know. So I feel I feel like culturally,
hopefully we grow and we can appreciate more of the
artists because we're not going to have superstars like like
we used to. Now that social media, you just get
to post and talk crap and say anything like it sucks,
it's draining. And I hope that we all are more
supportive of our people, especially with what we're going through
(33:09):
right now.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know, we have to it's I fact, we have
to band together. We have to lock hands and be like, nah,
if it's happening to you, So Dominicana, Puerto Rican, Chilena, Venezulana,
pan Amenia's and there is such a power in numbers,
and we're not just one country. We are so many
different countries. Whether we're here in America, whether we're in
(33:32):
you know, our native land, we're still bonded. And the
attack that's happening right now, it's happening on Latinos. It's
not just happening on Mexico. It's not just happening on Peru.
It's all of us, and we have to understand that
it's a problem that concerns all of us. It's not
just no no no no, no, no no no, because
(33:54):
we are all getting caught up in what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, and you know, and within our communities too, the racism,
the colorism, everything that happens within our communities. We need
to be able to kind of like fix that while
we're also fighting for this and doing like we're doing
so many things right now, and we're split in so
many different directions, hopefully all in wanting, you know, just
a better world. But sometimes it could be a lot,
(34:17):
which is why probably you know, I'll be silly and
I'll put on a stupid hat and I'll stream from
my you know, love that handcake, that the orange hat.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
What is it a fox?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Right? It's a fox? Yeah, Like you know, sometimes that's
my disconnecting, you know, and I've I think sometimes I
lean on those core fans. Not everybody watches me go live,
you know, like, but I do have a core that
is like those are the people that are like enjoying that,
and I like that because I also bounce ideas with them, Like,
you know, I be silly whatever. And then when it's
(34:50):
time to go out there and go to the protest
or go help people or go speak or do whatever,
you know, you got to lock in and really remember
I'm an adult, but I get to be, you know,
kind of my inner child sometimes in those dreams. So
I like it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's because you're not one dimensional. It's like I'm like, yo,
she could rap. She's a mom she's a girlfriend, she's out,
she's at a march, she's speaking her mind. She's fucking gorgeous.
Do you do your own makeup or you do yeah?
I don't know why. I felt like I was like, yo,
she's got to be the one doing this because it
just looks so good all the time. I was like, no, no, no,
(35:26):
she can't have a team doing this every time she goes,
because it would be that day. You'd be broke, because
you know, it was glam Squads day. We had the
dimples at though. I felt like your dimples were so
pronounced and now I'm not saying them.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Come chunky. I'm like, yeah, you can see him.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
We'll see after. We'll see after. I'll be the judge
of those dimples after we get off. Not but I
really want to thank you, know for coming up. You're dope.
You're fucking super talented.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I work at a hip hop station, so I'm super
critical when it comes to the balls, when it comes
to the delivery and you're up there sucking up there.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Thank you. Spread the word because thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Back listen anytime.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Leaving me on some lists, I'll be like, no way, really.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, nah nah when it comes. And you know, I
always say, I'm like, yo, you know what part let me.
I'm that person that plays the music. I'll be annoying,
I'm like you, or I'll share it or I just
talk about it. And it's like anytime I get a
chance to bring your name up and we talk about
rappers and we talk about females and we talk you're
on there. Thank you so much because from the moment
I discovered you, I was like, Yo, this bitch is nice.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
The fuck is going on in California?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Anger?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I feel it, I feel anywhere connected. Keep doing what
you're doing, man, Keep wrapping us the way you're wrapping us,
and stay fearless because you are a feeling.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Thank you so much. Thank you for thank you. I
love this.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I really appreciate you for reals. Come Again.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I love thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
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