August 5, 2022 • 30 mins
Will Smith FINALLY apologized to Chris Rock, the ladies discuss that AND what it means to ACTUALLY apologize and mean it.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm Honey German. My parents are Dominican. I was born
and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
I'm a body positive advocate. I'm Caroline Bermudez, but I
was born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,
and a worker being. This is life in English. Well,
it finally happened, honey, And you know, I think a
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lot of people were waiting for this apology to happen,
and I have some thoughts on it, but I wanted
to hear what your mind frame was when you heard
the apology from Will Smith to Chris Rock this like
past week. I was like, now you're gonna apologize. This
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is wild late. I don't know. I just didn't even
think an apology was coming at this point. I'm not
even gonna lie to you. I thought it was very
strategic that this video, which was uploaded to Will Smith's Instagram.
That's the thing. I don't want to discount his apology
because like we'll get into that whole conversation in just
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a bit. But I did think that it was a
little sneaky that it was released on a Friday, right
around ten am, you know, when the news cycle is
really not pumping. Because what a lot of people don't
know is that in Hollywood, your publicists and your managers
and your agents all work together when you have a
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conflict like this. I guess I could say, Gar, there
is a white board. Oh for sure, there are brainstorming meetings,
there are behind the scenes meetings, and so I just
thought this was something that was very strategic for them
to have released it on his Instagram on a Friday,
like I said, like right in the morning, smacked out
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in the middle of the morning where it would get
lost in the sauce. And so that's why I said,
I don't want to take anything away from the apology
because I did feel like it was sincere. But I
don't know, I feel like not enough people are talking
about it, and not everybody saw it. Really, I felt
like that was like the only thing I saw. Maybe
my feed was just in a frenzy over finally Will
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Smith apologizes. I felt like everybody was just vultures on
that one story. I don't know. I felt like my
Friday was kind of slow and that's the only thing
I was seeing. Crazy, Yeah, I mean, and I know
that Instagram has been working with different algorithms. So for me,
I was watching like random people doing mail art and uh,
you know, funny hood binds and stuff like that, which
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I was like, Okay, I don't even follow these people,
but cool. So for me, I feel like it really
did get lost. But in case you missed it, and
in case you didn't see the Will Smith apology, here's
what he had to say. So I will I will
say to you, Uh, Chris, I apologize to you. My
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behavior was unacceptable and I'm here whenever you're ready to talk. Okay,
So now let's give our thoughts on first off, the apology.
I feel like this was a very long video for
somebody to upload to Instagram. I personally felt it it
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was long. I was like, oh my gosh, how long
is this gonna go. I did think it was very structured.
I think he absolutely got some guidance on how to
approach this, and it was more of like a Q
and A type style, like where he was responding to
people who have maybe commented on his Instagram or sent
him questions. So I did feel like he got to
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the meat of the issue. I felt like it was sincere,
but I just don't know. I feel like there's just
still something so hollywood to it. What were your thoughts, Well,
you could definitely tell it was rehearsed. The man had
what three months to put this apology together. The lighting
was perfect, you know, his demeanor. It just felt good,
nice and calm, a little bit fluid. I don't why
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I wasn't with it, because I'm like, yo, you should
have done this privately, and it was long. Like you said,
it just felt like a production overall. Well, I do
think that maybe let's just discuss because there are some
people who are really quick to apologize and there are
others who want to do the deeper work. To me,
and this is just the way that I looked at it,
and everybody always makes fun of me, because yes, I
do look at life through rose colored glasses. I felt
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like that was a big deal for him to say
that he spent the last three months working on himself,
working through something. So we don't know if he went
to extensive therapy, if he took a trip somewhere where
he just was isolated and with his own feelings and stuff.
So that's why I felt like, I don't want to
discount the gesture, but I do feel like it was
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somewhat rehearsed and just kind of like put out there
in the public so that we can move on and
he can say that he did it. I was just
gonna say that, Carolina, like, do you feel like we
would have been able to move on and just go
back to loving Will Smith the fresh Prince of bel
Air if he didn't issue a public apology. It had
to be done. Yeah, I think it's gonna be easier
now that he did do it, because I think that
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that's really where the machine comes in, where it's like, well,
we made the public apology, and he did say that
he attempted to reach out to Chris Rock, which, by
the way, I feel like Chris Rock has full right
to decide when he feels like accepting that he ever
gets to that place. Um So I thought that was
like a really important note. Yeah, it's like Chris Rock,
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if he never wants to accept that apology, I'm with him,
because you know, you violated me in front of the
entire world, like, and he is just as accomplished, just
as successful, and just as respected in Hollywood. Like what
you did was just some foul ship. I understand maybe
you were going through something, but don't take it out
on me. And it's not like they didn't have a history,
you know. I feel like they have gone in the
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same circles at this stage of their career. Chris Rock
obviously one of the greatest comedians, I would say, of
our time, and Will Smith one of the biggest blockbuster
actors of our time, So it's not like they were
unfamiliar with each other where this was something that came
out of nowhere. So I do think that there were
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a lot of things that Will Smith had to work through.
He did address the question of whether or not Jada
said something to him, so I think he really owned
the action and what he did on stage, which was
a big question for everybody whether or not Jada prompted
him or said something to him to encourage him to
go out there and do that. So um, the one
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moment that I really stood out to me was when
he apologized to Chris Rock's mom and family and brother.
And that's where I feel like this is so much
deeper than just an Instagram apology. I don't know, I
don't know why. It just kind of rubbed me the
wrong way. Well, Chris Rock's brother, he is different, He's
cut from a different cloth and he was ready to
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put hands on Will Smith. So he better have apologized
before he catches that smoke on Hollywood. But anyway, Mom
and sister, I give him that. It was respectful. It
was the gentlemanlike thing to do, and it was very
will Smith of him, you know, because at the end
of the day we had him elevated. You know, Will
Smith was one of our guys, so successful, so respected,
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So it was a very will Smith thing of him
to do to apologize to Mom. I think the comedown
is just so hard though for him. I don't know
how people can at this point look at either of them.
And that's where I was. I went to so many
different places with this video. I'm not even kidding. I
think I watched it five times. I watched it five
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times all the way through to be able to digest that.
The first time I watched it was shocked. I couldn't
believe it that he's finally speaking out on it. Okay, fine,
So I watched it the first time. The second time
I watched it from immediate perspective, I'm like, Okay, they
did the lighting. He's got his water next to him
in case he gets emotional. Do you ever dissect things
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like that, because I certainly did not with him. I
definitely did, oh for sure. And then I went for
the emotion, like I looked at the third time. I
was like looking for the emotion, like does he really feel?
And I did get the sincerity from him. I really
do believe that Will Smith feels terrible about what happened
and what went down. So I think that there were
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like a number of things that they covered in the apology,
But like, I don't know, I think that maybe my
hope would be that now that he's apologized in public,
perhaps Chris Rock in the next I don't know, year
or two. I mean, there's really no timeline to that
kind of humiliation. But my hope is that Chris Rock
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can get to a place of forgiveness for him, because
that's gonna say a lot about Chris Rock freeing himself
of this situation. Well, he already started. He I think
he took home that goat, the Will Smith go that
Kevin Hard and they gifted him, didn't they give him
give him like a goat when he was at MSG
like last week, and it was named Will Smith. So
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that's the start he's already got, you know, little pet
with the same name at home. He can start getting
in the Will Smith and then he's like, well where
I'm like, damn, I should quote a real Will Smith.
Maybe we could patch things up. So I feel like
he's on his way there. Yeah, they're on the road
to recovery. But you know, how do you mend a
friendship like that? Like, look, let's talk about it. I
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mean we, like I said, we gave you an episode
a couple of months ago, now what three months ago
where we talked about Will Smith and Dio and it's happened.
And I truly believe that was the conversation that my
mother and I had that something just snapped, and the
only person who's ever going to know what was behind
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that is Will Smith. But do you have people in
your life, honey, that don't apologize? Family? My family is
not really want to say, it's just the next day,
everybody wakes up like, oh, that didn't happen. That didn't happen.
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Like a lot of my family dynamics has to do
with arguing, cursing, offending, and then okay, some of familia
will so yeah, no, there's not a lot of apologizing
in my family, and there is a lot of holding grudges.
Not my immediate immediate circle like brothers and sisters, but
aunts and uncles. I know some of them that don't
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speak for years. Yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna like
put it out there. My mom is tough, my mom
is super stubborn, and I adore my mother, I really do.
I mean, my mom is my best friend. I just
I mean, there are no words to describe the love
that I have for my mother, but that is something
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that she truly needs to work on. And like kind
of like what you just talked about. In our family,
it used to be that way, but now I won't
allow that. I need to have the conversation. I'm not
going to brush it under the rug. You know, I'm
not going to or pretend like you didn't offend me
yesterday by the way you spoke to me or the
things that you said. I am an adult now, and
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I feel like we need to get to a place
where we can apologize to each other. Like, for example,
growing up, my mother would never apologize to us as kids,
and you know, I'm inna I'm in that space right
now with my own children, and it takes a lot,
you know, when you lose your ship on your kids,
right like, because I mean, obviously it's happened to me
many times, and and I don't I'm not proud of it.
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I don't love it. But I make it a point,
whether it's five minutes later or when I'm ready to apologize,
and I mean it. I'm not just saying I'm sorry
to just get over the situation. I think it is
so important to go up to my son's room whichever
one you know I blew up at, or you know,
whichever one I had a conflict with that day, and
I look, I think back to the way that I
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was raised when I was a little girl, and how
much it would have meant to me to have my
mom say she was sorry so that I could move
on from a situation. So I have no problem up apologizing. Yeah, okay,
that was never gonna happen, Carolyna in your room crying.
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The door wouldn't be closed, because who the hell was
allowed to close doors in their house? N y, No,
I know, I feel you, That's what I'm saying, so
I know exactly what you're talking about. Imagine that dicket, mommy,
knock knock. Never are you out of your mind? You
better wake up the next day and act like you
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wasn't just physically assaulted last night. No, not not only
that too. You bring up a great point, honey, because
not only not only would my mother never apologize, I
had to apologize for pushing her to that point where
she had to give me a whoopen, you know. So
that's where I'm just a fact. And I would wake
up the next day, I know, and be so nervous
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and be like, oh my gosh. And then my brothers
and sisters would look at me like good luck at breakfast,
because you know, that's the thing everybody, and I still
hold my brothers and sisters to it. Whenever I would
get in trouble, they would bounce from the breakfast so
fast and leave me there by myself with that like
awkward silence, and I'm like, they would leave you for debt.
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They would be like good luck, girl, you know, I
mean they were out like a trial. I'm not even
kidding you. So it would be me and my mom
alone at the table, and it's like the elephant is
in the room, and I know she's not gonna say sorry.
So I would be like, Mommy, I'm sorry, you know,
I'm sorry that I made you so mad yesterday, you know,
and she would still give me the silent treatment. So
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I think maybe what I'm trying to do now at
this point is break that whole generational behavior where my
kids won't ever feel that way, because I remember the
anxiety that I used to feel when I would wake
up the next morning after getting a whopon and being like,
I don't even want to look at anybody. What if
I say the wrong thing? What if I do the
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wrong things? So, you know, I think that apologizing is
super important, and I want to know if you count
something as an apology. If somebody says, well, I'm sorry,
but because to me, that's not an apology, then don't
even bother talking to me about what happened until you're
ready to claim what you did. But I feel like
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people always want to justify and explain the reason why
they did something wrong, Because Karlene, I feel like not
everyone is mentally capable of understanding like what you did
was wrong, regardless of what led you to that moment.
The moment was foul. My husband has a hard time apologizing,
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Like I'll sit down with Mark, and I'll and I'll
say to him, I'm really sorry about what happened this weekend.
I definitely should have checked myself. I could have walked
away from the situation to gather my thoughts. And he'll
just look at me and he'll blink. And I always
up this reference SpongeBob. Did you ever watch SpongeBob? And
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you know when SpongeBob is just looking out and staring
at and he blinks like three times, that's Mark Grossman.
He'll look at me and he'll blink three times, and
he'll say okay, and I'm like, no, no, no, this
is the part where you then examine your behavior and
tell me how you could have done better and apologize
for making me feel a certain type of way. He does.
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He's not great at apologizing. How long will you wait
for an apology? Carelina? Does it have to be instant?
Can you wait days? Can you wait weeks? Can you wait? Monk? No?
I almost feel like if it's instant, you might not
even mean it, or you know what, if it's in
the heat of the moment, you're like, sorry, sorry, sorry,
you know what, I blew up? Yes, okay, let's take
a moment that that that's acceptable to me. But if
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you're just saying sorry, and I feel like you're doing
it just to get it out of the way because
you don't want to deal again going back to like
my family and brushing under the rug and pretending like
people didn't say what they said, I'm not cool with that.
I need a conversation because that conversation is then going
to help me get out of my head about that
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entire situation that just happened between us. So it could
be a couple of days and I'll give you your space,
but I'm not going to play the silent treatment bullshit
like that to me is so offensive. Because we're adults,
we have the ability and the capacity to deal with
our feelings. When you're a little kid, definitely you get
a pass. There are times where my kids do things
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or say things and they just don't realize it. They're
not there yet maturity wise. But you want to come
at me like some forty five year old man and
you can't discuss a topic with me, then then that's unacceptable.
Like then then we need to work on the communication
and our relationship. My husband's that one for like apologies,
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like okay, I'm here to apologize and break down what
he did wrong. He's just comes around, He's like, are
you hungry? Do you want to eat? Are you cold?
You want to blanket? Yes? So he just okay, let's
just get over it by me asking you you want food?
You know that you want food? Cracks the door open,
you sleeping? Are you hungry? And you know what, I
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always fall for it because you know what, Carolina, I
hate having tension and sometimes i'm I'm okay, e gaging
like did they really mean it? Did they not mean it?
But when it comes to outsiders, totally different story, totally
totally different story. I'm gonna need you to acknowledge what
you did wrong. I'm gonna need some sort of explanation
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as to what led you to that moment. But here's
the bad part, Carolina, I can't let go of it.
I will lead you to believe that we are okay,
but deep down inside I am harboring some type of
resentment and that's something that I struggle with and I
want to change about myself. So you're Chris Rock and
I'm Will Smith because because you are holding onto the grudge,
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and I am saying I'm sorry, and I'm willing to
put my heart on the line, and do you know
you're not. It's not uncommon. Um, I feel like that's
saying for me one, shame on you, for me twice,
shame on me that whole situation. Yes, I do believe
in that because I think that, like I am not
anybody's full I'm not here to be taking advantage of.
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But I do think that after somebody apologizes, I can
give them the benefit of the doubt if if I
love them, and if I want the relationship to continue,
whether it's a friendship, whether it's you know, a brother
or sister, you know, my husband, whoever that brother or sister,
like immediate family members, I can move on. They could
have said whatever they said, and I'm like, listen, these
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people are not going anywhere. I'm gonna have to, you know,
just get over whatever they said or whatever they did.
But when it comes to like friends or like coworkers
or like a boss or something, yeah, I'm gonna make
you think we're good. Oh yeah, we're good. We're gucci,
no problem. Hi, good morning. But I do not fuck
with you, no more like I don't. I'm like this, Yeah,
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I don't think that's uncommon though, because I will if
you if you screw me over more than once, then
then I am going to I mean, but look, there
are situations where it's unavoidable. You have to keep working
with someone, right, so then you gotta keep like you
gotta just smile and muscle through it. I know. But
I'm not going to give you my whole trust because
you you just gotta make believe right exactly. But now
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what about friendships? Because friendships that's the tough one for me.
I used to write people off, and that's something that like, yeah,
are you the same way? Yeah, I think unless you're
like coming to me like crying, like I can see
the remorse, I can see the guilt, I can see
how apologetic you are. If you're just gonna have a
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dry gass conversation with me on the phone, the friendship
is most likely over because it's just not why would you,
especially if I'm not to blame in any of this,
if you're the one that wronged me. No, I'm good.
I'm gonna let this go. I'm gonna let this go.
But I've had friends that have been like yo, I
was a bad friend, like I'm so sorry. You've been
nothing but good to me. I was going through some
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rough times or whatever. You know, if I feel like
heart to heart, it feels real, we can move on.
But there's also a certain amount of time. If let's
say a month to three a year goes by, we
are done. The key to the door, don't work, no more,
don't come back here. Um, I can't blame you for that.
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So something that I was unaware of in my twenties
and thirties. Oh no, I would say in my twenties,
I was unaware of it. In my thirties, my husband
did me the favor of opening my eyes to it.
And he said, you know, you're tough and I said, yeah,
I'm tough. And he said, but you know you're you
dismiss people and you don't give people a chance. And
I'm like, well, because and again, you know, like we
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were talking about, if somebody screws me over, then that's
it done. And he said, but people are human and
they make mistakes, and don't you make mistakes? And I said,
well yeah, And he really made me sit back and
think about the way that I was handling some of
my friendships. Now, I will say this. If you come
at me with some lackluster apology, with some bullshit like
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just you're saying it just to get it over with
so that we can get back on track, I'm not
cool with it. I'm an adult. I don't have time
or space in my life for friends who are not
going to keep it all the way real and be vulnerable,
because I think that that's really what it is. It's
it's vulnerability. It's having the ability to tell people I
was wrong, I messed up, I'm humbled, I'm sorry. And
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that's where I think the big differences in the friendships
that I maintained today. You do something fucked up. Okay,
that sucked, But how did you deal with the aftermath?
And that's kind of what I put things through. That's
the filter that I put things through with friends now
because I don't have time for for bs friends anymore.
I mean, I know you feel say what it's got
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to be. The friendships have got to be solid, and
apologies also have got to be solid. Before we came on,
you know, I was reading about you know, what's the
right way to say sorry? Because there actually is a
right way to say sorry. Stop. That's one of my
favorite songs in the whole world. But you know how
so am I. But you know, we always like to
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give you guys, you know, not just our opinion or
you know what's going on in the world, but also
you know, pointers and how to navigate through life. And
this article actually tells us, you know, what's the right
way to say sorry. And the first thing that they
mentioned was dropping your defense, you know, like not being
on the defense immediately as you go in. Yeah, it's vulnerability,
it's letting people know. Then you also have to be
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real when you're apologizing. You know, don't be afraid to
be genuine, show your sorrow, show your remorse, you know,
just be real about it. And then don't include if
ants or butts. You know, there shouldn't be any qual
no caveat's know, nothing like just thank you let it
ripped as an apology. Also keep your apology nice and short,
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will Smith, we need that ten minute apology. Stay focused. Also,
you know, if we're talking one on one, I don't
want you on your phone, and don't be looking over
my shoulder daydreaming. Stay focused. Please understand that you know
there could be a deep impact behind the words that
you're spitting out. So also, you know, apologies are beginning, Carolina.
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You know like once you apologize, it can be a
fresh start. So don't look at it as like, you know,
I'm just apologizing and moving on. Look at it as
this is a fresh start between me and this person
that I heard. So there you are. Those are some steps.
If you're dealing with something right now and you feel
like you need to say sorry to someone, there are
some pointers so that you can get your sorry out
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the right way. Que justin Bieber, come on, Andrew, throw
it in there. Not we actually can't. Is it tuning
now to say so? I sound just like and we're
not allowed to play music on here. So this now,
you know what, honey, that list is so incredible and
I think that we, you and I just in this
discussion covered a lot of those things. Um. The one
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that I will say is that really sticks out to me.
It's like there might be people like we always talk about,
and I love that you brought this list to the
table because there might be people who have a situation
right now and they don't even know how to approach
it right. I think being fully and one present is
the first because you you said it right there, honey.
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The phone is a distraction, the TV. Don't bring your kid,
you know. If we're at a restaurant, don't be like
looking out for the waitress to try to save you
because you don't really want to say you're sorry. You
just want to move on and you want to get
your drink on. I think that it has to come
from a place of sincerity, and I think that list
is absolutely perfect. Oh your ship, and I think that
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that's where a lot of people go wrong. If you
did someone dirty, acknowledge it. And I love that fact
that apologies are a beginning. You did somebody dirty, Okay,
say you're sorry and let them know. I'm gonna work
my butt off to get this relationship or friendship back
on track. Like let's work, but also give me the
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grace to do that. Give me the ability to prove
this to you, because I want to show you that
this means something to me, and I don't think that
enough people put that energy into it. They really don't.
It's like, if I mean so much to you that
you still want me to be an active part in
your life, I'm gonna need you to prove it to me.
And I'm not talking gifts. I'm not talking money, I'm
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not talking to anything. I'm talking actions, tangible way that
you move. I want to see it different, I want
to see it better and I don't want this ship
to happen. Ever again, how about that unless it's Mark.
Unless it's Mark, I need a new bracelet um I
could use. Unless it's some new I always like, no,
I'm kidding you know that. Actually Mark did try to
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do that, and I told him, and I made it
very very clear. You will not buy my trust. You
will not buy a safe space for me. If if
a conversation makes you feel so uncomfortable, then it absolutely
needs to be had. You're not going to get by
it just by like shoving a purse or a gift
in my face. Because there are a lot of women
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that you know and a lot of men too. I mean,
this is not just about women that look for that.
Like people will forgive a whole side baby for a gift.
We're not doing that at all. But you know, forgiveness,
we are. Forgiveness in relationships like marital situations are very
very different. You've got people that go out and cheat.
They asked for a year and a half and somebody
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will take an upgraded ring and put it all behind them.
I don't know how they can do that, but we
could go on forever if we get into that. I
know that's a whole other conversation, but you know what
just came to me and I feel like this is
something that we can end this podcast on. It's that
apologies are a beginning, but forgiveness is freedom. Forgiveness is
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freedom for you and for the other person. There are
so many of us that hold on to these things that,
like you know, they just become so toxic and then
you wonder in your life like why why aren't certain
things going my way? Or or why am I not
getting the things that I'm you know, the goals, Why
am I not reaching my goals? Why am I not
doing this or that? And I really do believe that
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once you give yourself that freedom to forgive, everything else
will fall in line. And I you know, look, I
appreciate Will Smith for being brave enough to put that
out there. Anything you do now will be judged, and
that's why I said, I do believe that he was
sincere in his apology, and truthfully, my hope is just
that they can bury this so that everybody can move on.
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But I think that really the ball is in Chris
Rock's court, as it should be, and my hope is
just that they can mend it. And you know, we're
just looking for the blockbuster movie for both of them
to be in together so that they can both shine eventually.
I want those two to make up. I respect both
of them, I respect their career path as men, and
I've always admired both of them for the work they
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have put in. So my hope is that, you know,
we do get to see him on a stage together,
on a red carpet together, or or maybe even a
movie together. M Yeah, we need the moment. And hopefully
this has inspired you. If you're in a space where
you need to either ask for forgiveness or forgive someone,
just take a look at yourself and take a look
at the situation and just know that if you put
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in the work, it can get better. So there you
have it. Our work here is done today, honey, and
there you go, and just like that and just like that, no,
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that either Jada or or Will Smith and Chris Rock
there can be some kind of thing you know who
we need on this. We need Oh girl, Oprah, come
out of retirement, come get this together, Oprah. Okay, we
need your healing words and thoughts. She still does interviews
in the garden. Right, they can all have done let
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up exactly. Or maybe they could go to drink Champs
with Nori. That will be more fun. They could smoke,
they could drink, and they could just you know, just
have a good old time. It don't need to be
that serious, because Oprah can make things very serious. Well,
when you know what you. You just gave two. We
gave two good options. We gave Oprah, we gave Nori,
and Mike Tyson has a podcast too. We can always
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I'm a body positive advocate. I'm Caroline Bermudez, but I
was born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,
and a worker being. This is life in English. Well,
it finally happened, honey, And you know, I think a
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lot of people were waiting for this apology to happen,
and I have some thoughts on it, but I wanted
to hear what your mind frame was when you heard
the apology from Will Smith to Chris Rock this like
past week. I was like, now you're gonna apologize. This
(00:45):
is wild late. I don't know. I just didn't even
think an apology was coming at this point. I'm not
even gonna lie to you. I thought it was very
strategic that this video, which was uploaded to Will Smith's Instagram.
That's the thing. I don't want to discount his apology
because like we'll get into that whole conversation in just
(01:06):
a bit. But I did think that it was a
little sneaky that it was released on a Friday, right
around ten am, you know, when the news cycle is
really not pumping. Because what a lot of people don't
know is that in Hollywood, your publicists and your managers
and your agents all work together when you have a
(01:28):
conflict like this. I guess I could say, Gar, there
is a white board. Oh for sure, there are brainstorming meetings,
there are behind the scenes meetings, and so I just
thought this was something that was very strategic for them
to have released it on his Instagram on a Friday,
like I said, like right in the morning, smacked out
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in the middle of the morning where it would get
lost in the sauce. And so that's why I said,
I don't want to take anything away from the apology
because I did feel like it was sincere. But I
don't know, I feel like not enough people are talking
about it, and not everybody saw it. Really, I felt
like that was like the only thing I saw. Maybe
my feed was just in a frenzy over finally Will
(02:12):
Smith apologizes. I felt like everybody was just vultures on
that one story. I don't know. I felt like my
Friday was kind of slow and that's the only thing
I was seeing. Crazy, Yeah, I mean, and I know
that Instagram has been working with different algorithms. So for me,
I was watching like random people doing mail art and uh,
you know, funny hood binds and stuff like that, which
(02:33):
I was like, Okay, I don't even follow these people,
but cool. So for me, I feel like it really
did get lost. But in case you missed it, and
in case you didn't see the Will Smith apology, here's
what he had to say. So I will I will
say to you, Uh, Chris, I apologize to you. My
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behavior was unacceptable and I'm here whenever you're ready to talk. Okay,
So now let's give our thoughts on first off, the apology.
I feel like this was a very long video for
somebody to upload to Instagram. I personally felt it it
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was long. I was like, oh my gosh, how long
is this gonna go. I did think it was very structured.
I think he absolutely got some guidance on how to
approach this, and it was more of like a Q
and A type style, like where he was responding to
people who have maybe commented on his Instagram or sent
him questions. So I did feel like he got to
(03:39):
the meat of the issue. I felt like it was sincere,
but I just don't know. I feel like there's just
still something so hollywood to it. What were your thoughts, Well,
you could definitely tell it was rehearsed. The man had
what three months to put this apology together. The lighting
was perfect, you know, his demeanor. It just felt good,
nice and calm, a little bit fluid. I don't why
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I wasn't with it, because I'm like, yo, you should
have done this privately, and it was long. Like you said,
it just felt like a production overall. Well, I do
think that maybe let's just discuss because there are some
people who are really quick to apologize and there are
others who want to do the deeper work. To me,
and this is just the way that I looked at it,
and everybody always makes fun of me, because yes, I
do look at life through rose colored glasses. I felt
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like that was a big deal for him to say
that he spent the last three months working on himself,
working through something. So we don't know if he went
to extensive therapy, if he took a trip somewhere where
he just was isolated and with his own feelings and stuff.
So that's why I felt like, I don't want to
discount the gesture, but I do feel like it was
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somewhat rehearsed and just kind of like put out there
in the public so that we can move on and
he can say that he did it. I was just
gonna say that, Carolina, like, do you feel like we
would have been able to move on and just go
back to loving Will Smith the fresh Prince of bel
Air if he didn't issue a public apology. It had
to be done. Yeah, I think it's gonna be easier
now that he did do it, because I think that
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that's really where the machine comes in, where it's like, well,
we made the public apology, and he did say that
he attempted to reach out to Chris Rock, which, by
the way, I feel like Chris Rock has full right
to decide when he feels like accepting that he ever
gets to that place. Um So I thought that was
like a really important note. Yeah, it's like Chris Rock,
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if he never wants to accept that apology, I'm with him,
because you know, you violated me in front of the
entire world, like, and he is just as accomplished, just
as successful, and just as respected in Hollywood. Like what
you did was just some foul ship. I understand maybe
you were going through something, but don't take it out
on me. And it's not like they didn't have a history,
you know. I feel like they have gone in the
(05:48):
same circles at this stage of their career. Chris Rock
obviously one of the greatest comedians, I would say, of
our time, and Will Smith one of the biggest blockbuster
actors of our time, So it's not like they were
unfamiliar with each other where this was something that came
out of nowhere. So I do think that there were
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a lot of things that Will Smith had to work through.
He did address the question of whether or not Jada
said something to him, so I think he really owned
the action and what he did on stage, which was
a big question for everybody whether or not Jada prompted
him or said something to him to encourage him to
go out there and do that. So um, the one
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moment that I really stood out to me was when
he apologized to Chris Rock's mom and family and brother.
And that's where I feel like this is so much
deeper than just an Instagram apology. I don't know, I
don't know why. It just kind of rubbed me the
wrong way. Well, Chris Rock's brother, he is different, He's
cut from a different cloth and he was ready to
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put hands on Will Smith. So he better have apologized
before he catches that smoke on Hollywood. But anyway, Mom
and sister, I give him that. It was respectful. It
was the gentlemanlike thing to do, and it was very
will Smith of him, you know, because at the end
of the day we had him elevated. You know, Will
Smith was one of our guys, so successful, so respected,
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So it was a very will Smith thing of him
to do to apologize to Mom. I think the comedown
is just so hard though for him. I don't know
how people can at this point look at either of them.
And that's where I was. I went to so many
different places with this video. I'm not even kidding. I
think I watched it five times. I watched it five
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times all the way through to be able to digest that.
The first time I watched it was shocked. I couldn't
believe it that he's finally speaking out on it. Okay, fine,
So I watched it the first time. The second time
I watched it from immediate perspective, I'm like, Okay, they
did the lighting. He's got his water next to him
in case he gets emotional. Do you ever dissect things
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like that, because I certainly did not with him. I
definitely did, oh for sure. And then I went for
the emotion, like I looked at the third time. I
was like looking for the emotion, like does he really feel?
And I did get the sincerity from him. I really
do believe that Will Smith feels terrible about what happened
and what went down. So I think that there were
(08:16):
like a number of things that they covered in the apology,
But like, I don't know, I think that maybe my
hope would be that now that he's apologized in public,
perhaps Chris Rock in the next I don't know, year
or two. I mean, there's really no timeline to that
kind of humiliation. But my hope is that Chris Rock
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can get to a place of forgiveness for him, because
that's gonna say a lot about Chris Rock freeing himself
of this situation. Well, he already started. He I think
he took home that goat, the Will Smith go that
Kevin Hard and they gifted him, didn't they give him
give him like a goat when he was at MSG
like last week, and it was named Will Smith. So
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that's the start he's already got, you know, little pet
with the same name at home. He can start getting
in the Will Smith and then he's like, well where
I'm like, damn, I should quote a real Will Smith.
Maybe we could patch things up. So I feel like
he's on his way there. Yeah, they're on the road
to recovery. But you know, how do you mend a
friendship like that? Like, look, let's talk about it. I
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mean we, like I said, we gave you an episode
a couple of months ago, now what three months ago
where we talked about Will Smith and Dio and it's happened.
And I truly believe that was the conversation that my
mother and I had that something just snapped, and the
only person who's ever going to know what was behind
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that is Will Smith. But do you have people in
your life, honey, that don't apologize? Family? My family is
not really want to say, it's just the next day,
everybody wakes up like, oh, that didn't happen. That didn't happen.
(10:02):
Like a lot of my family dynamics has to do
with arguing, cursing, offending, and then okay, some of familia
will so yeah, no, there's not a lot of apologizing
in my family, and there is a lot of holding grudges.
Not my immediate immediate circle like brothers and sisters, but
aunts and uncles. I know some of them that don't
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speak for years. Yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna like
put it out there. My mom is tough, my mom
is super stubborn, and I adore my mother, I really do.
I mean, my mom is my best friend. I just
I mean, there are no words to describe the love
that I have for my mother, but that is something
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that she truly needs to work on. And like kind
of like what you just talked about. In our family,
it used to be that way, but now I won't
allow that. I need to have the conversation. I'm not
going to brush it under the rug. You know, I'm
not going to or pretend like you didn't offend me
yesterday by the way you spoke to me or the
things that you said. I am an adult now, and
(11:06):
I feel like we need to get to a place
where we can apologize to each other. Like, for example,
growing up, my mother would never apologize to us as kids,
and you know, I'm inna I'm in that space right
now with my own children, and it takes a lot,
you know, when you lose your ship on your kids,
right like, because I mean, obviously it's happened to me
many times, and and I don't I'm not proud of it.
(11:28):
I don't love it. But I make it a point,
whether it's five minutes later or when I'm ready to apologize,
and I mean it. I'm not just saying I'm sorry
to just get over the situation. I think it is
so important to go up to my son's room whichever
one you know I blew up at, or you know,
whichever one I had a conflict with that day, and
I look, I think back to the way that I
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was raised when I was a little girl, and how
much it would have meant to me to have my
mom say she was sorry so that I could move
on from a situation. So I have no problem up apologizing. Yeah, okay,
that was never gonna happen, Carolyna in your room crying.
(12:15):
The door wouldn't be closed, because who the hell was
allowed to close doors in their house? N y, No,
I know, I feel you, That's what I'm saying, so
I know exactly what you're talking about. Imagine that dicket, mommy,
knock knock. Never are you out of your mind? You
better wake up the next day and act like you
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wasn't just physically assaulted last night. No, not not only
that too. You bring up a great point, honey, because
not only not only would my mother never apologize, I
had to apologize for pushing her to that point where
she had to give me a whoopen, you know. So
that's where I'm just a fact. And I would wake
up the next day, I know, and be so nervous
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and be like, oh my gosh. And then my brothers
and sisters would look at me like good luck at breakfast,
because you know, that's the thing everybody, and I still
hold my brothers and sisters to it. Whenever I would
get in trouble, they would bounce from the breakfast so
fast and leave me there by myself with that like
awkward silence, and I'm like, they would leave you for debt.
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They would be like good luck, girl, you know, I
mean they were out like a trial. I'm not even
kidding you. So it would be me and my mom
alone at the table, and it's like the elephant is
in the room, and I know she's not gonna say sorry.
So I would be like, Mommy, I'm sorry, you know,
I'm sorry that I made you so mad yesterday, you know,
and she would still give me the silent treatment. So
(13:39):
I think maybe what I'm trying to do now at
this point is break that whole generational behavior where my
kids won't ever feel that way, because I remember the
anxiety that I used to feel when I would wake
up the next morning after getting a whopon and being like,
I don't even want to look at anybody. What if
I say the wrong thing? What if I do the
(14:00):
wrong things? So, you know, I think that apologizing is
super important, and I want to know if you count
something as an apology. If somebody says, well, I'm sorry,
but because to me, that's not an apology, then don't
even bother talking to me about what happened until you're
ready to claim what you did. But I feel like
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people always want to justify and explain the reason why
they did something wrong, Because Karlene, I feel like not
everyone is mentally capable of understanding like what you did
was wrong, regardless of what led you to that moment.
The moment was foul. My husband has a hard time apologizing,
(14:42):
Like I'll sit down with Mark, and I'll and I'll
say to him, I'm really sorry about what happened this weekend.
I definitely should have checked myself. I could have walked
away from the situation to gather my thoughts. And he'll
just look at me and he'll blink. And I always
up this reference SpongeBob. Did you ever watch SpongeBob? And
(15:03):
you know when SpongeBob is just looking out and staring
at and he blinks like three times, that's Mark Grossman.
He'll look at me and he'll blink three times, and
he'll say okay, and I'm like, no, no, no, this
is the part where you then examine your behavior and
tell me how you could have done better and apologize
for making me feel a certain type of way. He does.
(15:24):
He's not great at apologizing. How long will you wait
for an apology? Carelina? Does it have to be instant?
Can you wait days? Can you wait weeks? Can you wait? Monk? No?
I almost feel like if it's instant, you might not
even mean it, or you know what, if it's in
the heat of the moment, you're like, sorry, sorry, sorry,
you know what, I blew up? Yes, okay, let's take
a moment that that that's acceptable to me. But if
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you're just saying sorry, and I feel like you're doing
it just to get it out of the way because
you don't want to deal again going back to like
my family and brushing under the rug and pretending like
people didn't say what they said, I'm not cool with that.
I need a conversation because that conversation is then going
to help me get out of my head about that
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entire situation that just happened between us. So it could
be a couple of days and I'll give you your space,
but I'm not going to play the silent treatment bullshit
like that to me is so offensive. Because we're adults,
we have the ability and the capacity to deal with
our feelings. When you're a little kid, definitely you get
a pass. There are times where my kids do things
(16:27):
or say things and they just don't realize it. They're
not there yet maturity wise. But you want to come
at me like some forty five year old man and
you can't discuss a topic with me, then then that's unacceptable.
Like then then we need to work on the communication
and our relationship. My husband's that one for like apologies,
(16:47):
like okay, I'm here to apologize and break down what
he did wrong. He's just comes around, He's like, are
you hungry? Do you want to eat? Are you cold?
You want to blanket? Yes? So he just okay, let's
just get over it by me asking you you want food?
You know that you want food? Cracks the door open,
you sleeping? Are you hungry? And you know what, I
(17:10):
always fall for it because you know what, Carolina, I
hate having tension and sometimes i'm I'm okay, e gaging
like did they really mean it? Did they not mean it?
But when it comes to outsiders, totally different story, totally
totally different story. I'm gonna need you to acknowledge what
you did wrong. I'm gonna need some sort of explanation
(17:30):
as to what led you to that moment. But here's
the bad part, Carolina, I can't let go of it.
I will lead you to believe that we are okay,
but deep down inside I am harboring some type of
resentment and that's something that I struggle with and I
want to change about myself. So you're Chris Rock and
I'm Will Smith because because you are holding onto the grudge,
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and I am saying I'm sorry, and I'm willing to
put my heart on the line, and do you know
you're not. It's not uncommon. Um, I feel like that's
saying for me one, shame on you, for me twice,
shame on me that whole situation. Yes, I do believe
in that because I think that, like I am not
anybody's full I'm not here to be taking advantage of.
(18:18):
But I do think that after somebody apologizes, I can
give them the benefit of the doubt if if I
love them, and if I want the relationship to continue,
whether it's a friendship, whether it's you know, a brother
or sister, you know, my husband, whoever that brother or sister,
like immediate family members, I can move on. They could
have said whatever they said, and I'm like, listen, these
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people are not going anywhere. I'm gonna have to, you know,
just get over whatever they said or whatever they did.
But when it comes to like friends or like coworkers
or like a boss or something, yeah, I'm gonna make
you think we're good. Oh yeah, we're good. We're gucci,
no problem. Hi, good morning. But I do not fuck
with you, no more like I don't. I'm like this, Yeah,
(19:01):
I don't think that's uncommon though, because I will if
you if you screw me over more than once, then
then I am going to I mean, but look, there
are situations where it's unavoidable. You have to keep working
with someone, right, so then you gotta keep like you
gotta just smile and muscle through it. I know. But
I'm not going to give you my whole trust because
you you just gotta make believe right exactly. But now
(19:26):
what about friendships? Because friendships that's the tough one for me.
I used to write people off, and that's something that like, yeah,
are you the same way? Yeah, I think unless you're
like coming to me like crying, like I can see
the remorse, I can see the guilt, I can see
how apologetic you are. If you're just gonna have a
(19:48):
dry gass conversation with me on the phone, the friendship
is most likely over because it's just not why would you,
especially if I'm not to blame in any of this,
if you're the one that wronged me. No, I'm good.
I'm gonna let this go. I'm gonna let this go.
But I've had friends that have been like yo, I
was a bad friend, like I'm so sorry. You've been
nothing but good to me. I was going through some
(20:09):
rough times or whatever. You know, if I feel like
heart to heart, it feels real, we can move on.
But there's also a certain amount of time. If let's
say a month to three a year goes by, we
are done. The key to the door, don't work, no more,
don't come back here. Um, I can't blame you for that.
(20:30):
So something that I was unaware of in my twenties
and thirties. Oh no, I would say in my twenties,
I was unaware of it. In my thirties, my husband
did me the favor of opening my eyes to it.
And he said, you know, you're tough and I said, yeah,
I'm tough. And he said, but you know you're you
dismiss people and you don't give people a chance. And
I'm like, well, because and again, you know, like we
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were talking about, if somebody screws me over, then that's
it done. And he said, but people are human and
they make mistakes, and don't you make mistakes? And I said,
well yeah, And he really made me sit back and
think about the way that I was handling some of
my friendships. Now, I will say this. If you come
at me with some lackluster apology, with some bullshit like
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just you're saying it just to get it over with
so that we can get back on track, I'm not
cool with it. I'm an adult. I don't have time
or space in my life for friends who are not
going to keep it all the way real and be vulnerable,
because I think that that's really what it is. It's
it's vulnerability. It's having the ability to tell people I
was wrong, I messed up, I'm humbled, I'm sorry. And
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that's where I think the big differences in the friendships
that I maintained today. You do something fucked up. Okay,
that sucked, But how did you deal with the aftermath?
And that's kind of what I put things through. That's
the filter that I put things through with friends now
because I don't have time for for bs friends anymore.
I mean, I know you feel say what it's got
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to be. The friendships have got to be solid, and
apologies also have got to be solid. Before we came on,
you know, I was reading about you know, what's the
right way to say sorry? Because there actually is a
right way to say sorry. Stop. That's one of my
favorite songs in the whole world. But you know how
so am I. But you know, we always like to
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give you guys, you know, not just our opinion or
you know what's going on in the world, but also
you know, pointers and how to navigate through life. And
this article actually tells us, you know, what's the right
way to say sorry. And the first thing that they
mentioned was dropping your defense, you know, like not being
on the defense immediately as you go in. Yeah, it's vulnerability,
it's letting people know. Then you also have to be
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real when you're apologizing. You know, don't be afraid to
be genuine, show your sorrow, show your remorse, you know,
just be real about it. And then don't include if
ants or butts. You know, there shouldn't be any qual
no caveat's know, nothing like just thank you let it
ripped as an apology. Also keep your apology nice and short,
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will Smith, we need that ten minute apology. Stay focused. Also,
you know, if we're talking one on one, I don't
want you on your phone, and don't be looking over
my shoulder daydreaming. Stay focused. Please understand that you know
there could be a deep impact behind the words that
you're spitting out. So also, you know, apologies are beginning, Carolina.
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You know like once you apologize, it can be a
fresh start. So don't look at it as like, you know,
I'm just apologizing and moving on. Look at it as
this is a fresh start between me and this person
that I heard. So there you are. Those are some steps.
If you're dealing with something right now and you feel
like you need to say sorry to someone, there are
some pointers so that you can get your sorry out
(23:55):
the right way. Que justin Bieber, come on, Andrew, throw
it in there. Not we actually can't. Is it tuning
now to say so? I sound just like and we're
not allowed to play music on here. So this now,
you know what, honey, that list is so incredible and
I think that we, you and I just in this
discussion covered a lot of those things. Um. The one
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that I will say is that really sticks out to me.
It's like there might be people like we always talk about,
and I love that you brought this list to the
table because there might be people who have a situation
right now and they don't even know how to approach
it right. I think being fully and one present is
the first because you you said it right there, honey.
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The phone is a distraction, the TV. Don't bring your kid,
you know. If we're at a restaurant, don't be like
looking out for the waitress to try to save you
because you don't really want to say you're sorry. You
just want to move on and you want to get
your drink on. I think that it has to come
from a place of sincerity, and I think that list
is absolutely perfect. Oh your ship, and I think that
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that's where a lot of people go wrong. If you
did someone dirty, acknowledge it. And I love that fact
that apologies are a beginning. You did somebody dirty, Okay,
say you're sorry and let them know. I'm gonna work
my butt off to get this relationship or friendship back
on track. Like let's work, but also give me the
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grace to do that. Give me the ability to prove
this to you, because I want to show you that
this means something to me, and I don't think that
enough people put that energy into it. They really don't.
It's like, if I mean so much to you that
you still want me to be an active part in
your life, I'm gonna need you to prove it to me.
And I'm not talking gifts. I'm not talking money, I'm
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not talking to anything. I'm talking actions, tangible way that
you move. I want to see it different, I want
to see it better and I don't want this ship
to happen. Ever again, how about that unless it's Mark.
Unless it's Mark, I need a new bracelet um I
could use. Unless it's some new I always like, no,
I'm kidding you know that. Actually Mark did try to
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do that, and I told him, and I made it
very very clear. You will not buy my trust. You
will not buy a safe space for me. If if
a conversation makes you feel so uncomfortable, then it absolutely
needs to be had. You're not going to get by
it just by like shoving a purse or a gift
in my face. Because there are a lot of women
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that you know and a lot of men too. I mean,
this is not just about women that look for that.
Like people will forgive a whole side baby for a gift.
We're not doing that at all. But you know, forgiveness,
we are. Forgiveness in relationships like marital situations are very
very different. You've got people that go out and cheat.
They asked for a year and a half and somebody
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will take an upgraded ring and put it all behind them.
I don't know how they can do that, but we
could go on forever if we get into that. I
know that's a whole other conversation, but you know what
just came to me and I feel like this is
something that we can end this podcast on. It's that
apologies are a beginning, but forgiveness is freedom. Forgiveness is
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freedom for you and for the other person. There are
so many of us that hold on to these things that,
like you know, they just become so toxic and then
you wonder in your life like why why aren't certain
things going my way? Or or why am I not
getting the things that I'm you know, the goals, Why
am I not reaching my goals? Why am I not
doing this or that? And I really do believe that
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once you give yourself that freedom to forgive, everything else
will fall in line. And I you know, look, I
appreciate Will Smith for being brave enough to put that
out there. Anything you do now will be judged, and
that's why I said, I do believe that he was
sincere in his apology, and truthfully, my hope is just
that they can bury this so that everybody can move on.
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But I think that really the ball is in Chris
Rock's court, as it should be, and my hope is
just that they can mend it. And you know, we're
just looking for the blockbuster movie for both of them
to be in together so that they can both shine eventually.
I want those two to make up. I respect both
of them, I respect their career path as men, and
I've always admired both of them for the work they
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have put in. So my hope is that, you know,
we do get to see him on a stage together,
on a red carpet together, or or maybe even a
movie together. M Yeah, we need the moment. And hopefully
this has inspired you. If you're in a space where
you need to either ask for forgiveness or forgive someone,
just take a look at yourself and take a look
at the situation and just know that if you put
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in the work, it can get better. So there you
have it. Our work here is done today, honey, and
there you go, and just like that and just like that, no,
you know, By the way, I did want to say,
we are looking for your letters. If you want to
head into the salon, please please email us or you
can hit us up on d M at l I
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Spanglish or at the Real Carolina because if you guys
need to navigate through an apology or a situation, we
would love to help you through it. Yeah, just DM
me to hold letter. Don't worry about it. I'll read it.
Typos and oh I will fix them for you. Yes,
and we don't judge. We will not judge, but we
do want to be there to help you through it.
So yeah, guys, I mean, I guess we'll just keep
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everybody posted on what happens next, because my hope is
that either Jada or or Will Smith and Chris Rock
there can be some kind of thing you know who
we need on this. We need Oh girl, Oprah, come
out of retirement, come get this together, Oprah. Okay, we
need your healing words and thoughts. She still does interviews
in the garden. Right, they can all have done let
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up exactly. Or maybe they could go to drink Champs
with Nori. That will be more fun. They could smoke,
they could drink, and they could just you know, just
have a good old time. It don't need to be
that serious, because Oprah can make things very serious. Well,
when you know what you. You just gave two. We
gave two good options. We gave Oprah, we gave Nori,
and Mike Tyson has a podcast too. We can always
have them go and battle it out there, you know,
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but we just want to see something resolved with this.
So thank you guys so much for listening today and
for joining us. And like we said, we hope that this,
you know, conversation inspires you to do something, whether it's
in a relationship or a friendship in your life. We're
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