May 8, 2025 • 5 mins
Dr. Arthur Caplan talks to Mendte in the Morning about the conclave and their thoughts on the potential new Pope.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's bring in doctor Arthur Caplan, professor of bioethics at
New York University Langone Medical Center. Thanks so much for
being here. As always, doctor Caplan, great to talk to you.
This is a bit of an unusual topic. Usually we
talk about medical issues. But police in Connecticut are launching
GPS darts. They're shooting them at fleeing cars so they
(00:22):
can track the cars. You see an ethical problem here?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah, But before I get to that, I'm just
looking You may hope for Colonel Dolan, but I'm looking
at the betting sites. There's this gigantic betting operation on
who the next Pope will be. And he's in the field.
He isn't even ranked in the top five. Here are
the odds on are there odds like field? You know,
(00:48):
one and fifty kind of odds fifty to one.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That makes it a good bet.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you'd make money, at least at the British bedsites.
I think this is hilarious that they have these. I mean,
who knows. It's one thing when you're betting horses and
some people study their performance and they are races over time.
This is crazy. It's like, you know, well, I like
this guy's conservative. I think that that gets that'll boost
him up in the odds. No, I like this guy.
(01:14):
He's from Portugal's so it's it's really sorry. I don't
mean to be no.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, I'm glad you's.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Respectful to the to the church and this important selection.
But these betting sites are just they're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And I saw the figures. There's already been two hundred
million bet on the pope. So yeah, across the world,
and they have been betting on the pope since the
fifteen hundredths. Did you say two hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Million, Yeah, it's probably more than that. That was two
hundred million as of yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's true. Wow, Yeah, it was two hundred million as
of yesterday. And I'm gonna bet on on. I was
looking for a site yesterday so I could bet on
Cardinal Dolan because nobody knows, really, nobody knows who it's
gonna be. Every year we hear from these alleged pope
experts about what it's going to be, and it's rarely
(02:04):
that person.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, no, I agree, I track it and I'm interested.
That's clearly. Uh. People say, why would I be interested.
I'm not a Catholic, but I'm keenly interested because that's
a vital moral leader in the world. It's an ethics guy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So anyway, Second, who did you bet.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
On the guy who was the former secretary to H.
Francis the Pietro.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh now I see now, I think that the fact
that we've seen black smoke a few times now means
he's not going to get it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Uh huh. You think he would have just jumped in.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right away, being the pope expert that I am.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You know, I'm sorry I'm wasting time here. But the
other interesting aspect of this is I love the idea.
They go into seclusion and they can't really talk. They
just go there to boat and pray, and so you
have to kind of do all your haggling either before
the whole thing starts, which they were doing, but then
it's like lunch becomes really important because that's when you
(03:15):
talk to one another. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Here's the thing that gets me about the whole thing.
They have an electronic jammer, so that even if somebody
tries to sneak an electronic device and or grabs one,
it's gonna be jammed. Who don't they trust? These are
the cardinals, These are supposed to be the holiest of
the holy, they have to have a jammers did you see, Yeah, yeah, yeah, of.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Course there's a lot of wheeling and dealing amidst these
holy men. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh absolutely, Hey, you know what, we spent half the
time now talking about the pope betting and jamming the
electronic devices. Let's get to the GPS dart.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
At the place. Here's why it's an ethics issue. It's privacy.
If they shoot a dart at your car and then
follow you home, are they invading your privacy as your car,
so to speak, a kind of extension of your personal space.
They're not. You haven't been convicted of anything. They're just
tracking you around. But I'm gonna surprise you, Larry. I
(04:19):
like this idea, and I'll tell you why. Huge numbers
of people get injured and killed every year and police
chases so they see some nut you know, driving around erradically,
or they see someone fleeing the scene, and the cops
launch a high speed pursuit. It's dangerous. I'm not saying,
you know, I understand why they do it, but it's
(04:40):
a really dangerous thing. If you're a pedestrian, or you
get car crashes. A number of times people have hit
ambulances and things like that police, I mean chasing. So
I like the idea of being able to, particularly in
the city, shoot a dart, then track this thing, and
you don't have to do the high speed chase putting
(05:01):
people at risk. To me, that's the big advantage.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, no, I actually think it's a great idea. Doctor
Arthur Kaplan, professor of bioethics at New York University, Langone
Medical Center and papal expert. We really appreciate your time today,
especially with what's going on at the Vatican. Thanks so much,
Let's bring in doctor Arthur Caplan, professor of bioethics at
New York University Langone Medical Center. Thanks so much for
being here. As always, doctor Caplan, great to talk to you.
This is a bit of an unusual topic. Usually we
talk about medical issues. But police in Connecticut are launching
GPS darts. They're shooting them at fleeing cars so they
(00:22):
can track the cars. You see an ethical problem here?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah, But before I get to that, I'm just
looking You may hope for Colonel Dolan, but I'm looking
at the betting sites. There's this gigantic betting operation on
who the next Pope will be. And he's in the field.
He isn't even ranked in the top five. Here are
the odds on are there odds like field? You know,
(00:48):
one and fifty kind of odds fifty to one.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That makes it a good bet.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you'd make money, at least at the British bedsites.
I think this is hilarious that they have these. I mean,
who knows. It's one thing when you're betting horses and
some people study their performance and they are races over time.
This is crazy. It's like, you know, well, I like
this guy's conservative. I think that that gets that'll boost
him up in the odds. No, I like this guy.
(01:14):
He's from Portugal's so it's it's really sorry. I don't
mean to be no.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, I'm glad you's.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Respectful to the to the church and this important selection.
But these betting sites are just they're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And I saw the figures. There's already been two hundred
million bet on the pope. So yeah, across the world,
and they have been betting on the pope since the
fifteen hundredths. Did you say two hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Million, Yeah, it's probably more than that. That was two
hundred million as of yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's true. Wow, Yeah, it was two hundred million as
of yesterday. And I'm gonna bet on on. I was
looking for a site yesterday so I could bet on
Cardinal Dolan because nobody knows, really, nobody knows who it's
gonna be. Every year we hear from these alleged pope
experts about what it's going to be, and it's rarely
(02:04):
that person.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, no, I agree, I track it and I'm interested.
That's clearly. Uh. People say, why would I be interested.
I'm not a Catholic, but I'm keenly interested because that's
a vital moral leader in the world. It's an ethics guy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So anyway, Second, who did you bet.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
On the guy who was the former secretary to H.
Francis the Pietro.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh now I see now, I think that the fact
that we've seen black smoke a few times now means
he's not going to get it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Uh huh. You think he would have just jumped in.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right away, being the pope expert that I am.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You know, I'm sorry I'm wasting time here. But the
other interesting aspect of this is I love the idea.
They go into seclusion and they can't really talk. They
just go there to boat and pray, and so you
have to kind of do all your haggling either before
the whole thing starts, which they were doing, but then
it's like lunch becomes really important because that's when you
(03:15):
talk to one another. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Here's the thing that gets me about the whole thing.
They have an electronic jammer, so that even if somebody
tries to sneak an electronic device and or grabs one,
it's gonna be jammed. Who don't they trust? These are
the cardinals, These are supposed to be the holiest of
the holy, they have to have a jammers did you see, Yeah, yeah, yeah, of.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Course there's a lot of wheeling and dealing amidst these
holy men. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh absolutely, Hey, you know what, we spent half the
time now talking about the pope betting and jamming the
electronic devices. Let's get to the GPS dart.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
At the place. Here's why it's an ethics issue. It's privacy.
If they shoot a dart at your car and then
follow you home, are they invading your privacy as your car,
so to speak, a kind of extension of your personal space.
They're not. You haven't been convicted of anything. They're just
tracking you around. But I'm gonna surprise you, Larry. I
(04:19):
like this idea, and I'll tell you why. Huge numbers
of people get injured and killed every year and police
chases so they see some nut you know, driving around erradically,
or they see someone fleeing the scene, and the cops
launch a high speed pursuit. It's dangerous. I'm not saying,
you know, I understand why they do it, but it's
(04:40):
a really dangerous thing. If you're a pedestrian, or you
get car crashes. A number of times people have hit
ambulances and things like that police, I mean chasing. So
I like the idea of being able to, particularly in
the city, shoot a dart, then track this thing, and
you don't have to do the high speed chase putting
(05:01):
people at risk. To me, that's the big advantage.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, no, I actually think it's a great idea. Doctor
Arthur Kaplan, professor of bioethics at New York University, Langone
Medical Center and papal expert. We really appreciate your time today,
especially with what's going on at the Vatican. Thanks so much,
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