Rich Lowry Editor in Chief Of The National Review Interview

Rich and Larry break down trump's doctrine. His middle east trip has produced investments for America but there could be some hurdles to get deals. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And with that, let's get to Rich Lowry, editor in
chief of the National Review. Good morning, Rich, it's gone.
So what is the Trump doctrine?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I think he gave a very important speech in Saudi
Arabia last week. During that speech where he outlined his
basic approach to foreign policy, which is that we're going
to focus on prosperity and peace. We're going to be
open to anyone coming in the charmed circle and becoming
rich and becoming friends with the United States. And the

(00:33):
metaphor of the speech was the gleaming towers there in
Riodd and throughout the Persian Gulf, and basically his message
is anyone can have gleaming towers, you know, you just
need to focus on getting rich, and I'm being friends
with us and not engaging in terrorism or warfare. So
in a way it's an idealistic speech. In a way,

(00:55):
it's not because it didn't focus on human rights or
democracy or any of that that have been tra pillars
of foreign policy at all. Now a little that may
have been his audience. You know, you don't preach about
that stuff in public, usually when you have a bunch
of a mirrors that you're talking to. But it's very interesting,
and I think it's important.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
You called it very interesting. Do you think it will work?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think it certainly. In the Gulf it's it's worked.
But the thing he didn't mention is that it's very
easy to have gleaming towers and be prosperous and peaceful
if you're sitting on a lot of oil and had
benefited from the US security umbrella for like fifty or

(01:41):
seventy years. So this was not an isolationist speech. In fact,
if you look at Trump's foreign policy, it's really in
many ways hyperactive on the foreign stage. Right. It's not
as though he's like, oh, we'll let Ukraine and Russia
sorted out. It's like, no, I want to end this thing,
and I'm talking to Putin and I want him to
go the Vatican and meet. So it's not isolationists. It's

(02:02):
just not what we're used to. But in a way
is very traditionally American. This is kind of a Hamiltonian
approach to foreign policy goes back to the Great Alexander Hamilton,
where one of the main points, if not the main point,
of foreign policy is commerce. We're going to cut deals
benefit our own companies. You get a lot of people
to agree to buy Boeing. So I don't think there's

(02:23):
anything wrong with that. I just think the you don't
want to miss our ideals, you don't want to neglect
our ideals, and the course of doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
But it has much more to do than just Saudi
Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and cutter because in
the Gold Towers that you were talking about, I mean
he reached out the Syria as well and normalize relations
with them. He's reached out the Lebanon. He's even reaching
out to a run if they get rid of their
nuclear weapons. So what you're talking about with this Trump
doctrine where we don't push ideology, we don't push morality,

(02:53):
We just care about commerce that could, if it works,
could change the world.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah. One thing he said in the speech, and obviously
is very very true to his way of doing business,
is he'll deal with anyone. You know, you saw it
with North Korea the first term, we saw it with Syria.
I mean, the guy who's running serious now is like
a big time Ji hottist. But it may be that
he's useful and turning his back to Iran and stopping

(03:20):
his rat lines supplying the rest of the Middle East
with weapons from Iran. So let's try it, same thing
with Iran. You know, let's let's talk. Let's see. So
I don't think this is wholly misbegotten at all. It's not.
It's not quite where I would be on foreign policy,
but you know, it's it's a theory, and everyone should

(03:40):
hope he's successful.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Absolutely, And it's been interesting that even some Democrats, many
Democrats as especially, have been praising him for this trip
as much as they can praise him, even though they
disagree with some of the things he does. Domestically. I
want to talk about President Biden and and and it's
important to always point out the two things that can
be true. We can feel for him and what he's

(04:01):
going through and still criticize the timing of this announcement
that he has well, he has advanced prostate cancer.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, so look, it's it's hard to know from the
outside what went on and did they just he just
didn't take PSA tests and they just didn't This highly
sensitive person who's very important was President of the United
States during four years of this period, just didn't get
this this test that you want to keep an eye
on with with someone who's so important, or they covered

(04:34):
it up, you know, and they don't get any benefit
of the doubt given they tried to lie about what
we saw in front of our own eyes, So why
wouldn't they lie about something they didn't have to disclose?
And certainly the timing, you know, again, I don't know
what happened, but the timing is highly suspicious because you're
damage control specialist trying to step on a story you
don't like, a book you don't like, and the book's

(04:54):
being released on Tuesday. What you would do is your
counter narrative on Sunday, that's when you'd release here news.
And of course we have a lot of Democrats saying, well,
let's not talk about any of the other stuff. Let's
let's just have sympathy. And we should have sympathy and
wish him well. This is a terrible diagnosis that no
one obviously would wish on him, and we all well

(05:15):
hope he deals with it as best as is possible.
But that doesn't mean that that we shouldn't discuss what happened.
It was one of the worst frauds portrayed on the
American public, and we have this book out this chapter
verse on it, and they're saying, on the day that
the book's being released, the week the book's being released,
let's stop having that conversation. It's awfully convenient.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Let's talk about the political theater. And I use that
term purposely of what is happening in New Jersey right
now with Alina Habba dropping charges against Ross Baraka and
now bringing charges against Congresswoman mcgiver. In a way, this
actually helps every one of them. That's the take I had.

(05:55):
What did you think of it?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah? Probably I have a little some of the video,
it's just a little hard to tell who's shoving home
And this is sort of like in sports terms, this
is an NBA fight, you know, this is not a
hockey brawl. Was throwing any punches, a little you know,
slappy pushes going on. But I think more fundamentally, it
is so absurd to protest an ICE facility that's just

(06:21):
holding illegal immigrants. Right, what do they want to happen?
I mean, what we know what they want to happen.
They want these people to be free and easy, and
they want more to come into the country. But this
isn't you know, a gulag or a torture Chamber. It's
just it's a professionally run facility to hold illegal immigrants,
and we need more of them. The law says they're
supposed to be detained.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah no, you're absolutely right. Thanks so much. Rich Lowry,
editor in chief of the National Review. Talk to you
again next week. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Thanks,