September 23, 2024 • 16 mins
This episode of MEternal LIVE hosted by Kenya Gipson and features special guests Angela Yee and Cara Marie, in a powerful conversation about women's health, maternal well-being, and the importance of early detection. This episode dives into the unique challenges women face in managing their health, offering candid discussions, expert insights, and personal stories of triumph. The hosts emphasize the critical need for regular checkups and recognizing symptoms early, empowering women to take control of their health and future. Listen for an honest conversation, real-life experiences, and a community of support for all women navigating their health journeys.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I'm really honored and privileged to sit next to
these two ladies right here. One of them I get
to work with pretty much every single day.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right, I see you, Yes, you still come in the office.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We gotta make money, so we got to show up
to pay your bills.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So, if you don't know this about Angela, Angela is
a radio Hall of Famer. She is the host of
the nationally syndicated show Weight with Me.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
How many markets?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Ooh, maybe like forty something? Yeah, And you.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Can listen to her every single day on iHeartRadio from ten.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
To two, yes, indeed, and on lib Service if you
want to get real frisky.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And then also joining us is Kara Maurice Orbello. She
is a veteran on MTV's The Challenge. And you have
a really interesting fibroid journey and story. So can you
tell us a little bit about how you discover that
you had fibroids?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Well, first of all, every time I posted on social media,
people would always be in my comments being like, oh
she pregnant? Is that a baby bomp? Is that a
baby bump? And I'm my whole everything I do is
fitness on the challenge. It's being strong. It's like I'm
always at the gym. I do have a dessert thing,
but it's fine. And I so I noticed that was happening.
(01:24):
I started getting like this lower belly protrusion. I started,
I'm like, am I bloating?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
What's wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I'm working out why is my lower belly sticking out
like this? And I started noticing like sex got painful,
so I almost like started to try to avoid that.
I'm a very sexual person, so I'm like, okay, and
that's something you don't really want to.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Talk about or explain.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I noticed there was a lot of pressure on me,
like I always had to pee, and I'm like, something's
not right. And the only way I discovered it, and
everybody always asks like how do you know, is I
went to my gynecologist just for a standard checkup that
you do, and I asked about my IUD that I
had because I couldn't feel the strings and I want
to make sure it was in place, and she couldn't
(02:06):
fail a strength, so she said, just go get a
quick ultrasound and we'll make sure that it's in place.
We want to make sure it didn't fall out or
anything or whatever, and.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I was like, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So I went and got checked and I remember the
woman as she was looking and they're not supposed to
say anything. The technician she's like, uh, do you do
you know about fibroids at all?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And I was like laying there, like fully exposed. I'm like,
I was like, I know.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
My mom was riddled with them, like they basically ruined
her life, and she refused to ever get help for it.
And so I was like no, And so I went
back in and they said I have a fibroid and
they said, well, we'll keep an eye on it for
like a year. I didn't know these things keep growing.
I didn't know anything about them that much. And by
(02:50):
the time I ended up getting help, my fibroid was
like sixteen centimeters. It was just huge. I mean you
literally could lay me on the floor and spin me
like a top because it felt like there was.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
A bowling ball in my lower belly.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
It was so hard and awful and ruining my life.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And originally I was told get surgery or get a hysterectomy,
and by the way, you'll never be held out have
kids or get pregnant unless you get this taken care of,
You're not gonna be able to bring a baby to term,
and if that's something that I was looking to do.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Later in my life.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And so I ended up going to social media about
it and I said, I know you guys always asked
if I'm pregnant or what this lower belly thing is.
Apparently I have fibroids sixteen centimes. I'm nervous.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I don't know what to do or how to go
about it.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I'm on my own insurance that I pay for and
a bunch of and I was scared because I went
to see a surgeon and he said, we want to
put you on lupron. Your fibroid is so big that
if we get into it, you could bleed out. So
you're at the point where you would have I was
right at the verge of having to have a hysterectomy
(03:54):
because it was almost too big to even get surgery on.
And I didn't know embolization was an option this point.
He said, I have to be on lupron. Lupron puts
you in menopause, reversible menopause. I went and read all
about this. I'm freaking out about what's about to happening
because I got a film, a TV show. I'm on
a reality TV show in another country with can you
(04:15):
imagine me on menopause while on this crazy competitive reality
TV show, I'm like, I don't even I'm freaking out.
So I spoke about my journey and said, well, I'm
gonna have to go on this lupron, I'm gonna have
to get this surgery. And a bunch of people reached
out to me and said, have you ever thought of embolization?
Is that something you can try? And I ended up
(04:36):
talking to doctor White. Fibroid Centers reached out to me
and that changed everything for me, and I ended up
getting the umbilization and that was a game changer.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So that was my journey. That's a great story.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And Angeliae, you were just talking today about fibroids on
your show.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right, Well, yeah, that's something that we discussed a lot
from even when I was on the Breakfast Club and
now we've had like a few discussions just because for me,
being a black woman, I know how much it affects
our community and being a woman in general, it affects
us so much. This is something that I heard about
the first time was when I went to the doctor
just to get everything checked out, and we were talking
(05:17):
about like having kids at some point, and she was like, well,
let me check and see, and she really just pushed
my stomach. She was like, it doesn't feel like you
have fibriids, but if you do, it wouldn't be anything big.
And that was the first time I even heard of it,
so I didn't even know what that was. And you know,
we started having these conversations at work about it, and
I remember one woman came on the show. She had
fifty fibroids, which was I mean, that's ridiculously extreme, and
(05:42):
she said it was so bad, and we had her
on the show as a guest. She said it was
so bad that she couldn't have a job. She literally
could not work, she couldn't date anybody. It basically ruined
her whole entire life because she didn't want to go out.
She was bleeding all the time, heavily, like we've discussed,
and she was pain and she.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Just felt awful. She could.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
She was like, I can't even go to work and
do anything. And so that was when it really became
something that was a state of emergency. And I've worked
on you know, I've worked with coach Jesse, who does
a lot of things as far as diet and working
with you for detoxes and things like that. But you know,
when I found out about uterine fibri embolization, I was like,
this is something that I didn't even know about as
(06:24):
an option because I've always thought like, Okay, hysterectomy, mayamectomy.
I've had a lot of people in my life tell
me that they, you know, had to get that. I've
had people get mayamectamies. I know it's an awful surgery
to have to undergo, and it's a terrible recovery time
people are thinking about having kids. Somebody really close to
me had fibraids while she was pregnant and it was
(06:45):
so bad she could not get out of the bed literally,
and she was in pain. She was crying. She thought
she wouldn't be able to have her baby. So I
know what a crippling thing this is. So this is
just something that I've always been very intentional about bringing
these conversations to the forefront. And to know that I've
had people listen to my show and say I had
a hysterectomy schedule, and I canceled it after listening to
(07:09):
your show because I didn't know about these other options
like call in and say thank you so much because
now I didn't have to do that.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
That's so good to hear.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I mean, Doctor katz Nelson, you were on the Maternal
Podcast a few months back, and you were sharing a
story about a young lady who was on Instagram who
basically had decided she had gotten a hysterectomy based on
her doctor's diagnosis, right, and it was kind of like
too late for her right when she had went in
that direction. And I love to hear you say that
(07:39):
your platform has inspired women to kind of get a
second opinion, because Cara, that's how you kind of ended
up in a better position, because you went to doctor
White as a second opinion to what you had going on.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Just I've I remember talking to my mom about the
five words and she was under the like, it's not
a big deal.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Just deal with it, Like it's not a big deal.
Like I had fibroids.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I dealt with it, And she's like, why would you
want to talk about it on social media? She was
actually trying to disuade me from talking about it. I
understand it's not sexy to talk about, like, oh, I
have these growths and my uterus, Like it's really not
sexy at all. But I was like, I have to
speak on this because so many women are so quiet
when issues happen to us, we just deal with it
(08:22):
in silence. And that's what I heard these other women
speaking about. And I was like, I'm going to document
my journey, what I'm discovering, the things that I'm trying,
and what I'm going through because I know there's going
to be other people that it can help that have
no idea what's going on with them. And so I
have been actively. The women on social media helped me,
and I want to help also spread awareness because you
(08:46):
there's so many symptoms and different things that women are
going through, and even when they go to their doctor,
it's it's like you could go to five different doctors
and they're like, ah, don't worry about it, Ah wait
a year, or you'll be fine living with it. And
so I just want people to be able to see
all of their options and do what's best for them
and their body. And if something isn't right and you
(09:08):
know it ain't right. Unfortunately, we have to fight for ourselves.
So do that and if you're not getting the answer
that makes sense to you, then find another doctor who
will listen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So I think it's also important to know your body,
you know, just like to know something's wrong and doesn't
it doesn't feel right, and to be able to explain
that to your doctor and advocate for yourself, because it
can be something that people brush off.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, unless you want to have kids, don't even worry
about it because you'll get rid of them and then
they'll come back and you hear all kinds of things.
But when you know there's something wrong and this isn't
right and this shouldn't be happening, some people think that
they're supposed to have their period for ten days and
that that's normal, and that's not a normal thing to happen.
And literally a lot of times we put ourselves last
(09:55):
when it comes to working and everything else going on
and everybody else around us. Like right now, I am
currently trying to get somebody who I met through work
to go to USA fibrary centers. I'm like, girl, take
care of yourself because she's miserable, and I'm like, just
go take a you know, take a couple of days
off from work and do what you need.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
She's like, I can, I have to work. We're in
airway in these meetings.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm like, but it's gonna You'll be so much more
productive when you handle things for yourself. But a lot
of times we are like, we have to be at work,
we have to take care of the family, we have
to hold this down, and we put ourselves last, and
at the end, that's only gonna end up making things
worse for everybody around you, for your job, for your family,
for everything you have going on.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
One thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So I wanted to ask you both, what can we
do as women to empower one another, to kind of
stand up for ourselves and start asking those right questions
when we do go see a doctor.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Uh, Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
The more like, as soon as I found out what
I had, I read everything I could about it and
sharing that with with your friends with like like they
were saying, if you've got five followers, or a thousand
followers or one hundred thousand followers, like, share it because
you never know who you're helping. And I've had so
many women message me from my tiktoks and my instagrams.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
The amount of comments is just insane of.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
People who have dealt with it and that they have
gone to get checked out because of seeing my stuff,
and it's it's so important that we just share that
with each other and nobody.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
So many people don't know that UFI is an option.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Like I remember being infuriated after seeing that surgeon and
being like, I have to go on lubron, I have
to like do all this because UFI it seems like
such a simple thing, like okay.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You like, it can't be that easy.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
We have to get cut open or have our uters
ripped out, because how can it be so easy to
go in for half an hour, get get you know,
the fybroid blocked off, and then it starts to shrink
and you get your life back to normal, like and
you're back to your regular life and you can go
work out in.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
A week, Like it can't be that easy, but it is.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And a surgeon is never going to tell you that
because their job is to cut. A radiologist operates a
different way, and so you have to talk to both.
Depending where your fibroid is, how big it is, what
you're looking to do, do you want children, you have
to have all the options available to you. And knowledge
is power, and unfortunately so many people just don't know.
(12:19):
So you got to arm yourself with power and let
everybody else know.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And I think for myself, just having the platform that
I have and making sure that we talk about it.
I think it's as fibrated Awareness month, you know as well,
and so these conversations should be happening year round, but
let's make sure we elevate that, you know, And we've
had these conversations on my show as well. And I
try to ask all the questions, you know, me, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You tell me this.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm like, okay, so what happens if they come back?
So what happens at this? So all of those things
you need to know. Don't be afraid to ask because
it is something that is for you, that affects your
life and spread the world. I think that's really important.
Like just make sure that if somebody's talking to you,
If you have a friend. I have a friend who's
always like when I get my period, I don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
She cancels all her plans, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And it's like, well, girl, maybe you need to see
if this is something that you know you might have vibraids.
If you feel like you're bleeding heavily, you can't get
out of bed, you can't do this, you're fatigued, you
literally feel nauseous, it might be something that you should
check into because that's not normal to feel like that.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And fibroids don't discriminate.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Right at the end of the day, so I want
to thank you both for being here today.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I'm eternal.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
As we close out, I would say, what advice would
you give to women right now who may be sitting
in a spot where they don't feel empowered, or they're
experiencing symptoms and they're afraid to step forward.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's just gonna get worse if you don't do something today.
Like a lot of times, like the whole thought of
the whole process, what do I do? Who do I
talk to? Which doctor? It's extremely overwhelming. So a lot
of times it's too overwhelming. We don't want to start.
But think about a year from now if you started today,
where you'll be. So if you just take that first stop,
(14:09):
like like I did, I was, I was terrified. I
didn't know who to talk to her, what to do? Doctor,
White was You're incredible, answered every question I had, like
the kindest, most knowledgeable man.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And that's a place to start. You're right here refer
doctor White.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Like go talk to him, but don't wait, because the
longer you wait, the bigger the problem is going to be.
So take it one day, one step at a time,
and you can do anything.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And to see everybody who's been on this day talking
about it, first of all, yeah, I look amazing, like
just to see I mean, you know, so it makes
you see that you can come through on the other side.
But the worst thing to do is to not take action.
And that comes when there's something in your life that
is burdening you and you keep on putting it off
and procrastinating. You have to take action, whether that's you know,
paying your taxes or making sure you handle all those
(15:02):
bill collectors calling you, but taking care of.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Your body and yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know, you cannot procrastinate when it comes to that,
and you'll be so much happier. Just envision yourself on
the other side, you know, being able to go out,
having periods that are four days instead of twelve days,
being able to go on days, being able to enjoy
sex again, all of those things are important, and so
just envision yourself on the other side of that and
do not be inactive.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Handle it.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I have some quick advice to close this out.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Go visit USA Fibroid Centers right to set up your consultation.
They have a great team there. Doctor Jon Katznelson and
his team are brilliant. They'll make sure that you get
the quality of care that you need. And don't wait,
don't hesitate, take care of yourself today.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Sound good?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Say yes, all right, good, good, good, all right, Well,
thank you for listening to me, Turnal. You can check
out me eternal at meternal dot info. We have a
lot of health and wallness information up there as well
as well as podcast content with USA Fibroid Center.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Thank you both for being here today.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I appreciate you all all right,
So I'm really honored and privileged to sit next to
these two ladies right here. One of them I get
to work with pretty much every single day.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right, I see you, Yes, you still come in the office.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We gotta make money, so we got to show up
to pay your bills.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So, if you don't know this about Angela, Angela is
a radio Hall of Famer. She is the host of
the nationally syndicated show Weight with Me.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
How many markets?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Ooh, maybe like forty something? Yeah, And you.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Can listen to her every single day on iHeartRadio from ten.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
To two, yes, indeed, and on lib Service if you
want to get real frisky.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And then also joining us is Kara Maurice Orbello. She
is a veteran on MTV's The Challenge. And you have
a really interesting fibroid journey and story. So can you
tell us a little bit about how you discover that
you had fibroids?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Well, first of all, every time I posted on social media,
people would always be in my comments being like, oh
she pregnant? Is that a baby bomp? Is that a
baby bump? And I'm my whole everything I do is
fitness on the challenge. It's being strong. It's like I'm
always at the gym. I do have a dessert thing,
but it's fine. And I so I noticed that was happening.
(01:24):
I started getting like this lower belly protrusion. I started,
I'm like, am I bloating?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
What's wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I'm working out why is my lower belly sticking out
like this? And I started noticing like sex got painful,
so I almost like started to try to avoid that.
I'm a very sexual person, so I'm like, okay, and
that's something you don't really want to.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Talk about or explain.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I noticed there was a lot of pressure on me,
like I always had to pee, and I'm like, something's
not right. And the only way I discovered it, and
everybody always asks like how do you know, is I
went to my gynecologist just for a standard checkup that
you do, and I asked about my IUD that I
had because I couldn't feel the strings and I want
to make sure it was in place, and she couldn't
(02:06):
fail a strength, so she said, just go get a
quick ultrasound and we'll make sure that it's in place.
We want to make sure it didn't fall out or
anything or whatever, and.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I was like, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So I went and got checked and I remember the
woman as she was looking and they're not supposed to
say anything. The technician she's like, uh, do you do
you know about fibroids at all?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And I was like laying there, like fully exposed. I'm like,
I was like, I know.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
My mom was riddled with them, like they basically ruined
her life, and she refused to ever get help for it.
And so I was like no, And so I went
back in and they said I have a fibroid and
they said, well, we'll keep an eye on it for
like a year. I didn't know these things keep growing.
I didn't know anything about them that much. And by
(02:50):
the time I ended up getting help, my fibroid was
like sixteen centimeters. It was just huge. I mean you
literally could lay me on the floor and spin me
like a top because it felt like there was.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
A bowling ball in my lower belly.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
It was so hard and awful and ruining my life.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And originally I was told get surgery or get a hysterectomy,
and by the way, you'll never be held out have
kids or get pregnant unless you get this taken care of,
You're not gonna be able to bring a baby to term,
and if that's something that I was looking to do.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Later in my life.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And so I ended up going to social media about
it and I said, I know you guys always asked
if I'm pregnant or what this lower belly thing is.
Apparently I have fibroids sixteen centimes. I'm nervous.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I don't know what to do or how to go
about it.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I'm on my own insurance that I pay for and
a bunch of and I was scared because I went
to see a surgeon and he said, we want to
put you on lupron. Your fibroid is so big that
if we get into it, you could bleed out. So
you're at the point where you would have I was
right at the verge of having to have a hysterectomy
(03:54):
because it was almost too big to even get surgery on.
And I didn't know embolization was an option this point.
He said, I have to be on lupron. Lupron puts
you in menopause, reversible menopause. I went and read all
about this. I'm freaking out about what's about to happening
because I got a film, a TV show. I'm on
a reality TV show in another country with can you
(04:15):
imagine me on menopause while on this crazy competitive reality
TV show, I'm like, I don't even I'm freaking out.
So I spoke about my journey and said, well, I'm
gonna have to go on this lupron, I'm gonna have
to get this surgery. And a bunch of people reached
out to me and said, have you ever thought of embolization?
Is that something you can try? And I ended up
(04:36):
talking to doctor White. Fibroid Centers reached out to me
and that changed everything for me, and I ended up
getting the umbilization and that was a game changer.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So that was my journey. That's a great story.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And Angeliae, you were just talking today about fibroids on
your show.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right, Well, yeah, that's something that we discussed a lot
from even when I was on the Breakfast Club and
now we've had like a few discussions just because for me,
being a black woman, I know how much it affects
our community and being a woman in general, it affects
us so much. This is something that I heard about
the first time was when I went to the doctor
just to get everything checked out, and we were talking
(05:17):
about like having kids at some point, and she was like, well,
let me check and see, and she really just pushed
my stomach. She was like, it doesn't feel like you
have fibriids, but if you do, it wouldn't be anything big.
And that was the first time I even heard of it,
so I didn't even know what that was. And you know,
we started having these conversations at work about it, and
I remember one woman came on the show. She had
fifty fibroids, which was I mean, that's ridiculously extreme, and
(05:42):
she said it was so bad, and we had her
on the show as a guest. She said it was
so bad that she couldn't have a job. She literally
could not work, she couldn't date anybody. It basically ruined
her whole entire life because she didn't want to go out.
She was bleeding all the time, heavily, like we've discussed,
and she was pain and she.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Just felt awful. She could.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
She was like, I can't even go to work and
do anything. And so that was when it really became
something that was a state of emergency. And I've worked
on you know, I've worked with coach Jesse, who does
a lot of things as far as diet and working
with you for detoxes and things like that. But you know,
when I found out about uterine fibri embolization, I was like,
this is something that I didn't even know about as
(06:24):
an option because I've always thought like, Okay, hysterectomy, mayamectomy.
I've had a lot of people in my life tell
me that they, you know, had to get that. I've
had people get mayamectamies. I know it's an awful surgery
to have to undergo, and it's a terrible recovery time
people are thinking about having kids. Somebody really close to
me had fibraids while she was pregnant and it was
(06:45):
so bad she could not get out of the bed literally,
and she was in pain. She was crying. She thought
she wouldn't be able to have her baby. So I
know what a crippling thing this is. So this is
just something that I've always been very intentional about bringing
these conversations to the forefront. And to know that I've
had people listen to my show and say I had
a hysterectomy schedule, and I canceled it after listening to
(07:09):
your show because I didn't know about these other options
like call in and say thank you so much because
now I didn't have to do that.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
That's so good to hear.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I mean, Doctor katz Nelson, you were on the Maternal
Podcast a few months back, and you were sharing a
story about a young lady who was on Instagram who
basically had decided she had gotten a hysterectomy based on
her doctor's diagnosis, right, and it was kind of like
too late for her right when she had went in
that direction. And I love to hear you say that
(07:39):
your platform has inspired women to kind of get a
second opinion, because Cara, that's how you kind of ended
up in a better position, because you went to doctor
White as a second opinion to what you had going on.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Just I've I remember talking to my mom about the
five words and she was under the like, it's not
a big deal.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Just deal with it, Like it's not a big deal.
Like I had fibroids.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I dealt with it, And she's like, why would you
want to talk about it on social media? She was
actually trying to disuade me from talking about it. I
understand it's not sexy to talk about, like, oh, I
have these growths and my uterus, Like it's really not
sexy at all. But I was like, I have to
speak on this because so many women are so quiet
when issues happen to us, we just deal with it
(08:22):
in silence. And that's what I heard these other women
speaking about. And I was like, I'm going to document
my journey, what I'm discovering, the things that I'm trying,
and what I'm going through because I know there's going
to be other people that it can help that have
no idea what's going on with them. And so I
have been actively. The women on social media helped me,
and I want to help also spread awareness because you
(08:46):
there's so many symptoms and different things that women are
going through, and even when they go to their doctor,
it's it's like you could go to five different doctors
and they're like, ah, don't worry about it, Ah wait
a year, or you'll be fine living with it. And
so I just want people to be able to see
all of their options and do what's best for them
and their body. And if something isn't right and you
(09:08):
know it ain't right. Unfortunately, we have to fight for ourselves.
So do that and if you're not getting the answer
that makes sense to you, then find another doctor who
will listen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So I think it's also important to know your body,
you know, just like to know something's wrong and doesn't
it doesn't feel right, and to be able to explain
that to your doctor and advocate for yourself, because it
can be something that people brush off.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, unless you want to have kids, don't even worry
about it because you'll get rid of them and then
they'll come back and you hear all kinds of things.
But when you know there's something wrong and this isn't
right and this shouldn't be happening, some people think that
they're supposed to have their period for ten days and
that that's normal, and that's not a normal thing to happen.
And literally a lot of times we put ourselves last
(09:55):
when it comes to working and everything else going on
and everybody else around us. Like right now, I am
currently trying to get somebody who I met through work
to go to USA fibrary centers. I'm like, girl, take
care of yourself because she's miserable, and I'm like, just
go take a you know, take a couple of days
off from work and do what you need.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
She's like, I can, I have to work. We're in
airway in these meetings.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm like, but it's gonna You'll be so much more
productive when you handle things for yourself. But a lot
of times we are like, we have to be at work,
we have to take care of the family, we have
to hold this down, and we put ourselves last, and
at the end, that's only gonna end up making things
worse for everybody around you, for your job, for your family,
for everything you have going on.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
One thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So I wanted to ask you both, what can we
do as women to empower one another, to kind of
stand up for ourselves and start asking those right questions
when we do go see a doctor.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Uh, Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
The more like, as soon as I found out what
I had, I read everything I could about it and
sharing that with with your friends with like like they
were saying, if you've got five followers, or a thousand
followers or one hundred thousand followers, like, share it because
you never know who you're helping. And I've had so
many women message me from my tiktoks and my instagrams.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
The amount of comments is just insane of.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
People who have dealt with it and that they have
gone to get checked out because of seeing my stuff,
and it's it's so important that we just share that
with each other and nobody.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
So many people don't know that UFI is an option.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Like I remember being infuriated after seeing that surgeon and
being like, I have to go on lubron, I have
to like do all this because UFI it seems like
such a simple thing, like okay.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You like, it can't be that easy.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
We have to get cut open or have our uters
ripped out, because how can it be so easy to
go in for half an hour, get get you know,
the fybroid blocked off, and then it starts to shrink
and you get your life back to normal, like and
you're back to your regular life and you can go
work out in.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
A week, Like it can't be that easy, but it is.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And a surgeon is never going to tell you that
because their job is to cut. A radiologist operates a
different way, and so you have to talk to both.
Depending where your fibroid is, how big it is, what
you're looking to do, do you want children, you have
to have all the options available to you. And knowledge
is power, and unfortunately so many people just don't know.
(12:19):
So you got to arm yourself with power and let
everybody else know.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And I think for myself, just having the platform that
I have and making sure that we talk about it.
I think it's as fibrated Awareness month, you know as well,
and so these conversations should be happening year round, but
let's make sure we elevate that, you know, And we've
had these conversations on my show as well. And I
try to ask all the questions, you know, me, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You tell me this.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm like, okay, so what happens if they come back?
So what happens at this? So all of those things
you need to know. Don't be afraid to ask because
it is something that is for you, that affects your
life and spread the world. I think that's really important.
Like just make sure that if somebody's talking to you,
If you have a friend. I have a friend who's
always like when I get my period, I don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
She cancels all her plans, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And it's like, well, girl, maybe you need to see
if this is something that you know you might have vibraids.
If you feel like you're bleeding heavily, you can't get
out of bed, you can't do this, you're fatigued, you
literally feel nauseous, it might be something that you should
check into because that's not normal to feel like that.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And fibroids don't discriminate.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Right at the end of the day, so I want
to thank you both for being here today.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I'm eternal.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
As we close out, I would say, what advice would
you give to women right now who may be sitting
in a spot where they don't feel empowered, or they're
experiencing symptoms and they're afraid to step forward.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's just gonna get worse if you don't do something today.
Like a lot of times, like the whole thought of
the whole process, what do I do? Who do I
talk to? Which doctor? It's extremely overwhelming. So a lot
of times it's too overwhelming. We don't want to start.
But think about a year from now if you started today,
where you'll be. So if you just take that first stop,
(14:09):
like like I did, I was, I was terrified. I
didn't know who to talk to her, what to do? Doctor,
White was You're incredible, answered every question I had, like
the kindest, most knowledgeable man.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And that's a place to start. You're right here refer
doctor White.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Like go talk to him, but don't wait, because the
longer you wait, the bigger the problem is going to be.
So take it one day, one step at a time,
and you can do anything.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And to see everybody who's been on this day talking
about it, first of all, yeah, I look amazing, like
just to see I mean, you know, so it makes
you see that you can come through on the other side.
But the worst thing to do is to not take action.
And that comes when there's something in your life that
is burdening you and you keep on putting it off
and procrastinating. You have to take action, whether that's you know,
paying your taxes or making sure you handle all those
(15:02):
bill collectors calling you, but taking care of.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Your body and yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know, you cannot procrastinate when it comes to that,
and you'll be so much happier. Just envision yourself on
the other side, you know, being able to go out,
having periods that are four days instead of twelve days,
being able to go on days, being able to enjoy
sex again, all of those things are important, and so
just envision yourself on the other side of that and
do not be inactive.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Handle it.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I have some quick advice to close this out.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Go visit USA Fibroid Centers right to set up your consultation.
They have a great team there. Doctor Jon Katznelson and
his team are brilliant. They'll make sure that you get
the quality of care that you need. And don't wait,
don't hesitate, take care of yourself today.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Sound good?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Say yes, all right, good, good, good, all right, Well,
thank you for listening to me, Turnal. You can check
out me eternal at meternal dot info. We have a
lot of health and wallness information up there as well
as well as podcast content with USA Fibroid Center.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Thank you both for being here today.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I appreciate you all all right,
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