November 14, 2025 • 39 mins
Mike Dugar joins the show for his weekly visit to talk all things Seahawks as they prepare for a showdown versus the Los Angeles Rams. MJ and Kidd read back messages from listeners, and Ian Furness joins MJ to share what he has planned on his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's MJ in the midday on a Thursday, just three
days away from the biggest regular season game in recent
Seahawks history. And I don't think I'm being hyperbolic by
saying that. Mark James along, Christopher Kid here with you
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until one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We've been slammed all week long. Don't forget.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Come on out to Muckleshute Casino Resort Galaxy on Sunday
for the Seattle away Game Rumble Watch Party. I'll be
there early before kickoff. There'll be plenty of giveaways, KGr
T shirts. The Corona and Modello Girls will be there.
There'll be stuff to give away from Muckleshote Casino Resort.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So come on out.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We had a packed house for the Commander's game on
Sunday night. This is an earlier start at one, but
the biggest game of the year. And Mike Dugar joins us.
He does see OWKXS mana Man podcast with Christopher Kidd
each and every week wherever you find podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Mike, can you when you're looking back.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You've been with the athletic for a while and you
grew up in the PNW. When was the last regular
season game of this magnitude where you thought that the
Seahawks had potentially legitimate chance to make a run at
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What year would that ben? Twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, I was just I have a story, right, I
give the answer to this on the Athletic. Shameless plug No.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, shameless no no, no, we want you gotta plug.
I'll tell us what is what's the title of the article.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's a good question, something my editor came up with.
I'm sure, but I think it's so. You just go
to the Athletic over the Seahawks page. Yeah, it's right.
It should be right there at the top. That's called
the the Seahawks' biggest game in years is here. Mike
McDonald was hired to win it. We'd get into the
McDonald implications a little later, but I think so I
have two possibilities to answer your question. I think in
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the regular season finale in twenty twenty, they had a
shot at the one seed, albeit a slim one. They
needed to beat the Niners, which they did, and they
needed the Bears to lose to the Packers. And I
think they needed the Panthers to beat the Saints all
those games kicked off at the same time, so they
didn't know the results, so they played it like they
had a shot. The other team ended up letting them down.
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In twenty nineteen, in the regular season finale on Sunday
Night Football, the final game of the regular season for
the entire league, they played the Niners at home. The
winner got the one seed, loser got the five. Which
is that I think is probably a more relevant example
here to compare to this game, because other results around
the league aren't as aren't as relevant, you know, So yeah,
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this is this is as big as at least five
years or you know, you can call it six years,
and it's easily and this is relevant too, easily the
biggest game with Mike McDonald's senior here, and I think
we'll learn quite a bit about him too, and how
his team comes out for this one.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
A couple of things before the season began, I didn't expect.
I mean, we knew the Seahawks defense would be really good.
I didn't know that this team would be as great
as they are right now. That here's another thing I
didn't have before the season. Like Matthew Stafford, who's going
to be thirty eight before next year's Super Bowl in
Santa Clara. I didn't have him having his best career
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year ever and right now would be the odds on
favorite for the MVP. Now you put that all in
a blender as we go into Sunday, what stands out
the most to you that you didn't see in preseason
for this game?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah? I mean with with Stafford, Remember, he just wasn't
out there. I think he had like back problems or
something like that. And I'm like, okay, you're thirty seven.
You got you waking up with a bad back or
whatever he's dealing with. Oh well, this guy's done. You know.
The talent was whatever time we had seen Stafford prior
to this season, he was in the snow slinging it
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against the you know, eventual Super Bowl champions. Right the
games the champs probably their their most difficult game of
the preseason, you know, excuse me, of the playoffs in
the snow. So I was like, I know he can
throw the ball, but like physically can he throw the ball?
You know, he's just he's just slaying it all over
the place. You know. I didn't it with great efficiency
as well. I didn't think that their defense the Rams
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would be like this good. I know the front will
be good, but the whole thing is coming together. They
didn't to trade from per some cornerback help, but that
was really just because the Keller Witherspoon got hurt. You know,
if Keller was healthy, I don't think they would have
needed kid they got from Tennessee. So yeah, I think
the last thing, I just didn't expect both of these
teams to be pretty much mirror images of one another.
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You know, they're both their fronts are dominant, Both their
quarterbacks are swinging it. Both their lead receivers are are
tearing it up, which I guess you maybe could have
predicted for that to this extent with Jacks, you know,
like they're they're just really really really really really good teams.
Their coaches are finding new ways to get it done.
You know, as the play caller on the respective side
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of the ball, it really is, we might be watching
the two best teams in the league, you know, play
on Sunday. I know that some Colts fans, some Patriots
fans may bust back at that. Maybe even some Eagles
fans delusion those they may be, but yeah, you can
make a really strong case that Rams Seahawks is not
only a matchup of the best in the NFC West,
the best in the NFC and two best teams in
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the league.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
A lot of people are saying that, And you know, Mike,
I've only been here just nine months so and I've
heard from enough sports fans here in Seattle to talk
when they've talked about not getting the respect, getting a
lot of shade thrown at with Seattle sports teams or
the course of history. And I can see that other
than really the Legion of Boom era and maybe the
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Ken Griffy Junior era, you know, I can see that
people have having that, you know, and now being on
the inside looking out, I can see that here's the difference.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now everybody's saying the Seattle Seahawks are the best team
in the NFL, CBS Sports dot Com, NFL dot com.
We're having the guy at tomorrow who did the power rankings,
Pete Prisco at cbssports dot Com. I'm a little worried,
I think, could you know, it's just one of those
natural things, Mike, where you know, I I'd rather be
the hunter than the hunted, and I think right now, oh,
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Seattle all super Bowl forty nine rematch Patriots Seahawks. Hold on,
let's pump the brakes, because that team, like you said
in LA is pretty damn good. And so is that
something that you think can seep into the locker room
or do you think that they are so laser focused,
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as if they've got adderall running through their veins, that
they're not gonna let any of that outside noise kind
of make them feel as Nick Saban would say, rat poison.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I think that coaches always tried to, you know,
mitigate the impact of any outside noise. See Mike McDonald's
acting about that this week. You know, it's like it's
just noise. And I'm sure that there are a lot
of guys who that's very easy, you know. I was
watching an interview with Leondard Williams. He said he has
a rule, you know, they don't get on his phone
until twenty four hours after every game, win or lose.
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I thought that was cool. I didn't know that about him.
Bobby Wagoner was pretty similar about how he embraced the
outside world. He said he only has like social media
for basically business purposes. It's like he was like, if
I wasn't an athlete. I had no way I'd have
this thing that makes sense, and DK had to go
off social media. I think in you're like four or five,
and he's like, I can't, I can't use it as
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too toxic. So I mean, if every guy varies, but
I mean, it's just too many guys in that locker room. Man,
there's like seventy dudes of all varying ages. I think
Nicky even Worri's twenty one. I think j Ree is
like thirty three or something like that. Cups thirty three,
thirty two. So you just got the wide spectrum. There
is my point. I bring that up because yes, for
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some guys, no for others, there are hard the the
guys who smell themselves. You're like, man, I'm killing it. Man,
we're killing it, you know, telling their people back home,
their whole high school teammates, the college teammates, their family know,
we lit let's you know, we get the tickets to
the Bowl. We're going, you know. And there's some guys like, hey,
young and shut up, do your job, show up and
get this this work in. I think it's just every team,
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not just the Seahawks. They have to have the guys
who are focused and ignore us, you know, outweigh the
guys who are maybe reading their reading their press clippings,
which feels like that's dating all of us using that
term press clippings. But yeah, you know, reading what the
tweets say, reading the Instagram stuff. You know they do.
I go to the locker room mark after the game.
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Half these guys are on their phones right away, naked,
and then the towel on their phone scroll on Instagram,
looking at highlights that got tagged in, you know, looking
at their interception, looking at their tackle, looking at the
catch they made. You know, I'm around the same age
as some of these guys. But I think the most
important thing I think a coach today can do, besides
motivate his players, is to get the new lock in.
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We can ignore that stuff because it's maybe the most
difficult task of anybody in leadership position like in today,
whether you're in business or sports, to get people to
get off their phones and focus on whatever you guys
got going.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No doubt, we live in a society. I mean, listen, man,
just walk down any street in the entire country MIC
and when you walk by someone, their head is down
and their phone is in their right or left hand.
That just that's the way the world is. And unfortunately,
you might be driving next to somebody and their head
is down looking at their phone.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's the world we live in.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
The you know these phones, someone has said like they
are they are like almost surgically attached to our anatomies.
Now that we can't, we just can't. I'm literally uh
And that's just the way. Unfortunately, that's an indictment on society.
This team, though, I feel that once John Schneider got
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the reins and he brought in Mike McDonald from Baltimore,
and then he wanted to go with his guy Ryan Grubb.
Mike McDonald said, we try to earway, I want my
guy Clint Kubiak. Obviously we're seeing the residual effects of that.
Mike McDonald made the right choice on that one. This team,
I believe when you talk about you kind of said
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something mirror images. I believe that this team is built
just kind of like the nineties Bulls were after a
while to take down the bad Boys. The back to
back NBA World champion Detroit Pistons with Zeke Isaiah and
Joe Dumars and Rodman and John Sally and Bill Lambier.
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This Seahawks team is like, it's like John Schneider, let's
need Sean McVeigh, Mike McDonald, right, and you can just
see the correlations.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Click Kubiak Chris Shula.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And that's why I think these teams are arguably, or
not even arguing, maybe inarguably the best two teams in
the NFL. Do you think John Schneider when he got
the reins to take this over and they let Pete
go that he was like, here, there's the template. They
won the Super Bowl four years ago. We need to
take them down, and we're gonna build our franchise just
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so we can take this team down.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't even say just it's the
Rams and the Niners. I think you know in this
story that I shamelessly plugged earlier. I was looking it up.
So I mean Shanahan mc they both showed up in
twenty seventeen. Right, there's been eight division winners. I believe
since they showed up, they have seven of those together.
They've made the conference championship games six times. They've made
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four Super Bowls in this span that I'm talking about. Obviously,
the Rams won one. They are the standard that they
are in the wet they are. The Seahawks have won
one division title in that span. It's the COVID year
A twenty twenty. And how did this season end? They
lost it home to the Rams. You know, there was
no fans at Lonman or whatever it's called at the time.
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But still that Sean mcsvan, Kyle Shanahan. Seahawk fans may
not want to hear, but they are the standard out
here and that's the number is supported. The accolades support it, right.
So yeah, if you are if you are a GM
and you're a head coach out West, whether you're Jonathan
Gannon in the Cardinals GM or the John Schnyder and
Mike McDonald, your goal is to slay the dragons and
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it just happens to be two. But I think the
same thing is true. Let's look at the AFC West,
for instance, Andy Reid, if Katrick Mahomes are the standard,
if you get hired by the Chargers, Raiders or Broncos,
that is your job. Go beat Andy Reid, Go win
the division. You know, I think Obama was still president
last time that the Chiefs didn't win the division, Like
that that's a big deal there in the West. The
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AFC East is becoming the same thing, you know, like
you got to go beat Buffalo, go beat Josh Allen.
If we hire you to coach the Dolphin the Jets
of the Patriots, right, that's the thing, And that's by
Mike Rabel. I'm sure they're really excited up there because
it looks like they can they can do that. So yeah,
there's a strong correlation. I don't have any numbers to
support this, but if there's a guy in your division
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that you can't beat, you will not be employed there
very long. I can. I almost can assure you that's
the case. Harbaugh and Tomlin have gone back and forth
enough to have some job security. But look at the Browns.
How long is Zach Taylor gonna be there in Sincy
if he can't beat Harbaugh and Tomlin? Not long? I'm
pretty sure, you know, so, no matter if Joe Burrow's
healthy or not. So yeah, I think that's that is
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why Mike McDonald was hired to beat Kyle Sanhan and
beat Sean McVay like this. That's why this game is
so important.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It is and let me let me put this.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I saw a stat the other day Mike Dugar from
the Athletic and of course does the Seahawks Man's Man
podcast with our very own Christopher Kid each and every week.
Great job, those guys, they break down the film, they
go all twenty two, you name it. How about this, Mike,
you look ready for the stat? Seattle owns an eleven
point four points per game different in the first half
this season. It's the highest by any team in either
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half since, in my opinion, the greatest football team I've
ever seen in my life the two thousand and seven
New England Patriots, who had a twelve point three points
per game differential in the first half that year. That
is the rarefied air that this team you're getting compared
to that team, that historical team with Hall of famers
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Brady Moss of the late great Junior seou Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Mike Rabel himself was on that team. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So that tells me right now that something is brewing
here in Seattle. Could we perhaps be turning the clock
back to thirteen years ago at the beginning of something
very special?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think so. But I think what really stands out,
having just written a book about that era, the legionn
of boomera. That is, it's not only were they giving
people to you know, the beat downs smackdowns on national TV.
They also were very clutch. You know, they often close
games shit, but they were very clutch, and that I
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think is just as important. Like that's when you really
got something special going on. Any given game, you can
beat someone fifty to thirteen, but also we got to
win the thirteen to six, you know, slug fest. We're
built for that too, you know. So I think that's
that's going to be the next test, is that question
is I think Sam has a game winning drive this
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year against the Cardinals, but came up short against the Bucks,
you know, came up short against the Niners. That stuff matters. Though,
when you talk about something real, real special, that doesn't
mean they're not one of the contenders. I think they are.
I think the Rams are contenders. I think the Eagles
are contenders. I think Seahawks are contenders. The Lions should
be little Seize Eagles. Lions by the way, big one
on Sunday Night as well in the conference. So yeah,
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I think the Seahawks, that's the next thing I want
to see from them, besides beating the Rams. Speaking of stats, Mark,
you know, Seahawks have never beaten Stafford m McVeigh, never have,
I think since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, well they did, but they laid down last year.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well that Stafford didn't play.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right, that's sure, that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yet have never beaten Stafford and McVay. The quarterbacks and
the winds Seattles had since twenty twenty one are in order.
John Walford, Baker Mayfield, and Jimmy Garoppolo beating Stafford and
McVay together, and that is part of slaying the dragon
as well. You know, like every team that deals with injuries,
but when you talk about predictive power, I need to
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see you beat these guys, you know, just like I
needed to see the Pete Carroll teams. Give it to
the Rams teams that had Jared Goff and McVay who
they struggled with, and what do you know when they
when they were able to take them down, they wanted
to visions. So that that's probably my favorite stat going
into this game is that man is as as good
as the Seahawks have been. Man, there's that dragon. There's
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that dragon down there in Inglewood, and they got to
slay it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
They certainly do.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's a great staff, John, a great stat John Walford,
Baker Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo. And it wasn't the Baker
Mayfield that we're seeing here in Tampa. Speaking of this weekend,
you mentioned Eagles Lions. I'll throw a couple more at
y Broncos Chiefs if the Chiefs lose.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They dropped the five and five.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Just think about that for a second, and then of
course the Bucks at the Bills. This is a great
NFL weekend, which every weekend's a great FL weekend, but
some of them are dogs. You have blowouts like last
weekend sucked, and every late window game and what they
call the four o'clock window on the East Coast sucked.
They were all blowouts, which year we love because the
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Seahawks were up thirty five nothing with eight and a
half minutes left in the second quarter. What concerns you
the most? What are the keys like to you in
terms of what you look at for this game. I'm
not gonna lead the witness on the stand. I feel
what we saw Monday night, that ugly Rosio Don game
Eagles Packers. If that is what we're gonna see on
Sunday that bodes well for the Hawks if it goes
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to the turns into Bucks. Seahawks, I'm worried because Matthew
Stafford's got Pooka Nakua and Davante Adams and I even
always questionable. We all know he's probably gonna play. What
to you, is the key to this game for the
Seahawks to win this one?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, I think the key to this game is the
same key to making a run. It's balance on offense.
You just can't be a one dimensional You just can't
and be taken seriously. At least you've got to be
able to win. However, the game requires, you know, some game.
I think the Eagles really you know good at that
last year they were able to, if if they needed
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Saquona go for two hundred because that's that's how the
team was playing them. They will go for two hundred
last year because that's what the game required. And then
sometimes their defense it is just wins something something ugly.
They could go do that. They did that against. I
want to say the Packers maybe in the in the
Wildcard round and a few other games last year. But
then if if they needed to, like in the Super Bowl.
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Hey we gotta throw. They don't want Saquan to beat
us today. So hey, Jalen, this is this is on
you go ahead and get it done for us. And
I think that that really matters the Chiefs. We're able
to do that a little bit as well in some
of those Super Bowl years, like hey, they're playing, they're
dropping eight people. Let's just put this is Pacheco's day,
this is Clyde Edwards, Hilaire's day, you know this, Cream
Hunt Whoever's day. You know, they're really good at that.
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And the Seahawks right now don't have much of that
change up to the fastball on offense. Every game is
one basically on the arm of Jacks excuse me, Sam
Darnold with the ball going to Jackson Smith and Jaguar.
And that's not a bad thing. But I think you
talked about playing a real, real deal, formidable team. You
got to be able to run that pill too, uh
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if that's what the game requires, and almost every game
against the good team does. So that's what I'm going
to be watching for. You know, how fishing are they
with their ground game? How do they spread it around?
Can they hit different runs? Can they run from under center,
can they run from shaga? Can they get first downs?
Honestly marked the best drive of the year. It just
happened again in the last game they played against the Cardinals.
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It was in the third quarter, led into the fourth quarter.
They ran the ball like twelve times in a row,
picked up four first downs, including a barnyard on third
and short, and then they kicked a field goal. You know,
had the ball for nearly eight minutes. That's winning ball
right there. They were obviously up a bunch at the time.
But the ability to do that, say, hey, the game,
this is getting two out of hand like that Bucks Seahawks,
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can it is getting two out of hand. A fifty
yard bomb to JSN, while that's seven points right now,
would be actually better if we just held the ball
for six minutes and kicked a field goal. Sometimes, as
crazy as that sounds, football does work that that way.
You know, get your defensive press, you know, keeps their
offensive it's hot on the side, you know. So I
think they got to be able to win a game
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like that against a good team. They haven't been able
to do that yet. I'd like to see him do
that on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, the strength of victory is I think one of
the weakest of any current teams that would make the
playoffs if it started today only I think second, well,
certainly the worst is the Bears. They have a strength
of victory which is like twenty seven percent. But what
scares me about this game the most, Mike, what if
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Chris Eula says, We're just going to force them to
run the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
We're gonna take away everything.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We're gonna take away JSN, We're gonna take away Cooper Cup,
We're gonna take away Tory Hort and Rashichihi. We're gonna
force them to run the ball. Can the Hawks win
the game on the ground? Look, last week they did
pretty good, Jared Verse, Braydon Fisk. This is a different level.
This is you know, this is ap Corps, this is
you know, Ivy League Roade Scholar course on Sunday. So
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do you think that they can if they're forced to
run the ball forty five times? Can they win this
game doing that?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah? You know, I think that's the real question. I
think so if they really just commit to it in
a way that is like their detriment, like we've seen
some teams do you know, I think I brought the
Chiefs earlier. I think they did that one year, maybe
twenty twenty if the fact check me on this. But
the Bills were just like, you know what, man, Mahomes
ain't just gonna vombit us over our head no more.
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Here's some too high defense. Let's see if you can
beat us running the ball. And if I'm not mistaken,
clyde verwd Zelair had like one hundred and sixty yards
or something like that, like Indy Ree was very much like, okay,
well it's without further ado, here's our run game and
that There's been other situations where teams have done that
as well, but that one really stuck out to me
because that was a past happy offense and a team
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that needed to slay a dragon was like, well, how
do we do it? They tried and the other team
had a change up, a deadly change up at that. So,
you know, I think that's where we learn a lot
about Quint Kubiak and the sea Oarks this Sunday, because
I don't think that the ram will sell out per
se to make sure Jackson and Rashid Shaheed don't bomb
it over their heads. But I do think you're right
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about that. They're going to look at their defensive game
plan is going to say, hey, let's not get any
fifty yard bombs to Jackson Shaheed. You know, let's still
fit the run up. You know, let's still not let
Ken Walker hit us for two hundred. But you know,
if we're gonna pick our poison, so to speak, it
is you know, Ken Walker or Zach Sharburnet. And the
Seahawks got to be able to take advantage of that,
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because again, they have not been able to win the ball,
run the ball well enough to like really kill a team.
I think the real contenders are able to do that.
The Rams can do that. By the way, the Rams
can be like, oh, you don't want Davonte and Pooka
to kill you, Well, here's you know, twenty five carries
or whatever. The Kyra Williams will live with that, you know.
I think that that's that's why I think the Rams
are considered contender in my mind for that reason as well,
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because they're they do have balance. They're like a top
they're above average run team and an elite passing team,
whereas the Seahawks are just an elite passing team. And
a very below average run team.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Great stuff, Mike Dugar. Check out his book You Got
Nearly a perfect review score right there on Amazon. The
franchise Seattle Seahawks, a curated history of the Legion of
Legion of Boom Era. He does a podcast with our
own Christopher Kids Seahawks, Man and Man wherever you find podcasts. Mike,
have a safe trip down to la I'm sure it'll
be a lot better for you than Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
All right, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
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What is the deal with K nine not being in
the game, or the guy should be a top five
running back instead. Every time I see him on TV,
he's on the sideline looking very pissed off. It reminds
me a ton of when the Raiders were benching Marcus
Allen because Al Davis didn't like him for some reason.
So my question is that Kenneth Walker do anything to
upset my McDonald company.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's a great question. I don't think so. I don't know.
Maybe they just feel it. I don't get it either,
because he is, to me, is a great running back.
He doesn't get enough carries.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I think it's just they really want to keep him healthy.
But I also think his time is up in Seattle.
That could be another thing, because they got Kenny mackin
talks is going to come back Zach Charboney seems to
be a great answer, So it could be just the
end of it, or they're really just trying to protect
K nine, which is still weird because my goodness, can
the guy get a touchdown? How many times have you
seen the goal lines where it's like, hey, Zach number
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twenty six, mon, don't you get out there get a
few carries?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'm not a big fan of that. All right, let's
see here. Don't get me wrong with people talking on
phones while driving. Two days ago, a lady reminded me
in a red light, I'm so sorry I was on
my phone. She said, sure, made my day not And
I said, well, I hope you're okay, and he said, thankfully,
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everyone is okay. Minor damage. I get out and I'm like,
what happened? Lady says, I'm so sorry I was on
my phone. Yeah, that's the way the world is. What
are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
The MVP conversation is very simple to me. Pull all
thirty gms in the Major League Baseball and ask him
this next year, you can either have Cow or Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
No, that's not it. It's that's the dumbest text we've
had in a while.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Operating under the assumption they replicate their seasons and work
for the same salary salary. Who are you taking? I
think thirty for thirty take Cow, even the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't think that has anything to do with next year.
It has to do with twenty twenty five. He was
the better, he was the most valuable player. He was
That's that's it. I mean, he's the MVP peer read
exclamation point. Hopefully he gets it, man, I wouldn't hold
my breath, but I'm hoping he gets it. Personally, I'm
more worried about the Seahawks being able to run the
ball productively than I am about the Rams running the
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ball at all.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
You know you've hit rock bottom when you text fact
on a kid pick a, you know we're doing some
good things over here.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, he takes it in fact though A.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, is Michael Dugar going to be subscribing to Russell
Wilson's motivational videos?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I would say no, So Softie can't actually have a
tattoo on his butt that he always donds people with
question mark. I guess SOFTI has an ongoing joke that
he'll get a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Of he cannot. He cannot. That's actually a legitimate thing.
And believe me, my friend and Lee Sterling backed my
friend seth up on that, so I've got on great authority. No,
you will not be buried in a Jewish cemetery if
you have a tattoo. I think they might make an
exception if it was a tattoo in the Star of David.
But anything other than that, if it's like you know, right,
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if it's like the Seahawks logo or Husky you Dub logo, Nope, Nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
There you are getting the you are getting the the
kenbi mutambo.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Fingerwag they are. That is a that is a definite.
I didn't know that today.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now I know.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And I love to learn something new every single day.
All right, what else? Let's see here, MJ dude, Russ
anything you need? WTF? That sounds so arrogant?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
What are we all sitting around hoping Russ as answers
for us? Way too lame, pathetic. Let me give you
one more from Keith. Leave poor Russy alone once Sierra
hops on the next mediocre rapper. Good old mister Unlimited
is gonna need all the three hundred and thirty three
dollars hits he can get for the therapy he's gonna need.
Oh no, oh kid, there's more, wait you go, but
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there's more about Rossman. I could be all day. It's funny.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Last one for me. George Hallani will be the starter
next year?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Who all right? All right?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Umm Barney The Purple Dinosaurs pretty cringe to legit actors
producers at one time. Nobody's asking Russell to do anything
but go about your life privately. I agree Russell is
one of the most plastic people in professional sports, but
you can't take away the fact that he went to
Children's hospital in Seattle every week as he might have been.
(29:33):
That was real. That was real for them. Let's not
cross no, no, no, no, nobody say anything about that.
Nobody saying about that. We're just talking about him soliciting people.
He's made three hundred and fifteen million dollars in his
career and you're solicing people for three hundred and thirty
three dollars a pop. Come on, bro, you're better than that. Man,
You're better than that, like, or at least I thought.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's uh yeah, um, three hundred and thirty three dollars.
Mister unlimited is back. Dude went from human to AI
by just adding Sierra. Oh no, oh no, they're oh
I don't know. Hey man, I'm in mediation with my
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client today, so I'll just catch the pod cast this
afternoon because I love the show Raiders. Mystique tradition is
a myth that franchise has been absolutely irrelevant for going
on twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What's the matter with them? They are the Raiders? Yeah, amen?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And that all right?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And somebody was asking a question about trading away and
I'm like, eh, we'll do that tomorrow when Ian Ritchie
is here.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Anyway, the timing of MLB oars is ridiculous. It's like
being laid off and getting an employee of in my.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I know, right, Oh, no, oh, all right, those are
the what do you say? Texta today?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Wimar MJ kid? What would Cal do of his home stadium?
Was the Yankees seventy five home runs? Seriously, seventy five
add another fifteen to that freaking elementary school ballpark where
the porch is like one hundred and fifty feet to joke.
That's another thing. I didn't even get into that really
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too much. All Right, we'll talk to the mayor and
Ferns coming up new jets is wearing. She's got her
Matty Beneer's jersey on today.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Looks good. All right, we'll talk to the mayor.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's getting ready for his show, and of course kracking
game tonight. They got to take care of business and
get this thing going back in the right direction against Winnipeg.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Don't go anywhere. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Thank you to Marcel Reese, Mike Dugar for coming on today.
The guy from NFL dot Com, Eric at Holme, who's
ranked the Seahawks number one.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The power rankings will be on tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And and Ian Ritchie from Fantasy from Circa Fantasy, you'll
be answering your questions and from money into another. Mister Furness,
he's got his uh, you know, his TV outfit on.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's looking at you calling the game tonight.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
No, I'm doing the pregame intermissions, mister back Foreslen's back,
so I'm back on the desk with Allison. And by
by the way, that's I'm not just saying this because
he's from my hometown. Like John Foreslyn is one of
the best play by play announcers ever.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, he's unbelievable. And you guy, like you're the whole
team that there is. You guys are like everything Piper,
you everybody is great. So you know, it's uh, it's good.
One of the things that oh did.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You hear this story today?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Anne the chairman from the coach Mac Rhodes.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, so so he stepped down today, right, and he's
stepping down from his duties at Baylor. Well, the I
think the story is yesterday he was told to step
down from Baylor because here's this is how wild this is.
So the original story comes out because he had an
altercation on the sidelines with a player and a consistant
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coach on Saturday. Then did this Saturday this past Saturday,
and then he had one in September.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Maybe yeah, he had another one too.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
So so the school says, you're gonna you're gonna go
figure this out. This was like Monday.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
They kind of told him that.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well Tuesday, he's in charge of the College Football Playoff
Committee and he's front and center doing the ESPN stuff
after that, and then it comes out yesterday that because
I remember seeing the story thinking, wait, Macrohods, he's the
CFP chair chairman.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
WHOA, that's weird.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So then this and then the school put him on
the sidelines first, and I thought to myself, well that's interesting.
So you just put the College Football Playoff chairman on
the sidelines as Baylor. What about the CFP? And then
obviously they falled suit or he stepped out, whatever it is.
But yeah, now, by the way, what uh now? Can
I also say something, how ridiculous, Mark, is it that
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you have a sitting athletic director as the chair for
the college football playoff commed because let's go back. Why
is he on the sidelines now because of his altercation
on the sidelines at one game. You're an athletic director.
Your job on a Saturday is to be at your school,
shaking hands, kissing babies, making sure the donors are taken
care of, blah blah blah. You're not watching the other
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top twenty games in the country. That he's not watching
the biggest games in the Big ten SEC and ACC
in Big twelve. He's worried about his school or getting
into altercations with athletes were doing that exactly. So there's
a report out there, and if it is, I'm happy
because I know this guy very well. Arkansas eflet director
Hunter Yurroicek will take over for mac Rhodes as the
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playoff committee chairman. And I just got a text likely
to happen, but the formality of the presidents and chancellors
need to govern final approval. Hunter is going to be
the chairman of the playoff committee. So regardless this is
just odd, very odd, really really odd. But but it's
not title nind he there's no, no, it's a dude.
(35:11):
It was a dude that he you know, yelled at
or whatever. It was a player right by the way.
It's I mean, come on, what's your an athletic director.
Why you've got to a player exactly during the game. Yeah, no,
you can't be doing that. And Baylor's had so many
got their list of issues?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Was his own player? Yeah, oh yeah, finally didn't and
the basketball a player killed someone?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, I mean they had and we go through we
can don't even get on Drew that we could call
up the Baylor resume here and have all kinds of fun. Right, well,
what was the coach named Drew?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Was his first thing? No?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh Bryce?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
No, uh no, no, no, no, no, not to get no, no,
the guy who's the football coach?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh, it was oh our Briles Art Briles trials.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Who then got hired by a high school at one point,
and then that tells you how far he dropped. Well,
but no, it was like a Texas high school that
pays you like two hundred and fifty grand Right.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
By the way, Hey, they'll overlook anything.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
They're good. Yeah, they're good. Just just win us some
games Friday, last day. Can you win Friday? Can you win? Baby?
Let's go. The boy wants you to win this week.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Oh my two hundred, Oh god, Texas football is different
just different world, different world.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
What do you got today?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
We're gonna our guy Corbus Smith his weekly visit will
join us from Emerald City Spectrum coming up here at
one twenty wrote a good story on the quarterback matchup
between Darnold and Stafford this weekend, and then our fantasy
guy Bredan Funston at two o'clock. Remember your text come
in four nine, four or five one, not a second
before one o'clock, not a second before one o'clock. I
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talked to the Great Kevin Shockey yesterday. He was joking.
He said I heard you so invoking that rule, and
I said, damn right, am, like we were.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Not so one o'clock.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Get your text in four nine, four to five one
for Funston, and then Corbyn will talk about this massive
matchup this weeknt between the Seahawks and the Rams.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Hey, you know it would be crazy. Just think about
this and let's see if it does happen. I'm not
saying it's gonna happen. Okay, Matthew Stafford. Right now, he
and Drake May are the odds on favorite f MVP.
What if Donald comes in and out play Stafford big
time on Sunday? I mean, think about it. Yeah, I
don't know if I'm not saying's gonna happen, but you
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never know that. Hey, what what is Chris Berman? The
one thing he would say that wasn't annoying?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's why they played the games, you know what? And
Mark that's that is it?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Now?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
You know what hurt has hurt Stafford or not Stafford Donald?
I think is the fact that they've had these these
had these three belong twelve twelve past attempts on Sunday,
killed it, killed it, and and you know what they
did then what they did against jackson not Jacksonville, who
was it the Commanders, and then what they did against
the Saints like he drew locks, had a lot of
them up up mop up time this year. And you
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know Stafford hasn't or Donald hasn't patted the stats yep, yep.
So we'll look forward to if he outplayed Stafford, they win.
That's that's the most obvious statement you'll here on sports radio.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Just number I forgot to ask you this question, Number one,
when do you remember this big of a regular season game?
How long ago was it where you felt that this
team had a chance to go to the Super Bowl
twenty sixteen at the forty nine ers any year, you
know what, I'm.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Gonna look that up in the brick, because no, here's
a thing when they had home field advantage in twenty
thirteen and twenty fourteen and had and won the NFC
Championship close two years. Yea, both years that came down
to the final game, they didn't have. They didn't Pete
Carroll never had the ability to sit Russell Wilson in
the final week of a regular season.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Okay, look, twenty sixteen, they needed a win over San
Francisco and they went on the road and beat Colin
Kaepernick and then they got the three seed in the division.
But the Rams sucked that year too, and then.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
They beat Stafford. Here he's went for Detroit, I think,
right right exactly, But that they've never been it, this
is yeah. I mean, if you ask me, I don't
know if they've had one in the regular like in
the middle of the regular season, right, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, it's awesome, all right. I fornascal research to do
here in the break. Okay, here you go. There, I
give you their homework assignment. Yeah, just don't don't worry.
You'll you'll be good in Wazoo education. Can I will
see you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us
It's MJ in the midday on a Thursday, just three
days away from the biggest regular season game in recent
Seahawks history. And I don't think I'm being hyperbolic by
saying that. Mark James along, Christopher Kid here with you
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until one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We've been slammed all week long. Don't forget.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Come on out to Muckleshute Casino Resort Galaxy on Sunday
for the Seattle away Game Rumble Watch Party. I'll be
there early before kickoff. There'll be plenty of giveaways, KGr
T shirts. The Corona and Modello Girls will be there.
There'll be stuff to give away from Muckleshote Casino Resort.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So come on out.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We had a packed house for the Commander's game on
Sunday night. This is an earlier start at one, but
the biggest game of the year. And Mike Dugar joins us.
He does see OWKXS mana Man podcast with Christopher Kidd
each and every week wherever you find podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Mike, can you when you're looking back.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You've been with the athletic for a while and you
grew up in the PNW. When was the last regular
season game of this magnitude where you thought that the
Seahawks had potentially legitimate chance to make a run at
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What year would that ben? Twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, I was just I have a story, right, I
give the answer to this on the Athletic. Shameless plug No.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, shameless no no, no, we want you gotta plug.
I'll tell us what is what's the title of the article.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's a good question, something my editor came up with.
I'm sure, but I think it's so. You just go
to the Athletic over the Seahawks page. Yeah, it's right.
It should be right there at the top. That's called
the the Seahawks' biggest game in years is here. Mike
McDonald was hired to win it. We'd get into the
McDonald implications a little later, but I think so I
have two possibilities to answer your question. I think in
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the regular season finale in twenty twenty, they had a
shot at the one seed, albeit a slim one. They
needed to beat the Niners, which they did, and they
needed the Bears to lose to the Packers. And I
think they needed the Panthers to beat the Saints all
those games kicked off at the same time, so they
didn't know the results, so they played it like they
had a shot. The other team ended up letting them down.
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In twenty nineteen, in the regular season finale on Sunday
Night Football, the final game of the regular season for
the entire league, they played the Niners at home. The
winner got the one seed, loser got the five. Which
is that I think is probably a more relevant example
here to compare to this game, because other results around
the league aren't as aren't as relevant, you know, So yeah,
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this is this is as big as at least five
years or you know, you can call it six years,
and it's easily and this is relevant too, easily the
biggest game with Mike McDonald's senior here, and I think
we'll learn quite a bit about him too, and how
his team comes out for this one.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
A couple of things before the season began, I didn't expect.
I mean, we knew the Seahawks defense would be really good.
I didn't know that this team would be as great
as they are right now. That here's another thing I
didn't have before the season. Like Matthew Stafford, who's going
to be thirty eight before next year's Super Bowl in
Santa Clara. I didn't have him having his best career
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year ever and right now would be the odds on
favorite for the MVP. Now you put that all in
a blender as we go into Sunday, what stands out
the most to you that you didn't see in preseason
for this game?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah? I mean with with Stafford, Remember, he just wasn't
out there. I think he had like back problems or
something like that. And I'm like, okay, you're thirty seven.
You got you waking up with a bad back or
whatever he's dealing with. Oh well, this guy's done. You know.
The talent was whatever time we had seen Stafford prior
to this season, he was in the snow slinging it
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against the you know, eventual Super Bowl champions. Right the
games the champs probably their their most difficult game of
the preseason, you know, excuse me, of the playoffs in
the snow. So I was like, I know he can
throw the ball, but like physically can he throw the ball?
You know, he's just he's just slaying it all over
the place. You know. I didn't it with great efficiency
as well. I didn't think that their defense the Rams
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would be like this good. I know the front will
be good, but the whole thing is coming together. They
didn't to trade from per some cornerback help, but that
was really just because the Keller Witherspoon got hurt. You know,
if Keller was healthy, I don't think they would have
needed kid they got from Tennessee. So yeah, I think
the last thing, I just didn't expect both of these
teams to be pretty much mirror images of one another.
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You know, they're both their fronts are dominant, Both their
quarterbacks are swinging it. Both their lead receivers are are
tearing it up, which I guess you maybe could have
predicted for that to this extent with Jacks, you know,
like they're they're just really really really really really good teams.
Their coaches are finding new ways to get it done.
You know, as the play caller on the respective side
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of the ball, it really is, we might be watching
the two best teams in the league, you know, play
on Sunday. I know that some Colts fans, some Patriots
fans may bust back at that. Maybe even some Eagles
fans delusion those they may be, but yeah, you can
make a really strong case that Rams Seahawks is not
only a matchup of the best in the NFC West,
the best in the NFC and two best teams in
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the league.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
A lot of people are saying that, And you know, Mike,
I've only been here just nine months so and I've
heard from enough sports fans here in Seattle to talk
when they've talked about not getting the respect, getting a
lot of shade thrown at with Seattle sports teams or
the course of history. And I can see that other
than really the Legion of Boom era and maybe the
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Ken Griffy Junior era, you know, I can see that
people have having that, you know, and now being on
the inside looking out, I can see that here's the difference.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now everybody's saying the Seattle Seahawks are the best team
in the NFL, CBS Sports dot Com, NFL dot com.
We're having the guy at tomorrow who did the power rankings,
Pete Prisco at cbssports dot Com. I'm a little worried,
I think, could you know, it's just one of those
natural things, Mike, where you know, I I'd rather be
the hunter than the hunted, and I think right now, oh,
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Seattle all super Bowl forty nine rematch Patriots Seahawks. Hold on,
let's pump the brakes, because that team, like you said
in LA is pretty damn good. And so is that
something that you think can seep into the locker room
or do you think that they are so laser focused,
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as if they've got adderall running through their veins, that
they're not gonna let any of that outside noise kind
of make them feel as Nick Saban would say, rat poison.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I think that coaches always tried to, you know,
mitigate the impact of any outside noise. See Mike McDonald's
acting about that this week. You know, it's like it's
just noise. And I'm sure that there are a lot
of guys who that's very easy, you know. I was
watching an interview with Leondard Williams. He said he has
a rule, you know, they don't get on his phone
until twenty four hours after every game, win or lose.
(07:23):
I thought that was cool. I didn't know that about him.
Bobby Wagoner was pretty similar about how he embraced the
outside world. He said he only has like social media
for basically business purposes. It's like he was like, if
I wasn't an athlete. I had no way I'd have
this thing that makes sense, and DK had to go
off social media. I think in you're like four or five,
and he's like, I can't, I can't use it as
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too toxic. So I mean, if every guy varies, but
I mean, it's just too many guys in that locker room. Man,
there's like seventy dudes of all varying ages. I think
Nicky even Worri's twenty one. I think j Ree is
like thirty three or something like that. Cups thirty three,
thirty two. So you just got the wide spectrum. There
is my point. I bring that up because yes, for
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some guys, no for others, there are hard the the
guys who smell themselves. You're like, man, I'm killing it. Man,
we're killing it, you know, telling their people back home,
their whole high school teammates, the college teammates, their family know,
we lit let's you know, we get the tickets to
the Bowl. We're going, you know. And there's some guys like, hey,
young and shut up, do your job, show up and
get this this work in. I think it's just every team,
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not just the Seahawks. They have to have the guys
who are focused and ignore us, you know, outweigh the
guys who are maybe reading their reading their press clippings,
which feels like that's dating all of us using that
term press clippings. But yeah, you know, reading what the
tweets say, reading the Instagram stuff. You know they do.
I go to the locker room mark after the game.
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Half these guys are on their phones right away, naked,
and then the towel on their phone scroll on Instagram,
looking at highlights that got tagged in, you know, looking
at their interception, looking at their tackle, looking at the
catch they made. You know, I'm around the same age
as some of these guys. But I think the most
important thing I think a coach today can do, besides
motivate his players, is to get the new lock in.
(09:10):
We can ignore that stuff because it's maybe the most
difficult task of anybody in leadership position like in today,
whether you're in business or sports, to get people to
get off their phones and focus on whatever you guys
got going.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No doubt, we live in a society. I mean, listen, man,
just walk down any street in the entire country MIC
and when you walk by someone, their head is down
and their phone is in their right or left hand.
That just that's the way the world is. And unfortunately,
you might be driving next to somebody and their head
is down looking at their phone.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's the world we live in.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
The you know these phones, someone has said like they
are they are like almost surgically attached to our anatomies.
Now that we can't, we just can't. I'm literally uh
And that's just the way. Unfortunately, that's an indictment on society.
This team, though, I feel that once John Schneider got
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the reins and he brought in Mike McDonald from Baltimore,
and then he wanted to go with his guy Ryan Grubb.
Mike McDonald said, we try to earway, I want my
guy Clint Kubiak. Obviously we're seeing the residual effects of that.
Mike McDonald made the right choice on that one. This team,
I believe when you talk about you kind of said
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something mirror images. I believe that this team is built
just kind of like the nineties Bulls were after a
while to take down the bad Boys. The back to
back NBA World champion Detroit Pistons with Zeke Isaiah and
Joe Dumars and Rodman and John Sally and Bill Lambier.
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This Seahawks team is like, it's like John Schneider, let's
need Sean McVeigh, Mike McDonald, right, and you can just
see the correlations.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Click Kubiak Chris Shula.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And that's why I think these teams are arguably, or
not even arguing, maybe inarguably the best two teams in
the NFL. Do you think John Schneider when he got
the reins to take this over and they let Pete
go that he was like, here, there's the template. They
won the Super Bowl four years ago. We need to
take them down, and we're gonna build our franchise just
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so we can take this team down.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't even say just it's the
Rams and the Niners. I think you know in this
story that I shamelessly plugged earlier. I was looking it up.
So I mean Shanahan mc they both showed up in
twenty seventeen. Right, there's been eight division winners. I believe
since they showed up, they have seven of those together.
They've made the conference championship games six times. They've made
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four Super Bowls in this span that I'm talking about. Obviously,
the Rams won one. They are the standard that they
are in the wet they are. The Seahawks have won
one division title in that span. It's the COVID year
A twenty twenty. And how did this season end? They
lost it home to the Rams. You know, there was
no fans at Lonman or whatever it's called at the time.
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But still that Sean mcsvan, Kyle Shanahan. Seahawk fans may
not want to hear, but they are the standard out
here and that's the number is supported. The accolades support it, right.
So yeah, if you are if you are a GM
and you're a head coach out West, whether you're Jonathan
Gannon in the Cardinals GM or the John Schnyder and
Mike McDonald, your goal is to slay the dragons and
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it just happens to be two. But I think the
same thing is true. Let's look at the AFC West,
for instance, Andy Reid, if Katrick Mahomes are the standard,
if you get hired by the Chargers, Raiders or Broncos,
that is your job. Go beat Andy Reid, Go win
the division. You know, I think Obama was still president
last time that the Chiefs didn't win the division, Like
that that's a big deal there in the West. The
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AFC East is becoming the same thing, you know, like
you got to go beat Buffalo, go beat Josh Allen.
If we hire you to coach the Dolphin the Jets
of the Patriots, right, that's the thing, And that's by
Mike Rabel. I'm sure they're really excited up there because
it looks like they can they can do that. So yeah,
there's a strong correlation. I don't have any numbers to
support this, but if there's a guy in your division
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that you can't beat, you will not be employed there
very long. I can. I almost can assure you that's
the case. Harbaugh and Tomlin have gone back and forth
enough to have some job security. But look at the Browns.
How long is Zach Taylor gonna be there in Sincy
if he can't beat Harbaugh and Tomlin? Not long? I'm
pretty sure, you know, so, no matter if Joe Burrow's
healthy or not. So yeah, I think that's that is
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why Mike McDonald was hired to beat Kyle Sanhan and
beat Sean McVay like this. That's why this game is
so important.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It is and let me let me put this.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I saw a stat the other day Mike Dugar from
the Athletic and of course does the Seahawks Man's Man
podcast with our very own Christopher Kid each and every week.
Great job, those guys, they break down the film, they
go all twenty two, you name it. How about this, Mike,
you look ready for the stat? Seattle owns an eleven
point four points per game different in the first half
this season. It's the highest by any team in either
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half since, in my opinion, the greatest football team I've
ever seen in my life the two thousand and seven
New England Patriots, who had a twelve point three points
per game differential in the first half that year. That
is the rarefied air that this team you're getting compared
to that team, that historical team with Hall of famers
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Brady Moss of the late great Junior seou Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Mike Rabel himself was on that team. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So that tells me right now that something is brewing
here in Seattle. Could we perhaps be turning the clock
back to thirteen years ago at the beginning of something
very special?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think so. But I think what really stands out,
having just written a book about that era, the legionn
of boomera. That is, it's not only were they giving
people to you know, the beat downs smackdowns on national TV.
They also were very clutch. You know, they often close
games shit, but they were very clutch, and that I
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think is just as important. Like that's when you really
got something special going on. Any given game, you can
beat someone fifty to thirteen, but also we got to
win the thirteen to six, you know, slug fest. We're
built for that too, you know. So I think that's
that's going to be the next test, is that question
is I think Sam has a game winning drive this
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year against the Cardinals, but came up short against the Bucks,
you know, came up short against the Niners. That stuff matters. Though,
when you talk about something real, real special, that doesn't
mean they're not one of the contenders. I think they are.
I think the Rams are contenders. I think the Eagles
are contenders. I think Seahawks are contenders. The Lions should
be little Seize Eagles. Lions by the way, big one
on Sunday Night as well in the conference. So yeah,
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I think the Seahawks, that's the next thing I want
to see from them, besides beating the Rams. Speaking of stats, Mark,
you know, Seahawks have never beaten Stafford m McVeigh, never have,
I think since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, well they did, but they laid down last year.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well that Stafford didn't play.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right, that's sure, that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yet have never beaten Stafford and McVay. The quarterbacks and
the winds Seattles had since twenty twenty one are in order.
John Walford, Baker Mayfield, and Jimmy Garoppolo beating Stafford and
McVay together, and that is part of slaying the dragon
as well. You know, like every team that deals with injuries,
but when you talk about predictive power, I need to
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see you beat these guys, you know, just like I
needed to see the Pete Carroll teams. Give it to
the Rams teams that had Jared Goff and McVay who
they struggled with, and what do you know when they
when they were able to take them down, they wanted
to visions. So that that's probably my favorite stat going
into this game is that man is as as good
as the Seahawks have been. Man, there's that dragon. There's
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that dragon down there in Inglewood, and they got to
slay it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
They certainly do.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's a great staff, John, a great stat John Walford,
Baker Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo. And it wasn't the Baker
Mayfield that we're seeing here in Tampa. Speaking of this weekend,
you mentioned Eagles Lions. I'll throw a couple more at
y Broncos Chiefs if the Chiefs lose.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They dropped the five and five.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Just think about that for a second, and then of
course the Bucks at the Bills. This is a great
NFL weekend, which every weekend's a great FL weekend, but
some of them are dogs. You have blowouts like last
weekend sucked, and every late window game and what they
call the four o'clock window on the East Coast sucked.
They were all blowouts, which year we love because the
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Seahawks were up thirty five nothing with eight and a
half minutes left in the second quarter. What concerns you
the most? What are the keys like to you in
terms of what you look at for this game. I'm
not gonna lead the witness on the stand. I feel
what we saw Monday night, that ugly Rosio Don game
Eagles Packers. If that is what we're gonna see on
Sunday that bodes well for the Hawks if it goes
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to the turns into Bucks. Seahawks, I'm worried because Matthew
Stafford's got Pooka Nakua and Davante Adams and I even
always questionable. We all know he's probably gonna play. What
to you, is the key to this game for the
Seahawks to win this one?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, I think the key to this game is the
same key to making a run. It's balance on offense.
You just can't be a one dimensional You just can't
and be taken seriously. At least you've got to be
able to win. However, the game requires, you know, some game.
I think the Eagles really you know good at that
last year they were able to, if if they needed
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Saquona go for two hundred because that's that's how the
team was playing them. They will go for two hundred
last year because that's what the game required. And then
sometimes their defense it is just wins something something ugly.
They could go do that. They did that against. I
want to say the Packers maybe in the in the
Wildcard round and a few other games last year. But
then if if they needed to, like in the Super Bowl.
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Hey we gotta throw. They don't want Saquan to beat
us today. So hey, Jalen, this is this is on
you go ahead and get it done for us. And
I think that that really matters the Chiefs. We're able
to do that a little bit as well in some
of those Super Bowl years, like hey, they're playing, they're
dropping eight people. Let's just put this is Pacheco's day,
this is Clyde Edwards, Hilaire's day, you know this, Cream
Hunt Whoever's day. You know, they're really good at that.
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And the Seahawks right now don't have much of that
change up to the fastball on offense. Every game is
one basically on the arm of Jacks excuse me, Sam
Darnold with the ball going to Jackson Smith and Jaguar.
And that's not a bad thing. But I think you
talked about playing a real, real deal, formidable team. You
got to be able to run that pill too, uh
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if that's what the game requires, and almost every game
against the good team does. So that's what I'm going
to be watching for. You know, how fishing are they
with their ground game? How do they spread it around?
Can they hit different runs? Can they run from under center,
can they run from shaga? Can they get first downs?
Honestly marked the best drive of the year. It just
happened again in the last game they played against the Cardinals.
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It was in the third quarter, led into the fourth quarter.
They ran the ball like twelve times in a row,
picked up four first downs, including a barnyard on third
and short, and then they kicked a field goal. You know,
had the ball for nearly eight minutes. That's winning ball
right there. They were obviously up a bunch at the time.
But the ability to do that, say, hey, the game,
this is getting two out of hand like that Bucks Seahawks,
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can it is getting two out of hand. A fifty
yard bomb to JSN, while that's seven points right now,
would be actually better if we just held the ball
for six minutes and kicked a field goal. Sometimes, as
crazy as that sounds, football does work that that way.
You know, get your defensive press, you know, keeps their
offensive it's hot on the side, you know. So I
think they got to be able to win a game
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like that against a good team. They haven't been able
to do that yet. I'd like to see him do
that on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, the strength of victory is I think one of
the weakest of any current teams that would make the
playoffs if it started today only I think second, well,
certainly the worst is the Bears. They have a strength
of victory which is like twenty seven percent. But what
scares me about this game the most, Mike, what if
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Chris Eula says, We're just going to force them to
run the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
We're gonna take away everything.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We're gonna take away JSN, We're gonna take away Cooper Cup,
We're gonna take away Tory Hort and Rashichihi. We're gonna
force them to run the ball. Can the Hawks win
the game on the ground? Look, last week they did
pretty good, Jared Verse, Braydon Fisk. This is a different level.
This is you know, this is ap Corps, this is
you know, Ivy League Roade Scholar course on Sunday. So
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do you think that they can if they're forced to
run the ball forty five times? Can they win this
game doing that?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah? You know, I think that's the real question. I
think so if they really just commit to it in
a way that is like their detriment, like we've seen
some teams do you know, I think I brought the
Chiefs earlier. I think they did that one year, maybe
twenty twenty if the fact check me on this. But
the Bills were just like, you know what, man, Mahomes
ain't just gonna vombit us over our head no more.
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Here's some too high defense. Let's see if you can
beat us running the ball. And if I'm not mistaken,
clyde verwd Zelair had like one hundred and sixty yards
or something like that, like Indy Ree was very much like, okay,
well it's without further ado, here's our run game and
that There's been other situations where teams have done that
as well, but that one really stuck out to me
because that was a past happy offense and a team
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that needed to slay a dragon was like, well, how
do we do it? They tried and the other team
had a change up, a deadly change up at that. So,
you know, I think that's where we learn a lot
about Quint Kubiak and the sea Oarks this Sunday, because
I don't think that the ram will sell out per
se to make sure Jackson and Rashid Shaheed don't bomb
it over their heads. But I do think you're right
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about that. They're going to look at their defensive game
plan is going to say, hey, let's not get any
fifty yard bombs to Jackson Shaheed. You know, let's still
fit the run up. You know, let's still not let
Ken Walker hit us for two hundred. But you know,
if we're gonna pick our poison, so to speak, it
is you know, Ken Walker or Zach Sharburnet. And the
Seahawks got to be able to take advantage of that,
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because again, they have not been able to win the ball,
run the ball well enough to like really kill a team.
I think the real contenders are able to do that.
The Rams can do that. By the way, the Rams
can be like, oh, you don't want Davonte and Pooka
to kill you, Well, here's you know, twenty five carries
or whatever. The Kyra Williams will live with that, you know.
I think that that's that's why I think the Rams
are considered contender in my mind for that reason as well,
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because they're they do have balance. They're like a top
they're above average run team and an elite passing team,
whereas the Seahawks are just an elite passing team. And
a very below average run team.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Great stuff, Mike Dugar. Check out his book You Got
Nearly a perfect review score right there on Amazon. The
franchise Seattle Seahawks, a curated history of the Legion of
Legion of Boom Era. He does a podcast with our
own Christopher Kids Seahawks, Man and Man wherever you find podcasts. Mike,
have a safe trip down to la I'm sure it'll
be a lot better for you than Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
All right, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
You got it coming up next. What do you say?
Text today?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Brought to you by Bor said four nine four or
five one with Christopher Kidd Mjay in the midday. Don't
go anywhere, all right? This could be the what do
you say Text of the day? Maybe the week. X
slax hasn't been very useful lately, so I shipped off
three hundred and thirty five dollars to Russ to make
a cameo video to give me the faith, hope and
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inspiration that you can do this.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Man, I believe in you. You got this that he
put lol. Oh, Russ Man, he is something, he is,
He's something else.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
What is the deal with K nine not being in
the game, or the guy should be a top five
running back instead. Every time I see him on TV,
he's on the sideline looking very pissed off. It reminds
me a ton of when the Raiders were benching Marcus
Allen because Al Davis didn't like him for some reason.
So my question is that Kenneth Walker do anything to
upset my McDonald company.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's a great question. I don't think so. I don't know.
Maybe they just feel it. I don't get it either,
because he is, to me, is a great running back.
He doesn't get enough carries.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I think it's just they really want to keep him healthy.
But I also think his time is up in Seattle.
That could be another thing, because they got Kenny mackin
talks is going to come back Zach Charboney seems to
be a great answer, So it could be just the
end of it, or they're really just trying to protect
K nine, which is still weird because my goodness, can
the guy get a touchdown? How many times have you
seen the goal lines where it's like, hey, Zach number
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twenty six, mon, don't you get out there get a
few carries?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'm not a big fan of that. All right, let's
see here. Don't get me wrong with people talking on
phones while driving. Two days ago, a lady reminded me
in a red light, I'm so sorry I was on
my phone. She said, sure, made my day not And
I said, well, I hope you're okay, and he said, thankfully,
(26:14):
everyone is okay. Minor damage. I get out and I'm like,
what happened? Lady says, I'm so sorry I was on
my phone. Yeah, that's the way the world is. What
are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
The MVP conversation is very simple to me. Pull all
thirty gms in the Major League Baseball and ask him
this next year, you can either have Cow or Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
No, that's not it. It's that's the dumbest text we've
had in a while.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Operating under the assumption they replicate their seasons and work
for the same salary salary. Who are you taking? I
think thirty for thirty take Cow, even the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't think that has anything to do with next year.
It has to do with twenty twenty five. He was
the better, he was the most valuable player. He was
That's that's it. I mean, he's the MVP peer read
exclamation point. Hopefully he gets it, man, I wouldn't hold
my breath, but I'm hoping he gets it. Personally, I'm
more worried about the Seahawks being able to run the
ball productively than I am about the Rams running the
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ball at all.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
You know you've hit rock bottom when you text fact
on a kid pick a, you know we're doing some
good things over here.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, he takes it in fact though A.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, is Michael Dugar going to be subscribing to Russell
Wilson's motivational videos?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I would say no, So Softie can't actually have a
tattoo on his butt that he always donds people with
question mark. I guess SOFTI has an ongoing joke that
he'll get a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Of he cannot. He cannot. That's actually a legitimate thing.
And believe me, my friend and Lee Sterling backed my
friend seth up on that, so I've got on great authority. No,
you will not be buried in a Jewish cemetery if
you have a tattoo. I think they might make an
exception if it was a tattoo in the Star of David.
But anything other than that, if it's like you know, right,
(28:07):
if it's like the Seahawks logo or Husky you Dub logo, Nope, Nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
There you are getting the you are getting the the
kenbi mutambo.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Fingerwag they are. That is a that is a definite.
I didn't know that today.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now I know.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And I love to learn something new every single day.
All right, what else? Let's see here, MJ dude, Russ
anything you need? WTF? That sounds so arrogant?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
What are we all sitting around hoping Russ as answers
for us? Way too lame, pathetic. Let me give you
one more from Keith. Leave poor Russy alone once Sierra
hops on the next mediocre rapper. Good old mister Unlimited
is gonna need all the three hundred and thirty three
dollars hits he can get for the therapy he's gonna need.
Oh no, oh kid, there's more, wait you go, but
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there's more about Rossman. I could be all day. It's funny.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Last one for me. George Hallani will be the starter
next year?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Who all right? All right?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Umm Barney The Purple Dinosaurs pretty cringe to legit actors
producers at one time. Nobody's asking Russell to do anything
but go about your life privately. I agree Russell is
one of the most plastic people in professional sports, but
you can't take away the fact that he went to
Children's hospital in Seattle every week as he might have been.
(29:33):
That was real. That was real for them. Let's not
cross no, no, no, no, nobody say anything about that.
Nobody saying about that. We're just talking about him soliciting people.
He's made three hundred and fifteen million dollars in his
career and you're solicing people for three hundred and thirty
three dollars a pop. Come on, bro, you're better than that. Man,
You're better than that, like, or at least I thought.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's uh yeah, um, three hundred and thirty three dollars.
Mister unlimited is back. Dude went from human to AI
by just adding Sierra. Oh no, oh no, they're oh
I don't know. Hey man, I'm in mediation with my
(30:15):
client today, so I'll just catch the pod cast this
afternoon because I love the show Raiders. Mystique tradition is
a myth that franchise has been absolutely irrelevant for going
on twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What's the matter with them? They are the Raiders? Yeah, amen?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And that all right?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And somebody was asking a question about trading away and
I'm like, eh, we'll do that tomorrow when Ian Ritchie
is here.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Anyway, the timing of MLB oars is ridiculous. It's like
being laid off and getting an employee of in my.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I know, right, Oh, no, oh, all right, those are
the what do you say? Texta today?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Wimar MJ kid? What would Cal do of his home stadium?
Was the Yankees seventy five home runs? Seriously, seventy five
add another fifteen to that freaking elementary school ballpark where
the porch is like one hundred and fifty feet to joke.
That's another thing. I didn't even get into that really
(31:25):
too much. All Right, we'll talk to the mayor and
Ferns coming up new jets is wearing. She's got her
Matty Beneer's jersey on today.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Looks good. All right, we'll talk to the mayor.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's getting ready for his show, and of course kracking
game tonight. They got to take care of business and
get this thing going back in the right direction against Winnipeg.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Don't go anywhere. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Thank you to Marcel Reese, Mike Dugar for coming on today.
The guy from NFL dot Com, Eric at Holme, who's
ranked the Seahawks number one.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The power rankings will be on tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And and Ian Ritchie from Fantasy from Circa Fantasy, you'll
be answering your questions and from money into another. Mister Furness,
he's got his uh, you know, his TV outfit on.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's looking at you calling the game tonight.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
No, I'm doing the pregame intermissions, mister back Foreslen's back,
so I'm back on the desk with Allison. And by
by the way, that's I'm not just saying this because
he's from my hometown. Like John Foreslyn is one of
the best play by play announcers ever.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, he's unbelievable. And you guy, like you're the whole
team that there is. You guys are like everything Piper,
you everybody is great. So you know, it's uh, it's good.
One of the things that oh did.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You hear this story today?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Anne the chairman from the coach Mac Rhodes.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, so so he stepped down today, right, and he's
stepping down from his duties at Baylor. Well, the I
think the story is yesterday he was told to step
down from Baylor because here's this is how wild this is.
So the original story comes out because he had an
altercation on the sidelines with a player and a consistant
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coach on Saturday. Then did this Saturday this past Saturday,
and then he had one in September.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Maybe yeah, he had another one too.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
So so the school says, you're gonna you're gonna go
figure this out. This was like Monday.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
They kind of told him that.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well Tuesday, he's in charge of the College Football Playoff
Committee and he's front and center doing the ESPN stuff
after that, and then it comes out yesterday that because
I remember seeing the story thinking, wait, Macrohods, he's the
CFP chair chairman.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
WHOA, that's weird.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So then this and then the school put him on
the sidelines first, and I thought to myself, well that's interesting.
So you just put the College Football Playoff chairman on
the sidelines as Baylor. What about the CFP? And then
obviously they falled suit or he stepped out, whatever it is.
But yeah, now, by the way, what uh now? Can
I also say something, how ridiculous, Mark, is it that
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you have a sitting athletic director as the chair for
the college football playoff commed because let's go back. Why
is he on the sidelines now because of his altercation
on the sidelines at one game. You're an athletic director.
Your job on a Saturday is to be at your school,
shaking hands, kissing babies, making sure the donors are taken
care of, blah blah blah. You're not watching the other
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top twenty games in the country. That he's not watching
the biggest games in the Big ten SEC and ACC
in Big twelve. He's worried about his school or getting
into altercations with athletes were doing that exactly. So there's
a report out there, and if it is, I'm happy
because I know this guy very well. Arkansas eflet director
Hunter Yurroicek will take over for mac Rhodes as the
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playoff committee chairman. And I just got a text likely
to happen, but the formality of the presidents and chancellors
need to govern final approval. Hunter is going to be
the chairman of the playoff committee. So regardless this is
just odd, very odd, really really odd. But but it's
not title nind he there's no, no, it's a dude.
(35:11):
It was a dude that he you know, yelled at
or whatever. It was a player right by the way.
It's I mean, come on, what's your an athletic director.
Why you've got to a player exactly during the game. Yeah, no,
you can't be doing that. And Baylor's had so many
got their list of issues?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Was his own player? Yeah, oh yeah, finally didn't and
the basketball a player killed someone?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, I mean they had and we go through we
can don't even get on Drew that we could call
up the Baylor resume here and have all kinds of fun. Right, well,
what was the coach named Drew?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Was his first thing? No?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh Bryce?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
No, uh no, no, no, no, no, not to get no, no,
the guy who's the football coach?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh, it was oh our Briles Art Briles trials.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Who then got hired by a high school at one point,
and then that tells you how far he dropped. Well,
but no, it was like a Texas high school that
pays you like two hundred and fifty grand Right.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
By the way, Hey, they'll overlook anything.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
They're good. Yeah, they're good. Just just win us some
games Friday, last day. Can you win Friday? Can you win? Baby?
Let's go. The boy wants you to win this week.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Oh my two hundred, Oh god, Texas football is different
just different world, different world.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
What do you got today?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
We're gonna our guy Corbus Smith his weekly visit will
join us from Emerald City Spectrum coming up here at
one twenty wrote a good story on the quarterback matchup
between Darnold and Stafford this weekend, and then our fantasy
guy Bredan Funston at two o'clock. Remember your text come
in four nine, four or five one, not a second
before one o'clock, not a second before one o'clock. I
(36:43):
talked to the Great Kevin Shockey yesterday. He was joking.
He said I heard you so invoking that rule, and
I said, damn right, am, like we were.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Not so one o'clock.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Get your text in four nine, four to five one
for Funston, and then Corbyn will talk about this massive
matchup this weeknt between the Seahawks and the Rams.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Hey, you know it would be crazy. Just think about
this and let's see if it does happen. I'm not
saying it's gonna happen. Okay, Matthew Stafford. Right now, he
and Drake May are the odds on favorite f MVP.
What if Donald comes in and out play Stafford big
time on Sunday? I mean, think about it. Yeah, I
don't know if I'm not saying's gonna happen, but you
(37:20):
never know that. Hey, what what is Chris Berman? The
one thing he would say that wasn't annoying?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's why they played the games, you know what? And
Mark that's that is it?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Now?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
You know what hurt has hurt Stafford or not Stafford Donald?
I think is the fact that they've had these these
had these three belong twelve twelve past attempts on Sunday,
killed it, killed it, and and you know what they
did then what they did against jackson not Jacksonville, who
was it the Commanders, and then what they did against
the Saints like he drew locks, had a lot of
them up up mop up time this year. And you
(37:53):
know Stafford hasn't or Donald hasn't patted the stats yep, yep.
So we'll look forward to if he outplayed Stafford, they win.
That's that's the most obvious statement you'll here on sports radio.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Just number I forgot to ask you this question, Number one,
when do you remember this big of a regular season game?
How long ago was it where you felt that this
team had a chance to go to the Super Bowl
twenty sixteen at the forty nine ers any year, you
know what, I'm.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Gonna look that up in the brick, because no, here's
a thing when they had home field advantage in twenty
thirteen and twenty fourteen and had and won the NFC
Championship close two years. Yea, both years that came down
to the final game, they didn't have. They didn't Pete
Carroll never had the ability to sit Russell Wilson in
the final week of a regular season.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Okay, look, twenty sixteen, they needed a win over San
Francisco and they went on the road and beat Colin
Kaepernick and then they got the three seed in the division.
But the Rams sucked that year too, and then.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
They beat Stafford. Here he's went for Detroit, I think,
right right exactly, But that they've never been it, this
is yeah. I mean, if you ask me, I don't
know if they've had one in the regular like in
the middle of the regular season, right, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, it's awesome, all right. I fornascal research to do
here in the break. Okay, here you go. There, I
give you their homework assignment. Yeah, just don't don't worry.
You'll you'll be good in Wazoo education. Can I will
see you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us
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