May 6, 2025 • 37 mins
Mariners broadcaster, Aaron Goldsmith joins Marc to talk about Jorge Polanco's success so far, what is going on with Julio Rodriguez, and much more. Marc and Christopher hit the text line and read back messages from listeners, and we wrap the show with Ian Furness as he shares what he has planned for his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As the Mariners get ready for Game two of that
three game series against divisional rival A's is Aaron Goldsmith,
who's been part of the Mariners broadcast team now for
looks like twelve thirteen years, and I did not even
know that he actually spent some time in my former
neck of the woods, New England as a former play
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by play voice for the Pass Socks the pot Tucket
Red Sox. Aaron, first and foremost appreciate you making time.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Good to have you a good accident.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah. So how about the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They've won sixteen of their previous twenty two games. Last
night's game obviously didn't go the way they wanted it to,
but I want it for a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I want to get to.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
When you know, I'm watching that game last night, and
you and Angie did a great job on the broadcast,
and bases are loaded with Munos on the mound, there
are no outs, and your call after he struck out
the third batter in that inning when there were no out,
bases loaded odds certainly not in his favor. I mean,
are you just like at that point, Andre Munos, you
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are ridiculous or what.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, we've seen it for a while now, and that
was about as good as the kids. I mean, that's
Peak Andres Munos. And there aren't many guys obviously in
any bullpen in baseball who can get out of that
kind of a jam like Munos did. You have to
have elite level swinging miss stuff to be able to
do that, because you're playing for us writdown right, and
you've got to be able to miss bat in that situation.
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And Munos did, and he's he has looked as good
as ever so far this season, and it's been a
major reason why the Mariners are where they are right
now in the standings.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, there certainly is another reason why they are where
they are is the play of Jorge Polanco. And nobody,
including me, I didn't see this come in before the
season began. What have you noticed from last season, which
he had a really down year, to this year has
been the biggest difference in his game.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, I mean last year was the worst year of
his career. And this was a guy that the Mariners
not only were going after hard, but had gone after
hard for quite some time to bring to Seattle. And
when he came to Seattle last year, the Mariners really
circled him as a key cog in the middle of
that lineup, a guy who hid from both sides of
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the plate, who was going to help even out your lineup,
and a proven veteran hitter and All star. We've been
a part of some really good Twins teams and he
just wasn't healthy last year. And it's you know, it's
funny if you're a big league ballplayer. No big leaguer
wants to tell somebody when they're not healthy. And there's
a difference between being unhealthy and not being able to play,
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and being unhealthy and still being able to grit it
out and give your team at bats in this case,
like Polanko did, and that's what he did to his credit.
I mean, he knew it was hurting his numbers. He
knew it was not the first impression that he wanted
to make in a city and for all, he knew
that might be his only year as the Mariner, And
it looked like that might be his only year for
a while into this offseason. But now we are seeing
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the extreme opposite.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I don't know if Je Flanke Flanka will be Aaron
Judge two point zero for the full season, which is
what he has been so far this year. But there's
no doubt he is I'm going to say he's healthy.
He's only been able to hit from one side of
the plate, although last night, if the inning had allowed,
he was on deck when one of the late innings ended.
He was batting right handed on deck, so it looked
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as though he was going to hit right handed against
a lefty reliever for the Athletics. So, you know, we'll
see what his status is in terms of is he
in there today with springs on the mound a left
handed pitcher. But he's he's been an incredible element for
this Mariners team so far this season.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Aaron Goldsmith joins us here on MJ in the mid day.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Can you see him possibly fitting because we know that
hot corner right now is belonging to Ben Williamson, who's
certainly more than an exceeded the expectations of him there.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Can you see Polanco perhaps just.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Making you know, I guess if you had to find
a spot for him somewhere would be at first base.
He can plato at rowdy t Lez or Solano.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, I think the Mariners roster has fit generally well
with Polanco being shoehorned into the DH spot on a
regular basis, and with the production that he has given
this team offensively, I guess I would be a little
surprised if the Mariners tried to get him back into
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the field. This is the now He's at some point,
he's going to cool down, right, and at some point
the roster very well could get to a position where, okay,
he is now normalized. He is now a normal hitter,
not a nuclear hitter, which is what he has been.
And maybe there's a situation where the Mariners do need
some help either at second base or at third base.
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But until that happens, and while he is as hot
as the sun, I mean I would be surprised that
the Mariners did anything because, I mean, you look at
what they have done so far this season. They have
been carried by their offense, and in many games this
year it has been one of the top five offenses
in baseball, and it's really because of a core group
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of roughly four to five ish players and Jorge Polanco
is I mean right there one a one B with
cal Raley. So as long as this has going the
way that it is, and Williamson is holding his own
of the plate, and it's been tremendous defensively at third.
This is more than you could have hoped for it
if you're the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Aaron, you look at last year's team and obviously it
was predicated upon the starting pitching staff who really carried
the team throughout this season, and you know, certainly, you
know there were second least feuse run score next to
Chicago White Sox. This year seems to be the antithesis
of that. It seems like this product is certainly much
more aesthetically pleasing for the fans to watch. How much
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have you seen in this team so far? They're you know,
been able to pretty much, you know, if they're down
three nothing, well the game's not over Where last year
it was tough to be able to manufacture runs. Do
you find that this year's Manners team, albeit all six
weeks though, is a little more pleasing to watch from
a fan standpoint?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, everybody's got their own taste in ice cream, right,
Some people like, some people like chocolate. I think there's
there's no doubt it's fun to see the ball go
over the fence. It's fun to see guys cross home plate.
And the win loss record speaks for itself that it's
been working so far this year. Part of the reason
why it's been working is because it has been an
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extreme right, it's been an extreme offensive team so far
this season when you compare it to the rest of
the league. I don't obviously, the Mariners are hopeful that
they can have both, right, They're hopeful that some version
of this offense can us to exist for the rest
of the year. They might not average six runs a
game for the rest of the year like they have
over the roughly almost twenty five games that you reference
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off the top, but they've played so well. But I
think there is reason to be optimistic that even if
the offense regresses to somewhere in the neighborhood of four
four and a half runs per game, somewhere in that vicinity,
once you get Kirby back, once you get Gilbert back,
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that all of a sudden you can now have the
best of both worlds. And at some point Victor Roeblaze
will be on the horizon later this summer, which will
only help things you would have to imagine offensively. So,
I mean, it's funny for as many things that have
not clicked this year for the Mariners, whether that be
injuries or in certain cases starting pitching. So many things
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have gone right for the Mariners on one side of
the ball in particular, and that is offensively in particular
with the big guys have a lot of them have
been a playing to an All Star, if not MVP level,
and other players that you really saw more as complimentary
pieces coming of the year have been that and more
in terms of their overall production, especially when you think
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about the bottom through of the lineup. So I mean
it's been to get back to the root of your question,
it has been a joy to watch I think last
year to see elite level starting pitching is also really
fun to watch. Bottom line, are you winning games? And
the Mariners are winning games this year?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
They certainly are.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
One guy who's certainly very a hot button on this
show that a lot of fans certainly don't have a
shortage of opinions on as Julio Rodriguez. Obviously we know
we saw the catch he made last night. Defensively, you know,
you'd be hard pressed to find anybody better in Major
League Baseball who has that type of range with his
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glove on the flip side of that, He's certainly gotten
off to notoriously slow starts and this year was no exception.
And last night another Gopher, an Opher right there for four,
was able to get on base, though I believe with
a walk there. I think in extra innings around there.
It's all kind of fuzzy to me. But what is it, Julio,
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Because I feel Aaron, this guy is the biggest name
in Seattle sports right now that DK metcalf is no
longer here. I'm waiting and I think a lot of
fans are for him to get to the level of
Mookie Bets or Juan Soto or Aaron Judge and your
and I only I know it's his fourth year in
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the league. He's very young, and Juan Soto, you know
last year this year wasn't the guy that he was
with the Nats.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But when will When will Julio pop and be that
guy that can lead this team game in in, game
out like a real true superstar.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, that is a It's a fair question to ask,
and nobody has the answer to that, right, I Mean,
that's that's kind of the fun of of of this
whole thing. As we we have to watch every night
and see if developed in front of us. I think yes,
he is arguably the biggest name in Seattle sports. It's
certainly the biggest draw on this Mariners team, and we
all know why because of what his peak can look like.
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I will say, for as frustrating as the first however
many weeks it's been for the Mariners, so through thirty
plus games for the MS, for as frustrating as the
start to his season is, I think it's worth noting
he hasn't been a black hole. You know, the Mariners
were just in Arlington, and I mean, God bless him.
Jack Peterson is hitting ninety somethings with zero home runs
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and one RBI, and he signed an incredibly lucrative free
agent contract. This is a veteran hitter with the track record,
and he's a black hole right now, and he's in
baseball hell trying to figure things out, right. And this
is a guy who has been around much longer than Julio. Obviously,
Julio is not playing like Julio wants to play. Everyone
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acknowledg which is that. However, he recently had an on
base streak of almost twenty games snap. So even though
he is not producing offensively like he certainly would want
to or anyone else. He isn't walking back to the
dugout every single time with nothing to show for it.
And to your point earlier, he is still an elite
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level defensive player, and obviously whatever frustrations he has offensively
had not seas into his game defensively, which I think
is he deserves great credit for. Unfortunately, we kind of
know how the season start for Julio, and I don't know,
maybe this is just a thing that will happen, but
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the Mariners are in a fortunate position right now where
they have had multiple hitters not just step up but
perform in other worldly levels so far through the roughly
first thirty some odd games of the season, and that
has allowed Julio to try to work through some things.
Not a perfect world, obviously, you got all nine guys
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flicking a one time. That's not how baseball works. We
all know that. I think the realistic hope is that
when some of the other hitters that have been really
carrying the offense so far this year start to cool
down and kind of regress to more of a norm
than you would expect, that we see Julio start to
pick it up, it will ebb and flow, because I mean,
take Jorge Polanco. At some point he will come down, right,
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And unfortunately, Julio's down is happening out of the gates.
When Polanco is down, whenever that might inevitably happen, We'll
all be able to look back and say, yeah, but
look how many games he helped win for the Mariners
in the first thirty forty, maybe even fifty games of
the season. And now he's regressing to more of the
mean like anyone would because he's human. Unfortunately, for Julio,
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there is no track record to start twenty twenty five
until you get to opening day, and this is and
his struggles are happening immediately. So it's a long winded answer.
I apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But no, no, no, no, no, listen, we got time.
You don't ever have to apologize. Listen, Aaron, we like
long when it answers are good on sports radio.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean, I watch it every day. Yeah, I understand
the frustration. The biggest The biggest frustration is right, he's
he's not doing damage. Right, It's it's a lot of singles.
There aren't as many devils and home runs as you
would like. But I think it's worth noting he's walking
more this year and he's not striking out a lot.
I mean, he's basically he's a league average hitter in
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terms of the strikeout, so that that has not been
an issue. But you are looking for more damage and
obviously you're looking for more more hits in general.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You know the thing that bothers me a lot about
Julio which I try to notice certain things about him
in tendencies. And believe me, obviously I Grew Martinez and
Kevin sites Are certainly could say he swings on a
lot of first pitches.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Do you notice that, Aaron, he's.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
A very aggressive hitter. His overall swing rate this year
is basically in line what it's been last year when
when I looked at it, I think he does. He
does swing at a lot of first pitches. And I
think one of my favorite things just about learning about
hitting and watching hitters of all levels and skill sets
in this game a year at a time, years at
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a time, is that you can find hitters Mjay that
are the most patient in baseball. Think of Alan Soto
who rarely swing at the first pitch, who take and
take and their elite level hitters. You can also find
hitters who are the most aggressive in the game. I
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mean you think about like a Boba Schett when he
was leading the league in hits in consecutive seasons, and
they can be great hitters. So I don't think it's fair,
and I'm not saying that you were saying this, but
I don't think it's fair to watch the game and say, oh, well,
he's too passive or he's too aggressive. It'll never work
that way. You can truly find all star level hitters
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on complete opposite end of the spectrum. It really comes
down to just who you are as a hitter, what
comes to you naturally. Either one can work. And I'm
not suggesting that maybe he shouldn't be more passive or
it should be even more aggressive, but I will say
he has naturally been an aggressive hitter and has been
a for his career a good hitter. It's just a
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matter of what can you make for work for you,
because both have proven over one hundred year history of
this game that you can be an All Star, if
not a Hall of Famer, doing one of either of
the extremes as long as you can make it work
for you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, fair point.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think the one word we can agree upon just
be more selective. I think that's what it comes down to.
So if they're throwing you junk on the first pitch,
you know, just take. That's all you want to do,
Just take. I got to ask you. I'd be remiss
if I'd ask you about this, obviously, George Kirby, you
know we're waiting none. Last week Gary Hill was on
with us and he said that he was throwing. He
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had a throw in session. He just lost the eighth
logan Gilbert Brian Woo.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He has been phenomenal. He's been, like you know, going
at six inning threshold. I believe in his last four
or four out of five starts. But do you have
any timetable you heard any update status on when George
Kirby could come back.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, he went three innings in his first start and
it seemed to go very well. Obviously, the numbers were
good and it sounds like he felt good afterwards. My
sense is that once he can get to about eighty
pitches and he might be I don't know, he might
be two rehab starts away from that. Once he can
basically give you five innings in a game or approved
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that he can, that's when you can start realistically thinking
about making his next start in a Mariner's uniform. I
don't know if he needs to be, you know, fully
built up to a seven inning outing to get him
up here the Mariners. Obviously, five innings from Kirby is
worth more than five or six from someone else, obviously,
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given his skill set. So I think that the timetable
that I've last heard for both Kirby and for Gilbert,
they do expect both of them up here at some
point before the end of the month, which is certainly encouraging.
Is which would be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It'll be good, I mean, Logan Gilbert and I had
Carl Ravich on this show at the beginning of the
season and he said that was his pick for the
American League silng Award winner, and justifiably so he's been.
But Brian Wu, he has certainly been. I mean, five
quality starts out of six, he's been nothing short of tremendous.
And so is your work on Root Sports. You and
Angie and look forward to tonight hopefully can get this
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one done and then try to make it nine consecutive
winning series before they come back, and welcome in the
Blue Jays and then Aaron Judge and the Yankees next week. Aaron,
first time, but certainly not the last time. We appreciate
you stopping by and making time there. And I would say,
enjoy Sacramento, but I'd be lying because I don't know
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if there's much to enjoy about Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, it' Torman Sonny, Okay, fair enough, and it is
the capital of California.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
It is that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But welcome.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm sure you'd be looking forward to coming back to
Paradise this fall.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Football weather.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I've been enjoying for the platte past three weeks here
in the PMW. Who's been nothing short of Mother Nature
basically shining upon us. So yeah, have a great call
tonight and we'll do it again sooner than later.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Thank you, Eron, Thank you, j Welcome to town, man,
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Very much, sir. I appreciate that. Aaron Goldsmith. Good stuff there,
very good stuff. Yeah, a lot of things unpack and
I think the end there. Oh, please Gilbert and Kirby
coming back before the end of the month. Yes, please,
let's make this happen.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, if that happens, then all of a sudden,
the Mariners can go to the next level.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And it's gonna take Kirby some time.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Because he hasn't yet right in the entire twenty twenty
five season against live bullets in the major leagues. You know,
it's this isn't you know, bullpen sessions or you know
that sort of thing. So but you get those two
guys back before the end of the month, and then
all of a sudden, you can start to maybe hopefully
separate themselves from the A's and the Astros. I'm still
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not sold on the Rangers. I think the Rangers are
They're weak. I mean, they're pitching is good. I respect
their pitching lighter to gram Evaldi Molly, but I just
think can't Like I said, my one of my favorite
quotes is from Tommy Lasaura couldn't hit water if they
fell out of a freaking boat, and he doesn't say
freaking though. Coming up next though the what do you
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say text of the day. We've already had a bunch
of them. I think I've I think today, for all
of you that might not have liked me, maybe I've
won you over today.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No souper for her, No souper for her. We'll get
to that four nine four five one.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You want to hear your text Rednecks right here on
MJ in the MIDA ninety three three kJ Rtham four
nine one on the free agent text line, So what
do you say? Text of the day before I forget.
Let me think the great Iron Eagle and also the
great Aaron Goldsmith for stopping by today. Good stuff out
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of both of them. Looking forward to it's usually tough
to be able to replicate what was last night. It's
it's tough to make lightning strike twice. But I'm talking
about the NBA playoffs, but hopefully it's great tonight.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And also the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Can I mean, that's a two game losing streak. You
gotta get this thing going now right. You got to
get back off the schneid. I'll say this, man, I'm
impressed with the A's. They are young, and they are
they look they just look like they're just one of
those teams that you know they they're just on the
come up, you know, they they could be the part
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of the future of baseball. They got a lot Solderstrom,
Mason Miller. They've just got some guys there that can
you know, they're not going to be sellar dwellers like
they have been, and once they make the move to Vegas,
they might be a hot ticket. Who knows, all right,
MJ two five three? Did she go to jail? If
so she couldn't text her phone as confiscated. If you're
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locked up on a Saturday, you go before the judge
on Monday and you release you probably with bail and
ankle breathalyzer monitor. Wonder if this whole story is made
up in a scam. Good for you for not taking
the bait. I love it, hey, fellas I was. You
know I'm right now. I'm raising as Christopher Kid.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Chris Kid. Tell the audience what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
In his right hand, he is donning a miniature Doctor
Pepper and he's holding it high.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's for you, guys and gals. I've no soup for her,
no cash for her. I'm raising as Dr Pepper for
each and every one of you.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Earlier on in the show, Mark and I talked about
the NBA playoffs and this is from the two and.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's been seventeen eighteen years of I mean, I literally
could swear right now of what they did to this city,
one of the best basketball cities in the world. And
it's just, you know, and I get it. I wasn't here.
I just got here.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Here's the one thing one host said this one time
in Atlanta, and he said, you can come into a city,
you can know every team's history like the back of
your hand, but you'll never know their pain. And I
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don't now, I don't know the pain that has been
felt by everybody here. An entire generation has been devoid
of having the most beloved franchise here in Seattle, the SuperSonics,
the team that brought the first ever world title to
this city in nineteen seventy nine. And so I don't
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know what that pain feels like. I'm trying to put
myself in ear shoes. But I've been in a bunch
of different markets. And you know, I didn't have the
NBA when I was in Tampa, just because they don't
have an NBA team, But it was only an hour
and forty five minutes down the road in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
But when I was in Atlanta, there was the Hawks.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
In Charlotte there was the Hornets and the Bobcats, and
Boston of course the Celtics and then before that Miami
with the heat. So I don't know what it's like,
and it sucks. I mean, it just sucks. From the
two h six couple of them and four two five. Yes,
she sounds like an attic. I would know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I was one.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Well, I'm glad that you were no longer and you've
been able to move on and get your life clean.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
From the four to two five. Nice move. Now block
that number pretty straightforward, yep, yep. To the point.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
From the two five to three power rankings. Two early
power rankings after the NFL Draft, Seahawks were ranked fifteenth,
middle of the road, understandable, but sixteenth yep or sixteenth?
This is from the two five to three. People are crazy.
I already put money on the Seahawks to win the
division NFC West and the over on wins for this
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season seven and a half. They are not third or
fourth team in the NFC West. That's nuts, No, I agree,
I agreed.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Listen, man, next time I go to the casino, I'm
going on the over.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
If they got those odds already.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Seahawks are gonna win more than I have the Seahawks
winning maybe ten games, get way over seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Unless this whole Sam Donald thing is a complete bust,
which that would that it won't be. But I don't
think it will be. I think it's I think Sam
Donald's gonna be. You know, is he gonna put up thirty.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Five touchdowns this year like you did in Minnesota? No,
the spoiler alert, it's not a prediction. It's just spoil alert.
It's not gonna happen. Okay, let's just stop that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Can he get twenty four touchdowns and maybe eight picks?
He does that, They run the ball, they don't turn
it over too much. This team's gonna win ten, maybe
eleven or more games. I'm telling you. I can see
it from the four to two five. That's what That's
why Pennix is gonna thrive even though he's a left hander.
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Because the dude throws the laser into an eye of
a needle. Yes, he certainly does.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
This is from the four two five San Francisco under
seven wins book.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It I agree with that. I'm all with you. I
don't get this forty nine er love. They suck like
they like they suck or they have injuries. Well, they
had injuries like Detroit, but like they had a horrible.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Offseason that their team is fine.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
They had injuries, Okay, but McCaffrey's always hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
He'll be hurt again, all right, Like, let's just see
I can't stay healthy. Okay, fair enough. Suck might have
been the wrong word on them. I just don't trust them.
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Something there with.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
The fact that you keep banging on Christian McCaffrey getting hurt,
right to have the baddest injury look probably in the NFL. Now,
I'm sure Detroit. Well I'm talking about over the last
what four or five years.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Maybe maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Missing a study time.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
McCaffrey was hurt in Carolina.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He was.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
He was Oh yeah, I thought he just had the
hamstring injury and that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
No, he was hurt, and that's one of the reasons
that they decided to trade him. And he was He
got off to that Saquon Barkley start of his career
where he was hurt and and yeah, you can go
look it up. And I used to work there and
people tell me McCaffrey was always hurt. We knew he
was a great player, but he was always hurt H MJ.
(26:57):
The two thirty cutoff is impound before the cost gets
to get out of impound, if you have to get
a tow truck. I work for an impound company. So
maybe that's what the two thirty cutoff was. Maybe that's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
What do you got?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I obviously, well, what did you find out on the toe?
Are you? Are you looking at Tomio McCaffrey or the
two thirty I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Talking about the two thirty posts you just read because
when I when I when we talked about it, I said, Man,
two thirty, that's a random time.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That is a random times the time that he's giving
her to get back.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And I just didn't understand that. Yeah, that's what I
was thinking.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Maybe, like listen, I'm not saying it was a Legit
just it seemed fishy and it was I don't know,
I you know, it is what it is?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
This one is from the two five to three. He
never Julio never had to earn the contract he was given.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
M Christopher kids. Sometimes my memory is of blessing and occurs.
The last three years of this isn't a Texas is
me just talking to you? The last three years of
McCaffrey and Carolina twenty twenty three games, twenty twenty one
seven games, twenty twenty two six games. So he played
a grand total of sixteen games in three years. He
was always hurt at the end his first three years. Amazing,
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he played all sixteen games. His last three years, he
couldn't stay on the field. That's why they got rid
of him. That's why the Giants allowed Saquon Barkley to
go to Philly that he was always hurt there. Now
it ended up costing him and it costing Carolina as well.
But you know, he's gotta stay healthy. He's got I
if I could put the Seahawks like versus another team
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and fade the other team, I'm taking the Hawks over
the Niners.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I don't trust the forty nine ers. I just don't anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Something has gone foul awry in San Francisco. I don't
like it now. They asked me a question here, Chris MJ.
Do you still got okay s with gaining home court advantage?
Guess what I did, Chris? What did I do, kid,
I hedged. I was at Muckle shoot on Sunday and
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guess what I did?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You ready for this? Now?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I have more financial interest in Denver, So I need Denver, now,
I hedge. I got okay, see if they go to
the NBA Finals, and we're all fine, But all I need.
If Denver goes to the NBA Finals, all they have
to do is win the Western Conference. I win two grand.
If they win the NBA Finals, I win three grand.
So I'm all on Denver now. If the other if
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it's not Denver, I'm hoping, okay, see, because they were
the first, I'm hoping it's not Minnesota or Golden State.
So I'm not putting anything on them. But I am
all in on the Nuggets. That's a great question. From
the two five to three, so yep.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Last one for me from the two five to three.
The last player I want coming up in a clutch
situation is Julio. Enough said, And to all the Mariner
fans out there, please knock off the Julio chanting. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Well well, well, uh let me see, happy to be listening.
Glad you didn't take my advice for three hundred dollars.
Really sounds a bit fishy. Women like that give all
the good ones a bad name from like. That's from Kathleen. Yes, Kathleen,
you are a great woman. And I you know what
I uh, something was and it could have been legit,
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but it felt it just didn't the smell test, you know,
two o six. At least that date wasn't last Saturday.
Can't get buzzed on fifteen cokes and diet cokes. Oh,
nice to meet you. And she was a sweetie. It's
from John John at Nolita. That's right, See that, folks.
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I had fifteen cokes and she had a bunch of
diet cokes.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I did have one glass of red wine.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
One but I can trust trust me when I tell you,
after that great meal at Nolita, after one glass of wine,
I was okay to get behind the wheel. I would
never jeopardize my life or the life of any others
throughout King County, Seattle and the PNW.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Nice to meet you too, John. One more thing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Uh, I'm not gonna say anything bad about Aaron Goldsmith.
He was fine, So don't don't try to don't go
to me. I'm gonna mention this again. From the two
five three. We need to sacrifice a live chicken to
get Julio to lay off the breaking ball. I just
want him to not take the first pitch. Can he
take a first pitch? For crying out loud? Please, I'm
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just begging you, all right, that's it. I appreciate everybody
who texted in the what do you say? Texts of
the day. Oh, I gotta get one more in, Chris,
because this one, this one, and this could be the
what do you say the text of the day.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So Seattle sawt criticism on the superstars that are making
two hundred plus million to be that superstar embarrassing. In
any other market, he'd be ripped a f N men
to that AFN men.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
If Julio was.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
In playing for the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox Phillies, he'd
be getting villified and crucified every single day on ninety
eight five the sports Hub, WFA N or w IP
Believe you me, I'm the one. I hear you fans,
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and I'm the one going in with the criticism. And
every time he has an O fer, I'm gonna say,
Julio for three, Holly oh for four, I'm gonna be
doing that every time he has an O for like
he did last night. Thanks again for texting final sayment
crosstalk with the Mayor next God the Mayor and I
(32:42):
thanks again Aaron Goldsmith and Iron Eagle. The Mayor and
I were just talking about I got a buddy of
mine up in New York because he's a Mets fan
and a Knicks fan, so we're obviously exchanging texts on
the Knicks last night. Oh by the way, oh my
Islanders just got the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I'm like, yeah, I don't give a bleep.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
And I'm like, so, I asked Ian, being the hockey guy,
how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
New York?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, the name, I mean, it's y. I don't
think the Rangers. I I'll be honest with you. I
didn't pay too much attention to the lottery this year.
And listen, yeah, I work for him. I hope they
got the number one pick. Cracking that is this is
a year it didn't matter. It didn't matter, No, it
didn't matter. I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
There's no McDavid.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, there will be all stars in there, like
there aren't every draft for every sport, but not a transformer,
but not a guy that's just an unquestioned number one.
I mean the Schaefer kid is a defenseman. Sure, yeah, maybe,
I mean I don't know. It's there's but there's yeah,
there's not that one. Like you gotta win it because
Connor McDavid's there, you gotta win it. You mentioned Anthony
Davis back in the day within with them with the
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Charlotte team, Like, there's not that guy necessarily that, So
it's it's you know, those are the funny things with
lotteries like well, you know, like even this year in
the NFL draft, I mean, cam Ward was number one,
but there's a lot of year. I mean Tennessee needed
a quarterback. It was a perfect fit. Right, Sure, what
if it's somebody else that doesn't need a quarterback, he
wouldn't have been number one. The no, there was no
unquestioned number one. It was number one because of a need.
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And you know, but certain drafts have that certain drafts
on I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Glad Lebron had brought up that the NBA draft lotteries
rigged because we all knew it was going back to
the days of the frozen envelope with Patrick Ewing in
nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We know that, but I will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So Lebron does the decision in July twenty ten, and
Cleveland is decimated. They got nothing. The following year, they
get the number one pick, and they earned it. They
were the worst team in the NBA. They got Kyrie Irving.
The next year they get the number one pick, and
it was like Tristan Thompson. Then the next year they
get the number one pick and he was a bust
in Anthony Bennett then and then they then the following
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year they get the number one pick and he was good,
great Andrew Wiggins, and then they traded him for Kevin
Love to win a title. But for three out of
four years they had the first or the second pick
in the draft.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It's all rigged.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
It always does feel though, although as we talk about
it being rigged, would it be better if the NFL
did it?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
No? No, no, would it I don't think so. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I mean, I I don't know if there's true tanking
in the NFL. But there's teams that are done right,
Like there's teams that are playing you know, Tommy DeVito
at quarterback or whatever right. I mean, like when you
get to December, there's teams that are done.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
How about the Patriots, where like they had hired one
of the worst coaches in NFL history, they fired after
one Yeard Mail.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
And he beats Buffalo which cost.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Him one three and three.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's right, Yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Guy could be a bust short arms with Campbell. Yeah,
I mean that's what I Travis Hunter, actual car and
the Menders did that. They they beat I want to
say it was the A's back when Steven Strasburg was
coming out and all they had to do was lose
another series. I think it was the A's that beat him,
I believe. But they won two of their final three
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games and didn't get strawsper.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Are you kidding me? Wow?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
So that you know, so there's a case of a
team not tanking right, but you should have but you
should you should have laid down?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Should should have? Lad What do we got coming up on? Buddy?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Joe Shean talking baseball won twenty today and then uh
we talked to John London too. One of the things
about so this is the first not last time, was
the first night that I watched a game from Sacramento
like a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
What a joke. Yeah, it's a joke.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What an app By the way, the Ras are playing
the Yankee spring training in Tampa, but.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
That's because they have to, Yeah, because a hurricane. There's
no hurricane in Oakland. It was it was just well,
it was it was.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
That was that.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I'll get some thoughts on Baseball's got a lot of issues,
and I think if you just want to kind of
you like, what's a what's a good illustration of what's
wrong with baseball?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It's what's that? It's that at one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, and one more thing I like, if you have
time to ask Sean Lund is that did the Warriors
have another one?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And up? Can they get by the Young Lion? The
Young Lion? That a man, you know, a man he
came to the league.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
When he listened he came to the league, he said
he wanted to beat Durant. Did it last year in
the first round. He wanted to beat Lebron did it
this year in the first round. But when he came
to the league, he was drafted. He said he wants
to beat the Warriors because he wants to shut up
Draymond Green.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Chance there now he's got Chan. I don't care about that.
I just care about Oklahoma City losing. So good night.
Oh there you go, big.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Thanks Anthony Gordon, Thank you, buddy, Aaron.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
A G baby a G.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, I'm more financial interests on the Nuggets. Thanks to
Christopher Kidd. We'll see tomorrow on MJ in the midday.
Stay tuned next for the Mayor, Maple Valley and Furness
from one to three, and then Softy and Dick will
drive you home from three to seven.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Right here on ninety three to three kJ R F
M
As the Mariners get ready for Game two of that
three game series against divisional rival A's is Aaron Goldsmith,
who's been part of the Mariners broadcast team now for
looks like twelve thirteen years, and I did not even
know that he actually spent some time in my former
neck of the woods, New England as a former play
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by play voice for the Pass Socks the pot Tucket
Red Sox. Aaron, first and foremost appreciate you making time.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Good to have you a good accident.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah. So how about the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They've won sixteen of their previous twenty two games. Last
night's game obviously didn't go the way they wanted it to,
but I want it for a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I want to get to.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
When you know, I'm watching that game last night, and
you and Angie did a great job on the broadcast,
and bases are loaded with Munos on the mound, there
are no outs, and your call after he struck out
the third batter in that inning when there were no out,
bases loaded odds certainly not in his favor. I mean,
are you just like at that point, Andre Munos, you
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are ridiculous or what.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, we've seen it for a while now, and that
was about as good as the kids. I mean, that's
Peak Andres Munos. And there aren't many guys obviously in
any bullpen in baseball who can get out of that
kind of a jam like Munos did. You have to
have elite level swinging miss stuff to be able to
do that, because you're playing for us writdown right, and
you've got to be able to miss bat in that situation.
(01:32):
And Munos did, and he's he has looked as good
as ever so far this season, and it's been a
major reason why the Mariners are where they are right
now in the standings.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, there certainly is another reason why they are where
they are is the play of Jorge Polanco. And nobody,
including me, I didn't see this come in before the
season began. What have you noticed from last season, which
he had a really down year, to this year has
been the biggest difference in his game.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, I mean last year was the worst year of
his career. And this was a guy that the Mariners
not only were going after hard, but had gone after
hard for quite some time to bring to Seattle. And
when he came to Seattle last year, the Mariners really
circled him as a key cog in the middle of
that lineup, a guy who hid from both sides of
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the plate, who was going to help even out your lineup,
and a proven veteran hitter and All star. We've been
a part of some really good Twins teams and he
just wasn't healthy last year. And it's you know, it's
funny if you're a big league ballplayer. No big leaguer
wants to tell somebody when they're not healthy. And there's
a difference between being unhealthy and not being able to play,
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and being unhealthy and still being able to grit it
out and give your team at bats in this case,
like Polanko did, and that's what he did to his credit.
I mean, he knew it was hurting his numbers. He
knew it was not the first impression that he wanted
to make in a city and for all, he knew
that might be his only year as the Mariner, And
it looked like that might be his only year for
a while into this offseason. But now we are seeing
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the extreme opposite.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I don't know if Je Flanke Flanka will be Aaron
Judge two point zero for the full season, which is
what he has been so far this year. But there's
no doubt he is I'm going to say he's healthy.
He's only been able to hit from one side of
the plate, although last night, if the inning had allowed,
he was on deck when one of the late innings ended.
He was batting right handed on deck, so it looked
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as though he was going to hit right handed against
a lefty reliever for the Athletics. So, you know, we'll
see what his status is in terms of is he
in there today with springs on the mound a left
handed pitcher. But he's he's been an incredible element for
this Mariners team so far this season.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Aaron Goldsmith joins us here on MJ in the mid day.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Can you see him possibly fitting because we know that
hot corner right now is belonging to Ben Williamson, who's
certainly more than an exceeded the expectations of him there.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Can you see Polanco perhaps just.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Making you know, I guess if you had to find
a spot for him somewhere would be at first base.
He can plato at rowdy t Lez or Solano.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, I think the Mariners roster has fit generally well
with Polanco being shoehorned into the DH spot on a
regular basis, and with the production that he has given
this team offensively, I guess I would be a little
surprised if the Mariners tried to get him back into
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the field. This is the now He's at some point,
he's going to cool down, right, and at some point
the roster very well could get to a position where, okay,
he is now normalized. He is now a normal hitter,
not a nuclear hitter, which is what he has been.
And maybe there's a situation where the Mariners do need
some help either at second base or at third base.
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But until that happens, and while he is as hot
as the sun, I mean I would be surprised that
the Mariners did anything because, I mean, you look at
what they have done so far this season. They have
been carried by their offense, and in many games this
year it has been one of the top five offenses
in baseball, and it's really because of a core group
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of roughly four to five ish players and Jorge Polanco
is I mean right there one a one B with
cal Raley. So as long as this has going the
way that it is, and Williamson is holding his own
of the plate, and it's been tremendous defensively at third.
This is more than you could have hoped for it
if you're the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Aaron, you look at last year's team and obviously it
was predicated upon the starting pitching staff who really carried
the team throughout this season, and you know, certainly, you
know there were second least feuse run score next to
Chicago White Sox. This year seems to be the antithesis
of that. It seems like this product is certainly much
more aesthetically pleasing for the fans to watch. How much
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have you seen in this team so far? They're you know,
been able to pretty much, you know, if they're down
three nothing, well the game's not over Where last year
it was tough to be able to manufacture runs. Do
you find that this year's Manners team, albeit all six
weeks though, is a little more pleasing to watch from
a fan standpoint?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, everybody's got their own taste in ice cream, right,
Some people like, some people like chocolate. I think there's
there's no doubt it's fun to see the ball go
over the fence. It's fun to see guys cross home plate.
And the win loss record speaks for itself that it's
been working so far this year. Part of the reason
why it's been working is because it has been an
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extreme right, it's been an extreme offensive team so far
this season when you compare it to the rest of
the league. I don't obviously, the Mariners are hopeful that
they can have both, right, They're hopeful that some version
of this offense can us to exist for the rest
of the year. They might not average six runs a
game for the rest of the year like they have
over the roughly almost twenty five games that you reference
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off the top, but they've played so well. But I
think there is reason to be optimistic that even if
the offense regresses to somewhere in the neighborhood of four
four and a half runs per game, somewhere in that vicinity,
once you get Kirby back, once you get Gilbert back,
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that all of a sudden you can now have the
best of both worlds. And at some point Victor Roeblaze
will be on the horizon later this summer, which will
only help things you would have to imagine offensively. So,
I mean, it's funny for as many things that have
not clicked this year for the Mariners, whether that be
injuries or in certain cases starting pitching. So many things
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have gone right for the Mariners on one side of
the ball in particular, and that is offensively in particular
with the big guys have a lot of them have
been a playing to an All Star, if not MVP level,
and other players that you really saw more as complimentary
pieces coming of the year have been that and more
in terms of their overall production, especially when you think
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about the bottom through of the lineup. So I mean
it's been to get back to the root of your question,
it has been a joy to watch I think last
year to see elite level starting pitching is also really
fun to watch. Bottom line, are you winning games? And
the Mariners are winning games this year?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
They certainly are.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
One guy who's certainly very a hot button on this
show that a lot of fans certainly don't have a
shortage of opinions on as Julio Rodriguez. Obviously we know
we saw the catch he made last night. Defensively, you know,
you'd be hard pressed to find anybody better in Major
League Baseball who has that type of range with his
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glove on the flip side of that, He's certainly gotten
off to notoriously slow starts and this year was no exception.
And last night another Gopher, an Opher right there for four,
was able to get on base, though I believe with
a walk there. I think in extra innings around there.
It's all kind of fuzzy to me. But what is it, Julio,
(09:08):
Because I feel Aaron, this guy is the biggest name
in Seattle sports right now that DK metcalf is no
longer here. I'm waiting and I think a lot of
fans are for him to get to the level of
Mookie Bets or Juan Soto or Aaron Judge and your
and I only I know it's his fourth year in
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the league. He's very young, and Juan Soto, you know
last year this year wasn't the guy that he was
with the Nats.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But when will When will Julio pop and be that
guy that can lead this team game in in, game
out like a real true superstar.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, that is a It's a fair question to ask,
and nobody has the answer to that, right, I Mean,
that's that's kind of the fun of of of this
whole thing. As we we have to watch every night
and see if developed in front of us. I think yes,
he is arguably the biggest name in Seattle sports. It's
certainly the biggest draw on this Mariners team, and we
all know why because of what his peak can look like.
(10:13):
I will say, for as frustrating as the first however
many weeks it's been for the Mariners, so through thirty
plus games for the MS, for as frustrating as the
start to his season is, I think it's worth noting
he hasn't been a black hole. You know, the Mariners
were just in Arlington, and I mean, God bless him.
Jack Peterson is hitting ninety somethings with zero home runs
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and one RBI, and he signed an incredibly lucrative free
agent contract. This is a veteran hitter with the track record,
and he's a black hole right now, and he's in
baseball hell trying to figure things out, right. And this
is a guy who has been around much longer than Julio. Obviously,
Julio is not playing like Julio wants to play. Everyone
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acknowledg which is that. However, he recently had an on
base streak of almost twenty games snap. So even though
he is not producing offensively like he certainly would want
to or anyone else. He isn't walking back to the
dugout every single time with nothing to show for it.
And to your point earlier, he is still an elite
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level defensive player, and obviously whatever frustrations he has offensively
had not seas into his game defensively, which I think
is he deserves great credit for. Unfortunately, we kind of
know how the season start for Julio, and I don't know,
maybe this is just a thing that will happen, but
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the Mariners are in a fortunate position right now where
they have had multiple hitters not just step up but
perform in other worldly levels so far through the roughly
first thirty some odd games of the season, and that
has allowed Julio to try to work through some things.
Not a perfect world, obviously, you got all nine guys
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flicking a one time. That's not how baseball works. We
all know that. I think the realistic hope is that
when some of the other hitters that have been really
carrying the offense so far this year start to cool
down and kind of regress to more of a norm
than you would expect, that we see Julio start to
pick it up, it will ebb and flow, because I mean,
take Jorge Polanco. At some point he will come down, right,
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And unfortunately, Julio's down is happening out of the gates.
When Polanco is down, whenever that might inevitably happen, We'll
all be able to look back and say, yeah, but
look how many games he helped win for the Mariners
in the first thirty forty, maybe even fifty games of
the season. And now he's regressing to more of the
mean like anyone would because he's human. Unfortunately, for Julio,
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there is no track record to start twenty twenty five
until you get to opening day, and this is and
his struggles are happening immediately. So it's a long winded answer.
I apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But no, no, no, no, no, listen, we got time.
You don't ever have to apologize. Listen, Aaron, we like
long when it answers are good on sports radio.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean, I watch it every day. Yeah, I understand
the frustration. The biggest The biggest frustration is right, he's
he's not doing damage. Right, It's it's a lot of singles.
There aren't as many devils and home runs as you
would like. But I think it's worth noting he's walking
more this year and he's not striking out a lot.
I mean, he's basically he's a league average hitter in
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terms of the strikeout, so that that has not been
an issue. But you are looking for more damage and
obviously you're looking for more more hits in general.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You know the thing that bothers me a lot about
Julio which I try to notice certain things about him
in tendencies. And believe me, obviously I Grew Martinez and
Kevin sites Are certainly could say he swings on a
lot of first pitches.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Do you notice that, Aaron, he's.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
A very aggressive hitter. His overall swing rate this year
is basically in line what it's been last year when
when I looked at it, I think he does. He
does swing at a lot of first pitches. And I
think one of my favorite things just about learning about
hitting and watching hitters of all levels and skill sets
in this game a year at a time, years at
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a time, is that you can find hitters Mjay that
are the most patient in baseball. Think of Alan Soto
who rarely swing at the first pitch, who take and
take and their elite level hitters. You can also find
hitters who are the most aggressive in the game. I
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mean you think about like a Boba Schett when he
was leading the league in hits in consecutive seasons, and
they can be great hitters. So I don't think it's fair,
and I'm not saying that you were saying this, but
I don't think it's fair to watch the game and say, oh, well,
he's too passive or he's too aggressive. It'll never work
that way. You can truly find all star level hitters
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on complete opposite end of the spectrum. It really comes
down to just who you are as a hitter, what
comes to you naturally. Either one can work. And I'm
not suggesting that maybe he shouldn't be more passive or
it should be even more aggressive, but I will say
he has naturally been an aggressive hitter and has been
a for his career a good hitter. It's just a
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matter of what can you make for work for you,
because both have proven over one hundred year history of
this game that you can be an All Star, if
not a Hall of Famer, doing one of either of
the extremes as long as you can make it work
for you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, fair point.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think the one word we can agree upon just
be more selective. I think that's what it comes down to.
So if they're throwing you junk on the first pitch,
you know, just take. That's all you want to do,
Just take. I got to ask you. I'd be remiss
if I'd ask you about this, obviously, George Kirby, you
know we're waiting none. Last week Gary Hill was on
with us and he said that he was throwing. He
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had a throw in session. He just lost the eighth
logan Gilbert Brian Woo.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He has been phenomenal. He's been, like you know, going
at six inning threshold. I believe in his last four
or four out of five starts. But do you have
any timetable you heard any update status on when George
Kirby could come back.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, he went three innings in his first start and
it seemed to go very well. Obviously, the numbers were
good and it sounds like he felt good afterwards. My
sense is that once he can get to about eighty
pitches and he might be I don't know, he might
be two rehab starts away from that. Once he can
basically give you five innings in a game or approved
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that he can, that's when you can start realistically thinking
about making his next start in a Mariner's uniform. I
don't know if he needs to be, you know, fully
built up to a seven inning outing to get him
up here the Mariners. Obviously, five innings from Kirby is
worth more than five or six from someone else, obviously,
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given his skill set. So I think that the timetable
that I've last heard for both Kirby and for Gilbert,
they do expect both of them up here at some
point before the end of the month, which is certainly encouraging.
Is which would be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It'll be good, I mean, Logan Gilbert and I had
Carl Ravich on this show at the beginning of the
season and he said that was his pick for the
American League silng Award winner, and justifiably so he's been.
But Brian Wu, he has certainly been. I mean, five
quality starts out of six, he's been nothing short of tremendous.
And so is your work on Root Sports. You and
Angie and look forward to tonight hopefully can get this
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one done and then try to make it nine consecutive
winning series before they come back, and welcome in the
Blue Jays and then Aaron Judge and the Yankees next week. Aaron,
first time, but certainly not the last time. We appreciate
you stopping by and making time there. And I would say,
enjoy Sacramento, but I'd be lying because I don't know
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if there's much to enjoy about Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, it' Torman Sonny, Okay, fair enough, and it is
the capital of California.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
It is that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But welcome.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm sure you'd be looking forward to coming back to
Paradise this fall.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Football weather.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I've been enjoying for the platte past three weeks here
in the PMW. Who's been nothing short of Mother Nature
basically shining upon us. So yeah, have a great call
tonight and we'll do it again sooner than later.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Thank you, Eron, Thank you, j Welcome to town, man,
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Very much, sir. I appreciate that. Aaron Goldsmith. Good stuff there,
very good stuff. Yeah, a lot of things unpack and
I think the end there. Oh, please Gilbert and Kirby
coming back before the end of the month. Yes, please,
let's make this happen.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, if that happens, then all of a sudden,
the Mariners can go to the next level.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And it's gonna take Kirby some time.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Because he hasn't yet right in the entire twenty twenty
five season against live bullets in the major leagues. You know,
it's this isn't you know, bullpen sessions or you know
that sort of thing. So but you get those two
guys back before the end of the month, and then
all of a sudden, you can start to maybe hopefully
separate themselves from the A's and the Astros. I'm still
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not sold on the Rangers. I think the Rangers are
They're weak. I mean, they're pitching is good. I respect
their pitching lighter to gram Evaldi Molly, but I just
think can't Like I said, my one of my favorite
quotes is from Tommy Lasaura couldn't hit water if they
fell out of a freaking boat, and he doesn't say
freaking though. Coming up next though the what do you
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say text of the day. We've already had a bunch
of them. I think I've I think today, for all
of you that might not have liked me, maybe I've
won you over today.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No souper for her, No souper for her. We'll get
to that four nine four five one.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You want to hear your text Rednecks right here on
MJ in the MIDA ninety three three kJ Rtham four
nine one on the free agent text line, So what
do you say? Text of the day before I forget.
Let me think the great Iron Eagle and also the
great Aaron Goldsmith for stopping by today. Good stuff out
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of both of them. Looking forward to it's usually tough
to be able to replicate what was last night. It's
it's tough to make lightning strike twice. But I'm talking
about the NBA playoffs, but hopefully it's great tonight.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And also the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Can I mean, that's a two game losing streak. You
gotta get this thing going now right. You got to
get back off the schneid. I'll say this, man, I'm
impressed with the A's. They are young, and they are
they look they just look like they're just one of
those teams that you know they they're just on the
come up, you know, they they could be the part
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of the future of baseball. They got a lot Solderstrom,
Mason Miller. They've just got some guys there that can
you know, they're not going to be sellar dwellers like
they have been, and once they make the move to Vegas,
they might be a hot ticket. Who knows, all right,
MJ two five three? Did she go to jail? If
so she couldn't text her phone as confiscated. If you're
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locked up on a Saturday, you go before the judge
on Monday and you release you probably with bail and
ankle breathalyzer monitor. Wonder if this whole story is made
up in a scam. Good for you for not taking
the bait. I love it, hey, fellas I was. You
know I'm right now. I'm raising as Christopher Kid.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Chris Kid. Tell the audience what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
In his right hand, he is donning a miniature Doctor
Pepper and he's holding it high.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's for you, guys and gals. I've no soup for her,
no cash for her. I'm raising as Dr Pepper for
each and every one of you.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Earlier on in the show, Mark and I talked about
the NBA playoffs and this is from the two and.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's been seventeen eighteen years of I mean, I literally
could swear right now of what they did to this city,
one of the best basketball cities in the world. And
it's just, you know, and I get it. I wasn't here.
I just got here.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Here's the one thing one host said this one time
in Atlanta, and he said, you can come into a city,
you can know every team's history like the back of
your hand, but you'll never know their pain. And I
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don't now, I don't know the pain that has been
felt by everybody here. An entire generation has been devoid
of having the most beloved franchise here in Seattle, the SuperSonics,
the team that brought the first ever world title to
this city in nineteen seventy nine. And so I don't
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know what that pain feels like. I'm trying to put
myself in ear shoes. But I've been in a bunch
of different markets. And you know, I didn't have the
NBA when I was in Tampa, just because they don't
have an NBA team, But it was only an hour
and forty five minutes down the road in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
But when I was in Atlanta, there was the Hawks.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
In Charlotte there was the Hornets and the Bobcats, and
Boston of course the Celtics and then before that Miami
with the heat. So I don't know what it's like,
and it sucks. I mean, it just sucks. From the
two h six couple of them and four two five. Yes,
she sounds like an attic. I would know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I was one.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Well, I'm glad that you were no longer and you've
been able to move on and get your life clean.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
From the four to two five. Nice move. Now block
that number pretty straightforward, yep, yep. To the point.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
From the two five to three power rankings. Two early
power rankings after the NFL Draft, Seahawks were ranked fifteenth,
middle of the road, understandable, but sixteenth yep or sixteenth?
This is from the two five to three. People are crazy.
I already put money on the Seahawks to win the
division NFC West and the over on wins for this
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season seven and a half. They are not third or
fourth team in the NFC West. That's nuts, No, I agree,
I agreed.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Listen, man, next time I go to the casino, I'm
going on the over.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
If they got those odds already.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Seahawks are gonna win more than I have the Seahawks
winning maybe ten games, get way over seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Unless this whole Sam Donald thing is a complete bust,
which that would that it won't be. But I don't
think it will be. I think it's I think Sam
Donald's gonna be. You know, is he gonna put up thirty.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Five touchdowns this year like you did in Minnesota? No,
the spoiler alert, it's not a prediction. It's just spoil alert.
It's not gonna happen. Okay, let's just stop that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Can he get twenty four touchdowns and maybe eight picks?
He does that, They run the ball, they don't turn
it over too much. This team's gonna win ten, maybe
eleven or more games. I'm telling you. I can see
it from the four to two five. That's what That's
why Pennix is gonna thrive even though he's a left hander.
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Because the dude throws the laser into an eye of
a needle. Yes, he certainly does.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
This is from the four two five San Francisco under
seven wins book.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It I agree with that. I'm all with you. I
don't get this forty nine er love. They suck like
they like they suck or they have injuries. Well, they
had injuries like Detroit, but like they had a horrible.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Offseason that their team is fine.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
They had injuries, Okay, but McCaffrey's always hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
He'll be hurt again, all right, Like, let's just see
I can't stay healthy. Okay, fair enough. Suck might have
been the wrong word on them. I just don't trust them.
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Something there with.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
The fact that you keep banging on Christian McCaffrey getting hurt,
right to have the baddest injury look probably in the NFL. Now,
I'm sure Detroit. Well I'm talking about over the last
what four or five years.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Maybe maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Missing a study time.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
McCaffrey was hurt in Carolina.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He was.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
He was Oh yeah, I thought he just had the
hamstring injury and that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
No, he was hurt, and that's one of the reasons
that they decided to trade him. And he was He
got off to that Saquon Barkley start of his career
where he was hurt and and yeah, you can go
look it up. And I used to work there and
people tell me McCaffrey was always hurt. We knew he
was a great player, but he was always hurt H MJ.
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The two thirty cutoff is impound before the cost gets
to get out of impound, if you have to get
a tow truck. I work for an impound company. So
maybe that's what the two thirty cutoff was. Maybe that's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
What do you got?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I obviously, well, what did you find out on the toe?
Are you? Are you looking at Tomio McCaffrey or the
two thirty I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Talking about the two thirty posts you just read because
when I when I when we talked about it, I said, Man,
two thirty, that's a random time.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That is a random times the time that he's giving
her to get back.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And I just didn't understand that. Yeah, that's what I
was thinking.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Maybe, like listen, I'm not saying it was a Legit
just it seemed fishy and it was I don't know,
I you know, it is what it is?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
This one is from the two five to three. He
never Julio never had to earn the contract he was given.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
M Christopher kids. Sometimes my memory is of blessing and occurs.
The last three years of this isn't a Texas is
me just talking to you? The last three years of
McCaffrey and Carolina twenty twenty three games, twenty twenty one
seven games, twenty twenty two six games. So he played
a grand total of sixteen games in three years. He
was always hurt at the end his first three years. Amazing,
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he played all sixteen games. His last three years, he
couldn't stay on the field. That's why they got rid
of him. That's why the Giants allowed Saquon Barkley to
go to Philly that he was always hurt there. Now
it ended up costing him and it costing Carolina as well.
But you know, he's gotta stay healthy. He's got I
if I could put the Seahawks like versus another team
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and fade the other team, I'm taking the Hawks over
the Niners.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I don't trust the forty nine ers. I just don't anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Something has gone foul awry in San Francisco. I don't
like it now. They asked me a question here, Chris MJ.
Do you still got okay s with gaining home court advantage?
Guess what I did, Chris? What did I do, kid,
I hedged. I was at Muckle shoot on Sunday and
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guess what I did?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You ready for this? Now?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I have more financial interest in Denver, So I need Denver, now,
I hedge. I got okay, see if they go to
the NBA Finals, and we're all fine, But all I need.
If Denver goes to the NBA Finals, all they have
to do is win the Western Conference. I win two grand.
If they win the NBA Finals, I win three grand.
So I'm all on Denver now. If the other if
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it's not Denver, I'm hoping, okay, see, because they were
the first, I'm hoping it's not Minnesota or Golden State.
So I'm not putting anything on them. But I am
all in on the Nuggets. That's a great question. From
the two five to three, so yep.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Last one for me from the two five to three.
The last player I want coming up in a clutch
situation is Julio. Enough said, And to all the Mariner
fans out there, please knock off the Julio chanting. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Well well, well, uh let me see, happy to be listening.
Glad you didn't take my advice for three hundred dollars.
Really sounds a bit fishy. Women like that give all
the good ones a bad name from like. That's from Kathleen. Yes, Kathleen,
you are a great woman. And I you know what
I uh, something was and it could have been legit,
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but it felt it just didn't the smell test, you know,
two o six. At least that date wasn't last Saturday.
Can't get buzzed on fifteen cokes and diet cokes. Oh,
nice to meet you. And she was a sweetie. It's
from John John at Nolita. That's right, See that, folks.
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I had fifteen cokes and she had a bunch of
diet cokes.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I did have one glass of red wine.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
One but I can trust trust me when I tell you,
after that great meal at Nolita, after one glass of wine,
I was okay to get behind the wheel. I would
never jeopardize my life or the life of any others
throughout King County, Seattle and the PNW.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Nice to meet you too, John. One more thing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Uh, I'm not gonna say anything bad about Aaron Goldsmith.
He was fine, So don't don't try to don't go
to me. I'm gonna mention this again. From the two
five three. We need to sacrifice a live chicken to
get Julio to lay off the breaking ball. I just
want him to not take the first pitch. Can he
take a first pitch? For crying out loud? Please, I'm
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just begging you, all right, that's it. I appreciate everybody
who texted in the what do you say? Texts of
the day. Oh, I gotta get one more in, Chris,
because this one, this one, and this could be the
what do you say the text of the day.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So Seattle sawt criticism on the superstars that are making
two hundred plus million to be that superstar embarrassing. In
any other market, he'd be ripped a f N men
to that AFN men.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
If Julio was.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
In playing for the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox Phillies, he'd
be getting villified and crucified every single day on ninety
eight five the sports Hub, WFA N or w IP
Believe you me, I'm the one. I hear you fans,
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and I'm the one going in with the criticism. And
every time he has an O fer, I'm gonna say,
Julio for three, Holly oh for four, I'm gonna be
doing that every time he has an O for like
he did last night. Thanks again for texting final sayment
crosstalk with the Mayor next God the Mayor and I
(32:42):
thanks again Aaron Goldsmith and Iron Eagle. The Mayor and
I were just talking about I got a buddy of
mine up in New York because he's a Mets fan
and a Knicks fan, so we're obviously exchanging texts on
the Knicks last night. Oh by the way, oh my
Islanders just got the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I'm like, yeah, I don't give a bleep.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
And I'm like, so, I asked Ian, being the hockey guy,
how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
New York?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, the name, I mean, it's y. I don't
think the Rangers. I I'll be honest with you. I
didn't pay too much attention to the lottery this year.
And listen, yeah, I work for him. I hope they
got the number one pick. Cracking that is this is
a year it didn't matter. It didn't matter, No, it
didn't matter. I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
There's no McDavid.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, there will be all stars in there, like
there aren't every draft for every sport, but not a transformer,
but not a guy that's just an unquestioned number one.
I mean the Schaefer kid is a defenseman. Sure, yeah, maybe,
I mean I don't know. It's there's but there's yeah,
there's not that one. Like you gotta win it because
Connor McDavid's there, you gotta win it. You mentioned Anthony
Davis back in the day within with them with the
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Charlotte team, Like, there's not that guy necessarily that, So
it's it's you know, those are the funny things with
lotteries like well, you know, like even this year in
the NFL draft, I mean, cam Ward was number one,
but there's a lot of year. I mean Tennessee needed
a quarterback. It was a perfect fit. Right, Sure, what
if it's somebody else that doesn't need a quarterback, he
wouldn't have been number one. The no, there was no
unquestioned number one. It was number one because of a need.
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And you know, but certain drafts have that certain drafts
on I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Glad Lebron had brought up that the NBA draft lotteries
rigged because we all knew it was going back to
the days of the frozen envelope with Patrick Ewing in
nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We know that, but I will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So Lebron does the decision in July twenty ten, and
Cleveland is decimated. They got nothing. The following year, they
get the number one pick, and they earned it. They
were the worst team in the NBA. They got Kyrie Irving.
The next year they get the number one pick, and
it was like Tristan Thompson. Then the next year they
get the number one pick and he was a bust
in Anthony Bennett then and then they then the following
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year they get the number one pick and he was good,
great Andrew Wiggins, and then they traded him for Kevin
Love to win a title. But for three out of
four years they had the first or the second pick
in the draft.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It's all rigged.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
It always does feel though, although as we talk about
it being rigged, would it be better if the NFL
did it?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
No? No, no, would it I don't think so. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I mean, I I don't know if there's true tanking
in the NFL. But there's teams that are done right,
Like there's teams that are playing you know, Tommy DeVito
at quarterback or whatever right. I mean, like when you
get to December, there's teams that are done.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
How about the Patriots, where like they had hired one
of the worst coaches in NFL history, they fired after
one Yeard Mail.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
And he beats Buffalo which cost.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Him one three and three.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's right, Yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Guy could be a bust short arms with Campbell. Yeah,
I mean that's what I Travis Hunter, actual car and
the Menders did that. They they beat I want to
say it was the A's back when Steven Strasburg was
coming out and all they had to do was lose
another series. I think it was the A's that beat him,
I believe. But they won two of their final three
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games and didn't get strawsper.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Are you kidding me? Wow?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
So that you know, so there's a case of a
team not tanking right, but you should have but you
should you should have laid down?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Should should have? Lad What do we got coming up on? Buddy?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Joe Shean talking baseball won twenty today and then uh
we talked to John London too. One of the things
about so this is the first not last time, was
the first night that I watched a game from Sacramento
like a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
What a joke. Yeah, it's a joke.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What an app By the way, the Ras are playing
the Yankee spring training in Tampa, but.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
That's because they have to, Yeah, because a hurricane. There's
no hurricane in Oakland. It was it was just well,
it was it was.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
That was that.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I'll get some thoughts on Baseball's got a lot of issues,
and I think if you just want to kind of
you like, what's a what's a good illustration of what's
wrong with baseball?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It's what's that? It's that at one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, and one more thing I like, if you have
time to ask Sean Lund is that did the Warriors
have another one?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And up? Can they get by the Young Lion? The
Young Lion? That a man, you know, a man he
came to the league.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
When he listened he came to the league, he said
he wanted to beat Durant. Did it last year in
the first round. He wanted to beat Lebron did it
this year in the first round. But when he came
to the league, he was drafted. He said he wants
to beat the Warriors because he wants to shut up
Draymond Green.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Chance there now he's got Chan. I don't care about that.
I just care about Oklahoma City losing. So good night.
Oh there you go, big.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Thanks Anthony Gordon, Thank you, buddy, Aaron.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
A G baby a G.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
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Stay tuned next for the Mayor, Maple Valley and Furness
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