May 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Who is clutch, who isn't clutch, how do we weigh someones greatness within being clutch, are they separate.. We hit the text line and read back messsages from listeners, and we close the show w/ Gregg Bell as he shares what he has planned filling in for Ian Furness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toughness. Remember that term mental toughness examples. A game winning
shot in the final seconds of a basketball game, a
clutch it in baseball, or a crucial goal in soccer
are all examples of clutch plays. Okay, the contrasting term,
the antonym, if you will, of clutch, is choke, which
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describes a player who fails to perform well under pressure.
Now what are we talking about here? Who are we
talking about here? In the current state of the sports
world that we are in right now, there is no
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one more clutch in sports than Jalen Brunson. That to me,
he's not even opinion, that's a fact. He just won
the clutch Player of the Year in the NBA. And
so then I started thinking, well, who else is clutch
and around in other sports? Who is truly clutch? Right now,
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Let's go to the NFL Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes's clutch wasn't
against the Eagles, but I would say that, yeah, I
would go with Mahomes. You could even argue Mahomes is
over Brunson because he's won three titles and Brunson's won zero.
So I don't have a problem with that. He's also
lost in those situations as well, and more recently so
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in terms of if we're gonna go recency bias, and
I hate that phrase, then I'd have to go with
Jaylen Brunson all time. I mean huts, I mean his
middle name. Both of these guys' middle names, aside from Goat,
should be clutch Tom Brady. Michael Jordan Enough said, don't
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even have to go anywhere, Tom Brady. Seven super Bowls
could have been more, but seven will never even come
close to being clutch. Now, can you be great and
not be clutch? Yes, you can. Lebron James to me,
he's great, but I've watched him in too many situations
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throughout his career. In particular, well, he's lost back to
back first round so that was not clutch in the
last couple of years. But I'm gonna go back to
prime Lebron. I'm gonna go back to the Let me
take my talents to South Beach. Lebron James twenty thirteen
NBA Finals, Game six. Spurs are up by five with
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about twenty six seconds left. He cut it to three.
Spurs missus shot he'd get the ball back Spolstra. They
run a play for Lebron He has the three pointer
right there, not at directly at the fifty yard line
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of the three point line, but a little bit to
the left there. He bricks it. Greg Popovich, the NBA
winning his coach of all time, he pulls Tim Duncan
out of the game for some stupid unknown reason which
I'll never know, and Chris Bosh grabs the rebound. What
does Bosh do? He looks in the corner at the
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guy who was the greatest shooter in NBA history before
Steph Curry, Ray Allen and Jesus Shuttlesworth hits a three
pointer ties the game goes to overtime. He win an overtime.
When they had the yellow tape up, they were about
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to celebrate an NBA title. Talk about the Spurs here.
It was all set up. They were getting ready to
confetti and they blew a five or six point lead
with twenty seven seconds left in the game. Ray Allen clutch,
Who's also great, But who's clutch? Kobe? Kobe's clutch, but
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also there were times where he wasn't was it a clutch?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
When Lebron hit that three to make it a two
point game, which which one in the same game you're
talking about with this Spurs. He hit a three so
they could be with them two. Then he missed the
other three, and then they got the rebound. But he
hit he missed the first three that they drew up
out of an at o. He missed that one. They
got the Offen three rebound and threw it back to Lebron.
He nailed it to make it ninety four ninety two.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Did you just look this up?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay? And then but they were down by three when
ray Allen hit that shot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Because they mist because Kawhi went to the free throw
line and missed a free throw, and then they drew
it up for Lebron.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He missed, And did Kahi missed a freaking free throw?
Did he really arging nobly by the way, one of
the two right when a.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Lebron was clutching that moment, But overall he's in that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, And he was clutched in the two thousand and
nine Orlando, Yeah, he was there. I covered that. I
covered that, But he was clutching the game there. He
hit a three. Did just not look Jason Tatum World
Champion last year, Best player on the best team in
the league, Best Player last year, no doubt about it.
The antithesis of clutch, the absolute like the last I
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just told you, I gave you six guys in the
Celtics right now, I'd have to take a shot before him.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I think you would have Jason Tatum shoot it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No. No, if I was Joe Missoula and well you,
he'd probably be mad at you. I would draw up
a play for Derek White number one. I think she
is clutch. That guy, now, granted, is gonna be the
Hall of Fame. No, he was on the Olympic team though,
he's clutch. Who, Like, if you think about clutch players
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in the history of let's go with the Seahawks for
a second. Let's just think about that. Who's a clutch
player in Seahawks history that you can you know that
if the game was on the line, And a lot
of people might not agree with me on this, but
Russ was clutch at times. Is he not against Green
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Bay at that playoff game? That would right? He definitely
made right. Okay, So I mean people, and I understand
there's still because you know, Russ wanted out. It didn't
end well here and he forced the trade and all
that stuff, And I get it. Russ was clutch. He was.
I'm not saying he's the most clutch player in Seahawks history.
He was clutch.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You don't think Lebron is clutch at all, or you
think I'm just trying to figure out where.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He not not to win a title, Not to win
a title, not when when if the game is on
the line and you have one shot to win a title.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, I put it in his hands because he's gonna
make the best decision.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Now, he could do that. That that but like in
Game seven of the twenty sixteen finals, he knew to
get it to Kyrie without a question. I mean he knew.
So that part fine, I'm talking about just taking the shot.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I would put him in that he's made. I mean
against Toronto to go up three to zero, that was huge.
Fading away going to the left, jumped off his left foot,
fading way hit a banker.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That was huge. There was another he had.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
A I'm talking about like, all right, here's I mean,
it's I don't know, four playoff eliminations is a top
three seed? I mean I could go through right right?
All right? Fair, But but I'm talking about like guys
who have who can come through like this guy. You know,
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prior to Tom Brady, the goat was Joe Montana best
in the bat he was undefeating the Super Bowls. And
when four of them, I say, only still the second most, right,
the's still saying only one four when everything say that,
I know, well, I mean, but you know, hey, listen,
you know there's a chance Patrick Mahomes may never get
to number four. I doubt it. I doubt he won't.
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Like I'm what I'm saying is that I'm sure he will,
but there's a chance he might not get to number four.
You know one guy I got to say, who's not clutch,
and I like this guy a lot. Lamar Jackson has
improved it in the biggest situations when you need it.
Can't get to a Super Bowl. Listen, he did prove it.
He just now no, no, no. This year was on
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Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Last year was on Flowers that fumbled the football. Yeah,
he's had I think three seasons where he put the
ball in his guy's hands and they don't deliver.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That shouldn't fall on him being clutched because.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He was You're done. Yeah, when you're the is Josh
Allen clutch? I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, I don't think we've seen enough yet.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Well, but Josh Allen came the league with Lamar Jackson
and and I think we've seen enough. If we're gonna
judge Lamar, we need to judge Josh Allen. Fine, and
Josh Allen is not clutch. I don't think they go
back and look at somebody. Well, you just here's the thing.
They've had multiple chances to go to the super Bowl
and they they could not get it done. Now, one
time I will say that the coin toss costs them,
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you know, and they changed the rule. But every time
you think Buffalo's gonna take that next step, and they
did they not.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Gets hard to judge auarterback on their clutches, though, because
they need everything around him, unless you're Mahomes or Brady.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But hey, listen, it's like being the league singer of
the band Bro. You get all the credit and if
you have a bad show, you get all the blame.
It comes with it. It comes with it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But what I'm saying, my point is that would say
a receiver could be more clutch than a quarterback in
that snow because they have to.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No, the quarterback sets up the receiver. He has to
be clutch.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But you only have two jobs for a receiver. You
got to get over and catch the football. If you
can't catch Oh no, I'm not saying receivers can't be clutched.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm just saying that. I think it's just tough to
You can't catch the ball if you don't have the
right quarterback throwing to you. Right, I mean, but that
Johnson did that his whole career. But but yeah, me
and you throw them the full Yeah you mean Andre Johnson? Andre,
I'm like, who's a o Andre Johnson? Could you imagine
if he played because at the end of his career
he signed with the Colts and I don't even think
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Peyton was still there or he was really washed at
that point. Could you imagine if Andre Johnson had played
with Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, that's my point, Like that, right, he is clutch
every game because he got me and you thrown him
football despite go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
No, no, no, you're right, No, keep going, keep on.
I'm gonna give you example of two of the greatest
receivers of all time. One is better than the other,
but the other was in clutch. Randy Moss, our second
greatest receiver in NFL history, was not clutch and any
Now did he catch a touchdown against the Giants at
the end of Super Bowl forty two before they then
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eighteen and oh team lost? Yes? How about the Super
Bowl against the Ravens when he was at the forty
nine ers he got alligator arms. He was just never clutch. Meanwhile,
Michael Irvin don't have the numbers Randy Moss had, But
Michael Irvin his biggest games, his biggest plays were in
the biggest games, on the biggest stages clutch. So now
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both are great. One was clutch, one was not. They're
both Hall of famers, but it's something different. It's rare
for an athlete to be clutch in both being great
and have the clutch word with you. It's rare to
have both of Steph Curry, I mean yes, on both
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great and clutch, there's no doubt. And then who knows,
maybe he has another one left in him, another ring
left in him. I don't know. I don't think it's
gonna be this year, but you never know. Clutch. I
think Jokich is clutch and he's great, and I think
the best is yet to come. Paul George No. Kawhi
absolutely in the biggest stage when the Spurs needed to
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win a title, they rode the coattails of Kawhi Leonard.
When the Raptors the Raptors, but they had some good players.
Siakam Og, who was just coming into the league was
a little bit, you know, a little you have a
young player at the time. But Kawhi Leonard single handedly
led the Toronto Raptors to a title, which is something
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that the hockey team has not done in over sixty
years in that city. So I like the athletes that
like to me when I when we look at a
guy like Jalen Brunson right now, it's like last night
he was horrible. But guess what when they needed to
take the lead. I'm talking about the Knicks, he came
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up clutch money. Absolutely, he hit the shot the three
to give the Knicks their first lead of the game.
I'm always looking for guys. Magic Johnson was clutch. I
mean we could go down. The Larry Bird was amazing.
Pat Riley had one of the greatest quotes of all
time and he said, if I want to win a title,
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I'm gonna give the ball to Michael. If it's one
shot to win a title, I'm gonna give the ball
to Michael Jordan. If it's one shot to save my life,
I'm gonna give the ball to Larry Bird. I was like,
whoa wow, Like and he's even putting Bird above Jordan
and that, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't disagree
with that. I think that that's you know, Patrick Ewing
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not clutch. Just he wasn't in big game situations. He choked.
He just did and just I mean, you know, he
just I saw it. I watched it, you know, and
missing a point blank bunny lay in against the Pacers
and just never could come up big having a three
to two league, you know. So there's a fine line. Listen,
Ken Griffy Junior amazing player. Was he clutch? I I
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what are you give me the postseason moments in Junior's
career that that you can because I can't think of
any of big postseason moments in KEG. Griffy Junior's career
other than the win against the Yankees in ninety five.
Other than that, When did he come up big in
the postseason? He didn't, He never did. And that was
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more Edgar, like Edgar was the one who came up
big there, it wasn't you know, like, so you can
be great to get that clutch word anonymous with great,
it's tough to do. It's tough to do. Listen. I
think we go down the list of great quarterbacks in
the NFL right now, justin Herbert borderline, very good, could
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possibly great, not clutch and win anything. You know, he
gets the playoffs, he gets nothing. Matter of fact, people
in LA right now are questioning like if this guy
was the right guy, and you know so it's a
fine line.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So we're doing playoffs only or playoffs.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well that the whole thing is to win a title,
So you're only defined to me like you could be
great in the regular seasons. Boston Celtics were four and
oh against the Knicks in the regular season. They're owing
two in the playoffs. So all I care about is
the postseason MVP awards. All that crap don't mean jack
ish when you get to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But isn't that so the clutch Award for Jale isn't
that a regular season award though? Or is that a
postseason the ward because he ain't.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But he's been clutching the postseason for the Knicks, he
has been Oh, I know, right, right, but no, if
that this year was a regular season award, but it's
a first I think that the one of the first
ones they get. But he hasn't done it. He doesn't
want anything. No, he hasn't, true, but he comes up
big against the Pistons, he hit the game winning shot.
He did it against the Celtics in Game one.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know, even ten years, if they don't win a
title at all, will he still be clutching your eyes
considering he has zero titles, but he's clutching playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's a great question. I would have to say.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I could give you like eight Lebron moments in the
playoff where he's clutch and maybe a team didn't win
at all.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I shouldn't take away from it. Lebron did win
titles though, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Think that's fair for Jalen though, because yeah, it's he's
still hitting big shots. He can't play, he can't do everything.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, no, and by the way, he doesn't need to
do everything because he's got a pretty good team around
him as well. I think, you know, I think if
you're clutch or clutch.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm great, sure, yeah, but I think Lebron crosses off
both because he has like fifteen game winning shots and
half of them are playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Did he do any in the finals? How many of
the finals in the NBA finals?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't think he has any of the finals?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, I mean that's to me, is where it kind
of now? I will say this the one thing I
will give you. Will he make Will he get it
to Kyrie? Will he you know, find a way to
put you know, the team in a Lebron James is
one of the great, if not the greatest passer this
side of Magic Johnson the history of the NBA. If
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he wanted to just be a point guard, he could
have been a point card if he wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
How many the steph have in the finals? What game winners?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
One or two? How many have the Warriors been able?
Were they the one without him? Like, here's my and
here's my thing on Lebron. They won first of all,
don't even like, like Charles Barkley said, the Mickey Mouse
title doesn't count. We don't count empty gyms in Orlando.
That's the worst title. Same thing with the Dodgers with
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cardboard cutouts at the ballpark at Arlington. In the World Series,
we throw those titles out. He didn't, he lost, He
didn't win the title in twenty thirteen because of him,
he wanted because of Ray Allen. Ray Allen saved bailed
them out, plain and simple.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Just as you could say Michael Jordan was built up by.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Steve Okay, and just as you could say that Lebron
came up short in twenty eleven against Dallas, Okay, twenty
fourteen against San Antonio, twenty seventeen against Clutch though, but
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. But he's the leader, he's the
best player on the team. You gotta be Clutch.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But I'm thinking, I'm thinking of shows you're talking about
Steph Curry.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You asked about Steph Curry twenty twenty two, Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So he has two or one?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, he won the finals MVP. I listen, I know,
but Lebron has four VP. Okay, but no, But I'm
saying that you.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Confused on what you're trying to quantify for Clutch because
you're pointing out series right, and then the same.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You can be a finals MVP and not be clutch.
I mean, you know, I'm just gonna figure out. Shaunce
Bellips won a Finals MVP. Was he clutch? I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Big shot Billups, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, it was more well Robert Ory was clutch, yes,
right right? Was he great? No? But he was clutched.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
We know Lebron's great, and we know he's probably I.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Don't have listen, I've gone through this. There are one
hundred players in NBA history to win a Finals. I
would take over Lebron James. We don't have enough time
in the show to go through them. I would take
a hundred players in the history of the NBA. I
could tell you I would take Gary Peyton, Dale Ellis,
I would go through. I could take.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Ten shooter Gary or Lebron.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Well, Gary Payton was a point guard. I would I
would take Gary Payton. At the end of it, I
would take Peyton over Lebron. Shooting was yeah, I would
take Dale Ellis over Lebron James to shoot Lebron's a
Lebron James is not a good three point shooter, and
he's never been in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think he might be better percentage wise than both
not Dale but Gary, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, I would put money on that. Well, I mean,
that's fine, but I wouldn't. I would take at least
I one hundred guys.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I don't think you can get to ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I did this one time on the show, and I
went through all of and by the way, was easy.
It was easy to do. I went through the current,
I went through former, I.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Through you really hate Lebron?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Go, oh no, there's yeah, no, there're guys like Lebron.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I can't get a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I'll talking about to win a game seven down by two,
you have three seconds to inbounds the ball. Who are
you picking to take the shot?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, Lebron's probably top fifty.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He's not so now you're going to fit all but you,
I mean, he's that slow for you. I believe he's clutched.
But you had top fifties. Not for the one of
the greatest players of all time. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I know his bag is not, but at least you
say you said, I know his bag is not to score,
but I would go I have.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
A hot I could go through the list comprehensively of
one hundred players.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That Gary Payton wants to know. For me, I'm giving
it to Lebron.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm sorry, all right, fair enough, and you lose, so
I don't know any how many games when he says, Gary, hey,
I will listen. I comparison to the but he he
won a title. Lebron got four titles. I know, I know,
but he did. No, I get it, But Gary Payton did.
And listen, he was this side of Magic Johnson, Isaiah
Thomas maybe the third best point guard I've ever seen
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in my life. Because I don't count Steph Curry as
a point guard. I count him as an off guard.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
He's a He's a Steph guard.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right, He's in his own category, his own exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He's not of this world. So all right, So what
do you say?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Text of the day coming up next four nine four
five one is, uh, we just gave you a lot
to there. And if you like to join, if you
like to just tell me who you think is the
most clutch player in Seahawks history. I'd like to know.
There hasn't been who's been the most clutch player in
Mariner's history. I can't really say because they haven't been
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in a world series. No, I'm seriously, I'm not trying
to say that, but like, you know, come on, yeah,
I'm just just trying. I'm just telling you. They haven't
they haven't done. Each row wasn't clutch, he wasn't not here.
Yeah the sound of yeah, I just yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I you know, it just is what it is. Oh,
Lebron chased down block, please, I mean that's what Okay,
fair enough? Who hit the game winning shot? Kyrie? But
find the.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Blog doesn't happen. We're not having the shot Kyle.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
AT's eleya Kyrie Kyrie? Fair enough, but it was Kyrie
who won that game. All right, We'll get to what
you say. Textaday coming up next right here on MJ
in the midday. Oh. By the way, I got numbers.
I got numbers. I got numbers. That's why I always
keep notes. You gotta keep notes. Can't remember everything. But uh,
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four consecutive NBA finals four from twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, actually five in twenty fifteen and
fourth quarters of NBA finals, Lebron James completely choked in
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those final they one two, but in the fourth quarter
of those finals for five years from twenty eleven to
twenty fifteen, in the fourth quarter, came up nowhere zero.
Dick Fane. By the way, I'm glad Dick is Dick.
Dick's texting me during the break. Good to see Dick's
back from one of his thirty six weeks of vacation.
Welcome back, Dick. I'm glad you're back for today. Glad
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you're gonna be on your show today for the first time.
But I can't wait till I get to the thirty
six weeks vacation that you get every year. All right,
let's go here. Griffy wasn't in the playoffs offen, but
but he was when he raked. He hit five bombs
against the Yankees, scored the winning run on Eggar's double.
Griffy was Hella clutch. How about after though? He played
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for the Mayor and the majority of his career, and
then he went to Cincinnati got injured. Harley was ever
in the playoffs, not his fault, but when he did
play in the postseason, was a stud. But there wasn't
a big sample size, And did you you didn't get
to the World Series. So like those games, you have
to eventually, you have to eventually advance in your career.
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He was he was hurting Cincinnati. So is what it is?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
From our guy Ben the two O six Edgar Martinez
was the most clutch player in Mariner's history because his
double one men expensive rack of German.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Bayer beer from a smart What is that beer?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Beer? Oh? B I e R Yeah? Spell it differently over?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Why couldn't he just spell it the right way? Because
I'm wondering. Okay, yeah, nose bear. Okay, he got some beer,
So Ben, shout out, Ego Martinez came up clutch because
you got some.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
He got some something to drink. I get you.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yep. Uh, let's see to here we go. Griffy hit
two ninety six home runs, eleven RBIs and twelve runs
scored in eighteen games in his postseason career. Again, you
have to eventually get to a World Series. You have
to get there. Is Mike Trout clutch? I don't even
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I can't even remember. If you blinked, you missed Mike
Trout in the playoffs. I think he was in once,
maybe twice, maybe one one series. I don't even remember.
I don't even Mike Trout, Like I can tell you
who was clutch in his career. Bryce Harper, Bryce Harper
was really clutch. Juan Soto when he was with the
Nats was pretty clutch. I can tell you that much, MJ.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Or Mark, you'll appreciate this from the three six So
here lebron list of more clutch players most likely is
as long as Chris Jericho's list of holds.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yes, that's funny. I like I always love with the
wrestling references. I love it. Yeah, let's see here, all right,
Jesus Mark, I don't like Lebron either, but damn settle down,
bro loll.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
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on the female hustler a second date inbound.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know what, I will tell you something. She needed
to she got her car out of the pound. She
needed to get out. It was completely totally legit, and
there could be yes, there there could be a sequel
happening very soon. Yes, we're we're gonna have to wait
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for tomorrow to get a better Well not tomorrow, how
about Monday or like then, end the weekend happens, right right?
All right, how about the weekend happens. But I'll tell
you what kind of feel bad right now? Because it
was all legit and she ended up getting and getting
her car out. She's she's not asking any money for duy,
she just needed to get her car out. Now I
feel bad, I will tell you, but I didn't know,
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like you know, you you don't meet someone once and
you're giving them three hundred dollars, like, hey, come on.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Then well, according to her, it went from I need three.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Hund right right, you know that? Oh no, two, study two,
but give it to me by two thirty. And then
I didn't know. Then a towing guy he was like, uh, yeah,
we towing impound. Man. I'll tell you what those towing
impound You leave that in there a long time. Eventually
they're gonna own your car. Yeah, really own your car.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This next one is from two oh six. They did
some googling because I wasn't sure if Gary Payton had
a game winner. I'm sure he has, but Gary Payton
absolutely hit a game winner in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Probably against the Bulls, because it wasn't with the heat.
When he was with the heat, he was more of
like as old yeah out there. Yeah, I mean he
was great. Listen. They I think games three and four,
or may have been four and five that the GP
came up big. I tell you what his his son
looks pretty clutch every now and then GP Jr. Clutch
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out what, Well, he hits some shots here and there
like the regular season, and I've seen him hit some
shots in the postseason here and there. Not winners, but
he's like, his son's the decent player. He's not Bronny.
We're not compared. Okay, I just say his son deserves
this sounds like legit, man, I mean, it's obviously you're
(27:02):
on a you got Steph, you got padjem Ski, You've
got you know.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He fits in perfectly what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I agree, I like it. So let's see here. If
this seemingly endless conversation they went to the Saint Trees together,
he went to where we went to the same middle
school he went to He went to the same Yeah,
so he was two years younger than me.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Nice he was, he was, he was finding a character
back then. I don't even know if he will remember me,
that's how long.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Ago it was. Wow. If this seemingly endless conversation of
the concept of clutch is parody, well done, clutches clutch already,
then well, no, you gotta define it. We always there's
always there's always more.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
From the two o six most clutch Seahawk, Russell Wilson, countless,
backbreaking scrambles, comebacks. It's what made him special. One a
wide receiver, Jermaine Curse one b Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So you have Russell Wilson one this person did yes,
all right, all right, let's see here, you guys are whack.
Lamar is overrated. Ask any national report of Lamar's throating
Andrews his way off. Lamar's not clutch, he hasn't won bleep,
he has a one bleep. But that catch was right
in his hands, man, I mean it was right there.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It wasn't a perfect pass, but my.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Oh no, no, no, for Mark Andrews a perennial all
prought that. I'm just having, Like, right, if you're looking
for a perfect pass.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It was not perfect, But Mark is catching that ten
times out of ten, falling into the end zone winning it?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
All right?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Am I wrong for that?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What's up? You're making that catch? It's it's right. I mean, oh,
there's no excuses. And by the way, he felt bad
and Lamar felt bad for him.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Absolutely, yeah. His next one is from the two five
to three.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'll take bast Mode over just about anybody in Seahawks
history to be my clutch guy. I love the heart
and sure will power of that guy.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, oh, I don't have a problem with that either.
He was clutch and he was on you know, the
the winning the only franchise that you know, Vince Lombardi
winning team in franchise history. So yeah, there's no doubt
about it. According to let me see going to be
epic MJ. Rant oh Ben from two oh six, Dan
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Marino Hall of Fame, NFL Records historic quickest release. Can
he be clutched? Don't know, he never was really tested.
Lost Super Bowl in his second season, but that was
because of a bad defense. But then there were he
had like a eighteen year career that he was not clutch.
I mean, and by the way, neither was Lway until
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his last couple of years. Oh wait, you know always
now they're saying Gary Payton hit one against the Mavericks
in two thousand and six. Boy, I don't remember that,
and I covered that finals, I really did. He wow,
So you know, google necessary was against Dallas and so
it must have been with the heat when they beat
the Maps that year in o six championship. Yeah, yeah,
that was they rode the co tails of Dwayne Waye.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
There this next one, oh just lost it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, I hate when that happens.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Don't know you poopy scoop. Oh here it is from
the four two five. Theve flop is a fraud and
MJ is right. He is not clutch. In fact, he
is anti clutch.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
All right, there you go, m and oh and then
he said in two five to three, this is about
Lamar and he fumble. G t fo h with Lamar,
he's trash. Never in the playoffs. Now he hasn't do
it in.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
The hang on, sorry to cut you off. Went that fumble?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Are you talking the same playoff game from this season
or years ago?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think it was this season.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well, he fumbled, let his team back and then we
all know what happened. So technically he's clutch, and that's
scenario one thousand clutch. He fumbled, they were down and
then he brought him.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh listen, they should have won that game and faced
the Chiefs and oh they did. No one's going to
bluffo Buffalo. They lost, right, so they should have definitely
won that game. So hey, thanks kid, out of boy,
Mark Kope, fine, true love, my man, have a great day, gentleman.
From the two, it's like, so that's a nice well wish.
You don't really get those Travis right, Hey, hey, hey
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for three Hey, Mark, I just got a DUI can
you send me three hundred dollars? Sure? What's your venmo? Yeah,
I'll be right on over that. Don't hold your breath. Uh.
Wilson is not clutch. He threw three picks to put
us in that hole for that Green Bay playoff game,
and he wasn't clutching the second Super Bowl for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Someone I think the same text for that said Gary
Payton game winner against the MAVs. They just sent us
the YouTube video, so i'll see you go ahead and
drop it in then you can see the shot that
he hit.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Wow. Yeah. I think Hugh said there were more issues
with Lamar's timing on that throw than the catch itself.
That being said, he need listen. Andrews cost him the game,
cost him a shot at going to Kansas City and
possibly beating the Chiefs. And I think they could have
beaten the Chiefs possibly. I'm not saying they would have,
but they could have. They got Derrick Henry and they
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got that. You know they well, Lamar Jackson, man, you
always have. I would have loved to see Lamar versus
Mahomes in the AFC Championship game. All right, appreciate it.
What do you say? Texts of the day, everybody? That
was really good? And you know what, man, we get
a lot of ones. I wish I could read on
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the air. I wish I could, but we can't. Someone
just wanted to say, most clutch ever was Steve Largin
of a seahawk of all time. I have no issue
with that what soever. All right, and let me get
one more, every person that knows football, the throw to
Andrews was terrible. The cat should have been made, no pressure,
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Andrews wide open. He didn't miss him. He had it
in his hands. What do you mean he missed them?
What part of like he put it in his freaking hands?
I mean, come on, guys, like we did, we must
be what. You know, what's amazing? They said? This is
why art. You can sell a painting for a million
of dollars, because one person could look at that painting
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and think it's trash, and the other person can look
at that painting and think it's treasure and that's but
there was no doubt Lamar Jackson put that ball in
Mark Andrews. I don't need Hugh millin psychoanalysis to tell
me I watched. I saw it over and over. Okay,
all right, I don't need all twenty two on this one. There, sweethearts,
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Oh Jesus, Mark Andrews was Bill Buckner, and believe me,
in Baltimore they were calling him Mark Buckner because he
dropped the freaking ball. Lamar was not at fault there.
This is a guy that won two and probably like
Jokich who has won three MVPs, should win four. Lamar
should have probably won three straight MVPs. Let's be real.
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Andrews dropped the ball. And Andrews admitted afterwards and apologized
to the fans of Baltimore and his teammates. He's a
class act. He's a great tight end. He lost the game.
Oh man, you guys, get me going on a ransom
kind of whinding down and getting ready to talk to
Greg bell Is gonna be in here and for Ian
today like oh man, oh man, even oh this, okay,
(34:11):
you're sometimes Chris, you just got to say, I give up.
I give up. All right, Greg Bell coming up next,
crosstalk right here on MJ in the midday. All right,
thanks again to Mike Sando for joining us earlier today.
One thing I have to give kras do this man,
he did deliver on his promise Paul Pierce. He apparently
walked in to work today all the way twenty miles
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or something to that effect. He put on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah he did, he did. He saw cag and Cagie
says stay safe.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Greg Bell in today for the mayor of Maple Valley
in Ferness West Points. Finest son is just graduated from
wazoos a koog. So congrats to your son on that.
Thanks mat Hey. How the rookies for what Chris? Yeah,
ag Hey, from the cookies at Mini camp and everything
that you've heard, What have you heard that it's stood
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out to you or that you've seen that stood out
to you so far?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Well, I'm going to talk about it. I wrote about
it in the News Tribune. Mark the virtual reality systems
that they are trying on Jalen Milroe, the Alabama quarterback
who they are basically trying to give him the the
Jaden Daniels treatment from last year and from LSU. They're
going to strap a VR headset on him and they're
going to speed up the game and go at one
point seventy five times the speed of the regular game
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between games and between practices to get his mind acclimated
to an NFL game speed. It's fascinating to me that
more teams aren't doing this already, but I think every
football team down the pee wee.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Oh, well, you know, it's a comedy. Everyone's going to
be doing it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
We saw what happened with Jayden Daniels I wrote about
in the story it's at the Newstribute dot com. But
before he was an Arizona State quarterback who has many
interceptions as touchdown passes. His last year at a issue,
he transfers to LSU. LSU Sports Performance staff finds a
two German entrepreneurs starting a VR company. They wanted to
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do it for European soccer players, but the company wasn't
really taken off yet. They come to the United States
and they make a pitch to LSU about this. They'll
try it in the football team, and their first case
was Jaden Daniels and between games in the middle of
that twenty twenty three season, they strapped a VR headset
on him, sped the game up one point seven five
times of speedy game.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Between actual games in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Week three of the SEC season. You can look up
this September twenty six, twenty twenty three. He is game
at Mississippi State thirty for thirty six, four hundred total yards,
four total touchdowns. They won forty one to fourteen on
the road a Mississippi State, and he's never stopped using
it since he won the Heisman Trophy with it. When
the Commanders drafted him, Mark, one of the conditions was
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that you are bringing this VR system with me.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
What do the Commanders do?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
They go to the NFC title game for the first
time in thirty three years and he wins Offensive Rookie
of the Year.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Greg, How did let me just ask you this. There
seems so much to be going on with a quarterback
in a game. How does your brain be able to
process doing v R while the defense is on the field? Yeah?
I mean, how's that happened?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
The idea is that you've sped up throughout the week
without any taking mental physical reps by the way nowhere
and tear the physical reps. But the idea is that
you sped up yourself in reading the defenses all week
so that in the game it's slow and you can
anticipate the plays. You can anticipate the coverages, the disguises,
the blitzes, and at a speed that is, like I said,
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one and a half one in three quarters times slower
than you've been training all week.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Well, like, I was just impressed that he did it.
Now you're telling me he did doing during a lot
of games, and he did during the NFL last year too, well,
not in the games themselves. He trained his mind. I
gotcha games, so right right, So exactly, if you could
think of one, two, three, or just maybe one most
clutch player in Seahawks history that you can think of,
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well you gotta go to the postseason, right, Russell Wilson,
Thank you, thank you. And now now it's validating with
Greg Bell says it. Thank you, Greg, Well, I mean
why not? I mean, but I would say another one
that gets overlooked Jermaine Curse. People forget that Jermaine Curse
should have won a second consecutive Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
On his own, I know with that catch. So those
are the two to me. All right, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Man, fair enough, I will, I you know, selfishly prime blades. Yeah,
games quite as much. Well yeah, but I looked up
his numbers. He had like four or five one thousand
receiving yard seasons.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
He was all eleven years here, yes, like eighty nine.
But some dark age is unfortunately, or some mediocre ages.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Someright, Greg Bell, what do you got? Coming up?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
With Carbin Smith at two o'clock to talk about rookie
Mini Campis from Memoris Spectrum one twenty. We do our
weekly visit with the Athletics major League Baseball beat writer
to talk about what.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Are the Mariners not only where they aren't place? How's
sustainable of the Athletics? Right behind him? I mean, who
thought that? Greg? Greg? How different does this Mariners looked
in last year? Well? Hitting, I know, but I mean
it's just something like who are these guys?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I know, right the offense where they have four or
five games already with eight runs or more.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's unbelievable. Greg Bell in for the mayor
stay tuned for that coming up next h We will
see you tomorrow, same time, same channels. You're gonna take
a twenty one hour break. Have a great Thursday, everyone, right,
here on ninety three to three kJ r FM,
Toughness. Remember that term mental toughness examples. A game winning
shot in the final seconds of a basketball game, a
clutch it in baseball, or a crucial goal in soccer
are all examples of clutch plays. Okay, the contrasting term,
the antonym, if you will, of clutch, is choke, which
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describes a player who fails to perform well under pressure.
Now what are we talking about here? Who are we
talking about here? In the current state of the sports
world that we are in right now, there is no
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one more clutch in sports than Jalen Brunson. That to me,
he's not even opinion, that's a fact. He just won
the clutch Player of the Year in the NBA. And
so then I started thinking, well, who else is clutch
and around in other sports? Who is truly clutch? Right now,
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Let's go to the NFL Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes's clutch wasn't
against the Eagles, but I would say that, yeah, I
would go with Mahomes. You could even argue Mahomes is
over Brunson because he's won three titles and Brunson's won zero.
So I don't have a problem with that. He's also
lost in those situations as well, and more recently so
(01:26):
in terms of if we're gonna go recency bias, and
I hate that phrase, then I'd have to go with
Jaylen Brunson all time. I mean huts, I mean his
middle name. Both of these guys' middle names, aside from Goat,
should be clutch Tom Brady. Michael Jordan Enough said, don't
(01:48):
even have to go anywhere, Tom Brady. Seven super Bowls
could have been more, but seven will never even come
close to being clutch. Now, can you be great and
not be clutch? Yes, you can. Lebron James to me,
he's great, but I've watched him in too many situations
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throughout his career. In particular, well, he's lost back to
back first round so that was not clutch in the
last couple of years. But I'm gonna go back to
prime Lebron. I'm gonna go back to the Let me
take my talents to South Beach. Lebron James twenty thirteen
NBA Finals, Game six. Spurs are up by five with
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about twenty six seconds left. He cut it to three.
Spurs missus shot he'd get the ball back Spolstra. They
run a play for Lebron He has the three pointer
right there, not at directly at the fifty yard line
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of the three point line, but a little bit to
the left there. He bricks it. Greg Popovich, the NBA
winning his coach of all time, he pulls Tim Duncan
out of the game for some stupid unknown reason which
I'll never know, and Chris Bosh grabs the rebound. What
does Bosh do? He looks in the corner at the
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guy who was the greatest shooter in NBA history before
Steph Curry, Ray Allen and Jesus Shuttlesworth hits a three
pointer ties the game goes to overtime. He win an overtime.
When they had the yellow tape up, they were about
(03:38):
to celebrate an NBA title. Talk about the Spurs here.
It was all set up. They were getting ready to
confetti and they blew a five or six point lead
with twenty seven seconds left in the game. Ray Allen clutch,
Who's also great, But who's clutch? Kobe? Kobe's clutch, but
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also there were times where he wasn't was it a clutch?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
When Lebron hit that three to make it a two
point game, which which one in the same game you're
talking about with this Spurs. He hit a three so
they could be with them two. Then he missed the
other three, and then they got the rebound. But he
hit he missed the first three that they drew up
out of an at o. He missed that one. They
got the Offen three rebound and threw it back to Lebron.
He nailed it to make it ninety four ninety two.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Did you just look this up?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay? And then but they were down by three when
ray Allen hit that shot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Because they mist because Kawhi went to the free throw
line and missed a free throw, and then they drew
it up for Lebron.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He missed, And did Kahi missed a freaking free throw?
Did he really arging nobly by the way, one of
the two right when a.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Lebron was clutching that moment, But overall he's in that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, And he was clutched in the two thousand and
nine Orlando, Yeah, he was there. I covered that. I
covered that, But he was clutching the game there. He
hit a three. Did just not look Jason Tatum World
Champion last year, Best player on the best team in
the league, Best Player last year, no doubt about it.
The antithesis of clutch, the absolute like the last I
(05:08):
just told you, I gave you six guys in the
Celtics right now, I'd have to take a shot before him.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I think you would have Jason Tatum shoot it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No. No, if I was Joe Missoula and well you,
he'd probably be mad at you. I would draw up
a play for Derek White number one. I think she
is clutch. That guy, now, granted, is gonna be the
Hall of Fame. No, he was on the Olympic team though,
he's clutch. Who, Like, if you think about clutch players
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in the history of let's go with the Seahawks for
a second. Let's just think about that. Who's a clutch
player in Seahawks history that you can you know that
if the game was on the line, And a lot
of people might not agree with me on this, but
Russ was clutch at times. Is he not against Green
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Bay at that playoff game? That would right? He definitely
made right. Okay, So I mean people, and I understand
there's still because you know, Russ wanted out. It didn't
end well here and he forced the trade and all
that stuff, And I get it. Russ was clutch. He was.
I'm not saying he's the most clutch player in Seahawks history.
He was clutch.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You don't think Lebron is clutch at all, or you
think I'm just trying to figure out where.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He not not to win a title, Not to win
a title, not when when if the game is on
the line and you have one shot to win a title.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, I put it in his hands because he's gonna
make the best decision.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Now, he could do that. That that but like in
Game seven of the twenty sixteen finals, he knew to
get it to Kyrie without a question. I mean he knew.
So that part fine, I'm talking about just taking the shot.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I would put him in that he's made. I mean
against Toronto to go up three to zero, that was huge.
Fading away going to the left, jumped off his left foot,
fading way hit a banker.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That was huge. There was another he had.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
A I'm talking about like, all right, here's I mean,
it's I don't know, four playoff eliminations is a top
three seed? I mean I could go through right right?
All right? Fair, But but I'm talking about like guys
who have who can come through like this guy. You know,
(07:23):
prior to Tom Brady, the goat was Joe Montana best
in the bat he was undefeating the Super Bowls. And
when four of them, I say, only still the second most, right,
the's still saying only one four when everything say that,
I know, well, I mean, but you know, hey, listen,
you know there's a chance Patrick Mahomes may never get
to number four. I doubt it. I doubt he won't.
(07:47):
Like I'm what I'm saying is that I'm sure he will,
but there's a chance he might not get to number four.
You know one guy I got to say, who's not clutch,
and I like this guy a lot. Lamar Jackson has
improved it in the biggest situations when you need it.
Can't get to a Super Bowl. Listen, he did prove it.
He just now no, no, no. This year was on
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Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Last year was on Flowers that fumbled the football. Yeah,
he's had I think three seasons where he put the
ball in his guy's hands and they don't deliver.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That shouldn't fall on him being clutched because.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He was You're done. Yeah, when you're the is Josh
Allen clutch? I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, I don't think we've seen enough yet.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Well, but Josh Allen came the league with Lamar Jackson
and and I think we've seen enough. If we're gonna
judge Lamar, we need to judge Josh Allen. Fine, and
Josh Allen is not clutch. I don't think they go
back and look at somebody. Well, you just here's the thing.
They've had multiple chances to go to the super Bowl
and they they could not get it done. Now, one
time I will say that the coin toss costs them,
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you know, and they changed the rule. But every time
you think Buffalo's gonna take that next step, and they
did they not.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Gets hard to judge auarterback on their clutches, though, because
they need everything around him, unless you're Mahomes or Brady.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But hey, listen, it's like being the league singer of
the band Bro. You get all the credit and if
you have a bad show, you get all the blame.
It comes with it. It comes with it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But what I'm saying, my point is that would say
a receiver could be more clutch than a quarterback in
that snow because they have to.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No, the quarterback sets up the receiver. He has to
be clutch.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But you only have two jobs for a receiver. You
got to get over and catch the football. If you
can't catch Oh no, I'm not saying receivers can't be clutched.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm just saying that. I think it's just tough to
You can't catch the ball if you don't have the
right quarterback throwing to you. Right, I mean, but that
Johnson did that his whole career. But but yeah, me
and you throw them the full Yeah you mean Andre Johnson? Andre,
I'm like, who's a o Andre Johnson? Could you imagine
if he played because at the end of his career
he signed with the Colts and I don't even think
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Peyton was still there or he was really washed at
that point. Could you imagine if Andre Johnson had played
with Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, that's my point, Like that, right, he is clutch
every game because he got me and you thrown him
football despite go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
No, no, no, you're right, No, keep going, keep on.
I'm gonna give you example of two of the greatest
receivers of all time. One is better than the other,
but the other was in clutch. Randy Moss, our second
greatest receiver in NFL history, was not clutch and any
Now did he catch a touchdown against the Giants at
the end of Super Bowl forty two before they then
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eighteen and oh team lost? Yes? How about the Super
Bowl against the Ravens when he was at the forty
nine ers he got alligator arms. He was just never clutch. Meanwhile,
Michael Irvin don't have the numbers Randy Moss had, But
Michael Irvin his biggest games, his biggest plays were in
the biggest games, on the biggest stages clutch. So now
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both are great. One was clutch, one was not. They're
both Hall of famers, but it's something different. It's rare
for an athlete to be clutch in both being great
and have the clutch word with you. It's rare to
have both of Steph Curry, I mean yes, on both
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great and clutch, there's no doubt. And then who knows,
maybe he has another one left in him, another ring
left in him. I don't know. I don't think it's
gonna be this year, but you never know. Clutch. I
think Jokich is clutch and he's great, and I think
the best is yet to come. Paul George No. Kawhi
absolutely in the biggest stage when the Spurs needed to
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win a title, they rode the coattails of Kawhi Leonard.
When the Raptors the Raptors, but they had some good players.
Siakam Og, who was just coming into the league was
a little bit, you know, a little you have a
young player at the time. But Kawhi Leonard single handedly
led the Toronto Raptors to a title, which is something
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that the hockey team has not done in over sixty
years in that city. So I like the athletes that
like to me when I when we look at a
guy like Jalen Brunson right now, it's like last night
he was horrible. But guess what when they needed to
take the lead. I'm talking about the Knicks, he came
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up clutch money. Absolutely, he hit the shot the three
to give the Knicks their first lead of the game.
I'm always looking for guys. Magic Johnson was clutch. I
mean we could go down. The Larry Bird was amazing.
Pat Riley had one of the greatest quotes of all
time and he said, if I want to win a title,
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I'm gonna give the ball to Michael. If it's one
shot to win a title, I'm gonna give the ball
to Michael Jordan. If it's one shot to save my life,
I'm gonna give the ball to Larry Bird. I was like,
whoa wow, Like and he's even putting Bird above Jordan
and that, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't disagree
with that. I think that that's you know, Patrick Ewing
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not clutch. Just he wasn't in big game situations. He choked.
He just did and just I mean, you know, he
just I saw it. I watched it, you know, and
missing a point blank bunny lay in against the Pacers
and just never could come up big having a three
to two league, you know. So there's a fine line. Listen,
Ken Griffy Junior amazing player. Was he clutch? I I
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what are you give me the postseason moments in Junior's
career that that you can because I can't think of
any of big postseason moments in KEG. Griffy Junior's career
other than the win against the Yankees in ninety five.
Other than that, When did he come up big in
the postseason? He didn't, He never did. And that was
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more Edgar, like Edgar was the one who came up
big there, it wasn't you know, like, so you can
be great to get that clutch word anonymous with great,
it's tough to do. It's tough to do. Listen. I
think we go down the list of great quarterbacks in
the NFL right now, justin Herbert borderline, very good, could
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possibly great, not clutch and win anything. You know, he
gets the playoffs, he gets nothing. Matter of fact, people
in LA right now are questioning like if this guy
was the right guy, and you know so it's a
fine line.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So we're doing playoffs only or playoffs.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well that the whole thing is to win a title,
So you're only defined to me like you could be
great in the regular seasons. Boston Celtics were four and
oh against the Knicks in the regular season. They're owing
two in the playoffs. So all I care about is
the postseason MVP awards. All that crap don't mean jack
ish when you get to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But isn't that so the clutch Award for Jale isn't
that a regular season award though? Or is that a
postseason the ward because he ain't.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But he's been clutching the postseason for the Knicks, he
has been Oh, I know, right, right, but no, if
that this year was a regular season award, but it's
a first I think that the one of the first
ones they get. But he hasn't done it. He doesn't
want anything. No, he hasn't, true, but he comes up
big against the Pistons, he hit the game winning shot.
He did it against the Celtics in Game one.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know, even ten years, if they don't win a
title at all, will he still be clutching your eyes
considering he has zero titles, but he's clutching playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's a great question. I would have to say.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I could give you like eight Lebron moments in the
playoff where he's clutch and maybe a team didn't win
at all.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I shouldn't take away from it. Lebron did win
titles though, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Think that's fair for Jalen though, because yeah, it's he's
still hitting big shots. He can't play, he can't do everything.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, no, and by the way, he doesn't need to
do everything because he's got a pretty good team around
him as well. I think, you know, I think if
you're clutch or clutch.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm great, sure, yeah, but I think Lebron crosses off
both because he has like fifteen game winning shots and
half of them are playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Did he do any in the finals? How many of
the finals in the NBA finals?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't think he has any of the finals?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, I mean that's to me, is where it kind
of now? I will say this the one thing I
will give you. Will he make Will he get it
to Kyrie? Will he you know, find a way to
put you know, the team in a Lebron James is
one of the great, if not the greatest passer this
side of Magic Johnson the history of the NBA. If
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he wanted to just be a point guard, he could
have been a point card if he wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
How many the steph have in the finals? What game winners?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
One or two? How many have the Warriors been able?
Were they the one without him? Like, here's my and
here's my thing on Lebron. They won first of all,
don't even like, like Charles Barkley said, the Mickey Mouse
title doesn't count. We don't count empty gyms in Orlando.
That's the worst title. Same thing with the Dodgers with
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cardboard cutouts at the ballpark at Arlington. In the World Series,
we throw those titles out. He didn't, he lost, He
didn't win the title in twenty thirteen because of him,
he wanted because of Ray Allen. Ray Allen saved bailed
them out, plain and simple.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Just as you could say Michael Jordan was built up by.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Steve Okay, and just as you could say that Lebron
came up short in twenty eleven against Dallas, Okay, twenty
fourteen against San Antonio, twenty seventeen against Clutch though, but
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. But he's the leader, he's the
best player on the team. You gotta be Clutch.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But I'm thinking, I'm thinking of shows you're talking about
Steph Curry.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You asked about Steph Curry twenty twenty two, Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So he has two or one?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, he won the finals MVP. I listen, I know,
but Lebron has four VP. Okay, but no, But I'm
saying that you.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Confused on what you're trying to quantify for Clutch because
you're pointing out series right, and then the same.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You can be a finals MVP and not be clutch.
I mean, you know, I'm just gonna figure out. Shaunce
Bellips won a Finals MVP. Was he clutch? I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Big shot Billups, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, it was more well Robert Ory was clutch, yes,
right right? Was he great? No? But he was clutched.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
We know Lebron's great, and we know he's probably I.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Don't have listen, I've gone through this. There are one
hundred players in NBA history to win a Finals. I
would take over Lebron James. We don't have enough time
in the show to go through them. I would take
a hundred players in the history of the NBA. I
could tell you I would take Gary Peyton, Dale Ellis,
I would go through. I could take.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Ten shooter Gary or Lebron.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Well, Gary Payton was a point guard. I would I
would take Gary Payton. At the end of it, I
would take Peyton over Lebron. Shooting was yeah, I would
take Dale Ellis over Lebron James to shoot Lebron's a
Lebron James is not a good three point shooter, and
he's never been in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think he might be better percentage wise than both
not Dale but Gary, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, I would put money on that. Well, I mean,
that's fine, but I wouldn't. I would take at least
I one hundred guys.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I don't think you can get to ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I did this one time on the show, and I
went through all of and by the way, was easy.
It was easy to do. I went through the current,
I went through former, I.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Through you really hate Lebron?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Go, oh no, there's yeah, no, there're guys like Lebron.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I can't get a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I'll talking about to win a game seven down by two,
you have three seconds to inbounds the ball. Who are
you picking to take the shot?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, Lebron's probably top fifty.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He's not so now you're going to fit all but you,
I mean, he's that slow for you. I believe he's clutched.
But you had top fifties. Not for the one of
the greatest players of all time. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I know his bag is not, but at least you
say you said, I know his bag is not to score,
but I would go I have.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
A hot I could go through the list comprehensively of
one hundred players.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That Gary Payton wants to know. For me, I'm giving
it to Lebron.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm sorry, all right, fair enough, and you lose, so
I don't know any how many games when he says, Gary, hey,
I will listen. I comparison to the but he he
won a title. Lebron got four titles. I know, I know,
but he did. No, I get it, But Gary Payton did.
And listen, he was this side of Magic Johnson, Isaiah
Thomas maybe the third best point guard I've ever seen
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in my life. Because I don't count Steph Curry as
a point guard. I count him as an off guard.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
He's a He's a Steph guard.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right, He's in his own category, his own exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He's not of this world. So all right, So what
do you say?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Text of the day coming up next four nine four
five one is, uh, we just gave you a lot
to there. And if you like to join, if you
like to just tell me who you think is the
most clutch player in Seahawks history. I'd like to know.
There hasn't been who's been the most clutch player in
Mariner's history. I can't really say because they haven't been
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in a world series. No, I'm seriously, I'm not trying
to say that, but like, you know, come on, yeah,
I'm just just trying. I'm just telling you. They haven't
they haven't done. Each row wasn't clutch, he wasn't not here.
Yeah the sound of yeah, I just yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I you know, it just is what it is. Oh,
Lebron chased down block, please, I mean that's what Okay,
fair enough? Who hit the game winning shot? Kyrie? But
find the.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Blog doesn't happen. We're not having the shot Kyle.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
AT's eleya Kyrie Kyrie? Fair enough, but it was Kyrie
who won that game. All right, We'll get to what
you say. Textaday coming up next right here on MJ
in the midday. Oh. By the way, I got numbers.
I got numbers. I got numbers. That's why I always
keep notes. You gotta keep notes. Can't remember everything. But uh,
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four consecutive NBA finals four from twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, actually five in twenty fifteen and
fourth quarters of NBA finals, Lebron James completely choked in
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those final they one two, but in the fourth quarter
of those finals for five years from twenty eleven to
twenty fifteen, in the fourth quarter, came up nowhere zero.
Dick Fane. By the way, I'm glad Dick is Dick.
Dick's texting me during the break. Good to see Dick's
back from one of his thirty six weeks of vacation.
Welcome back, Dick. I'm glad you're back for today. Glad
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you're gonna be on your show today for the first time.
But I can't wait till I get to the thirty
six weeks vacation that you get every year. All right,
let's go here. Griffy wasn't in the playoffs offen, but
but he was when he raked. He hit five bombs
against the Yankees, scored the winning run on Eggar's double.
Griffy was Hella clutch. How about after though? He played
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for the Mayor and the majority of his career, and
then he went to Cincinnati got injured. Harley was ever
in the playoffs, not his fault, but when he did
play in the postseason, was a stud. But there wasn't
a big sample size, And did you you didn't get
to the World Series. So like those games, you have
to eventually, you have to eventually advance in your career.
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He was he was hurting Cincinnati. So is what it is?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
From our guy Ben the two O six Edgar Martinez
was the most clutch player in Mariner's history because his
double one men expensive rack of German.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Bayer beer from a smart What is that beer?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Beer? Oh? B I e R Yeah? Spell it differently over?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Why couldn't he just spell it the right way? Because
I'm wondering. Okay, yeah, nose bear. Okay, he got some beer,
So Ben, shout out, Ego Martinez came up clutch because
you got some.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
He got some something to drink. I get you.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yep. Uh, let's see to here we go. Griffy hit
two ninety six home runs, eleven RBIs and twelve runs
scored in eighteen games in his postseason career. Again, you
have to eventually get to a World Series. You have
to get there. Is Mike Trout clutch? I don't even
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I can't even remember. If you blinked, you missed Mike
Trout in the playoffs. I think he was in once,
maybe twice, maybe one one series. I don't even remember.
I don't even Mike Trout, Like I can tell you
who was clutch in his career. Bryce Harper, Bryce Harper
was really clutch. Juan Soto when he was with the
Nats was pretty clutch. I can tell you that much, MJ.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Or Mark, you'll appreciate this from the three six So
here lebron list of more clutch players most likely is
as long as Chris Jericho's list of holds.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yes, that's funny. I like I always love with the
wrestling references. I love it. Yeah, let's see here, all right,
Jesus Mark, I don't like Lebron either, but damn settle down,
bro loll.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
This next one is from our guy Travis MJ. Update
on the female hustler a second date inbound.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know what, I will tell you something. She needed
to she got her car out of the pound. She
needed to get out. It was completely totally legit, and
there could be yes, there there could be a sequel
happening very soon. Yes, we're we're gonna have to wait
(25:20):
for tomorrow to get a better Well not tomorrow, how
about Monday or like then, end the weekend happens, right right?
All right, how about the weekend happens. But I'll tell
you what kind of feel bad right now? Because it
was all legit and she ended up getting and getting
her car out. She's she's not asking any money for duy,
she just needed to get her car out. Now I
feel bad, I will tell you, but I didn't know,
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like you know, you you don't meet someone once and
you're giving them three hundred dollars, like, hey, come on.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Then well, according to her, it went from I need three.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Hund right right, you know that? Oh no, two, study two,
but give it to me by two thirty. And then
I didn't know. Then a towing guy he was like, uh, yeah,
we towing impound. Man. I'll tell you what those towing
impound You leave that in there a long time. Eventually
they're gonna own your car. Yeah, really own your car.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This next one is from two oh six. They did
some googling because I wasn't sure if Gary Payton had
a game winner. I'm sure he has, but Gary Payton
absolutely hit a game winner in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Probably against the Bulls, because it wasn't with the heat.
When he was with the heat, he was more of
like as old yeah out there. Yeah, I mean he
was great. Listen. They I think games three and four,
or may have been four and five that the GP
came up big. I tell you what his his son
looks pretty clutch every now and then GP Jr. Clutch
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out what, Well, he hits some shots here and there
like the regular season, and I've seen him hit some
shots in the postseason here and there. Not winners, but
he's like, his son's the decent player. He's not Bronny.
We're not compared. Okay, I just say his son deserves
this sounds like legit, man, I mean, it's obviously you're
(27:02):
on a you got Steph, you got padjem Ski, You've
got you know.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He fits in perfectly what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I agree, I like it. So let's see here. If
this seemingly endless conversation they went to the Saint Trees together,
he went to where we went to the same middle
school he went to He went to the same Yeah,
so he was two years younger than me.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Nice he was, he was, he was finding a character
back then. I don't even know if he will remember me,
that's how long.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Ago it was. Wow. If this seemingly endless conversation of
the concept of clutch is parody, well done, clutches clutch already,
then well, no, you gotta define it. We always there's
always there's always more.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
From the two o six most clutch Seahawk, Russell Wilson, countless,
backbreaking scrambles, comebacks. It's what made him special. One a
wide receiver, Jermaine Curse one b Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So you have Russell Wilson one this person did yes,
all right, all right, let's see here, you guys are whack.
Lamar is overrated. Ask any national report of Lamar's throating
Andrews his way off. Lamar's not clutch, he hasn't won bleep,
he has a one bleep. But that catch was right
in his hands, man, I mean it was right there.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It wasn't a perfect pass, but my.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Oh no, no, no, for Mark Andrews a perennial all
prought that. I'm just having, Like, right, if you're looking
for a perfect pass.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It was not perfect, But Mark is catching that ten
times out of ten, falling into the end zone winning it?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
All right?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Am I wrong for that?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What's up? You're making that catch? It's it's right. I mean, oh,
there's no excuses. And by the way, he felt bad
and Lamar felt bad for him.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Absolutely, yeah. His next one is from the two five
to three.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'll take bast Mode over just about anybody in Seahawks
history to be my clutch guy. I love the heart
and sure will power of that guy.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, oh, I don't have a problem with that either.
He was clutch and he was on you know, the
the winning the only franchise that you know, Vince Lombardi
winning team in franchise history. So yeah, there's no doubt
about it. According to let me see going to be
epic MJ. Rant oh Ben from two oh six, Dan
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Marino Hall of Fame, NFL Records historic quickest release. Can
he be clutched? Don't know, he never was really tested.
Lost Super Bowl in his second season, but that was
because of a bad defense. But then there were he
had like a eighteen year career that he was not clutch.
I mean, and by the way, neither was Lway until
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his last couple of years. Oh wait, you know always
now they're saying Gary Payton hit one against the Mavericks
in two thousand and six. Boy, I don't remember that,
and I covered that finals, I really did. He wow,
So you know, google necessary was against Dallas and so
it must have been with the heat when they beat
the Maps that year in o six championship. Yeah, yeah,
that was they rode the co tails of Dwayne Waye.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
There this next one, oh just lost it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, I hate when that happens.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Don't know you poopy scoop. Oh here it is from
the four two five. Theve flop is a fraud and
MJ is right. He is not clutch. In fact, he
is anti clutch.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
All right, there you go, m and oh and then
he said in two five to three, this is about
Lamar and he fumble. G t fo h with Lamar,
he's trash. Never in the playoffs. Now he hasn't do
it in.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
The hang on, sorry to cut you off. Went that fumble?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Are you talking the same playoff game from this season
or years ago?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think it was this season.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well, he fumbled, let his team back and then we
all know what happened. So technically he's clutch, and that's
scenario one thousand clutch. He fumbled, they were down and
then he brought him.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh listen, they should have won that game and faced
the Chiefs and oh they did. No one's going to
bluffo Buffalo. They lost, right, so they should have definitely
won that game. So hey, thanks kid, out of boy,
Mark Kope, fine, true love, my man, have a great day, gentleman.
From the two, it's like, so that's a nice well wish.
You don't really get those Travis right, Hey, hey, hey
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for three Hey, Mark, I just got a DUI can
you send me three hundred dollars? Sure? What's your venmo? Yeah,
I'll be right on over that. Don't hold your breath. Uh.
Wilson is not clutch. He threw three picks to put
us in that hole for that Green Bay playoff game,
and he wasn't clutching the second Super Bowl for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Someone I think the same text for that said Gary
Payton game winner against the MAVs. They just sent us
the YouTube video, so i'll see you go ahead and
drop it in then you can see the shot that
he hit.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Wow. Yeah. I think Hugh said there were more issues
with Lamar's timing on that throw than the catch itself.
That being said, he need listen. Andrews cost him the game,
cost him a shot at going to Kansas City and
possibly beating the Chiefs. And I think they could have
beaten the Chiefs possibly. I'm not saying they would have,
but they could have. They got Derrick Henry and they
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got that. You know they well, Lamar Jackson, man, you
always have. I would have loved to see Lamar versus
Mahomes in the AFC Championship game. All right, appreciate it.
What do you say? Texts of the day, everybody? That
was really good? And you know what, man, we get
a lot of ones. I wish I could read on
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the air. I wish I could, but we can't. Someone
just wanted to say, most clutch ever was Steve Largin
of a seahawk of all time. I have no issue
with that what soever. All right, and let me get
one more, every person that knows football, the throw to
Andrews was terrible. The cat should have been made, no pressure,
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Andrews wide open. He didn't miss him. He had it
in his hands. What do you mean he missed them?
What part of like he put it in his freaking hands?
I mean, come on, guys, like we did, we must
be what. You know, what's amazing? They said? This is
why art. You can sell a painting for a million
of dollars, because one person could look at that painting
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and think it's trash, and the other person can look
at that painting and think it's treasure and that's but
there was no doubt Lamar Jackson put that ball in
Mark Andrews. I don't need Hugh millin psychoanalysis to tell
me I watched. I saw it over and over. Okay,
all right, I don't need all twenty two on this one. There, sweethearts,
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Oh Jesus, Mark Andrews was Bill Buckner, and believe me,
in Baltimore they were calling him Mark Buckner because he
dropped the freaking ball. Lamar was not at fault there.
This is a guy that won two and probably like
Jokich who has won three MVPs, should win four. Lamar
should have probably won three straight MVPs. Let's be real.
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Andrews dropped the ball. And Andrews admitted afterwards and apologized
to the fans of Baltimore and his teammates. He's a
class act. He's a great tight end. He lost the game.
Oh man, you guys, get me going on a ransom
kind of whinding down and getting ready to talk to
Greg bell Is gonna be in here and for Ian
today like oh man, oh man, even oh this, okay,
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you're sometimes Chris, you just got to say, I give up.
I give up. All right, Greg Bell coming up next,
crosstalk right here on MJ in the midday. All right,
thanks again to Mike Sando for joining us earlier today.
One thing I have to give kras do this man,
he did deliver on his promise Paul Pierce. He apparently
walked in to work today all the way twenty miles
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or something to that effect. He put on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah he did, he did. He saw cag and Cagie
says stay safe.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Greg Bell in today for the mayor of Maple Valley
in Ferness West Points. Finest son is just graduated from
wazoos a koog. So congrats to your son on that.
Thanks mat Hey. How the rookies for what Chris? Yeah,
ag Hey, from the cookies at Mini camp and everything
that you've heard, What have you heard that it's stood
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out to you or that you've seen that stood out
to you so far?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Well, I'm going to talk about it. I wrote about
it in the News Tribune. Mark the virtual reality systems
that they are trying on Jalen Milroe, the Alabama quarterback
who they are basically trying to give him the the
Jaden Daniels treatment from last year and from LSU. They're
going to strap a VR headset on him and they're
going to speed up the game and go at one
point seventy five times the speed of the regular game
(35:30):
between games and between practices to get his mind acclimated
to an NFL game speed. It's fascinating to me that
more teams aren't doing this already, but I think every
football team down the pee wee.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Oh, well, you know, it's a comedy. Everyone's going to
be doing it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
We saw what happened with Jayden Daniels I wrote about
in the story it's at the Newstribute dot com. But
before he was an Arizona State quarterback who has many
interceptions as touchdown passes. His last year at a issue,
he transfers to LSU. LSU Sports Performance staff finds a
two German entrepreneurs starting a VR company. They wanted to
(36:05):
do it for European soccer players, but the company wasn't
really taken off yet. They come to the United States
and they make a pitch to LSU about this. They'll
try it in the football team, and their first case
was Jaden Daniels and between games in the middle of
that twenty twenty three season, they strapped a VR headset
on him, sped the game up one point seven five
times of speedy game.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Between actual games in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Week three of the SEC season. You can look up
this September twenty six, twenty twenty three. He is game
at Mississippi State thirty for thirty six, four hundred total yards,
four total touchdowns. They won forty one to fourteen on
the road a Mississippi State, and he's never stopped using
it since he won the Heisman Trophy with it. When
the Commanders drafted him, Mark, one of the conditions was
(36:50):
that you are bringing this VR system with me.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
What do the Commanders do?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
They go to the NFC title game for the first
time in thirty three years and he wins Offensive Rookie
of the Year.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Greg, How did let me just ask you this. There
seems so much to be going on with a quarterback
in a game. How does your brain be able to
process doing v R while the defense is on the field? Yeah?
I mean, how's that happened?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
The idea is that you've sped up throughout the week
without any taking mental physical reps by the way nowhere
and tear the physical reps. But the idea is that
you sped up yourself in reading the defenses all week
so that in the game it's slow and you can
anticipate the plays. You can anticipate the coverages, the disguises,
the blitzes, and at a speed that is, like I said,
(37:34):
one and a half one in three quarters times slower
than you've been training all week.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Well, like, I was just impressed that he did it.
Now you're telling me he did doing during a lot
of games, and he did during the NFL last year too, well,
not in the games themselves. He trained his mind. I
gotcha games, so right right, So exactly, if you could
think of one, two, three, or just maybe one most
clutch player in Seahawks history that you can think of,
(37:58):
well you gotta go to the postseason, right, Russell Wilson,
Thank you, thank you. And now now it's validating with
Greg Bell says it. Thank you, Greg, Well, I mean
why not? I mean, but I would say another one
that gets overlooked Jermaine Curse. People forget that Jermaine Curse
should have won a second consecutive Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
On his own, I know with that catch. So those
are the two to me. All right, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Man, fair enough, I will, I you know, selfishly prime blades. Yeah,
games quite as much. Well yeah, but I looked up
his numbers. He had like four or five one thousand
receiving yard seasons.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
He was all eleven years here, yes, like eighty nine.
But some dark age is unfortunately, or some mediocre ages.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Someright, Greg Bell, what do you got? Coming up?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
With Carbin Smith at two o'clock to talk about rookie
Mini Campis from Memoris Spectrum one twenty. We do our
weekly visit with the Athletics major League Baseball beat writer
to talk about what.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Are the Mariners not only where they aren't place? How's
sustainable of the Athletics? Right behind him? I mean, who
thought that? Greg? Greg? How different does this Mariners looked
in last year? Well? Hitting, I know, but I mean
it's just something like who are these guys?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I know, right the offense where they have four or
five games already with eight runs or more.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's unbelievable. Greg Bell in for the mayor
stay tuned for that coming up next h We will
see you tomorrow, same time, same channels. You're gonna take
a twenty one hour break. Have a great Thursday, everyone, right,
here on ninety three to three kJ r FM,
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