June 11, 2025 • 27 mins
Tony East who covers the Indiana Pacers and Fever for Forbes joins the show to talk NBA and WNBA. Perhaps Tony can chat with Adam Silver and get him to signoff on the return of the Seattle Sonics!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of two and keep this a competitive series.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, well, first of all, I'm plattered by the IU love.
But Mark Cuban an attendee, not a graduate, actually a
legend of the school, but for the for different reasons
than his finishing.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well hold on, wait a second, he didn't graduate.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No, he did not graduate.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Was you know what, dough Tony.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
You know what, though, he's one of those guys like
Mark Zuckerberg with Harvard you know what I mean, where
they dry listen, Yeah, they dropped out, but you know what,
you still claim.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Them, right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
His name is everywhere, his name is exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hey, by the way, can I just tell you this
what you know? My favorite IU alum is.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
O g Anobi love them best.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Og and I overlapped at school and one time he
was at Qdoba in front of me in line and
it was his first time there, and he turned to
me and he said, hey, O man, what's good here?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I was like, what's good here? You've never gonna
Keidoba before?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
The dude. I love what they asked him after one
of the games, like he had huge shots against the
Pacers in a big game and they were asking like
how do you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And he's just like, how do I feel about?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Like, you know, you hit big shots down, the click
goes good. He just doesn't like his lack of self.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Awareness is actually it's it's a it's a high quality
trait that most athletes and people in general. It's a
good thing when they say, you know, like, oh you
might have this egregious lack of self awareness. No, for
og it's actually a strength. It's an attribute you now
when you ask.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
People like how are you doing, you don't actually expect
them to answer. That's how og answers like every single question.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So tonight, hey, listen is to the Pacers, they have
a chance to like, do you think is this legitimate?
Is Carlisle gonna go back into the lab and make
some adjustments here? Because listen, man, I mean one thing
the thunder the Proofs in last game was how much
Halliburton had gotten killed on the pick and roll.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, they they couldn't get into paint at all in
that game.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
They have thirty four points in the paint in both
of these games, which.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Is their second and third lowest number of the playoffs
and would be their second worst number of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like that's what the Thunder do. Man they wall off
the paint. They get to their defense really early, so
it's hard to get there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And so the Pacers for years have called their offensive
philosophy paint to great, like they want to get there
and think they get great shots either into paint or
on the shots that they get out of there.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And they couldn't even get there. Like in the first game,
they at least got the got into the paint, we're.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Able to spray out for threes or you know, draw
a foul or something in the game too. They couldn't
get there at all, and that was the thunders identity
kind of clamping down on them. So it's a big
problem to solve because it's something that the thunder have
been good at all season and it's a problem, a
new problem for the Pacers to solve. But in terms
of their own confidence, they have a lots back to
back game since early March. Every playoff game they lost,
(02:55):
you know, the game three to Cleveland and Milwaukee and
New York, and in Game five to New York. They
came out the next game looks great and specifically looks
great against the one thing that was you know, causing
them problems in the game before, so I was in
the Thunder are the biggest challenge they've had yet by far.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
They're really good. They're defense is incredible. Like, I still
probably think the Thunder should be.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The favorite to come out of the series, but the
Pacers problem solving has been so good that I think
they have some confidence they can win tonight and try
to get up to one before they have to go
back to Okay see with either two two or three one.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If they don't if they lose both at home obviously.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I mean, I'm not going on a limb here as
any sort of master prognosticator, even though I'm a very
good sharp gambler. Tony East, I know you and I
just met, But do you ever need any picks? My
producer Christopher Kidd, well, he'll put us together and I'll
help you out. I did, prior to the start of
the NBA Playoffs bet the Oklahoma City Thunder to win
it all. I mean, granted it wasn't going on any limb,
(03:48):
and its team won nearly seventy games this season. I mean,
they're a wagon, but like, I just feel like for
the Pacers, like you know, and that swing, you know tonight,
that game three, it's pivotal because you got to get
one out of.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Two at home.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And you know, here's the thing too, if you if
they are able Tony to somehow find a way to
upset the thunder tonight, don't be satisfied like the Knicks.
And you know, like the Knicks did it at Boston
when they got game one. I'm like, don't be satisfied,
like get game four two, and then you put them
on their heels going back to OKC down three to one.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right, and that sounds so easy to do exactly. They
won what they won eighty games this year in Allen Covie.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, just beat up.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Just beat him twice, guys, no big deal. But yeah,
they've got to be like that. And this is the
first time the entire playoffs the Pacers haven't been ahead
in a series. Like they won the first two games.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Of every series they've played in the Eastern Conference field,
So like this is a new test for them, Like
how do they respond.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
To this situation? What happens if they lose? Like how
does their psyche hold up? Because this is different, Like
we can talk about the basketball of it all because
on paper.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think everybody's say the Thunder a better team if
they just played like seven random games. But it's the finals, right,
Like there's a big stage, there's all this stuff going on,
legacy easier at stake, Like people aren't thinking always about
the game.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
They're thinking about other stuff for whatever reason or another.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And that's why I think they need to split at
home so bad because then they get a game six
at home guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And if you get a.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Home game for game six and you never know what
happened to the finals game seven, like you've got a chance, right,
Like mentally everybody thinks they have a chance at that point.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So they've got to get the split and get this
back to okay, see with at least two wins, because
I mean, I think this is well said, like with
the series has been ninety six minutes, ninety four of them,
the Thunder have been better basically right in the head.
So yeah, it's one to one and they earned one
one certainly with that close, but they have not been
the better team. They need to find a way to
literally be better to I have a question for you
to see the Seattle claim the Thunder do they hate No,
(05:46):
they have the Thunder.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Now everybody, I've only ent her four months, Tony, most listen,
most like in judging from ninety nine percent, everybody hates
the Thunder because obviously this team was ripped away eighteen
years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So just so you know, there is a huge contingent
of Pacers.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
People are rooting for the Pacers here in the PNW,
the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
People here in Seattle do not want the Thunder winning
this thing.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I have a I try to have a shirt for
m Baba team just because I'm a dork and I
don't have a thundershirt. And I was trying to set
up a background for like a video recording, and I
have a Sonic shirt. So I currently have a ray
Allen Shirsey hanging up in here. And I was like, oh,
I should have asked if if they claim the Thunder.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
After what happened with Clay Bennett and Howard Schultz and
David stern Man, there is no lov And you know what,
it's not anything against Tony. It's not against Shay Gildss, Alexander, Jalen, Williams,
chet Holme, Grin low Door, Aaron Wiggins and the you know,
it's not against those guys, Isaiah Joe. It's just against
(06:52):
the ownership, Like there would be no Oklahoma City Thunder
if they didn't rip it away from the Seattle Super SOXS.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Hey, Tony, so you're covering all these games?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Okay, Tony, listen, and you don't like we just met
and like you know, this is like a first interview,
like a first date. But I'm asking you a favor
for everybody here in Seattle if you could do this.
If you can't, and it's not a big ass, but
if you can get near Adam Silver, could you specifically
ask him about like I know he was asked about
(07:26):
expansion and he gave a word salady answer saying something
to the extent of, we're looking into it. We want
to evolve the league, but it's not automatic, so we
gave this kind of diplomatic word salad type answer. Can
you specifically ask him about, Hey, people in Seattle now
have gone an entire generation without the Sonics? What is
(07:48):
the timetable and how much longer? You know, like, do
you feel like they're gonna wait? Now? It wasn't that
Adam Silver, He didn't do this. It was David Stern,
but we're just dying and listen. I you know, I
was credential for the fun, but I didn't go because
you know, it was Indian OKC and I'm not going
down to OKC. So if you get a chance be
Seattle would really appreciate you, Tony East, if you could
(08:11):
get to Adam Silver and just or just even find
out something about you know, they said they're gonna talk
about expansion at the owners and meetings next month in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, they need to be a little more concrete with that.
The WNBA I covered too, is the same way they
were so dodgy about it the whole time. At least
Seattle does have the storm right but right I don't know,
it's hard to think, like now they have the new
CBA for the NBA, like what specifically they'd be waiting
for event wise to add new teams?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right? Like they're clearly healthy that even if the ratings.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Are what they are, like a huge TV deal is
just signed, Like what exactly are they hoping happened soon
that would make it the right time to add a
new team.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's what I don't understand. And even it also seems
obvious like what two markets would be.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So I'm just I'm always intrigued by why he gives
the same kind of yeah, we're evaluating, Well, what.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What are you evaluating? Like that's going on with us?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, you gotta get a seventy six billion dollar TV deal?
What's there to evaluate? And listen, there are thirty two
teams in the NFL. Why not have thirty two teams
in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And listen?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know Kenny Smith on Inside the NBA, the greatest,
you know, sports studio show of all time, Tony, he
said something, and he said something the last night of
the Eastern Conference Finals when Indiana and I bet a
lot on Indiana that night over the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That was an easy cover. But he said something.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
He goes, there are four, you know, the Mount Rushmore
of basketball capitals in America are New York City, Chicago, LA.
And he said Indiana and he man the whole state
of Indiana. And I agree with that, But I got
to tell you, man, Seattle's not that far off. Seattle
is a major basketball city in a huge hub. And
(09:48):
it's just wrong, Like this is a top ten radio market, Tony,
and we don't have it. And it's not the fact.
And by the way, the ownership and you have the
absolute state of the yard arena, Climate Pledge Arena, which
you could eat off the floor. It's so clean, it's beautiful,
the crack and are playing there.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's ready to go.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And Tony you can understand, like imagine having a beloved
team that won the first ever city's ever, first ever
World championship in any sport back in nineteen seventy nine,
and then had those great Sonics teams in the nineties
with Gary Payton and Sean Kemp.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's like it's been it's been eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's like Kevin Durant played his rookie season here in Seattle,
and it's like, holy crap, like they've been gone since
after Durant's rookie year.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
They've haven't had an nbaighteen year.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
If Jeff Creen and Kevin Duran retire, maybe that's the
year that they expanded. It has to be like, there
has to be a there has to be a there
has to be a sonic in the league.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right, that's the right, right, that's the good one.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, Jeff Wright exactly, Jeff Kevin Durant, Chris Paul too, Chris.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Paul Right, yeahh god, I mean, my lord.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But uh for this series though, when you look at
this matchup, let me ask you this too. The ratings
have not been good. Do you think it's a combo
of because you got to get the casual fan and
the non casual fan to watch the diehard's the p
ones like me and you and and uh my producer
Christopher Kidd, We're gonna watch. I mean even people here
(11:20):
in Seattle will hate watch just to just like they
love Game one, and they will hate watch just to
hope that the Thunder don't win it all. But do
you think it's a combo of its it's two small
markets or just the fact that guys like even though
he just won the MVP, Shay Gilds, Alexander Jalen Williams,
Tyrese Haliburton and Pascal Siakam aren't Kevin Durant, Steph Curry
(11:44):
and Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, the small market part is part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know, they're they're tipping at eight thirty, trying to
be late, but like on the West Coast, the game start.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
At five five thirty, right, I like that. Yeah, that's
a part of this too.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They're doing their best to get everybody in in that way,
and then you know, I kind of feel like the
ratings talk like one who like I don't care because
I'm I'm gonna watch it working no matter what. But
I can't believe it's not a wake up call.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
For the NBA to be like the MVP is playing
in the finals right now, Like, how are people not
ampt about that? You know, like that should be what
people want.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And I get that that he's, you know, an overseas MVP,
which people talk all about the next up American VP
who's going to be blah blah blah. But the fact
that they can't market new stars very well has to
be a wake up call for them, especially looking at
like who the last four teams were this year and
how the league is kind of changing that. You know,
everybody loves the Lebron's, that's the Kades, and that's great.
Those are great players, and they're still great right now.
(12:38):
But I think seen the last couple of years kind
of the changing of the guard. Luca's in the finals,
Shades in the finals, Tyres Holburn's in the finals. They've
got to figure out how to market those guys, because
for better or worse, their league does have a problem
where a lot of the fandom of it is of players,
not of teams, and so they have to find a
way to get these stars to be, you know, more
marketable for the general public. And so like in the
(13:01):
Nike era where every big star wars with Nike, was
a lot easier, but now it's a lot more challenging,
I think, And that that's what I think the ratings
conversation should be. It's not, oh, the ratings are bad
because of the small markets. It's well, why can't the
NBA get like the NFL people interested in this Villa
Packer Steelers Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's right right, Packer Steelers. Everybody would be affed right
like there it's the team and then it's just not
working here. So that that I think what the conversation
should be about.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
No question.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Tony East joining us here on MJ in the Midday
Sports Radio ninety three to three kJ R. Tony Caitlyn Clark,
the biggest needle mover, the biggest star in the w
n B A and uh, there was a guy from
barstool he calls him Ohio's tape. He goes hey listen,
and he had this, He had this tweet that, you know,
(13:46):
as they like to say when viral, he goes, oh, hey,
don't think that the w n B A like there.
They don't need uh, Caitlyn Clark, Hey, look at the
Chicago Sky Uh. The tickets are being scouted for a
total of three dollars with the Chicago Sky play. In
other words, translation, without Caitlyn Clark, nobody's watching. People don't
(14:09):
care about Angel Rees. Angel Reese.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right now, she is.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Turning into the Anna Kornakova of the WNBA, where she's
known more for her obviously esthetics. She's absolutely, you know, gorgeous.
She looks like a model. But her game, her her
name is bigger than her game right now. And what
are people there in Indiana like feel when when they
(14:35):
talk about Caitlyn Clark versus Angel Rees.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, it's really interesting because the funny part of that,
all that conversation is like the fandom of the world
like wants a rivalry all the time, right, everybody wants
us to be a rivalry. They're so close in geographics
and those two players with.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
A face of that draft and look at that. They
know this hard Fattl the first game. Like the way
people talk about it here is like, oh, big games, Fever,
it's a big rivalry. And then the Fever kicked their
butt like every single time, and then that's it. And
so that's kind of the funny discussion here is everybody
all the time being like it's so funny that it's
talked about like this huge rivalry when it's not a
rivalry at all.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
No, this guy has to do any.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Anything of note before it becomes a rivalry. The only
thing making it even kind of interesting to me is
that it's regional. And of course those two players played
each other in that National championship game because Clark's just
better and the Fever are just better, right, And so
that's kind of all the discussion here is like the
rivals for Clark probably should be like lead, right, Yeah,
she finished fourth or fifth, She finished fourth or fifth.
(15:34):
I can't remember an MVP voting last year, Like she's
in that.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Class a player. You know, she's just better than Angel Rees.
That's not even a shot at reach. She was an
All Star last year for a reason. But it's it's
kind of what it should be.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
They played a liberty on Saturday, Like, people are way
more excited for that game than they were for any
sky Feaver game this season.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's I think the more realistic discussion there.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
No question, you know what I don't like though, when
it starts to go into the racial overtones and then
Caitlin Clark versus Angel Rey turns into Ryan Clark versus
RG three and then Ryan Clark questioning RG three's at this,
and it's just like, let's not go there, guys, right,
I get it there's a magic bird element, but like
(16:14):
you said, there's no rivalry because Caitlyn Clark is great
and I like Angel Rees I do, but I've studied.
I'm like, she's gotta step up her game more man,
and she's gotta I mean, you know what I mean.
Like listen, like I said, she looks like a Runway modo,
but you're being paid to play. You know, you can
do all that modeling stuff and all that, and like
you know you want to. And she's always talked about
(16:37):
on how you know WNB players should be paid as
much as NBA players.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, let's be real. I mean, that's that's an absolute joke.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Number one, that's not gonna happen that'll probably never happen,
and like, you need to step up your game if
she needs to step up her game. And I'm saying
this from someone who likes Angel reestyle, so like Caitlyn Clark, Hey,
guess what I can root for both of them.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, don'ty?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, she's got to play a better certainly, like she
was better last year.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Honestly in a lot of ways, some stats are saying
that her seasons are bad. The Sky team just stinks.
They have no point guard, they have no anything, and
Angel hasn't.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Really been able to like break out of it and
look better. And that's yeah, you're right, like a big
part of marketability or you know, saying all these things
that make you part of the Face League, and you.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Got to play better to keep that status at its
absolute highest level. And I think like last night, two
nights ago, I can't remember, there was you know, quite
a quite heartfelt messaging about Angel and her and who
she is from her teammate Aeriel Atkins in a press conference,
Like I think this guy realized, like they're playing real
bad and we're expected to be better.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And I think people thought Angel would be a little
better this season.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
She played well and unrivaled in a granted that's three
on three, but like her defense looked better. I thought
she was in for a big season and hasn't really
gone that way.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So she's got to be better. I think the league
knows that. I think she knows it. And we'll see
where this goes for the Sky because they have not
had a good start to the year.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
All right, before I let you go less than twenty seconds,
Cooper Flag is going to be the number one pick
the draft by far and away. He's gonna be the
first whiteborn American number one overall pick since since who
don't google it?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Who is it? Larry Larry ber Larry No, no, I no,
but a fellow.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I you grad Kent Benson in the nineteenth Keed Benson
from Ayah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I should have got that. I got that?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Should have got that? Tony, come on, man hey, listen,
man hey, I appreciate the time. Let's hope that this
series can.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I want to see it be somewhat competitive and uh
and see if you can get to Adam Silver and
ask him about the songs coming back to Seattle. All right, Tony,
you got it, You got it, all right, Tony Steer,
Thanks again for joining us Kent Benson number one pick
in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We pay homage to the final ever episode of the
greatest television show of all time coming up the top
of the next hour worst Take screaming a versus fakes,
Get Bayliss right on MJ in the Miday Sports Radio
ninety three to three KJRFM, and then it just faded
to black, and everybody was pissed off, including me, and
(19:09):
we thought something was wrong with your TV. Didn't know
if it went on. You know, it's one of those
things that actually happened. David Chase's genius on the ending
of The Sopranos was I was pissed off, like everybody else.
I'm like, w what the bleep was that? How are
you just gonna fade to black? And we don't know
if Tony got killed or not. Nobody knows, But in actuality,
(19:33):
it's one of those things. As time has gone on
eighteen years, I appreciate it now in retrospect. I didn't
at the time, but now I look back and I said,
what an ending? What an ending?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And everybody was up in arms about it, But I mean, wow,
and that by the way that singular show.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
The final episode of The Sopranos popularized Journeys Don't Stop Believing.
And that song, they said it was some type of
billboard has been the most played song in music history.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And it had a lot to do with that show,
cause this song came out.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Hell, I was almost like, you know, I was around
the time, was still almost like crapping my diapers when
that song came out in the early eighties, you know,
and like, I guess it was popular. I thought, you know,
I heard it on the radio. My dad was playing
classic rock. But you know, when they played it at
the end of The Sopranos, it took on a life
of its own and Journey started becoming popular again.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was like one of those things like WHOA, how
did that happen?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
This song and it's they said, it's the most played
song in the history of music, Journeys Don't Stop Believing.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I I don't know. You can look it up for
whatever it's worth.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
But when I think of the best TV shows of
all time, Tom Hanks said the three most impactful TV
shows ever were The Sopranos, Mad Men No, The Sopranos,
Breaking Bad Number two, and mad men. I will tell you,
in my opinion, I'm gonna go Sopranos breaking Bad for me.
(21:18):
I love Snowfall, Snowfall. If if you didn't watch Snowfall
in FX, you missed it, Like it just came out,
you can find it on demand on a streaming service.
It was a time piece and it took place in
La in south central LA in the early eighties. And
they had this character who was just to me, Franklin
(21:42):
Saint was almost, if not more ruthless than Tony Soprano.
That's how great this character was in Snowfall, and literally
it was, Oh my god, it was like Omar and.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So text line.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I ask you today, give me your top three TV
shows of all time.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I want them. You can give me your top five.
I'm only going to name three of them. Give them
to me. Kid Snowfall one of your top three.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Man, that's I would have to go, Wow, this is
gonna take come back to me. I think.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, I'll probably go Power. Oh I like Power. I
like Power.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Power was good.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I need a second, all right, you didn't I didn't
plan for this. I'll go Breaking Bad number two. Okay,
Breaking Bad. I was stunned by how amazing it was.
I didn't expect that, and especially the oh my god,
oh my god, I'm thinking about it now.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, the ending was insane. Hey, Pals was good, but
Breaking Bad's ending was like, what the.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hell just happened?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh my god? Uh damn. By the way, damn, call
Saul is up there. I just got to think on
where I want to put.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It bin off of Breaking Yeah, that was our guy,
Franklin Saint played by the great Damson Idris, who is
now in a big box office movie playing opposite Brad Pitt.
Just came to five f one or one one two
f one. Uh, this dude is one of the best
actors around. He's unbelievable. And oh, here it is The
Walking Dead.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I'll go there. Oh. I never got into Walking Dead.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
No, no, never got into The Walking Dead or any
of the vampire shows, True Blood, Vampire.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Diary, don't.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I never got into that. But by the way, I
heard Walking Dead was like amazing. Though no, I heard
it was good. But then you didn't finish the first season.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I never watched an episode of Walking Dead.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Oh well, then that'll I think if you would have
started today, you'd stay up till three am to finish
the first season. If you started at eight o'clock, you
would finish the first season some time in the morning,
and Chris I had to finish it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I like the guy who was one of the main
carre Jeffrey Dean Morgan. He was one of them.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Oh you know, he's from here, from Seattle, Not Seattle,
He's from somewhere on the east out of Washington.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But he's from Washington. Oh, and his role is iconic.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, I for me. If I gotta go,
I'm gonna go. Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Snowfall. I really love Snowfall,
and I love mad Men too. Mad Men was great.
John Hamm playing the character Don Draper was just insane.
Big fan of Christina Hendricks. By the way, you can
google her name and you'll know why. But I was
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a big fan of her as well. But Sopranos man.
And it sucks because I remember where I was when
I got the text that James Gandolfini died in Italy
six years later, and it was almost identical to six
years after the final Sopranos episode he died. I remember
I was in a Mets Braves game at Turner Field
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in Atlanta, and I was like, oh no, James Gandolfini died.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm like, oh no, what happened? But what a show man.
It's one of those shows I have Max.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It's gonna be re It's gonna be recalled. It's now
gonna be called HBO Max this summer. They're getting away
from just Max. They want HBO to be in front
of it. HBO Max this Summer. It's the type of
show I would invest watching from episode one all the
way until the end.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Again.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
So and I became good friends with a guy who
became the rival to James Gandolfini's character, Tony Soprano. You
saw him in Goodfellas, you saw him and Casino, you
saw him in The Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Frank Vincent.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Frank Vincent who played Billy Batts in Good Fellows, who
told Joe Pesci's character to go home and get his
f n shinebox. That guy, he played Phil Leotardo in
The Sopranos in the final seasons, and he was Tony's
rival crime boss. And let's just say that Phil came
to an end in that final episode when the suv
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ran over his head.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
If you remember that, so what a show?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
It'll They don't make them like that anymore, but occasionally
we get a great show.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I loved Ozark. Oh oh, by the way, Ozar. Did
you like Ozark?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Is she?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You didn't like it? I never watched, you never watched Okay,
I liked Ozark. But Snowfall.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Before this, I would never have thought that Snowfall was
my top three. I love the Wire too.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Problem with the Wire, like Game of Thrones, was that
The Wire had so many characters. I couldn't keep track
of them. And by the way, you know who got
his start as an actor in the Wire as a kid,
as a like Michael B. Jordan Bingo. That's where it started.
It started in the Wire, yuh, go back and look
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at it. He was a skinny, little ninety eight pound
weekling and now he's one of the biggest stars in
the planet. Iconic Iconic. I want your top TV shows
of all time? Top three on the text like four nine,
four or five to one. They're coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
MJ.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I'm a huge Zet fan. Was so excited after hearing
you was so disappointed in the doc boring. I've seen
way better watch Leonard Skinner's easy top Beastie Boys, even
if rap or not Beastie fan one thousand percent better
all three.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I agree a little bit. You're not wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
We're getting the text. We'll We'll get to that and
so much more coming up next. Oh, don't forget the
top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We will have.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Then the reunion of Screaming A and Fakes. Get Bayless
worst take at the top of this hour. You're not
gonna want to miss this. Coming up next, Seahawks. What's
the respect or lack thereof that their secondary gets amongst
the top ranked corners in safeties and coding to Pro
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Football Focus Next on MJ in the midday Sports Radio
ninety three to three, kJ are at them
One of two and keep this a competitive series.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, well, first of all, I'm plattered by the IU love.
But Mark Cuban an attendee, not a graduate, actually a
legend of the school, but for the for different reasons
than his finishing.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well hold on, wait a second, he didn't graduate.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No, he did not graduate.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Was you know what, dough Tony.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
You know what, though, he's one of those guys like
Mark Zuckerberg with Harvard you know what I mean, where
they dry listen, Yeah, they dropped out, but you know what,
you still claim.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Them, right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
His name is everywhere, his name is exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hey, by the way, can I just tell you this
what you know? My favorite IU alum is.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
O g Anobi love them best.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Og and I overlapped at school and one time he
was at Qdoba in front of me in line and
it was his first time there, and he turned to
me and he said, hey, O man, what's good here?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I was like, what's good here? You've never gonna
Keidoba before?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
The dude. I love what they asked him after one
of the games, like he had huge shots against the
Pacers in a big game and they were asking like
how do you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And he's just like, how do I feel about?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Like, you know, you hit big shots down, the click
goes good. He just doesn't like his lack of self.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Awareness is actually it's it's a it's a high quality
trait that most athletes and people in general. It's a
good thing when they say, you know, like, oh you
might have this egregious lack of self awareness. No, for
og it's actually a strength. It's an attribute you now
when you ask.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
People like how are you doing, you don't actually expect
them to answer. That's how og answers like every single question.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So tonight, hey, listen is to the Pacers, they have
a chance to like, do you think is this legitimate?
Is Carlisle gonna go back into the lab and make
some adjustments here? Because listen, man, I mean one thing
the thunder the Proofs in last game was how much
Halliburton had gotten killed on the pick and roll.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, they they couldn't get into paint at all in
that game.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
They have thirty four points in the paint in both
of these games, which.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Is their second and third lowest number of the playoffs
and would be their second worst number of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like that's what the Thunder do. Man they wall off
the paint. They get to their defense really early, so
it's hard to get there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And so the Pacers for years have called their offensive
philosophy paint to great, like they want to get there
and think they get great shots either into paint or
on the shots that they get out of there.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And they couldn't even get there. Like in the first game,
they at least got the got into the paint, we're.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Able to spray out for threes or you know, draw
a foul or something in the game too. They couldn't
get there at all, and that was the thunders identity
kind of clamping down on them. So it's a big
problem to solve because it's something that the thunder have
been good at all season and it's a problem, a
new problem for the Pacers to solve. But in terms
of their own confidence, they have a lots back to
back game since early March. Every playoff game they lost,
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you know, the game three to Cleveland and Milwaukee and
New York, and in Game five to New York. They
came out the next game looks great and specifically looks
great against the one thing that was you know, causing
them problems in the game before, so I was in
the Thunder are the biggest challenge they've had yet by far.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
They're really good. They're defense is incredible. Like, I still
probably think the Thunder should be.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The favorite to come out of the series, but the
Pacers problem solving has been so good that I think
they have some confidence they can win tonight and try
to get up to one before they have to go
back to Okay see with either two two or three one.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If they don't if they lose both at home obviously.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I mean, I'm not going on a limb here as
any sort of master prognosticator, even though I'm a very
good sharp gambler. Tony East, I know you and I
just met, But do you ever need any picks? My
producer Christopher Kidd, well, he'll put us together and I'll
help you out. I did, prior to the start of
the NBA Playoffs bet the Oklahoma City Thunder to win
it all. I mean, granted it wasn't going on any limb,
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and its team won nearly seventy games this season. I mean,
they're a wagon, but like, I just feel like for
the Pacers, like you know, and that swing, you know tonight,
that game three, it's pivotal because you got to get
one out of.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Two at home.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And you know, here's the thing too, if you if
they are able Tony to somehow find a way to
upset the thunder tonight, don't be satisfied like the Knicks.
And you know, like the Knicks did it at Boston
when they got game one. I'm like, don't be satisfied,
like get game four two, and then you put them
on their heels going back to OKC down three to one.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right, and that sounds so easy to do exactly. They
won what they won eighty games this year in Allen Covie.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, just beat up.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Just beat him twice, guys, no big deal. But yeah,
they've got to be like that. And this is the
first time the entire playoffs the Pacers haven't been ahead
in a series. Like they won the first two games.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Of every series they've played in the Eastern Conference field,
So like this is a new test for them, Like
how do they respond.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
To this situation? What happens if they lose? Like how
does their psyche hold up? Because this is different, Like
we can talk about the basketball of it all because
on paper.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think everybody's say the Thunder a better team if
they just played like seven random games. But it's the finals, right,
Like there's a big stage, there's all this stuff going on,
legacy easier at stake, Like people aren't thinking always about
the game.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
They're thinking about other stuff for whatever reason or another.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And that's why I think they need to split at
home so bad because then they get a game six
at home guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And if you get a.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Home game for game six and you never know what
happened to the finals game seven, like you've got a chance, right,
Like mentally everybody thinks they have a chance at that point.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So they've got to get the split and get this
back to okay, see with at least two wins, because
I mean, I think this is well said, like with
the series has been ninety six minutes, ninety four of them,
the Thunder have been better basically right in the head.
So yeah, it's one to one and they earned one
one certainly with that close, but they have not been
the better team. They need to find a way to
literally be better to I have a question for you
to see the Seattle claim the Thunder do they hate No,
(05:46):
they have the Thunder.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Now everybody, I've only ent her four months, Tony, most listen,
most like in judging from ninety nine percent, everybody hates
the Thunder because obviously this team was ripped away eighteen
years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So just so you know, there is a huge contingent
of Pacers.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
People are rooting for the Pacers here in the PNW,
the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
People here in Seattle do not want the Thunder winning
this thing.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I have a I try to have a shirt for
m Baba team just because I'm a dork and I
don't have a thundershirt. And I was trying to set
up a background for like a video recording, and I
have a Sonic shirt. So I currently have a ray
Allen Shirsey hanging up in here. And I was like, oh,
I should have asked if if they claim the Thunder.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
After what happened with Clay Bennett and Howard Schultz and
David stern Man, there is no lov And you know what,
it's not anything against Tony. It's not against Shay Gildss, Alexander, Jalen, Williams,
chet Holme, Grin low Door, Aaron Wiggins and the you know,
it's not against those guys, Isaiah Joe. It's just against
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the ownership, Like there would be no Oklahoma City Thunder
if they didn't rip it away from the Seattle Super SOXS.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Hey, Tony, so you're covering all these games?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Okay, Tony, listen, and you don't like we just met
and like you know, this is like a first interview,
like a first date. But I'm asking you a favor
for everybody here in Seattle if you could do this.
If you can't, and it's not a big ass, but
if you can get near Adam Silver, could you specifically
ask him about like I know he was asked about
(07:26):
expansion and he gave a word salady answer saying something
to the extent of, we're looking into it. We want
to evolve the league, but it's not automatic, so we
gave this kind of diplomatic word salad type answer. Can
you specifically ask him about, Hey, people in Seattle now
have gone an entire generation without the Sonics? What is
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the timetable and how much longer? You know, like, do
you feel like they're gonna wait? Now? It wasn't that
Adam Silver, He didn't do this. It was David Stern,
but we're just dying and listen. I you know, I
was credential for the fun, but I didn't go because
you know, it was Indian OKC and I'm not going
down to OKC. So if you get a chance be
Seattle would really appreciate you, Tony East, if you could
(08:11):
get to Adam Silver and just or just even find
out something about you know, they said they're gonna talk
about expansion at the owners and meetings next month in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, they need to be a little more concrete with that.
The WNBA I covered too, is the same way they
were so dodgy about it the whole time. At least
Seattle does have the storm right but right I don't know,
it's hard to think, like now they have the new
CBA for the NBA, like what specifically they'd be waiting
for event wise to add new teams?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right? Like they're clearly healthy that even if the ratings.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Are what they are, like a huge TV deal is
just signed, Like what exactly are they hoping happened soon
that would make it the right time to add a
new team.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's what I don't understand. And even it also seems
obvious like what two markets would be.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So I'm just I'm always intrigued by why he gives
the same kind of yeah, we're evaluating, Well, what.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What are you evaluating? Like that's going on with us?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, you gotta get a seventy six billion dollar TV deal?
What's there to evaluate? And listen, there are thirty two
teams in the NFL. Why not have thirty two teams
in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And listen?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know Kenny Smith on Inside the NBA, the greatest,
you know, sports studio show of all time, Tony, he
said something, and he said something the last night of
the Eastern Conference Finals when Indiana and I bet a
lot on Indiana that night over the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That was an easy cover. But he said something.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
He goes, there are four, you know, the Mount Rushmore
of basketball capitals in America are New York City, Chicago, LA.
And he said Indiana and he man the whole state
of Indiana. And I agree with that, But I got
to tell you, man, Seattle's not that far off. Seattle
is a major basketball city in a huge hub. And
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it's just wrong, Like this is a top ten radio market, Tony,
and we don't have it. And it's not the fact.
And by the way, the ownership and you have the
absolute state of the yard arena, Climate Pledge Arena, which
you could eat off the floor. It's so clean, it's beautiful,
the crack and are playing there.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's ready to go.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And Tony you can understand, like imagine having a beloved
team that won the first ever city's ever, first ever
World championship in any sport back in nineteen seventy nine,
and then had those great Sonics teams in the nineties
with Gary Payton and Sean Kemp.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's like it's been it's been eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's like Kevin Durant played his rookie season here in Seattle,
and it's like, holy crap, like they've been gone since
after Durant's rookie year.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
They've haven't had an nbaighteen year.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
If Jeff Creen and Kevin Duran retire, maybe that's the
year that they expanded. It has to be like, there
has to be a there has to be a there
has to be a sonic in the league.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right, that's the right, right, that's the good one.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, Jeff Wright exactly, Jeff Kevin Durant, Chris Paul too, Chris.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Paul Right, yeahh god, I mean, my lord.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But uh for this series though, when you look at
this matchup, let me ask you this too. The ratings
have not been good. Do you think it's a combo
of because you got to get the casual fan and
the non casual fan to watch the diehard's the p
ones like me and you and and uh my producer
Christopher Kidd, We're gonna watch. I mean even people here
(11:20):
in Seattle will hate watch just to just like they
love Game one, and they will hate watch just to
hope that the Thunder don't win it all. But do
you think it's a combo of its it's two small
markets or just the fact that guys like even though
he just won the MVP, Shay Gilds, Alexander Jalen Williams,
Tyrese Haliburton and Pascal Siakam aren't Kevin Durant, Steph Curry
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and Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, the small market part is part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know, they're they're tipping at eight thirty, trying to
be late, but like on the West Coast, the game start.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
At five five thirty, right, I like that. Yeah, that's
a part of this too.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They're doing their best to get everybody in in that way,
and then you know, I kind of feel like the
ratings talk like one who like I don't care because
I'm I'm gonna watch it working no matter what. But
I can't believe it's not a wake up call.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
For the NBA to be like the MVP is playing
in the finals right now, Like, how are people not
ampt about that? You know, like that should be what
people want.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And I get that that he's, you know, an overseas MVP,
which people talk all about the next up American VP
who's going to be blah blah blah. But the fact
that they can't market new stars very well has to
be a wake up call for them, especially looking at
like who the last four teams were this year and
how the league is kind of changing that. You know,
everybody loves the Lebron's, that's the Kades, and that's great.
Those are great players, and they're still great right now.
(12:38):
But I think seen the last couple of years kind
of the changing of the guard. Luca's in the finals,
Shades in the finals, Tyres Holburn's in the finals. They've
got to figure out how to market those guys, because
for better or worse, their league does have a problem
where a lot of the fandom of it is of players,
not of teams, and so they have to find a
way to get these stars to be, you know, more
marketable for the general public. And so like in the
(13:01):
Nike era where every big star wars with Nike, was
a lot easier, but now it's a lot more challenging,
I think, And that that's what I think the ratings
conversation should be. It's not, oh, the ratings are bad
because of the small markets. It's well, why can't the
NBA get like the NFL people interested in this Villa
Packer Steelers Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's right right, Packer Steelers. Everybody would be affed right
like there it's the team and then it's just not
working here. So that that I think what the conversation
should be about.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
No question.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Tony East joining us here on MJ in the Midday
Sports Radio ninety three to three kJ R. Tony Caitlyn Clark,
the biggest needle mover, the biggest star in the w
n B A and uh, there was a guy from
barstool he calls him Ohio's tape. He goes hey listen,
and he had this, He had this tweet that, you know,
(13:46):
as they like to say when viral, he goes, oh, hey,
don't think that the w n B A like there.
They don't need uh, Caitlyn Clark, Hey, look at the
Chicago Sky Uh. The tickets are being scouted for a
total of three dollars with the Chicago Sky play. In
other words, translation, without Caitlyn Clark, nobody's watching. People don't
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care about Angel Rees. Angel Reese.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right now, she is.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Turning into the Anna Kornakova of the WNBA, where she's
known more for her obviously esthetics. She's absolutely, you know, gorgeous.
She looks like a model. But her game, her her
name is bigger than her game right now. And what
are people there in Indiana like feel when when they
(14:35):
talk about Caitlyn Clark versus Angel Rees.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, it's really interesting because the funny part of that,
all that conversation is like the fandom of the world
like wants a rivalry all the time, right, everybody wants
us to be a rivalry. They're so close in geographics
and those two players with.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
A face of that draft and look at that. They
know this hard Fattl the first game. Like the way
people talk about it here is like, oh, big games, Fever,
it's a big rivalry. And then the Fever kicked their
butt like every single time, and then that's it. And
so that's kind of the funny discussion here is everybody
all the time being like it's so funny that it's
talked about like this huge rivalry when it's not a
rivalry at all.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
No, this guy has to do any.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Anything of note before it becomes a rivalry. The only
thing making it even kind of interesting to me is
that it's regional. And of course those two players played
each other in that National championship game because Clark's just
better and the Fever are just better, right, And so
that's kind of all the discussion here is like the
rivals for Clark probably should be like lead, right, Yeah,
she finished fourth or fifth, She finished fourth or fifth.
(15:34):
I can't remember an MVP voting last year, Like she's
in that.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Class a player. You know, she's just better than Angel Rees.
That's not even a shot at reach. She was an
All Star last year for a reason. But it's it's
kind of what it should be.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
They played a liberty on Saturday, Like, people are way
more excited for that game than they were for any
sky Feaver game this season.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's I think the more realistic discussion there.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
No question, you know what I don't like though, when
it starts to go into the racial overtones and then
Caitlin Clark versus Angel Rey turns into Ryan Clark versus
RG three and then Ryan Clark questioning RG three's at this,
and it's just like, let's not go there, guys, right,
I get it there's a magic bird element, but like
(16:14):
you said, there's no rivalry because Caitlyn Clark is great
and I like Angel Rees I do, but I've studied.
I'm like, she's gotta step up her game more man,
and she's gotta I mean, you know what I mean.
Like listen, like I said, she looks like a Runway modo,
but you're being paid to play. You know, you can
do all that modeling stuff and all that, and like
you know you want to. And she's always talked about
(16:37):
on how you know WNB players should be paid as
much as NBA players.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, let's be real. I mean, that's that's an absolute joke.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Number one, that's not gonna happen that'll probably never happen,
and like, you need to step up your game if
she needs to step up her game. And I'm saying
this from someone who likes Angel reestyle, so like Caitlyn Clark, Hey,
guess what I can root for both of them.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, don'ty?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, she's got to play a better certainly, like she
was better last year.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Honestly in a lot of ways, some stats are saying
that her seasons are bad. The Sky team just stinks.
They have no point guard, they have no anything, and
Angel hasn't.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Really been able to like break out of it and
look better. And that's yeah, you're right, like a big
part of marketability or you know, saying all these things
that make you part of the Face League, and you.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Got to play better to keep that status at its
absolute highest level. And I think like last night, two
nights ago, I can't remember, there was you know, quite
a quite heartfelt messaging about Angel and her and who
she is from her teammate Aeriel Atkins in a press conference,
Like I think this guy realized, like they're playing real
bad and we're expected to be better.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And I think people thought Angel would be a little
better this season.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
She played well and unrivaled in a granted that's three
on three, but like her defense looked better. I thought
she was in for a big season and hasn't really
gone that way.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So she's got to be better. I think the league
knows that. I think she knows it. And we'll see
where this goes for the Sky because they have not
had a good start to the year.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
All right, before I let you go less than twenty seconds,
Cooper Flag is going to be the number one pick
the draft by far and away. He's gonna be the
first whiteborn American number one overall pick since since who
don't google it?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Who is it? Larry Larry ber Larry No, no, I no,
but a fellow.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I you grad Kent Benson in the nineteenth Keed Benson
from Ayah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I should have got that. I got that?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Should have got that? Tony, come on, man hey, listen,
man hey, I appreciate the time. Let's hope that this
series can.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I want to see it be somewhat competitive and uh
and see if you can get to Adam Silver and
ask him about the songs coming back to Seattle. All right, Tony,
you got it, You got it, all right, Tony Steer,
Thanks again for joining us Kent Benson number one pick
in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We pay homage to the final ever episode of the
greatest television show of all time coming up the top
of the next hour worst Take screaming a versus fakes,
Get Bayliss right on MJ in the Miday Sports Radio
ninety three to three KJRFM, and then it just faded
to black, and everybody was pissed off, including me, and
(19:09):
we thought something was wrong with your TV. Didn't know
if it went on. You know, it's one of those
things that actually happened. David Chase's genius on the ending
of The Sopranos was I was pissed off, like everybody else.
I'm like, w what the bleep was that? How are
you just gonna fade to black? And we don't know
if Tony got killed or not. Nobody knows, But in actuality,
(19:33):
it's one of those things. As time has gone on
eighteen years, I appreciate it now in retrospect. I didn't
at the time, but now I look back and I said,
what an ending? What an ending?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And everybody was up in arms about it, But I mean, wow,
and that by the way that singular show.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
The final episode of The Sopranos popularized Journeys Don't Stop Believing.
And that song, they said it was some type of
billboard has been the most played song in music history.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And it had a lot to do with that show,
cause this song came out.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Hell, I was almost like, you know, I was around
the time, was still almost like crapping my diapers when
that song came out in the early eighties, you know,
and like, I guess it was popular. I thought, you know,
I heard it on the radio. My dad was playing
classic rock. But you know, when they played it at
the end of The Sopranos, it took on a life
of its own and Journey started becoming popular again.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was like one of those things like WHOA, how
did that happen?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
This song and it's they said, it's the most played
song in the history of music, Journeys Don't Stop Believing.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I I don't know. You can look it up for
whatever it's worth.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
But when I think of the best TV shows of
all time, Tom Hanks said the three most impactful TV
shows ever were The Sopranos, Mad Men No, The Sopranos,
Breaking Bad Number two, and mad men. I will tell you,
in my opinion, I'm gonna go Sopranos breaking Bad for me.
(21:18):
I love Snowfall, Snowfall. If if you didn't watch Snowfall
in FX, you missed it, Like it just came out,
you can find it on demand on a streaming service.
It was a time piece and it took place in
La in south central LA in the early eighties. And
they had this character who was just to me, Franklin
(21:42):
Saint was almost, if not more ruthless than Tony Soprano.
That's how great this character was in Snowfall, and literally
it was, Oh my god, it was like Omar and.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So text line.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I ask you today, give me your top three TV
shows of all time.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I want them. You can give me your top five.
I'm only going to name three of them. Give them
to me. Kid Snowfall one of your top three.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Man, that's I would have to go, Wow, this is
gonna take come back to me. I think.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, I'll probably go Power. Oh I like Power. I
like Power.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Power was good.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I need a second, all right, you didn't I didn't
plan for this. I'll go Breaking Bad number two. Okay,
Breaking Bad. I was stunned by how amazing it was.
I didn't expect that, and especially the oh my god,
oh my god, I'm thinking about it now.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, the ending was insane. Hey, Pals was good, but
Breaking Bad's ending was like, what the.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hell just happened?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh my god? Uh damn. By the way, damn, call
Saul is up there. I just got to think on
where I want to put.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It bin off of Breaking Yeah, that was our guy,
Franklin Saint played by the great Damson Idris, who is
now in a big box office movie playing opposite Brad Pitt.
Just came to five f one or one one two
f one. Uh, this dude is one of the best
actors around. He's unbelievable. And oh, here it is The
Walking Dead.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I'll go there. Oh. I never got into Walking Dead.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
No, no, never got into The Walking Dead or any
of the vampire shows, True Blood, Vampire.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Diary, don't.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I never got into that. But by the way, I
heard Walking Dead was like amazing. Though no, I heard
it was good. But then you didn't finish the first season.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I never watched an episode of Walking Dead.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Oh well, then that'll I think if you would have
started today, you'd stay up till three am to finish
the first season. If you started at eight o'clock, you
would finish the first season some time in the morning,
and Chris I had to finish it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I like the guy who was one of the main
carre Jeffrey Dean Morgan. He was one of them.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Oh you know, he's from here, from Seattle, Not Seattle,
He's from somewhere on the east out of Washington.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But he's from Washington. Oh, and his role is iconic.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, I for me. If I gotta go,
I'm gonna go. Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Snowfall. I really love Snowfall,
and I love mad Men too. Mad Men was great.
John Hamm playing the character Don Draper was just insane.
Big fan of Christina Hendricks. By the way, you can
google her name and you'll know why. But I was
(24:27):
a big fan of her as well. But Sopranos man.
And it sucks because I remember where I was when
I got the text that James Gandolfini died in Italy
six years later, and it was almost identical to six
years after the final Sopranos episode he died. I remember
I was in a Mets Braves game at Turner Field
(24:49):
in Atlanta, and I was like, oh no, James Gandolfini died.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm like, oh no, what happened? But what a show man.
It's one of those shows I have Max.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It's gonna be re It's gonna be recalled. It's now
gonna be called HBO Max this summer. They're getting away
from just Max. They want HBO to be in front
of it. HBO Max this Summer. It's the type of
show I would invest watching from episode one all the
way until the end.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Again.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
So and I became good friends with a guy who
became the rival to James Gandolfini's character, Tony Soprano. You
saw him in Goodfellas, you saw him and Casino, you
saw him in The Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Frank Vincent.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Frank Vincent who played Billy Batts in Good Fellows, who
told Joe Pesci's character to go home and get his
f n shinebox. That guy, he played Phil Leotardo in
The Sopranos in the final seasons, and he was Tony's
rival crime boss. And let's just say that Phil came
to an end in that final episode when the suv
(25:58):
ran over his head.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
If you remember that, so what a show?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
It'll They don't make them like that anymore, but occasionally
we get a great show.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I loved Ozark. Oh oh, by the way, Ozar. Did
you like Ozark?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Is she?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You didn't like it? I never watched, you never watched Okay,
I liked Ozark. But Snowfall.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Before this, I would never have thought that Snowfall was
my top three. I love the Wire too.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Problem with the Wire, like Game of Thrones, was that
The Wire had so many characters. I couldn't keep track
of them. And by the way, you know who got
his start as an actor in the Wire as a kid,
as a like Michael B. Jordan Bingo. That's where it started.
It started in the Wire, yuh, go back and look
(26:43):
at it. He was a skinny, little ninety eight pound
weekling and now he's one of the biggest stars in
the planet. Iconic Iconic. I want your top TV shows
of all time? Top three on the text like four nine,
four or five to one. They're coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
MJ.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I'm a huge Zet fan. Was so excited after hearing
you was so disappointed in the doc boring. I've seen
way better watch Leonard Skinner's easy top Beastie Boys, even
if rap or not Beastie fan one thousand percent better
all three.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I agree a little bit. You're not wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
We're getting the text. We'll We'll get to that and
so much more coming up next. Oh, don't forget the
top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We will have.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Then the reunion of Screaming A and Fakes. Get Bayless
worst take at the top of this hour. You're not
gonna want to miss this. Coming up next, Seahawks. What's
the respect or lack thereof that their secondary gets amongst
the top ranked corners in safeties and coding to Pro
(27:46):
Football Focus Next on MJ in the midday Sports Radio
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