June 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Tremayne Person who writes on Sodo Mojo.com joins the show and shares his perspective on the Seattle Mariners who've hit a low this season. Marc and Christopher alos hit the text line and read back messages before closing the show with Ian Furness who shares what he has planned on his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of cal Raleigh, Tremaine person from Sodo Mojo joining us
here on MJ in the midday. Tremaine, you know, you
took the words right out of my mouth. And then
it seems like especially of the course of the last
seventeen games and after you know, going one in five
versus the Angels and Diamondbacks four and a.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Half out now the June swoon.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We all know what happened last year, Tremaine, but man,
could you imagine that? I mean, cal Raley could end
up with a fifty home run season and if the
Mariners don't make the playoffs, that's a major, major fail.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me, and you know,
I know that a lot of things can happen with
a schedule, but for me, like perspective wise, this will
always be the day that Jeremie Tevin opened for me.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tremade sre made. I love it, man. And by the way,
he's got this guy's got charisma. He did You're right man,
You're the you are You're the main he was the
app with Tier Tremaine. You're the main course, my man.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I appreciate this, but yeah, when you really think
about it or look at it. It's like, you know,
cal Rally, he got this big contract deal, right, and
we're all excited and there's a bunch of fan fare
for it, and when someone gets their bag sometimes you
can see, you know, a performance dip, and we got
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the opposite from Cayl Rally right, So with his performance
right now, and then you think about the Mariners wanting
to have like a bunch of bounce back seasons from
Hawaii planco JP Crawford, et cetera, Luke Railey, We're not
really getting that. We're getting some pop from from Polanco
and it's great, But when it comes down to it,
cal Radley's playing out of his mind. He's a career
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two twenty batter. He's bearing up a lot of balls.
He's performing, you know, he's gearing it. He's on pace
of hit sixty six more runs. You know, so wow,
No one would have thought that at this mark with
Kyle Riley, you know, getting twenty five home runs or
twenty six home runs, now, that you'd be seeing a
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Manner's team that's under five hundred. You know, nobody, I think,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, I agree, nobody would have thought that. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, So I mean there's a lot of I
do think there's like a little nuance to it. There's
a lot of factors that really aren't going the Manor's
way right now. You know, Logan Gilbert down, Bryce Miller
can't get his arm right. Brian wu who you know,
you could argue was the best picture in the rotation,
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or at least have the potential to be the best.
He currently is the best picture in the rotation, and
half of them are wiped out, you know, So I
do think you got to kind of take those things
in account, Like no one expected Logan Evans to be
up right now, and pitching in the rotation, like just
multiple terms in the rotation. Emerson Hancock is like a
staple and a figure in the rotation right now. When
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it comes down to it, like the pitching is I think,
uh ranked, you know, half to the bottom half of
the league right now, So they're not even really the
Mariners are relying on a ton of run support that
they aren't really getting. You know. The batters can't really
bail out the pitching. So it's kind of a it's
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kind of a double edged sword, so to speak. Some
situation in the manners right now tremain personally long wait question, No, no, no,
by the way, no, you got to read your article.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I enjoy your stuff sodomojo dot com. He also has
a podcast, Keep It Electric as well, so check that out,
which was founded in twenty twenty three. And I like
the word that you use, nuanced, because it's true. It's like,
I mean, you know, Tremaine, I just got here like
four and a half months ago. Well yeah, well yeah,
thank you. And you're are you new to Seattle to
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or no, you've been here a while.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I moved here. I actually moved here the year that
they broke the streak, like I bought Susan Diggets, moved here,
went to all the home games, and you know it's
at the cow Roley game.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh okay, so you got to hear about three year
and three and a half years ago.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah okay, yeah, nice. Nice.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I mean you just look at this man, and
you know, like, let's go, let's turn the clock back
Tremaine to a year ago right now on June thirteenth,
twenty twenty four, and this team had, you know, a
nice lead over the Houston Astros. If you go back
Tremaine to June eighteenth. Do you know since then, since
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June eighteenth of last year, the Mariners have only one
forty eight percent of their games.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, that's six percent low than fifty four right.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, yes, exactly, Yeah, the Jerry Depoto fifty four percent.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Exactly right.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, is that your question?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know, but you know, but it's just it's just
like what I'm saying, is that, like, what what's going
on that every June rolls around, you get to July,
the all start break, and here we go again.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, from you know, my
point of view, and some people may not agree with this,
but you know, the manors can't really they can't really
hit in their own park, y'all. Look at if you hit.
If you look at the Splits over the last several seasons,
they generally played better on the road, and it's kind
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of it's kind of surprising. So, like you look at
all these gangers like JP Crawford has no problem hitting
in someone else's house, you know, and and that and
that kind of goes across the board when it comes
to the roster. But they're still trying to figure out
how to hit and tea mobile and it really doesn't
help that, you know, they moved the walls in like
years ago, so it doesn't help that they have a
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really kind of short or small outfield, so they're not
really like they can't really put the ball in the
places that it needs to go. And then they also
can't hit it out of the park, so they're kind
of like screwed in their own home ballpark. And then
they go on the road and they kind of make
up for it. But then if you can't win for
the ro can't win on the road, you can't win
in someone else's house, then you're kind of like not
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a good team that makes sense. Home cooking doesn't work,
winning on the road doesn't work, and now you get
stuck with the team that's underside hundred. Then you know,
on top of that, you don't really like this is
a team that lived and died by the home run ball,
so to speak. They're not really big at clutch hitting.
You'll get a clutch hit out of a rose arena
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late in the ball game, but for the most part,
it's kind of like the same recipe. This is a
team that you know, leaves a lot of renas on base,
and this is a team that when they win a game,
it's usually because they hit multiple home runs. And that's
kind of all you get out of like at least
from the offensive part of Mayors Baseball.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Very well said. And you know what too, Treman. I
was looking at this, I called them, and you feel free.
You can you can use this, I say the lob
and Seattle's back, but instead of legion of boom and
stands for left on base and tremain in thirteen losses
in their last seventeen games, and those thirteen losses, they
left ninety three runners on base. Wednesday against the Diamondbacks,
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they were one for twelve at runners in scoring position.
In those thirteen losses. They're twenty for twenty two with
runners in scoring position for a one fifty eight average.
That is not gonna get you to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
My friend, oh got at all?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And so what does Jerry Depoto do now? Is what
I'm asking, Like, what is what can you do?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But do you like?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
My thing is like you're gonna have to part with
it one of those arms. I don't know if it's Hancock, Pryce, Miller,
You're not gonna get much for right now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't know if it's Logan Evans, You're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Part with one of those guys and one of your
you know, starting nine, and you're gonna have to go
out and you know maybe and you know, you look
at like the team they just played, How nice would
have been you spend You could have got Josh Naylor
coming off an All Star season for eleven million dollars. Instead,
you spend five million dollars on two guys who couldn't
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hit water if they fill out of a boat, Rowdy
t Lez and Donovan Solano.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And it's just like.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And then all right, Vargas, fine, But imagine if this
team still had Eugenio Suarez right with the season he's having.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I just I just had a piece hit this morning
about that exact situation. It's a piece about how the
Manors should acquire Josh Naylor. But in the opening part
of that piece, I said something around the lines of,
you know, this past series against the Diamondbacks was symbolic.
It was it was a display of what they let
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go with Suarez hitting a Grand Slam in Game one,
and then right on the end of that was a
display of a player that they never had the guts
to go out and get in Josh Naylor hitting a
grand slam. I mean, like the whole series kind of
told a story between those two conversations, the conversations of
letting Geno go and the conversations of failing to acquire Naylor.
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The thing is Naylor is like, it's not off the table,
and neither is Swarz. I mean, going into that series,
like the Diamondbacks were under five hundred, they don't really honestly,
they don't really have a shot at the nl West.
They have a bunch of inspiring contracts coming up. It
would be really strange to see them as buyers at
the trade deadline. At the rate that the Dodgers, Pogis
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and Giants are going, that's a three headed monster up there.
It's unlikely that they're going to catch up. So like
Naylor's not off the table, Swords is not off the table,
and the Diamondbacks is I'm going to spind on this
one for a second, but the Diamondbacks have like a
crapshoot of arms. They lost Corbyn Burns, they really need arms.
So a deal between the Diamondbacks and the Manners actually
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makes a ton of sense when you look at it,
and they've also done deals with four. So to bring
it back with you talking about them moving a member
of the starting rotation, I think would be likely if
they were all healthy. I think it would be really
strange for them to move one of their arms, if
you know, Kirby's not back in the far form, if
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you know, as long as Gilbert doesn't have any setbacks
when he returns, and if Bryce Mayer can get his
arm back, like sure, I think you got like a
nice like number five starter or in uh Logan Evans
or Emerson Hancock. I don't know how much Emerson Hancock
could like attract on the market right now. I definitely
think he's like a he deserves to be in a
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starting rotation somewhere. I think the Manners might be one
of the only rotations that like couldn't use the Emerson
Hancock if that makes sense. But to acquire a guy
like Josh Neiler, especially performing the way that he's calling,
you know, it's going to take a haul, you know.
And I don't think any team is going to just
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like kind of hand over a slugger like if you
want to do with the Manners like the man they're
going to force the marriage to come correct, and that
means someone like a Castillo or one of those you know,
top rotation arms to get an actual deal done. Because
every team knows how bad they need bats right now.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Do you think that they would have to also include
Harry Ford or Lazaro Montes or that too much?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I think it would be foolish. Okay, Okay, yeah, I
think that would be foolish. I know a lot of
people you know, like to talk about Harry Ford getting moved,
and I mean like it's likely or it's possible, but like,
I don't really see that happening. I think more or
less like the mayors want to get out from under
Mitch Garber and then Harry Forward kind of sit in
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behind Raleigh and help, you know, take Riley off, help
take Riley off his feet a little bit at the
catch a position he can just you know feel in
at dight at times.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But honestly, like at this rate, it does seem like
the hot seat, like Jerry Depose is approaching the hot seat,
and if he wants to keep his job, he might
have to somebody like a Harry Ford of Montes. But
those are two really prime prize possessions in the farm
Montes is actually ridiculous. He looks like the next JR.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Navel is Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I know, I know he's got some pop man, that's
it and that and he might he could.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean I've even seen he could even be better
than him. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Mean he's like he's a lot more disciplined at the
plate than he used to be. He's just soaring up
the Baseball America charts with this performance right now. So like,
I don't know, if someone wants the pri Montes out
of the man's farm like it, I would want I
would want someone better than Josh Naylor even to be honest,
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like that's just my preference because that's given up a
lot to give up Montese.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, yeah, that's true. That's uh yeah yeah, I Naylor.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You just look at it and you're like, you know,
tremain person here from sodomojo dot com, And you look
at like if they just done something in the off seasons,
which is what Justin turned or talked about, they had
just tried and listen, all right, Paul, there's no way
I can tell you. And and you know, Pete Lonzo
was not coming here. A lot of guys don't want
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to come here because it's not a heat hitters ballpark,
all right, Goldschmith, Christian Walker.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But Josh Kneeler that was attainable. He was an attainable.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Guy, right, Yeah, absolutely, And especially with the market, the
market for first baseman this pass off season, it's kind
of foolish. I mean, when do you kind of look
at it? Like the infield was a giant experiment for
the manners in the first place. Like we got Solano,
everyone thought that he was gonna play second base until
they're like, oh no, he's going to be an opportunity
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at first base with Luke Raley, who then never really
played first base at all, They suck him in the outfield,
but to Leven at first play first base, and then
you know, they wanted to move Polanco over at third,
and that was the experiment that didn't really work. He
got hurt in the first the second game of the season,
so he hasn't really been there. Now he's playing second.
When it comes down to the infield, like, yeah, the
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man has got to figure it out and putting like
basically band aids on every position the midfield isn't going
to work. The only person who's set in stone is
JP Crawford. He knows he's going to be a short stop,
but you don't know who's going to be everywhere else.
You know, you got Cole Young and Ben Williamson there now,
but and Bill Ben Williamson is looking great. He doesn't
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have any pop though, he doesn't really like the fit
the norm of like a third baseman. But at the
end of the day, it's like, it's great that you
have these guys up here to develop and kind of
learn on the fly with Williamson and Cole Young. But
if that's the way you're going to go, then we
definitely need some power coming out on the first base,
coming out of first base, and you got Toelez who's
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going to either strike out a hit a home run.
And you got Tolano who is he heating up? But
neither one of them are going to be the key
to getting this team into the postseason. Like, you really
need to have a splash at one of those at
least one of those positions in the infield and first
base things to be the easiest one to have that splash,
to make a splash at.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No question about it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The late Gray John Feinstein wrote a book one time
about a sing You spent a single season covering the
Bobby Knight Indiana Hoosiers in like nineteen eighty six eighty seven,
and the title of that book was called Season on
the Brink. And I feel like I don't feel like
I'm being hyperbolic Tremaine by saying right now, this Mariner
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season is truly on the brink.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, a lot of what a lot of games left?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But you know what we you know, listen, it can
get it can get late early, if you know what
I mean, pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, But like, I don't really have an argument here, honestly,
this is just kind of like par for the course. Yes,
like when you look at the Maynor's roster. For me personally,
I know if I can speak for everyone else, but
for me, I get excited for baseball season because I'm
excited to go to the ballpark. I'm excited for the weather.
I'm excited to have a beer the game. Am I
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excited for the Manners to be playing postseason baseball? Like
I don't know, I don't know if I can look
at this lineup on opening Day and just be like, yeah,
I me be watching this team in the playoffs and
I think like if for those who like do look
at the lineup and think they we're gonna be like
watching a playoff team, Like we need like a reality
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check there. You know, this team is really good. They're
a really good fielding team. They're not the rangiest team,
they're not the team with the most pop. They're a
team that's kind of built on their pitching. And the
biggest question is what happens when those pitchers go down?
Is this lineup strong enough to write the ship or
keep the pitching afloat? Like there's no there's only a
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single point of failure on this team, and it relies
on the starting pitching. So once you're starting pitching is down,
like where do you go? And I mean, I think
that's just what we're looking.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
At, no question.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I think I think we're always just kind of hanging out.
We're just kind of hanging on a thread the whole
time because we've been lucky enough to have a healthy
pitching your patient for the last several years. And now
it's the gut check time and we don't really have
the resources to make up for what we've lost.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And it all goes back to that offseason when you
do nothing and you just we know it as well
as anybody. When you do the same thing over and
over again, expect different results. It's the definition of insanity.
And that's what Jerry Depoto did. And yet here we are. Hey,
tremain person, I gotta I just everybody please follow this
guy on Twitter. Uh look at check out his podcast.
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I'm glad you came on. Look forward to having you
on again. I like your insight, your and your nuanced approach.
And I appreciate the fact that you do not pull punches.
And yes, you can always say that Jeremy Piven opened
for you.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, I appreciate thanks for having me on that you.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Got it, Tremaine, say thanks man, have a great weekend.
Tremain person from Soto mojo dot com. Good stuff out
of him. And here we go. Oh one more thing.
I know we just said goodbye, Treman. I thought you
had a good laugh, probably to laugh at this. Here's
another thing. A Texter, I think it was justin might
have said this. You know, you want to know the
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difference between how the Diamondbacks are run and the Mariners
are run. This Sunday's Father's Day. All the guys, the
fathers are getting polos at Chase Field this Sunday at
t Mobile Park, they're getting free socks, polos or socks.
That says it all, all right? What do you say?
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Text of the day? Four nine four five one? What
did you think of the Jeremy Piven interview? And we'll
get to so much? What are you looking forward to
on the weekend? And do you feel that OKAC will
go down tonight? If they do that, I think the
series is over? Four nine four five one? What do
you say?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Text of the day? Next broad casting.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
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Now back Damn Jay the Midday on your home for
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Speaker 1 (19:05):
What do you say? Texts of the day? Four nine
four five one? How about this? Four two five A MJ.
Love the Jeremy Piven interview. I've always liked him. I
love that you mix up sports and a little bit
of nonsports stuff as well by having these guys on.
It was great. You're kind of like a variety show.
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Now all you need is a little song and dance
and you'll be set.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Song maybe no dance from me. That's you don't want
to see me dance, that's for sure. But yeah, listen, man,
at the end of the day, it's sports and it's entertainment,
right And and we had a great guest on Tremaine person.
But like, we got to mix it up. We got
to have entertainment and we get to sports. We get
a little bit of both. And I just think that
there's some you know, kind of cross pollination where you know,
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you know, I'm not gonna be talking about you know
who the the Seahawks four string punter is, you know,
on a daily basis. I mean, let's you know, I
want to be entertaining and I'm gonna you know, like,
there's a book that came out that's coming out at
June twenty fourth called Say Hello to the Bad Guys.
It's about how the nWo completely changed pop culture and
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I want to have that guy on. I'm fascinated and
how it did change pop culture because I remember every
bit of that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
This next one is from the three six. Oh, this
is nothing new the mayors, they're.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Just philm materials. By the way, kid, you read, can
you read the beginning just the way you did again?
I love the way you read it. Can you do
that again? You just do it the way you did it.
This is nothing new.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
The mayors are just filler material unto football season.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And you know what, We did a poll earlier the
week and I.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Asked you, I said, how much longer are you gonna
wait until you just lose faith? And I gave times.
I said all Star break, trade deadline, Seahawks preseason or
already given up and already given up one? And guess
how many people voted for already given up? Fifty four percent.
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It was beautiful, absolutely beautiful. From the three six to
oh the Mariners have not traded for a good bat
at the deadline in ten to twenty years. Common theme,
same ownership, They wouldn't do anything of note.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Sorry from the two five three manners are soul sucking?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
What else?
Speaker 7 (21:32):
What has to happen to change that?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, you gotta certainly put money into the product if
you want to win, and you if you fall short
of the playoffs and you think, well, we're just going
to run it back with the same lineup and we'll
add a guy who's thirty seven years old who's nothing
in Donovan Solano and another dude who looks like a
fat plumber that plays in a Sunday YMCA slow pitch
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softball league with the number sixty nine on the back
and rowdy Telez. You get what you paid for, You
get what you paid for. How about from the four
to two five? Of course the Mariners are gonna waste
Cal season. They wasted seasons with Griffy Edgar a, Rod Buhner,
and Randy all on the same team. They also wasted
each row in Felix. If I was Cal they don't
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make the playoffs next year, I would request a trade,
and I would have wasted talent. Look at last, given
their talent, their health, and what the pitching staff was
collectively being paid last year, there may have never been
a bigger waste in baseball history.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
I think you read this one, so I won't read
it first.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The beginning telling the beginning.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
It is bety under.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Of the air.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Is not this out of the two six regard that
the Seahawks were talking about, They're at eight to have wins.
If I'm not mistaken for Vegas odds, yep, Marcus said,
take the under thank me later.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Vegas just giving away money.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Marcus, I like it using the MJ. Bennett Now think
me later. I'll tell you right now, if you're willing
to put up two fifty to win one hundred, take
Okac on the money line tonight. They're not losing this game.
From the two h six, Antonio Brown needs Sean Sean
Kemp's lawyer. Initially they're both victims, but that doesn't mean
you can grab a gun and start shooting.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Ooh, you might be right on that man.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Hmm.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
This next one is from the I think it's no
from the four two five? Who was that guest on?
Pretty good insight. Hopefully you guys get them back.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Again tremainpersonsotomojo dot com. I thought he unlike he liked
cal Raley, and unlike just about every other player on
the Mariners, he hit it out of the park and
we will be getting him back on as much.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I you know, I just wanted to.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I loved his I've loved reading his articles, and he
he's very constructively critical, he's not afraid, he doesn't pull punches,
and I thought he was he was great. And thank
you for we appreciate you liking him, because we liked
him too. We thought he was great MJ. Come the
Angry Beaver tomorrow for Game five of the Stanley Cup
Finals at five pm. Brisket Playton Beers on me. Kid
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is welcome as well. Well, Kid, we can bring his
better half, his lovely wife. I am on a red
eye flight out tonight, so I will be gone the
next week.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Oh by the way, I just waiting season would I
can't make that?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And you know what, the great Greg Bell will be
in for me next week. We're working with kids, So
thank you to Greg Bell ahead of time. Greg Bell
couldn't be you know, a nicer, more respected man serve
this country, and he's smarter than all of us. He
went to West Point, so appreciate Craig Bell coming in
here next week.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Last one from me from the three six to oh,
I wish I could bet on the Mariners not picking
up a bat before the deadline on FanDuel, I bet
the farm Ryan and Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Uh. From the two five three Seahawks will finish third
or fourth in their division even with their easy.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Schedule and not make the playoffs. Two oh six.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Wife got me tickets to see Oasis at the Rose
Bowl this September stoked you followed Supersonic with Smack my
bleep up by Prodigy. If you throw in Chemical Brothers,
my head will explode. Don't have Chemical Brothers yet, Mark.
I'm not a Donald fan from the three six to oh,
but I'm a fan of good organizational setups and coaching.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Donald will be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Tom Brady would not have won titles with the Jets
or Panthers either, and from Garrett in the four two,
five to three few thank you, Leon Dreisidel had the
lot the Oilers plus one twenty five last night. Well
(26:11):
appreciate all you listening. And if you miss the Jeremy
Pivot interview or the tremain Person interview, Kid'll post those
very soon. They'll be up. You can find it where
you find podcasts, or they already are. Well not you
haven't done Tremaine yet because this hour is still going on.
But uh yes, uh, the Jeremy pivt already is. Oh
(26:31):
look at kid man, he's quick. He's quick. He's like
uh the Xavier worthy of producers. Very quick. All right,
last one, kid, I promise two oh six. Let's put
in the retrospect if the Mariners were professional wrestlers and
were the undertaker. They couldn't even win a casket match
against the one two three kid with the one two
(26:52):
three kid's hands behind his back. That's how predictable this
loser franchise is. It doesn't matter how much talent they have,
they will always find a way to waste it. Excellent
text right there. But I'll tell you what. Enjoy those
socks on Sunday. That is in a tremendous way to
(27:15):
show the fans that ownership and management truly appreciates you
paying your hard earned money to come through the turnstiles
at T Mobile Park. Socks on Father's Day, while the
Diamondbacks are getting polo shirts, we will speak to Ian Fernes.
Thanks again to the great Jeremy Piven and the great
Tremaine person for coming on today the mayor of Maple
(27:38):
Valley will talk about what happened last night and how
the Edmonton Oilers, uh oh, they just saved the series.
Next on MJ and the Midday Sports Radio ninety three
to three kJ are at them. Thank you to Jeremy Piven,
who will be at the Neptune Theater on July twuf
(28:00):
here in Seattle and uh Tremaine person from sodomojo dot
com Ian Furness. I'll tell you one thing I've learned
in this postseason, in both the NHL and NBA playoffs
is this that Leon.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Dry's side always clutch. He is clutch.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And and so is uh you know, Tyree, Saliburton's been
clutched so far, but Dry citle holy And it was
like after the game on what you turned me on
to sports nets Central, they interviewed him and he seemed
like he was mad.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
He's always mad, right, He's always mad like that, So
you want that, You want that with your guy.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You almost seem like well like like like the Law,
he was like like he was pissed that they didn't
finish it regularly.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Well, him and McDavid are so focused, Like it's just
I think the burden of not winning yet is just
on those guys, and I can see it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Do you know what they're gonna if? Okay, I pray
they do, but do you know if they pull this
thing off? Do you know what they're do? You know
what they're gonna experience? Not exultation and super instill, gonna
experience world.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Really if you really?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Yeah, oh absolutely yeah I mean, you know, when you're
one of the best players in any sport, in any game,
like winning is everything at some point because you've won
all the accolades, you've won everything you need to win
in terms of an individual so now you got to
win the whole thing. It's like, you know, every time
you watch inside the NBA, what's the thing that bugged
Barkley about not winning a title?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Right?
Speaker 8 (29:18):
And Top fifty Player of all time, Hall of Famer,
all those things, gold medalists, everything that he accomplished, but
he never raised Ilario O'Brien trophy. And that's that sticks
with him forever. You never raise the Stanley Cup as
a hockey player, that will always stay with you.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, I was thinking about this today.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
How about Jordan caused four top fifty players to not
win a ring Barkley, Stockton, Malone, and Ewing.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's unbelievable, like and there's probably there might be another.
Oh oh uh Peyton and kept well, those guys want
Peyton won with.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Miami Miami Camp didn't though, And did Malone win with
the LA No, they lost to the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh they did, okay? And five it's good.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They should have won and oh four, they were he
favored as much as okay season this series and they
lost to the Pistons and shocking because not only playing
in Utah.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
So yeah, that was well, Michael was just that. That's
you know when everyone has the debate about the great
you know, like the greatness of somebody. And I don't
know if you can always look at at championships, but
the bottom line is is Mike got to six finals
and won six finals, right, I mean he was perfect. Yeah,
that's remarkable, like and it wasn't just him. He doesn't
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do it without Scotty, but Scotty couldn't do without him,
and then later on Mike couldn't do without Scotty. But
Michael Jordan was we all know was was the greatest.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, don't forget Rodman packed it, John Paxson hit the shot.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Steve you know, I mean he had he had a
he had a supporting cast. But those guys also didn't
win when he went on his hiatus.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Right right, Sorry, Ian, something's in my eye gambling gambling
on my gambling. Exactly want you to go away for
a while back.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
In a couple of years, Yeah, I just you know,
I always wanted to play. Think about that he had
like a guy who just won three NBA titles. He's
hitting dispatch to the service of the prime's career. No
team in the NBA can touch him. You know what, man,
all these years, I just wanted to go I'm gonna
go play different sports.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Yeah, I'm just having to go away for a little while.
Or maybe they asked me to go away for a
little while. Yeah, pre draft, kings, pre uh all this
other stuff that, yeah, now that you can do, and
hell even probably probably basically back then there wasn't even
trible because you don't betting it was.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
It was strictly Vegas, right, they said, what he that
was legal? That was legal? What I'm talking about? Yeah,
I mean obviously he was doing other stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
When he would go to play the Nicks at Madison
Square Garden if they got they would always try to
go in the night before go to Atlantic City and
he'd be.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Gambling there to four or five in the morning. I
don't think Atlantic City had had sports books, No he
I don't. He was.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He was in the poke poke a blackjack, all that
high stakes rule the other stuff.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
But he was involved in some sports gambling, right like
that was the whole thing, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, well you know if it I was on sports though,
I thought it was just gambling.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It could have been.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
I don't think it was because otherwise, I mean, if
you just if you played poker blackjack, he's just lose
his own money doing that.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, but they care about that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
David Stern completely suppressed that thing. Man, he completely made
that thing go. Like they made sure you should probably
go away.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, I know you're Michael Jordan and all, but maybe
you should go away for a while.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But you know, one but you know one thing though
that he had to latch onto where I actually believed
it there was legitimate.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
His dad got murdered that summer. Yeah, that was I remember.
That was that was that was Did they ever evolved?
But they did it? No, right, there was never selling people. Yeah,
that was all speculation.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So where does this Stanley Cup? I know three out
of four games had been epic, not game three. Where
do is the rank so far? With you in the
first like first four.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
I can't even remember like the last five or six,
NBA or NHL five. I mean I'm trying to think.
I mean last year went seven. It did, but it
was three. Oh it was three to Oh that's the thing.
It didn't you know, you didn't really, yeah, so it
you know, last year went was three to zero, but
it went seven.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So was great. Year before is Vegas.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
I don't know how many games they won, and I
can't remember.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
So I was at twenty nineteen and Bruins Blues.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Well, you know, I like, I go back twenty eleven
the Canucks and Blackhawks is unbelievable. Was game seven, you know,
and Vancouver had that series and Boston came bustin, came
back and forced the game seven and then they blew
them out in Vancouver in Game seven.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So the Bruins, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great series.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
I mean, these two teams, it's well, now we know
it's going at least six yep, probably ends up going seven.
And it's two teams that are playing each other consecutive years.
It's kind of like Jazz Bowls right right in the
seven ninety eight. It's very similar to that. So now
there's like a lot of familiarity. It's the true rivaly
is built up, so there's a lot of that. You know,
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all those things come in, so that's right up. There
has to be right up there.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's awesome. I figured you you being a true hockey. Yeah,
I'm Joe historian. I'll just tell you that right now. No,
but you have an appreciation, yeah, no, and you have
a and you have a huge frame of well.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
I think what it is is it's anytime you have
any type of series that goes like if you have
rematches the you know, consecutive years, no matter the sport,
if you have a rematch consecutive years, and then you
have you know, more than a five or six game
more than five game series, right, That's that's that's pretty strong.
That's strong, right, I mean, that's strong. That's why you
go back. I mean, Jazz Bowls was unreal. It was awesome,
(34:40):
Like it was unreal, and you know, being in Utah
at the time, I mean, the anticipation leading up to
a possible rematch was unreal too.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
That was awesome. What's coming up on you? To only
to have the Brian Russell Jordan.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
By the way I watched it, he was already backing
up and it didn't it wasn't really, that wasn't a Heisman,
wasn't Derrick Henry Heisman trophy.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Stiff arm.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It was just a little he was going. Jordan had
him going backwards. Right, That's a call that anybody else
gets except for Mike.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Possible. Now I say that Coble, we would have got it.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
I say that Brian Russell did a weekly with me
down in Salt Lake, and I used to I used
to just poke them all the times, and I don't
at some point sometimes he thought it was funny. Most
of the time he didn't, but I I know he
was off balance, right, he was definitely off balance. Jordan
Ham uh Ian Fornest show.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Today, we got.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Danie O'Neil one twenty and we're gonna talk college athletics,
catch up with Stuart Mandel. Just got back to the country.
All this stuff going on in college athletics. Our guy
Stuart Mandel from Athletic who joins this weekly during the season. Like, yeah,
he's gonna join all right, that's a that's a great
action pack show.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
As always, Thanks again to Jeremy Pivens tremain person from
sodomojo dot com, Christopher Kidd, have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I will be out next week.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Greg Bell will be here and UH have a wonderful
weekend everybody, and UH stay tuned next for the man,
the Mayor of Maple Valley, Ian Ferness, right here on
night sports radio.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Now I need three three k j R f M
Of cal Raleigh, Tremaine person from Sodo Mojo joining us
here on MJ in the midday. Tremaine, you know, you
took the words right out of my mouth. And then
it seems like especially of the course of the last
seventeen games and after you know, going one in five
versus the Angels and Diamondbacks four and a.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Half out now the June swoon.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We all know what happened last year, Tremaine, but man,
could you imagine that? I mean, cal Raley could end
up with a fifty home run season and if the
Mariners don't make the playoffs, that's a major, major fail.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me, and you know,
I know that a lot of things can happen with
a schedule, but for me, like perspective wise, this will
always be the day that Jeremie Tevin opened for me.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tremade sre made. I love it, man. And by the way,
he's got this guy's got charisma. He did You're right man,
You're the you are You're the main he was the
app with Tier Tremaine. You're the main course, my man.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I appreciate this, but yeah, when you really think
about it or look at it. It's like, you know,
cal Rally, he got this big contract deal, right, and
we're all excited and there's a bunch of fan fare
for it, and when someone gets their bag sometimes you
can see, you know, a performance dip, and we got
(01:23):
the opposite from Cayl Rally right, So with his performance
right now, and then you think about the Mariners wanting
to have like a bunch of bounce back seasons from
Hawaii planco JP Crawford, et cetera, Luke Railey, We're not
really getting that. We're getting some pop from from Polanco
and it's great, But when it comes down to it,
cal Radley's playing out of his mind. He's a career
(01:45):
two twenty batter. He's bearing up a lot of balls.
He's performing, you know, he's gearing it. He's on pace
of hit sixty six more runs. You know, so wow,
No one would have thought that at this mark with
Kyle Riley, you know, getting twenty five home runs or
twenty six home runs, now, that you'd be seeing a
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Manner's team that's under five hundred. You know, nobody, I think,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, I agree, nobody would have thought that. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, So I mean there's a lot of I
do think there's like a little nuance to it. There's
a lot of factors that really aren't going the Manor's
way right now. You know, Logan Gilbert down, Bryce Miller
can't get his arm right. Brian wu who you know,
you could argue was the best picture in the rotation,
(02:37):
or at least have the potential to be the best.
He currently is the best picture in the rotation, and
half of them are wiped out, you know, So I
do think you got to kind of take those things
in account, Like no one expected Logan Evans to be
up right now, and pitching in the rotation, like just
multiple terms in the rotation. Emerson Hancock is like a
staple and a figure in the rotation right now. When
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it comes down to it, like the pitching is I think,
uh ranked, you know, half to the bottom half of
the league right now, So they're not even really the
Mariners are relying on a ton of run support that
they aren't really getting. You know. The batters can't really
bail out the pitching. So it's kind of a it's
(03:21):
kind of a double edged sword, so to speak. Some
situation in the manners right now tremain personally long wait question, No, no, no,
by the way, no, you got to read your article.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I enjoy your stuff sodomojo dot com. He also has
a podcast, Keep It Electric as well, so check that out,
which was founded in twenty twenty three. And I like
the word that you use, nuanced, because it's true. It's like,
I mean, you know, Tremaine, I just got here like
four and a half months ago. Well yeah, well yeah,
thank you. And you're are you new to Seattle to
(03:52):
or no, you've been here a while.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I moved here. I actually moved here the year that
they broke the streak, like I bought Susan Diggets, moved here,
went to all the home games, and you know it's
at the cow Roley game.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh okay, so you got to hear about three year
and three and a half years ago.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah okay, yeah, nice. Nice.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I mean you just look at this man, and
you know, like, let's go, let's turn the clock back
Tremaine to a year ago right now on June thirteenth,
twenty twenty four, and this team had, you know, a
nice lead over the Houston Astros. If you go back
Tremaine to June eighteenth. Do you know since then, since
(04:32):
June eighteenth of last year, the Mariners have only one
forty eight percent of their games.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, that's six percent low than fifty four right.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, yes, exactly, Yeah, the Jerry Depoto fifty four percent.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Exactly right.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, is that your question?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know, but you know, but it's just it's just
like what I'm saying, is that, like, what what's going
on that every June rolls around, you get to July,
the all start break, and here we go again.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, from you know, my
point of view, and some people may not agree with this,
but you know, the manors can't really they can't really
hit in their own park, y'all. Look at if you hit.
If you look at the Splits over the last several seasons,
they generally played better on the road, and it's kind
(05:23):
of it's kind of surprising. So, like you look at
all these gangers like JP Crawford has no problem hitting
in someone else's house, you know, and and that and
that kind of goes across the board when it comes
to the roster. But they're still trying to figure out
how to hit and tea mobile and it really doesn't
help that, you know, they moved the walls in like
years ago, so it doesn't help that they have a
(05:45):
really kind of short or small outfield, so they're not
really like they can't really put the ball in the
places that it needs to go. And then they also
can't hit it out of the park, so they're kind
of like screwed in their own home ballpark. And then
they go on the road and they kind of make
up for it. But then if you can't win for
the ro can't win on the road, you can't win
in someone else's house, then you're kind of like not
(06:07):
a good team that makes sense. Home cooking doesn't work,
winning on the road doesn't work, and now you get
stuck with the team that's underside hundred. Then you know,
on top of that, you don't really like this is
a team that lived and died by the home run ball,
so to speak. They're not really big at clutch hitting.
You'll get a clutch hit out of a rose arena
(06:28):
late in the ball game, but for the most part,
it's kind of like the same recipe. This is a
team that you know, leaves a lot of renas on base,
and this is a team that when they win a game,
it's usually because they hit multiple home runs. And that's
kind of all you get out of like at least
from the offensive part of Mayors Baseball.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Very well said. And you know what too, Treman. I
was looking at this, I called them, and you feel free.
You can you can use this, I say the lob
and Seattle's back, but instead of legion of boom and
stands for left on base and tremain in thirteen losses
in their last seventeen games, and those thirteen losses, they
left ninety three runners on base. Wednesday against the Diamondbacks,
(07:11):
they were one for twelve at runners in scoring position.
In those thirteen losses. They're twenty for twenty two with
runners in scoring position for a one fifty eight average.
That is not gonna get you to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
My friend, oh got at all?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And so what does Jerry Depoto do now? Is what
I'm asking, Like, what is what can you do?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But do you like?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
My thing is like you're gonna have to part with
it one of those arms. I don't know if it's Hancock, Pryce, Miller,
You're not gonna get much for right now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't know if it's Logan Evans, You're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Part with one of those guys and one of your
you know, starting nine, and you're gonna have to go
out and you know maybe and you know, you look
at like the team they just played, How nice would
have been you spend You could have got Josh Naylor
coming off an All Star season for eleven million dollars. Instead,
you spend five million dollars on two guys who couldn't
(08:07):
hit water if they fill out of a boat, Rowdy
t Lez and Donovan Solano.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And it's just like.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And then all right, Vargas, fine, But imagine if this
team still had Eugenio Suarez right with the season he's having.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I just I just had a piece hit this morning
about that exact situation. It's a piece about how the
Manors should acquire Josh Naylor. But in the opening part
of that piece, I said something around the lines of,
you know, this past series against the Diamondbacks was symbolic.
It was it was a display of what they let
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go with Suarez hitting a Grand Slam in Game one,
and then right on the end of that was a
display of a player that they never had the guts
to go out and get in Josh Naylor hitting a
grand slam. I mean, like the whole series kind of
told a story between those two conversations, the conversations of
letting Geno go and the conversations of failing to acquire Naylor.
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The thing is Naylor is like, it's not off the table,
and neither is Swarz. I mean, going into that series,
like the Diamondbacks were under five hundred, they don't really honestly,
they don't really have a shot at the nl West.
They have a bunch of inspiring contracts coming up. It
would be really strange to see them as buyers at
the trade deadline. At the rate that the Dodgers, Pogis
(09:30):
and Giants are going, that's a three headed monster up there.
It's unlikely that they're going to catch up. So like
Naylor's not off the table, Swords is not off the table,
and the Diamondbacks is I'm going to spind on this
one for a second, but the Diamondbacks have like a
crapshoot of arms. They lost Corbyn Burns, they really need arms.
So a deal between the Diamondbacks and the Manners actually
(09:53):
makes a ton of sense when you look at it,
and they've also done deals with four. So to bring
it back with you talking about them moving a member
of the starting rotation, I think would be likely if
they were all healthy. I think it would be really
strange for them to move one of their arms, if
you know, Kirby's not back in the far form, if
(10:14):
you know, as long as Gilbert doesn't have any setbacks
when he returns, and if Bryce Mayer can get his
arm back, like sure, I think you got like a
nice like number five starter or in uh Logan Evans
or Emerson Hancock. I don't know how much Emerson Hancock
could like attract on the market right now. I definitely
think he's like a he deserves to be in a
(10:36):
starting rotation somewhere. I think the Manners might be one
of the only rotations that like couldn't use the Emerson
Hancock if that makes sense. But to acquire a guy
like Josh Neiler, especially performing the way that he's calling,
you know, it's going to take a haul, you know.
And I don't think any team is going to just
(10:57):
like kind of hand over a slugger like if you
want to do with the Manners like the man they're
going to force the marriage to come correct, and that
means someone like a Castillo or one of those you know,
top rotation arms to get an actual deal done. Because
every team knows how bad they need bats right now.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Do you think that they would have to also include
Harry Ford or Lazaro Montes or that too much?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I think it would be foolish. Okay, Okay, yeah, I
think that would be foolish. I know a lot of
people you know, like to talk about Harry Ford getting moved,
and I mean like it's likely or it's possible, but like,
I don't really see that happening. I think more or
less like the mayors want to get out from under
Mitch Garber and then Harry Forward kind of sit in
(11:41):
behind Raleigh and help, you know, take Riley off, help
take Riley off his feet a little bit at the
catch a position he can just you know feel in
at dight at times.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But honestly, like at this rate, it does seem like
the hot seat, like Jerry Depose is approaching the hot seat,
and if he wants to keep his job, he might
have to somebody like a Harry Ford of Montes. But
those are two really prime prize possessions in the farm
Montes is actually ridiculous. He looks like the next JR.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Navel is Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I know, I know he's got some pop man, that's
it and that and he might he could.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean I've even seen he could even be better
than him. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Mean he's like he's a lot more disciplined at the
plate than he used to be. He's just soaring up
the Baseball America charts with this performance right now. So like,
I don't know, if someone wants the pri Montes out
of the man's farm like it, I would want I
would want someone better than Josh Naylor even to be honest,
(12:40):
like that's just my preference because that's given up a
lot to give up Montese.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, yeah, that's true. That's uh yeah yeah, I Naylor.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You just look at it and you're like, you know,
tremain person here from sodomojo dot com, And you look
at like if they just done something in the off seasons,
which is what Justin turned or talked about, they had
just tried and listen, all right, Paul, there's no way
I can tell you. And and you know, Pete Lonzo
was not coming here. A lot of guys don't want
(13:10):
to come here because it's not a heat hitters ballpark,
all right, Goldschmith, Christian Walker.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But Josh Kneeler that was attainable. He was an attainable.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Guy, right, Yeah, absolutely, And especially with the market, the
market for first baseman this pass off season, it's kind
of foolish. I mean, when do you kind of look
at it? Like the infield was a giant experiment for
the manners in the first place. Like we got Solano,
everyone thought that he was gonna play second base until
they're like, oh no, he's going to be an opportunity
(13:38):
at first base with Luke Raley, who then never really
played first base at all, They suck him in the outfield,
but to Leven at first play first base, and then
you know, they wanted to move Polanco over at third,
and that was the experiment that didn't really work. He
got hurt in the first the second game of the season,
so he hasn't really been there. Now he's playing second.
When it comes down to the infield, like, yeah, the
(13:58):
man has got to figure it out and putting like
basically band aids on every position the midfield isn't going
to work. The only person who's set in stone is
JP Crawford. He knows he's going to be a short stop,
but you don't know who's going to be everywhere else.
You know, you got Cole Young and Ben Williamson there now,
but and Bill Ben Williamson is looking great. He doesn't
(14:18):
have any pop though, he doesn't really like the fit
the norm of like a third baseman. But at the
end of the day, it's like, it's great that you
have these guys up here to develop and kind of
learn on the fly with Williamson and Cole Young. But
if that's the way you're going to go, then we
definitely need some power coming out on the first base,
coming out of first base, and you got Toelez who's
(14:39):
going to either strike out a hit a home run.
And you got Tolano who is he heating up? But
neither one of them are going to be the key
to getting this team into the postseason. Like, you really
need to have a splash at one of those at
least one of those positions in the infield and first
base things to be the easiest one to have that splash,
to make a splash at.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No question about it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The late Gray John Feinstein wrote a book one time
about a sing You spent a single season covering the
Bobby Knight Indiana Hoosiers in like nineteen eighty six eighty seven,
and the title of that book was called Season on
the Brink. And I feel like I don't feel like
I'm being hyperbolic Tremaine by saying right now, this Mariner
(15:20):
season is truly on the brink.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, a lot of what a lot of games left?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But you know what we you know, listen, it can
get it can get late early, if you know what
I mean, pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, But like, I don't really have an argument here, honestly,
this is just kind of like par for the course. Yes,
like when you look at the Maynor's roster. For me personally,
I know if I can speak for everyone else, but
for me, I get excited for baseball season because I'm
excited to go to the ballpark. I'm excited for the weather.
I'm excited to have a beer the game. Am I
(16:00):
excited for the Manners to be playing postseason baseball? Like
I don't know, I don't know if I can look
at this lineup on opening Day and just be like, yeah,
I me be watching this team in the playoffs and
I think like if for those who like do look
at the lineup and think they we're gonna be like
watching a playoff team, Like we need like a reality
(16:21):
check there. You know, this team is really good. They're
a really good fielding team. They're not the rangiest team,
they're not the team with the most pop. They're a
team that's kind of built on their pitching. And the
biggest question is what happens when those pitchers go down?
Is this lineup strong enough to write the ship or
keep the pitching afloat? Like there's no there's only a
(16:44):
single point of failure on this team, and it relies
on the starting pitching. So once you're starting pitching is down,
like where do you go? And I mean, I think
that's just what we're looking.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
At, no question.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I think I think we're always just kind of hanging out.
We're just kind of hanging on a thread the whole
time because we've been lucky enough to have a healthy
pitching your patient for the last several years. And now
it's the gut check time and we don't really have
the resources to make up for what we've lost.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And it all goes back to that offseason when you
do nothing and you just we know it as well
as anybody. When you do the same thing over and
over again, expect different results. It's the definition of insanity.
And that's what Jerry Depoto did. And yet here we are. Hey,
tremain person, I gotta I just everybody please follow this
guy on Twitter. Uh look at check out his podcast.
(17:29):
I'm glad you came on. Look forward to having you
on again. I like your insight, your and your nuanced approach.
And I appreciate the fact that you do not pull punches.
And yes, you can always say that Jeremy Piven opened
for you.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, I appreciate thanks for having me on that you.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Got it, Tremaine, say thanks man, have a great weekend.
Tremain person from Soto mojo dot com. Good stuff out
of him. And here we go. Oh one more thing.
I know we just said goodbye, Treman. I thought you
had a good laugh, probably to laugh at this. Here's
another thing. A Texter, I think it was justin might
have said this. You know, you want to know the
(18:06):
difference between how the Diamondbacks are run and the Mariners
are run. This Sunday's Father's Day. All the guys, the
fathers are getting polos at Chase Field this Sunday at
t Mobile Park, they're getting free socks, polos or socks.
That says it all, all right? What do you say?
(18:27):
Text of the day? Four nine four five one? What
did you think of the Jeremy Piven interview? And we'll
get to so much? What are you looking forward to
on the weekend? And do you feel that OKAC will
go down tonight? If they do that, I think the
series is over? Four nine four five one? What do
you say?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Text of the day? Next broad casting.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back Damn Jay the Midday on your home for
the Huskies, Kraken and Sounders Sports Radio ninety three point
three j R F M.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What do you say? Texts of the day? Four nine
four five one? How about this? Four two five A MJ.
Love the Jeremy Piven interview. I've always liked him. I
love that you mix up sports and a little bit
of nonsports stuff as well by having these guys on.
It was great. You're kind of like a variety show.
(19:26):
Now all you need is a little song and dance
and you'll be set.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Song maybe no dance from me. That's you don't want
to see me dance, that's for sure. But yeah, listen, man,
at the end of the day, it's sports and it's entertainment,
right And and we had a great guest on Tremaine person.
But like, we got to mix it up. We got
to have entertainment and we get to sports. We get
a little bit of both. And I just think that
there's some you know, kind of cross pollination where you know,
(19:56):
you know, I'm not gonna be talking about you know
who the the Seahawks four string punter is, you know,
on a daily basis. I mean, let's you know, I
want to be entertaining and I'm gonna you know, like,
there's a book that came out that's coming out at
June twenty fourth called Say Hello to the Bad Guys.
It's about how the nWo completely changed pop culture and
(20:19):
I want to have that guy on. I'm fascinated and
how it did change pop culture because I remember every
bit of that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
This next one is from the three six. Oh, this
is nothing new the mayors, they're.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Just philm materials. By the way, kid, you read, can
you read the beginning just the way you did again?
I love the way you read it. Can you do
that again? You just do it the way you did it.
This is nothing new.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
The mayors are just filler material unto football season.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And you know what, We did a poll earlier the
week and I.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Asked you, I said, how much longer are you gonna
wait until you just lose faith? And I gave times.
I said all Star break, trade deadline, Seahawks preseason or
already given up and already given up one? And guess
how many people voted for already given up? Fifty four percent.
(21:15):
It was beautiful, absolutely beautiful. From the three six to
oh the Mariners have not traded for a good bat
at the deadline in ten to twenty years. Common theme,
same ownership, They wouldn't do anything of note.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Sorry from the two five three manners are soul sucking?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
What else?
Speaker 7 (21:32):
What has to happen to change that?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, you gotta certainly put money into the product if
you want to win, and you if you fall short
of the playoffs and you think, well, we're just going
to run it back with the same lineup and we'll
add a guy who's thirty seven years old who's nothing
in Donovan Solano and another dude who looks like a
fat plumber that plays in a Sunday YMCA slow pitch
(22:00):
softball league with the number sixty nine on the back
and rowdy Telez. You get what you paid for, You
get what you paid for. How about from the four
to two five? Of course the Mariners are gonna waste
Cal season. They wasted seasons with Griffy Edgar a, Rod Buhner,
and Randy all on the same team. They also wasted
each row in Felix. If I was Cal they don't
(22:22):
make the playoffs next year, I would request a trade,
and I would have wasted talent. Look at last, given
their talent, their health, and what the pitching staff was
collectively being paid last year, there may have never been
a bigger waste in baseball history.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
I think you read this one, so I won't read
it first.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The beginning telling the beginning.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
It is bety under.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Of the air.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Is not this out of the two six regard that
the Seahawks were talking about, They're at eight to have wins.
If I'm not mistaken for Vegas odds, yep, Marcus said,
take the under thank me later.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Vegas just giving away money.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Marcus, I like it using the MJ. Bennett Now think
me later. I'll tell you right now, if you're willing
to put up two fifty to win one hundred, take
Okac on the money line tonight. They're not losing this game.
From the two h six, Antonio Brown needs Sean Sean
Kemp's lawyer. Initially they're both victims, but that doesn't mean
you can grab a gun and start shooting.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Ooh, you might be right on that man.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Hmm.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
This next one is from the I think it's no
from the four two five? Who was that guest on?
Pretty good insight. Hopefully you guys get them back.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Again tremainpersonsotomojo dot com. I thought he unlike he liked
cal Raley, and unlike just about every other player on
the Mariners, he hit it out of the park and
we will be getting him back on as much.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I you know, I just wanted to.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I loved his I've loved reading his articles, and he
he's very constructively critical, he's not afraid, he doesn't pull punches,
and I thought he was he was great. And thank
you for we appreciate you liking him, because we liked
him too. We thought he was great MJ. Come the
Angry Beaver tomorrow for Game five of the Stanley Cup
Finals at five pm. Brisket Playton Beers on me. Kid
(24:28):
is welcome as well. Well, Kid, we can bring his
better half, his lovely wife. I am on a red
eye flight out tonight, so I will be gone the
next week.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Oh by the way, I just waiting season would I
can't make that?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And you know what, the great Greg Bell will be
in for me next week. We're working with kids, So
thank you to Greg Bell ahead of time. Greg Bell
couldn't be you know, a nicer, more respected man serve
this country, and he's smarter than all of us. He
went to West Point, so appreciate Craig Bell coming in
here next week.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Last one from me from the three six to oh,
I wish I could bet on the Mariners not picking
up a bat before the deadline on FanDuel, I bet
the farm Ryan and Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Uh. From the two five three Seahawks will finish third
or fourth in their division even with their easy.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Schedule and not make the playoffs. Two oh six.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Wife got me tickets to see Oasis at the Rose
Bowl this September stoked you followed Supersonic with Smack my
bleep up by Prodigy. If you throw in Chemical Brothers,
my head will explode. Don't have Chemical Brothers yet, Mark.
I'm not a Donald fan from the three six to oh,
but I'm a fan of good organizational setups and coaching.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Donald will be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Tom Brady would not have won titles with the Jets
or Panthers either, and from Garrett in the four two,
five to three few thank you, Leon Dreisidel had the
lot the Oilers plus one twenty five last night. Well
(26:11):
appreciate all you listening. And if you miss the Jeremy
Pivot interview or the tremain Person interview, Kid'll post those
very soon. They'll be up. You can find it where
you find podcasts, or they already are. Well not you
haven't done Tremaine yet because this hour is still going on.
But uh yes, uh, the Jeremy pivt already is. Oh
(26:31):
look at kid man, he's quick. He's quick. He's like
uh the Xavier worthy of producers. Very quick. All right,
last one, kid, I promise two oh six. Let's put
in the retrospect if the Mariners were professional wrestlers and
were the undertaker. They couldn't even win a casket match
against the one two three kid with the one two
(26:52):
three kid's hands behind his back. That's how predictable this
loser franchise is. It doesn't matter how much talent they have,
they will always find a way to waste it. Excellent
text right there. But I'll tell you what. Enjoy those
socks on Sunday. That is in a tremendous way to
(27:15):
show the fans that ownership and management truly appreciates you
paying your hard earned money to come through the turnstiles
at T Mobile Park. Socks on Father's Day, while the
Diamondbacks are getting polo shirts, we will speak to Ian Fernes.
Thanks again to the great Jeremy Piven and the great
Tremaine person for coming on today the mayor of Maple
(27:38):
Valley will talk about what happened last night and how
the Edmonton Oilers, uh oh, they just saved the series.
Next on MJ and the Midday Sports Radio ninety three
to three kJ are at them. Thank you to Jeremy Piven,
who will be at the Neptune Theater on July twuf
(28:00):
here in Seattle and uh Tremaine person from sodomojo dot
com Ian Furness. I'll tell you one thing I've learned
in this postseason, in both the NHL and NBA playoffs
is this that Leon.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Dry's side always clutch. He is clutch.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And and so is uh you know, Tyree, Saliburton's been
clutched so far, but Dry citle holy And it was
like after the game on what you turned me on
to sports nets Central, they interviewed him and he seemed
like he was mad.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
He's always mad, right, He's always mad like that, So
you want that, You want that with your guy.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You almost seem like well like like like the Law,
he was like like he was pissed that they didn't
finish it regularly.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Well, him and McDavid are so focused, Like it's just
I think the burden of not winning yet is just
on those guys, and I can see it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Do you know what they're gonna if? Okay, I pray
they do, but do you know if they pull this
thing off? Do you know what they're do? You know
what they're gonna experience? Not exultation and super instill, gonna
experience world.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Really if you really?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Yeah, oh absolutely yeah I mean, you know, when you're
one of the best players in any sport, in any game,
like winning is everything at some point because you've won
all the accolades, you've won everything you need to win
in terms of an individual so now you got to
win the whole thing. It's like, you know, every time
you watch inside the NBA, what's the thing that bugged
Barkley about not winning a title?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Right?
Speaker 8 (29:18):
And Top fifty Player of all time, Hall of Famer,
all those things, gold medalists, everything that he accomplished, but
he never raised Ilario O'Brien trophy. And that's that sticks
with him forever. You never raise the Stanley Cup as
a hockey player, that will always stay with you.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, I was thinking about this today.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
How about Jordan caused four top fifty players to not
win a ring Barkley, Stockton, Malone, and Ewing.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's unbelievable, like and there's probably there might be another.
Oh oh uh Peyton and kept well, those guys want
Peyton won with.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Miami Miami Camp didn't though, And did Malone win with
the LA No, they lost to the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh they did, okay? And five it's good.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They should have won and oh four, they were he
favored as much as okay season this series and they
lost to the Pistons and shocking because not only playing
in Utah.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
So yeah, that was well, Michael was just that. That's
you know when everyone has the debate about the great
you know, like the greatness of somebody. And I don't
know if you can always look at at championships, but
the bottom line is is Mike got to six finals
and won six finals, right, I mean he was perfect. Yeah,
that's remarkable, like and it wasn't just him. He doesn't
(30:29):
do it without Scotty, but Scotty couldn't do without him,
and then later on Mike couldn't do without Scotty. But
Michael Jordan was we all know was was the greatest.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, don't forget Rodman packed it, John Paxson hit the shot.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Steve you know, I mean he had he had a
he had a supporting cast. But those guys also didn't
win when he went on his hiatus.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Right right, Sorry, Ian, something's in my eye gambling gambling
on my gambling. Exactly want you to go away for
a while back.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
In a couple of years, Yeah, I just you know,
I always wanted to play. Think about that he had
like a guy who just won three NBA titles. He's
hitting dispatch to the service of the prime's career. No
team in the NBA can touch him. You know what, man,
all these years, I just wanted to go I'm gonna
go play different sports.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Yeah, I'm just having to go away for a little while.
Or maybe they asked me to go away for a
little while. Yeah, pre draft, kings, pre uh all this
other stuff that, yeah, now that you can do, and
hell even probably probably basically back then there wasn't even
trible because you don't betting it was.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
It was strictly Vegas, right, they said, what he that
was legal? That was legal? What I'm talking about? Yeah,
I mean obviously he was doing other stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
When he would go to play the Nicks at Madison
Square Garden if they got they would always try to
go in the night before go to Atlantic City and
he'd be.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Gambling there to four or five in the morning. I
don't think Atlantic City had had sports books, No he
I don't. He was.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He was in the poke poke a blackjack, all that
high stakes rule the other stuff.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
But he was involved in some sports gambling, right like
that was the whole thing, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, well you know if it I was on sports though,
I thought it was just gambling.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It could have been.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
I don't think it was because otherwise, I mean, if
you just if you played poker blackjack, he's just lose
his own money doing that.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, but they care about that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
David Stern completely suppressed that thing. Man, he completely made
that thing go. Like they made sure you should probably
go away.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, I know you're Michael Jordan and all, but maybe
you should go away for a while.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But you know, one but you know one thing though
that he had to latch onto where I actually believed
it there was legitimate.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
His dad got murdered that summer. Yeah, that was I remember.
That was that was that was Did they ever evolved?
But they did it? No, right, there was never selling people. Yeah,
that was all speculation.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So where does this Stanley Cup? I know three out
of four games had been epic, not game three. Where
do is the rank so far? With you in the
first like first four.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
I can't even remember like the last five or six,
NBA or NHL five. I mean I'm trying to think.
I mean last year went seven. It did, but it
was three. Oh it was three to Oh that's the thing.
It didn't you know, you didn't really, yeah, so it
you know, last year went was three to zero, but
it went seven.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So was great. Year before is Vegas.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
I don't know how many games they won, and I
can't remember.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
So I was at twenty nineteen and Bruins Blues.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Well, you know, I like, I go back twenty eleven
the Canucks and Blackhawks is unbelievable. Was game seven, you know,
and Vancouver had that series and Boston came bustin, came
back and forced the game seven and then they blew
them out in Vancouver in Game seven.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So the Bruins, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great series.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
I mean, these two teams, it's well, now we know
it's going at least six yep, probably ends up going seven.
And it's two teams that are playing each other consecutive years.
It's kind of like Jazz Bowls right right in the
seven ninety eight. It's very similar to that. So now
there's like a lot of familiarity. It's the true rivaly
is built up, so there's a lot of that. You know,
(34:07):
all those things come in, so that's right up. There
has to be right up there.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's awesome. I figured you you being a true hockey. Yeah,
I'm Joe historian. I'll just tell you that right now. No,
but you have an appreciation, yeah, no, and you have
a and you have a huge frame of well.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
I think what it is is it's anytime you have
any type of series that goes like if you have
rematches the you know, consecutive years, no matter the sport,
if you have a rematch consecutive years, and then you
have you know, more than a five or six game
more than five game series, right, That's that's that's pretty strong.
That's strong, right, I mean, that's strong. That's why you
go back. I mean, Jazz Bowls was unreal. It was awesome,
(34:40):
Like it was unreal, and you know, being in Utah
at the time, I mean, the anticipation leading up to
a possible rematch was unreal too.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
That was awesome. What's coming up on you? To only
to have the Brian Russell Jordan.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
By the way I watched it, he was already backing
up and it didn't it wasn't really, that wasn't a Heisman,
wasn't Derrick Henry Heisman trophy.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Stiff arm.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It was just a little he was going. Jordan had
him going backwards. Right, That's a call that anybody else
gets except for Mike.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Possible. Now I say that Coble, we would have got it.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
I say that Brian Russell did a weekly with me
down in Salt Lake, and I used to I used
to just poke them all the times, and I don't
at some point sometimes he thought it was funny. Most
of the time he didn't, but I I know he
was off balance, right, he was definitely off balance. Jordan
Ham uh Ian Fornest show.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Today, we got.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Danie O'Neil one twenty and we're gonna talk college athletics,
catch up with Stuart Mandel. Just got back to the country.
All this stuff going on in college athletics. Our guy
Stuart Mandel from Athletic who joins this weekly during the season. Like, yeah,
he's gonna join all right, that's a that's a great
action pack show.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
As always, Thanks again to Jeremy Pivens tremain person from
sodomojo dot com, Christopher Kidd, have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I will be out next week.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Greg Bell will be here and UH have a wonderful
weekend everybody, and UH stay tuned next for the man,
the Mayor of Maple Valley, Ian Ferness, right here on
night sports radio.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Now I need three three k j R f M
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