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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half
Chelsea on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This episode coming up on this episode of the weedone podcast.
It was a very busy weekend for us. We got
to meet many people that listen to this podcast. Yes,
and we dropped off Luke for year number two. Did
Chelsea cry? It's always a big thing in our house
of Chelsea cries. We document it. It's only been like
(00:41):
a handful of times. We will talk about it on
this podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh what a week. What a week. We had our
More Mojo pod cast live, More Mojo Live podcast, whatever
the help we call it. We did a I hope
you will know what you call it. It's more Mojo podcast,
but it was more Mojo Live. I don't know what
it was, but we did it at the Imagine Theater,
(01:22):
which is big theater chain in our area. Very nice people,
Paul Glans, Anthony la Verde, the entire staff there, Nick Thomas,
Karen I saw Karen Thomas was there, which is Nick's wife. Yes,
it was very awkward to swear in front of Karen
because she's like the virgin Mary she is. But it
(01:45):
was it was how neat was it for you to
actually meet some people that listened to the podcast? Actually
a lot. It's great.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, it was actually very nice. Everyone that came up
and said they listened to the podcast and they can
relate to it and thank you, and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It was nice. People were thanking you for your brutal honesty.
That's what people are like, thank you for your brutal honesty.
Which is funny because a radio friend of mine, Danny Chekolinski,
sent me a note saying, Chelsea's brutal honesty or you're
such a bullshitter that you have to correct you.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Both both both both. Yeah, it was good. It was
a lot of fun, A lot of fun on Friday night.
I didn't think I was going to have a lot
of fun.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But I don't want to go.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I did not want to go. I just typically don't
go to these things. And I am such a homebody
and much rather be at home with the boys or
at home alone.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And I had a good time. Were you always a homebody?
Or was it that when we first got into radio together?
When I say together, because Honestly, you and I kind
of grew up together and I was doing this thing.
Is it that it's different than it ever was?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Well, I so you've been in radio since you were eighteen, right, yeap,
And so when I met you, you were twenty and
I was seventeen, just graduated from high school. And I literally, yes,
also grew up in this and it was so much
different back then. You know, you and I were talking
about it the other day that it was there was
(03:21):
no social media, and so it was. And really then
when you did nights and then afternoons and then finally
mornings when you got married, you really didn't When you
were doing nights and afternoon you really didn't talk about
having a girlfriend or like it was not that you
(03:42):
were hiding it, but it wasn't so much talking about
your personal life.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It was just basically.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Introducing a record like it just really, so when we
then got married, then it was a little bit more
talking about our personal lives.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But and then I started doing mornings when we got married.
I think it was mornings that made it make it
more more about your personal life.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Well, right, for sure, But I didn't know what I
was getting into when I started dating you.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I didn't know that this is what it was going
to be, that my whole life was going to be
played out behind you know, a speaker, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So it was, it's been, it's been interesting. Is it's wild.
It's actually kind of interesting because I noticed that some
people you know that are have dated that are part
of our you know, show or been part of the
show over time. Some people hate it, and then their
relationships honestly don't necessarily last. It seems like very long.
(04:45):
And then there are some people that get way into it,
almost to a point where they really love it. Yea.
They want to actually be.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Be a part of the show. Yeah yeah, be a character.
Yeah yeah. I I I think I've always really, I
have stayed behind the scenes. I haven't wanted to really
be a character or be so much a part of
the show. And so I really that's another reason why
I never really came.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Also, is I felt that this is this was your
job and if you were a banker, Am I going
to go sit with you at the bank and as you.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Help your customer? No?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You know, like I felt that there was very much
a divide that we had a personal family life, and
then you know, you had your job, so I wasn't
I would come to things, and I'd bring the boys
to things every once in a while, but it wasn't
a huge part of.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
My identity or.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You know, my identity was more or less being the
mom staying home raising the kids, and I loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
There was a period. It was funny because in Arizona,
when you know, we uh, you know, first got married
and had kids. You would come to an event. And
if you came to an event and the kids came
to an event. I remember Betsy was my co host
and she'd be, oh my god, like she get excited, yeah,
because she hadn't seen you in such a long time.
(06:09):
I hadn't seen the kids, right, And there were obviously
wasn't that social media, so you didn't see the growth
of the kids. And then there was a time when
we moved to Detroit, and you know that was when
you know, twenty almost twenty five years ago, we started,
you know, started you know, doing this thing. Yep, you
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didn't even know where the radio station was. There was
there was a time where I had to send you
the address of the radio station.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Again where he right, But again it was because I
just stayed home and that was like, yeah, I was
raising the kids like that was my thing. It was
we kind of we invited people from the radio station
every once in a while to the house, but I
didn't really go in or.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Go to events.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And truly, you were starting a new show, and so
your whole life revolved a direct fund work and you know,
trying to bring the show because you, I mean, nobody
knew who Mojo in the Morning was twenty five years ago,
and so you had to work your magic and really
(07:15):
get to know the people of Detroit and get to
know Detroit itself. And I gladly stayed home and say
with the older two boys at that point, and yeah,
I am, but I am more of a homebody. I
think back to that whole thing. I definitely like to
be in my little space for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, you're also one too that because of the time constraints,
probably most mostly on what my job entails. You're one
where when I'm not working, you really want no like
you would like if my phone's always been my problem
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one of them, and also always working and always thinking
about work. So for you, an amazing thing for you
is to get an escape completely from radio, So coming
to one of our radio functions or promotions or whatever
and being there and you know hanging out to you
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is more work for.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Me, well, I because I feel like you have to
then worry about what I'm doing and making sure I'm
taken care of and really truly when you were at
these events, even the most independent people too, like I felt,
you know, it's not our place to be there.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's work.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Again, if you are working in a bank, am I
going to come in there and sit next to you
while you're dealing with your customers? Answer to that is no,
And I always felt like it was now, but this
is a different kind of job, right, So it's not
you're not working at a bank. But I think there's
a time and place for me. And I'm just speaking
(08:59):
for myself.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Again, I'm a very I love to be at home,
so it doesn't bother me not going.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It doesn't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And there were years that I just didn't go because
I didn't go, you know, we weren't in a good
place for me to go. But even being in a
good place, I'm still just okay being home now. Having
said that, Friday night was amazing. I had a lot
of fun. And it was great meeting listeners who really
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appreciated the podcast, and it was great.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I loved I really loved seeing you there. I loved
having you up on stage. The reaction of people was amazing.
I think people know that you're pretty real, like you're well,
that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
That's that is the comment I get all the time,
whether it's direct message or people meeting me in person.
It's just thank you for being so real, thank you
for being so honest, which a lot of people didn't
like my honesty and realness, you know years and the
path on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, you know, I think once.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
To me for sure, and I and I am sometimes
but I think that it's you know, but it's deserved.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But there are there you go. I actually enjoy it.
I do, Okay, it'd be nice for her to, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And there are times that I wish you would put
your phone down, and there are times that I wish
that you would, you know, do things as well. But
here we are, you know, it's kind of a little
cycle that we have, you know, someone has to break it.
But and I lost my train of thought, but it
was it was a lot of fun. I have Oh yeah, yeah,
So I just I am who I am. You know,
(10:47):
I have a hard time pretending to be someone that
I'm not, and so either you love it or you don't,
and I I really don't because I have no one
to impress, Like that's the beauty of also the age
that I am. I think you realize that life is
short and you spend you know, a certain amount of
time trying like worried about oh my gosh, will this
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person like me? Or what if I need to wear
this or I need to do this, But at the
end of the day, no, you don't, because the only
person need to be happy with is yourself. If you're
happy with yourself, then that's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We tell the story about she was a younger listener.
I mean she was probably I'm guessing in her twenties,
came up to you, introduce yourself to you, and within
her name.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh yeah, I'm going to mess up her name, which
makes me so you can just say her name was Chelsea, Okay,
so let yeah, because I don't want to anyway. So
it was a young girl, and I want to say
it was her mother or her older sister. So excuse
me if I'm getting this wrong. But they came up
(11:51):
and they introduced themselves, and the one let's and we'll
say her name is Chelsea, and she's my name is Chelsea,
and her mother then said, no, actually her name is
let's say chelseaa. And she goes, yeah, but it's just
so easy. It's easier to say Chelsea. And I said, well,
(12:14):
your name is beautiful, you know, Chelsea, so you should
when someone says it. She's like, but it's you know,
easier because people will say it wrong. And so I
just say Chelsea. And I said, you know what, then
you need to just kindly say to them it's actually,
you know, Chelsea, and or if I'm getting it wrong, whatever,
(12:36):
and because now it's confusing, and and she, you know,
started to cry and you could just tell and I said,
you've got to be so proud and so happy with
who you are. You are such a beautiful person, and
part of that is your name, and be proud of that.
Be proud of who you are. And you know, I
felt bad because I felt, you know, there were other
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people that were kind of waiting to talk, but I
just you know, this beautiful girl who felt that she
couldn't even use her real name because it was hard
for people to say.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And I was she was being somebody that other people
wanted her to be, yeah, instead of who she is.
So she came up to me after that interaction and
she said she started crying and she said to me,
your wife is amazing. She actually made me feel special.
And I said to her, I said, what did she do?
(13:35):
And she told me the story and she started crying
telling the story and she goes, nobody has ever told
me just to be me, not even me. And I
thought that that was pretty cool. And it's so interesting.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Because Anisa I think was her name, and she Anaisa,
and then she would just tell people her name was Anissa,
and I said, oh my god, her name is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And that's you know, that's something that when I heard,
you know, her say that that is really special about
you because one of the things about you that I
always say is you you bring out the true person
in people that you're around, because you do a great
job of and I think this probably comes from years
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of you having to be sometimes somebody that you weren't
because of how your your childhood went, but you are.
You had to protect yourself a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, and then also, you know, being married to somebody
who was a very big personality. You know, when you're
in a group of people and you're with the person
who is you know, the focal the focal point, or
the reason that people are there. You know, you're always
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in the background of it, and so you do kind
of lose yourself. I lost myself that way. I lost
myself like mothers typically do, being the mom and just
putting their children like there are a lot of ways
that I lost myself over the years for sure that
every woman I'm sure can relate to. But now it's
about in this time in my life, it's about taking
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that back and realizing who I am and doing what
I need, not what I want, but doing what I
need to do for myself, because for years I didn't
and I don't regret that at all. By the way,
I don't regret being your support and being the boy's support,
and you know that I love the life that I
(15:35):
have let but I also know that now I need
to be who I am and it's okay to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I love that. Speaking of that, we sent Luke off
for year number two. We did, we drove him back.
Actually it was weird because this year was so different
than last year because last year we had you know, us,
and then we had uh Leah and Max and Dennis
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and so it was a big production. Last year it
was a big production, and this year was just the
three of us. But you and Luke drove together in
his car. I drove in my car.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And I waited it happened you did. And leading up
to this day it was so different too. Like last
year it was because he was in a dorm last year.
This year's he's in his fraternity house. So last year
it was making sure you had everything from shower slippers
to the shower caddie, to the closet organizer to you know,
the risers for the bed for the you know, all
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of the different extension cords, the lights that you know,
every single the refrigerator, the like endless, endless. Our dining
room and because it was for two kids was full
to the brim and so when we took them moved
them up last year, it was too big carorful packed
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and it was just a big, huge to do. At
the end of the day, we were just so exhausted.
It was so emotional. And the shopping list for this
year was a big screen TV, a disco ball, a
an American flag, the cardboard deer cut out that you
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hang on the wall made out of beer, bush beer,
the basketball hoop, and then he had to make sure
a mattress and a mattress pad, which we went over
a million times.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Luke, what size is your bed?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Let me make sure? I'm going to okay, make sure.
They told me it's a queen size bed, and it is.
It's a queen size frame with a full mattress on it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So all of us.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Betting a mattress pad, queen whatever I mean, it is
what it is, It's gonna be perfect. But so it
just leading up to it, like even shopping for him
this year was so different and such a different feeling,
and so moving him in today, like you drove in
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your car and I drove with Luke and that was
really good. We had some time to talk about some
stuff and then moving him in, which is just a
different feeling. In the fraternity house, it is so gross.
So they went in and I don't know if they
do this every year, but they went in and they
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he said, Mom, it's going to be clean, because they
went in and they painted the walls and they fix
the fix the bathrooms up and I said, okay, and
then he said he told me the day before. I
don't want you to be upset, but the fraternity house
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looks like shit. And I said, what happened? And he said,
they didn't send a cleaning crew in, so they did
fix the walls, paint them, sanded them, but there was
just dust everywhere. And I said, okay, well, it can't
be that bad, you know. Well apparently they didn't. They
have been vacuumed, I don't think in years, because the
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stairway was just it's horrible, awful. But they do have
vacuums because there were kids vacuuming. And he has two
roommates in the room that he is in. He is
in what they called the loft lodge lodge, and there
are three so there's two other roommates in there, the
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three boys that live in there, and their room is
the room that a lot of kids want because it
has this big, huge balcony that they're not allowed to
go on. If they go on, they get fined. But
this big huge balcony that looks out of the front
of the house and they're on the top floor and
it's also the social room, so whenever they whenever people
get together, they always come to their room, which I
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don't know why anybody would.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Want that room. It's not going to be very quiet,
not at all.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
But he, you know, he's just in his element there
and it was a different feeling. I don't know how
you felt leaving him there, but it was such a
different feeling. Number One, he's not man, not new kid
on campus, and so I feel a little bit more
comfortable with him being there.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But also.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
He's with these kids that he really has, you know,
did last year pledging with them. And then it was
great to see all the older kids coming in and
you know, excited, yea, excited to see them. And I'm sure,
because I'm going to go up there in a couple
of days because we're going to move Max up on Wednesday,
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I'm sure it's going to be so disgusting. Because one
of his roommates parents were there. They showed up a
couple hours before us, and they said, you would have
been disgusted. We've already thrown out six garbage bags full
of stuff, six and mopped the floor four times, amazing,
and the water and they said we've dumped the water
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every time and it was black. The water was black.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But they were Yeah, they were amazing, so great. I
want to go back, go back to the morning because
of you and Luke were not getting along great in
the morning.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
What I know, we were getting along, but he yeah,
he was kind of being you know, he informed me
of yeah something, and.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You were upset. But it also said something to you
like you were. You were kind of a little mad
at him at first. And you know, I don't think
you have to get into accent as the story, but
I think that what I yeah about.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I said, here's a great mom hack, a good parent hack,
because it can work for mom or dads. But I
think you know, the day that you move your kids
back to school, you could be a little bit more
pissed off about them about something and it makes the
move so much easier.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Now. Granted, I mean, he really said.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Something that irritated the shit out of me in the morning,
and I was just like, okay, it's time for you
to go. By the time I left him, of course,
you know, I didn't want to leave him, but yeah,
I said, a little little mom hack here, make sure
you're a little pissed off about them?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, have them pissed you off before you move them
back to school? Yeah, because then it drop them off
on their first day at school. You know, it's amazing,
and it's sort of making me think about the people
that get in fights with somebody that they're going to
break up with because they want the.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah end well, And I think that here's the dynamic
that happens like and you know, it happens with them
when they go to kindergarten and the first time your
child lover says I hate you or I don't like you,
and you're so devastated.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
But it's you know, then.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You really because at first, when you have this baby,
you're just so part of each other, like, how can
I ever Oh my gosh, this is the love of
my life and you always feel that way, but how
can I ever be separated from this child? And then
slowly but surely, you know they have to every little
there are steps out the way where they have to
insert their independence, and you feel like your life is
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crumbling and you are destroyed as a person, but that
is normal and that has to happen in life. And
then you know there are times where as they're growing
up and if you're you know, being real to yourself.
A lot of parents out there where when they're little assholes,
and then they turn around and you can flip them
off because not.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
To their face, but to their back, you know, like
those are real parenting moments.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
But then they turn around and you want to hug
them like it's it's just it's part of you know,
parent parenteing.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's just moments and independence. And I think that he.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
When he knows that he's leaving to go back to school,
like he also has to make sure that he's becoming
a little bit more independent too, you know, even though
we support him and do all of that, but it's
you know, asserting his independence.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Would you guys talk about in the car ride, it's
just two of you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
He was really nervous, like about moving into the house,
like he didn't know. He is a little worried about
all of the partying. He's like, I, you know, I
hope I made the right choice going into that room,
and I hope that I don't get sick of it
really quick. And I said, well, my little friend, this
is what we call We made our bed and now
we're laying in it. You chose to be there, I said.
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The good thing is, though, you can leave and go
to the library during the day and study. Of course,
I don't think he even knows where it is. But
you know there are things I said, you can and
you can come home on some weekend. Do you want
to come home to get away from it? You can
come home so which he never did last year.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
No, he did not.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
No, I think he will this year a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Do you think that when you're in that car with him?
Because I really wanted you two guys to be together.
There's something about your relationship with the boys that because
your mom and I know that you want me a
lot of times to be more assertive with them about
things because of you want them, you know, to have
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that male figure to shop. But there are those times
where you just say the right things. And I think
that if he and I are in the car together,
you know we're going to talk about you know, some kind.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Of or you'll be on your phone talking to somebody. Yeah, yeah,
well I will tell you this. Do you know last year,
because I moved Joe up by myself, I moved him.
I moved Joey up went his freshman year and sophomore year. Yeah,
all of his years. I moved him up first by myself,
and then you would join me with the boys, and
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then with Jacob again. I did the same thing I would.
I did it by myself, and the part of it
was writing in the car with them by myself, Like
by myself. Every year, I would take them back and
I would move them up. You last year had Luke
in the car with you on the way and moving
him up his freshman year because I was in the
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car with Leah and it was when I got home
that night I thought, oh my god, I did not
have him in my car and we didn't get that
chance to talk. And it was a I think that
was part of my sadness too, like it was just,
oh my gosh, it was so different. So that was
it was great to get to write with him.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I don't remember. I think our DoorDash order is here.
I don't remember. I did not remember that. Yeah, but boy,
that was something that I think that you know, I'm
bummed that well. I was, actually, and I will say
this because I know that you're going to let you know,
(26:55):
Leah is going to take back Max. Yeah, but it's
almost kind of like, I feel like she needs to
have that one on one time too beforehand. You know. Well,
I think that she does.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
She has a lot of one on one time with
him in California right now for sure. But I think
that I know that they do have been doing a
ton this summer together. But I think it was also
good that you had that experience with Luke last year,
like you and Dennis had Luke and Max in the
car and that was really fun for you guys. So
I wouldn't take it away, but I just thought, oh
(27:26):
my gosh, it's always been me and now it's it's different.
Still good, you know, it was still still sad, but
it was different for me. And I think that was
a little bit where I was like, oh my god,
I missed out on that with him like that in
the end, No, I didn't. It's an hour and fifteen
minutes whatever where with the boys that was driving them
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to Chicago. It was just so different, you know, it
was just different. But I moved him home by myself,
so that was fine.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You didn't get emotional.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I did not, which was not a surprise to me.
Why only because I thought that we had a greater
time with him, moving him in, moving him in this
year than we did even last year. Like last year,
I felt like it was you trying to catch your
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breath because I think that you were really it was
almost like you're hyperventilating if you and not literally, but
just in general, because it was our first time doing it,
and you were trying to get through this room together
and you were doing it, and every time Luke, you
would say to Luke, Luke, let's hang up your clothes, Luke,
let's hang up this flag, Luke, let's hang up these
(28:39):
you know, whatever it is. Let's take apart, you know,
let's put the air fryer together, let's do all this stuff.
And he didn't want to do it. And I actually
said to you a couple of times, I said, Chelsea
needs to do this myself. Yeah, well yes, And I
will say that was good advice.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It was great advice. But I will say this again,
it was so different. So when Joe went away his
freshman year, he lived in an apart because he went
to school in the city. His apartment it was an
old apartment building that they turned into a dorm. He
had three other roommates and it was very much similar
to what it was with Luke, but a little bit
(29:18):
different in the sense that I had I was there
for a couple of days, so I moved him in
the first night. Then we made a list of what
he needed to get, and then the next day we
went to Target and got like so it was a
multi day and then you guys came out a couple
of days later, said goodbye, and then we all left.
With Jacob his freshman year, he actually moved into an
(29:38):
apartment with Joe, but we moved he and I went first,
and again it was a multi day thing, so I
was able to move him in and get him settled,
and it made that goodbye a little bit easier with
that because I had a couple of days and with
both of them, I'm like, when are you coming home?
Let's buy your plane tickets, I you know, big trying
(29:59):
to figure that out out. With Luke, it was he
really wasn't there like the other boys. Helped me do
a lot of stuff. He's like, see, yeah, he helped
us carry everything up to the room, and then I
cut you know, we kind of blindly, yeah, sat together
all of his stuff in his room, and it was
(30:21):
a lot. You want to make every make sure everything
is perfect for him, and you did give great advice
like just he's let it. If he doesn't want to
forget it, we're not going to do it. And that
was really hard for me to walk away. Well, this
year when his shopping list was the TV, the disco ball,
the American flight, you know, and I said to him,
where are you going to put your clothes? And you
(30:42):
want me to get you an organizer for your clothes
or nope, I don't want it. And I said, okay,
so I'm only going to ask you one time because
if you don't want it, you're on your own with that.
He's like, I'm fine, I don't want it. I said, okay, great.
And so when we got there and and he looked
at him, he's like, well, can you help me do
my stuff? Like he saw the other moms really helping
(31:04):
the boys do it, and I think he realized, Okay,
it's okay to have my mom help me, and I'm
gonna have her do it. And I think that it's
when I walked away and I told you, you know,
I think if anything, kids, when you're going away to school,
let your parents help you like it is going to
make that them when they walk away, they're gonna cry
(31:28):
and they're going to be sad, you know. But it
makes it so much easier when we know that we've
got you set up. We know you've got your sheets
in your bed that you'll never wash all year, and
your we're gonna try to organize all of this for
you and let us let us just have that last
four hours with you, or we're just setting you up.
(31:48):
It may drive you crazy, but let us do that.
But then also, parents, if they don't want you to
do it, I think it's really important to walk away
too and just know that they're going to be okay.
It was really hard last year, like when taking things
back and cursing under my breath, thinking I bought all
this shit for you and you don't whatever, okay, and
(32:09):
then throwing it away when I got home. But you
know what, he survived his freshman year, he did great,
and then this year he you know, he's going to learn,
you know, and if he needs it, we'll bring it. Yeah,
it's that.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, I was really proud of you, Like not for
not crying because I get emotional thinking about this, but
I know how hard it is, yeah for me. Yeah, yeah,
it's hard, and I know that the boys mean everything
to you. And it was funny because we called Jacob
(32:48):
up and we talked to Jacob the majority of the
ride home. Yeah, how as week was, And it's interesting,
you know, it's really interesting. I look and I think
that these guys are so freaking blessed. They're really blessed.
They have an amazing mom that literally has giving them
(33:14):
the ability to be able to learn a lot about
how to take care of themselves. But then they know
that it's there and we'll take care of them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Well, I'm well, they're pretty special. I'm really lucky. I
think we are so lucky with who we have as kids.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And I'm thinking about as we're taping this right now,
because we left Luke and Eese lancing in a house
that probably has fucking twenty eight thousand cases of Bush beer,
which I don't get bush. Bush beer must be the
cheapest beer. Probably they have a store. Oh yeah, I
think so. And he's probably fucking wasted. I hope he's okay. Yeah,
(33:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Well, he called me about an hour and a half ago.
What was just so funny, you know, what he said
to me before we got out of the carts too
is he said, which made me feel really good. And
then he said it again when he walked away when
we had left. But he said, I just want you
to know. You're gonna be my first phone call tomorrow morning.
And I said really. He's like, yeah, because I want
(34:14):
you to hear how horrible it is with all the
music going crazy. It's gonna be probably around one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But I'm going to call you.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You're gonna hear the music in the background. My first
phone call. And so when he was walking away when
we were getting in the car, I said, okay, i'll
talk to you tomorrow. He said, that's right, my first
phone call. And I was like, oh, so that made me.
I'm not going to cry. I know you want me
to cry.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I'm not going to cry. I know you're not gonna cry.
You're going to cry. I'm going to cry later. Yeah,
now you're stuck with me.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
That makes me cry. That makes me cry.
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half
Chelsea on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This episode coming up on this episode of the weedone podcast.
It was a very busy weekend for us. We got
to meet many people that listen to this podcast. Yes,
and we dropped off Luke for year number two. Did
Chelsea cry? It's always a big thing in our house
of Chelsea cries. We document it. It's only been like
(00:41):
a handful of times. We will talk about it on
this podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh what a week. What a week. We had our
More Mojo pod cast live, More Mojo Live podcast, whatever
the help we call it. We did a I hope
you will know what you call it. It's more Mojo podcast,
but it was more Mojo Live. I don't know what
it was, but we did it at the Imagine Theater,
(01:22):
which is big theater chain in our area. Very nice people,
Paul Glans, Anthony la Verde, the entire staff there, Nick Thomas,
Karen I saw Karen Thomas was there, which is Nick's wife. Yes,
it was very awkward to swear in front of Karen
because she's like the virgin Mary she is. But it
(01:45):
was it was how neat was it for you to
actually meet some people that listened to the podcast? Actually
a lot. It's great.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, it was actually very nice. Everyone that came up
and said they listened to the podcast and they can
relate to it and thank you, and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It was nice. People were thanking you for your brutal honesty.
That's what people are like, thank you for your brutal honesty.
Which is funny because a radio friend of mine, Danny Chekolinski,
sent me a note saying, Chelsea's brutal honesty or you're
such a bullshitter that you have to correct you.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Both both both both. Yeah, it was good. It was
a lot of fun, A lot of fun on Friday night.
I didn't think I was going to have a lot
of fun.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But I don't want to go.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I did not want to go. I just typically don't
go to these things. And I am such a homebody
and much rather be at home with the boys or
at home alone.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And I had a good time. Were you always a homebody?
Or was it that when we first got into radio together?
When I say together, because Honestly, you and I kind
of grew up together and I was doing this thing.
Is it that it's different than it ever was?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Well, I so you've been in radio since you were eighteen, right, yeap,
And so when I met you, you were twenty and
I was seventeen, just graduated from high school. And I literally, yes,
also grew up in this and it was so much
different back then. You know, you and I were talking
about it the other day that it was there was
(03:21):
no social media, and so it was. And really then
when you did nights and then afternoons and then finally
mornings when you got married, you really didn't When you
were doing nights and afternoon you really didn't talk about
having a girlfriend or like it was not that you
(03:42):
were hiding it, but it wasn't so much talking about
your personal life.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It was just basically.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Introducing a record like it just really, so when we
then got married, then it was a little bit more
talking about our personal lives.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But and then I started doing mornings when we got married.
I think it was mornings that made it make it
more more about your personal life.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Well, right, for sure, But I didn't know what I
was getting into when I started dating you.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I didn't know that this is what it was going
to be, that my whole life was going to be
played out behind you know, a speaker, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So it was, it's been, it's been interesting. Is it's wild.
It's actually kind of interesting because I noticed that some
people you know that are have dated that are part
of our you know, show or been part of the
show over time. Some people hate it, and then their
relationships honestly don't necessarily last. It seems like very long.
(04:45):
And then there are some people that get way into it,
almost to a point where they really love it. Yea.
They want to actually be.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Be a part of the show. Yeah yeah, be a character.
Yeah yeah. I I I think I've always really, I
have stayed behind the scenes. I haven't wanted to really
be a character or be so much a part of
the show. And so I really that's another reason why
I never really came.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Also, is I felt that this is this was your
job and if you were a banker, Am I going
to go sit with you at the bank and as you.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Help your customer? No?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You know, like I felt that there was very much
a divide that we had a personal family life, and
then you know, you had your job, so I wasn't
I would come to things, and I'd bring the boys
to things every once in a while, but it wasn't
a huge part of.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
My identity or.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You know, my identity was more or less being the
mom staying home raising the kids, and I loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
There was a period. It was funny because in Arizona,
when you know, we uh, you know, first got married
and had kids. You would come to an event. And
if you came to an event and the kids came
to an event. I remember Betsy was my co host
and she'd be, oh my god, like she get excited, yeah,
because she hadn't seen you in such a long time.
(06:09):
I hadn't seen the kids, right, And there were obviously
wasn't that social media, so you didn't see the growth
of the kids. And then there was a time when
we moved to Detroit, and you know that was when
you know, twenty almost twenty five years ago, we started,
you know, started you know, doing this thing. Yep, you
(06:30):
didn't even know where the radio station was. There was
there was a time where I had to send you
the address of the radio station.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Again where he right, But again it was because I
just stayed home and that was like, yeah, I was
raising the kids like that was my thing. It was
we kind of we invited people from the radio station
every once in a while to the house, but I
didn't really go in or.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Go to events.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And truly, you were starting a new show, and so
your whole life revolved a direct fund work and you know,
trying to bring the show because you, I mean, nobody
knew who Mojo in the Morning was twenty five years ago,
and so you had to work your magic and really
(07:15):
get to know the people of Detroit and get to
know Detroit itself. And I gladly stayed home and say
with the older two boys at that point, and yeah,
I am, but I am more of a homebody. I
think back to that whole thing. I definitely like to
be in my little space for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, you're also one too that because of the time constraints,
probably most mostly on what my job entails. You're one
where when I'm not working, you really want no like
you would like if my phone's always been my problem
(07:59):
one of them, and also always working and always thinking
about work. So for you, an amazing thing for you
is to get an escape completely from radio, So coming
to one of our radio functions or promotions or whatever
and being there and you know hanging out to you
(08:21):
is more work for.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Me, well, I because I feel like you have to
then worry about what I'm doing and making sure I'm
taken care of and really truly when you were at
these events, even the most independent people too, like I felt,
you know, it's not our place to be there.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's work.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Again, if you are working in a bank, am I
going to come in there and sit next to you
while you're dealing with your customers? Answer to that is no,
And I always felt like it was now, but this
is a different kind of job, right, So it's not
you're not working at a bank. But I think there's
a time and place for me. And I'm just speaking
(08:59):
for myself.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Again, I'm a very I love to be at home,
so it doesn't bother me not going.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It doesn't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And there were years that I just didn't go because
I didn't go, you know, we weren't in a good
place for me to go. But even being in a
good place, I'm still just okay being home now. Having
said that, Friday night was amazing. I had a lot
of fun. And it was great meeting listeners who really
(09:28):
appreciated the podcast, and it was great.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I loved I really loved seeing you there. I loved
having you up on stage. The reaction of people was amazing.
I think people know that you're pretty real, like you're well,
that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
That's that is the comment I get all the time,
whether it's direct message or people meeting me in person.
It's just thank you for being so real, thank you
for being so honest, which a lot of people didn't
like my honesty and realness, you know years and the
path on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, you know, I think once.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
To me for sure, and I and I am sometimes
but I think that it's you know, but it's deserved.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But there are there you go. I actually enjoy it.
I do, Okay, it'd be nice for her to, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And there are times that I wish you would put
your phone down, and there are times that I wish
that you would, you know, do things as well. But
here we are, you know, it's kind of a little
cycle that we have, you know, someone has to break it.
But and I lost my train of thought, but it
was it was a lot of fun. I have Oh yeah, yeah,
So I just I am who I am. You know,
(10:47):
I have a hard time pretending to be someone that
I'm not, and so either you love it or you don't,
and I I really don't because I have no one
to impress, Like that's the beauty of also the age
that I am. I think you realize that life is
short and you spend you know, a certain amount of
time trying like worried about oh my gosh, will this
(11:10):
person like me? Or what if I need to wear
this or I need to do this, But at the
end of the day, no, you don't, because the only
person need to be happy with is yourself. If you're
happy with yourself, then that's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We tell the story about she was a younger listener.
I mean she was probably I'm guessing in her twenties,
came up to you, introduce yourself to you, and within
her name.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh yeah, I'm going to mess up her name, which
makes me so you can just say her name was Chelsea, Okay,
so let yeah, because I don't want to anyway. So
it was a young girl, and I want to say
it was her mother or her older sister. So excuse
me if I'm getting this wrong. But they came up
(11:51):
and they introduced themselves, and the one let's and we'll
say her name is Chelsea, and she's my name is Chelsea,
and her mother then said, no, actually her name is
let's say chelseaa. And she goes, yeah, but it's just
so easy. It's easier to say Chelsea. And I said, well,
(12:14):
your name is beautiful, you know, Chelsea, so you should
when someone says it. She's like, but it's you know,
easier because people will say it wrong. And so I
just say Chelsea. And I said, you know what, then
you need to just kindly say to them it's actually,
you know, Chelsea, and or if I'm getting it wrong, whatever,
(12:36):
and because now it's confusing, and and she, you know,
started to cry and you could just tell and I said,
you've got to be so proud and so happy with
who you are. You are such a beautiful person, and
part of that is your name, and be proud of that.
Be proud of who you are. And you know, I
felt bad because I felt, you know, there were other
(12:58):
people that were kind of waiting to talk, but I
just you know, this beautiful girl who felt that she
couldn't even use her real name because it was hard
for people to say.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And I was she was being somebody that other people
wanted her to be, yeah, instead of who she is.
So she came up to me after that interaction and
she said she started crying and she said to me,
your wife is amazing. She actually made me feel special.
And I said to her, I said, what did she do?
(13:35):
And she told me the story and she started crying
telling the story and she goes, nobody has ever told
me just to be me, not even me. And I
thought that that was pretty cool. And it's so interesting.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Because Anisa I think was her name, and she Anaisa,
and then she would just tell people her name was Anissa,
and I said, oh my god, her name is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And that's you know, that's something that when I heard,
you know, her say that that is really special about
you because one of the things about you that I
always say is you you bring out the true person
in people that you're around, because you do a great
job of and I think this probably comes from years
(14:19):
of you having to be sometimes somebody that you weren't
because of how your your childhood went, but you are.
You had to protect yourself a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, and then also, you know, being married to somebody
who was a very big personality. You know, when you're
in a group of people and you're with the person
who is you know, the focal the focal point, or
the reason that people are there. You know, you're always
(14:49):
in the background of it, and so you do kind
of lose yourself. I lost myself that way. I lost
myself like mothers typically do, being the mom and just
putting their children like there are a lot of ways
that I lost myself over the years for sure that
every woman I'm sure can relate to. But now it's
about in this time in my life, it's about taking
(15:12):
that back and realizing who I am and doing what
I need, not what I want, but doing what I
need to do for myself, because for years I didn't
and I don't regret that at all. By the way,
I don't regret being your support and being the boy's support,
and you know that I love the life that I
(15:35):
have let but I also know that now I need
to be who I am and it's okay to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I love that. Speaking of that, we sent Luke off
for year number two. We did, we drove him back.
Actually it was weird because this year was so different
than last year because last year we had you know, us,
and then we had uh Leah and Max and Dennis
(16:04):
and so it was a big production. Last year it
was a big production, and this year was just the
three of us. But you and Luke drove together in
his car. I drove in my car.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And I waited it happened you did. And leading up
to this day it was so different too. Like last
year it was because he was in a dorm last year.
This year's he's in his fraternity house. So last year
it was making sure you had everything from shower slippers
to the shower caddie, to the closet organizer to you know,
the risers for the bed for the you know, all
(16:41):
of the different extension cords, the lights that you know,
every single the refrigerator, the like endless, endless. Our dining
room and because it was for two kids was full
to the brim and so when we took them moved
them up last year, it was too big carorful packed
(17:04):
and it was just a big, huge to do. At
the end of the day, we were just so exhausted.
It was so emotional. And the shopping list for this
year was a big screen TV, a disco ball, a
an American flag, the cardboard deer cut out that you
(17:26):
hang on the wall made out of beer, bush beer,
the basketball hoop, and then he had to make sure
a mattress and a mattress pad, which we went over
a million times.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Luke, what size is your bed?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Let me make sure? I'm going to okay, make sure.
They told me it's a queen size bed, and it is.
It's a queen size frame with a full mattress on it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So all of us.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Betting a mattress pad, queen whatever I mean, it is
what it is, It's gonna be perfect. But so it
just leading up to it, like even shopping for him
this year was so different and such a different feeling,
and so moving him in today, like you drove in
(18:18):
your car and I drove with Luke and that was
really good. We had some time to talk about some
stuff and then moving him in, which is just a
different feeling. In the fraternity house, it is so gross.
So they went in and I don't know if they
do this every year, but they went in and they
(18:39):
he said, Mom, it's going to be clean, because they
went in and they painted the walls and they fix
the fix the bathrooms up and I said, okay, and
then he said he told me the day before. I
don't want you to be upset, but the fraternity house
(19:02):
looks like shit. And I said, what happened? And he said,
they didn't send a cleaning crew in, so they did
fix the walls, paint them, sanded them, but there was
just dust everywhere. And I said, okay, well, it can't
be that bad, you know. Well apparently they didn't. They
have been vacuumed, I don't think in years, because the
(19:24):
stairway was just it's horrible, awful. But they do have
vacuums because there were kids vacuuming. And he has two
roommates in the room that he is in. He is
in what they called the loft lodge lodge, and there
are three so there's two other roommates in there, the
(19:45):
three boys that live in there, and their room is
the room that a lot of kids want because it
has this big, huge balcony that they're not allowed to
go on. If they go on, they get fined. But
this big huge balcony that looks out of the front
of the house and they're on the top floor and
it's also the social room, so whenever they whenever people
get together, they always come to their room, which I
(20:09):
don't know why anybody would.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Want that room. It's not going to be very quiet,
not at all.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
But he, you know, he's just in his element there
and it was a different feeling. I don't know how
you felt leaving him there, but it was such a
different feeling. Number One, he's not man, not new kid
on campus, and so I feel a little bit more
comfortable with him being there.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But also.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
He's with these kids that he really has, you know,
did last year pledging with them. And then it was
great to see all the older kids coming in and
you know, excited, yea, excited to see them. And I'm sure,
because I'm going to go up there in a couple
of days because we're going to move Max up on Wednesday,
(20:57):
I'm sure it's going to be so disgusting. Because one
of his roommates parents were there. They showed up a
couple hours before us, and they said, you would have
been disgusted. We've already thrown out six garbage bags full
of stuff, six and mopped the floor four times, amazing,
and the water and they said we've dumped the water
(21:19):
every time and it was black. The water was black.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But they were Yeah, they were amazing, so great. I
want to go back, go back to the morning because
of you and Luke were not getting along great in
the morning.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
What I know, we were getting along, but he yeah,
he was kind of being you know, he informed me
of yeah something, and.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You were upset. But it also said something to you
like you were. You were kind of a little mad
at him at first. And you know, I don't think
you have to get into accent as the story, but
I think that what I yeah about.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I said, here's a great mom hack, a good parent hack,
because it can work for mom or dads. But I
think you know, the day that you move your kids
back to school, you could be a little bit more
pissed off about them about something and it makes the
move so much easier.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Now. Granted, I mean, he really said.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Something that irritated the shit out of me in the morning,
and I was just like, okay, it's time for you
to go. By the time I left him, of course,
you know, I didn't want to leave him, but yeah,
I said, a little little mom hack here, make sure
you're a little pissed off about them?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, have them pissed you off before you move them
back to school? Yeah, because then it drop them off
on their first day at school. You know, it's amazing,
and it's sort of making me think about the people
that get in fights with somebody that they're going to
break up with because they want the.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah end well, And I think that here's the dynamic
that happens like and you know, it happens with them
when they go to kindergarten and the first time your
child lover says I hate you or I don't like you,
and you're so devastated.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
But it's you know, then.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You really because at first, when you have this baby,
you're just so part of each other, like, how can
I ever Oh my gosh, this is the love of
my life and you always feel that way, but how
can I ever be separated from this child? And then
slowly but surely, you know they have to every little
there are steps out the way where they have to
insert their independence, and you feel like your life is
(23:20):
crumbling and you are destroyed as a person, but that
is normal and that has to happen in life. And
then you know there are times where as they're growing
up and if you're you know, being real to yourself.
A lot of parents out there where when they're little assholes,
and then they turn around and you can flip them
off because not.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
To their face, but to their back, you know, like
those are real parenting moments.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
But then they turn around and you want to hug
them like it's it's just it's part of you know,
parent parenteing.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's just moments and independence. And I think that he.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
When he knows that he's leaving to go back to school,
like he also has to make sure that he's becoming
a little bit more independent too, you know, even though
we support him and do all of that, but it's
you know, asserting his independence.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Would you guys talk about in the car ride, it's
just two of you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
He was really nervous, like about moving into the house,
like he didn't know. He is a little worried about
all of the partying. He's like, I, you know, I
hope I made the right choice going into that room,
and I hope that I don't get sick of it
really quick. And I said, well, my little friend, this
is what we call We made our bed and now
we're laying in it. You chose to be there, I said.
(24:39):
The good thing is, though, you can leave and go
to the library during the day and study. Of course,
I don't think he even knows where it is. But
you know there are things I said, you can and
you can come home on some weekend. Do you want
to come home to get away from it? You can
come home so which he never did last year.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
No, he did not.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
No, I think he will this year a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Do you think that when you're in that car with him?
Because I really wanted you two guys to be together.
There's something about your relationship with the boys that because
your mom and I know that you want me a
lot of times to be more assertive with them about
things because of you want them, you know, to have
(25:20):
that male figure to shop. But there are those times
where you just say the right things. And I think
that if he and I are in the car together,
you know we're going to talk about you know, some kind.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Of or you'll be on your phone talking to somebody. Yeah, yeah,
well I will tell you this. Do you know last year,
because I moved Joe up by myself, I moved him.
I moved Joey up went his freshman year and sophomore year. Yeah,
all of his years. I moved him up first by myself,
and then you would join me with the boys, and
(25:52):
then with Jacob again. I did the same thing I would.
I did it by myself, and the part of it
was writing in the car with them by myself, Like
by myself. Every year, I would take them back and
I would move them up. You last year had Luke
in the car with you on the way and moving
him up his freshman year because I was in the
(26:13):
car with Leah and it was when I got home
that night I thought, oh my god, I did not
have him in my car and we didn't get that
chance to talk. And it was a I think that
was part of my sadness too, like it was just,
oh my gosh, it was so different. So that was
it was great to get to write with him.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I don't remember. I think our DoorDash order is here.
I don't remember. I did not remember that. Yeah, but boy,
that was something that I think that you know, I'm
bummed that well. I was, actually, and I will say
this because I know that you're going to let you know,
(26:55):
Leah is going to take back Max. Yeah, but it's
almost kind of like, I feel like she needs to
have that one on one time too beforehand. You know. Well,
I think that she does.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
She has a lot of one on one time with
him in California right now for sure. But I think
that I know that they do have been doing a
ton this summer together. But I think it was also
good that you had that experience with Luke last year,
like you and Dennis had Luke and Max in the
car and that was really fun for you guys. So
I wouldn't take it away, but I just thought, oh
(27:26):
my gosh, it's always been me and now it's it's different.
Still good, you know, it was still still sad, but
it was different for me. And I think that was
a little bit where I was like, oh my god,
I missed out on that with him like that in
the end, No, I didn't. It's an hour and fifteen
minutes whatever where with the boys that was driving them
(27:48):
to Chicago. It was just so different, you know, it
was just different. But I moved him home by myself,
so that was fine.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You didn't get emotional.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I did not, which was not a surprise to me.
Why only because I thought that we had a greater
time with him, moving him in, moving him in this
year than we did even last year. Like last year,
I felt like it was you trying to catch your
(28:18):
breath because I think that you were really it was
almost like you're hyperventilating if you and not literally, but
just in general, because it was our first time doing it,
and you were trying to get through this room together
and you were doing it, and every time Luke, you
would say to Luke, Luke, let's hang up your clothes, Luke,
let's hang up this flag, Luke, let's hang up these
(28:39):
you know, whatever it is. Let's take apart, you know,
let's put the air fryer together, let's do all this stuff.
And he didn't want to do it. And I actually
said to you a couple of times, I said, Chelsea
needs to do this myself. Yeah, well yes, And I
will say that was good advice.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It was great advice. But I will say this again,
it was so different. So when Joe went away his
freshman year, he lived in an apart because he went
to school in the city. His apartment it was an
old apartment building that they turned into a dorm. He
had three other roommates and it was very much similar
to what it was with Luke, but a little bit
(29:18):
different in the sense that I had I was there
for a couple of days, so I moved him in
the first night. Then we made a list of what
he needed to get, and then the next day we
went to Target and got like so it was a
multi day and then you guys came out a couple
of days later, said goodbye, and then we all left.
With Jacob his freshman year, he actually moved into an
(29:38):
apartment with Joe, but we moved he and I went first,
and again it was a multi day thing, so I
was able to move him in and get him settled,
and it made that goodbye a little bit easier with
that because I had a couple of days and with
both of them, I'm like, when are you coming home?
Let's buy your plane tickets, I you know, big trying
(29:59):
to figure that out out. With Luke, it was he
really wasn't there like the other boys. Helped me do
a lot of stuff. He's like, see, yeah, he helped
us carry everything up to the room, and then I
cut you know, we kind of blindly, yeah, sat together
all of his stuff in his room, and it was
(30:21):
a lot. You want to make every make sure everything
is perfect for him, and you did give great advice
like just he's let it. If he doesn't want to
forget it, we're not going to do it. And that
was really hard for me to walk away. Well, this
year when his shopping list was the TV, the disco ball,
the American flight, you know, and I said to him,
where are you going to put your clothes? And you
(30:42):
want me to get you an organizer for your clothes
or nope, I don't want it. And I said, okay,
so I'm only going to ask you one time because
if you don't want it, you're on your own with that.
He's like, I'm fine, I don't want it. I said, okay, great.
And so when we got there and and he looked
at him, he's like, well, can you help me do
my stuff? Like he saw the other moms really helping
(31:04):
the boys do it, and I think he realized, Okay,
it's okay to have my mom help me, and I'm
gonna have her do it. And I think that it's
when I walked away and I told you, you know,
I think if anything, kids, when you're going away to school,
let your parents help you like it is going to
make that them when they walk away, they're gonna cry
(31:28):
and they're going to be sad, you know. But it
makes it so much easier when we know that we've
got you set up. We know you've got your sheets
in your bed that you'll never wash all year, and
your we're gonna try to organize all of this for
you and let us let us just have that last
four hours with you, or we're just setting you up.
(31:48):
It may drive you crazy, but let us do that.
But then also, parents, if they don't want you to
do it, I think it's really important to walk away
too and just know that they're going to be okay.
It was really hard last year, like when taking things
back and cursing under my breath, thinking I bought all
this shit for you and you don't whatever, okay, and
(32:09):
then throwing it away when I got home. But you
know what, he survived his freshman year, he did great,
and then this year he you know, he's going to learn,
you know, and if he needs it, we'll bring it. Yeah,
it's that.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, I was really proud of you, Like not for
not crying because I get emotional thinking about this, but
I know how hard it is, yeah for me. Yeah, yeah,
it's hard, and I know that the boys mean everything
to you. And it was funny because we called Jacob
(32:48):
up and we talked to Jacob the majority of the
ride home. Yeah, how as week was, And it's interesting,
you know, it's really interesting. I look and I think
that these guys are so freaking blessed. They're really blessed.
They have an amazing mom that literally has giving them
(33:14):
the ability to be able to learn a lot about
how to take care of themselves. But then they know
that it's there and we'll take care of them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Well, I'm well, they're pretty special. I'm really lucky. I
think we are so lucky with who we have as kids.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And I'm thinking about as we're taping this right now,
because we left Luke and Eese lancing in a house
that probably has fucking twenty eight thousand cases of Bush beer,
which I don't get bush. Bush beer must be the
cheapest beer. Probably they have a store. Oh yeah, I
think so. And he's probably fucking wasted. I hope he's okay. Yeah,
(33:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Well, he called me about an hour and a half ago.
What was just so funny, you know, what he said
to me before we got out of the carts too
is he said, which made me feel really good. And
then he said it again when he walked away when
we had left. But he said, I just want you
to know. You're gonna be my first phone call tomorrow morning.
And I said really. He's like, yeah, because I want
(34:14):
you to hear how horrible it is with all the
music going crazy. It's gonna be probably around one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But I'm going to call you.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You're gonna hear the music in the background. My first
phone call. And so when he was walking away when
we were getting in the car, I said, okay, i'll
talk to you tomorrow. He said, that's right, my first
phone call. And I was like, oh, so that made me.
I'm not going to cry. I know you want me
to cry.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I'm not going to cry. I know you're not gonna cry.
You're going to cry. I'm going to cry later. Yeah,
now you're stuck with me.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
That makes me cry. That makes me cry.
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