Episode 78: What a Moment for our Family

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
On this episode coming up on the Weedome podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Took a week off. We had a very busy week
last week.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
We did.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
We're well rested and we have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Let's begin well, all right, all right, all right, without
further delay, here are Mojo and Chelsea.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
So last week was the big week for the family.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It was the week of the Hall of Fame and
it was Jacob's graduation, getting his doctorate degree.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I guess that was and I hope that.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You voll for now in the rest of our lives
refer to me as your Hall of Fame husband.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Probably not, what would give me? Well, you give me
your thoughts and then.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'll give you my thoughts on things about the weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, I want to hear about everything.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
So it was, oh gosh, Henry's getting into his bowl.
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's okay, keep going. Nobody can hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was great. So Chicago was fun. It was a
great night. Joe's induction or his introduction, I should say
to your induction was amazing. His speech his little video
and your speech was great and it was fun to
have everyone there, your family, the kids, the significant others,

(01:47):
and seeing people we haven't seen it in a while
was nice too. Yeah for that, and then we went
out later that night and then what did we do?
And then Jacob's graduation was amazing, all that hard work
that he put into it and to see it finally.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
How long did Jacob go to school?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Nine years?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
So he went to four years of regular college and
then was it five years?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It was a master doctorate program? Right, Wow, we.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Get your master's or your doctorate. He got his doctorate.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
He got his doctorate. Okay, so the program, man, that's amazing.
That's a lot of school. It's funny. I always forget
how old our kids are too, I know, because I
always refer to him as like my twenty four year
old son, and it doesn't make through the math at
all because he's.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
How old twenty eight, twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Twenty seven? Okay, all right, so let me tell you
my thoughts on everything. Okay, we drove to Chicago, which
was good. I usually don't like driving, but this was
actually really good because you're still I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Okay,
he was born in nineteen ninety five, right eight, Yes,

(03:02):
I know my kids Jacob or Joe was born in
nineteen ninety five. Okay, So normally I don't like driving
because I hate the It seems like forever, even though
it's only like four and a half hours, but it
does feel like it's a forever drive. And I actually
liked it because I was really not in a good

(03:23):
place going into it.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I was nervous.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I talked about the you know, having the little bit
of imposter syndrome, you know, going into it, and I
kind of was not feeling what I was going to say,
and I rewrote like three or four times what I
was going to say. And the drive to Chicago, I
think that my things.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
That I finished up day before.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Which was the day before the induction, I think that
the stuff that I wrote was probably the worst of
them all. So I was kind of going into it
not feeling good. My stomach was not good. Everything wasn't good.
There were a couple moments though, that kind of called
me and made me feel really good. Actually, it was
like three or four moments. Number one, we get to

(04:08):
Chicago and I see Johnny Dare, who's one of you know,
my very very best friends. Much like you know people
always say you're like a brother to me. He truly
is like a brother to me. Johnny and I, you know,
have known each other for almost my entire career, and

(04:29):
he's one of those guys that I would probably venture
to say that if I needed to be bailed out
of jail, he'd be one of the first guys I
would call, because A, he has the money to bail
me out of jail, but B I know that he's
type of guy that would figure out a way to
get me bailed out of jail. Like he's a can
do kind of guy. So when I saw him and Caitlin,

(04:49):
who I have not seen in years, and it was
kind of an emotional time because Johnny and I both
shared a relationship with our agent Norm that was like
a father on relationship, and I think Johnny and I
have not been seeing each other because we both still
have a little bit of hurt from Norm passing away.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
So it was just awesome. It just felt normal, It
was natural.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
It was great getting everybody together, you know, Joe and
Alyssa came to the bar that we were all hanging
out at when we first saw Johnny. That was pretty
cool too, because I like Joe to have a little
bit of influence by Johnny, and so that was that
was like one of the first moments. Second moment was
we all then went out to dinner that night, and

(05:35):
this was including Johnny and Caitlyn and Joe and Alyssa,
but then it included the three girls of the show
that were there, Shannon, Lydia and Bianca. And to get
in to get them together with you and Joe and
Alyssa and then Johnny and Caitlyn was cool and it

(05:55):
kind of felt, Okay, this is good, but I still
had a little bit of nerves. Finally, the third moment
that was pretty cool was doing our show from Chicago,
which is my hometown for those that don't know. And
I always wanted to be in radio because of Chicago,
Like I always wanted to be on the air because

(06:15):
I grew up listening to Chicago radio and I never
got a chance to be at the level that you know,
I am in Detroit in Chicago, which still to this
day kind of does make me feel like, man' that's
you know, it's a bummer, like I wish I would
have had that when we signed on the air that morning.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
It was pretty wild because.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
We were so loose and everybody was still a little
hungover from the night before because we drank the night before.
There was something that made me feel like, Okay, you're
now on the air in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
As weird as that something.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
We have broadcasted from there before.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's not the first place I never felt this because
when I broadcasted in Chicago before, never had the people
around me from the show. Oh, so it always had
been me. So there was something about that. And then
at the end of the show, there was something kind
of magical where, you know, keV booked his flight to
go to Chicago during our show. He thought we were

(07:12):
taking off Thursday and Friday. Oh, he didn't know that
we were.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
He had to work Wednesday night in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
He had to work Wednesday night in Detroit, and the
only flight that he could get on to get there
in time for the dinner would have been a morning
flight during our show, or he probably would have just
driven out after the game of the Pistons game to
try to get there and it would have been a mess.
So that was kind of a cool thing that that happened.

(07:41):
And then I'm still talking about this. And then when
we were getting ready to go over to the hotel.
I think I told you multiple times that I was
really nervous when we walked into the hotel and I
saw my fanly all sitting there, which was like an

(08:03):
infirmary at first, and you see you know Pat, you know,
with her her walker Mary, Joe kind of limping in there,
my brother Tony, you know, uh, the you know, one
of the oldest in our family, and my brother Bill
of course, probably having a few too many cocktails. That
made me feel like, Okay, this is a little bit

(08:23):
of home, you know, because my home is there. And
I think I told you this. It wasn't until Joe's
an induction that he did an introduction. It was an induction,
That's that's what it's called. Yeah, Joe did the induction.
So so you're inducted into the Hall of Fame. The
person that inducts you is the person that got Yeah.

(08:45):
So Joe's and Joe doing the induction got rid of
my nerves. So that was the coolest part of that,
that whole thing mm hmm. And I threw away the
speech that I wrote, which was so smart that I
did that because something was telling me. Wow, Joe really
caught the emotional moment of what was going on by

(09:08):
his words that he said about me as a father,
And I said, if I go up there and read
this thing, it will literally kill the room and the
emotion that was in the room. And so I had
to just go up there and speak. So did you
like what I said about you?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah? I did?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Did you?

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's very nice?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Do you remember what I said?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
You said that it's been a crazy summer, that you
a lot of highs and lows, that you got the
phone call that you got into the Hall of Fame,
and then we got the news that I had ovarian cancer.
And you said that we've been married for thirty one years,

(09:48):
which is not normal in radio. And then you said
that I'm you know, I'm going to win for our
family and for us.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
One of the things I did say that I think,
I don't know if you caught it, was radio has
brought a lot to us right as a family. It's
brought a lot to me personally. It was something that
I leaned on a lot as a kid because I loved,
you know, radio and growing up you know and having

(10:29):
you know, my mom be sick and stuff I would
turn to. I would go in my room listen to
the radio a lot, and that was kind of like
my thing. Pretending I was on the radio was kind
of like the thing to do, like, you know, that
made me feel comforted, Like this was something that made
me for some reason, you know, like some kids pretend
they're rock stars. I pretended I was a radio on
their personality. But what truly brought me and my life

(10:57):
everything was radio brought you and I together because it
was a radio promotion that I went to, that you
were at and that, and it was meeting you. And
if I didn't have this job, I would not have
ever had an opportunity to to get to meet you,

(11:17):
get to eventually, you know, become friends with you and
then dating you.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
No, but that's what I was going to say.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I did not hear that at all, But I.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Said radio brought us together.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
And radio cancer is going to take her out.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Cancer is going to take her out, not soon enough,
but she's going to be here before way after a.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Tiger.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm boring you with this. I'm looking at you right now.
You just look horribly bored.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
No, I'm not bored. At I'm just listening.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, So so that was kind of my that was
kind of like my moment with that, uh that night
and then afterwards was a lot of on going out
with everybody. Jacob's graduation. I can't say enough from two
people who literally have high school educations and some college

(12:12):
to know that we as you know, non college educated adults,
we're able to produce, you know, two college graduates soon
to be three. But then that doctor is pretty freaking awesome.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah. Well, and he's so passionate about it. And I
love that Joe gets to do what he loves and
now Jacob gets to do what he loves. That's all
you could want for your kids, right are you doing
what you love to do what they love? I'm just
like lay around and do nothing. So yes, loving that
right now?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
No, you're you are, You're keeping a family together, You're
you're you are. I think I raised the boss of
the house and you've raised three. Does it not give
you satisfaction? Like when you I know that you love
the boys, but do you look at look at what
you have done in the fact that you know two
of the three boys are doing what they.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Love, doing what he loves.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Right, He's definitely doing what he loves, especially in his
fraternity house. But that if there's a hall of fame,
that's a hall of fame right there.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, Jerry's still out with Let's I'm sure Louke will
find what he loves. And again, that's all I want
is to watch my kids do what they love and
succeed at it, right, and then then I get the
report card. So two out of three we're pretty good.
And I'm sure again, I'm sure Louke will find what
he loves.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
But it's funny because I look at our lives with.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Our kids and they're good humans.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
And I look at our life in our home and
everything that we've kind of pieced together.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
It ain't me.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I know that I've worked and been able to pay bills,
but you truly have done that. Like I I don't
know if you realize this, but you know, like when
they're going through here are all the things that Tom
Carballo Mojo has done, and they go through all the
different radio cities that we've been to, it has been
you that has had to build and set up everything

(14:16):
other than my radio show. Yeah, I mean that's a
pretty amazing accomplishment and be there for everything that the
kids have needed, field trips to times when they they've
called you and I've seen this. Yeah, and they've been struggling,
and you've had to be the reassurance sometimes getting in
the car to go either drive across the you know,

(14:38):
the country or you know, a couple hours away.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, I know that that's been my role and I
love it, and I think I've done very well with
that for sure. But and I'm I love my relationship
with them and I love that they This is a
funny thing though. I so we were when we were
you tell me if you remember this, and we were

(15:05):
sitting there at Jacob's dinner before his graduation the night
before his graduation, and you said, Jacob, is there one
person that has helped you get through this whole thing?
Or who is the one person that helped you get
through this whole thing? And remember what he said?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah? He said me, I know, did not? He said you?

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I think you were one ding him to say what
did you say?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
He said me, yes, I know that.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, you said, Mam has heard me cry, she's encouraged me,
she's been there. But I was sitting in.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
There, but I wasn't wanting him to say you, I
was teeing it up for you. I hope you don't
think that I'm that. No, I was teeing it up
for you, Chelsea. I say this truly with the most
amazing like I have such a a an affinity for

(16:02):
how great the kids have been parented by you. Because
I hate to always harp on this, I didn't have
those moments.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, but you also were there. Listen, you were
lucky and sucky. It really sucks with your hours, but
you were lucky. We at least as a family could
sit down every night, most every night for dinners as
a family.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
This is about me. This is about me talking about you.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
No, I know, but I'm just saying, don't don't take
away stuff that you did do and you were there.
The boys benefited from us both. Was I there every
morning getting them ready for school and doing all of
that stuff? Yes, and I did a.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Lot of joff getting them ready for school. And this
is something that I think that you do. You and
I both are bad at. And maybe it's humility, or
maybe it's just honestly that we feel like we both
have imposter syndrome. It's not just getting them ready for school,
you know, clothing wise or physically, it's emotionally getting them ready.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
And like I know that, like I think of I do.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Know that, But I don't like you putting yourself down
as their dad. No I'm not, because you did do
a lot.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Listen, I as a dad, I tried to give the
kids what I didn't get.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, yeah, and you did, and you really did. I
think that you struggle because like for Joe and Jacob,
you weren't there for those donuts or like you know,
it was harder for you to just say, you know what,
I'm going to take one morning off and I'm just
going to do one thing. Like you you couldn't see

(17:46):
through the forest to look at or whatever that saying is.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
But I didn't prioritize, right I was. I thought. I
thought that work was the end all be all I thought,
and I was raised.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
To And that was your example.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
That's how yeah it was supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
That was your example. And then with Luke you started
to realize, Okay, the world will not my show will
not crash if I am if I do a couple
of other things. So I think, which is a huge
benefit to the people that you work with because you
encourage them take the morning off, go to the first
day of school, go do because those times you don't

(18:26):
ever get back, which I think is such growth for
you and huge for you and a great dad thing
for you to realize.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It was words that were said to me that, you know,
will your listeners remember that you took off November the sixth,
or will your child remember that you weren't there at
their Dad's and Donuts Day?

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah? Yeah, So, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
There were times when I wouldn't have taken the day
off after the Hall of Fame off. I would have said, no,
we're going on the air. I mean there are times
that I would have said, no, we'll I'll leave early
and we'll go rest up and we'll do a good
show for the listeners, because I felt like if we
were off the air, that we were failing. And little
did I realize that, you know, those were times where

(19:15):
I feel like we were we were failing ourselves.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I think that Jacob's accomplishment is pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
It was a great weekend if you think about it.
It started amazing and ended amazing. Like there it could
not have been for our family, both I mean because really,
truly you have deserved and earned the Hall of Fame,
Like it's amazing. I can't wait. I was not able
to go see the actual Hall of Fame with you
when you did the tour, so I said, we will

(19:49):
go back and we will go tour it because I
was getting my hair and makeup done. Yeah, and so
I'm really excited to see that. And that's really cool
in the sense that that's something you and I discussed.
You know, our grandchildren can go and visit and see,
you know, their grandpa's and the Radio Hall of Fame

(20:10):
like that is so cool. And then with Jacob, all
the hard work that he's put in to get that doctorate,
it was just so amazing to hear his name being called.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, that's cool, and to see the hug that he
got from his.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
His professor that was his Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I have seen Joe in action, like I've gone and
watched him work and it's cool. It's walking in the
studio and seeing your child work is pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah,
I love one day to be able to.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
See Jacob Hippa.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
You probably can't, I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You, but even just walk in and just see him yeah,
see his office or yeah, you know it's you.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Should do that the next time in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's pretty awesome to see that, you know, to be
able to see that. A couple of other things that
we're pretty interesting that weekend, to show you what kind
of kids we have. They're all so different. It was
neat that Luke decided that he was going to spend
the whole weekend with us because there was a chance
that he had some school stuff that he was going to.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well it's called a party. Yeah, So he was going
to come up on Wednesday and I'm sorry, come up
on Thursday morning, drive up Thursday, and then leave Friday
afternoon to go to a party because you know it's
Halloween weekends, to go to a party on Friday. Drive back.

(21:43):
He wanted to do a party Friday and Saturday, and
I said it's one or none picket. So he said, okay,
I'll go to one party then when so I just
thought that that's what he was doing. He called me
on the way up to when he was driving up
to Chicago to tell me he only had one hair
of underwear that he brought and he forgot the jacket
because I brought everything else for him to wear to

(22:04):
the Hall of Fame and to Jacob's graduation. All he
had to do was bring the jacket and bring clothes
for the weekend, and all he had was a pair
of underwear. He actually had to stop off and buy
a toothbrush and toothpaste, so he but then in that
conversation he said to me, you know, and I'm just
going to stay the whole weekend. I'm not leaving. I thought,

(22:26):
I feel just so happy. And every time that he
and I would just like get some time alone, whether
we're walking around the city or you know, just talking
in the hotel room by ourselves, and for him to say,
I'm so glad I did this. This has been so
much fun to be with everyone made me, as a mom, feel,
you know, this is great.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I loved that he did that because it made it complete.
And there would have been, obviously, you know, the complete
times during the two big ceremonies, but it was the
stuff that we did aside from that that made it.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
It was fun.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
When did you know that?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Because it's funny our friend Courtney is visiting, and Courtney
is here and she was your first boss, and I
remember when you had Joe. You had Joe and you
were working for Courtney, and I remember you calling me
on the air and.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Saying that I think I called you off their first,
but you put me on.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
There, called me off there, saying you were missing being
home with Joe because Joe was with your mom and
you know, watched and that was going to be kind
of the thing. Your mom was going to watch Joe
while you were working. And then the decision was made
you were going to stay home with the kids. It's
kind of symbolic. It's weird, isn't it, Like I look
at the symbolism.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Did I know what that?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
When did you know though, that you that was like
the decision.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
That I went back to work and a couple of hours, But.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
When did you know that was the that was the
best decision for.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
You, oh to stay home?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And you ever regret not?

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I don't ever regret not going back, you know, quitting
my quitting working. Ever, Like I think it was amazing.
I'm so grateful and thankful that I was able to
do that and stay home and raise the boys. I've
I've never regretted that at all.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Do you look back at that and say to yourself,
how things could have been. Would they have been different if.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
If my mom was taking care of them? Of course
it would be different. But yeah, because I wouldn't have
then you don't have all that time with your babies.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, which is funny because we did not have the
means to do that. No, we needed it to income house.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
But we made it work.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
We were able to make it.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Do you think Jacob would have had a totally different
answer when asked who.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Was the Do you wish Jacob would have had time?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I tea, Like I said, I teed it up because
I knew exactly what he was going to say.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I mean, listen, Jacob.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And I talk about that even when we have had
conversations about the relationship that he has, you know, with
us as parents, but with you specifically. I mean, his
relationship with you is tight. Do you ever think when
he was younger that he was going to do the
career path that he chose.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
I don't think I ever thought he would be a psychologist.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
No.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
But it's interesting because he did deal with severe anxiety,
as Gosh started when he was in kindergarten. So I
love that this is what he ended up doing because
he can understand you know, he's more empathetic. He gets
it when someone come when someone will come in and say,

(25:45):
I have anxiety with this, like he gets it because
he's had it since a child, since he was a
little child. And I mean it's like one of those
full circle moments that hopefully we put him in good
hands because you know, we would take him to someone
to help him with this anxiety when he was younger,

(26:06):
and hopefully that was a good experience for him and
it made him want to eventually go into that and help.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
It's funny because sometimes I think that a good a
really good experience or a really bad experience.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
So let's hope it's good.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I think it was good because well it could drive
you to either to be that because I want to
change it. You know, it's funny he's looking at what
I've done in my career. My first experience ever with
anybody that was professional was a person that told me
you'll never make it. And that was honestly, and that
was the driving factor. Alan Stagg was his name.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Google him if.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
He's still alive.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
We should send Alan a picture of your He was
a Hall of Fame Radio Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
He was a radio a radio guy in Chicago, and he.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Alan Stagg. Let's look him up right now.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
It is amazing to me that you can remember names
like yeah, but I'll ask you to do something or
I'll tell you something and you don't remember it.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's you're right now.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Unfortunately, Alan Stagg is a is a dead man.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
It looks like here.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Alan Stagg was a radio lifer disc jockey. He worked
on twenty radio stations in his forty year career, which
is wild because Tim Richards and I were having a
conversation about how few radio stations that.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I've had to work on.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, which is which is?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Which is pretty wild?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Wait when did you say that to you? Like, and
what situation? Where were you in that situation.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
He was a teacher at Columbia College and I think
it was my freshman year. I took a radio intro
to radio class or radio production class, and Alan Stagg
was the was the teacher, and.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
He did this whole big thing in the front of
the class.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
He said that to you in front of everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
He said it in front of everybody, and it became
kind of like the motivation And at the time I
was interning at B ninety six, and I was doing
kind of part time stuff, so.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
I had had already started.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, here's what Alan looked like.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's Allen's promo picture right there, and uh, well here
you go. Here's a better picture of Allan Rest in peace.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Allen Stag So he died in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, and he said.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And he said that to a group of us, and
one of the guys that was in the class, who
also was working in radio, said, hey, we should tell
him what we do, because we both.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
He was so to multiple people.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
He said it to the whole class. Oh, the whole class.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
He didn't say it's specifically. He said, none of you
guys are going to make it in radio. Basically, he said,
you guys are racing. And I don't know if that
was his way of trying to be motivation to us,
but his tone kind of kept that way throughout most
of the class. And I took it as honestly, like
a thing. There was twofold with that number one. Anytime
I go speak to a class, I never will tell

(29:14):
the kids that even though the opportunities to get into
radio or to get into any kind of entertainment is tough. Yeah,
and there is a chance, but I always will tell
them have a fallback, you know, just in case. But
I will say to them, which is so true. I
think nowadays you can't get a teaching job sometimes, you
know what I mean, You can't get a sometimes you

(29:35):
can't even get hired at you know, Kroger, you know,
just based on the way that the world is.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
So I was.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I will never tell somebody that they can't do it.
But I always was the type of person that had
to be coached by somebody that didn't give positive reinforcement,
but almost negative reinforcement.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
And maybe that.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Was that's why we're married.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Thank you for all the negative reinforcement that you've given
me the year.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
You are welcome.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
We're speaking of that on the next episode of this
We Don't podcast. We got to talk about one of
the bigger things that we have had some struggles with lately. Okay,
all right, great, you know what I'm talking about. I
don't what we had. We spent all night up talking
the other night. Do you remember that night, because I do,
because I did not get the greatest sleep that night.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Well, it was my negative reinforcement.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, no, it was actually honestly very positive, Okay, and
I'll end right there