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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Erica Kirk rises above Jimmy Kimmel, avoids the axe, and
President Trump gets stuck on the UN escalator. You can
get whiplash from this week's Did they really just say
that news bites? This is Nancy Shack, I'm Ben Parker.
This is news bite.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Father, forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That man than you man, I forgive him.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
The Magga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who
murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
All I got from the United Nations was an escalator
that on the way up stopped right in the middle.
If the first Lady wasn't in great shape, she would
have fallen. And then a tele prompter that didn't work.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
You know what they call an escalator.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That stops stairs. To be fair to you have Ben,
you gave it to me. You did know. But but
the big question now is did it stop on purpose?
That's there is a Secret Service investigation, no respect. I
got to say for anybody who was was unaware. President
Trump did a speech at the UN on Tuesday, and
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when he got there with the first lady instead of
taking an elevator, which to be honest with you is
how usually the President United States has moved around a
building that don't you normally allow you on an escalator,
to be honest with you, he uh, he and the
first lady head off toward the escalator and were heading
not up when it stopped abruptly, nearly sending the first
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lady tumbling down into the President. But as you heard,
she's in good shape and she didn't fall cut one d.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I ended war's dealt with the leaders of each and
every one of these countries and never even received a
phone call from the United Nations offering to help in
finalizing the deal. All I got from the United Nations
was an escalator that, on the way up stopped right
in the middle. If the first lady wasn't in great shape,
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she would have fallen. But she's in great shape.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
We're both in good shape. We both stood.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
And then a teleprompter that didn't work. This is These
are the two things I got from the United Nations.
A bad escalator and a bad teleprompter. Thank you very much,
and by the way, it's working now, just went on,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
That's more than I got from the US.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, I got it. I have to point out that
the escalator. I can't speak to the teleprompter, but the
escalator thing is kind of suspicious because this is what
happened two three days ago in the British papers, I
believe it was the Times. The London Times had somebody
from the UN saying they intended to stop the escalator
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as a protest against President Trump's cutting of their funding,
to show him it was kind of like in your face,
see our escalators don't work because you cut the funding
kind of thing. And that, of course is frowned upon
because first of all, you're leaving the president exposed in
the open air, and two you could have hurt somebody.
So the UN is not saying it was no, no,
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this didn't There was not deliberate. It just happened. It
was a coincidence that the President and the First Lady
were on the escalator. But the Secret Service is not
convinced and is currently investigating. So the question I have
for you is do you think it was deliberate or
do you think it was a bizarre coincidence that it
just happened to stop after somebody said that's what they
were going to do. When the President was on the escalator.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Sounds suspicious, and as a person who rarely, not never,
rarely believes in coincidences, it's quite possible somebody accidentally flipped
the switch.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, I think so, and in which case they're looking
at jail because they put the president of the United
States in danger. This was not a little thing that
they did. It may have may have seemed funny to
whoever did it. I got news for you. It wasn't.
And so I think you're gonna have a I think
you're gonna have a surprise.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
There was a story not long. I can't remember when,
so I'm not even going to try to pretend that
I do. But uh, there was an escalator at a
train station or something and it stopped abruptly. A lot
of people that seriously hurt because they all know you
fall down. To me, there's there's physics involved.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I was a d Ikea and you know they have those.
They had those. They don't have them anymore, but they
had escalators that you could take their big carts onto.
And something happened and it's and it's the one got
stuck and they started to pile up on each other.
People had to jump off of the escalator, which caused injuries,
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and my husband's like get up on the heart and
literally grabbed me and put me on top of the
cart so that we wouldn't get our ankles crushed by
carts that we were. I mean, it was Escalators can
be dangerous.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
One of the one of the biggest problems with the
IKEA escalators is that the customers are required to put
them together themselves. So that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But other than it can be, it can be. But besides,
there was another really funny moment at the UN we
present gave a decent speech, and besides the teleprompter and
the escalator issue, and that was the French President Emmanuel
Macrun was trying to be He was supposed to be
there for the speech. But guess what happened.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Escalator got stuck.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, they stopped traffic around the un for the president's
motorcade and the New York City cops would let Macron in,
so he called the president cut number ten. Oh you.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Guess what I'm awaiting is just because everything is pulled
in for you, So.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Are you, Sally?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
That's good thing he thought about.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
I mean, I've seen steel fall into but I would
love if we can.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He wanted to make sure that Trump didn't take it
personally that he wasn't there in his seat, he was
stuck outside with the cops.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
That's that is one of the times, one of the
very few times when do you know who I am
would be inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, my guess is my I wouldn't be surprised that
the New York City cop is sure you're the president
of France. Sure you are, yeah, macrons, you know, let
me call Donald Trump and does. And so the cop
is listening to the phone and sure enough, the President
of States. He picked up from a kron Good thing
he did. And he's like, oh gosh, you're stuck outside,
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you know, I mean that I found it. There was
a lot to entertain you at yesterday's UM speech. I'm
just saying, I'm.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Guessing, well, I mean, probably plenty of people have Donald
Trump's for it. But I was gonna say, if you
if you got the President of the United States phone
number on speed dial in your phone, you're probably fairly important, or.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think you are. Sort of Yeah, I think you are,
and I think you might take his word for it.
But it's interesting you see these things and people demonstrating
against President Trump by turning off the escalator. We think,
we're not sure. And it just made me wonder about
the path not taken. And I was in this particular case.
I'm thinking of Kamala Harris, who's on a book tour
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and so.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
You she's, well, what else would you do?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
She's not the president, So she's not the president, and
nobody wants her as governor or senator, apparently in California
or her home state. So she's on a book tour,
and it looks to me like she's trying to torpedo
other possible people who could run for president in twenty
twenty eight. That's what it just this is just a
guess because she's going after prominent democrats in her book.
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And I think a lot of it's backfiring on her
because she's on this book tour and she's coming across
like an idiot, to be honest with you. So if
she's thinking that this is going to rehabilitate her after
her big loss and make her more appealing to the
American people, I don't think that's going to work. And
which particular case here, she is on the view having
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some kind of weird word salary in about the light
inside people in a dark time Cut thirteen A.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
And I do believe that moving forward, we're going to
remember that the power ultimately is with the people, and
we have to remind folks that they cannot let their
light and their spirit be diminished by who happens to
be in the Oval office at this moment. And that's
part of what I hope to achieve with the book,
is to remind us people, by the tens of thousands,
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for those of you who were there, came to those
events with such enthusiasm and optimism and dare I say
joy about the possibilities for our country. And that light
is inside people. It's there, and it cannot be diminished
or extinguished by an election or an individual. And we
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have to remember that that light is inside us, and
it's inside each of us, and we have to see
it in each other and let that guide us through
this very dark time.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Do you have any idea what she just said of mind? Yeah,
something like that. And by the way, she is sincere
about talking to Joe Biden Cut seventeen A. I want
to know in the book for the book, did he
read the book. And do you speak to him now?
I do speak to him, yes, And how's that relationship.
It's a good relationshipah.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
And it's a relationship that is based on mutual respect,
having been in the trenches together.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, and an admiration. And it's sincere sincerely Okay, good
so much to know that you're friendly. It's sincerely, sincere,
We're sincerely.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
We're friendly. You know, if I was if I was mean,
I would ask if the copy of the book that
Joe Biden read had pictures was a picture?
Speaker 8 (09:50):
You know?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I don't if the book that Kamala read had pictures
in it, given this imagine, but she put her foot
in it in regard to trying to get other votes
in when she wrote the book, because in the book
she says she didn't pick Pete Boudhajig as her VP Kenneth,
she went with Tim Waltz. Timp on Tim instead because.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
He was gay.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That really did not help her with the LGBTQ plus community,
and so she had to go on MSNBC denying, no,
that's not what I said. That's not what I said.
Cut twelve A to say.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
That he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because he
was gay. It's hard to hear.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
No, no, no, that's not what I said that. That's
that he couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay.
My point, as I write in the book, is that
I was clear that in one hundred and seven days,
in one of the most hotly contested elections for president
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and United States, against someone like Donald Trump, who knows
no floor to be a black woman running for president
United States and as a presidential running mate a gay man,
with the stakes being so high, it made me very sad,
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But I also realized it would be a real risk.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Okay, so this is different than what she said.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, that's just it. She just said.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
No, I didn't say I didn't pick him because gay.
What I said was I didn't pick him because he
was gay. Right, that's what she just said.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
You're not hearing me, Even Rachel Madden. I was like,
what listen, you're not hearing me.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
It's not because he was gay that I didn't pick it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's because he wasn't gay.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
It was because he was gay that I didn't pick.
You didn't see me correctly.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
This is what I'm talking about. The path, not taken
is and nobody seems to be upset about the path
not taken. And that is proven by CNN data analyst
Harry Entton, who says, uh, her polls or she's swimming
with the fishes cut eighteen.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
I would just say that if you want a messenger
to go against Donald Trump, you can do far better
as Democrats than Kamala Harr. What are we talking about here, Well,
let's take a look at her net favorble ratings nationwide.
You know, back in October of twenty twenty four, she
was at minus five points, not exactly great, but pretty
close to the zero mark, right, pretty close to even.
But now down under she goes. She's at minus thirteen points.
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That's an eight point drop since the general election. Among
the overall electorate, she is not well liked at this
particular point. The American people, they don't want this, they
don't want her. And get this, she's thirty seven points
underwater with independence. If you can't win independence, you can't
win the election. And the bottom line is with those
in the center elector at those who are the most
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up for grabs, she is way way way underwater. She
is definitely swim with the fishes.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
By the way, if you're a if you're a Republican, yeah,
right now, right now, you start putting Kamala twenty twenty
eight signs on your lawn. Seriously, let's get a campaign
going Kamala twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, no kidding, I mean seriously. The Democrats are in
big trouble and they've been exposed for having no policy
that is helpful to anybody. They've been exposed as hypocrites
and liars, and that came home this week with Jimmy Kimmel,
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you know who brought the whole issue and the Demos
trying to make this a free speech issue. That Jimmy
Kimmel was was suspended for basically exercising the power of
free speech. It wasn't free speech that he was suspended for.
It was the fact that he lied. And after the
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murder of Charlie Kirk, he tried who was murdered by
a left wing activist, he tried to make it appear
as if it was Maga that murdered him. Cut eleven
a some new lows.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Over the weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying to
characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other
than one of them and everything they can score political
points from.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It really nothing to do with Maga guy, nothing to
do with Magga. Just out and out lied. And President
Trump even came. I hear he is on Air Force
one saying I'm sorry, but this was the And President
Trump says, it wasn't so much that he lied, it
was he's got no ratings and he lied Cut eleven.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
He did his show before I ran for politics. I
did this show many times and he was never one
of the top people. Do you remember during the Academy
Awards when he read by truth just before giving out
the best Picture of Work, and I said, and what
he read was that he's the worst host in the industry.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
In the Academy.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Look, Jimmy Kimmel suffers from two things.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
First of all, he said a terrible thing about Charlie,
but he also suffers from the fact that he's got
no talent and he's got no ratings, a deadly combination.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
That's deadly.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, I think it is deadly. And here's what's happened.
So they put him back on the air. They ended
his suspension. But the two biggest franchise affiliate groups that
carry millions of homes has said, we're not carrying him because,
first of all, we're losing money on him. One is
the biggest reason, I'm sure. And two, he just lied
on national time and did not apologize for it. He
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actually got on the air and said when he came
back and said, I wasn't tying the murder of Charlie
Kirk to any group. Well, I'm sorry, but he's an
Antifa member, so he belongs in one group, not in MAGA.
So I mean, he's just I don't think I think
what you're going to see. His contract is up in
the spring. I just think they're just not going to
renew it. I think is what's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
So a couple of quick things. First of all, what
he said, And look, I am a big free speech guy,
and I know some some comedians walk the line and
they tell jokes that are a little a little dark
or a little uh you know, over the edge, but
they're jokes and they're funny, or you don't find him funny.
That's he wasn't even being funny. He didn't tell it.
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He didn't tell a Kirk joke.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
He told a lie.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, look, tell a joke. Listen, tell a joke, and
if people are offended by the joke, I will defend
you to the hilt. I have told plenty of jokes
in my lifetime where after the joke you have to
say too soon, because I mean, the thing is you
can you can tell dark jokes, and then it's up
to the listener to say, well, that wasn't funny or
that joke for starters.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I did not agree with taking him off the air.
I am a strict constructionist when it comes to the
first Amendment. But in my opinion, if you don't like
what he has to say, first of all, you reprimand
I mean he has to find the network owner. I say, apologize,
you just lied. We put out a disclaimer. He lied. Sorry,
but you let him on the air. You don't watch him.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Everyone else can change the chair and they will.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And it's if the affiliates don't want to carry him,
because that is their prerogative. And I think the marketplace
takes care of people who lie and destroy their credibility,
and that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Here's the second point of it. He didn't tell a joke.
He told it lie anyway, So moving on, uh, boy
or boy, Jimmy Kimmel is as well known right now
as he ever has been in his entire career. Maybe
that was the point. And it's almost although he does
have some fame, so it's a little different, but it's
almost that fifteen minutes of fame. This is almost the
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fifteen minutes of spiked fame.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Like, yeah, his return, Jimmy, who had the highest ratings
I think he's ever had, because people like, what are
you going to say? But then two weeks from now,
it's going to be in the toilet again, especially when
you don't have the affiliates you had before because these
big companies like you, we don't want our name associated
with him, and because he lied, and and you know what,
here's the thing. You are entitled to say whatever you
want unless it's in a you know, crowded movie theater
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and you're looking to stampede people. Other than that, you
can really say what you want to say. But doesn't
mean you have a right to a job. And he
doesn't mean to have a right to job on my
station if I own that station. And so I'm taking
you off first of all, because you're losing me money.
That's the primary reason. And secondly, I don't want my
credibility to tied to yours.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
So want to hear a good joke. Sure, okay, knock knock.
Who's there, Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Jimmy Kimmel, who exactly? Uh huh So Jimmy Kimmel was
the low point of the week when it comes to
public statements. There was a high point that was awe inspiring,
literally sends a shiver down my spine. And that was
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at Charlie Kirk's memorial service when his widow, Erica Kirk,
who has been appointed the head of Turning Port USA,
her husband's activist group, when she came out, First of all,
she's an in credit, She's got a lot of presents.
She's a very articulate woman, very smart woman, and she
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did something that floored everybody. Literally, nobody could believe it.
Cut one bee, that young man, young man on the cross.
Our Savior said, Father, forgive them for they not know
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what they do.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
The applause didn't stop for quite some time after that.
I was absolutely floored by her grace and by her
ability to do that, because I'm not pretty sure I
couldn't do that, and I thought that was just just
by the way, amazing.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
I don't want to get into this, but I just
want to ask, kind of does it make me a
bad person to the fact that I wouldn't I don't
think I could forgive somebody who killed myself.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I don't think it makes you a bad person. I
think it makes her an extraordinary person. Maybe I think
I think I think you and I are more a
more human. I think the grace that she showed was
It's just like remember when Dylan Rufe killed those people
at the prayer circle that they invited him into their
prayer circle at the church and he mowed them all down.
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Their families at his trial forgave him, and I always
thought what extraordinary people they were, because I, without a doubt,
I think it's healthier for what they did for them
than to carry that anger. But the ability to do that,
I think is superhuman. And they exhibited that grace, and
so did she on a national stage, and I was
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floored by it, completely floored by it. There were a
couple of other nice moments. There was one she's talking
about of all things identifying her husband's body at the
Morgue cut two.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I also saw on his lips the faintest smile, and
that told me something important. It revealed to me a
great mercy from God in this tragedy. When I saw that,
it told me.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Charlie didn't suffer. Even the doctor told me.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was something so instant that even even if Charlie
had been shot in the operating room, it's itself, nothing
could have been done. There was no fane, there was
no fear, no agony. One moment, Charlie was doing what
he loved, arguing and debating on campus, fighting for the
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Gospel and truth in front of a big crowd, and
then he blinked, He blinked and saw his savior in paradise.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
It was.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It was an incredibly moving speech that she gave, eulogy
that she gave, and she just you know, blew everybody away.
And she was, you know, and she was up against
some pretty amazing speakers. I mean President Trump was there
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among others, and so it was I don't know who
couldn't be moved. Well that's false. I do know who
couldn't be moved. The Democrats this week made such a
poor showing quite a few of them. Now, there are
some who were horrified and who said they were horrified
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and put politics in their back pocket and were human beings.
But then there were those who were not, such as
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Here she is on CNN Cut twenty six.
Speaker 11 (22:40):
One of the things I do want to point out
that's not been laid out that honestly hurts my heart
is when I saw the no votes, there were only
two Caucasians. For the most part, the only people that
voted no were people of color. Because the rhetoric that
Charlie Kirk continuously put out there was rhetoric that specifically
targeted people of color, and so it is unfortunate that
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even our colleagues could not see how harmful his rhetoric
was specifically to us.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's a lie. By the way, he never did any
said anything. They put out there that he said certain things,
all of which are false. He didn't say anything. He's
never said anything that was racist against people of color.
But they want you to believe that because they, for
some reason want you to believe that he deserved what
he got. He deserved to be killed, which, by the.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Way, nobody. I don't care who they are, Even the worst,
worst of the worst, worst people you know, don't deserve
what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But in this case, they're trying to make him appear
they're literally lying about what he said. And there was
a really amazing instance of this with Congress Foman elon
Omar and CNN calling Charlie Cook reprehensible and trying to
get Caitlyn Collins, who did not like Charlie Kirk given
a little bit to join in and call him reprehensible,
and Caitlyn Collins knows that this is too far and
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won't go there. Cut twenty one.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man like
that is my view of the words that he has
said about every single identity that I belong to. He
didn't believe that we should have equal access to anything.
He also just didn't even believe I could be smart enough,
I could have thoughts that could be equal to a
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white man. Where are we missing this conversation about who
this man was and the things that he said? How
do you not do you not find that reprehensible?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Caitlin?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, do you do you think that I don't have that?
Speaker 12 (24:35):
But do you think I don't have the brain processing
power like you or a white man. Well, of course
I I think it's very clear here that if somebody
said that, when you say that, that would be reprehensible views.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
I think the argument that was being made. No, but
I am asking what we have heard.
Speaker 12 (24:50):
What I'm asking you is which you say that, But
you're asking her, how could I find him reprehensible? Like
that is reprehensible. You said it is reprehensible yourself. That
is fine, it's reprehensible and it is hateful.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, Caitlin Conns knows that she's just lied through her
teeth because Charlie Kirk never said that about black women.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Well, shember, and she's also trying to bait her. I mean,
she's got a big worm on the hook and she's like,
let me see if I can bait her. Here's the keyword.
Here's the keyword that Representative Omar used repeatedly, repeatedly.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Believe.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
First of all, I don't necessarily agree with everything you
believe or a politician believes. I probably didn't even believe
everything that perhaps Charlie Kirk believed or other people believe.
But that's it's a belief listen, we all have a
belief structure. Some people believe it's right, some people believe
it's wrong. Some people couldn't care less. Here's the thing.
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If we start taking people out for their beliefs, we
got a big problem in this country because it could
be you. It could be your neighbor, It could be
your sister, your brother, your cousin, your uncle. Belief is
the keyword there now. Now, if Charlie gonna use Charlie Kirk,
If Joe Blow believed that people will wear glasses are
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bad people, fine, I wear glasses. They believe what to one.
If he starts shooting people running them down with his car,
that's not a belief anymore. That's some kind of political statement.
Belief is the keyword that Omar used over and.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Over and over. It sure, but the problem is that
she lied about what Kirk's beliefs or you do not
believe that.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I understand. But my point is whatever she thinks he believed,
whatever he did believe is a belief. We all believe
in a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh, the point is that she knows that he didn't understand,
She's still she's putting out there a lie. The same
way Jimmy Kimmel at it.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
But she's also just I mean, I don't want to
go back and forth and round it circle on this
look it. You can't justify doing bad things to people
because of what they believe, whether they actually believe them
or not. My point is you want to get shot
because of how you feel about peanut butter, and which
is beliefs or beliefs in they're yours. Everybody else can
go screw okay anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But what the left is doing right now is very
much trying to distance themselves from the assassination of somebody
who's on the right, and that's what they've been doing.
So they're doing what you just heard Elon Omar do,
trying to, you know, cast lie about what Charlie Kirk believed,
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and you also find them this was funny. This is
Chuck Todd on the Chris Saliza podcast, melting down over
Trump designating Antifa as a terror organization because Antifa is
thought to be behind a lot of what's happened, including
Charlie Kirk's assassination, and he's trying to belittle the fact,
trying to ignore the fact that Antifa even existing. He
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doesn't even know what antifa is cut sixteen.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
It's going to be this executive order where they're going
to try to create a new classification for anybody on
the left who opposes Trump is so a member of
antifa and on terrorist Like this is coming and I
don't think we are fully now. I don't think there's
any depth the problem. Like I don't even know what
antifa is. I know what the definition of antifa is,
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and I know what the word means, but it's not
creat is no group, no, and so but what's dangerous
is that by designating it, who's going to define who
the group is? And if the Trump administration decides to say, you,
George Soros, are a part of this group that I
designated and you're like, no, I'm not, and it doesn't matter,
like they're going to then use that as some sort
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of potential opening. And I think that's what's so extraordinarily
dangerous about these designations.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So here's the thing. So you just I don't even
know what antifa is, right, Well, here's Chuck Todd on
NBC in twenty seventeen defining what antifa is. Cut sixteen
A welcome back.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
I'm joining now by two gentlemen with very different views
on how to respond to white supremacists when they take
to the streets. Mark Bray is a Dartmouth professor. He
was study the antifa anti fascist movement. Antifa is a
far left political movement that argues it's necessary to confront
hate groups, sometimes with force. Professor Ray is author of
the new book Antifa, The Anti Fascist Handbook.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He knew what it was in twenty seventeen, but now
you know, he doesn't now that he's off of NBC,
doesn't know what it means.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
What is antifa that you speak of?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yes, exactly so.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
And by the way, look, look, I know that that
that antifa is this. I don't want to just find
it wrong, but it's a wide net of people who
are on that side of the world and want to
confront these groups they don't like head on with violence
and whatever. It isn't like there's one person and then
one hundred people behind them. There's a little bit of
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a of a wave in terms of Antifa. But you
know what it is. I mean, come on, you know,
I mean you could make you could make that argument
about anything.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Right.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Christianity, we know it believes in Christ but there's all
different waves of Christianity, but you're not going to come
out and say, oh, I don't even know what Christianity is,
so I probably shouldn't thrown Christianity in there. People who
think I'm making fun of them. But the point is
antifa is you know what antief is, you just to
find it. But yes, okay, there's a guy over here
on the left, and a guy over here in the middle,
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and a guy over here, and I get that there's
but you can't just say o lord and teeths oh
I was asleep.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think this partly explains why he no longer works
for NBC. We end each week with a truth control,
and this week it is our champion truth controller, which
is President Trump. And it comes from defending champion, Yes indeed,
and it comes from the Kirk memorial. You heard earlier
of Erica Kirk forgiving her husband's murderer, and President Trump
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says she is a bigger man than I gunga din
cut eight a.
Speaker 13 (30:52):
In that private moment on his dying day, we find
everything we need to know about who Charlie Kirk truly was.
He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a
great great purpose.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
He did not hate his opponents.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
He wanted.
Speaker 13 (31:10):
The best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I hate my opponent and I don't want the best
for them.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
I am sorry Erica.
Speaker 13 (31:21):
But now Erica can talk to me and the whole
group and maybe they can convince me that that's not right.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
But I can't stand my opponent.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
What do you think. Do you think that President Trump
really hates his opponents or would he forgive the same
way Erica Kirk did.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
No, he wouldn't forgive the same way Erica Kirk did. Now.
I heard that when it happened, Yeah, and I thought, well, one,
that's Donald Trump, right, I mean he says what's kind
of like he does rattling around in his mouth. I
want to say, maybe not as far as it sounds
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like he went, but I think it's the truth. I
don't think he wants what's best for I mean I don't.
I think there is a that is a little bit
of Donald Trump. I think that's a little bit of
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
People, Yeah, and certainly a little bit of me.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Right, yeah, right, I mean, you have an opponent, especially
if if they really really are opposite you when they're
really dickheads. You know, I think it's easy to say that.
Now if you just argue about, you know, what are
we having for supper? That's maybe different. But I think
that's I don't want to say full blown truth. I
don't think as far as he sounded like he went,
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he would go. But I'm gonna go I'm gonna lean
more in the truth aisle there.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, I you know, I tend to agree with you,
but I like to know what people listening think. Do
you think he was telling the truth or is that
a troll that we just that we just played. It's
hard to tell sometimes with Donald Trump. You can contact
Ben and I at on x at news Bye three,
or you can contact us on Facebook at Newsbyte. We
upload a new episode every single Monday, so check back
(32:58):
next week and see what news we have. Have a
great week. I'm Nancy Shack.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I'm gonna go read up on Antifa. I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
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