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Former President Trump loses a lawsuit anddoes a CNN town hall All in the
same week. Congress zeros and onPresident Biden, and the border opens wide.
These are some of the topics wehave for you this week with our
very best. Did they really justsay that? Moments I'm Nancy Shack,
Ben Parker, this is news byquet was named Vagina. The judge weren't
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allowed to put that in, butwith her they can put in anything.
Access to jury of nine people whofound new liable of sexual abuse. Do
you think that that will deter womenfrom voting for you? Oh? I
don't think so. This committee isinvestigating President Biden and his family shady business
deals that capitalize on Joe Biden's publicoffice and risked our country's national security.
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He does a puzzle pas Hey,back up, back up, I have
no idea what that was saying he'sgot a bad mouth. Well, that
was an illegal immigrant attacking a cameracrew in El Paso, Texas, just
two days before Title forty two waslifted. He kept insisting that he was
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an American too, because he hada card with a hearing date on it.
Because they gave him a card fora hearing date so that meant he
was an American. It wasn't green, by the way. It was just
a card, by the way.And of course I know, I know
what title forty two is, andI know what title nine is, and
you know there's all these different titles. But it's you would think, you
know, it'd be it would bereally convenient for most of us if when
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they changed laws or changed like inthis case, title forty two was going
away and they're reverting back to thedeal, they should just say, all
right, now we're on title fortythree and next will be on title forty
four, like upping your password andyou have to change your pass something like
that, as opposed to the nextnumber. Yeah, because they're going I
think, I think going back tolike title eight. Isn't that Yes,
But it happened before title forty two. So that's why it's I move forward,
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you know, I mean, wegot to look forward. You're just
lifting title forty two out. Titleeight was underneath there all the time,
and now it's well, it's likeit's like the Constitution, right, we
had the prohibition and then we repealedprohibition, and it was it was a
later number because we changed the deal. Whether we went backwards or forwards was
irrelevant. So like a title fortytwo, let's not go back to title
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forty Title forty two is a temporarymeasure understand the pandemic. So let's make
that now. Let's make the nextmeasure title forty three. We could we
could have made it title just keeptelling. But what you heard that was
a Mexican man whose confronts who confrontsthe press recording what's going on in al
packs pass though as it's being overrun, and he just basically said, bleep
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Americans, which shows you kind ofa sense of entitlement of people coming across
the border. That is cut fortyfour. Ave I got another ticket for
helping my people out, another thickhe bro I got two of them this
week's first one we're giving out water. For the third one, we're giving
up food to helping up my people. You guys, American Postle Postle PD.
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If the patrol, hey, backup, back up, hit me.
Now you're gonna say, you're gonnasee what happened. You start destroying
quimming out here, You come up, start yelling out a camera like a
fool, and you want to knowwhy people are squstioning my people, sir,
you own them, so you're you'rean owner. No, these are
my race. This is my bloodline. Read the mool and they're all
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my blood life. Guess what weare in American it's a free country.
If you don't like it, ifyou don't own an American soon you can
go. Okay, then understand theconstitation. It meant constitician. But he
was I'm an American too. He'sgot his card for a hearing in three
years. That's what are you're saying. So that's basically title forty two,
much to Ben's dismey um, andit's numbering. I was lifted last night
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at the time we're doing this podcast, and uh secretary of my orcis says,
whatever happens at the border in chaos, it's Congress's faults. It's not
the Biden administrations. Cut twelve bour current situation is the outcome of Congress
leaving a broken, outdated immigration systemin place for over two decades, despite
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unanimous agreement that we desperately need legislativereform. It is also the result of
Congress's decision not to provide us withthe resources we need and that we requested.
Our efforts within the constraints of ourbroken immigration system are focused on ensuring
that the process is safe, orderly, and humane, all while protecting our
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dedicated workforce and our communities. Now, the interesting thing to me about my
archist who spent over an hour talkingto the White House Press Corps as we
were waiting for Title forty two tobe lifted, was not only did he
spend his time blaming Congress for whateveris going to happen, and he also
spent a great deal of time suckingup to the border patrol, which was
very interesting to me because he's hada very fractious relationship with the border patrol.
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Did everybody remember when there was anissue of a mounted border patrol and
there were some Haitian refugees and theywere trying to steer the horses and they
were whipping the horses with the reins, and then a photograph from a bad
angle was taken and people thought theywere whipping Yeah, the people they worked,
And there was an investigation that provedthey didn't. They weren't touching anybody
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that had nothing to do with thepeople. But at the time of the
whipping, instead of waiting to seewhat happened. This was Secretary Majorchis.
This is back in twenty twenty one. That's cut sixteen B. I directed
that the Office of Professional Responsibility bepresent on site in del Rio twenty four
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to seven to ensure that the conductof our personnel adheres to our policy,
to our policies, to our training, and to our values. I was
horrified to see the images. Andwe look forward to learning the facts that
are reduced from the investigation, andwe will take actions that those facts compel.
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We do not tolerate any mistreatment orabuse of a migrant period. Okay,
so that was him and the Presidentjumped on that same bandwagon. That's
sixteen A. It was horrible whatto see you as you saw, to
see people treat it like they did. Courses very right, and over people
being strapped. It's outrageous. Ipromise you those people will pay. They
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will be an investigation underway now andthere will be consequences. There will be
consequences. It's an embarrassment, butit's beyond an embarrassment. It's dangerous.
It's wrong. It sends the wrongmessage around the world, or sends the
wrong message at home. It's simplynot who we are. Well, it's
simply not what happened. Well,that's just you know, it sends the
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wrong messages shooting off your mouth beforeyou know what happened. But you know
what, they've never apologized. Theymeeting the administration. This was Jen Saki
when Peter Doocey asked her if shewould apologized because they at this point in
time when he asked her the question, they had found out that no criminal
charges would be brought because the investigatorsshowed that it never happened. Sixteen f
We've been told that the Mounted BorderPatrol officers the President accused of whipping migrants
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have been notified they will not facecriminal charges. So when is the President
going to apologize to them? Thereis a process and an investigation that's gone
through the Department of Homeland Security.I don't have any update on that.
The President said that they were whippingpeople, which would be a criminal offense,
and they've been told they're not goingto be criminally and there was an
investigation into that, and I'll letthe Department of Homeland Security announce any conclusion
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of that investigation. You accused theseofficers of brutal and inappropriate measures. Now
that they've been told they will notbe criminally charged, will you apologize?
And Peter, there was an investigationinto their behavior, so that investigation is
playing out. Whenever it's going tobe announced, the Department of Homeland Security
will announce that and I'm sure we'llhave a comment on it after that.
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Yeah, but they didn't. Theynever apologize. So this is what happened
yesterday. So they put it outthere about the story about whipping. They
whipped it up so that people wereknown, pun intended, so that the
mainstream media, I mean Maxine Waterswas out there is likening it to slavery.
The mainstream media was on top ofit. They never apologized to the
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border patrol agents who were vilified bythem when the investigation completely cleared them,
and then this happened yesterday. Cutsixteen. The southern border is not just
Mexicans, it is Haitians. It'sAfricans every week, as we've seen,
particularly with that issue with the Haitiansbeing whipped with the reins or the courses.
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But what is there, Well,let me just correct you right there,
because actually the investigation concluded that thewhipping did not occur. I'm sorry,
I saw it differently. They werewiped with something from the horse,
ranged from a horse. I maybeeither the video or the picture was fixed,
but what I saw was totally different. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm
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gonna leave you as corrected. Theywere so the press don't even believe them
now when they tell the truth.When he's corrected, he well, remember
that was by the ways, AprilRyan from the Grio. Yeah, I'm
not sure. I mean, she'sjust seems like it seemed like and I'm
saying seemed like because I have noidea didn't do her follow up work on
the story because she Oh no,she did the follow up work. She
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just chose not to believe it.She later explained she she has thousands of
tweets and articles about this, allwhich happened after the investigation. She's a
member that she knew about the investigation. She doesn't care. As far as
she's concerned. The story that theyfirst put out there is the story that
she wants. So we're gonna goto the one we like best. That
how we do this now? AndI blame I blame Secretary my Orchis and
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President Biden who did not apologize andclear it up. You know a year
ago when they should have. Bythe way, I have over over history.
Um, there's there's a lot ofstories I'd like to change. So
you know, maybe maybe we canuh, you know, just run with
the uh moon landing was fake,and maybe we can run with who killed
Kennedy and we can run with awhole bunch of face. So I didn't
know. I didn't know that.Well, I didn't know that the media
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got to choose which what was trueand what wasn't true. I mean,
we know that that well, weknow that that happens, but it gets
your report on its facts. Butthey don't get to and I get you
what's real, And I get itat the time if if they chose to,
they could have run with a thesethese people were whipped. Look at
this picture. We can show youthat. But then you run the retraction
when you find out you were areal Hello, yeah, no, no,
you used to run retraction. Yes, it doesn't happen now, it's
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just like we'll just hope that fadesoff into the sunset. And by the
way, in the old days,right you had the newspaper or the TV
or the radio, and you hadthe report, and then that was the
end of it. See see insome people's worlds, because it's still on
Twitter, social media, it stillexists. It's still it's still real.
Yeah, because it's still Look,I went back and I saw this is
real. Well no, no,no, no, you've got to fast
forward to where they changed the storybecause that was wrong. This is right.
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No, no, no, I'mgonna go with the one I like
better. Okay, But this isone of the more interesting aspects, or
this is the thing that struck melistening to this exchange with April Ryan and
the Secretary Myorchis yesterday, because theydidn't Besides the fact that you have people
like April Ryan refusing to believe wouldactually happened, you also have a really
bad relationship now between the Secretary ofHomeland Security and the Border Patrol, who
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are really and in my opinion,justifiably pissed off of the fact that they
never apologized or really cleared it inthe press that these people did not do
what they were accused of doing bySecretary Myorchis and by the President. So
it's a really bad relationship. Sofor the first time yesterday, as the
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border is being overrun by migrants andthey need every Border Patrol agent they have.
Now he is correcting the story,and now he is also sucking up
to them the life so which I'venever seen cut fifteen c. Border patrol
facilities are overcrowded and some migrants haveto be released. Does that send the
very message you're trying to avoid,which is that people will be released into
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the interior. So I have tosay do things in response. Number One,
we cannot overstate the extraordinary talent andheroism of the United States Border Patrol
and the personnel of the Department ofHomeland Security that are managing through an extraordinary
challenge and doing so successfully. Numberone. Number two, it is very
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important to understand that the great majorityof people will be removed if they do
not qualify for relief under the lawsof the United States. You know,
it's just by the way. TheBorder Patrol is doing a great job.
Never mind what you heard when Ithrew them all under the bus and then
rolled over them with the bus.Yeah, never mind that we did a
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guilty Now that we need them stuckup, suck up, stuck up.
Only when we need that great people, well, I mean now help,
Oh my god. So, butthe border patrol. We're not the only
people that are like running off theirfeet this week, Congress. A lot
of people may be surprised to hearthis Congress has been really busy this week.
In particular, one committee, andthat's the Oversight Committee, led by
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Representive Comer, has been spending theirtime decoding Biden business deals, and they
had a press conference this week totell us what they had found. Cut
forty six. Since taken the gavelin January, the Committee on Oversight and
Accountability has accelerated its investigation of theBiden family's domestic and international business practices that
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we began last Congress. I wantto be clear, this committee is investigating
President Biden and his family's shady businessdeals that capitalize on Joe Biden's public office
and risked our country's national security.This committee has a duty to ask questions
and pursue the fact no matter wherethey take us. And apparently this swamp
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of Biden business dealings was a lotbigger than we thought. Cut forty six
A. We want to discuss informationthe Committee has learned since our last press
conference in November. New information investigatorsand have uncovered regarding the transfer of money
from foreign entities to the Biden family. Many of the wire payments occurred while
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Joe Biden was Vice president and leadingthe United States efforts in these countries,
and everybody thinks, oh, China, China, China. Well we found
out that it wasn't just China involvedCut forty seven. First instance, while
Vice President Biden was lecturing Romania onanti corruption policies, in reality, he
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was a walking billboard for his sonand family to collect money. Hunter Biden
and his associates capitalized on a lucrativefinancial relationship with the Romanian national who was
under investigation for and later convicted ofcorruption in Romania. The Bidens received over
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one million dollars for the deal,and sixteen of the seventeen payments to their
associate's account that funneled the Biden's moneyoccurred while Joe Biden was Vice president,
and there was more information to JimJordan, who's on the oversight committee,
he's the representative from Ohio, saidthat during the Obama administration. The Obama
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administration, there were one hundred andseventy suspicious activity reports regarding Biden family dealings.
That's cut sixty five suspicious activity reports. The key word in that phrase
is the word suspicious. There areone hundred and seventy of those reports,
many of them put together by theTreasury Department of our government in the Obama
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Biden Admit illustration, So one hundredand seventy of those that the committee has
reviewed. Thousands of pages of bankrecords the committee has reviewed, and that
has told us that there are nowmultiple, as mister Donalds just said,
multiple LLCs receiving money from foreign entitiesand paying that money out to multiple members
of the Biden family. And thefundamental question is the one Byron just raised
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for what what did they do?What was the business? What service did
they provide? What value did theyadd? What did they do to warrant
receipt of the money? That isthe fundamental question. And no one seems
to have an answer to that fundamentalquestion. Maybe they were doing landscaping or
something. Well, then there'd bea lands there'd be a raker or something,
but there isn't. They don't haveany They got nothing, They got
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no business other than the family names. Usually, if you get money,
you get it for something, right, you do something like somebody shovels your
driveway. I've always believed that apparentlyI've been wrong, Well silly, Apparently
you can do it for other things, for nothing or nothing. Yeah,
but they're just beginning. And nowthere's a standoff over a particular whistleblower document
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that both Senator Grassley and Congressman Commerare trying to get from the FBI,
and the FBI says, yes,we have it, Yes it's a public
document, but no, we're notgoing to give it to you. You
know me of course, And I'llplay devil's advocate for a second here.
And this, by the way,this problem was created by the government mostly
when there's like there's no, no, no, no, no, not
that problem. Let me finish mystatement. So they've got all this evidence,
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they come out they say, we'vegot this evidence. It shows this,
this and this, now this.In this case it's Biden. You
know, because of the political natureof the country and where we are,
it doesn't matter if they come outwhatever they come out and say, half
the country is going to be like, yeah, that's bfs, that's you're
just doing it because you got andyou know, because what you're going to
hear and what you've already heard iswell they're doing this because the Democrats went
after Trump. And the problem is, I look, I didn't do the
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investigation. I wasn't there when anylandscaping was paid for, whatever the case
may be. So I don't know. I mean, I know what I
hear, just like every other American. But we have a problem in this
country where it doesn't matter short offinding Joe Biden or Donald Trump or Fred
Finkelstein, it doesn't matter with agun in their hand smoking, No,
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half the people are going to belike, nap, didn't do it,
na that this is this is theRepublicans going after Biden. And then you
know, if if some Republican getsinvestigated, most people will be like,
man, that's just the Democrats goingafter the Republicans. This is kind of
where we are in this country.Because I've already heard that. I mean,
I heard the press conference the otherday and and and responses from the
other side. This is just thisis just paid value. You know.
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It's like the witch hunt is anice word that gets thrown around by everybody
nowadays. Which we had witch hunts. It was back in the sixteen hundreds,
and we haven't really done witch huntsanymore. We do a lot of
them, we just don't, youknow, they're just not with pointy hats
anymore. Yeah, that's no.They didn't even have had twenty hats in
the sixteen hundreds. Yeah they did. Really, that's where they come from.
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Not the women, though. WhatI'm saying is that where they come
No. No, what I'm sayingis most of the women who got executed
in Salem or wherever they were pilgrims, well they weren't running around with you
know, the tradition. They didn'tlook like the wicked witch of the West,
just relatively normal people who got accusedof being witches. Anyway, we're
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drifting. But yes, so everything'sa witch hunt. And that's the problem
I have and the reason I said, the government's kind of created this.
Look, we've got this divided countryon everything. You pick a topic and
tell me it's not divide to fiftyfifty unless it's maybe I don't know,
like after September eleventh, we allkind of came together for a common cause.
But mostly it's like, oh,you found evidence against Joe Biden for
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doing something wrong, it's a witchhunt. Oh you found truth stuff about
Trump going to stuff, that's awitch hunt. So nobody believes. Half
the people don't believe most of thestuff. And that's the problem I have.
Okay, I mean, you cantell me if I'm wrong, but
I just I mean, that's reallywhere we're at. Know, I've gotten
I'm tired of the topic. Yeah, so yeah, off down with the
witch hunts. Yeah. Actually,the biggest show this week a lot of
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people are also tired of, whichwas Trump versus CNN. It was build
as a town hall but ended upbeing somewhat of a debate between former President
Trump and the host, Caitlin Collins. She I understand and you may disagree
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with me, Ben, I don'tknow, But as if you were hosting
a town hall, you asked thequestion you think that they the guest has
made a misleading answer. You say, well, you know, I disagree
with you because I have data thatshows this or this, and then you
stop right and then but she didn't. She kept pushing back and pushing back
and pushing back. So the peoplethought this was a freaking debate. Cut
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seventeen. Some of your Republican rivalshave criticized you for not fulfilling the promises
that you made on the campaign trail, like finishing the border wall. So
how did voters know that you wouldget those done if you're re elected.
I did finish the wall. Ibuilt a wall. I built hundreds of
miles of wall, and I finishedit. And then I said, we
have to build some more because thereare areas, like water going through a
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damn there are some areas where alot of people are coming. You close
up one and they come into another. And we started another hundred miles of
wall. In fact, I saidto my people, if we start this
and don't finish it, and thenwe had a rigged election, I'm sorry
to say it, and so youcan. Then they took over and they
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decided not to finish it. Ordertaken them three weeks. I built hundreds
of miles of wall. I don'tknow about you, Benjamin. I don't
know whether if you agree or notwhether the election was rigged. I find
it really obnoxious that the host istelling the guests what they can and can't
say. You can't keep saying that, yeah, he can, you can
say whatever. You don't have toagree with him, you don't have to
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support him, but he can.Yeah, here's part of the issue.
And there are debates and there aretown halls, and there are interview I
mean, there's all kinds of waysyou can present, uh, talking to
someone. Right, you have fivecandidates on that's a debate, right,
they debate each other. The debateshould not ever be between the journalist,
reporter, whoever and one candidate.By the way, I feel the same
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way if that was Joe Biden sittingthere. You're interviewing even if former president
how many million? Yeah, andyou know you might throw out a once
in a while like well, youknow, I just read this morning in
the Times, or people have saidthis this, but you you're not debating
them. You nobody gives a crapwhat you think. You're just asking questions
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so that people can you know,the old adage, right, we report,
you decide. That's kind of thedeal. You talk to the candidate.
You let people get the information.Sure, if something egregious, if
they say this guy is green,you got to interject. However, that's
just not the place here. Anotherthing, I'm not sure I know why
he did it, obviously, butI mean, listen, Donald Trump is
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going into a CNN debate or aCNN town hall. It wasn't going to
be friendly. Five I mean,there was obviously, and he obviously didn't
expect to fire, right, Butyou know, I think he the reason
why I did it was to reachan audience that he doesn't normally reach,
and I understand that. But shejust, in my opinion, he looked
better than she did. Whether youthink he's crazy or not isn't the issue.
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I think the fact that she wasso argumentative over and over again made
her look bad and out of control. It happened again. They were talking
about a Georgia call cut seventeen C. And if this call was bad,
why didn't him and his lawyers hangup? How dare you say that this
was a p They were fairly concernedenough they recorded the call. And I
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should note that this was a callthat was made to question the results of
election, and we have and whenwe can't make a call to question election
results, then this country would tojust forget about it. You weren't just
questioning the election, as I alwaysfind you votes And I should note that
there is no evidence of fraud.There is no rigged election in the state
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of Georgia. There is no Imean, she was like a broken record
over and over again. I know, But by the way, and you
asked me what I think about therigged election, So let me just throw
this out in more general terms.But um, there's and this is not
the way Trump and a lot ofhis followers have been pushing it right.
They're saying that they stuffed ballot boxesor didn't count ballots or whatever. There
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is. I think the I thinkthe issue that could be made, and
maybe this is the one they shouldmake the whole they throw away ballots or
they put new ones in that one, that one's kind of da But the
election still could have been quote unquoterigged because as everyone knows, a vast
majority of the media not all,not all, not all, but wanted
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Biden to win, wanted Trump tolose, and rigged how they reported on
the election. That I think isa bigger, more important statement. That's
very interesting because you can say theelection was rigged, but not mean it
was rigged like they threw away ballotsand craft, but because most of the
media stuff coming out was rigged sopeople would like Biden more than Trump.
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I think that's a really good point. I think that's a very very right
thinking. Sometimes on the toilet andstuff whatever, TMI. Yeah, but
thank you. Thank you for that. There was a Trump did have a
very interesting gotcha moment when Caitlyn Collinswas talking, was asking him the question,
why didn't you tell people to gohome earlier? Why didn't you respond
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to the January sixth earlier? Andhe reached into his breast pocket and I
have to explain to you before youhear the cut and pulled out a transcript
of his Twitter feed that day whichshowed at that day and the day before,
both January sixth and January sixth,to show that he did tell people
to go home while it was happening. But Twitter took it down. But
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it was a very interesting moment.Cut eighteen A. You did tell your
supporters to come to Washington. Youtweeted about it, about the speech to
happen on the rally when they whenthey went to the Capitol and they were
aking into the Capitol, smashing windowsand drink police officers. Why why did
it take me three hours to tellthem to go home? I don't believe
it did. Let me pull itout. I have to pull it out.
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So so if you look at onJanuary fifth, the day before,
I said, police support our capitolpolice and law enforcement. They are truly
on the side of our country.Stay peaceful, Stay peaceful. This was
the day before, and this wasin the form of Twitter. Now use
truth, truth social I think it'sfar superior. Okay, I hope everybody's
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are I hope everybody's our truth.So he pulled it out and then he
explained it a little bit more ineighteen B. If you look januarys exists
at two before two thirty. Iam asking for everyone at the US Capitol
to remain peaceful. This is rightafter as it was happening. But what
happened is they took it down down. I don't know why. I think
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they took it down because it wasso good. They didn't like it being
up there. I am asking thisis and we didn't know until I got
it back because now I have ninetymillion people waiting for me to go back.
But I'm on truth that I'm stayingon truth. Listen, I am
asking for everyone at the US Capitalroom made peaceful, no violation, that
we want no violation. We wantno violence. Remember we are the party
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of law and order. Respect thelaw, and our great men and women
in blue. Thank you. Thatwas a two thirty that was very early,
mister President. I looked at thesame timeline that you did. You
did you know why because it waswe did report it when it was Yeah,
it was taken down. So she'sshe's fibby. She fipped a couple
of times there up to me thebiggest moment, not the biggest moment,
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but one of the funnier moments.One of those moments when I did I
just hear that? You know?One of those did he just really say
that? Was he was talking aboutE. J. Carroll, the woman
who just won her civil suit forI against him for sexual abuse at thirty
years ago, and he basically wastalking about how the judge was unfair and
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allowed all sorts of extraneous evidence inagainst him but not against her. And
he had a very particular example ofthat, which you heard in the open
eighteen c Her dog or her catwas named Vagina. The judge weren't allowed
to put that in all of thesethings, but with her they could put
in anything. Access called jury ofnine people who found you liable of sexual
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abuse. Do you think that thatwill deter women from voting for you?
Oh? I don't think so,because I think the whole thing just so
you understand, ready, I nevermet this woman. I never saw this
woman. This woman said, Imet her at the front door of bergdof
Goodman, which yeah, he sworein his children and everything. But first
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of all, I don't know aboutyour reaction, Ben. My first reaction
was who has a cat named Vagina? And secondly, did I just hear
a former president then I says,used the word vagina during a town hall.
I mean there were two interesting respectfacts, your facts. I mean,
if that was the cat's name,then then then so be it.
There you got to say that ran, that's the deal. So what's your
dog's name? Penis? I mean, that's just maybe it's just bizarre.
Yeah, but this is you cannever tell what you're gonna get with.
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By the way, wouldn't wouldn't you? And I know that block the kids
ears just in case because I alwayslike to be careful. Even though this
is a podcast, we can sayit. Um, wouldn't pussy have been
a better name for the cat?I agree? I'm just saying I agree.
So what do you do when yougo to the vet? This is
my cat, Vagina? Did yougive it a nickname? No? What's
better is when you call up tomake the appointment. You say, yes,
I'd like to come in and havesomeone take a look at my bringing
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vagina. I want someone to lookat my vagina. Vagina. Wait a
second, you've got the wrong doctor. The guyacologist is down the street.
This is the veterinarian. What's thenickname ginny? I mean, what is
the what you call the cat BJG. Oh my god, that's that's right.
Would be good. So CNN wasfit to be tied over what they
had. But they're the ones whodid it. They're the ones who arranged,
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agreed to it. Put kay.They're the ones who did it.
And they were horrified. This wasAnderson Cooper's response to what he just saw.
Cut three B. The man youwere so disturbed to see and hear
from last night. That man isthe frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president
and accord in polling, no otherRepublican is even close. That man you
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were so upset to hear from lastnight. He may be president of the
United States in less than two years. And that audience that upset you,
that's a sampling of about half thecountry. They are your family members,
your neighbors, and they are voting, and many said they're voting for him.
Now, maybe you haven't been payingattention to him since he left office.
Maybe you've been enjoying not hearing fromhim, thinking it can't happen again,
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some investigation is going to stop him. Well it hasn't so far.
So if last night showed anything,it showed it can happen again. It
is happening again. He hasn't changed, and he is running hard. You
have every right to be outraged todayand angry and never watched this network again.
But do you think staying in yoursilo and only listening to people you
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agree with is going to make thatperson go away? You have every right
not to watch this and TV.Well noways watching them anyway, So what's
the difference, by the way,all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna do
a little conspiracy theory moment here fora second because my initial thought, and
you know, we all have initialthoughts when we hear things that Donald Trump
was going to do us basically asit down this town hall on CNN.
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Yeah, I like many people withaudience members, well, right, I
like many people when what because Imean, look Trump and Trump CNN,
Right, So My first thought,Yeah, look, we know that the
hardcore left isn't voting for Trump.Some of the hardcore right might not either,
depending on whether DeSantis is in orsome other people. So here's my
conspiracy theory. CNN doesn't want ToaldTrump to be the next president. They
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didn't want to be the last president. But they don't want him, So
we put Trump on, We tryto give him enough of an audience so
he wins the Republican primary, andthen America is not going to vote for
him because they didn't last time.It's almost like they're trying to make sure
Trump gets there because they think thatif he does, then the Democrats will
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hold the White House. I don'tknow if there's truth and that, Like,
I don't Maybe they're scared that ifit's de Santis, he will beat
Biden, or if it's somebody elseon that ticket, they will beat Biden.
And maybe they feel the only waythat they can not have Biden lose
reelection is to get Trump back inthere, because Biden has already beaten Trump,
ergo he could do it again.I kind of felt like that was
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CNN's m that we're going to helpBiden indirectly by helping Trump with his core
his base, the Republicans. Becausethe first thing that the turn pass to
do is win the Republican primary.It's irrelevant if he loses. So if
he wins the Republican nomination, wealready think Biden can beat him because he
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did it before. So that wasmy initial. I don't think that that's
far fetched. I don't think thatyou're you're out there. I don't.
But I think that there was amore immediate reason why they did this and
that and I understand why Trump woulddo it. Well, maybe that could
be. I think that Trump didit to reach people who aren't his core
audience because he's already got his coreaudience, so he was reaching for other
people. I think CNN did itbecause they're thinking of Caitlyn Collins for Don
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Lemon's old slot at nine o'clock,and this was going to be her her
step up into that. But Ithink it backfired. I don't know.
I don't know Caitlin Collins from ahole in the wall, and and I
know snark she well, I mean, and people do you know when they're
because she's not a household name.Um, so people went yes, that's
why I think they were doing well. Yeah, but so people people when
they start in their career, like, she may end up being a really
whiz bang freaking CNN anchor someday.I don't know, but but but my
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initial thought on that was, also, don't you have one of your stars
interview the former president? I suspectthe stars aka yes, exactly understand Cooper
will Flitts are like, yeah,no, thanks. Trying to cut back,
they had they had a staff meetingand went show a hands, who
wants the interview Donald Trump? AndCaitlin was the only one who put her
hand up, and they went,you got it. No, yeah,
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they saw what happened to Chris Wallace. They wantn't Maybe that was but a
CNN you would think we got alot of players here. I put a
big player. I suspect they wantedto, and the big players are like,
yeah, no, you know,I'm going to give that a pass.
Caitlin, you want to give ita shot. And Caitlin, if
you do it, maybe maybe we'llput you in at nine. Yeah.
I think I think that's what happened. I mean, I have no idea
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speculating on a lot of stuff.By the way, it might be far
fetched and out of this world,but sometimes we're right. But sometimes sometime,
sometimes the craziest things end up beingthe things that are correct. Nobody's
more surprised than us. So usuallywe like to end the week with a
Bidenism. So I've a lovely onefor this week. Um. The President
was at a born was at ascreening at the White House of a movie
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called American Born Chinese. Um,and he's hailing American born Chinese people like
Vera Wang and Joan Shigakawa, whoas a director, but he cannot pronounce
shiga Kaw his name to save hislife. Cut eleven, I honored a
group of trail raiding artists with NationalMedals of Arts and Humanities. The group
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included groundbreaking Asian Americans like Very Wangand and Joan Shang Shanga Koowa, I
think I pronounced it correctly. Shecan call me Joe bidden. Yeah.
Oh my gosh. You put apronouncer up in front of him, and
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you shouldn't have any problem. Youdon't, just just some people who don't.
I mean, we we work withpronouncers all the time. Politicians work
with pronouncers all the time. Thatmeans, in your teleprompter, in your
script, next to any name that'seven remotely difficult to pronounce, is phonetically
spelled the name, so that allyou have to do is read the phonetics.
So you would, you know,in this particular case with shiga Kawa,
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you would move like shig s higyou know, uh, with a
letter uh cow coow h Chigakawa.That's all you gotta do, and all
you to just read that pronouncer.You don't have to read the other name
even and I'm I guarantee you therewas a pronouncer in his in him sometimes
I transcribe, I know, readingreading phonetic spellings of things, it is
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sometimes harder than reading that because youknow, you gotta be like, okay,
well, you know, I justfind that difficult. Here's what I
do in the news. Uh.And a lot of times, you know,
if it's if it's some random personwho we don't know, like somebody
who get arrested. We arrested twelvepeople, we don't even mention names,
right, But but in this case, sure Sigakawa, right, yeah,
okay, So so if I hadthat name in my news and I didn't
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know how to say it. Iwould see the pronunciation. I would say
it so many times to myself.Second nature two right. So when you
get out there, you go hey, and I want to thank blah blah
blah saw yeah and not shoe ever, And I feel bad. I always
feel bad for people who can't pronouncethings, because we've all in radio had
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a brain fart. But he caneither at right point, but you couldn't
you know what, five minutes surprisehe got vera wang out. Five minutes
before you go on stage, justsit down in your chair in the oval
office and go sugar, sugar,sugar, sugar, sugar, especially when
you're gonna be in front of aroom full of Asian America. Yeah,
yeah, which is by the way. And and just if I go to
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a restaurant and it could be anAsian restaurant, it could be Greek,
it could be Italian, it couldbe anything. If if I don't if
I don't know how to pronounce themeal, because sometimes you see a thing
and you go, well, thatsounds good. Points number seven number seven
plays. Maybe he should have hada program for his that's maybe here's the
idea. Whenever he has people thathe has to introduce. He has like
either a board up on the onthe like where everybody can see it above
(37:44):
his head, or he hands outlike a fiery all right, so listen
number four, Hell of a job. Number two. We're really proud of
you. Thanks for all your numberseven. Yeah, so maybe you should
just like like a men, youwent a restaurant that has numbers on it,
instead of saying the actual well,were just just say the number number
one, Good job, thank you, carry on. I think that's brilliant.
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Okay, um. I want peopleto think about a question just because
I'm really interested in the answer thatwe get back over the next week,
and that is do you think theCNN town hall helped or hurt President Biden?
Or or or did it help orhurt CNN? I want to know
who you think was helped or hurtby any of them that that cluster bleep
that was on the air. I'mjust really intrigued to people's perceptions. So
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let us know. You can contactBen and I on Twitter. We're at
newsbite three any wsby t E three. We're also on Facebook um at news
bite um there as well. Youcan also go to sandyshack dot com by
the way, let's go to that. But I don't mean to interrupt you,
but I wanted to get this out. Um. The former president on
CNN just we played the con um. He encouraged us to get on truth
(38:52):
socials. Have we got a placethere? We don't. But I leave
if you want to open. Ithink I'm just asking. I mean,
I don't look. Look, Itend to want to send people to a
few places as possible because I don'twant to dilute things. But did I
find us when it comes to socialmedia? I think that's a good idea
when it comes to social media,or I know there's a ton of it,
and I know some of that leansleft, some leans right. Something.
It's a neutral blah blah blah.I don't think like being on a
certain website or a certain social mediais a bad thing if you're reaching people
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I agree with. Like people wouldsay, oh, you'll run true social
so you're a Trump we want tobe where, Well, we've got to
you, Ben, go ahead andcreate a social media account on to social
first. That would be fabulous.I would love it. True social.
People don't hear it from me,Yes they do. They do. Everybody
wants that case. Okay, you'rea brilliant man. Tell your friends about
this show because they will hear howbrilliant Sandy thinks. I am. Benjamin
(39:36):
is brilliant. I have a greatthat. By the names, in case
you're wondering, Sandy is my nickname, just so people know, my nickname
is Sandy. But otherwise you cancall me Nancy. I'm Nancy Shack.
I'm Ben Parker. This is newsbite.
Former President Trump loses a lawsuit anddoes a CNN town hall All in the
same week. Congress zeros and onPresident Biden, and the border opens wide.
These are some of the topics wehave for you this week with our
very best. Did they really justsay that? Moments I'm Nancy Shack,
Ben Parker, this is news byquet was named Vagina. The judge weren't
(00:33):
allowed to put that in, butwith her they can put in anything.
Access to jury of nine people whofound new liable of sexual abuse. Do
you think that that will deter womenfrom voting for you? Oh? I
don't think so. This committee isinvestigating President Biden and his family shady business
deals that capitalize on Joe Biden's publicoffice and risked our country's national security.
(00:58):
He does a puzzle pas Hey,back up, back up, I have
no idea what that was saying he'sgot a bad mouth. Well, that
was an illegal immigrant attacking a cameracrew in El Paso, Texas, just
two days before Title forty two waslifted. He kept insisting that he was
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an American too, because he hada card with a hearing date on it.
Because they gave him a card fora hearing date so that meant he
was an American. It wasn't green, by the way. It was just
a card, by the way.And of course I know, I know
what title forty two is, andI know what title nine is, and
you know there's all these different titles. But it's you would think, you
know, it'd be it would bereally convenient for most of us if when
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they changed laws or changed like inthis case, title forty two was going
away and they're reverting back to thedeal, they should just say, all
right, now we're on title fortythree and next will be on title forty
four, like upping your password andyou have to change your pass something like
that, as opposed to the nextnumber. Yeah, because they're going I
think, I think going back tolike title eight. Isn't that Yes,
But it happened before title forty two. So that's why it's I move forward,
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you know, I mean, wegot to look forward. You're just
lifting title forty two out. Titleeight was underneath there all the time,
and now it's well, it's likeit's like the Constitution, right, we
had the prohibition and then we repealedprohibition, and it was it was a
later number because we changed the deal. Whether we went backwards or forwards was
irrelevant. So like a title fortytwo, let's not go back to title
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forty Title forty two is a temporarymeasure understand the pandemic. So let's make
that now. Let's make the nextmeasure title forty three. We could we
could have made it title just keeptelling. But what you heard that was
a Mexican man whose confronts who confrontsthe press recording what's going on in al
packs pass though as it's being overrun, and he just basically said, bleep
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Americans, which shows you kind ofa sense of entitlement of people coming across
the border. That is cut fortyfour. Ave I got another ticket for
helping my people out, another thickhe bro I got two of them this
week's first one we're giving out water. For the third one, we're giving
up food to helping up my people. You guys, American Postle Postle PD.
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If the patrol, hey, backup, back up, hit me.
Now you're gonna say, you're gonnasee what happened. You start destroying
quimming out here, You come up, start yelling out a camera like a
fool, and you want to knowwhy people are squstioning my people, sir,
you own them, so you're you'rean owner. No, these are
my race. This is my bloodline. Read the mool and they're all
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my blood life. Guess what weare in American it's a free country.
If you don't like it, ifyou don't own an American soon you can
go. Okay, then understand theconstitation. It meant constitician. But he
was I'm an American too. He'sgot his card for a hearing in three
years. That's what are you're saying. So that's basically title forty two,
much to Ben's dismey um, andit's numbering. I was lifted last night
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at the time we're doing this podcast, and uh secretary of my orcis says,
whatever happens at the border in chaos, it's Congress's faults. It's not
the Biden administrations. Cut twelve bour current situation is the outcome of Congress
leaving a broken, outdated immigration systemin place for over two decades, despite
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unanimous agreement that we desperately need legislativereform. It is also the result of
Congress's decision not to provide us withthe resources we need and that we requested.
Our efforts within the constraints of ourbroken immigration system are focused on ensuring
that the process is safe, orderly, and humane, all while protecting our
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dedicated workforce and our communities. Now, the interesting thing to me about my
archist who spent over an hour talkingto the White House Press Corps as we
were waiting for Title forty two tobe lifted, was not only did he
spend his time blaming Congress for whateveris going to happen, and he also
spent a great deal of time suckingup to the border patrol, which was
very interesting to me because he's hada very fractious relationship with the border patrol.
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Did everybody remember when there was anissue of a mounted border patrol and
there were some Haitian refugees and theywere trying to steer the horses and they
were whipping the horses with the reins, and then a photograph from a bad
angle was taken and people thought theywere whipping Yeah, the people they worked,
And there was an investigation that provedthey didn't. They weren't touching anybody
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that had nothing to do with thepeople. But at the time of the
whipping, instead of waiting to seewhat happened. This was Secretary Majorchis.
This is back in twenty twenty one. That's cut sixteen B. I directed
that the Office of Professional Responsibility bepresent on site in del Rio twenty four
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to seven to ensure that the conductof our personnel adheres to our policy,
to our policies, to our training, and to our values. I was
horrified to see the images. Andwe look forward to learning the facts that
are reduced from the investigation, andwe will take actions that those facts compel.
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We do not tolerate any mistreatment orabuse of a migrant period. Okay,
so that was him and the Presidentjumped on that same bandwagon. That's
sixteen A. It was horrible whatto see you as you saw, to
see people treat it like they did. Courses very right, and over people
being strapped. It's outrageous. Ipromise you those people will pay. They
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will be an investigation underway now andthere will be consequences. There will be
consequences. It's an embarrassment, butit's beyond an embarrassment. It's dangerous.
It's wrong. It sends the wrongmessage around the world, or sends the
wrong message at home. It's simplynot who we are. Well, it's
simply not what happened. Well,that's just you know, it sends the
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wrong messages shooting off your mouth beforeyou know what happened. But you know
what, they've never apologized. Theymeeting the administration. This was Jen Saki
when Peter Doocey asked her if shewould apologized because they at this point in
time when he asked her the question, they had found out that no criminal
charges would be brought because the investigatorsshowed that it never happened. Sixteen f
We've been told that the Mounted BorderPatrol officers the President accused of whipping migrants
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have been notified they will not facecriminal charges. So when is the President
going to apologize to them? Thereis a process and an investigation that's gone
through the Department of Homeland Security.I don't have any update on that.
The President said that they were whippingpeople, which would be a criminal offense,
and they've been told they're not goingto be criminally and there was an
investigation into that, and I'll letthe Department of Homeland Security announce any conclusion
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of that investigation. You accused theseofficers of brutal and inappropriate measures. Now
that they've been told they will notbe criminally charged, will you apologize?
And Peter, there was an investigationinto their behavior, so that investigation is
playing out. Whenever it's going tobe announced, the Department of Homeland Security
will announce that and I'm sure we'llhave a comment on it after that.
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Yeah, but they didn't. Theynever apologize. So this is what happened
yesterday. So they put it outthere about the story about whipping. They
whipped it up so that people wereknown, pun intended, so that the
mainstream media, I mean Maxine Waterswas out there is likening it to slavery.
The mainstream media was on top ofit. They never apologized to the
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border patrol agents who were vilified bythem when the investigation completely cleared them,
and then this happened yesterday. Cutsixteen. The southern border is not just
Mexicans, it is Haitians. It'sAfricans every week, as we've seen,
particularly with that issue with the Haitiansbeing whipped with the reins or the courses.
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But what is there, Well,let me just correct you right there,
because actually the investigation concluded that thewhipping did not occur. I'm sorry,
I saw it differently. They werewiped with something from the horse,
ranged from a horse. I maybeeither the video or the picture was fixed,
but what I saw was totally different. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm
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gonna leave you as corrected. Theywere so the press don't even believe them
now when they tell the truth.When he's corrected, he well, remember
that was by the ways, AprilRyan from the Grio. Yeah, I'm
not sure. I mean, she'sjust seems like it seemed like and I'm
saying seemed like because I have noidea didn't do her follow up work on
the story because she Oh no,she did the follow up work. She
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just chose not to believe it.She later explained she she has thousands of
tweets and articles about this, allwhich happened after the investigation. She's a
member that she knew about the investigation. She doesn't care. As far as
she's concerned. The story that theyfirst put out there is the story that
she wants. So we're gonna goto the one we like best. That
how we do this now? AndI blame I blame Secretary my Orchis and
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President Biden who did not apologize andclear it up. You know a year
ago when they should have. Bythe way, I have over over history.
Um, there's there's a lot ofstories I'd like to change. So
you know, maybe maybe we canuh, you know, just run with
the uh moon landing was fake,and maybe we can run with who killed
Kennedy and we can run with awhole bunch of face. So I didn't
know. I didn't know that.Well, I didn't know that the media
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got to choose which what was trueand what wasn't true. I mean,
we know that that well, weknow that that happens, but it gets
your report on its facts. Butthey don't get to and I get you
what's real, And I get itat the time if if they chose to,
they could have run with a thesethese people were whipped. Look at
this picture. We can show youthat. But then you run the retraction
when you find out you were areal Hello, yeah, no, no,
you used to run retraction. Yes, it doesn't happen now, it's
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just like we'll just hope that fadesoff into the sunset. And by the
way, in the old days,right you had the newspaper or the TV
or the radio, and you hadthe report, and then that was the
end of it. See see insome people's worlds, because it's still on
Twitter, social media, it stillexists. It's still it's still real.
Yeah, because it's still Look,I went back and I saw this is
real. Well no, no,no, no, you've got to fast
forward to where they changed the storybecause that was wrong. This is right.
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No, no, no, I'mgonna go with the one I like
better. Okay, But this isone of the more interesting aspects, or
this is the thing that struck melistening to this exchange with April Ryan and
the Secretary Myorchis yesterday, because theydidn't Besides the fact that you have people
like April Ryan refusing to believe wouldactually happened, you also have a really
bad relationship now between the Secretary ofHomeland Security and the Border Patrol, who
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are really and in my opinion,justifiably pissed off of the fact that they
never apologized or really cleared it inthe press that these people did not do
what they were accused of doing bySecretary Myorchis and by the President. So
it's a really bad relationship. Sofor the first time yesterday, as the
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border is being overrun by migrants andthey need every Border Patrol agent they have.
Now he is correcting the story,and now he is also sucking up
to them the life so which I'venever seen cut fifteen c. Border patrol
facilities are overcrowded and some migrants haveto be released. Does that send the
very message you're trying to avoid,which is that people will be released into
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the interior. So I have tosay do things in response. Number One,
we cannot overstate the extraordinary talent andheroism of the United States Border Patrol
and the personnel of the Department ofHomeland Security that are managing through an extraordinary
challenge and doing so successfully. Numberone. Number two, it is very
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important to understand that the great majorityof people will be removed if they do
not qualify for relief under the lawsof the United States. You know,
it's just by the way. TheBorder Patrol is doing a great job.
Never mind what you heard when Ithrew them all under the bus and then
rolled over them with the bus.Yeah, never mind that we did a
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guilty Now that we need them stuckup, suck up, stuck up.
Only when we need that great people, well, I mean now help,
Oh my god. So, butthe border patrol. We're not the only
people that are like running off theirfeet this week, Congress. A lot
of people may be surprised to hearthis Congress has been really busy this week.
In particular, one committee, andthat's the Oversight Committee, led by
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Representive Comer, has been spending theirtime decoding Biden business deals, and they
had a press conference this week totell us what they had found. Cut
forty six. Since taken the gavelin January, the Committee on Oversight and
Accountability has accelerated its investigation of theBiden family's domestic and international business practices that
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we began last Congress. I wantto be clear, this committee is investigating
President Biden and his family's shady businessdeals that capitalize on Joe Biden's public office
and risked our country's national security.This committee has a duty to ask questions
and pursue the fact no matter wherethey take us. And apparently this swamp
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of Biden business dealings was a lotbigger than we thought. Cut forty six
A. We want to discuss informationthe Committee has learned since our last press
conference in November. New information investigatorsand have uncovered regarding the transfer of money
from foreign entities to the Biden family. Many of the wire payments occurred while
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Joe Biden was Vice president and leadingthe United States efforts in these countries,
and everybody thinks, oh, China, China, China. Well we found
out that it wasn't just China involvedCut forty seven. First instance, while
Vice President Biden was lecturing Romania onanti corruption policies, in reality, he
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was a walking billboard for his sonand family to collect money. Hunter Biden
and his associates capitalized on a lucrativefinancial relationship with the Romanian national who was
under investigation for and later convicted ofcorruption in Romania. The Bidens received over
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one million dollars for the deal,and sixteen of the seventeen payments to their
associate's account that funneled the Biden's moneyoccurred while Joe Biden was Vice president,
and there was more information to JimJordan, who's on the oversight committee,
he's the representative from Ohio, saidthat during the Obama administration. The Obama
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administration, there were one hundred andseventy suspicious activity reports regarding Biden family dealings.
That's cut sixty five suspicious activity reports. The key word in that phrase
is the word suspicious. There areone hundred and seventy of those reports,
many of them put together by theTreasury Department of our government in the Obama
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Biden Admit illustration, So one hundredand seventy of those that the committee has
reviewed. Thousands of pages of bankrecords the committee has reviewed, and that
has told us that there are nowmultiple, as mister Donalds just said,
multiple LLCs receiving money from foreign entitiesand paying that money out to multiple members
of the Biden family. And thefundamental question is the one Byron just raised
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for what what did they do?What was the business? What service did
they provide? What value did theyadd? What did they do to warrant
receipt of the money? That isthe fundamental question. And no one seems
to have an answer to that fundamentalquestion. Maybe they were doing landscaping or
something. Well, then there'd bea lands there'd be a raker or something,
but there isn't. They don't haveany They got nothing, They got
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no business other than the family names. Usually, if you get money,
you get it for something, right, you do something like somebody shovels your
driveway. I've always believed that apparentlyI've been wrong, Well silly, Apparently
you can do it for other things, for nothing or nothing. Yeah,
but they're just beginning. And nowthere's a standoff over a particular whistleblower document
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that both Senator Grassley and Congressman Commerare trying to get from the FBI,
and the FBI says, yes,we have it, Yes it's a public
document, but no, we're notgoing to give it to you. You
know me of course, And I'llplay devil's advocate for a second here.
And this, by the way,this problem was created by the government mostly
when there's like there's no, no, no, no, no, not
that problem. Let me finish mystatement. So they've got all this evidence,
(17:30):
they come out they say, we'vegot this evidence. It shows this,
this and this, now this.In this case it's Biden. You
know, because of the political natureof the country and where we are,
it doesn't matter if they come outwhatever they come out and say, half
the country is going to be like, yeah, that's bfs, that's you're
just doing it because you got andyou know, because what you're going to
hear and what you've already heard iswell they're doing this because the Democrats went
after Trump. And the problem is, I look, I didn't do the
(17:53):
investigation. I wasn't there when anylandscaping was paid for, whatever the case
may be. So I don't know. I mean, I know what I
hear, just like every other American. But we have a problem in this
country where it doesn't matter short offinding Joe Biden or Donald Trump or Fred
Finkelstein, it doesn't matter with agun in their hand smoking, No,
(18:14):
half the people are going to belike, nap, didn't do it,
na that this is this is theRepublicans going after Biden. And then you
know, if if some Republican getsinvestigated, most people will be like,
man, that's just the Democrats goingafter the Republicans. This is kind of
where we are in this country.Because I've already heard that. I mean,
I heard the press conference the otherday and and and responses from the
other side. This is just thisis just paid value. You know.
(18:36):
It's like the witch hunt is anice word that gets thrown around by everybody
nowadays. Which we had witch hunts. It was back in the sixteen hundreds,
and we haven't really done witch huntsanymore. We do a lot of
them, we just don't, youknow, they're just not with pointy hats
anymore. Yeah, that's no.They didn't even have had twenty hats in
the sixteen hundreds. Yeah they did. Really, that's where they come from.
(18:57):
Not the women, though. WhatI'm saying is that where they come
No. No, what I'm sayingis most of the women who got executed
in Salem or wherever they were pilgrims, well they weren't running around with you
know, the tradition. They didn'tlook like the wicked witch of the West,
just relatively normal people who got accusedof being witches. Anyway, we're
(19:17):
drifting. But yes, so everything'sa witch hunt. And that's the problem
I have and the reason I said, the government's kind of created this.
Look, we've got this divided countryon everything. You pick a topic and
tell me it's not divide to fiftyfifty unless it's maybe I don't know,
like after September eleventh, we allkind of came together for a common cause.
But mostly it's like, oh,you found evidence against Joe Biden for
(19:40):
doing something wrong, it's a witchhunt. Oh you found truth stuff about
Trump going to stuff, that's awitch hunt. So nobody believes. Half
the people don't believe most of thestuff. And that's the problem I have.
Okay, I mean, you cantell me if I'm wrong, but
I just I mean, that's reallywhere we're at. Know, I've gotten
I'm tired of the topic. Yeah, so yeah, off down with the
witch hunts. Yeah. Actually,the biggest show this week a lot of
(20:03):
people are also tired of, whichwas Trump versus CNN. It was build
as a town hall but ended upbeing somewhat of a debate between former President
Trump and the host, Caitlin Collins. She I understand and you may disagree
(20:23):
with me, Ben, I don'tknow, But as if you were hosting
a town hall, you asked thequestion you think that they the guest has
made a misleading answer. You say, well, you know, I disagree
with you because I have data thatshows this or this, and then you
stop right and then but she didn't. She kept pushing back and pushing back
and pushing back. So the peoplethought this was a freaking debate. Cut
(20:45):
seventeen. Some of your Republican rivalshave criticized you for not fulfilling the promises
that you made on the campaign trail, like finishing the border wall. So
how did voters know that you wouldget those done if you're re elected.
I did finish the wall. Ibuilt a wall. I built hundreds of
miles of wall, and I finishedit. And then I said, we
have to build some more because thereare areas, like water going through a
(21:06):
damn there are some areas where alot of people are coming. You close
up one and they come into another. And we started another hundred miles of
wall. In fact, I saidto my people, if we start this
and don't finish it, and thenwe had a rigged election, I'm sorry
to say it, and so youcan. Then they took over and they
(21:26):
decided not to finish it. Ordertaken them three weeks. I built hundreds
of miles of wall. I don'tknow about you, Benjamin. I don't
know whether if you agree or notwhether the election was rigged. I find
it really obnoxious that the host istelling the guests what they can and can't
say. You can't keep saying that, yeah, he can, you can
say whatever. You don't have toagree with him, you don't have to
(21:47):
support him, but he can.Yeah, here's part of the issue.
And there are debates and there aretown halls, and there are interview I
mean, there's all kinds of waysyou can present, uh, talking to
someone. Right, you have fivecandidates on that's a debate, right,
they debate each other. The debateshould not ever be between the journalist,
reporter, whoever and one candidate.By the way, I feel the same
(22:10):
way if that was Joe Biden sittingthere. You're interviewing even if former president
how many million? Yeah, andyou know you might throw out a once
in a while like well, youknow, I just read this morning in
the Times, or people have saidthis this, but you you're not debating
them. You nobody gives a crapwhat you think. You're just asking questions
(22:30):
so that people can you know,the old adage, right, we report,
you decide. That's kind of thedeal. You talk to the candidate.
You let people get the information.Sure, if something egregious, if
they say this guy is green,you got to interject. However, that's
just not the place here. Anotherthing, I'm not sure I know why
he did it, obviously, butI mean, listen, Donald Trump is
(22:52):
going into a CNN debate or aCNN town hall. It wasn't going to
be friendly. Five I mean,there was obviously, and he obviously didn't
expect to fire, right, Butyou know, I think he the reason
why I did it was to reachan audience that he doesn't normally reach,
and I understand that. But shejust, in my opinion, he looked
better than she did. Whether youthink he's crazy or not isn't the issue.
(23:15):
I think the fact that she wasso argumentative over and over again made
her look bad and out of control. It happened again. They were talking
about a Georgia call cut seventeen C. And if this call was bad,
why didn't him and his lawyers hangup? How dare you say that this
was a p They were fairly concernedenough they recorded the call. And I
(23:36):
should note that this was a callthat was made to question the results of
election, and we have and whenwe can't make a call to question election
results, then this country would tojust forget about it. You weren't just
questioning the election, as I alwaysfind you votes And I should note that
there is no evidence of fraud.There is no rigged election in the state
(23:57):
of Georgia. There is no Imean, she was like a broken record
over and over again. I know, But by the way, and you
asked me what I think about therigged election, So let me just throw
this out in more general terms.But um, there's and this is not
the way Trump and a lot ofhis followers have been pushing it right.
They're saying that they stuffed ballot boxesor didn't count ballots or whatever. There
(24:18):
is. I think the I thinkthe issue that could be made, and
maybe this is the one they shouldmake the whole they throw away ballots or
they put new ones in that one, that one's kind of da But the
election still could have been quote unquoterigged because as everyone knows, a vast
majority of the media not all,not all, not all, but wanted
(24:41):
Biden to win, wanted Trump tolose, and rigged how they reported on
the election. That I think isa bigger, more important statement. That's
very interesting because you can say theelection was rigged, but not mean it
was rigged like they threw away ballotsand craft, but because most of the
media stuff coming out was rigged sopeople would like Biden more than Trump.
(25:03):
I think that's a really good point. I think that's a very very right
thinking. Sometimes on the toilet andstuff whatever, TMI. Yeah, but
thank you. Thank you for that. There was a Trump did have a
very interesting gotcha moment when Caitlyn Collinswas talking, was asking him the question,
why didn't you tell people to gohome earlier? Why didn't you respond
(25:25):
to the January sixth earlier? Andhe reached into his breast pocket and I
have to explain to you before youhear the cut and pulled out a transcript
of his Twitter feed that day whichshowed at that day and the day before,
both January sixth and January sixth,to show that he did tell people
to go home while it was happening. But Twitter took it down. But
(25:48):
it was a very interesting moment.Cut eighteen A. You did tell your
supporters to come to Washington. Youtweeted about it, about the speech to
happen on the rally when they whenthey went to the Capitol and they were
aking into the Capitol, smashing windowsand drink police officers. Why why did
it take me three hours to tellthem to go home? I don't believe
it did. Let me pull itout. I have to pull it out.
(26:14):
So so if you look at onJanuary fifth, the day before,
I said, police support our capitolpolice and law enforcement. They are truly
on the side of our country.Stay peaceful, Stay peaceful. This was
the day before, and this wasin the form of Twitter. Now use
truth, truth social I think it'sfar superior. Okay, I hope everybody's
(26:37):
are I hope everybody's our truth.So he pulled it out and then he
explained it a little bit more ineighteen B. If you look januarys exists
at two before two thirty. Iam asking for everyone at the US Capitol
to remain peaceful. This is rightafter as it was happening. But what
happened is they took it down down. I don't know why. I think
(27:00):
they took it down because it wasso good. They didn't like it being
up there. I am asking thisis and we didn't know until I got
it back because now I have ninetymillion people waiting for me to go back.
But I'm on truth that I'm stayingon truth. Listen, I am
asking for everyone at the US Capitalroom made peaceful, no violation, that
we want no violation. We wantno violence. Remember we are the party
(27:23):
of law and order. Respect thelaw, and our great men and women
in blue. Thank you. Thatwas a two thirty that was very early,
mister President. I looked at thesame timeline that you did. You
did you know why because it waswe did report it when it was Yeah,
it was taken down. So she'sshe's fibby. She fipped a couple
of times there up to me thebiggest moment, not the biggest moment,
(27:48):
but one of the funnier moments.One of those moments when I did I
just hear that? You know?One of those did he just really say
that? Was he was talking aboutE. J. Carroll, the woman
who just won her civil suit forI against him for sexual abuse at thirty
years ago, and he basically wastalking about how the judge was unfair and
(28:10):
allowed all sorts of extraneous evidence inagainst him but not against her. And
he had a very particular example ofthat, which you heard in the open
eighteen c Her dog or her catwas named Vagina. The judge weren't allowed
to put that in all of thesethings, but with her they could put
in anything. Access called jury ofnine people who found you liable of sexual
(28:34):
abuse. Do you think that thatwill deter women from voting for you?
Oh? I don't think so,because I think the whole thing just so
you understand, ready, I nevermet this woman. I never saw this
woman. This woman said, Imet her at the front door of bergdof
Goodman, which yeah, he sworein his children and everything. But first
(28:56):
of all, I don't know aboutyour reaction, Ben. My first reaction
was who has a cat named Vagina? And secondly, did I just hear
a former president then I says,used the word vagina during a town hall.
I mean there were two interesting respectfacts, your facts. I mean,
if that was the cat's name,then then then so be it.
There you got to say that ran, that's the deal. So what's your
dog's name? Penis? I mean, that's just maybe it's just bizarre.
Yeah, but this is you cannever tell what you're gonna get with.
(29:17):
By the way, wouldn't wouldn't you? And I know that block the kids
ears just in case because I alwayslike to be careful. Even though this
is a podcast, we can sayit. Um, wouldn't pussy have been
a better name for the cat?I agree? I'm just saying I agree.
So what do you do when yougo to the vet? This is
my cat, Vagina? Did yougive it a nickname? No? What's
better is when you call up tomake the appointment. You say, yes,
I'd like to come in and havesomeone take a look at my bringing
(29:37):
vagina. I want someone to lookat my vagina. Vagina. Wait a
second, you've got the wrong doctor. The guyacologist is down the street.
This is the veterinarian. What's thenickname ginny? I mean, what is
the what you call the cat BJG. Oh my god, that's that's right.
Would be good. So CNN wasfit to be tied over what they
had. But they're the ones whodid it. They're the ones who arranged,
(30:00):
agreed to it. Put kay.They're the ones who did it.
And they were horrified. This wasAnderson Cooper's response to what he just saw.
Cut three B. The man youwere so disturbed to see and hear
from last night. That man isthe frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president
and accord in polling, no otherRepublican is even close. That man you
(30:21):
were so upset to hear from lastnight. He may be president of the
United States in less than two years. And that audience that upset you,
that's a sampling of about half thecountry. They are your family members,
your neighbors, and they are voting, and many said they're voting for him.
Now, maybe you haven't been payingattention to him since he left office.
Maybe you've been enjoying not hearing fromhim, thinking it can't happen again,
(30:45):
some investigation is going to stop him. Well it hasn't so far.
So if last night showed anything,it showed it can happen again. It
is happening again. He hasn't changed, and he is running hard. You
have every right to be outraged todayand angry and never watched this network again.
But do you think staying in yoursilo and only listening to people you
(31:07):
agree with is going to make thatperson go away? You have every right
not to watch this and TV.Well noways watching them anyway, So what's
the difference, by the way,all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna do
a little conspiracy theory moment here fora second because my initial thought, and
you know, we all have initialthoughts when we hear things that Donald Trump
was going to do us basically asit down this town hall on CNN.
(31:29):
Yeah, I like many people withaudience members, well, right, I
like many people when what because Imean, look Trump and Trump CNN,
Right, So My first thought,Yeah, look, we know that the
hardcore left isn't voting for Trump.Some of the hardcore right might not either,
depending on whether DeSantis is in orsome other people. So here's my
conspiracy theory. CNN doesn't want ToaldTrump to be the next president. They
(31:52):
didn't want to be the last president. But they don't want him, So
we put Trump on, We tryto give him enough of an audience so
he wins the Republican primary, andthen America is not going to vote for
him because they didn't last time.It's almost like they're trying to make sure
Trump gets there because they think thatif he does, then the Democrats will
(32:14):
hold the White House. I don'tknow if there's truth and that, Like,
I don't Maybe they're scared that ifit's de Santis, he will beat
Biden, or if it's somebody elseon that ticket, they will beat Biden.
And maybe they feel the only waythat they can not have Biden lose
reelection is to get Trump back inthere, because Biden has already beaten Trump,
ergo he could do it again.I kind of felt like that was
(32:35):
CNN's m that we're going to helpBiden indirectly by helping Trump with his core
his base, the Republicans. Becausethe first thing that the turn pass to
do is win the Republican primary.It's irrelevant if he loses. So if
he wins the Republican nomination, wealready think Biden can beat him because he
(32:57):
did it before. So that wasmy initial. I don't think that that's
far fetched. I don't think thatyou're you're out there. I don't.
But I think that there was amore immediate reason why they did this and
that and I understand why Trump woulddo it. Well, maybe that could
be. I think that Trump didit to reach people who aren't his core
audience because he's already got his coreaudience, so he was reaching for other
people. I think CNN did itbecause they're thinking of Caitlyn Collins for Don
(33:22):
Lemon's old slot at nine o'clock,and this was going to be her her
step up into that. But Ithink it backfired. I don't know.
I don't know Caitlin Collins from ahole in the wall, and and I
know snark she well, I mean, and people do you know when they're
because she's not a household name.Um, so people went yes, that's
why I think they were doing well. Yeah, but so people people when
they start in their career, like, she may end up being a really
whiz bang freaking CNN anchor someday.I don't know, but but but my
(33:45):
initial thought on that was, also, don't you have one of your stars
interview the former president? I suspectthe stars aka yes, exactly understand Cooper
will Flitts are like, yeah,no, thanks. Trying to cut back,
they had they had a staff meetingand went show a hands, who
wants the interview Donald Trump? AndCaitlin was the only one who put her
hand up, and they went,you got it. No, yeah,
(34:06):
they saw what happened to Chris Wallace. They wantn't Maybe that was but a
CNN you would think we got alot of players here. I put a
big player. I suspect they wantedto, and the big players are like,
yeah, no, you know,I'm going to give that a pass.
Caitlin, you want to give ita shot. And Caitlin, if
you do it, maybe maybe we'llput you in at nine. Yeah.
I think I think that's what happened. I mean, I have no idea
(34:29):
speculating on a lot of stuff.By the way, it might be far
fetched and out of this world,but sometimes we're right. But sometimes sometime,
sometimes the craziest things end up beingthe things that are correct. Nobody's
more surprised than us. So usuallywe like to end the week with a
Bidenism. So I've a lovely onefor this week. Um. The President
was at a born was at ascreening at the White House of a movie
(34:51):
called American Born Chinese. Um,and he's hailing American born Chinese people like
Vera Wang and Joan Shigakawa, whoas a director, but he cannot pronounce
shiga Kaw his name to save hislife. Cut eleven, I honored a
group of trail raiding artists with NationalMedals of Arts and Humanities. The group
(35:13):
included groundbreaking Asian Americans like Very Wangand and Joan Shang Shanga Koowa, I
think I pronounced it correctly. Shecan call me Joe bidden. Yeah.
Oh my gosh. You put apronouncer up in front of him, and
(35:35):
you shouldn't have any problem. Youdon't, just just some people who don't.
I mean, we we work withpronouncers all the time. Politicians work
with pronouncers all the time. Thatmeans, in your teleprompter, in your
script, next to any name that'seven remotely difficult to pronounce, is phonetically
spelled the name, so that allyou have to do is read the phonetics.
So you would, you know,in this particular case with shiga Kawa,
(35:57):
you would move like shig s higyou know, uh, with a
letter uh cow coow h Chigakawa.That's all you gotta do, and all
you to just read that pronouncer.You don't have to read the other name
even and I'm I guarantee you therewas a pronouncer in his in him sometimes
I transcribe, I know, readingreading phonetic spellings of things, it is
(36:19):
sometimes harder than reading that because youknow, you gotta be like, okay,
well, you know, I justfind that difficult. Here's what I
do in the news. Uh.And a lot of times, you know,
if it's if it's some random personwho we don't know, like somebody
who get arrested. We arrested twelvepeople, we don't even mention names,
right, But but in this case, sure Sigakawa, right, yeah,
okay, So so if I hadthat name in my news and I didn't
(36:39):
know how to say it. Iwould see the pronunciation. I would say
it so many times to myself.Second nature two right. So when you
get out there, you go hey, and I want to thank blah blah
blah saw yeah and not shoe ever, And I feel bad. I always
feel bad for people who can't pronouncethings, because we've all in radio had
(37:00):
a brain fart. But he caneither at right point, but you couldn't
you know what, five minutes surprisehe got vera wang out. Five minutes
before you go on stage, justsit down in your chair in the oval
office and go sugar, sugar,sugar, sugar, sugar, especially when
you're gonna be in front of aroom full of Asian America. Yeah,
yeah, which is by the way. And and just if I go to
(37:22):
a restaurant and it could be anAsian restaurant, it could be Greek,
it could be Italian, it couldbe anything. If if I don't if
I don't know how to pronounce themeal, because sometimes you see a thing
and you go, well, thatsounds good. Points number seven number seven
plays. Maybe he should have hada program for his that's maybe here's the
idea. Whenever he has people thathe has to introduce. He has like
either a board up on the onthe like where everybody can see it above
(37:44):
his head, or he hands outlike a fiery all right, so listen
number four, Hell of a job. Number two. We're really proud of
you. Thanks for all your numberseven. Yeah, so maybe you should
just like like a men, youwent a restaurant that has numbers on it,
instead of saying the actual well,were just just say the number number
one, Good job, thank you, carry on. I think that's brilliant.
(38:05):
Okay, um. I want peopleto think about a question just because
I'm really interested in the answer thatwe get back over the next week,
and that is do you think theCNN town hall helped or hurt President Biden?
Or or or did it help orhurt CNN? I want to know
who you think was helped or hurtby any of them that that cluster bleep
that was on the air. I'mjust really intrigued to people's perceptions. So
(38:27):
let us know. You can contactBen and I on Twitter. We're at
newsbite three any wsby t E three. We're also on Facebook um at news
bite um there as well. Youcan also go to sandyshack dot com by
the way, let's go to that. But I don't mean to interrupt you,
but I wanted to get this out. Um. The former president on
CNN just we played the con um. He encouraged us to get on truth
(38:52):
socials. Have we got a placethere? We don't. But I leave
if you want to open. Ithink I'm just asking. I mean,
I don't look. Look, Itend to want to send people to a
few places as possible because I don'twant to dilute things. But did I
find us when it comes to socialmedia? I think that's a good idea
when it comes to social media,or I know there's a ton of it,
and I know some of that leansleft, some leans right. Something.
It's a neutral blah blah blah.I don't think like being on a
certain website or a certain social mediais a bad thing if you're reaching people
(39:15):
I agree with. Like people wouldsay, oh, you'll run true social
so you're a Trump we want tobe where, Well, we've got to
you, Ben, go ahead andcreate a social media account on to social
first. That would be fabulous.I would love it. True social.
People don't hear it from me,Yes they do. They do. Everybody
wants that case. Okay, you'rea brilliant man. Tell your friends about
this show because they will hear howbrilliant Sandy thinks. I am. Benjamin
(39:36):
is brilliant. I have a greatthat. By the names, in case
you're wondering, Sandy is my nickname, just so people know, my nickname
is Sandy. But otherwise you cancall me Nancy. I'm Nancy Shack.
I'm Ben Parker. This is newsbite.
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