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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Both horror and cheers as Charlie Kirk sheds his mortal coil.
Democrats are put in their place by the FBI director,
and a Fox News host steps in it big time.
America is at a pivot, as you'll see in our
did they really just say that? Clips from this week.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Nancy Shack, I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This is news bite.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
When I got home last night, Gigi, our daughter just
ran into our high arms.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
She goes, we're daddy.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
She's three. I said, baby, Daddy loves you so much.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Don't you worry. He's a He's on a work trip
with Jesus.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Don't start with him.
Speaker 7 (00:47):
Don't let him be the dog.
Speaker 8 (00:48):
Get rid of them all.
Speaker 9 (00:50):
And we have talentlessly proven you to be a lawyer
in Russia Gate in January. You are the biggest broad
to ever since the United States Senate. Yeah, disgrace and
an utter calend that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You've got to be locked up in jail. That's the
way it has.
Speaker 10 (01:05):
To be now, or involuntary lethal injection or something.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just kill him, all right. You know, if Earth
was a bus, I'd get off at the deck stop.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That was Fox's New Fox News is Brian Killmead who
doesn't normally misspeak. He doesn't he's usually a very thoughtful guy,
and he said a very very bad thing in a
conversation he was they were talking, he was with Stephen A.
Smith and they were talking about that poor Ukrainian girl
who was murdered on the train in North Carolina coming
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home from the pizza parlor and Brian and so Brian
kill me. They're talking about, you know, the problems with
the criminally insane that are on the streets and are
causing problems. And this is what crept Up twenty.
Speaker 11 (01:59):
One feel so compassionate because you see the mental health
crisis happen exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But it's not our job.
Speaker 11 (02:05):
We shouldn't have to live in fear while they figure
out what's going on right there. Put them in a
mental institution, put them in a jail, and you got.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
To figure it out.
Speaker 11 (02:15):
But people having to duck and dive on the trains
and the buses walking through the street. This is one case,
but this is happening all across the country, and it's.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Not a money issue.
Speaker 11 (02:27):
They have given billions of dollars to mental health and
the homeless population. A lot of them don't want to
take the programs. A lot of them don't want to
get the help that is necessary. You can't give them
a choice. Either you take the resources that we're going
to give you and or you decide that you got.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
To be locked up in jail. That's the way it
has to be.
Speaker 10 (02:46):
Now, or involuntary lethal injection or something.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Just kill them.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
First of all, I mad misake. That's Lawrence Jones is
talking to, you know, Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Smith.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
But it was like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
If you're thinking that, it just can't come out of
your mouth. I mean, yeah, you have to be.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
What the hell I mean? Oh my god, Oh my god,
I mean, And that is a huge misstep. And to
be honest with you, that could have been a career
ender for him. But he took the very first opportunity
to apologize cut twenty two.
Speaker 10 (03:18):
Yeah, and it actually happened when we were together on Wednesday, Lawrence,
in the morning. We were discussing the murder of Arena
Saruska and show.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In North Carolina.
Speaker 10 (03:26):
Now, to stop these kinds of attacks by homeless mentally
ill assailants, including institutionalizing or jailing such people so they
cannot attack again. Now during that discussion, I wrongly said
they should get lethal injections. I apologize for that extremely
callous remark. I'm obviously aware that not old, mentally ill
homeless people act as the perpetrator did in North Carolina,
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and that so many homeless people deserve our empathy and compassion.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Just handing out injections. Clinic.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, you know he is, you know he is. To
be honest with you, there was bigger news this week.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So my guess is that's what kind of saved his
career because I can't I cannot imagine that there are
many people who could have survived that kind of horrible,
horrible misstatement.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, and I mean he obviously didn't mean to say it.
I mean he might have thought it, because obviously if
he thought it, it came out of his mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But I think it's trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, and he really it was really appalling thing that
he said.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, that's something that maybe if you were sitting
around on a couch with someone having a beer who
had the same I don't know political leanings as you
and you made that joke, it would have come off
as a joke like a yeah, but yeah, you just
can't say it there and without going down the rabbit hole,
which is obviously something.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You're going to go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, I'm gonna just I'm gonna dip my toe in it. Okay,
first of all, and obviously we know that there's mentally
ill people. We know that people have you know, a
history of problems with their mental health, and and they
should get help, right of co. But here's the thing.
What happens nowadays is regardless, Like, I'm no doctor, so
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I'm not gonna say that guy's mentally ill. That guy's not.
But you know, everybody who commits a crime is now crazy, right,
everybody is, well, he's got mental health issues. Not everybody
who is a jerk is mentally ill. They're just a jerk. Now,
you could make the argument that if you're committing crimes,
you've got something wrong with your brain. Okay, fair enough.
But so but if that's the case, right, if everybody
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who's committing crimes is mentally unstable, then we gotta maybe
we this by the way, this is kind of a joke,
so be careful, don't write letters. But maybe we don't
lock them up. Let's lock ourselves up. Let's put all
the not crazy people in a safe house and and
everything will be better, because it seems like we're locking
up way more people now, or at least I shouldn't
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say locking up, but we're identifying more and more people,
and maybe that's a good thing, that we're identifying more
and more mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
What you're describing is like a scene from The Walking
Dead where the same people are like holed up in
various places and everybody else is you know, a flusheating zombie.
So I'm hoping that's not what happens, because it doesn't know,
very appealing to me when I see it on AMC.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But okay, but doesn't it But.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Doesn't does it not seem that we are at a
point where everyone who commits a crime, even hell, even
shoplifting right is mentally Look, there's a lot of people
who have mental health issues, and there are people who
have mental health issues at one end of the scale.
You know, it is a spectrum kind of you're you're
depressed or this or that, and then you're full blown, uh,
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psychologically damaged. So there's there's obviously a long list of people.
But if everybody's crazy, maybe if you don't think you
are did you just lock yourself up put you in
the closet?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
To me, what Brian kilmeat said was indicative of the
atmosphere that we now find ourselves and you you actually
kind of kind of alluded to it at the beginning
of the of the podcast regarding you know, get off
the bus because it is crazy. People are saying crazy
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things that they would never have said five years ago
or ten years ago, and because it is such a
heightened hostile atmosphere. And I blame part of that for
Brian Kilmead saying what he did, because that is not
usual for him to do something like that. So I
think he is a victim of the atmosphere we find
ourselves in. And you see this hostility for people, for
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anybody who is either perceived to be threatening or perceived
to be on the other side, or just doesn't agree
with you. And this really spilled over into would you
believe the Senate hearing this past week up on the Hill.
You had the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, who
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was in front of the Senate and he was it
maybe even been a joint committee, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He's talking about, first of all, the investigation into the
horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk, but also regarding other things
that the FBI was doing. And the senators, the Democrat
senators who have found themselves on the losing side of
almost every single issue in the last few weeks because
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they've taken such bizarre positions just to put themselves opposite
Donald Trump, that most of America's gone, what the hell
is wrong with you? And in their panic over bleeding
voters and bleeding public public approval, they've gone crazy and
they just attack anybody from who's either pro Trump or
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from the cabinet or even sounds remotely like the approve
of something that the President did. And this was what
happened up on Capitol Hill. This is Director Patel getting
into a heated argument with a piece of cheft senators.
Who's now the minor senator from uh or the junior
senator from California.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He's a kid.
Speaker 12 (09:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He took over for Diane Feinstein who had lost her
marbles and then passed away.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
God bless her.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But so this is Senator Adam Schiff with cash ptel
cut twelve B.
Speaker 13 (09:18):
Not the American people to believe that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Do you think they're stupid.
Speaker 14 (09:23):
No, I think the American people believe the truth that
I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
Its what I am doing is protecting this country, providing
historic force, and combatting the weaponization of intelligence by the
likes of you, And we have talentlessly proven you to
be a lawyer in Russia Gate in January sixth. You
are the biggest raw to ever sing the United States Senate.
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Disgrace to this and an utter cal.
Speaker 13 (09:52):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
I'm not surprised you continue to lie from your perch
and put on a show you can go raise money
for your charoo You are political buffoon at best. Well,
you can take the FBI is protecting this country, the
state and citicide California.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay, that's a public hearing between a US sitting senator
from California and the director of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And it wasn't over.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We also got Senator Corey Booker from New Jersey entering
the meltdown zone cut thirteen B.
Speaker 14 (10:29):
That rant of false information does not bring this country together.
If you want to work on bringing this country, it's
my time, not yours.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
My god, my god. If you want to talk about
this country. It is follow you on your social media post?
Is my time to you try in this country?
Speaker 15 (10:55):
Time?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Your time over? This committee, sir, you don't tell me
my time is over. Tell me what time. You can't
lecture me, you can tell mister chairman, not afraid of you.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'm not afraid of you.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I mean and and here comes Dick. This was actually
a moment of levity. Here comes Senator Dick Durbin, who
generally speaking is the nut in the group because he's
very progressive and he's from Chicago, where they approve of nuts.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But in this particular case, he actually while.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
While was the antagonistic tourd Ptel did not sound crazy,
but Patel had the best rejoinder to him Cut fourteen A.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Nothing came of that review until July when do OJ
and FBI released an unsigned memorandum stating there is no
incriminating client list. Why was this July seventh memorandum unsigned?
Speaker 14 (11:52):
Would you prefer I've used auto pen memorandum had the
insignia of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau
of Investigation, And in our effort to secure transparency for
the American people, because the three prior administrations had not done.
So we conducted an exhaustive search of everything related to
the Epstein cases, and we produced what was legally and
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permissively able to be produce to Congress of the American public.
And there's a commerson and we're continuing to do so.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I love that. Why should I use the autopen for that?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yes, exactly, calling back the old jokes. It is perfect
like a comedian when they you know, they returned to
something they said earlier in the show.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yes, I love the autopen.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But things really reached a boiling point this week with
or The big moment that has really I think changed
politics probably forever in the United States was the assassination
of Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk, who was shot and
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killed when you know, holding an event for students at
the Utah State University and it was.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
By the way, it's it's like Utah Valley or something.
But I got to be honest with you, I never
heard of that place until okay, last week.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I don't think really that matters accepted that it was
in Utah, and directly after the shooting, within a few
hours of the shooting, there was a presser with Utah
Governor Spencer Cox and FBI Director Cash Battel on the
sheriff and he basically gave a timeline Cash Batel did
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of what happened cut twenty nine.
Speaker 14 (13:30):
Charlie was shot at twelve twenty three pm on Wednesday.
The first FBI agents Aren't arrived on scene in sixteen
minutes with chiefs of police at twelve thirty nine and
secured the scene. The FBI immediately launched fixed wing assets.
We utilized these assets to transport personnel, specialty technicians, hasa's
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rescue teams. We also utilized these assets to go back
and forth from the East Coast and here in Utah
to transport forensic evidence and other evidence that will be
analyzed and is being analyzed at our FBI laboratories in
Quantico and other laboratories including the ATF. At my direction,
the FBI released the first set of FBI photos of
the suspect at ten am local time on nine to eleven,
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Then shortly thereafter, the FBI reward of one hundred thousand
dollars was released at ten forty five am Local myself
and Deputy Director Bond Gino arrived on the scene at
approximately five thirty PM on nine to eleven. The governor
led a press conference last night at approximately eight pm, where,
at my direction, the FBI released a never before seen
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video of the suspect. We also released new images to
the public of the suspect.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And just last night.
Speaker 14 (14:47):
The suspect was taken into custody at ten pm local time.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, why are you taking in because his parents
tournament his parents recognized his video.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
God bless them.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, you know, a friend of mine had said to me, well,
isn't that a of I mean, I don't know what
I would do. I'm like, well, here's I think what
the thought process was. I can either not turn them
in and have a dead son, or I can have
a living son who's in jail, because that was not
going to end well if there was a standoff with
the FBI and they were looking for him and they
were closing.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
In on them.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So I think the parents did the right thing to
save the life of their son.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I think is what the thinking was there.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But that must have been a really hard, a very
very difficult press conference for Cash Patel to do because
he happened to have been a friend of Charlie Kirk.
They were buddies, and he made a kind of a
reference to that during the at the end of that
press conference.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Cut thirty four.
Speaker 14 (15:40):
Lastly to my friend Charlie Kirk rest now, brother, we
have the watch and I'll see you in Valhalla.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean, it just brings tears. But the most moving
tribute moments came from his.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Widow, Erica Kirk.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
The body was brought back to area owner from Utah
by the Vice President of the United States, who was
another friend of Charlie Kirk's, and his wife and Erica Kirk,
Charlie Kirk's widow, spoke so eloquently from his from the
studio in his house where he had done his radio show,
regarding you heard it in the open, talking to her
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explaining to her daughter, her three year old child, she
also has like a sixteen month old son with Charlie Kirk.
Why she's who will never have any memories of his
father whatsoever? To her three year old child. Cut four.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
When I got home last night, gig our daughter just
ran into my arms and I talked to her and
she said, Mommy, I missed you. I said, I missed you, you baby.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
She goes, where's daddy?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
What do you tell a three year old, she's three,
I said, baby, Daddy loves you so much, don't you worry.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
He's on a work trip with.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Jesus so he can afford your blueberry budget.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And my goodness, am I so humbled to witness Charlie
you alongside Jesus right now doing what you always want
to do, baby.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Making heaven crowded, right.
Speaker 12 (17:28):
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So you have that, this incredible woman who is now
a widow with two little children, and the outpouring of
love for Charlie Kirk opposite.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
People progressive left celebrating celebrating the murder of a husband
and father. This is, for instance, this is a TikTok
user by the name of Estoy Docuzzi who posts a
video calling for more murder after the assassinate cut seventeen.
Speaker 16 (18:01):
So i'n't seeing like post about this Charlie dude, what
a Kirk dude, whatever, regardless, And let me just say this,
I'm surprised that y'all didn't get rid of him sooner,
and I'm surprised that you guys aren't getting rid of
more people like, don't stop with him, don't let him
be the dog.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Get rid of them.
Speaker 16 (18:21):
All and the ones that are above him. You're mayor,
you're city councilman. What's it, Georgia power, the people that
keep on raising our shit, the CEO, get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, of course she has no idea what she's talking about,
for she has none whatsoever. She didn't even know who
Charlie Kirk is.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm pretty sure she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But what he stands for anything, well, knowing that she's
no appreciation for basically murder, murdering a guy with two
little kids. And then here's a woman, a student at
Texas Tech, taunting Charlie Kirk supporters cut fifteen as.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You're so, you're so, you're so brave, You're so brave.
Speaker 17 (19:09):
She started saying, ha ha, you're Homie dead.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And she was arrested, by the way, And it's not
just these bizarro TikTokers and social media posters. This is
Sean Kelly, a FEMA section chief in an undercover video,
was asked about Charlie Kirk assassination.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Cut fifteen.
Speaker 18 (19:30):
Have you spoken to anybody about the great Charlie Kirk assassination?
Speaker 19 (19:33):
It's also like it's tough not to laugh at this stuff,
you know what I mean. Like he's tic and like
awful and kind of deserves it in his own way.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh my god, he kind of deserved being killed. And
here we have and it's just to show you how
insidious this is. Here are some Office Depot employees refusing
to print posters for a vigil in Michigan because because
they called it propaganda cut fourteen we.
Speaker 15 (20:04):
Came in for an order earlier, or the print poster
for our vigil tonight or somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That it's not.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
Sorry, we don't quit that year, all right, So what's
your name?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Print supervised? I'm one of the managers.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yes, so unsorted.
Speaker 15 (20:25):
So they say they don't print political propaganda.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So this is somebody that passed away a.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Couple of years.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Political propaganda, unfortunately.
Speaker 16 (20:32):
So this is for a prayer tonight, for a prayer vigil,
it's still propaganda.
Speaker 15 (20:36):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 20 (20:37):
What makes a propaganda because his.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Political figure and I don't have to it's yet.
Speaker 16 (20:44):
Our general manager is going to be in on Monday.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
If you set.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Propaganda is what we say is propaganda.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, And by the way, they were fired Home Depot
when they hurt saw this Office Depot said screw that
and fired them. They should have been fired. I completely
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
By the way, I gotta say this, and I don't
care what side of the aisle you're on. I usually
preface that a lot. But here's the thing, right, I
get it, you don't want to have what swastikas and
Hitler signs being printed out by the Office Depot folk,
But most things, whether look, if you don't agree with
somebody politically on the left or politically on the right,
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you know, like a lot of people don't agree with
the whole Black Lives Matter thing, right, But I don't
think Office Depot shouldn't print Black Lives Matter signs. If
you want them, come in, we'll print them for you.
And if you want to have a memorial for Charlie
Kirk or Fred Smith or Bob Jones, then come on in.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And well, here's the thing. They would have been happy
to print black Lives Matter signs.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Well, which is of course, they just didn't like Charlie
Kirk because he was a conservative, right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So anybody, and stop being such a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Jackasses, no kidding, Well, they were fired, so they don't
have to print for anybody anyway. But Erica Kirk had
a message for these types of people.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Cut six. Please.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
The evildoers.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they
have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message
of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. They should
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all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission
was powerful.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Before, you have no idea.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
You have no idea what you just have unleashed across
this entire country, in this world. You have no idea.
You have no idea the fire that you have ignited
within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo
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around the world like a battle cry.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I believe her.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I believe her that they miscalculated if they thought that
that was going to frighten anybody instead of empower people.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The funny thing is, and when I say funny, I
mean more strange than haha. But and she says it,
and we do hear it, and I'm gonna explain, but
so don't jump right in. But so she says, you
people like multiple people when there was one shooter. But
I get it. There's so much and has been so
much rhetoric and bs and even a politician's basically saying
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you got to go out there and hit them and
punch them and this and that. So it isn't they
even though it was a he. Well, here's the.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Thing that's incorrect. It would appear that it is not
a he, that in fact, it was a group of people,
and who knew about it, who gave the date for it,
who discussed it on what they thought was you know,
a quiet side social media posting. But it looks like
they all knew about it. And so I mean, the
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date and time was given, all of it was given,
and now they're all being hauled in as it looks
like it was part of a conspiracy. You're right, there
was a loan shooter at the university, but it appears
to have been a concerted effort by a group of people.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I have a question that will probably never be answered.
I know some people have asked us, and I thought
it immediately after, right after it happened. Of course, we
were right on top of it when it happened. But yeah,
is he was a long way away, right like two
hundred yards something along those lines, elevated from a position
where the.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Girl up hunting. He was a good shot.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I get that but boy, that's I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It wasn't an amazing shot. It was a good shot.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
It was a good shot.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It was It wasn't like like you know, silver Star
sniper or Afghanistan shot. It was a decent shot for
a hunter.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I thought. I thought that, you know, maybe it was
somebody with some military training, which I was wrong about.
And I did watch a few things, and of course
the more things you watch, the more your head spins
and your eyes want to pop out of your head.
But I did watch an interest and I don't remember
where it is or i'd give a credit for it.
That he may have been quote unquote lucky. He may
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have been shooting for the head shot but shot too low.
He may have been shooting for a center chest but
shot too high. So we don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
He was shooting for the head.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, we don't know that he exactly wanted him where he's.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yah, we do, because he's told us no. But I
mean he was shooting for the head.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No, he didn't hit him in the head, so either the.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Wind or whatever else took it down.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So he was lucky.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That's my point. There was some luck involved in terms
of but when it first happened the instant it happened,
and they first started saying, well it happened from over
here or two huty yards away. The first thought is, wow,
somebody's gotta be good at shooting.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Well here's that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Well, just apparently it wasn't that an amazing shot. It
wasn't And this is from the police utaught police. Now,
there was a there was a campus police officer who
heard the shot, recognized it as a rifle shot, not
as anything, just knew what it was because he too
is a hunter and understood it and looked and knew
it was somebody from an elevated position just because of
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how it had come down, saw where he thought it
could be, ran immediately there and probably missed the shooter
by like literally seconds because he found the place, got there,
found the indentations where you had had, you know, the
shooter up there lying in a pro position waiting for
to take a shot. And by all accounts, and I
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am not I can shoot a rifle, and I'm pretty
good at it, but I'm not, you know, by any
I'm no expert by any stretch of imagination. But according
to those who are, it was a decent shot, not
like an extraordinarily difficult shot. And you know, and keep
in mind too, that this is a campus event with
Charlie Kirk. It's not a Donald Trump event, you know,
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where you have secret Service scouting at outbuildings. Nobody expected
this to happen, So why would you exactly? But the
point that I wanted to make before you.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Went down rabbit hole by rabbit hole B.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Is the fact that all these people who are celebrating
Charlie Kirk's death are out in the open doing it.
But a more insidious obfuscation of what actually happened is
happening in the mainstream media. They are obscuring the background
of the shooter who it turns out, you know, people
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just like remember Rosy O'Donnell that when the Minneapolis school
shooting happened, and she assumed it was a maggot conservative,
just like you assumed it was a military shot because
you're thinking it was that difficult, it had to be
somebody who had advanced training. So people are assuming a
lot of things. I assumed it was, you know, because
right wingers like guns, so it must be a right.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Wing It isn't.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's somebody who is completely left leaning, a progressive and
that was brought out basically by the fact that by
the shooter's mother, who explained to authorities over the last
year or so he'd become more and more left leaning.
Cut number seven.
Speaker 15 (27:54):
Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so,
Robinson had become more political and had started to lean
more to the left, becoming more pro gay and trance
rites oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate,
a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in
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several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and
his father, who have very different political views.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
That point from, by the way, was not just transitioning.
He was also a furry. He was a transitioning from
male to female and a furry he liked cats.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
The problem is that even with that out there, what
the mother says, the notes are left all the evidence
that this is why. And Charlie Kirk was very much
there are two sexes, a man and a woman.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
He was very of that.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That was his.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Position, and so he was making enemies in the trans community.
But here we have the mainstream media assisting and obscuring
this possible motivation. This is Kate Benningfield and CNN saying
there's no indication the shooter of Charlie Kirk acted at
the behest of a left wing, left wing mantra cut
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nineteen c.
Speaker 21 (29:13):
Where it starts to get concerning is when you have
figures from frankly, from President Trump on down, who are
trying to use this moment to suggest that, you know,
there is inherent violence on the left and that the
government should be seeking out and rooting out these organizations,
when we have no indication that this shooter acted at
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the behest of, or through the organization of any of
these groups. And I think when you start to bleed
those two concepts together and create this notion that in
this incredibly fraught moment, in the wake of this horrific,
horrific shooting, when you foment the idea that we have
to be at each other's throats politically, I think that's
a risky I think that's a dangerous place to be.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Scott Jennings was on with Kate Beddingfield, who is former
Obama Biden person, by the way, just so that you know, said,
what the bleep are you talking about? Nineteen b Why.
Speaker 13 (30:10):
Did I do it? I had enough of his hatred.
Some hate can't be negotiated out.
Speaker 20 (30:16):
So can I ask you?
Speaker 21 (30:17):
So he has flat Scott just explained what you just read.
Speaker 13 (30:20):
That is the message that the shooter, Tyler Robinson sent
to his roommate. That is what he said. He also
engraved the word hey, fascist, catch on the bullet For
ten years, we have heard nothing from the left but
that Donald Trump is a fascist, Republicans or Nazis, authoritarians
destroy the constitution. That's bad for a day, And he wrote.
Speaker 20 (30:44):
It on the bullet So can I ask you?
Speaker 13 (30:46):
And he's been obviously marinating in some kind of information
that radicalized him based on what he heard in the
air in this country.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean, so she's trying to hide it. He's like,
stop the op. And he's not the only one. Ted
Cruz got into a fight with Caitlyn Collins over the
same issue. That's twenty one A.
Speaker 20 (31:08):
We don't have a motive yet, we don't know yet.
We're waiting. Obviously, we've heard what the governors had to
say with the course.
Speaker 13 (31:12):
We don't have a motive yet.
Speaker 20 (31:14):
We know, we don't have a motive yet. What's happening with.
Speaker 18 (31:17):
Really that's position. If he's just happened to fire the
gun and celebration, you can't tell the motives.
Speaker 22 (31:22):
Senator, that's not what I said. And I said, law
enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They've laid out
a lot of evidence here of these messages, and.
Speaker 13 (31:31):
They said, who hated Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 22 (31:35):
Senator, with all due respect, you know exactly what I'm saying.
I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying that law
enforcement has not put a specific motive. You know that
there's a difference of what they're putting in illegal they have.
Speaker 20 (31:45):
That's what you're talking about. And you're not even we're
not even about the facts here.
Speaker 18 (31:51):
Just is false, Senator, Caitlyn, No, Caitlan facts. Hold on,
say let me answer your statement, because what you said
is fast.
Speaker 22 (31:58):
Senator, with all due respect law and four A respect,
you don't go ahead.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Don't want facts.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And it's because of people like her and Bettingfield that
you have people like the next cut you're going to
hear whose name is Steve Bannell. He's also called Destiny.
He has a podcast and listen to him. This is
based upon what you just heard from CNN and what
you hear from the progressive left who have built this
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narrative that anybody in the right is a fascist is Hitler,
and and everybody says right that if they could go
back in time, they would kill Hitler and save everybody
who was murdered by World War two and so forth.
But that's not what's happened. They've made Hitler into something
that is now in the present day. And you can
take these people down if you try. And then now
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you have people like Steve Bonell cut eight.
Speaker 19 (32:50):
I need, you need conservatives to be afraid of getting
killed when they go to events, so that they look
to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue
is right now, they don't feel like there's any fear,
like I don't.
Speaker 13 (33:03):
Know, I don't know.
Speaker 19 (33:04):
It's like memes, it's just means to everybody.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I guess.
Speaker 19 (33:06):
I don't know, Bro, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't care. I'm playing video games. Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, so let's kill Let's let's kill more conservatives. Conservative
are afraid to talk now. To be fair the conservative community,
I think he's swing too far to the other side
in regard to response to this horrible rhetoric. They're now
talking about, you know, defunding groups much like President Obama
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tried to do to conservative groups with the I R
S and talking about killing free speech. Basically because I
may abboor Steve Bunnell. I may find him disgusting, but
he's got a right to say what he says. I
don't have to listen to it if I don't like it.
But so I think what's happening is in in response
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to what's happened to Charlie Kirk, the right swinging too far.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
This is JD.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Van's filling in on Charlie Kirk's show on Monday, as
an homage to Charlie Kirk cut ten a.
Speaker 17 (34:04):
Something has gone very wrong with a lunatic fringe, a minority,
but a growing and powerful minority on the far left.
There is no unity with people who scream at children
over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to
excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who
harasses an innocent family the day after the father of
that family lost a dear friend. There is no unity
with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And there is no unity with the people who fund.
Speaker 12 (34:41):
These articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers,
who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father,
deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words
with which they disagreed.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And Vance went even a little bit further. He wants
people to snitch on people who celebrate rated Charlie Kirk's death.
Cut eleven A.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
I promise you that we will explore every option to
bring real unity to our country and stop those who
would kill their fellow Americans because they don't like what
they say.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
But you have a role too.
Speaker 12 (35:16):
Civil society Charlie.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Understood this well, is not just something that flows from
the government. It flows from each and every one of us.
It flows from all of us. So when you see
someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out and help call
their employer. We don't believe in political violence, but we
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do believe in civility, and there is no civility in
the celebration of political assassination. Get involved, Get involved, Get involved.
It's the best way to honor Charlie's legacy.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Now, I think this brings it back to what you
said in the beginning of the podcast, which is both
sides are now acting crazy, and to be honest with you,
the violence is on the left side. It's not on
the right, but the right is over compensating now by
snit stitch on your neighbor, you know, kill free speech.
That to me is trouble. So I understand the and
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in particular, Dvance was a very good friend of Charlie Kirk.
So he's speaking on a personal, a motive level as
well as vice president. But he can't forget he is
vice president and he's saying, snitch on your neighbor. I
have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Long before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, we've had these conversations
on this show about you know, how divided the nation
is and all of that, and we got to come
back together and what have you. Look, I see it,
I hear it. Sometimes it's in the news, sometimes it's not.
I mean, I have my own social media accouncil. I
see people that I thought I knew saying things I
wish they hadn't have said. But here's and I said
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this to you before we took care, before we started recording. Okay,
is Look, if you're remember back to your childhood, whether
it was your mom or your dad, or a teacher
or whoever, you'd be arguing with somebody out something, it
didn't matter. You stole my toy, you through sand, you
did this, you did that, he started it, blah blah blah.
This Really, this is where we're at. I don't care
who started it. Knock it off, and that's where we
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have to kind of get to to even start to
move the ball. I Yet, listen, I understand both sides
have their their passions, their fire their this and their
Charlie Kirk's dead, so obviously the right is now fired up.
But if you want to bring things back together, it
really doesn't matter who started it. It just stop it,
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stop it, stop doing that, or go to your room.
You go to your room. That's it. Everybody go to
their room.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
That actually what President our Vice President Vance was talking
about brings us to our truth ortrol this week. Our
truth control is President Trump. He was in the White
House lawn, so you're gonna hear Marine one in the
background before he was going to the UK and John
Carl asked, what do you make of Pam BONDI saying
she's going to prosecute hate speech, which goes along just
with what you're talking about. Now, and listen to President
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Trump's respond and then you tell me is he serious
or is he just bleeping with John Carl cut number one?
Speaker 17 (38:04):
Please Harem BONDI sayings she's gonna go after hate speech?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Is that? I mean a lot of people out of
your all? I say, hate speech is free speech. You
should probably go after people like you because you treat
me so unfairly. It's hate. You have a lot of
hate in your heart. Maybe come after ABC. Well, ABC
paid me sixteen million dollars recently for a form of
hate speech. Right, your company paid me sixteen million dollars
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for a form of hate speech.
Speaker 18 (38:29):
So maybe they'll have to go after you.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (38:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, so are you saying troll? That's a troll?
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I mean he's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Stick Pam BONDI after John John Carl over at ABC.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He wanted to kneecap Jonathan Carl figuratively, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Is like a cat with a mouse.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
For God's sake, that John Carl, I mean, And there
are not many instances where John Carl would be the
mouse because he's a very intelligent, you know, well thought of,
very very good reporter. And here you have President Trump
at the just batting him back and forth with his
big pause, is what it sounded like to me.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
And John Carl's like, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well, and I know a lot a lot of conservatives
are are are pro Second Amendment and and a lot
of uh of liberals are not. But but really, that
First Amendment has to be protected. And I'm just going
to say this. Listen. I know you can't yell fire
in a crowded movie theater. There are exceptions to the
First Amendment. But I hate you or I don't agree
with you, it's not yelling fire. We gotta be careful
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because I agree if you give a crap about all
the other amendments you got, you got to give a
crap about Amendment one. Maybe it's the next one that
comes under fire and attack, and we can't have any
of our.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think it's a troll too, and I think President
Trump knows it's an I think President Trump thinks it's
a it's an obvious troll, and he's hoping everybody else
will too.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
He's just he's just.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Amusing himself before he has to go on a long
flight to England. I'm pretty sure that's what happened, but
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Speaker 3 (40:03):
Meanwhile, have a great week. I'm Nancy Shack.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Here's my stop. I'm getting off the planet. Okay, I'm
Ben Parker.
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