Dave Draiman and Willie hang out before the Disturbed Tour Kicks off

Dave Draiman and Willie hang out before the Disturbed Tour Kicks off

Episode Transcript

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There it is unstoppable. Eight hsix is one of seven nine KBP.
I fired up man Dave Jamie inhis studio. How cool is this day?
Man came in so thanks for havingme. It's wild Dave sitting the
same place I am like twenty yearsago, twenty plus years ago, and
and uh talk to me in depthabout his first album. Uh and uh

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man, it's been just an unbelievableride career. He are releasing Divisive and
that's uh, that's done. Isas well as you know anything before.
And it's uh, it's obvious thepeople were hungry for new disturbed man,
and I just gotta make you feelprett damn good. Right, Well,
we were definitely dying to give himright disturbed vibe again and to go back

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to the meat and potatoes. Wehad a great time making the record.
Um, you know, we werereally digging the whole you know, old
school vibe and yeah, you know, staccato, polyrhythmic, you know,
just bludgeoning that we were kind ofreally remember early right after the pandemic,
we talked to you about like badMan and you're like, dude, this
is that's one of the baddest songs. That we've we've done one of the

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hardest songs that we've we've brought tothe table and uh man, that was
so well received and great track toplay live, loving it. But people
people get excited about that. Ohyeah, They've been lightening up for every
single one of these new tracks,whether it's Hey You, whether it's Bad
Man, Unstoppable. We're playing allof them live and it's so nice to

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see the you know, the reactionand the exuberance from the fans for the
new material. It's you know,it continues to give us as a band
hope for the future. You know, you have to feel like for a
lot of people, you know,it's wild. It's wild how music when
you jump back and and see itfrom ten thousand feet, how it goes

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through these cycles, you know,and there's um whether it be pop culture
or society. There's these trends andthese pendulum swings that really felt like coming
out of COVID in the pan endemic, that people were hungry for aggressive rock,
mean risks and and just you know, like a brutal honesty about life
and the way we see it andinterpret it. We needed it, man,

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Yea, all of us did.Yeah, I got goose bone thinking
about that, just because there wasa starvation of that almost you know,
Yeah, we were all denied everythingthat were our normal avenues of therapy,
are normal outlets that helped us dealwith the world around us. And absolutely,
you know, got all of usgot sucked into the rabbit whatever the

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hell your particular inclination is, andit exacerbated all of our existing bs about
a thousandfold and made us all alittle bit crazier, you know. So
coming out of it, I thinkwe all needed the therapeutic value of not
just you know, hard rock,but the live experience absolutely and being able

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to congregate together and get together thereand have this see you people who come
from all different backgrounds and walks oflife. You know that for whatever reason,
they all fell in love with thesame song. Yeah, you know,
and they're all have that shared humanityand that shared commonality and that you
know, just release And yeah,release is such a big thing because there's

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so many of my friends that wejust talk about like, man, I
can't I can't wait just to getout there and get a pit, marsh
around, pound around the boys andjust be like that charge and energy you
get from from your music, especiallyafter so long people said, oh you
can't you know, you can't goto the gym, or you can't you
know, you can't go anywhere,you can't eat outside, you can't walk
outside. You got you know,just stay where you're at. And I

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think coming out of that, everybodywas just charged with like just an ankst
to get out there and feed offone another. And man, I'm sure
every time you step out on stageyou're well received in that form of energy
because people love it. I loveit, you know, I love it.
I'm so very very blessed to bethe instrument or a part of the

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instrumentation. I should say that givespeople the ability to set their burdens down
for a while to make them feelmore powerful, stronger, the ability to
break through walls and transcend all thecrap on, mostoppable. Man, you
gotta get that feeling sometimes, youknow, you need to know that,
Oh for sure. Absolutely all right, we're gonna talk some more with Dave.

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You've got a song, so yougonna pick some of the songs,
man, So let's let's have somefun. What is a song of yours
that that surprised you, that thatlet's say, because sometimes, you know,
you go through your artistry and yourdiscipline and you bring to the label,
you know, hey, man,here's fifteen songs, and they're like,

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oh, we need twelve, andyou're like, well, okay,
well all right, I like thesethese these and this one, this one
or whatever. They're like, okay, I like this one, this one,
this one. Well, at somepoint, you guys got to cross
hairs and go like, well,I don't know about that song, but
they want to release it anyway.But yet you're surprised at the outcome or
that it worked. Is there evera song that you have in your arsenal
that surprised you, um on howwell it was received, or one that,

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like you know, to this day'ssurprises you the reaction. There's definitely
several. Um probably way the hellup on the top of that list would
be the cover of the Sound ofSilence. For sure. I had no
idea that it would be as farreaching and resonate with as many people as
Oh my god, I don't knowhow you keeps it going. So I
mean, I mean, I knowhow Facebook. You celebrated the release of

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that on your Facebook just uh,just a few weeks back. That that
song the first time we played it. I think we played it a couple
times in a row because it wasso like I sung that Simon Garfunkel version
in chorus back when I realized Icouldn't sing, you know, when the

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music teacher was like, um,can you get on key? And I'm
like, I thought that was yeah. Um. And when I heard your
version, dude, you talk abouttaking a it's like taking a cartoon to
a horror movie in the way it'slike the depth that it now permeates,
you know, it's like, oh, it's so completely different. Yeah,

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I mean the lyric. You know, Paul Simon is one of the most
prolific songwriters of all time. He'sabsolutely brilliant. And I think that the
lyric always spoke to me. Um. It was always something that I could
definitely relate to and definitely something wewere able to sink our teeth in big

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time. Um and and and makeit make people feel the darker side of
it, may make people feel theadditional weight and depth of what the song
is truly trying to con um werelish it. It's it's one of my
favorite moments every night we perform it. Yeah, I'll never forget the uh,

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the build up to that Red Rockshow when you you had that release
and the moment that I was justanticipating because I was trying to set the
stage and you know, I betat this moment you could hear a pin
drop at Red Rocks. And trulythat moment when they brought out the guitar
and you you knew you were gonnado that. Man, there was just

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a feeling and Red Rocks, youcan imagine, sold out, so you
got ten thousand people shoved into,you know, the side of this rock.
You guys up on stage and setup, the spotlight comes and in
that moment everybody breathed together just thisand then you start. It was like,
man, it was I love itthis day. It's it's like I

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love being able to see an amphitheateror an arena full of people that were
like, you know, full onrocking it out and getting into the heavy
stuff for a moment and being badassesall of a sudden be reduced to the
pile of tears right you know thenext moment and it I love how you
know a reason to fight? Asanother track like that on the new record,

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The duet with Anne Wilson Don't TellMe as another track like that.
I definitely was surprised by how powerfullyit ended up coming together. I didn't.
I love the fact that we cannow make our live shows so dynamic,
that it's not just you know,one bludgeon effort, that there's more

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ebb and flow to it, thatthere's peaks and valleys, and that you
know, if you're constantly being smackedin the face, you get numb,
right right, right, Well,it's a you know, it's a very
it's a well sort of thought outsort of experience that you're giving us.
There's highs, there's loads, there'smemories, experiences and feelings and emotions shared.

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Uh, do you kind of takeus, take us on that that
ride throughout the evening? Something guywho's gonna be expecting and experiencing Tomorrow Ballerina
Man, which is gonna be awesome. So let's get into it. He
got disturbed the sound of Side's MODUseven nine kvpi disturb the sound of silence
to seven nine kvpi day Jamin instudio Ballerina Tomorrow night to gets available,

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grab him? Why you still can? And wow, dude, you know,
we were talking a little bit aboutthat that song and how powerful it
is every time you play it.What was the moment you decided to cover
that? Like, did that songthe decade ago you know you wanted to
do that? Did somebody bring itup and you go, wow, that
song always had a different meaning tome. At what points you decide to

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do that? It was Mikey's suggestionin studio and we were kind of like
banging our head against the wall atthe til end of the recording session,
and you know, I said tothe guys, I'm like, you know,
let's move back from the eighties.We've taken a lot of songs from
that era and tried to cover.Let's let's go further back. You know,
what are you guys feeling? Andpeople start throwing out some suggestions and

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he's like, what about Simon andGarfuncle about the sound of silence? I'm
like, oh, I don't know, dude, So that's hollow ground,
right, It's like yeah, anda lot of people would be very unforgiving,
but Danny had a you know,an idea for it, and um
and and and our producer at thetime, Kevin Cherco did this brilliant you
know, execution of the arrangement,and uh, it just kept building and

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I you know, I took ittook me a few days to figure out
how I was going to do whatI was going to do when I attempted
it. And then and then Kevinput me in the vocal booth for three
hours straight for the longest vocal sessionever in my career, trying every variation
you could possibly imagine of melodic youknow differences and the octave changes that you

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do. Yeah, there's a bigoctave like crescendo there towards the end that
got to build up and you gota little growl, but at the same
time you're you're on your powerful note. It's it's something else and it's amazing.
It's like, oh, it didit for me the first time I
heard it, you know what Imean? And I it took him three
days to comb through all the takesbecause there are so many different variations of

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it, right and to assemble whathe thought was the best together, to
put a comp together for me,And there's nobody else in the room.
It was just me and I'm sittingbehind that board and he's like, you
go ahead, and listen to itas many times as you need. I
listened to it three times before hechecked on me, and you know,
he's you know, checks on me, and I'm like, Niagara fall right,

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you know, just you had toknow it was. It was very,
very jarring to me to be ableto hear myself in a way that
I hadn't allowed myself to sing inso long. So it was and for
it to affect me as deeply asit did. So I was like,
if this is doing this to me, it's got to do this to other

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people too, I would imagine,because normally you're accompanied with all this this
additional things that are made to disruptor are key in on or you know,
bring focus to. But that one, it's it's wild because it's all
stripped away and the only thing thatfills in the shadows is the is the

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piano. Everything else is just theresonance of your voice. And it's,
uh, it's pretty made, thankyou. I'm sure it's uh. Every
night you play, it's the sameunbelievable response to people that have seen it,
either before the first time witnessing it. That um a reason to fight,
Like I mentioned yea or um andI'm very much looking forward to eventually

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being able to perform the duet onon the new record on Devisive, the
track we did with Anne Wilson,don't tell me. I don't know if
we're ever going to be able toget her to come out. And you're
with me, but it told meabout this after the After the Pain,
when when your album was first comingout and you said, this is going
to surprise you. Do we haveit in a system? Yet? Can

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we the way we can find it? And uh and dig it out?
So we had to everybody a treatand see we can get that off for
you, because I mean for you. It had to be wild to be
able to to hey, just reachout to and say, hey, can
you be a part of this thesong and response and her yeah, I

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mean it was. It was aTwitter discussion I was having with a bunch
of my colleagues. It was me, Bruce Dickinson and a bunch of other
guys, and we were all talkingabout who we thought was the best female
rock voice of all time and weall said Anne, Like, everybody said
Anne so and she responded she wasall gracious and you know, flattered,
and I'm like, Okay, here'smy shot. Let me go ahead and

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ask and oh wow, I slidinto her dms you know, and like,
hey, you know, what doyou think? And so and she
was into it. I mean sheshe was a fan of of ours.
She um. She she loved whatwe did with the cover. Yeah,
And I didn't know that that wasgoing to be the song. Was just
the idea that we could do somethingtogether and you know, for the divisive

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record like I meant. And wewere all about going back to the balls
of the wall stuff and doing theaggressive stuff for a while, and we
were having a great time with it. And it wasn't until like the tail
end of the recording session that Ithink our producer Drew Folk was doing some
editing and me and Danny were inthe lounge and just you know, waiting,
and I'm like, you know what, pull out the guitar and bring
out that you know, play methat idea that you had for the ballad.

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You how he had this one balladidea And he starts going through the
progression and cleared my head and Istarted humming this melody and started improvising and
he immediately was like, oh dude, that's that's it. I'm like,
okay, oh, let's let's let'sdevelop this more. And I tracked it
all the way through with my vocalto begin with, and listening back to
it, yeah, I'm like hearingit and I'm like, I said to

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him, I'm like, this isthe one, dude, we got.
We gotta pitch this to Anne Wow. And I sent it to her and
she loved it, And next thingI know, a week later, me
and Danny were flying out to theWest Coast to meet up with her and
her husband and track her and wegot to sing together. I got to
show her the tail end of thesong where you hear me go, whoa

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that whole little section that you herethat no one heard until that moment.
I showed her first in the studiothat idea, and she already she said,
man, She's like, that couldbe a whole other song in and
of itself. I'm like, yeah, I think I got something here.
So it was such a crazy,crazy experience. And when you came together
and started doing it. Sometimes Ihear musicians do this and they they had

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a connection and things just the meldingjust comes so cohesively that it's it's one
of those things where you knew orjust know that it's supposed to be,
that it's all the pieces fit together, and it just it worked. It
definitely took a little bit of ebband flow, you know. I mean
the second line where she comes inand the verse originally was positioned where I

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sing it so about an octave lowerright, yeah, and that was a
little too low for her, Andshe's like, are you okay with me
going up? I'm like, yeah, I'm okay with Are you you want
full vibraut? I'm like, andI want you to bring you know,
the full, the full good.And so we started improvising, and I
started helping her with trying to figureout an alternate melody and and and helping

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her with the harmonies and singing withher in the vocal booth, and it
was just so incredible and truly abucket list experience I will never forget.
Well, let's take a break.We get to hear it next, so
then you'll be you'll be a bigfan of after tomorrow when you see it
live here at live you're gonna playit tomorrow, I don't know, I
don't know we have it ready yet, but okay, it will be played

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live eventually. It's gotta be wildtoo, man, because you're at the
point, well, Scoop and Iwere talking about this last week. It's
at the point where you could changeup. You're saying you have such an
arsenal and just I mean you couldprobably if you wanted to change the set
list every night to some degree withall the toys that we brought out with
us for this run, that wouldprobably will be a little danger, yeah,
I would be, yeah, forsure. But you have enough music

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for sure. And it's a greatproblem crazy, yeah, for sure.
And there's always gonna be somebody that'supset that we left something, yeah,
which is also a good problem,no doubt. All right, back with
some new rock, say Jamie instudio to Stare at mar and Night Paul
Arena, twenty seven, nine KBPI. That's pretty cool how you taper strip
away all the instruments and sound andeverything around it until the endian there when

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it's just raw vocals. Uh's idea. That's pretty cool, man. It's
uh one cool song. So obviouslya very very very personal song. Didn't
realize how personal it would end upbecoming because it originally was written about Danny's
divorce. Really I was not divorcedyet. Wow. I had no intention

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of the song becoming prophetic, butman did it ever? Oh my god?
Yeah? Who because you hear that, I mean every guy that,
every person that's been in a seriousrelationship and you know, unfortunately things uh
will reach a point where you knowyou have to sever ties and move on
uh in a different direction. Butthat's always tough and probably you know,

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as as humans, probably the biggesthurdles that we face outside you know,
some people that that fight, youknow, the demons of addiction their whole
lives. So you know, um, for a lot of people, Um,
if it's not something like alcohol ora drug there you become addicted to.
It's a heartbeat. So you know, severing ties with that when you

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know it's what's best is very challengingfor so many people. Yeah, and
it's definitely something that everyone can relateto on Yeah for sure. Yeah,
whether it's your first love or youknow, your first wife, or you
know, something gone to ride downdown a path where you thought of it

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would it would never happen. It'sa that's touch on something that we've we've
all experienced I'm sure. And that'swhat the beauty of music does, is
it enables you to come to termswith it, to get past it,
to transcend it, to to beable to feel, you know, some
form of therapy to help you outof it. It helps you exercise the

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deals. Every times you're like,hey, would you just listen to the
song I'm out there? You go, uh so, man, obviously,
you know you got to think throughso many years of being you know,
front man for a rock band,and so many you know, cycles of
of like you think about, youknow, late nineties, early two thousand,
when when you decided to start this, this crazy adventure. Now twenty

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four, twenty five years into themix, it's got to be wild for
you because you've seen so many facesand have seen so many experiences and shared
so many even though you may notbe partisan to them all, but there's
so many connections you made through yourmusic with people on the other end like
that, sure, for sure.And it never I never, it never

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ceases to amaze me. I neverget tired of it. Um. You
know, it continues to reach moreand more people, It continues to strengthen
and empower more and more people,And I love that after all this time
that we're still on an upward trajectory, will still falling or still climbing,

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which is such an an anomaly intoday's environment, in any environment. So
I'm very very blessed and very veryfastful, especially we speaking with Dave jam
front Men a third, especially withthe world where everything's so quick now and
instantaneous, we become you know,I call them cell phones because they literally

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have a trap in the cell.It's like a cage. It's the adult
version of a pacifier. And everythingso instantaneous now people want that gratification and
that instant you know, TikTok video, everything's fifteen seconds, thirty seconds,
so it's wild to watch that andand how it's set in almost poisoned so
many people nowadays because the attention spanis it's just gone, man, I

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would agree. I mean, andpeople are just barraged by you know,
stimuli. They just have an alimitless you know, menu of items to
continue to you know, try andget their brain rolling in some direction or
another. And it's it's massive addon the global level. And can we

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Yeah, we had we had afuturist guy come in a few weeks back
and we speak with him on occasion. His name is Thomas Fry, called
the Future. So he travels allover the world right and between science and
the medical field and technology. Hepulls all these tentacles in and gives formulas,
predictions and forecasts for what's coming five, ten, fifteen, twenty years

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down the road. So he's hepublicized all over the world. Very very
articulate guy. And when he's inhere speaking with us the other day,
he was mentioning that something that we'regoing to be well, somebody's gonna shock
us is these these little nanobots.It's gonna freak you out. But these
little nanobots um now that will formyour your scan almost a layer that becomes

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your shirt, your your pants,becomes your medication. So they're so small
that you're breathing them and they goin and can repair you. And they
have your DNA, so their programto you. So whatever you want to
look like where or have on,that's also your security and stuff like that.
But it's it's wild because that thatnanotechnology becomes your little swarm, and

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we all have our personal swarms.And uh, part of their job is
to you know, direct us throughoutour days. It's just wild. When
you think about where it's going.It sounds like the guy watched the last
James Bond movie. Yeah, dude. To think about some of the you
know, the stuff that we see. You know, he's projecting fifteen twenty
years out ye and all this crazystuff. It's wild because where do you

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see Where do you see music andentertainment and even live shows. I don't
think they're ever gonna go away becauseI feel like that's the one access that
people can still have in this crazyworld. But everything's so instantaneous and so
you know, gratification these be nowand it's hard to say. Man,
I hope that things don't get morevirtual than they currently are. You know,

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I think that I'm having the humanelement. I you know, I
know that AI is now a factorin the creative world, and you know,
the the thing about songwriting, andI know that they have these bots
and these AI engines to generate songs. It's like when it comes to something

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that's like EEDM style or that ismore club oriented or things of that nature,
I can see a bot doing it. I can see it assembling things
that makes sense from a rhythmic,from a melodic standpoint, But there's no
science to songwriting. It's not somethingyou can tell no, no, and

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look, I can tell you okay, And this is undeniable that the universal
template for what the structure of thevast majority of songs that you and I
have fallen in love with over thecourse of our lives has been verse chorus,

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verse, chorus, bridge, outro, chorus. Okay, just about
every song in existence. Okay.That there's some science too, that there's
some preconditioning of the human brain that'sbecome accustomed to hearing songs that way.
But to find that mystical combination ofnotes, that melody that you can't predict,
that you can't dissect, that isnot something you can plug into any

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sort of formula, is not somethingthat can be taught. It's not something
that a computer of any kind,artificial intelligence or otherwise can predict or can
put together in the manner that itwill enable the hairs on the back of
your neck to stand up, thatit will resonate within the human soul,

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because if you hit the nail onthe head, there is soul involved.
And that's case in point with youknow, there's so many virtuoso players out
there, so many great instrument players, guys who can be the most amazing
shredders on guitar, who have youknow, an octave range that may mind

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looks silly that you know. Imean, all these guys who are just
the best thing ever, but theycan't write a song. They can't write
a hook. You can't teach that. It's either in you or it's not.
And it's not something that a computercan learn either. And so I
definitely think that the live experience willnever going away. I think the heart

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of true songwriting will never go away, and and it'll never be able to
be replaced. I mean, believeme. For guys like me, old
road warriors like me, who areyou still trying to do what we do
live? And you can count uson one hand. Ladies and gentlemen.
There are so many artists out therewho have become so dependent on track and

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tape and everything else. And look, God bless you know, whatever puts
on the better show. And it'samazing how far we've come from the whole
Ashley Simpson deboggle back of the worldand now it's like just become acceptable in
the norm. And it's like,how do you compete against that. When

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somebody is as perfect as they canbe night after night, Well, you
know what perfection doesn't showcase soul.There's a human element, there's a human
quality, there's emotion, there's struggle, there's you know, different parts of
your tonality that change from an emotiveperspective, from even a perspective of sounding

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a little bit fatigued, that area part of the character of the delivery
of the voice in particular that Ithink are precious and I would never in
a million years have it any otherway. You know, it's funny you
say that because one of my favoritesongs, and what maybe think of this
song, but one of my favoritesongs from their Vanna is Lake of Fire

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right, And in that song youhear the fatigue in his voice, in
that little struggle to try to acquirethat that high note and it's almost off
just a little bit, but it'sthat inconsistency that makes it perfect, and
that little you feel the emotion,Yeah, yeah, feel the emotion.
You felt it during their acoustic duringtheir own plug session. You felt it

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during you know when Lane Staium Mayhe rested, when when they when Alison
Chains did their own plug session.He was suffering, you know, he
was already in the downward spiral.And and but you could feel it.
You could feel that the struggle.You could feel the depth of emotional delivery.
And and I hope that that's somethingthat never completely goes away. Right,

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There's no way you're gonna be ableto just show fifteen thousand Hallmark cards
in the chat GPT and it kickout the perfect SONGI no, uh,
they're gonna try it. Though,they're gonna try it lyrics, they can
try the melodic variation to find thatfind a story, find the connection,
right, because I think that's whatthat's the thread that sews us all together.

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Right, we were all just edo. You look at us as this
you know, wild canvas or tapestry, and that needle that that pierces all
of us in one ear and andyou know, goes in our mind and
exits and it moves on to thenext person. It links us all together.
And I think that emotion that yourefer to is a very divine part

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of it. Huge. So yeah, it's going to be something that I
think is always um the gotcha partof the song, the one that hooks
you were you're attached to it somehow, And I will never ever, you
know, not be so grateful andso feels so incredibly blessed and and just
honored to be able to still,somehow, some way have that ability to

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permeate the soul and to be ableto find those notes and those combinations of
notes that still give you the chills, give the next guy the chills,
and you know, a thousand peopledown the line, And so I'm so
so happy to be able to stillkeep doing it. Yeah, no doubt,
man, I would be too,because you're kicking that ass all right.

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We gotta take a break now wecome back, MANU. Other bands
that you were inspired by now oror other bands that you know you go
to? What like we're gonna findout coming up? What is Dave Draymond's
like go to when he's you know, not feeling maybe you won't step away
from from rock for a minute.Who knows he may put on some oh

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I don't know, some spinners,rubber band man and dance with his son
Sam. Who knows you'd be surprised. Yeah, we're gonna find out here
in just a minute. Seven ninekbpi bread stuff right there? Remember the
first time we played that, itwas like, oh uh, day was
fired up man when he did that. When we were talking about it on
the air. I think we playeda few times that morning, Dave Draymond

(30:56):
in studio. Now we'll be aballerina tomorrow for the big show to there
and breaking Benjamin. Does it everget old? Man? Because when you
hear that dude that's just as chargedup, it makes you just it wakes
a walk with that, you know, that Pitt walk. You know,
yeah, man, it gives youthat all about it. It still energizes

(31:19):
us, and I still never gettired of watching the crowd get whipped into
a frenzy. Man. I loveit. I love it. So you
know, when you're trying to checkout, you know where he's speaking before,
you know, kind of the breakabout maybe there's something in your playlist
that people would be somewhat surprised by. People would be like what if if,

(31:41):
For example, Um, I gotBuddy Jeff that when I get a
chance to work out, I'll plugmy phone in and I download all all
his music. I'm one of thoseschool get people that still buys it.
I gonna go find the you know, the the Apple store and actually go
buy it because I'm one of thelast people to actually buy the records an
Apple. Um So I go andI buy it, I download it and

(32:04):
I'll put in my phone in thegym and it'd be it'd be everything from
you know, Divisive or the Newfive Finger. I think we're just speaking
about too to something way up todeep end, like you know, um,
uh, what's a good one?Uh Stevie Wonder, Superstitious or you
know, something kind of like thator you know, the Weekend or something

(32:27):
like that. Somebody's like, whatthat's on your playlist? You know,
if people didn't be like, noidea, or it might be a country
song on there, Um, what'son your playlist that people would would be
like? What if somebody just pluggedin? Let's look. So, as
I was describing to you before,we were talking about this a little bit,
um, so, I've got thesongs that helped me ignore everybody at

(32:52):
the airport. Yeah yeah, um. But in addition to reviewing our own
catalog, But I got Andrea Bicellion here. Um, I've got jay
Z, I've got DMX, I'vegot Dre, I've got Elton Elvis,
I got um, let's see whatelse, Johnny Cash. Yeah, I

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got Missy Elliott. I got this, uh, this Israeli artist by the
name of Yah. I got SarahMcLaughlin Snoop Dog old type of usher like,
oh kind, I got I gotstuff that people would be you know,

(33:37):
I'm sure all of that would surprisepeople. Yeah, I still have
a bunch of you know, regularhard rock and rock in general in there.
But I'm I'm I'm all about mixingit up and and sometimes it's just
refreshing, you know. Yeah,that's different. I love great voices,
no matter where they come. Igot a Dell on the phone, you
know. I mean, I neverbroke her heart, made her rich Man

(34:00):
tell you, you know, Imean, but that's the case with all
of us. Yeah, I mean. Taylor Swift's another one. I mean,
you know, she every every newheartbreak, a new more album.
She Uh. They was reading earliertoday she's coming here this weekend, and
they were telling fans because fans herticket prices have been through the roof.
Yeah, and fans have just beenshowing up outside the venues and just like,

(34:22):
well, I'm paying three thousand dollarsget in. I was there,
but I was in the parking lotand they're tailgat and I'm like, what
they're tailgating and they're telling fans notto show up in a power field here,
and I'm like, a good luck, you know what, show up?
Why not? It's music, baby, However you can get it.
I don't care if it's in theparking lot, go well, go out
there get it. You know what, the stadium will still be packed.

(34:43):
It won't matter. It'll have anotherwhole crowd outside, right. You know.
It's just testimony to just how powerfulof a force she is to be
able to fill you know, stadiumsor not just once, but multiple nights
in a row. To have thatkind of fan fair, to have that
on a demand. I mean,the music needs people like her. Music

(35:05):
needs, you know, more peoplelike her. So I don't know people,
people hear me gushing about her,and it's it's it's real. I
think she's She's you know, somethingthat is such a source of hope.
I have mad respect for any artist, especially a younger female artist, who
is probably one of the most prolificsongwriters of our era. Yeah, for

(35:28):
sure, to be able to getout there and sing live, play in
a guitar, a live guitar infront of a stadium full of young fans.
It gives me hope for the nextgeneration then not everything will be computer
generated, that not everything is goingto be cut and pace, that there
still is soul to it, andthere still are people like her and Pink

(35:51):
and Gaga and others like her thatthat that still do it live and still
you know, write their own shipand still you know, do everything that
they're that you would expect for themto do, you know. And as
a too dantified artist, Sorry,I let that slip there, guys.
Sorry, I saw you caught thatreal quick. He's a ninja, which

(36:12):
is so right man. It's uh. It does, and it shows you
that there is a demand for thatand there is He's such a connection there.
And yeah, I mean, Ilove the new you know. I
love the new country artists that arekind of fusing a little bit more rock
with it. I love I loveguys like you know, Hardy and jelly
Roll. I think you're doing amazing, you know. I I ran into

(36:35):
jelly Rolling in in Los Angeles nottoo long ago. I'm just seeing just
such the amazing amount of positivity comingout of him and great energy and seeing
the smile on his face and himloving this new you know, part of
his life and how he's affected.I mean that that you know, need
a Favor is one of those songsthat helped me get through when I was
in my dark moments. You know, I, I, I, and

(37:00):
and you have these artists that area center song if you have to that
he's got. He's a hell ofa storyteller as well. Yeah, yeah,
um yeah, man, it's uh, it's well, there's some great
artists that you know, if yougot throughout the time, it's always interesting
to watch what makes that connection inthe in the way that the story is

(37:22):
told. It always comes back tothe human element of it and the you
know, I always say there's strengthenedstruggle, that that rock Bottom has built
more heroes than privilege ever has.And whenever that struggle occurs, whether it's
your relationship, you know, somethinghappened, or a fragment in your life.
Uh, when you're able to finallypick yourself up and dust yourself off

(37:44):
afterwards, you're a much stronger individual. I'll be a little more scar but
yeah, you're a much stronger person. I'll tell you, man, I'm
tired of being strong. I couldI could go for an easy year,
just one year, one year thatI don't have to deal with that kind
of thing would be nice. Wesaw that you jumped on Twitter because that

(38:07):
was a story, and I'm likethat, I told Skeep, I'm like,
I'm gonna give a day, aboutthree or four days on on Twitter
because it is a show out there. Oh dude, Oh my god,
absolute train right, Oh my god, all of social media it is.
I mean. And and like wesaid before, the pandemic exacerbated. It
made everybody, It fed everybody steroids. It it made everybody go down their

(38:30):
respective rabbit holes a hundred times deeperthan they were before. And it's just
nuts. It's a crazy time.But going back to what you were saying
about, how you know all thesedifferent types of music. I love the
fact that people will go ahead andtalk so much smack about this current era
that oh, you know, Imissed the old you know, classic days.
Whatever, there's no good stuff comingout. We just talked about a

(38:52):
great, a whole bunch of newstuff. And that's not exclusive to country
or pop or anything else. Therock genre and of itself too, Like
take a band like you know badomens. You know, take Take Take
any number of bands out there,The Guys and I Prevail, Um,
the Guys and um uh asking Alexandre. We were the first station to h

(39:13):
to play I Prevail. Funny story, I found it on a Facebook.
Um. Actually the crow is datingat the time. Saw it on Facebook
and I said, what is that? I said, go back to that
and I'm like, no way,because they did a cover of Taylor Swift
song. So we started playing onthe radio and oh, it's great crush
right, and then the Powers toBe you know what I heard was like

(39:36):
stopped playing that, and I'm like, yeah, whatever, we kept playing
it and stopped playing that. Andthen what was funny is we became friends
with the guys because we're the firststation of playing them. I remember they
all had jobs delivered pizza, workingat a bank. When they signed their
record deal. They called me thatday in their living room because they signed
a record deal. Um, andthey were like they actually said thanks on

(39:57):
their first album to me because II found him on Facebook and just started
playing him. And you know,even though the Powers to Be were like,
don't play him, We're like,yeah, let's just play him anyway,
They're not gonna fire us, youknow. So it just blew up
from there and they and they backit up with all their other scenes.
They really you know, band fallingin reverse. Those guys too. I
mean, there's so much young inspiringstuff coming out. I all those people

(40:23):
that say that you know, thereisn't anything current or all those people and
you know who I'm talking about,whose guys the same? Rock is dead?
You know, I mean, whata joke. Well, maybe if
we just put Kiss at the underdyeah, you know, I'll do it.

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And don't get me wrong, Ilove Gene. I'm the biggest Kiss
fan on the planet. But please, Rock is not dead. Rock will
never die. It's not it isstrong, it's vibrant, and you know
what, take a listen to thenew generation of artists. I think that
right now, there's just so much, like we've discussed before, stimuli out
there. There are people's attention spanand with the modern age of the Internet,

(41:08):
they have access to so much thatbands don't get the spotlight shined on
them the way that they used to. And there's almost too much. It's
information overload, right, So,and there's two major factors that we are
still reeling from as a community.One is the fact that the entity that

(41:30):
made the Metallica's, the Guns N'Roses and the acdcs of the world,
this wonderful thing that used to becalled music television, which doesn't deserve the
m in front of her anymore.It no longer exists in the way that
it used to in terms of apromotional entity. And there aren't enough powerful
rock radio stations like this one,okay that there used to be all over

(41:53):
the country that have been swallowed upover the course of the past decade.
It, you know, thank godfor stations like KBPI that keep on,
you know, carrying the torch anddoing what you guys do. There needs
to be more of you. Yeah, man, I a whole hardly agree
there does. And you know,I think as time will show, uh,

(42:16):
there will be. And I feellike, especially now and the next
you know, several years to come, Rocket has got a foothold and it's
gonna it's gonna like the like thephoenix rising from the ass. It's gonna
stand up and be a big beacon. And amen, brother, Look,
we just came from overseas playing infront of hundreds of thousands of people,

(42:37):
you know, some of the biggestfestival crowds in existence. I don't think
it's anywhere near dead, not evenclose to dead. I mean it's absolutely
none. Look now, granted wecan't pull Taylor Swift numbers right for sure,
right right, But still, Imean it's crazy. We played in

(42:58):
front of a hundred thousand people overat Download in the UK. I mean,
so I can't be mad about showingme a picture of this is an
ocean. People like, oh mygod, it's the largest attendance they've had
so far at the festival. Soit's not going anywhere. We're still we're
the bastard step child, you know, We're We're we're the quiet but powerful

(43:22):
underdome. And we may not beembraced by the masses in the way that
you know, pop and hip hopand some of the other genres are,
but that's okay, you know.And I kind of like us being where
we're at. I kind of likeus being you know, the one that

(43:43):
you don't see coming. It's likeit's like al Pacino from you know,
SENTI not know from the Devil's addYes, yeah, see us coming,
see us coming. We're world they'redoing push up, playing a little and
Boston Up come on. Uh trulyis man And you know when people I

(44:04):
imagine a festival like that, Godand you know, so it's like you're
gonna have tomorrow that just for youand the other guys and new bands.
You got Breaking Benzman on your bill, other bands that it's got to be
an inspiration. It's it's wild tothink that you've gone from one of those
bands that you would see out infront or a second stage or even headlining.

(44:24):
It's inspiration for the fans and otherbands at these festivals. Bands that
are just now. It's like bandsprobably look at you guys and go men.
Twenty years, twenty five years,they're still doing it. That's you
know, that a download. Youknow, we had all of a bunch
of the younger bands side stage watchingand you know, being very very complimentary,

(44:49):
very cool. Um, I knowChris from Motionless and White, you
know, another like yeah, youknow it's doing amazing, amazing work.
But he was side stage as well. I'm sorry, I'm your performance,
Chris. I tried to get overthere but they locked everything down. Couldn't
get over there. But um,it's very weird. For us to now
be in that position, because I'mstill the guy that goes side stage to

(45:10):
watch the other bands prior to usgoing on. I still like watching,
and I still feel like we're stillthe young band that has so much to
prove, you know, and andso to be now I guess what some
would call somewhat of a heritage artist, you know, which is even weird
for me to say. And tobe the band that is now inspiring a

(45:36):
whole new generation of young rock bandsis so gratifying and and so you know,
overwhelming and humbling. I don't takeit for granted on any level.
And it's really just such an amazingride that we're continuing to experience. An
all right, let's get some JohnnyCash and Guy's Gonna cut you Down.
It's one of our favorite Johnny Cashtunes. Hell yeah, we love that

(45:59):
track. When we come back,we have to ask some different stuff of
Dave Draymond, Like, all right, so imagine this. You can answer
this after Johnny Cash. I knowyou don't take a tour bus anymore,
but you're on a road trip.You and you're son Sam. Okay,
you're on a road trip. You'reabout to hit a stretch of highway like

(46:19):
southern Colorado, Like I was justat Man. You go about two hundred
miles without a thing in sight.So pull into your seven eleven or fast
quickie stop or whatever, and itsays last services for two hundred miles.
And you guys are hungry. Whatare you in, Sam getting to eat
and to drink? And what's sortof collectible do you want to find at

(46:40):
the truck stop? All right,that's what's next day. Draymond, all
right, different side of a Johnnycash Ron. Now there's one seven nine
kvpi. Oh, we had DaveDraymond of Disturbed in studio. He's gonna
be Ballerina tomorrow. Now the bigTime show What you Got day in Denver.
That's gonna be fun. Man.Any family friends you gonna hook,
I will catch up with. Wegot work to do, man, Yeah,

(47:02):
you know, kicking the tour outhere. I gotta we gotta play
with all of our new toys.It's uh, it's it's important so that
we don't end up becoming a humanbarbecue on that stage. So no doubt.
All right, So if Dave andyour son Sam run a road trip,
you're pulling into a truck stop ora seven leven or something. Uh,

(47:24):
what is it a pilot truck stopor jay something flying Jay, flying
Jay. That's it, flying Jay, trucks out rolling in all right?
What is David Sam getting to lastthem four hours on the road? Um?
And Uh? As far as snacksand treats and drinks, what do
you got? It's a truck stop, so it's tough. Well, from

(47:46):
my kid, it would probably justbe As far as drinks would just be
water. He's he doesn't really dothe sodas. It doesn't my two kids
doctor pepper crazy. He won't hewon't touch it. And if it's he's
it's been. So how shall Iput it? Privileged that he won't drink

(48:07):
regular orange juice like it's got tobe fresh squeezed and drink and think he's
got very particular taste. But mykid also has a bunch of allergies too,
so finding something for him to eat, he'd probably grab a bag of
Doritos, probably some Eminem's if youcould find it, and I'd have to

(48:27):
suffer his you know, sugar highfor the next few hours. As far
as me, I would be prayingto the road gods that there's a subway
in that I could have somewhat healthysandwich or something or other, because you
know, finding something that will notonly do damage that will take me weeks

(48:52):
to repair and or really mess withmy acid reflux more than I care to
have it messed with. It isa challenge out there. So for the
truck good place for us, it'stough. It's funny. We stopped this
place Quincy that was coming back fromthis road trip yesterday and it was the

(49:13):
only place in this little town inSidelia, uh and no Salida, so
it's only place in this town Salidathat looked like you could pull up a
seat. There was a McDonald's thatwe were a little bit road weary,
so we stopped and went in andit was kind of funny. Becauls on
the outside of the sign and saidsteaks and drinks, and the only thing
on the menu steaks and drinks.Coodn't or chicken coldn't order park it was

(49:36):
either no. We got filet mignonto day. We're out of the rear
bis, so you got steaks anda drink. So the whole family dove
into some steaks. But it wasactually pretty awesome, man, he got
steaks aside and a drink for likefifteen bucks. Couldn't get that anywhere,
So beat that. Yeah, man. Road shipping sometimes, uh provide you
some hidden gems when you know youdon't too much of the road stuff as

(50:00):
you used to. But I'm sureback in the day when you would come
in to, you know, toa new town, especially starting out,
was there was the os Fest?Was there a moment I remember you writing
something really really solid if what wasit about? It was about Chester?
I believe it was about the passing. When Chester passing, you wrote something

(50:23):
really solid on your Facebook page andI was I was reading it about other
memories you made and how you spokewith you know, some of your friends,
and now I think you were swimmingat the time if I recall,
right, um, when you foundout. Um, but it's got to
be wild for you to roll intoa town now because everybody knows you.

(50:47):
But when when you were just startingout, was there a moment that you
realize all your hard work will startto pay off? Like there there's that
transition where you're climbing up and youreached the summit and aw all of a
sudden you're like, man, I'mhere, this is you know, and
you'll probably say that you're you're noteven there yet, but there had to

(51:09):
be a moment where you're like youcould see it and feel it. And
whether it was a crowd or ashow, it was definitely a show.
And if you have ever seen thelive video for Down with the Sickness,
that was it. It was atwhat at the time was called the World
Music Theater and Tinley Parked, Chicago. Now I forget what it's called,

(51:30):
and I know that the proprietors aregoing to be upset with you for that,
but you know, you know howit is with these amphitheaters. They
change ownership every few years and it'sa different name. But that was where
we headlined our first radio show,and it was like, man, twenty
five thousand people and I was like, okay, this is it. We

(51:51):
we've I never dreamed in a millionyears that we would be able to do
that. I thought that I knowthat we had always talked back in the
day. There's a there's a oldertheater in Chicago called the Riviera Theater that's
about like a three thousand seater somethinglike that, and we used to always
say, Man, if we couldjust fill rooms like that all over the

(52:13):
world, you know, and we'llreally have made it, you know.
But to play to twenty five thousandand headline and yeah, and to feel
that energy and you know, thatwas a truly transcendent moment for me,
for us, you know, forDisturbed in general. Yeah, what a
it's gonna be crazy as as thatgrowth in her. The walkout on the

(52:36):
stage each night or each time andsee another layer or level of people you
know, probably started out and there'sfifty or one hundred, and then the
next thing you know, you blinkand there's two hundred, and you blink
again. There's man five hundred.We sold out a thousand seat venue,
and all of a sudden you blinkand it's been a decade and now you're

(52:58):
in front of ten thousand or fifteenthousand people regularly. What a what a
pursuit? And do you ever liketo have the opportunity to step back and
take a breath and go Man,No, for sure, that teacher in
high school was so wrong. Youknow, people said stay cool in your
yearbook. Dude, you did.There's a lot of people that couldn't never

(53:20):
lived up to that. There's alot of people that were wrong, and
thankfully so they're they're happy they werewrong too. I mean my parents were
wrong, and my college were wrong. I mean, you know, everybody
I left. I was a healthcareadministrator prior to quitting my job and trying
to become a rock star, andit was it was devastating for a lot

(53:44):
of people to realize that I wastaking this chance and I was leaving this
good corporate gig. I already hadthe six figure salary and the company car
and the company pager. This tellsyou how long you know page me back?
Yeah, but yeah, I meansometimes you got to take a chance.

(54:06):
And we all we all believed inourselves and and and the music where
we were creating. And it wasthe best chance I ever took. Wow,
Pabo won't still be the best bestinvestment you'll ever make is in yourself.
Hell yeah, and uh truly,uh something that you see come to
fruition for you by taking that risk. A lot of people would argue,

(54:29):
you know, what are you doing. You're leaving a you know, a
great job, a great gig.This is what you're supposed to be doing.
You're like, no, I'm supposedto be doing this, and I
think that even the people back thenwho questioned it, now coming to see
it and having born witness to thelive experience that we offer people, they

(54:50):
get it right, They got it. Who is the band that I don't
know when when you've toured with ummade a big impression the first time you
saw him, whose stage presence foryou was so impressive that they just kind
of blew you away the first timeyou saw him. Scott Wiland, he
rest in peace, no doubt.When we did what they called back in

(55:15):
the day the Return of the RockTour, and it was us and God
Smack and them. Um. Youknow, Scott was in his prime,
and he was he had moves likeJagger and Bowie combined and just with Sachet
all over that stage while he wasdoing his thing, and I was just
an absolute awe just awe struck.I mean he was devastatingly good, I

(55:40):
mean crazy good. I mean him, Um, Ozzie obviously back in the
day, Phil, you know,at back in the day, Um,
And I'm sure you know and andand I can't obviously let it go.
But guys like James Setfield, BruceDickinson. I mean, you know,

(56:04):
all these guys, Maynard James Keenanfrom Tool, Jonathan Davis from Corn China,
Moreno from the Deftnes, all theseguys, you know, so incredible
to watch live. You know,these guys, Mike Patton from Faith No

(56:24):
More. I mean, the listgoes on and on and on. I
mean, there are just so manyincredible, incredible front Man Ronnie James Dio
may he rest in peace. Allthese guys just were just Rob Halford another
guy. I mean, there's somany of the people that have been my
inspiration that I've been blessed to meetover the course of this walk of life.

(56:50):
And I still keep pinching myself thatI get to call these guys my
colleagues and my friends, and andthat I can hold you know, some
of them in my memory and andand really cherished those moments. So we
talked about several of your best shows. Speaking with Dave Dreaming front manis third
in Tomorrow Night, Paul Areni Bodograbingtickets. We've We've got a really cool

(57:10):
guitar we're gonna give away here inabout thirty minutes, as well as a
four packet of tickets, so hangingfor that. We've talked about several of
the shows that have made a bigimpact or have changed your perspective in some
way or fashion. Um, we'regonna take a break, but when we
come back, you gotta tell usabout the worst shows that I've seen or
that I've played. Either I'm notgonna I'm not gonna rag on any of

(57:36):
my colleagues. I'm not that guy. The worst show that you're you've ever
played? That's all right, allright, right, we get the answers
when we get back. At justthe seconds BPI. You know what you
think about some many of your songs. Get so many of your songs when
they were released, and they hadsuch an energy and attitude and different appeal

(58:00):
and texture to him. You justbrought a kind of a groundbreaking sound to
rock. You really did. It'sfunny. Years ago I said, Dave,
how would you want to be rememberedone hundred years from now? And
you said, I hope it's notthe out Wow, that would be one.

(58:22):
You know what, there are worsethings. You know, you're right,
But it's funny because God, there'sso many songs that have been that
significant change or pivot in in theway rock sounds, and you've really been
at the leading than the edge ofthat and curvature of that, which is

(58:43):
it's got to be a reason.You know, you're a couple of decades
into it now and still you know, just crushing the killing it. Um.
We spoke a lot about so manyof your awesome shows. Tell us
about the one that was like,oh, I hope to god I never
have to go through that again.The worst one ever, ever, ever,
ever was. It was an asFest show actually in La of all

(59:07):
places, and I had undiagnosed strepthroat. I didn't know I had it.
I didn't know what was going onwith me. And you know,
I had seen a rock duck,like, you know, two shows before.
He's like, oh, no,you're fine, you don't need any
antibiotics, You'll be okay. Justyou know, it's allergies, it's this,

(59:29):
it's whatever. And here we arein front of you know, the
LA crowd, you know, oneof the biggest shows of the run.
And I don't think I ever soundedworse in my life. I mean I
could barely make a note, andI'm out there squeaking and struggling and distorted
and just I mean I could havejust as well just sank into the damn

(59:54):
floor on that stage. I mean, I was devastated. The crowd was
not happy. I was not happy, nobody was happy. Nobody was happy.
It wasn't good for anything. Yeah, that was That was a train
wreck. Unfortunately too funny. I'msure as as time goes on, you
know, and we we look athow you're you know, because guys,

(01:00:15):
he's got this big, this bigsort of schedule today. So people don't
realize what goes into a production likeyou guys are putting on tomorrow at Ballerina.
For a lot of people, Iam assuming they think that you just
walk in and everything. He's like, all right, man, here's your
spot, and it's your place,do your thing and it's over right.

(01:00:37):
A lot of people, I'm I'mbetting are somewhat surprised when they find out
what your schedule is like today.So as you get ready to kick off
this tour here in Denver, whatis your schedule? What are you diving
into today? What do you whatdoes Dave Draymond have to do as the
as the front man. The guy'sreally plugged into you know, that that

(01:00:58):
connection and that energy once on stage, how is your day laid out?
Well, we're heading over to thevenue at two o'clock, and I got
to make sure that I'm in positionswhere I don't end up becoming a human
barbecue. There's a lot of fire, there's a lot of moving parts.
I don't want to give away toomuch of what the production entails, but

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it is dangerous, and it iscomplex, and it is intricate, and
each song has its own respective lookand its own respective positioning. And you
know, we like to move arounda lot up there own stage. We're
not these guys who stand in frontof our positions and just stay stagnant.
So we have to know where wecan go when we can go. So

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one we're not smacking into each other, We're not at the wrong place at
the wrong time, and that stillhappens where I still make mistakes. The
guys still make mistakes like I can't. I can't even count the number of
times that you know, with ourprevious pyro rig how many times our pyrotechnician
had to press the stop button becauseI'm in the wrong place at the wrong

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time, and God forbid that thingfires off. Hey, that's it.
People don't realize when these guys arelighting this pyro off. You gotta remember
when you see a show and you'remiddle of the first section, right,
think, I think fiddlers, whoare you know, ballerina? You're on
the lower bowl and you could feelthe heat from the pyro there, right.

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Imagine what that's like being three fouror five feet away compared to the
thirty forty fifty feet that you know, not more that you are. And
it's not only yeah, it's notonly that for the singer, because what
does fire do. It burns oxygen. Yeah, right, So anytime one
of those massive pyro bursts go onon the deck, it sucks up all

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the oxygen on stage, and soyou have to time your breathing too.
Wow, And so you know,the other guys they can go ahead and
play me. I got to reallyworry about, Okay, what part of
the song is this? Where doI need to breathe to make sure that
I have enough to get through thispart? Once everything gets sucked up on
the deck, I mean, it'sand add to the fact that you're running
around and oh, you just happento be a mole in the effing air.

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Yep, it's a wild place.Why not go ahead and make it
as difficult as possible right out ofthe gate. Let's let's go ahead and
play in the mile High city whereme and Ozzie and everybody else our entire
careers are like, oh, wegotta play Denver. Okay, here we
go. Better suck it up,you know, And so yeah, yeah,

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but you know what hopefully should geteasier from you. I say about
people that run in the morning.If you want to make sure your day,
you can't get any worse. Startout running, Yeah, man,
start out in Denver. That's atough task. Especially people don't realize.
You know, we're so used toit. But the elevation, who man,
it especially compounded because you're running around. You're excited his first show it

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But it takes a toll on stage. Yeah, it takes a toll.
But you know that's how excited youto do it. I can't wait to
play with our new toys, dude, I can't wait. I miss Pyro.
We didn't get to use it duringthe Canadian run. We didn't get
to bring it with us to Europe. It was just too cost prohibitive and
and you know, the changeovers inthose festivals environments are really tricky. So

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you know, now that we're hereand it's our tour in our house and
you can play with our toys,We're going to take full advantage of it,
for sure. Can you describe afew of the toys that are are
unique to this Uh, you know, it's it's it's it. Like I
said, I don't want to giveaway too much, but it's almost,
uh this transformer ish kind of thing. It takes different looks throughout the set.

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Um, it changes into different configurationsover the course of the set.
So I'm I'm curious to see howit how it ended up getting translated from
paper to real life and seeing whatis realistic and what's not. Um.

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But we'll find out this afternoon.Man, that's gonna be a whole bunch
of Frankenstein stuff going. And itis just the first time you can stand
in front of it, you seeit in all its first time exciting for
you. Uh, well, man, just it's been amazing. Last it
kind of flew by. Um.What would you tell kind of in her

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final piece here? What would youtell artists? We have this contest that
we have some local artists that havethe ability to open up for events coming
up here in September. Um,Yeah, Trahelio Company, Um in the
Whale, a few of the localbands that have already performed. And it's

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wild too because there's there's a coupleof times you get up there and you're
like, man, that just alittle local guys just killing it, giving
us all Man, they sound great, they performed great, and we're gonna
give them a shot to open upfor event. What would you tell people
that you know or listening to usnow that might be a starving artist might

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love to go pick up the guitaras a kid, uh and rip on
it or as a band. Whatwould you tell the artists that have a
story to tell and feel like theyhave a means to tell it to be
careful what you wish for. Yeah, there's a lot of sacrifice involved.
There's a lot of commitment involved,a lot of dedication. Um, you're

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gonna miss a lot of birthdays,You're gonna miss a lot of family moments.
You're it could very well destroy yourmarriage too. You know, it's
not easy. It's not easy.Get ready to be under the microscope,
Get ready to have every movement,every word, every note, judged,
every step of the way. Butto be able to go through it and

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succeed and to conquer those fears,those inhibitions, and to master it is
one of the most gratifying things inall of human experience. If you're able
to push through it and you're ableto transcend all that stuff, and if
you're able to win over the crowdand to have your art permeate the hearts

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of thousands of others and become thesoundtrack of their lives on some level or
another, it's almost worth it.And also the fact that you're sharing so
much of your personal struggles, storiesand emotions and this record is it seems

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like that's truly the case. Soyou put a lot of yourself in this
record. So the only way todo it, you've got to be real.
People smell a fake really easily.Yeah, anything that's contrived, anything
that doesn't come from a real connectedplace within yourself, people are gonna know.
People are gonna know when it isconnected to It's very very obvious.

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I mean, we leave it upthere every night, all all of it
up there every night, and we'renever gonna stop doing that. That's awesome,
man, all right, So here'sthe deal. We have a really
unbelievable well day's gonna sign a guitarright here. We're gonna give you an
autograph, guitar and four tickets tothe show. So Dave you want to

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uh, you want to help megrab the correct person here, let's do
it, all right? So,trying to think of a last trying to
think of a call sort of alast call question that we could take from
some of you said earlier, Um, all right, how about how about

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this? When oh I got onemore question? I want to ask you,
sure, who is the person whois your nemesis? In high school
or after that, you never well, you never necessarily wanted to flex on,

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but you never thought you would accomplish, end or obtain anything close to
what you have. Was there oneperson you would say, um, you
know, I did it too inhigh school? Like one person you said
your thought maybe it was a teacheror a friend or a friend of me,

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or even an enemy. Was thereone person that discourage you from from
ever pursuing what you do now?I mean, obviously people had their druthers
when when you think about your leavingyour job, But was there ever anybody
that flat out said, don't doit, bro, don't do it.
Not a nemesis. I wouldn't,you know, painted in that negative of

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a light. I had a youknow, he's basically like an uncle of
mine. I guess you could say. Um, his name is Danny Shabbat,
and he was he was the ownerof of one of the healthcare facilities
that I was working at at thetime, and I was doing the band
on the side and you know,working at as an assistant administrator at the

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time at his healthcare facility, andyou know, he word got out that
some of the nurses and CNAs werecoming to see me play at some of
these shows, and you know,it became a thing. And he sat
me down. He's like, youknow, just to kind of give me
a good ass kicking. He's like, okay, okay, come on,

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dude. You know it's time toget your head back in the game.
You got to leave the silly bandnonsense alone and focus. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, my dad. Yeah,but I still love him to death,
and you know, I still appreciatewhat he was trying to do at
the time, but he is evensince then, you know, said to
me, though, boy was Iever read my dad just did the last

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time I saw like, you know, after like being in the business for
you know, thirty years, hejust said, you know, maybe that
radio thing really worked out for you. Sorry, I was so hard about
it. There you go, toofunny. All right, here's a question
audio guitar four packet tickets. Whatwill Sam choose from the chuck stop?

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What Sam choose from the chuck stop? If you don't know the answer that
question, then you're not getting tickets. However, if you do well,
then be a tenth collar. We'llstart with you. Good luck you guys
deserve now. It's seven nine KBPI s great stuff there, ten thousand

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fist and probably I think well outof out of a lot of the songs
you do. It is definitely oneof my favorites to be in the pit
with. And uh be down onthe floor on and uh that song.
I was telling you why that wasplaying and that first time we heard that
album, Uh you toured on thatone. What an epic show that was?
Man? That was that was awesome? Yeah, Man, they continue

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tomorrow, Baby Ballerina, this gonnabe a six show. Make sure you
grab tickets. Go to phones.Hello, GFI. I who is this?
Jay? Jay shut the front door? Yeah, Jay, you want
to go to this third tomorrow?Oh my god do I want to go?

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But I may not have the answer. Oh I hope you do,
but let's find out. So tellme what Sam would get from the truck
stop on a road trip? Nacho? No, not nacho. Now,

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that would make Sam sick. Dude, he's wanted to go within that the
answer? Bro? Helloa, who'sthis? Yeah? This is Jake.
Jake, you sound hideous from StateFarm. Yeah, we always do that.
It's weird how they changed Jake froma white dude to a black dude
all of a sudden. Nobody saidanything about it, but we always go

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you sound hideous theory, Jake?We get just because I don't know.
We think it's funny. Jake.Um, all right, Bro, you
got the answer. What would Samchoose at the truck stop before the road
trip? And I don't advice.You would go with water. Would you
like to go to the sturb tomorrow? Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah.

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Would you like an autographed guitar?Oh? Yeah, all right,
man, ud you got a fourpacket of tigers and an autograph guitar.
But look, I'm telling you rightnow, if you don't want that guitar,
I'll take it. I'll take yousure, I mean you should.
You don't sound one hundred percent convancedlike I'm I'm sure how much you want?

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Maybe we just hey, man,it was gonna be a two packet
tickets. Now it's gonna be four. You're happy with that, right,
I'll just keep the guitar. Sure, no, no, I'll playing with
man. You get both and uhman, get loud. It's gonna be
a great show. Hang on theline, we'll get some info, get
your guitar autograph and uh nice workingon your apart. Man, all right,

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thank you, all right, buddy, see you soon. And Dave,
what an honor man. What agreat couple hours. It went by
a fast man. And most,you know, most people in this crazy
world we're in right now, wouldwould never entertain the idea of coming to
rail station, especially in the morninglike the morning show. You out of
your mind? Um, but man, I'm up anyway, brother, I

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sure, I sure appreciate it andall the memories and of course all the
great shows and songs, and you'rejust epic man, And I think he's
serially so. Then you guys,go man, Dave Draymond disturbed, Go
grab device and go check out thatshow. It's great. They're kicking off
this tour here in Denver. Whata treat, what a what an unbelievable

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moment that is, and what agreat opportunity that is for all of us.
So God to the tickets, man, and we will see tomorrow Ballerina.
Dave Draymond disturbed, Thank you somuch. All Right, you guys,
that's a rat for today. Wewill see bright and early tomorrow.
So one seven nine kvpi