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Speaker 1 (00:00):
People Crown will be running. Time to go to the
(00:02):
Hamilton's Hotline. Hamilton's has two locations to serve you on
Magnolia and Ogle Tree. Maggie Wolfindale works for Fox Sports
and she loves thoroughbred racing. Her husband, Tom Morley, is
a trainer. Maggie's always on the mark annually to talk
horse racing, and she's on our hot line this morning,
the Hamilton's Hotline. Good morning, Maggie, Good morning, Yeah, how
(00:25):
are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
All good?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Little all right? That music's gonna get out of there,
just hang on, let it get out of there. It'll
it's gonna fade out of there in just a minute here.
So somebody put me along intro. So you'll be in
New York this weekend. No, you're going to Pimlico this weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Right, I am going Saturday? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Okay. So your husband has some horses that's gonna be
racing an undercard, right, all right, Maggie. Who's gonna win
the Pimlica, who's gonna win the Preakness? Just go ahead
and tell me so I can write it down. Yeah,
said you get it in stone.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Etch it in stone? Yeah, hold me to it. No,
I do like clever again. I don't know how dynamics
are going to help him, but he on figures his
make makes him one of the fastest horses in this race.
So it'll just be a matter of can he rate
can he win without getting the lead because it does
(01:25):
feel like there's some other fast horses in there.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Interesting, what's the mud going to have to do with it?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The mud is a serious factor. One would have to
to take that into consideration given, you know, given the
fact that Journalism did he run his a race on
you know, in the uh in the slat like he
did in the Kentucky Derby, I'm not sure does that
(01:53):
downgrade him a bit? So the slap could say a
major role in affecting the favorites.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Interesting, he thinks the slop effects the horse running back
into race. We had great emotion on earlier. I didn't
ask him that I should have. Do you think the
wet will hurt Journalism again? Since he ran?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
If it hurts it, I mean, look, the one horse
that beat him is out of the way, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Not a good point. Good point.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
He equaled the same number that he ran in the
San Anita Derby in the Kentucky Derby. So that's always
a good size. I mean, you have horses like the
rail Runner, for instance, a highly regarded only third time
starter for Bob Baffert, goal oriented who did win in
the spot on Kentucky Derby day as well. So yeah,
(02:39):
I think in this field, other than Sandman, an American
promise who did exit disappointing efforts in the Kentucky Derby,
I wouldn't want to use them on this wet track.
But other than them, I think everybody should be able
to handle the wet going, given their pedigree, given the
race records.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, so that's interesting. Now do you are you one
of those that like to see the triple crown changed
the grand motion of note, keep it the same as
way it's always been, as we should be. Wow to
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I know I like Grant for a reason. I agree
with him completely. You know, there there have been instances,
while there haven't been many, that trainers have opted to
skip the Preakness. I mean, I look back at gosh
it was you know last century when a horse was
it takes prospect. I can't remember anyway he was. He
(03:33):
was lured away from the Freakness by Jersey for some
massive bonus, and you know they skipped the Freakness. So
two years ago, obviously rich Strake was a major upset,
but he's skipped the Breakness as well. And Bill Mott's
not a trainer that he is inclined to run his
horses back no matter what the condition on a two
(03:56):
week turnaround. It's not something he does. It's not something
that when he had that he had success with. So
I kind of get it, and I agree with Graham.
It's not supposed to be easy.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, he said, hey, it's you know, it is what
it is, and that's the reason we don't have.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Many of them. I feel like it's an issue that
people get all up and armed about for about three
weeks and then they forget about it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
All right, I didn't mean it, rupt You're right, Maggie.
He said, we have a we have an audience of
people that don't follow horse rations because we cover the
triple Crown on the mark every year. It's five weeks,
six weeks. He says, you have an American audience, the
audience of American you better take advantage of it. There
was interesting comments. I'm not trying to you know, insert
his interview into your conversation here with me. But I
(04:38):
like that that that thought because everybody, a lot of people,
there was many people watched that Kentucky Derby on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I agree, you know, it's it gets people interested,
to say the least, and get some talking. And at
the end of the day, the day, that's what we need,
no matter if it's controversial or not. I think we
just need eyes on horse racing at this point in time.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There you go, Clever again, that's your pick. Honestly, you've
been watching Clever again? Huh?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I have. I've seen him out in Arkansas, so I
do like him. The distance there's a little bit of
a question mark, but I think he'll handle a wet track,
I think. And maybe it's fitting that he's the son
of American Pharaoh and we're at the ten year anniversary
of American Pharaoh, kind of breaking that dry silt of
(05:29):
Triple Crown winter.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Very interesting. Is there any other races that you know
about this weekend that we should look at? It might
be interesting? Has some you know that would be good?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, of course, there's a Black Eyed Susan on Friday
leading into the in that race, I like a Marsh
as well as Paris Lily. And then the race leading
into the Preakness is the Dinner Party Stakes, which I
think is a really interesting raised in which I like
(06:01):
an eight to one shot by the name of meat
Meek meek.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, that's meat all right, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So, and then even sim McGahee has one of the
favorites in here in Fort Washington who's five to one,
but I don't mind his other horse who's gone two
for two on the turf and signature.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, you've done your homework, Maggie. Are you gonna be
watching them in the in the paddock like you do
it Belmont?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I know hopefully I'm at that point having some cocktails.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You enjoy those black eyed decisions?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, they're dangerous. I mean I love you know, nothing
means said Pimlico more than hearing black eyed Susan. You
know that's my favorite cart.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So you're gonna be doing a little relaxed. You're not
be looking at the horses this time, are you.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You know I never can help myself. I will always.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh, we got some problems back here, Yeah, take care
of that child, Maggie Wolfingdale Wolfingdale's with us. She works
for Fox Sports. She's in the paddock on the Triple
Crown with the Belmont. She's always looking at those horses.
Her husbands to Fox is carrying me. They are here,
although this is the Preakness weekend, but she's on there
with us. Her husband's Tom Molder, who is a trainer
and has horses running an undercard. Tell me when you're ready, Maggie,
(07:27):
Oh we are good. All right, all right, so all right,
one more question. I wanted to ask you this horse
from there's a horse? Was it Heart of Honor? Is
that not? Is that the one from England? This running?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, Jamie Osborne for.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, what do you think about that horse?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I mean I don't like him necessarily on form because
he was beaten by admired Daytona in Dubai, and he
didn't run particularly well in the Kentucky Derby and the
UA Derby. Yeah, his last race is the u A
Derby was only beaten. No, so you know he's very
well on the dirt. But I just haven't seen that
(08:03):
form necessarily translate to our American classics. I feel like
Forever Young last year, who emphatically won the Ua Derby
and land very well in the Kentucky Derby, and continued
on that trajectory. I felt like he was the strongest
contender that we've seen, that we've ever seen. I mean,
I don't think there's been one before him, and obviously
(08:27):
this year there isn't one either, So I think it's amazing.
And Jamie Osbourne very sporting to bring him here. And
he's a very good looking horse. I'll give him that,
like he's brought the right horse, but I just don't
think he's good enough, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I think his daughter is somebody riding the horse, right,
being the jockey. Correct, Yeah, that's pretty.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Very family oriented.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Okay. So we've got journalism, Samman And was there another one?
It ran in the Derby? Am I missing anybody else?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
American promise?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh yeah, America. So three horses that ran in the derby,
there's only there's only nine and they were twenty in
the derby, and three of those are running in the preitness.
Do you think those three have a shot? I know
you said journalism, but other than journalism, you think you
think the new horses have a better shot of those three?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Uh? No, journalism definitely the new Shooters. The new shooters
are going to be the one to upset journalism.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, it's gonna be a new one. It's not gonna
be one of those others.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, I don't like Sam Man or.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
American from Okay, there you go too much? Is it
too much? You think Maggie too much on them?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Honestly, I just have a theory about horses that were
trained at Oakland coming out of there, They just they
find it really hard to recuperate and they find I
just find that they're often tired types of horses coming
out of Oakland. It's okay if they race there but
(09:56):
train somewhere else. But if they race and train their
then I just, you know, extensively like men so forced
ha had, I just find that the rest of their
campaign often is a little black laster, and therefore they
need a break.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Wow, that's some serious stuff there, Maggie, I like that.
Never even that's beyond my means of intelligence. How about
that to crush all your bachelor's out there. And Maggie
is married to trainer Tom Moorling. Yeah, and it makes
the big bugs by galloping for him. We got baby
(10:33):
in the background. We know all that, right, Maggie. Look,
thank you for your time. Maggie, you're so sweet. Can
we get you back on dereing the Belmont? Yes, of course,
all right, good deal. I know you'll be working during
that time, all right. Take care of your young one.
Enjoyed the trip to Pimlico. No black no, no drink,
so okay, black eyes, take care of Maggie. All right,
(10:57):
you got it, Maggie woofing
People Crown will be running. Time to go to the
(00:02):
Hamilton's Hotline. Hamilton's has two locations to serve you on
Magnolia and Ogle Tree. Maggie Wolfindale works for Fox Sports
and she loves thoroughbred racing. Her husband, Tom Morley, is
a trainer. Maggie's always on the mark annually to talk
horse racing, and she's on our hot line this morning,
the Hamilton's Hotline. Good morning, Maggie, Good morning, Yeah, how
(00:25):
are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
All good?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Little all right? That music's gonna get out of there,
just hang on, let it get out of there. It'll
it's gonna fade out of there in just a minute here.
So somebody put me along intro. So you'll be in
New York this weekend. No, you're going to Pimlico this weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Right, I am going Saturday? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Okay. So your husband has some horses that's gonna be
racing an undercard, right, all right, Maggie. Who's gonna win
the Pimlica, who's gonna win the Preakness? Just go ahead
and tell me so I can write it down. Yeah,
said you get it in stone.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Etch it in stone? Yeah, hold me to it. No,
I do like clever again. I don't know how dynamics
are going to help him, but he on figures his
make makes him one of the fastest horses in this race.
So it'll just be a matter of can he rate
can he win without getting the lead because it does
(01:25):
feel like there's some other fast horses in there.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Interesting, what's the mud going to have to do with it?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The mud is a serious factor. One would have to
to take that into consideration given, you know, given the
fact that Journalism did he run his a race on
you know, in the uh in the slat like he
did in the Kentucky Derby, I'm not sure does that
(01:53):
downgrade him a bit? So the slap could say a
major role in affecting the favorites.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Interesting, he thinks the slop effects the horse running back
into race. We had great emotion on earlier. I didn't
ask him that I should have. Do you think the
wet will hurt Journalism again? Since he ran?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
If it hurts it, I mean, look, the one horse
that beat him is out of the way, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Not a good point. Good point.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
He equaled the same number that he ran in the
San Anita Derby in the Kentucky Derby. So that's always
a good size. I mean, you have horses like the
rail Runner, for instance, a highly regarded only third time
starter for Bob Baffert, goal oriented who did win in
the spot on Kentucky Derby day as well. So yeah,
(02:39):
I think in this field, other than Sandman, an American
promise who did exit disappointing efforts in the Kentucky Derby,
I wouldn't want to use them on this wet track.
But other than them, I think everybody should be able
to handle the wet going, given their pedigree, given the
race records.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, so that's interesting. Now do you are you one
of those that like to see the triple crown changed
the grand motion of note, keep it the same as
way it's always been, as we should be. Wow to
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I know I like Grant for a reason. I agree
with him completely. You know, there there have been instances,
while there haven't been many, that trainers have opted to
skip the Preakness. I mean, I look back at gosh
it was you know last century when a horse was
it takes prospect. I can't remember anyway he was. He
(03:33):
was lured away from the Freakness by Jersey for some
massive bonus, and you know they skipped the Freakness. So
two years ago, obviously rich Strake was a major upset,
but he's skipped the Breakness as well. And Bill Mott's
not a trainer that he is inclined to run his
horses back no matter what the condition on a two
(03:56):
week turnaround. It's not something he does. It's not something
that when he had that he had success with. So
I kind of get it, and I agree with Graham.
It's not supposed to be easy.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, he said, hey, it's you know, it is what
it is, and that's the reason we don't have.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Many of them. I feel like it's an issue that
people get all up and armed about for about three
weeks and then they forget about it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
All right, I didn't mean it, rupt You're right, Maggie.
He said, we have a we have an audience of
people that don't follow horse rations because we cover the
triple Crown on the mark every year. It's five weeks,
six weeks. He says, you have an American audience, the
audience of American you better take advantage of it. There
was interesting comments. I'm not trying to you know, insert
his interview into your conversation here with me. But I
(04:38):
like that that that thought because everybody, a lot of people,
there was many people watched that Kentucky Derby on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I agree, you know, it's it gets people interested,
to say the least, and get some talking. And at
the end of the day, the day, that's what we need,
no matter if it's controversial or not. I think we
just need eyes on horse racing at this point in time.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There you go, Clever again, that's your pick. Honestly, you've
been watching Clever again? Huh?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I have. I've seen him out in Arkansas, so I
do like him. The distance there's a little bit of
a question mark, but I think he'll handle a wet track,
I think. And maybe it's fitting that he's the son
of American Pharaoh and we're at the ten year anniversary
of American Pharaoh, kind of breaking that dry silt of
(05:29):
Triple Crown winter.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Very interesting. Is there any other races that you know
about this weekend that we should look at? It might
be interesting? Has some you know that would be good?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, of course, there's a Black Eyed Susan on Friday
leading into the in that race, I like a Marsh
as well as Paris Lily. And then the race leading
into the Preakness is the Dinner Party Stakes, which I
think is a really interesting raised in which I like
(06:01):
an eight to one shot by the name of meat
Meek meek.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, that's meat all right, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So, and then even sim McGahee has one of the
favorites in here in Fort Washington who's five to one,
but I don't mind his other horse who's gone two
for two on the turf and signature.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, you've done your homework, Maggie. Are you gonna be
watching them in the in the paddock like you do
it Belmont?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I know hopefully I'm at that point having some cocktails.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You enjoy those black eyed decisions?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, they're dangerous. I mean I love you know, nothing
means said Pimlico more than hearing black eyed Susan. You
know that's my favorite cart.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So you're gonna be doing a little relaxed. You're not
be looking at the horses this time, are you.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You know I never can help myself. I will always.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh, we got some problems back here, Yeah, take care
of that child, Maggie Wolfingdale Wolfingdale's with us. She works
for Fox Sports. She's in the paddock on the Triple
Crown with the Belmont. She's always looking at those horses.
Her husbands to Fox is carrying me. They are here,
although this is the Preakness weekend, but she's on there
with us. Her husband's Tom Molder, who is a trainer
and has horses running an undercard. Tell me when you're ready, Maggie,
(07:27):
Oh we are good. All right, all right, so all right,
one more question. I wanted to ask you this horse
from there's a horse? Was it Heart of Honor? Is
that not? Is that the one from England? This running?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, Jamie Osborne for.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, what do you think about that horse?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I mean I don't like him necessarily on form because
he was beaten by admired Daytona in Dubai, and he
didn't run particularly well in the Kentucky Derby and the
UA Derby. Yeah, his last race is the u A
Derby was only beaten. No, so you know he's very
well on the dirt. But I just haven't seen that
(08:03):
form necessarily translate to our American classics. I feel like
Forever Young last year, who emphatically won the Ua Derby
and land very well in the Kentucky Derby, and continued
on that trajectory. I felt like he was the strongest
contender that we've seen, that we've ever seen. I mean,
I don't think there's been one before him, and obviously
(08:27):
this year there isn't one either, So I think it's amazing.
And Jamie Osbourne very sporting to bring him here. And
he's a very good looking horse. I'll give him that,
like he's brought the right horse, but I just don't
think he's good enough, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I think his daughter is somebody riding the horse, right,
being the jockey. Correct, Yeah, that's pretty.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Very family oriented.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Okay. So we've got journalism, Samman And was there another one?
It ran in the Derby? Am I missing anybody else?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
American promise?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh yeah, America. So three horses that ran in the derby,
there's only there's only nine and they were twenty in
the derby, and three of those are running in the preitness.
Do you think those three have a shot? I know
you said journalism, but other than journalism, you think you
think the new horses have a better shot of those three?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Uh? No, journalism definitely the new Shooters. The new shooters
are going to be the one to upset journalism.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, it's gonna be a new one. It's not gonna
be one of those others.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, I don't like Sam Man or.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
American from Okay, there you go too much? Is it
too much? You think Maggie too much on them?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Honestly, I just have a theory about horses that were
trained at Oakland coming out of there, They just they
find it really hard to recuperate and they find I
just find that they're often tired types of horses coming
out of Oakland. It's okay if they race there but
(09:56):
train somewhere else. But if they race and train their
then I just, you know, extensively like men so forced
ha had, I just find that the rest of their
campaign often is a little black laster, and therefore they
need a break.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Wow, that's some serious stuff there, Maggie, I like that.
Never even that's beyond my means of intelligence. How about
that to crush all your bachelor's out there. And Maggie
is married to trainer Tom Moorling. Yeah, and it makes
the big bugs by galloping for him. We got baby
(10:33):
in the background. We know all that, right, Maggie. Look,
thank you for your time. Maggie, you're so sweet. Can
we get you back on dereing the Belmont? Yes, of course,
all right, good deal. I know you'll be working during
that time, all right. Take care of your young one.
Enjoyed the trip to Pimlico. No black no, no drink,
so okay, black eyes, take care of Maggie. All right,
(10:57):
you got it, Maggie woofing
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