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January 17, 2024 48 mins
In this epsiode KT and Kayla are joined by comedian Torrei Hart to talk about her upcoming tour with Katt Williams! The ladies discuss the controversy surrounding her touring with the person her ex husband is feuding with and why she won't change her last name. Other topics include how Torrei handled such a public divorce, got out of toxic/abusive relationships, and co-parenting with Kevin Hart. Enjoy!



Torrei Hart, multi-talented Comedian, Actress, TV Personality, and Influencer has been working in the industry for over a decade. She is a true business woman and hustler. When she’s not co-parenting with Kevin Hart a very talented and devoted comedian and actress. She has performed alongside heavy-hitters like Katt Williams, Martin Lawrence, Chris Spencer and more.

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(00:00):
The Petty Ish Podcast. Welcome backto another episode of Pettyish. My name
is Katie, I'm Kayla, andwe got a special guest today. Tory
Hart is in the building. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome, welcome,

(00:21):
Welcome to iHeartRadio. Thank you.You look phenomenal, by the way,
Thank you you too. You girlsare so beautiful. You're so beautiful.
Thank you. So it's Pettyish andthe first thing that we do is
tell the pettiest thing that we've donethis week. Okay, So Kaylee,
you want to go first, Iwill go first. Give you some time
to think about it, Misstery Heart. Okay, So I, as you
know the podcast listeners, I hadjust recently gotten my sister locks or my

(00:46):
microlocks, and the woman who didit the install cost me fifteen hundred dollars
and she ended up blocking me becauseshe kept saying I was wetting my hair,
that's why my locks are coming out, and just had really really bad
customer service. She was very selfrighteous, holier than thou knew everything and
ended up blocking me because I questionedher too much. So I found a

(01:07):
new loctician this week. I gotmy first retwist after being blocked, and
she told me that there are holesin some of my locks, which is
completely not normal. She said thatmy parts are very sloppy. I have
regular sized locks in the middle ofmy head. Whoever did my install it
did? It did? And itdidn't. I see them. I see

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like now that I got a newloxician, I see what it's supposed to
look like versus what it did looklike. And yeah, so apparently this
woman does this often. And theperson I found my new loxician, she
has a lot of the other girl'sold clients, and this is apparently a
common trend. So I have myproducer mind going, and this is petty
ish. So I'm going to getthe names of those other clients and we

(01:51):
are gonna let them people know.Do not get us go fifteen hundred dollars.
Her name is at avoided because shereally played in my head, and
we're gonna we're gonna let people know. Don't give that girl fifteen Her hair
looks amazing now it was fixed,and I need to get it fixed more.

(02:12):
They need to break these apart,fix my parts. You used to
have lock, I did. Didyou have any crazy lock experience or crazy
loxicians? I didn't I did.I actually the lady who started my locks
for me name is Sabrina. She'sout here in the LA area, and
she did an amazing job. Ittook actually two days, so she did
it. But I mean it wasworth it, you know, And I

(02:34):
had no complaints. The hair wasgood, and I missed my locks,
you know what. I just gotbored. I just was like, I
wanted to wear weaves again. Iwanted to do braids because I'm a braider.
I love braids. I wanted todo you know, other styles,
and so it just and I hadput weave on top of the locks,
and that's what I heard you,I know, but it's just it's like

(02:55):
you weren't a helmet. Yeah,It's like I had a big old helmet
on my head and that was tryingto dig with the retail all that.
So I was just like, youknow what, I'm gonna just go ahead,
and don't you gotta wait till itgets to like a certain length before
it actually like falls the way thatyou want to get too. Because I
felt like it would be easy,but then there's like that awkward phase.

(03:15):
Yours looks good, though, Ithink you make me want to do it.
Yeah, I definitely feel like I'mgoing to try the weaves and the
braids and the things, but asof right now, I'm definitely a sister
lot of girl for the next leastten at least ten. Are you ever
going to go back? You thinkI thought about it? I have.
I've been really thinking about it recentlytoo, because my hair is like,
you know my hair, and Igot like Frederick Douglas hair. No,

(03:39):
no, no you don't. Youdon't know, you don't right now,
So I gotta slick down with theedge control. But it's okay, like
I like because it works good forlots. Yeah, and now I got
like this real big thick afrow,So I'm like, you know what,
I'm thinking, I might go backto it. And don't you have that
hair, Caroline too? Is?I mean it's it's I haven't been,

(04:00):
you know, manufacturing more units now, but I did Heavenly Heart hair.
Yes, yeah, you have alot. You are business moments. You
get out here, you work,you do it all. You do it
all. You know what My brainthe ways operated is if it thinks of
something, it's like I have todo it, and if I don't do
it, then I start like,it's like a build up, it's like
a clutter. Yeah. So it'slike, Okay, I gotta get gotta

(04:23):
get on it, gotta do it, gotta do it, and then conquer
it, do it. And thenI'm like okay, and then it comes
up with another idea. I lovethat. Oh my god, let's do
it. I love that. Sothe energy that we need around us all
the time, all the time,you did this. Okay. So my
Dallas Cowboys. Yes, I'm fromI know. I know because we were

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talking earlier. I am from Philly, so people automatically assume that I am
an Eagles fan. But my dadraised us to be Cowboys fans. Why
I don't know. We've never livedin Texas. But I'm a Dallas cow
What should look at me? Like? So, Dallas Cowboys. You know,
we took that l first round ofthe playoffs, and the majority of
my family, obviously we're from Philly, so they're Eagles fans, texting me

(05:08):
and my dad and my brother.That's why y'all choked, per usual,
and it was bad, so wehad to take it right right the next
day, the Eagles choked in thefirst round of the playoffs, just as
bad as the Cowboys did. SoI you know they're out too. Cowboys
cowboys and Eagles fans are both sittingon the couch right now. Wow.
So I texted all my family membersand what and what now? What y'all

(05:32):
choked? First? Girls, that'smy petty thing, that is, I
know that Eagles fans was mad.They was mad? Yeah, would you
do petty this week? Miss toyheart Petty? Let's see, I don't
really do too much petty. ButI mean I did clap back at some

(05:54):
people online. I mean, butthat's not really petty. That's just depending
yourself. I don't know a lotof people talk about a lot of people
like I don't. I don't dothe comments. I don't respond to the
haters. But you've been getting alot a lot of hate. I respond
I've been getting a lot of lovetoo. I saw that too. Yeah,
so you know, and I respondto the people that love, and
see that's the thing people like.Okay, So if I can respond to

(06:14):
the love, I'm gonna respond tothe hate. Y'all know, y'all not
just gonna be up on my platform. Okay, your nastiness and think that
it's not gonna get you know,I'm not gonna say something back to you.
What was the what was the commentthat stuck with you in your clap
back that you remember the most?This lady just assuming she knows me,
you know, she was, youknow, talking trash about you know,
me recently going on tour with catand like, how dare you? You're

(06:38):
not loyal? And you know what, people like you are just the most
ridiculous and just bowl And I'm like, lady, are you crazy? Like
loyal to who you know? Weto me, loyal to my money,
loyal to my career. Yeah,that's what I'm loyal to. You're going
after that bag? Right? Andkids? Thank you? And last time
I checked, I am a singlewoman. I'm out here. You know,

(07:00):
I'm not married. I can dowhat I want to do. And
I'm a comedian. I am acomedian, so I am taking an opportunity
of a lifetime. Who would nottake that opportunity? Amen? I would
too. But before we get intoall that, let's get into your background.
Okay, you do all of it. You're a comedian, You're an
actress. I mean, you haveso many different businesses, and you're from

(07:23):
Philly and then I'm from Philly.You were raised in Jersey. I was
raised in Jersey, right, Howdid you come to La? I came
to La years ago with with myex husband, moved out here together and
was pursuing you know, the Hollywoodlife, you know what I mean,
Like, I've been doing this sinceI was pretty much this big. I

(07:44):
was always in church place, highschool, got class clown, you know,
looking back now, it's like,heck, I really got class clown.
Like that's not a good thing toget, but it is a good
thing to get. You know,always did the arts. I always was
training, worked with a lot ofthe great coaches out here, and you
know, finally just dove into it. And so yeah, so you knew

(08:05):
young that she wanted to be acomedian. But with the age of six,
oh wow, I told my parents, well, not comedian. I
told my parents that I wanted tobe in entertainment. Okay. They had
no idea because you know, theremy mother worked for the phone company.
My father was a postal worker.So they're looking at me like, girl,
go sit down some word. Youknow, they don't know anything.
They're blue collar workers. But Itold them, I was like, I

(08:26):
will be out in Hollywood and Iwill be a star. And I told
them that at the age of sixyears old, Manifest What was the biggest
culture shock coming from Philly and thenmoving to LA and being in Hollywood with
Kevin Hart because it's different, that'sa big deal. Well, no,
because when I moved out here,he was a little ket a bastard.
So you know what I mean,he wasn't that Kevin Hardy is today.

(08:48):
You know, I met him whenhe was selling sneakers. Okay, so
you know it's a little different,and you know, I've always been a
star, so it's like, listen, he moved out here with me.
I was the one who said let'smove to Cali and go where the stars
go. It was up to him. We would have been in New York
because he was like we knew.I said, nah, I'm a star,
We're going to l A. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I love

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that. I Who are some ofyour influences growing up? Wow? Okay,
So the movie Annie is what inspiredme to want to get into show
business. I watched that movie,I mean probably four times a day because
you're musically inclaimed as well. Iam, but but just but Annie was
just I just love the rags torichest story. I love Sandy the Dog.

(09:31):
I mean Miss Hannigan, you knowthey right. So that movie influenced
me New Jack City, which knowthis is crazy how it because I literally
thought I was Keisha, so youknow you couldn't tell me I was not
Keisha. You know, I lovedme a d boy and transferred. You

(09:54):
know, years later, here Iam playing Keisha in the New Jack City
State. That's why I was like, that's crazy, that's crazy. Yes,
I did. I did. LikeI would make my family watch New
Jack City every time they knew theywas coming to that put New Jack City
on, We're about to watch themovie. So that's what it was.

(10:15):
That was another inspiration Eddie Murphy,Richard Pryor, trying to think who else
like as far as comedy wise,my ex husband also big inspiration, Cat
Williams. I've known Kat for twentyyears. You know, first met Cat
when he came to do the laughHouse in Philadelphia. That's when I first

(10:35):
was able to connect with Cat,kept the relationship. Worked with Cat on
another movie, American Bad Boy.Go check that movie out. Hey,
let's get that trend in. Wedid that years ago. And and once
again full circle here I am backwith working with Cat, and it's like,
you know, it's amazing that I'mgetting put on like the number one

(10:56):
tour right now in America comedy,that's right now. Last week that you
are going on the Dark Matter tourwith Kat Williams. Yes, and it
ruffled a lot of feathers. Oh, let's just say that. The question
what he wants to know is whyare you working with the op? Well?
Why not? And what makes hima op? I mean, you
know what I mean, Like,we're friends, Like I just said,

(11:18):
we've known each other for twenty years, and let's not think, you know,
let's not get it twisted, likehe's put me on shows before.
You know, this is not thefirst time, you know, So when
people are doing all of this,I'm like, no, this is not
the first time. So what areyou talking about? Not to mention,
I don't got no beef with Cat, but that's you know, I don't

(11:39):
have no beef with Cat. Ithink Cat's a genius. I think he
went and did that interview at ClubShayshay and now he done got comedy like
trending. It's trending everywhere it's it'strending more than music. And you know
he's got other comedians their careers arebeing revived because of his interview. He's
a genius, he's a smart man. Honestly, that that interviewent viral in

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two point five seconds. That's veryintentional. He knew what he was doing.
But does it affect you or offendyou the things that he did say
about your acts, because those weresome outlandish allegations. That's not my business.
That's your business. Like I said, that's not my business. I'm
not married to him anymore. Hehas a new wife, you know what
I mean, and so that's notmy thing. Unfortunately, we do co
parent very well, but when itcomes to that business aspect of it,

(12:24):
that's not my business. Well,a lot of people are saying it's unloyal,
especially because your last name is stillHard of course, so people feel
like, you know, you're ridingoff the coattails of his last name and
then working with his ops. That'snot a cool thing to do. What
do you say to that, Well, first of all, this is my
name. Okay, my name isTory Hart, and last time I checked,
when you get married, it legallybecomes your name, so legally,

(12:48):
by law, I am Tory Hartand so therefore it's my name. And
like Tina Turner said, I'm gonnakeep everything. Excuse me, no,
take everything, but I'm gonna keepmy name. And at the end of
the day, Kevin, they neversaid anything about me having the name.
He's never once said I don't wantyou to have the name, and he's
never said anything about it. Andeven if he did, it's my name

(13:13):
and I respect that one thousand percent. What are some of the reasons behind
wanted to keep that name. Well, because I've built a career with this
name. And like I said,you know my last name, my maiden
name was Skipper. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know
how many jokes got cracked on megrowing up being Tory Skipper. I'm sure

(13:37):
listen, Okay, you can't goto restaurantation, you know what I mean?
Skipper's cute, don't get me shoutout, yeah, shout out to
my mom and my daddy because they'vestill been married. I love y'all fifty
years, you know, but youknow I like heart better I do.
And it's it's just it is whatit is. It's my name. I

(14:00):
built a brand around my name.I was there from the beginning helping build
the brand name hard. So it'slike, why do people feel like,
oh, people change your name,change your name. No, you even
saw somewhere that you actually wrote forKevin? Is that true? Did you
help him write his jokes? Well, for sure back in the day.

(14:22):
Yes, we did, and webounced a lot of stuff off of each
other. I was amused to himas well, just like he was a
big inspiration for me. And youknow, it's just when you're around It's
just like in any setting, rightwhen you're around someone all the time,
that's just what's going to happen.You know a lot of people say we
have the same mannerisms, you know, and I'm like, we do because

(14:43):
that's this this is divine. Youknow. You we met at a theater
arts class at community college. Youknow, I've always been around comedy before
I even met Kevin. Kevin's beenfunny, I've been funny. So I
look at it like this is thedivine order of things, this is how
it was supposed to be. There'sno other way to explain how we met.
We moved out here together. Howyou know, I'm I opened up

(15:05):
for him. People don't know thatI've opened up for Kevin as well.
So you know, it's just nowit's starting to get out. It just
he just blew up before me,and now it's just my time. It's
Tory time. Why haven't you guys? Oh sorry, you can get Yeah.
So people say like he never helpedyou or put you on So I
guess that's kind of not true becauseyou did open up for him. So
he did give you certain opportunities.I mean, he did give me certain

(15:28):
opportunities, but I feel like Icould have had other opportunities as well,
you know, opening up for himwhen we were married, not outside of
the marriage, but I did openup for him when we were married.
And you know, of course,if he wants to do a tour,
we can do that. I'm opento. That's nice because you guys are
cordial. You guys are you know, great co parenting, so there's no

(15:50):
bad blood. Were he upset?Did he say anything about you joining kat
on tour? He wished me,well, okay, yeah, he wished
me well. He said, youknow, basically, I understand you're doing
it for your career. He waslike, do what you need to do
for your career. So it seemslike you, guys did a lot of
work, and just mainly you inparticular, like you had to do a
lot of I would assume self workto go through everything that you went through

(16:12):
and then be able to come andbe cordial with the person that kind of,
you know, not only hurt youpublicly, but they made it a
you know, the bit in alot of his jokes, and that was
like kind of a hurtful thing.And that's another thing people, you know,
they failed to forget. I wasthe brun of a lot of jokes.
Yeah, okay, I am ayou know one thing about me though,

(16:33):
I got some tough skin, okay, And I can take it because
I understand the business and I alsounderstand, you know what it's funny.
Like if it's funny, I'm arock with it, okay. But if
it's not funny, the crowd's goingto tell you anyway if it's not funny.
But here's the thing. So whenpeople are saying, you know,
I'm doing something or whatever, I'mlike, guys, did y'all not see
that I'm just actually going to doa job. And I'm not even doing

(16:57):
anything other than my job. Right. So a lot of people are upset
with Kat Williams because he was talkingabout other comedians and he was just right
going what is true and what's nottrue what he said? Because he said
a lot of things, you're gonnahave to ask Cat that I ain't got
nothing to do. You gotta haveCat. That's that's a question. You
gotta ask Cat. So you don'tcombind that he said all those things about

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other comedians. Not my business.Okay, yeah, not my business.
I tell you if you're being talkedabout bad or good, good press,
right, because if ain't nobody talkingabout you, what are you doing?
You're not relevant? Right? Sohe's talking for me. I feel like
that man, Like I said,he revived a lot of careers and he
enhanced a lot of careers because otherthan that, who was talking about him?

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That's true of these people in comedylike that. So you're nobody,
you're so well versed in comedy andlike obviously it's your thing. Who do
you think will win in a standup between Kevin Hart and Kat Williams versus
you think got it? Who's yourmoney on? Man? That's a tough
I'm about the public handle that y'allnot doing that to me. I'm gonna

(18:11):
win a battle with either one ofthem. I'm gonna win. Oh I
love that. Yeah. So onthis tour, you're gonna be stowing a
lot of tea. What can peopleexpect? Like, what are they gonna
see when they come see you?Oh? They got to see that first
of all, I'm funny. Okay, So they gonna know that I'm funny,
know that I am a comedian.I need people to separate me being
someone's ex wife. Understand that Iam a comedian. I've been a comedian

(18:34):
my whole life. Okay, thisis my destiny, this is my right,
this is what God set me upto do outside of acting and being
a business woman. So they're gonnasee that side that they've never seen.
They're gonna get a treat, andthey're really gonna be like, Wow,
Okay, this woman is funny andshe's very well versed with her comedy.

(18:55):
You know, you're not just gonnaget you know, some can I cuss?
Yeah? Okay, You're not justget dick and pussy jokes, right,
You're actually gonna get some well thoughtout content, well thought out material.
I'm going to actually use a lotof things that happened to me in
my life and that I've made funny. So you're gonna see me take a
lot of my pain and turn itto humor, and you know you're gonna

(19:17):
have a good time. I'm veryfun on stage. You see your fine.
I'm having so much time right now. And I feel like you.
You said that you love Ianna,you love the Rights to Riches story,
and I feel like that's kind ofeven though it's not Rugs the Riches,
your comedy is like pain to humor, and I think that that shows a
lot of the work that you putinto yourself. And I'd love to know,
like what, because you know we'regoing through things. Kayla's going through
a breakup, and you know you'vebeen through a lot of things. So

(19:41):
what were some of the healing techniquesthat you implemented in order to be able
to be so strong and make jokesabout such painful things? Well, first,
I understand life is a journey,right, So with life being a
journey, you're gonna have the goodtimes, you're gonna have the bad times.
There's the ebbs and flows that you'regoing to go through. So you
have to just when you're going throughthe day, the downside of the journey,

(20:02):
that's where the work comes in at, you know, and that's where
you're going to grow to most ofthem, you know what I mean.
So do the work. You know. I come from a very spiritual family.
My grandmother started a church. Shewas a minister. I have two
uncles that are ministers, three auntsthat are ministers. You know, so
I listen, Hey, I rememberthat. So the Father, you know,

(20:27):
God is within me, so youknow, and I was raised on
that. So you know, wheneverI had hard times, I know,
you dig deep, you pray.You know, you don't let anything affect
you, even though there's been momentsthat I did get affected. But I
knew, Okay, God, letme, why am I going through this?
First of all, let me stopbeing selfish and stop being self indulgent,

(20:48):
and take the focus off of meand put it back on you and
just worship and praise you. Becausewhen I started doing that, and then
it's like, man, I'm worriedabout this over here, Oh God,
And you start to feel the spiritmoving, and that's just what it is.
So I pray. I literally therewas one point in my life where
I was dedicating an hour a dayto God. I made it a point
to wake up nine am to tenam. I set my alarm. That

(21:11):
was prayer time. And I knowsome people are like I talked to God
all throughout the day, but no, I dedicated. It was a dedication.
And I grew so much in thosethirty days of just dedicating to God
that hour and just praising and worshiping. I mean, so many things happen
during those thirty days. Yeah,I believe it. I feel like because

(21:32):
of what I'm going through right now, I feel like I'm doing things differently.
Usually in the past, I wouldgo out and party and drink my
feelings away. And I actually sawor listening to an interview that you did
before you said that you went soberand you felt like you had to do
that, and honestly, it workslike this is the first time where I
felt like I need to actually sitin my feelings, feel it and do
things differently. So, like yousaid, you sit with God like I

(21:56):
journal. I meditate now and it'sactually I feel like it's healing me fat
then going out and you know,disguising the pain with partying and drinking and
stuff like that. So I'm doingI'm trying to do a whole different thing
this time. And I can't imagineyou, like going through it so publicly
right and also having to watch yourex move on. I think that's like

(22:17):
a lot of people's biggest fear becauseI don't know how I would recover.
How did you even man? Becauseyou can't escape it. And then on
top of that, you've had domesticrelationships like between like between Kevin breaking you
breaking up with him and then writing, so you've had like toxic relationships while
he looks like he's just living hisbest life. How do you well,
you know what it's It's so what, I'm not perfect. Here's the thing.
I'm not perfect. I don't pretendto be perfect. I have messed

(22:42):
up myself. And the thing is, you know, yes, yes,
it was very hurtful to watch thatand to see it, but in hindsight,
I looked at it like, Okay, I have to learn from it.
I can't just sit in my feelings. So what I did was I
addressed my feelings and I got right. I got over it. It takes

(23:02):
time. You got to heal.You know, nobody you know going through
a breakup I'm sure you're going throughright now where it's just like you know,
you're trying to figure out the nextmove and you you probably won't want
to see him with nobody else,Okay, but the thing is it might
happen, yeah, you know,and you have to process how you're gonna
handle it. You know, areyou gonna be respectful? Are you just
gonna be mature and grown about?Are you gonna spas out go you know,

(23:25):
crazy, go wild? No,I chose the latter. I chose
to sit with it and say,you know what, man, I'm gonna
handle this like a g and I'mgonna get through it. And that's what
I did. It was not easy. It was not easy, but I
did it. And now I'm insuch a place of glory. Yeah,
you see it like it It's likeI'm like, oh my god, you
know, I didnet went through it, been there and now it's like,

(23:48):
like I keep saying, it's Torytime, America needs me. Okay.
It's so sad because I'm watching alot of my friends relationships right other relationships
and they can't let go. It'slike the pride that won't let them detach
from their ex. How are youable to detach and also become friends with
him, because man, a lotof people can't do that and then co

(24:08):
parent at that and have it doesto be a beautiful relationship between you and
Kevin. Like that doesn't happen.Well, here's the thing. We put
our kids first. We both madethat decision when we split. The kids
come first. Even when we hadissues. Okay, listen, we both
said the kids come first. Wecame into agreement with that, and that's

(24:30):
why our kids are so amazing.Shout out Heaven and Hendrick. Man,
my kids are beautiful. God youdid that. He did a big one
with especially my daughter. Man,she's so beautiful. I'll be looking at
her like, man, you justyou stole everything. You took everything.
I tell her that all the time. But but I mean, I love

(24:52):
them. My son is just he'sgrown so handsome. So we, like
I said, we just made itfor about the children. And once we
made it about the children and notabout ourselves, that's when it works.
It made it so much easier.Yeah, because what we're gonna beat.
I mean, eventually one of themis gonna have grand you know, a
child, So we become grandparents andthen great grandparents, and so we're gonna
walk around in anger, you know, forever, just I hate you.

(25:15):
I hate you like I don't livelike that. I don't I die fun.
No, it's not fun. Andonce you process it, and of
course in the beginning, you're gonnahave those emotions because you're gonna have a
roller coaster. Right. So Ihad that roller coaster, of course I
did. Of course I hated himand then like, oh I still love
him though, you know, becauseit's a divorce, right, And then
you go into the healing process likeokay, so you're processing and it's like,

(25:37):
okay, I'm getting through this waveand it's like, okay, let
that go out, accept things forwhat they are, move on peacefully,
and understand things can only get betterbecause where else is it going to go.
So you said you did the work, and I feel like, I'm
so grateful to my mom who reallydid take the time to instill God in
us in youth. So I knowwhen I go through tough times, I

(25:59):
know where to turn. That's soimportant. But sometimes, like you said,
it's not easy. It's hard,and you go through the rough patches
before you get to that peaceful placeand find God while you were in your
rough patch. Is there anything thatyou regreted doing or saying publicly before you
were able to heal and work onyourself. No, so you feel like
you handled it the best way youcould at that. I feel like people

(26:21):
put too much pressure on being perfect, and when you try to beat this
perfect person and then something happens,it's like, okay, now what you
know or you live in with regretsbecause you're trying to be perfect for who
and what? For an image sake, you know what I mean? Like,
fuck, would these people think someof them because you do want your

(26:41):
you know, your friends and yourfamily who really got your best interests at
heart? Yes, but the generalpart, they don't know half the shit
that people go through, you know, especially in the spotlight, and then
people who aren't in the spotlight,you know, So there's a lot of
pressure. So for me, I'mnot trying to be perfect if what it
is is what it is. Imean, I've done the work. I've

(27:03):
done some things that I may notbe proud of, but I'm not going
to regret doing it because it iswhat it is. It's a part of
the journey. He never learned andand his growth exactly. Kayla and I
were talking and I know it's beenall over the news lately, and we
wanted to get your thoughts when itcomes to staying together for the sake of
the kids. Okay, so zoniqushe's been in the news lately because her

(27:25):
and her baby daddy did like aQ and A and it just sounded like
he didn't want to be with her. He said, uh, he was
basically still with her for the sakeof the kids. He's like, would
you be with me if it wasn'tfor our daughter? He said no,
He said no. He said no. He said, I feel like you
had an image image in your mindof raising Hunter in a two parent home,
so you tolerated a lot of shit, so you just stayed. I

(27:47):
wouldn't be with you neither. Sodo you feel like it's ever worse thaying
for the sake of the kids.What it sounds like to me is he
don't want to be with her andthey both need to move on separately,
but they don't for some reason,they don't want to. You know what,
Listen, relationships are complicated, andthat's their relationship. She know what

(28:11):
she gotta do, She know whatshe needs to do. He know what
he needs to do. So theyneed to do what they need to do
for the sake of their daughter.Whatever is the best interest for their daughter.
Do that. If y'all two canhear me? I need band hunter?
Izzy is? Band hunter is somethinglike that? Izzy something. Do
what y'all need to do. What'sright for your daughter, because in the

(28:33):
long run, you want to havea productive child in society, a healthy,
whole, productive child in society.And if you two aren't supposed to
be together, don't be together.Do what's right for that child. We've
all been in stayed in situations longerthan we should have. Has there ever
been a time any of your relationshipswhere you stayed in a toxic relationship?

(28:55):
And if so, do you mindtelling us like a story about it?
Well, of course, and howyou ended up getting out out of it.
You know, sometimes when when whenyou in certain relationships, there's you
never know what the bond is.Sometimes it's a trumpa bond, Sometimes it's
a sex bond, you know.Sometimes it's that you don't want to be
lonely bond, you know what Imean. So I've definitely had a relationship

(29:17):
after my divorce where you know,I stayed in it longer than I should
have, you know, thank god, oh thank god. I was able
to get out of it, youknow, and my family helped me get
out of the relationship. So howlong were you in the relationship. I
was in the relationship for three years? Yeah? Yeah, three years.

(29:42):
There's anything I learned, It's likepeople will leave when they're ready, and
you can't tell that. You cantry to help your friends and encourage them,
but when they have had enough,that's when they live. And I
think that's what it was for me, right. I think it was like
I I'll keep taking it and takingit because I love this person so much
it no matter what they do tome, Like I can change them,
I can fix them. And peoplecould see, even my parents could see,

(30:03):
Kayla, this isn't what you're supposedto be doing. And until I
finally just got to the point whereI hated the guy. You know,
it's sad that it has to getto that point. And then I was
like, Kayla, you can doso much better than this. You don't
have to live the rest of yourlife like this. How long were you
in the relationship years? Three yearsold? Yeah, how'd you get out?
You just one day. I wasjust like, I can't do it

(30:23):
anymore. And we had moved acrossthe country together. Big mistake. Shouldn't
have done that, you know whatI mean. And so it got very,
very toxic, and I just refusedto leave, and I actually did
have to get my family involved.I said, I need my family to
hold me accountable because I can't doit myself. I literally cannot. And
it's embarrassing to say, but Icould not get out of it until I

(30:45):
had to say, Mom, thisis what's going on. Dad, this
is what's happening. And they swoopedin and all my family and they were
my FAMI, work systems family.Yeah, and good for you for telling
them, because sometimes we get embarrassed. Yeah, that's you know what I
mean. We are where embarrassed tolet people know what's going on, you
know. And so shout out toyour family for doing that, because man,

(31:06):
you and you were brave to tellthem. Yeah. You know,
I feel like a lot of thethings that people people associate being in silly
relationships with being a young girl,you know, like you, I was
younger, so I did this.I was younger, so I tolerated that,
and I think that you know,we can make mistakes at any age,
and we can make bad decisions atany age. So you were mom

(31:26):
so like, what was it aboutthis person that you that you couldn't see?
Like, oh wait, this issome this is some bullshit. Well,
because first of all, I wasso attracted to his look. He
was like, it's sexy, He'sfine. Those are dangerous. Oh my
god, yes, his look.You know I like bad boys, Jesus,

(31:48):
I do. It's so bad.I think I do too. Maybe
I'm gonna take that to the toxicness. It's fine. It's never a born
moment. Okay, they want that'stoo bad. You'd be like, you
know what, I think. Ilike the good Fellas training order against that
bad boy. I'm like, oh, you're crazy. Oh this is actually
dangerous. Where are the nerds smart? Yeah? I like nerds to see,

(32:15):
that's the thing. I'm like,I like a bad nerd. I
guess a smart, smart, smartman with a little bit of street credit.
Give me a street you need toin front of me. Wait wait,
wait no, no, sorry,wait no, no, I'm joking.

(32:36):
Obviously we have the gun range busoff, but you don't not because
half joking. I have the gunrange. I love it. But now
you're in a more you know,healthy relationship. How did you get to
the point where you found somebody manthat like and the boundaries that you have
established at this point, how wereyou able to find him? You know?

(32:59):
But we still are growing, youknow, you know, it's so
it's it's still a work in progress, but we are we we know we
really love each other. We knowhow much we love each other, and
so we put the work in andit's like, no matter what, it's
like, I ain't going nowhere,he ain't going nowhere, and that's just
where we're at it. Yeah,I love it. Yeah. It that

(33:22):
means like you know it, don'tever lose hope like you can related.
I feel like it's not people think, oh, you got divorced, I'm
never going to find happiness again.It's like, no, I'm finding new
love and exciting love. Would youget married again? Oh, I don't
know, No, I don't knowif I want to. You know,
wife. Being a wife is abig responsibility. There's a lot of you

(33:45):
don't have to be though. Ifeel like people make it so you gotta
cook and you gotta clean, Like, why can't it be easy? For
eight years? Was it easy inthe beginning? Minimally our relationships supposed to
be easy or a tripping Well,when I was married the first time around,
I really I loved doing the Iloved all of that, Like,
yeah, I loved cooking, Iloved you know, taking the kids,

(34:07):
doing different things, and you know, so I enjoyed all of that.
But now I'm just so focused onmy career and just so driven and you
know, I want to get tothat next level that I don't see.
You know, I'll cook every nowand again, but I'm like, listen,
i ain't got to tell that.You know, I'm at these comedy

(34:28):
clubs. I'm slinging jokes. I'm, you know, doing my my films
with my producing partner in Atlanta,Man Robinson. Like we're we got two
films on television right now, youknow what I mean, Like Sebastian actually
three, My Bad Sebastian Turn andSuper Turn. And then we go into
production in February on Turned as Fuck, which is the third third installment to

(34:51):
the Turn franchise. Are So That'swhy I said, I'm I'm you know,
I'm out here doing that. Youknow, I'm I'm about to embark
on my personal tour outside of catWilliam Tour and that tour starts February fifth.
Yes, so I'm super excited aboutthat. And it's called no Heart
Feelings that no heart feeling to thankyou so much. So I'm excited about

(35:15):
this. I'm about to be onthe rine to be cooking period. Listen,
bro, we could door dash intouch. I am with the universefication
just literally, I'm door dashing everyday. That is well, I don't
know if cooking necessarily So if youmarried somebody who doesn't have those domestic expectations

(35:37):
of you and the stereotypical gender rolescan kind of be reversed where he might
cook and he might so would yoube open the marriage if he's like,
I don't need you to cook orclean, I just want you to be
my wife. Girl, Are youlike, yeah? Do you know I
am a rebel? I'm my Ihave my one of my personalities is rebel
t Okay, Okay, that's oneof them. Okay, then there's toy

(35:58):
the tongue, Okay, So Idon't see rebel t getting locked down in
to the tongue. I know itsounds nasty because you know, spitting that
ship. I just I don't knowwhat that means, you know, take

(36:21):
it. I love it. Ilove it, But yeah, I don't
know. Let's where, because I'mgonna come back and visit y'all. We'll
revisit them, and I love it. Sounds like you found somebody who is
willing to support your career and notdim your light. There's a lot of
men who can't handle a woman likeyou who is succeeding. You're going this

(36:42):
place, you're there, You're allover here, and some people just want
you to stay home. You know. It sounds like you found somebody who
is okay with you shining and himbeing in the background. Well, no,
he's got he's got stuff going on. Okay, cool, But you
know, like, but I'm ashine regardless, you know what I mean.
Like, I'm going to shine.So if you can't handle it,
get out. You got to getout my light because I'm not stopping it.

(37:07):
I put it on the whole before. I'll be damned if I do
it again. Not happening because you'resuch a bright light. You know your
ex husband obviously is a bright lightas well. Yeah, do you feel
like that's been a hindrance in yourdating life where it's like, oh,
you dated somebody like that, Ican't compute or I can't you know,
be in your spotlight because you're alwaysbusy and working and I just want to
lay down to watch Netflix. Soyou're intimidating me. Has that been something

(37:29):
that you come across often? No? Not thinking about it. No,
because the men that I've dated areall men that are you know, they've
done there, they're doing their thing, you know what I mean. So
and you know I've dated like andthat's another thing people be thinking, I'm
just sitting around. Oh my god, I'm in the Okay, I'm in

(37:53):
these streets, so you know,not like I'm not out here like the
street three days this week. Ilove that. Does Kevin like meet the
people that you date? Or doeshe cares about who your kids are around?

(38:17):
Or it's like, nah, it'snot his wife, word about his
wife. So every episode we doPetty Award of the Week and we will
let you choose who the winner is. We choose our pettiest thing done in
the news and we've read and youwill let us know who got the Petty
Award of the week. All right, Yeah, so I gave my petty

(38:40):
award to Kiki Palmer's baby dad whohis name is Darius apparently just so don't
know. So he went on Twitterposting once again, which is why he
made headlines, and this time heposted he reposted somebody said one of the
biggest scams ever is a whole faceis not a face, it is what
it is. Darius re shared itand said the past matters. If they're

(39:02):
able to move on and truly changetheir life, then you give them grace.
But if they still have those tendenciesor look back at their past,
you'll still have some problems. Sopretty much saying that, you know,
if you if you date somebody whowas a hoe, they're always going to
be a hoe. For women beaterstoo. I think I would I would

(39:22):
say yes, but I think Ithink that you know, that was pretty
petty. Why are you still comingat Kiki Palmer are on Twitter? It
didn't go well the first time?Would let it go it? Do I
agree that he gets Petty of theWeek. No, no, no,
we didn't give you the composition yet. But when you think about him saying
that and women being hope fe like, do you think that whole phase is

(39:43):
a thing or is it who youare? Is there even such thing as
a whole or can women be sexuallyliberated? Yeah? You know, like
what because you are free with yoursexuality or you know, does that make
you a hoe? I mean whatyou know? Because is he saying she?
So? I think he's saying thathe's applying, Yes, get confused

(40:07):
exactly the fact that he's speaking onI don't care how it strained you guys
are right now, the fact thatyou're speaking on your baby mama like that,
even throwing some shade like that.It's not cool. Your child's going
to see it. I mean,he is, just that doesn't say much
for you. If you're calling yourb m a hoe, that means you
like hoes her. Okay, That'swhat I'm saying all right now. And

(40:27):
then they never called these niggas hose. Okay? Why us women always have
to be know where the guys havingsex with you know obviously the women?
So are we both I don't understand. I don't understand. Okay, So
my petty award is gonna go tothough one and only Tory Hart because She
posted this on her Instagram story.Let's watch with the ops. That's a

(40:55):
good one. Working with the ops. You tell me I'm working with the
ops, and I guess I'm workingwith the ops. Throw your money,
you are getting money, Petty Caeddy, Patty. Your comments are crazy just

(41:17):
scrolling through them. How is thatpetty man who the opposite the cheated?
Wait? What are they saying?How is she working with the ops?
This is business and it ain't gotnothing to do with toy. That's a
good one. Uh somebody said,ain't no way her own ex ain't put
her on. But folks want todeclare she's bitter. Get your money?
Sis h another one. Let's seea lot are saying, then drop the
last name. Kevin could have openedthe gate for Toy like he did Tiffany

(41:43):
Hattish, but he didn't. Maybemaybe trying not to piss off a Nico.
But I don't give a fuck.Bunch of bunch of people right,
and they gonna have their opinions.You know, people want to say what
they want to say. You know, I don't feel like I'm being petty.
You know I didn't do that tobe petty first and throw the money
and everything, fashion, fashion,old, fishout out fashion, over keep

(42:09):
the checks coming in, thank you. You know, I'm just worried about
first of all, I'm just doingso first of all, everybody wants to
say I'm working for an So Ithought it was funny. So I said,
well, let me give them somethingto laugh at. And that's all
I go around, right. Idon't want I don't want to involve myself
and none of that. Like Isaid, I am a comedian. I

(42:31):
am doing my job. I amtaking the opportunity of a lifetime and that's
it. Let me tell my jokes, let me get my money, and
that's all I'm doing. Can yougive us a little taste of one of
your jokes that are going to beon the tour? Hmm, well already
I I kind of low key alreadywent into it with the name Chased.

(42:53):
It's gonna be some some jokes aboutme and the name. You know.
Uh, there's jokes about me notnick change in the name. Also,
you know just how I can't escapemy ex husband. He's everywhere. Like
Jennifer Anderson, she can't get awayfrom Brad pitt S everywhere everywhere and shout

(43:14):
out. That's that's what's up.Be everywhere, okay, because now I'm
about to be you about to beeverywhere? Okay, you right that that's
and that's just what it's gonna be. So you know and talk about you
know, dating, I'm like,you just have to come see it.
You gotta come see it. I'mgonna give you a full little run in

(43:37):
in the I believe I'm doing fifteento twenty on this on this show,
but let you guys, you comeout to my tour, You're gonna get
a full forty five minutes to anhour and just really see what I'm doing
because I'm doing all of this leadingup to my special social Yeah, my
comedy special. And like I said, it's not that for that, I'm

(44:00):
not being petty. I'm just alright. So then you're run to give you
a Patty Award to baby Daddy whoor yourself? Come on now he called
his baby mama, all right,all right, So now we're get into
our petty mail and sorry, howwe will love your advice on the situation

(44:20):
We've been written. Hey kayln Kaylaantoytheart. We are looking for some insight.
I used to be very confident untilI started dating. I thought I
was beautiful, smart, funny,et cetera. And uh. For a
few years, I've completely isolated myselfat home. I'm in my thirties.
I have match with hundreds of peopleon hinge and I ignore them all because
I have gone on so many firstdates and none of them progress the second

(44:43):
dates. And the crazy part isall the dates go great, we laugh,
we're vulnerable, and they act likethey can't wait to see me again.
We text for a little while andthen nothing. I feel like I
have a curse on me? Isthis something that and before you ask,
no, I didn't have sex withany of the Is this something that anybody
can relate to? How do Ikeep going? And how do I get

(45:06):
my confidence back? Oh? Girl, you need to fund somebody? Yeah
nobody. Well, I don't know, girl, get that get your groove
back? Are you kidding me?What if she gets ghosted again after giving
it up? That that will knockyou down another seven legs? Somebody else?
Oh, thank you, thank youfor writing us. No, girl,

(45:34):
I don't know. Shoot, shemight have to get a what do
they call the energy reiky? Theother day, my sister does that.
Her name is Yole, on Instagram. She Reiki pro rekyle. It was
this weekend all the bad and allthe negative energy that it was off.
Yeah, but send her to yoursister. Yeah, all right, that

(45:58):
that is good advice. Yank you. So when is your next show?
Where can we get tickets about you? So my next show, that's that's
actually a book show because I've beenpopping up all of the city just doing
pop ups and working out material.But you can My first date for the
Dark Matters tour is January twenty seventhand Charlotte, and then I'm in Orlando

(46:20):
and Tampa and then my first datefor my tour, which that is February
fifth in New York City at theWinery. Hold on y'all because my booking
agent shout out to him, Eric, shout out to my team, Eric
Williams, Seanna Randall, Lorie Muslow, Jerry Walker, Junior, KD McNair.

(46:43):
I got so many they just holdingyou. They holding me down.
So I'm sitting up here looking atthis Chris Okay. So yeah, So
February fifth, New York City CityWinery is my first date on my tour
for my dates, and then yeah, January twenty seven for cat, North
Carolina. You know you are?Are you coming to La? So I'm

(47:06):
not scheduled on that date, butI'll be in La. I actually have
a date February third at the IceHouse, but I might have to cancel
that. Yeah, sorry, Iknow, Sorry, I might because I
might be out of town. SoI will see. I'm so excited.
We are so excited. Thank youso much for this. You are a
light. You are a pleasure totalk to. You are hilarious and we

(47:29):
cannot wait to see you. Andlet me just tell you, girls,
you're beautiful like you're. You're verytalented. I love the show. Keep
doing what you do. You're you'reDo not let anybody come in between y'all
and split up, okay. Ifyou having some issues or bad moments,
make it work, okay, becausepeople will the bigger this gets, people

(47:49):
will try to come and divide andconquer. Do not allow that. Y'all.
Work it out because you have agym here and that's all I'm telling
you, Okayia, make sure youfind hello at s R Yes, oh
yes, y'all, and get myname right. It's t O r r
E I, Yes, t Or r E I. That's right.

(48:12):
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