November 9, 2025 • 12 mins
Mindy and Boots discuss an upcoming dog abuse contest!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Real quick. There's I guess the wreck on thirty six,
thirty seven on seventy one.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's back backed up right now.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Okay, we're going to have someone who's in traffic because
of that join us into three o'clock hour and we're
going to fill you in on everything that's going on
there so you can avoid that area.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
This is so upsetting, it's so disheartening, and it will
be for you too if you love animals, especially dogs,
And honestly, dog is my number one and I have
one of my oldest dogs with me in studio right now.
But I want to introduce you all to Bailey Anderson.
And Bailey you have all the information that people need
to know about what's going on, because this has gotten
(00:37):
so bad that you guys are organizing a peaceful protest
so this dog owner doesn't get his dog back from
Columbus Humane.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Set us up. What happened here?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, so thanks again for having me on Nandian Boots.
It's a great opportunity. As you all know, I am
very passionate about the animal rescue community, and I am
incredibly outraged by the whole situation, along with so many
other people. What happened is nearing the end of October.
As many people know, there was a gentleman by the
(01:10):
name of Devon Deshaun.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Don't call a gentleman stop an idiot named Devon?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes, very true, nothing gentlemen about thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay? So what's his name again?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
His name is Devon DeShawn Jones and he is from
the North London neighborhood of Columbus.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, so what happened? What do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Neighborhood camera recorded him in the evening time on October
twenty second, picking his dog Karma up by the scruff
of her neck and collar, lifting her up into the
air over his shoulders and body slamming her into the ground.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Watched the video a little bit ago.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
See, I wouldn't watch that video. I can't watch that video.
You told me about it, Bailey, and about it. He
was a was How bad was it? Boots?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It was pretty rough. It was a dog. It looked
like a smaller dog though, wasn't a very small wasn't
a pit.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It was a pit. It was a pit. And you
know I currently have four fosters. One of the moms
she's thirty five pounds, so She's very small. You know
they're different sizes, but I mean just so tiny. I
mean you could see the size of her standing next
to him, and just the raw power in which he
threw her onto the ground. It's heartbreaking. Not many people did.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Was that ever?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Did that ever come out?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Unfortunately, no, there has been no. We've only had one
court date since, you know, since his arrest and since
Karma was removed from the home, which it took almost
a week before formal charges were made and a restaurant
was made, and before Columbus Humane was able to remove
that dog. On August fifth, which was last Wednesday, he
(02:44):
did have his first court appearance and hearing, and the
judge essentially stated if he were to pay fines on time,
he would get his dog back. So this is the
reason why we're protesting. There's just something that doesn't sit
right with us to return a dog through the home
(03:05):
in which she was being abused. And there's no nice
way to put it, but our judicial system is failing
these animals.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Say he did and why he did it to the dog?
Did he explain it?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
There was no reason. I mean, all he said so
far was he entered a not guilty plea. You know,
we don't have any information on why, what was the
reason for it. What led to that is the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Dog Bailey that he has at his.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Home that we're aware of. I believe that if he
had other animals, Wholumbus Humane Society would have removed them
from the home while the investigation is active, so I
don't believe there are more dogs than the home. No
one has reported any other dogs. The neighbors haven't said
that there were other dogs, that there was just Karma.
So the other the thing that's concerning though is, you know,
(03:55):
his history is criminal history. He has quite a bit
of a rap sheet. We found him on the FBI
dot gog database in August of twenty twenty four who
he pled guilty to distributing animal abuse videos. So it's
not like this is something new for him, which is
why we're we're you know, we're organizing that protest next Friday,
(04:17):
November fourteenth, from eleven am to two pm. It'll be
right outside the Columbus Humane Society. A local advocate for
animal rights, Kelly Rankin, has put this together and it
will be a peaceful protest. We don't want any violent
words actions, anything like that. Just because this is currently
the home to over two hundred dogs who are already
(04:39):
frightened as it is. You know, we don't want to
make them feel any more unsafe.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I just can't believe the mentality of this, Boots. You
we were just talking earlier about I can't believe we're
having this conversation, but things that are going on in
the world today, I can't believe we're wanting this conversation,
that they are even thinking about giving this dog back
to this idiot.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
If you a police ride along in North London, you
will see so many abused pit bulls and I don't know,
probably dog fighting, well, yeah, they do that. And I
don't understand why there's certain cultures that lean towards pit
bulls because growing up around pit bulls, I didn't know
they were a bad dog, not all of them. Part
of my way. I said that, But when I moved
to Columbus about forty years ago, I'm like, what's wrong
(05:21):
with those Those type of dogs are like, Oh, they're
pit bulls. They're evil. I'm like, no, they're not. My
buddy had three of them growing up. The people that
own them were evil.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Not dog, bad dog, just bad o most lovable. Yes,
So what do you what are you on the air
with us? What are you asking our listeners to do?
Because you know what, if there's one thing that you
win at, whether you are on any political divide or
any part of socioeconomic platform, everybody loves animals, most people
(05:52):
and everybody will come together or most people and fight
for the right for dogs. What do you want people
to do and take a stance for?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You know, what we really want is to see people
come out in support of this protest, you know, to start.
For one, that's a great way for people to really
get involved and help Karma if that's something they're interested
in doing. The other thing is that they can go
to my Facebook profile Bailey Anderson at the top of
that page. I do also have a couple of things listed,
(06:22):
one of them being some legislator ratification changes that I
am requesting our government make in terms of making the
criminal acts of animal abuse carry you know, heavier charges,
considering most of them are misdemeanors, you know, first or
second degree carrying fines, no jail time. You know, things
like that. We really want people to, you know, to
(06:43):
get their voices heard and have our lawmakers change, you know,
change how we do things to deter these abusers and
to protect the animals.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, so we had a caller. I'm not gonna put
your mom, but Bob.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Ok yeah, Bob, as a question for you, Bailey, if
you can answer this, go ahead, Bob answer, We'll put
you on the air.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Go ahead and ask Bailey this question.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Hi, I was wondering who the judge was, if it
was Michael Holbrooker, who the judge was in this case?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You know, that was actually something I was trying to
research this morning. I haven't been able to find any
documentation stating who the judge is presiding over this case.
It's something that we're working on getting together prior to
Friday's meeting or Friday's protest, just because that is something
that we would like to do as well, is to
send out a plea to the judge in charge of
(07:34):
the case and try to reach her directly, to reach
her heart and her soul directly.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Yes, that's what first popped up, because sometimes they just
want to clear things off and don't take it seriously.
But I think more attention needs could be brought to it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, here's why we have so here's a sad part
the judges. As a judge, and yes I attack judges
every once in a while, but at the judges level,
and not everybody loves dogs and animals as the three
of us, and I understand that. But what I'm saying
is he has so I guarantee, I'm going to guess
(08:13):
it was in a criminal regular court. So the guy
before the abuse of the animal was stole to ladder? Right?
Is it that type? If you were you at the courtroom, Bailey,
were you there?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I didn't hear that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Were you in the courtroom when the judge was?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Unfortunately, I was at work that day.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, because if you go to court, if you go
to court and watch the what's in front of the judge,
he'll have five animal abuses. He'll have five this, five that,
and they're just robots now, unfortunately, And I couldn't be
a judge because I would put everybody in prison, bresser life,
especially doing that to a dog. But people don't love
dogs like we do, and they go, okay, is it
(08:51):
it's a child molester or the dog person? It's all evil,
Don't get me wrong, but there's so much bigger crime,
they tell us, which irritates me to no end that well,
a dog's not a human being, is still just an animal.
Oh my gosh, my skin cringes. But that's what they think.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Speak out for those who cannot speak.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
How do we change that?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean it's really just right now. We have
a couple of petitions active. We've we've got you know,
I'm working with OAA, which is Ohio's animal advocacy you know, Mindy,
you got me involved with them. I've worked with a
couple of local rescues too, who are very involved in
trying to change things, you know. And it's hard. It's
(09:31):
hard because you always hear be the change. But this
is an exhausting field to be in, and it's one
that none of us get paid for. We do it
just because we love animals, right, And so there's a
great group of people out there. Again, that petition, I'll
send it to you as well, Mindy, But that petition
is really going to be what helps the most because
when we do get the opportunity to speak in person
(09:53):
with these Ohio representatives, we want to be able to
share how much of the community it's truly wanting this
kind of change to take place.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, include Boots and I we'd like to help out
in that. I mean, I really mean that we have
a platform here on this radio show. We both love
love dogs, and it's time we step up and do
something about it. I will say this, I give credit
to the people who caught that act on their ring
camera or whatever video it was used, and them not
(10:23):
hiding it, you know what I mean, bring worry about those.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I am proud of that. And it is another reminder
that if you see something in your own neighborhood, if
you see a dog being neglected, starved, abused, my gosh,
stand up for them, do something about it, report it
to police. I'm glad that this person had that video
evidence and reported it and now something is being done.
(10:50):
I just pray that that idiot does never gets that
dog back, never. And I hope someone adopts this, adopts
this dog, Karma. The dog's name is Karma. I hope
Karma turns around on the guy who did this to her,
and I hope someone adopts her and shows her that
not all people are evil.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I hope, I hope she's not over the top of
fixing her, you know, be able to around children and stuff,
because if she's been abused, that's what.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Somebody who can rehab her and send her to a
farm and give her all kinds of love Bailey. If
people want more information, where can they go on this case?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
On this case, you can follow me on Facebook, Bailey Anderson.
I post updates periodically throughout the day and then there's
a few different local groups that have kept track of it.
Adopt Me, Foster Me, and Ohio has also been posting
updates as well. That's also a great page to get
involved with in terms of you know, fostering and getting
(11:48):
involved in the local community on how you can help
as well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I think Boots is looking you up on Facebook right now,
Bailey Anderson.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Bailey Anderson, b A I L E y or no
E y E y your correct b A I L
E Y.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Bailey Anderson. Hey, thank you for being a champion for people.
We need more people like you, Bailey.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Thanks so much for having me you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Once again, when's the when's the peaceful protest? It's Friday
from eleven to one Friday.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yep, it'll be from eleven am to two pm, right
outside the Columbus Humane Society. Do they know you're coming,
They know we're coming.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, make sure you tell the news channels because.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They'll be there as well.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Okay, well, Boots and I might show up too.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, we need it.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That would be all right, Bailey, thank you, Thanks guys,
have a great day, all right, Row Minion Boots on
News radio six n WTVN
Real quick. There's I guess the wreck on thirty six,
thirty seven on seventy one.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's back backed up right now.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Okay, we're going to have someone who's in traffic because
of that join us into three o'clock hour and we're
going to fill you in on everything that's going on
there so you can avoid that area.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
This is so upsetting, it's so disheartening, and it will
be for you too if you love animals, especially dogs,
And honestly, dog is my number one and I have
one of my oldest dogs with me in studio right now.
But I want to introduce you all to Bailey Anderson.
And Bailey you have all the information that people need
to know about what's going on, because this has gotten
(00:37):
so bad that you guys are organizing a peaceful protest
so this dog owner doesn't get his dog back from
Columbus Humane.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Set us up. What happened here?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, so thanks again for having me on Nandian Boots.
It's a great opportunity. As you all know, I am
very passionate about the animal rescue community, and I am
incredibly outraged by the whole situation, along with so many
other people. What happened is nearing the end of October.
As many people know, there was a gentleman by the
(01:10):
name of Devon Deshaun.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Don't call a gentleman stop an idiot named Devon?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes, very true, nothing gentlemen about thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay? So what's his name again?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
His name is Devon DeShawn Jones and he is from
the North London neighborhood of Columbus.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, so what happened? What do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Neighborhood camera recorded him in the evening time on October
twenty second, picking his dog Karma up by the scruff
of her neck and collar, lifting her up into the
air over his shoulders and body slamming her into the ground.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Watched the video a little bit ago.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
See, I wouldn't watch that video. I can't watch that video.
You told me about it, Bailey, and about it. He
was a was How bad was it? Boots?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It was pretty rough. It was a dog. It looked
like a smaller dog though, wasn't a very small wasn't
a pit.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It was a pit. It was a pit. And you
know I currently have four fosters. One of the moms
she's thirty five pounds, so She's very small. You know
they're different sizes, but I mean just so tiny. I
mean you could see the size of her standing next
to him, and just the raw power in which he
threw her onto the ground. It's heartbreaking. Not many people did.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Was that ever?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Did that ever come out?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Unfortunately, no, there has been no. We've only had one
court date since, you know, since his arrest and since
Karma was removed from the home, which it took almost
a week before formal charges were made and a restaurant
was made, and before Columbus Humane was able to remove
that dog. On August fifth, which was last Wednesday, he
(02:44):
did have his first court appearance and hearing, and the
judge essentially stated if he were to pay fines on time,
he would get his dog back. So this is the
reason why we're protesting. There's just something that doesn't sit
right with us to return a dog through the home
(03:05):
in which she was being abused. And there's no nice
way to put it, but our judicial system is failing
these animals.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Say he did and why he did it to the dog?
Did he explain it?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
There was no reason. I mean, all he said so
far was he entered a not guilty plea. You know,
we don't have any information on why, what was the
reason for it. What led to that is the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Dog Bailey that he has at his.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Home that we're aware of. I believe that if he
had other animals, Wholumbus Humane Society would have removed them
from the home while the investigation is active, so I
don't believe there are more dogs than the home. No
one has reported any other dogs. The neighbors haven't said
that there were other dogs, that there was just Karma.
So the other the thing that's concerning though is, you know,
(03:55):
his history is criminal history. He has quite a bit
of a rap sheet. We found him on the FBI
dot gog database in August of twenty twenty four who
he pled guilty to distributing animal abuse videos. So it's
not like this is something new for him, which is
why we're we're you know, we're organizing that protest next Friday,
(04:17):
November fourteenth, from eleven am to two pm. It'll be
right outside the Columbus Humane Society. A local advocate for
animal rights, Kelly Rankin, has put this together and it
will be a peaceful protest. We don't want any violent
words actions, anything like that. Just because this is currently
the home to over two hundred dogs who are already
(04:39):
frightened as it is. You know, we don't want to
make them feel any more unsafe.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I just can't believe the mentality of this, Boots. You
we were just talking earlier about I can't believe we're
having this conversation, but things that are going on in
the world today, I can't believe we're wanting this conversation,
that they are even thinking about giving this dog back
to this idiot.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
If you a police ride along in North London, you
will see so many abused pit bulls and I don't know,
probably dog fighting, well, yeah, they do that. And I
don't understand why there's certain cultures that lean towards pit
bulls because growing up around pit bulls, I didn't know
they were a bad dog, not all of them. Part
of my way. I said that, But when I moved
to Columbus about forty years ago, I'm like, what's wrong
(05:21):
with those Those type of dogs are like, Oh, they're
pit bulls. They're evil. I'm like, no, they're not. My
buddy had three of them growing up. The people that
own them were evil.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Not dog, bad dog, just bad o most lovable. Yes,
So what do you what are you on the air
with us? What are you asking our listeners to do?
Because you know what, if there's one thing that you
win at, whether you are on any political divide or
any part of socioeconomic platform, everybody loves animals, most people
(05:52):
and everybody will come together or most people and fight
for the right for dogs. What do you want people
to do and take a stance for?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You know, what we really want is to see people
come out in support of this protest, you know, to start.
For one, that's a great way for people to really
get involved and help Karma if that's something they're interested
in doing. The other thing is that they can go
to my Facebook profile Bailey Anderson at the top of
that page. I do also have a couple of things listed,
(06:22):
one of them being some legislator ratification changes that I
am requesting our government make in terms of making the
criminal acts of animal abuse carry you know, heavier charges,
considering most of them are misdemeanors, you know, first or
second degree carrying fines, no jail time. You know, things
like that. We really want people to, you know, to
(06:43):
get their voices heard and have our lawmakers change, you know,
change how we do things to deter these abusers and
to protect the animals.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, so we had a caller. I'm not gonna put
your mom, but Bob.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Ok yeah, Bob, as a question for you, Bailey, if
you can answer this, go ahead, Bob answer, We'll put
you on the air.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Go ahead and ask Bailey this question.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Hi, I was wondering who the judge was, if it
was Michael Holbrooker, who the judge was in this case?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You know, that was actually something I was trying to
research this morning. I haven't been able to find any
documentation stating who the judge is presiding over this case.
It's something that we're working on getting together prior to
Friday's meeting or Friday's protest, just because that is something
that we would like to do as well, is to
send out a plea to the judge in charge of
(07:34):
the case and try to reach her directly, to reach
her heart and her soul directly.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Yes, that's what first popped up, because sometimes they just
want to clear things off and don't take it seriously.
But I think more attention needs could be brought to it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, here's why we have so here's a sad part
the judges. As a judge, and yes I attack judges
every once in a while, but at the judges level,
and not everybody loves dogs and animals as the three
of us, and I understand that. But what I'm saying
is he has so I guarantee, I'm going to guess
(08:13):
it was in a criminal regular court. So the guy
before the abuse of the animal was stole to ladder? Right?
Is it that type? If you were you at the courtroom, Bailey,
were you there?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I didn't hear that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Were you in the courtroom when the judge was?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Unfortunately, I was at work that day.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, because if you go to court, if you go
to court and watch the what's in front of the judge,
he'll have five animal abuses. He'll have five this, five that,
and they're just robots now, unfortunately, And I couldn't be
a judge because I would put everybody in prison, bresser life,
especially doing that to a dog. But people don't love
dogs like we do, and they go, okay, is it
(08:51):
it's a child molester or the dog person? It's all evil,
Don't get me wrong, but there's so much bigger crime,
they tell us, which irritates me to no end that well,
a dog's not a human being, is still just an animal.
Oh my gosh, my skin cringes. But that's what they think.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Speak out for those who cannot speak.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
How do we change that?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean it's really just right now. We have
a couple of petitions active. We've we've got you know,
I'm working with OAA, which is Ohio's animal advocacy you know, Mindy,
you got me involved with them. I've worked with a
couple of local rescues too, who are very involved in
trying to change things, you know. And it's hard. It's
(09:31):
hard because you always hear be the change. But this
is an exhausting field to be in, and it's one
that none of us get paid for. We do it
just because we love animals, right, And so there's a
great group of people out there. Again, that petition, I'll
send it to you as well, Mindy, But that petition
is really going to be what helps the most because
when we do get the opportunity to speak in person
(09:53):
with these Ohio representatives, we want to be able to
share how much of the community it's truly wanting this
kind of change to take place.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, include Boots and I we'd like to help out
in that. I mean, I really mean that we have
a platform here on this radio show. We both love
love dogs, and it's time we step up and do
something about it. I will say this, I give credit
to the people who caught that act on their ring
camera or whatever video it was used, and them not
(10:23):
hiding it, you know what I mean, bring worry about those.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I am proud of that. And it is another reminder
that if you see something in your own neighborhood, if
you see a dog being neglected, starved, abused, my gosh,
stand up for them, do something about it, report it
to police. I'm glad that this person had that video
evidence and reported it and now something is being done.
(10:50):
I just pray that that idiot does never gets that
dog back, never. And I hope someone adopts this, adopts
this dog, Karma. The dog's name is Karma. I hope
Karma turns around on the guy who did this to her,
and I hope someone adopts her and shows her that
not all people are evil.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I hope, I hope she's not over the top of
fixing her, you know, be able to around children and stuff,
because if she's been abused, that's what.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Somebody who can rehab her and send her to a
farm and give her all kinds of love Bailey. If
people want more information, where can they go on this case?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
On this case, you can follow me on Facebook, Bailey Anderson.
I post updates periodically throughout the day and then there's
a few different local groups that have kept track of it.
Adopt Me, Foster Me, and Ohio has also been posting
updates as well. That's also a great page to get
involved with in terms of you know, fostering and getting
(11:48):
involved in the local community on how you can help
as well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I think Boots is looking you up on Facebook right now,
Bailey Anderson.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Bailey Anderson, b A I L E y or no
E y E y your correct b A I L
E Y.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Bailey Anderson. Hey, thank you for being a champion for people.
We need more people like you, Bailey.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Thanks so much for having me you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Once again, when's the when's the peaceful protest? It's Friday
from eleven to one Friday.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yep, it'll be from eleven am to two pm, right
outside the Columbus Humane Society. Do they know you're coming,
They know we're coming.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, make sure you tell the news channels because.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They'll be there as well.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Okay, well, Boots and I might show up too.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, we need it.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That would be all right, Bailey, thank you, Thanks guys,
have a great day, all right, Row Minion Boots on
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