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June 1, 2025 14 mins
Mindy and Boots speak with Brian Steel about Ohio police.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have been ringing NonStop for the birthday boy. Boots will
be fifty seven at tomorrow, so this is his birthday Eve.
We're celebrating it a little bit early. So last week
on the show, we talked to Brian Steele, the president
of the FOP, one of the chapters, and Brian, you
did such a great job on the air, and I've
seen you on TV throughout the week. I'm like, you

(00:21):
do such an outstanding job handling all these interviews. And
number one, you can tell how passionate you are about
the police force and your message comes out loud and
proud and very strong. So even though we talked to
you last week, after everything that's happened here in Ohio
and really central Ohio this past week, I thought, Boots,

(00:43):
get Brian to call us back up or get them
back on the show, because what a week it has been.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Brian, Oh, it's been an insane week. And you know
what I think. You know, I'm a little tired, a
little emotionally mentally exhausted, and then I think about the
officer on the street, and then I don't feel so
bad about myself and my cake office job. Our officers there,
they're out there every day and they're continuing to provide
a service and I'll always applaud them.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, so what do you say to people that, because
you're brually honest, which that's what we love about, you
don't ever change and I know you won't. But how
about the critics though? Do you have some people just
coming out I can't believe you said that. I get
that all the time. I can't imagine your level what
you get.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know, I get criticized on social media and it's
usually by somebody with a fake name account, and usually
in their profile it'll say a cab or I hate
the police, and I don't know I people in the
community walk up to me. Nine to ten times it's
someone walking up to me over along the times it's
a citizen of color, and they're saying, thank you for

(01:45):
saying what we all think. And that's all I'm doing.
I'm just telling you what the officers think a majority
of the community thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
All right, we need to back it up a little bit.
Last week we talked about different things, but one of
the issues we talked about was the Hamilton County Sheriff
Depanie who was deliberately mowed over and killed from a
motorist who was upset with the law. And then just
this past week you had recently the two Mifflin Township
police officers who are at a traffic stop, both shot.

(02:14):
They do survive. And then you have the deputy in
Morrow County who was responding to a domestic situation who
was fatally shot. What a week it's been. Why is
this all happening so much right now?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
So this is just a bigger problem with society. We
don't respect the teacher anymore, the police officer, you know,
the elderly lady on the street, and of courtunate society.
You know, they'll let her mail pile up or snow
in a driveway, and not many people even think the
power driveway anymore. It's just the society we're living in.
But I think it's changing. I think this next generation

(02:49):
of kids are completely different. My eighteen year old thinks
a lot different than my thirty two year old brother,
and not the eithers right or wrong. I just see
a change. I think this next generation is sick of
it just as much as I'm sick of what's going on.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, I kind of disagree with you on one thing.
He said, neither way is right or wrong. I disagree.
I think it is wrong to disrespect your teachers. I
think it is wrong to disrespect your police officers. I
think it is wrong that you disrespect your parents or grandparents.
So if there is someone who believes that, now they're wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Brian, Yeah, no, I agree with you. I mean my brother,
My brother is respectful and all those things. Is my
brother as different at thirty two? His generation has a
little bit different thoughts in my eighteen year old.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
But he's certainly all that he's on a police officer,
is he?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, he is not. He's the furthest thing from He's
got his own talent. But I guess the point is
he's not much. Some of that generation is not as
much into service as I think this next generation coming up.
My generation was all about service post nine to eleven,
there was a calling. So I'm just seeing it again.
And these kids that are taking this job now, my

(03:57):
hat's off to them. They have everything stacked against them
and they're joining the police and fire department.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah. I don't know how when we were kids, you know,
dear friend of mine and he's a police with retired
police officer, but It's funny how when we were kids,
there was four or five guys in my class that
want to be police officers. I bet if you win
to the schools ten years ago, there was on one kid,
I was the only police officer. Because of the way
the media has attacked you, guys and girls.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Again, we're doing better. We're doing better than we were
five years ago. At recruiting. Immediately after twenty twenty, it
was impossible. We still have a long way ago. Five
years ago, I predicted it would take ten years to
overcome this, and we've had these ebbs and flows of society,
and I think another five years will come back, at
least I'm hoping.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So when you say that and you look at the
change in the administration at the White House and our
whole government, and you know President Truff is a big
supporter of law enforcement, it does start at the top.
Do you think with him now getting a second term,
this will help your side? Uh?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It does. At least you know, federally we won't have
to worry about as much like the frivolous road investigations
from DJ the targeting of police. I think he's going
to make most of that go away. If an officer
does commit and misconduct and goes outside of scope of
his duties, I fully expect the DJ to step in,
but we were just seeing an over correction under the
last administration, speaking of which I will see him Thursday

(05:23):
at four o'clock. I have a meeting in the White House,
nice of my peers. So I just walked a couple
of days ago. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
You're that is awesome?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Congrats?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, tell you was that? I no, I think that's
least his worries. But so so let me ask you
a question. This Mifflin township shooting. From my understanding, the
officer had his taser out and that bad guy, garbage guy,
took advantage. And are we safe to say that the
judges and the city administrators and all these people will

(05:54):
get behind the blue again? Because if in the old days,
the minute that perpetrator would have pulled that gun, he
have been peppered and dead. But because he's of color,
does that officer approach it different? Because he knows if
he does his job and doesn't get shot, that he's
going to go to prison.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So, especially in this county, it's on everybody's mind, every
officer's mind, and that's because four officers who were maliciously
and politically prosecuted for murder. I will never tell your officers,
don't make mistake. I would just tell you none of
the four who would charge a murder are murderers. Anything. Further,
the officer used the taser because they're trying to apprehend someone,

(06:31):
and our officers will use the least the less the
use of force is possible. We don't go straight to
a firearm. The officers trying to use a firearm to
our a taser to effect and arrest, and the individual
had a gun and then shot him.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Sad that guy won't Probably he'll be crippled the rest
of his life because of the some scumbag. I'll say,
you don't say that.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Ask so you're talking about Daveyante Dixon and it does
say this, Okay, he had pass convictions in the law burglary, kidnapping,
domestic violence, aggravated menacing, unlawful possession of a dangerous ordinance,
and having weapons under disability. That's according to court records.
Now this was before the last instance happened, but he

(07:12):
says now that he's facing another serious charge, he could
be looking at prison time if convicted Now.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean, do you think that which guy was that?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, that's Deviantay Dixon. I know things have changed now.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, he's dead. Now, he's convicted in a different world,
worse than he can do here.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
But this was put out before that recent you know,
update to this situation. But my point is, do you
think overall our court system needs to be harsher on
these criminals who have been in trouble with the law
instead of releasing them Barry right back out on the
streets again.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It does, And this is going to spark a bigger
conversation because, first of all, this is the first time
we had this conversation about something similar. It's deja vu
groundhog Day over here. Sometimes I feel like the prosecutors
office put out a statement justifying why he had such
a lenient sentence, and it talked about his age, the
severity of the crime, the fact that he comes from

(08:05):
a polished neighborhood. Well, here's what's crazy. This individual is
committing crimes and in a polished neighborhood. So when they
say black lives matter, which I agree, what black lives
the person of color of domestic he committed domestic violence
against Did that life matter? The black person whose house
he robbed at gunpoint? Did they matter? How about the

(08:27):
police officers who received gunfire from him during his last stand?
Did those black lives matter? I feel like just the
irony of the whole thing is ridiculous. He committed a crime,
he's a danger, has to be removed from the streets,
which he was. Good news. He will never commit another
crime again. I could assure you that.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So there was a SoundBite that we ran and it
talked about training, how training needs to change with police departments.
I want your opinion on that, but we have to
take a break and then ask you about it.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay, more with the FOV president. We get back. This
is rob Mini Boots on New Radio six ten to
be TV.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
What about one Boots Boot was about ready to leave
the studio. We're about we're talking to Joe Schmid's if
people try to planning is coming up in the next hour.
But we have Brian Steel, president of FOP, on the
line of us talking about, my gosh, those poor families
of law enforcement officers here in Ohio, the devastation that
they've had to face the last week or two. And
I was listening to an interview Brian and I forget

(09:29):
exactly who it was with, but it was basically talking
about training of police officers. I think it was continuing
professional Training CPT and how this should be able to
help save lives of officers and civilians because it can
kind of train the officers to de escalate a problem.
But I don't think in any of these cases the

(09:49):
officers could have done anything.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Differently to you, the officer marri County tried to de
escalate and he was killed. And I'm not going to
tee he over de escalated because I don't know the
fact that the case. But me pointing a gun at
an arm felon and saying get on the ground now,
that is de escalating. I'm showing command presence, I'm giving
loud verbal commands. You de escalate when you can. But

(10:12):
sometimes the reality of this job is you do have
to pull the trigger. That does not happen. News flash
for some people don't know, this whole world is not
puppies and pound cakes. While the majority of times we
could easily take people into custody, sometimes people do get
shot and that's just the reality of it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, you know, the last time I pulled a gun
on an officer. Oh wait, I'm never because my dad
raised me better, my family, my personal beliefs in life.
I've never, ever, ever who does that. And they have
to know the minute they raise it. Do they want
a lottery? Maybe if a cop shoots them, their baby
mam is now a millionaire because they screwed up. Well.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I believe this guy in Morrow County who was on
the porch said to the officer, I'll shoot you, yeah,
and that he didn't basically care if he lived or died.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
The guy hard, I say, the guy's wife or whatever
it was. I don't know does that makes sense that?
I mean, where does this come from. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's a it's a death wish to put a gun
on a cop or you're going to prison for the
rest of your life wish.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
When people always ask me what makes a cop so special?
I said, nothing makes them special. The cop represents a society,
and if you're going to attack an officer in society,
you'll pull a gun on anybody. If you're going to
punch a cop in a face, you'll have no problem
punching a nun in the face. These people are out
of their mind.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Talk a little bit about the brotherhood. The funeral is
going to come up of this tomorrow County Sheriff's Devity,
and you will have and see. And I remember because
I live in Westerville, and I remember when the two
officers were killed there and you had officers coming beyond
Ohio to all pay their respects. But it is such
a strong brotherhood when something like this happens. I'm going

(11:53):
to say more than most other professions. Why is that.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
We rely on each other On the sho street, you
rely on your backup. I mean, we're just we're strong
fraternal organization. An officer takes an oath. I'm a US
Marine and I'm a police officer. I took the same
oath as an officer that I did as a marine.
UH officers one hundred percent serving their country. Our forefathers
set up policing where we have no national police force.

(12:20):
So the officer in More County is also serving America.
The officer in California is serving America. And we just
we bond together because we know how quick that this
can end. And I think it's probably because we've seen
so much death as officers. We know how precious life is,
and we rally around each other's and their families.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
We have a minute left. What do you want to
say to everybody listening to maybe hope that this won't
happen again this coming week or in the near future.
What do you want our listeners to know more than anything?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So there is no promises, and I don't want to
set some false reality here at what I tell my
members is, I can't promise what happens to you. I
could just promise that I'll be with you every step
it away. I don't want I don't want our community
to try to make false promise the officers. I just
want our community to pledge that they will support their
officers through thick and thin, because they're worth it. At

(13:14):
the end of the day, they are worth it, and
that's why we do this job.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well. I guarantee there's two people that think the world
to you and appreciate everything you do for our officers,
And thank you, and thanks for not putting up with
the media, and thanks for putting people in their place
in a professional manner. And hats off to you, brother.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Sweet talk them or headlock them.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
All right, all right?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Be thinking of you this upcoming week with the funeral
services and the memorial services as well. It's a it's
a hard time and our hearts do go out to you.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
We'll have you on next Saturday. Brian's going to be
a new segment on Auto Smarts every week for Tattletale.
We support law enforcement. Let's give a tip of the week,
so we're gonna keep it going with him. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's a good show, Brian, but not as good as this.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, close, close, I love it. God bless you all right,
God bless you too. Brother. This is our O Indian
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