April 6, 2022 • 53 mins
Leah is joined by comedian Erik Griffin as they dive into a few crimes not commanding the public's attention such as: Leah's dating life, Leah's botched spray tan and Leah’s somewhat “questionable“ decision making.Then it's on to the hot(ter) topics: a Colorado law that allows children to play outside based on maturity, the 'Will Smith effect' and the 'How to Murder Your Husband' author that's on trial for, well...you can guess the rest.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime.
I'm your host le Lamar, and I have with me
today my friend sometimes Dmitri. Hello Dmitri. I want it
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clear that you said my friend sometimes have the title,
not my sometimes friends. So at least we got that
out of the the way. That's official. Well, when you think
about it that way, I mean, I guess you are
sometimes my friends. Oh, I appreciate that too. I'll take it.
Hello and you guys. Today we're going to be discussing
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a lot of hot topics. You already know how hot
they are. One is and it's weird for me to
say hot before I read this one, but Colorado passing
a law about children playing outside alone based on maturity level.
L O L. Sony and Netflix halting Will Smith projects
yea A, an author of How to Murder Your Husband,
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goes to trial for allegedly killing her husband, and then,
of course the case that everyone's talking about, the Sacramento shooting,
and joining us today, I have with me one of
my favorite human beings. He's a stand up comedian. You
know him from work on Holics, from I'm Dying up here,
Mike and Dave need wedding dates from Riffin with Griffin.
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He's a star, he's my friend, He's hilarious. Eric Griffin
go on, I'm going to his wedding for sure. Confirmed?
Oh is it? I think I think it is. I
went on a date with his fiance last night. And think,
by the way, Eric, thanks for dinner. Yeah, that's how
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you get into invited to a wedding. You go out
with the with the significant other alone when you get it.
I just had to get them in a a in
a in a group chat and just know Jewish girls unite,
and then now they were like besties. Yeah. And then
we face timed him and Eric was like, have my
back and I was like, sorry, I met Rachel and
now I got Rachel's back. So by Eric. Also, before
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we talk about me and Eric for a second, I
just want to address a new Hollywood crime that's come out.
It's called my spray tan. Yeah, okay, so if you
can't see it, uh, Leah has those your finger There
will be a clip of this. Would you say, are
those your fingerprints? Yes, you tanned with somebody. Here's the
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do you guys think I did it? I mean called
bronze handed. Yeah, I have your first time doing it.
Um no, this is the first time I had someone
else do it for me. And let me say mistake.
Letting someone else see my naked body without receiving a
compliment was so odd. We didn't even have sex. It
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was like what am I paying for? Anyway? Um, welcome
back to Okay, Eric, Are you so glad you agreed
to do this? Oh my god, this is early in
the morning to even think about your pale, pink naked body.
And and the best part, let me just tell you this.
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When I was drying myself off after I looked in
the mirror and I was like, damn, I look so good.
And I looked at myself in the backside and I
bent over and when you like, my butt cheeks spread apart,
just like white down the cray Like, I can't have
sex with anyone. This is embarrassing. I don't even know
what to deal with this, Like I have a white crack.
Good morning. So this is what we do here, We
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go through crimes and connect dots. So you were out
with Eric's fiance last night and somebody gave you a
naked spray tan. This was this all on the same yes,
And then I woke up a loan officer. Okay, so, um, Eric,
before we get into the crime, the people want to
know how we know each other. Um, what do you mean?
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We can do comedy, but not everyone knows that. I
opened on the road for Eric. We've gone to many
a city together. Um. I torture Eric with my guy issues,
and we spend most of our meals discussing all the
problems that I have. Crack. Well, this is why, don't
worry Rachel. Rachel came home and was like all she
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did was talking about her ex. Yeah, Lee is one
of those man just you have to hear about her
terrible choice in man anytime you go out with her. Well,
what else am I gonna talk about my career? Which
that or your apparently that or your butt? Crack? So
thank you? Yeah, I mean so really we've so anyway, Um, Eric, Eric,
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people want to know what made you want to be
a comedian. This is what we're gonna talk about. What
we just have to introduce you to the world. Nobody cares.
Let's get to the crimes. You know what I mean?
They you know what I mean, Come on, let's here
for it. They don't need a weird bio about me.
I was funny. I became a comic. Here we are
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your god. This is gonna be a great episode. So,
by the way, this is what he does on stage two.
He's like, I got a bunch of setups and some punchlines.
All right, thanks for coming everybody. Thanks set up, set up, laugh, laugh, laugh,
where's my check? I love? Rachel told me last night.
I mean, you've told me a version of this, but
I heard it from Rachel's mouth last night about how
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you guys met h the laughs of stuff. I mean,
it's all the same, yeah, but it was. It was funny.
She was like on a date and brought him to
the comedy store. Yeah, well she told me that anyway. No,
she went to the improv like yeah, yeah. But as
I was talking to her, she was like, I want
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to come to the show because I want to come
to your show. Then she's like, well, I'm kind of
I'm already going to be with someone, you know, who's
gonna buy my drinks. This is exactly how she said it,
you know. And I was like, I'll get you in.
It's fine. So then I see her in the crowd.
I'm doing my jokes and I had I have particular
jokes perfect for this situation. So I have jokes about
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like I'm not going to be your friend, and that
this poor idiot is sitting behind her, you know, you know,
like just an idiot, you know what I mean, Like
I'm clear, you know. And then but then I didn't
wait to say hi to her after the show, and
she was like you didn't wait? Why could you didn't
say hi to me? I was like, you're on a date,
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you know what I mean, Like, what do you I'm
not gonna say. I don't care, you know what I mean?
And then I went and then she invited me to
another place, Delilah's, where she was on another date again,
but she was but she was mad at the guy
because she was watching him sing. He was a singer
and he invited a bunch of girls and her to
watch him sing. So she got mad and was like, well,
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I'm in inviting somebody over, you know. So I came
and the guy just happened to be a fan of me.
He was like, oh, wow, sit here at our table,
and I was like, oh, that's great, and then I
took her out. We went out and we went talking,
and then the next thing we started hanging out and
the next thing you know, we're dating and then now
years later we're engaged. So I gotta pull Rachel and
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somehow what does that even mean? What does that mean
to you? Pull a Rachel? Do you have to pay
for everything? Okay? Well, hey yes, Eric, can I get
a credit card? This is the weird time for publicly
would be better than privately? And then okay, alright, so
just bring dates to places where the guy I actually
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like might be. Yeah, you'd be surprised how that of effects.
It sparks the it's spark the competition in a man.
You're also pathetic. Well, it sparks competition with with a man,
except for you, because you were like, I'm not sticking
around and say hi, screw that. But then that made
her be like, you know, now I flipped the script,
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that's what. Yeah, you flipped in and she was like, hey,
why don't you come to this place where my other boyfriend? Exactly?
All right, a man? So I stole her from two men?
How about that? When when two oh, Eric, watching the
men laugh at this is very discomforting. Discomforting. It's too
early to do anything. All right, let's get into the
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hot topics. Thanks for sharing your love life with us, Eric,
because mine it's not fun to listen to. It is
not trust everyone's cool case right now? It was d
O A cool. It's actually open it It's actually an
open and shut case. The guys are just gone, I think, yeah,
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if they're just like who murdered Lee? Is love life?
Leah did it's self inflicting dead? All right, you guys,
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let's hop into these hot topics. The first one is
Colorado passes law allowing children to play outside alone based
on maturity level. Okay. A Colorado governor signed a bill
into law on Wednesday allowing children to play outside independently
without it being labeled abuse or neglect. The state's previous
law caused as spike and complaints towards parents who are
accused of neglect whenever their children were seen playing outside
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or walking to school alone. Two one thousand calls to
the state's child abuse hotline in one and only thirteen
thousand calls were actually accurate. The bill states that a
child is not neglected when allowed to participate in certain
independent activities that are reasonable and prudent parent, guardian or
legal custodian would consider safe. Given the child's maturity, condition
or abilities. Uh yeah, what this makes a perfect sense
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to me. I used to walk to you. So a
kid can't walk to school, they can't ride their bike
to school without their parents like that? What what kind
of nonsense is this? This is some woke policing bullshit. Yeah,
this is this is what the problem is is they
need to like, the law should be if you call
the police unwarrantedly, you should be fined. That's the law
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they need to put into If you're a Karen looking
outside and you see a kid and you're like, oh
my god, I see a child by themselves, you should
be fined. That's what should happen. They should be a
fifty dollar fine every time you call the cops stupidly.
I used to walk to school by myself. I used
to go to the the park by myself. Yeah, what are
we talking about? How I turned out? I'm just fine.
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Kids can't. Kids can't play in the yard, they can't
Like what are you what are we talking about right now?
I mean living living in fear? Just it sounds really stupid.
I think that the law that, like I said, the
law that should go into a place right now is
if you call the cops unjustly or uh for a
ridiculous reason, you should be fined. Yeah, I feel bad.
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Thirteen thousand of them were accurate, but you know, so
it's nice that whatever situation that was brought attention to it.
But that's out of two thousand. That's I agree, that's
just people like seeing something and calling it. But also
it's like based on the maturity level, that's not going
to fix it, right, because if I say my kids
old enough to walk to school alone, it's not like
I'm not going to stop by the neighbors and be like,
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just so you know, I have okay, this is they're
mature enough. And also people's gauge of how mature people
are it's always off anyway, So yeah, that's always like right,
it's and it's also like do you just put a
label on their backpack like mature a fright? You know.
That's like that's like when I was eighteen and I
remember all these like much older men and would be like,
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you're so wise beyond your years. It's like, no, I'm eighteen,
just so you're aware. I I'm definitely just turned eighteen.
That's like the that's the predator tagline well also Dmitri
as the only parent of the three of us. How
do you feel about this? I mean, I think, like
I said, I appreciate people somewhat looking out, but I
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think people are too quick to judge and too quick
to like raise a red flag and try and get
parents in trouble. Like kids, we did a lot of
ship when we're young, Like I didn't get now I
bring my kids, you know, driving to practice. I used
to go home to an empty house, get my baseball
met and go to baseball practice, like like there's stuff
that goes on. But I was I was a singer.
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My mom was a single parent. I was an only child,
you know what I mean. I had to go do
I had to do stuff on my own, you know.
And and how about and how about just look out
for the kids instead of calling you're looking out, you
see something funky that you come out there. It takes
a village, they say, you know what I mean. So
now the village there's no village anymore. It's just Karen's like,
you know, being like, you know, thinking they're doing something,
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you know what I mean. It's like, why aren't we
calling in the white vans? Like why are we Why
are we calling in the children? You know, it's like
this random guy's offering people M and m's like, maybe
we should be like that guy. Seems a little off putting. Yeah,
weird society we live in right now. You knows, this
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is the first time I'm hearing you're an only child,
and it actually makes a lot of sense. Now, so
thanks for sharing that detail. I don't even know what
that means, and I'm not I'm not even going to
I'm not going to acknowledge. I'm not even going to
acknowledge this part of the show. Let's move on to
the next topic. Thank you. The next time. How to
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murder your opener, sorry, I mean husband. How to Murder
your husband writer goes on trial for but on drum roll,
allegedly killing her spouse. All right, you guys, this is
already like open and shut case. But an Oregon romance
novelist who once penned an essay titled how to Murder
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Your Husband, will face trial on Monday for allegedly shooting
dead her spouse for a one point five million life
insurance payout. Nancy Crampton Brophy. She even she even took
his last name and hyphenated it, so she must have
loved him a little bit. Now seventy one has pleaded
not guilty to gunning down her husband of twenty five years,
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Daniel Brophy, and in Portland, Okay, this was in Daniel
was found with gunshot wounds to his back chest and
at his place of work, the Oregon Culinary Institute where
he taught, shortly after arriving. So she told police that
she was at the couple's home and the shooting happened,
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and then she was arrested months later after detective said
she had been in the vicinity of the crime scene.
It took them months to find that out. Yeah, yeah.
And then days after the shooting, she allegedly asked cops
to provide her with a letter saying she wasn't a
suspect in her husband's murder so she could collect on
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his life insurance policy worth Yeah, let's hold on a second,
Hold on a second, Hold on a second. We don't
know their financial situation. We don't know like what the
bills need to be paid, you know, like was he
in charge of the money? Was she like that? You know,
like if she's just sitting there and all of a sudden,
now her husband's dead and like the lights get turned off.
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Because we don't know what their agreement was. I don't
think we should just assume that just because she was
trying to get this life insurance done, because life moves on.
They've been married twenty five years, like it is what
it is. I mean, so I don't know if that
should be that the damning evidence just because she's like
trying to like pay some bills. I don't know. What
would be One thing, if she was at a Mercedes
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dealership and she was like, oh, how much I gotta
put down? Let me um, get me get this insurance
money going, and we don't you know what I mean,
it'd be different. But like, I don't think it's fair
to this lady to, uh, you know, just say that. Well,
first of all, I do I do agree that funerals
are expensive. But the kicker is she told the police
it was fort k, but it's actually one point five mil.
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So do you feel differently now either way? I mean,
I just I still feel like either way, it's like okay, one,
if she was in a if they were in an
unhappy marriage and like just she's like, you know, like
if you're an unhappy marriage and your husband shows up dead.
I mean, how are you feeling about that? You're like, oh,
it's terrible, but all right, I gotta move on with
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my life now, you know what I mean? I don't know.
Is it is it a sign of you know, does
it mean that she murdered him? You know? But she
did lie about where she was, So the question is
did she was she like, hey, guys, I know you're
trying to solve my husband's murder. Would you just just
signed that? I prewrote this letter for you, just signed
it so I can get some money. So I agree
with you that life goes on. But was this before
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or after she lied about being in the vicinity of
the murder. Lets not forget she wrote a thing called
how to Murder your Husband, and granted, I'll give her
this much, she didn't say how to murder your husband
and get away with it. It was just strictly how
to murder your husband? Okay. So then my pushback on
that is like, she wrote a book called how to
murder your husband? So who do you think they think
it's going to be? The suspect? So she could be
sitting here just being like Damn, they're gonna think I
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did this, and so like yeah, you know, to be fair,
she also wrote books such as Hell on the Heart
and The Wrong Husband. That's what I'm saying. He could
he could have been the inspiration for a lot of this.
You know. The best part is she calls herself a
romance novelist with these titles. But like, what's the facts
of the case, Like, like you know, I don't know, Like,
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so she got a gun, it went shot her husband
at work? Why would she do it like that? So
like like how she wrote the book about how to
murder your husband? Was it? What was it? I mean,
usually you know it would be poison or I don't know.
What I'm saying is in this book? Was she like
a sloppy crime? Do you think that's just she's so?
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So she's an idiot, is what you're trying to say.
She's saying she's an idiot. So she just got a
gun and went and shot her husband in the back.
Hey again, I'm not I'm not. What I'm saying is
the things that you guys have said, like you would
be terrible prosecutors. Well but no, but I agree with
you that this it's not. It's obviously not cut dry,
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and I'm not saying that did it. But what I'm
saying is, yes, we take take away the joke that
she wrote that book, right, but she lied about where
it is and she went while during all this, And
I understand you need money, but it's I've never maybe
it's happened a lot. I've never heard of someone being like, hey,
can you guys just give me a letter so I
can get my money while you're doing all this. And
granted she may be in hard times, but we don't
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know that. We don't know either way. Really okay, real quick.
So I also she doesn't look like somebody that's doing great.
So you know, well, yeah she's in jail. Eric, Okay,
So How to Murder Your Husband by Nancy Brophy. First
of all, she lists up. First of all, this is
less of an essay more of like a listical. As
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a romantic suspense writer, I spend a lot of time
thinking about murder and consequently about police procedure. If the
murder is supposed to set me free, I certainly don't
want to spend any time in jail. And let me
say clearly for the record, I don't like jumpsuits and
oranges in my color. Okay. Then she lists out motives.
One financial. This is big, of course, it is expensive.
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Do you really want to split your possessions? Or if
you married for money, aren't you entitled to all of it?
The drawback is the police aren't stupid. They are looking
at you first, so you have to be organized, ruthless
and clever. Husbands have disappeared from cruise ships before. Why
not yours? My point? This is making this is all
making my point. This is all making my point, Like,
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do you really think that someone who is this methodical
about writing a book and what all this kind of
stuff would just go to her husband's job and shoot
him in the back. The problem is I've watched too
many TV movies about this kind of stuff, So yes,
I could see that happening, as she's already got her
alibi for exactly why you said, why would I do that?
But the other thing is I also see someone says, oh,
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she has a book, she looks like the perfect person.
Let me go do this. I'll do this murder and
it's gonna look like she did it. Do you think
she was framed? But they have no other suspects well,
they I think they're gonna they might find out that
he is a cheating dog, lying pizza ship who knows
right well she has, she leads, she writes for motives.
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Lying cheating bastard is one falling in love with someone
else's one. You know, she's like, oh, you don't want
to get stuck in a crime of passions and you
got to clean up the blood and it's messy. Um.
You know she has thought about it, but but maybe
she was just driven to the limit. And because she
also did lie. She said she was home, but she
was in the vicinity of the murder, which is not
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lying is a kind of a big deal. And she
lied about how much it was for okay, I get
those two points, But like lying about being okay, So
let's say you're being accused of from murder and you
also happened to be in the area of that murder
that you did not commit. So like, no, I straight
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up give if I know that I didn't do it,
I straight up give all the act truthful facts, and
really hope that it starts as well, because lying about
it and having that found out is going to bring
you ten times more towards the guild. I totally understand that.
But what I'm saying is I understand why someone would
lie in that in that situation. I understand why someone
would like think like, you know, oh man, I was
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over there. I don't want that, you know, I can
improve I wasn't at home. I mean, I don't know.
What I'm saying is like, that's not enough for me.
It's not enough for me that, like, you know, because
I understand that the that reaction of being like, you know,
you know, she could have just been going to this,
you know, you know, she could have been going to store.
But again, but again, she could have also done it.
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I just feel like if she did, she's like, that's
just a stupid way to do it. No, no, you said,
you clearly said she didn't do it. You're ready to
pick her up from jail, like bail her out and
get her out of jail. There's I believe in due process,
is what I'm saying. I believe in the due process.
You know, I believe in that. I mean, we need
more of that in real society. We need we need
twitter to be to have due process. Yeah, I agree
(22:19):
with that. I'm glad Elon musk Is now the largest shareholder,
and maybe he'll fix the algorithm. Maybe he'll make it
so that there's less censorship. Maybe then bring you know,
Kanye and Trump back, But I think they're a little
too far gone. Trump already has truth Social, which I
did sign up for, by the way, for pure entertainment purposes.
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I need to know what's happening on the other side,
you know, now, we should all want to see what's
happening on the other side for sure. Yeah. Thence when
you know what areas of the world to avoid, because
that's where the pitchforks are. Yeah. Yeah, keep your enemies close,
keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. They say, well, yeah,
and this is why I keep talking about my ex.
Just keep it all right, let's move on. Speaking of XS,
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Netflix and Sony halt Will Smith. I don't know why
I said that, Like I used to date Will Smith,
but they halt Will Smith projects in the aftermath of
the infamous Chris Rock slap. Wait, bring me up to speed.
What happened with Chris Rock? Something I didn't hear about this,
So I'm honestly, I'm tired of hearing about this. I'm
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over and I don't care anymore. No one cares anymore.
Let's wait for the next new Hollywood drama. This one
is tired. Yeah, I think people don't. I don't think
people care anymore, especially liberals, because it points out their hypocrisy.
So they don't want to see their hypocrisy and they
don't want to They don't want to deal with it anymore.
They don't want to deal with how like, you know,
Hollywood just kind of like celebrated this guy right after
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he did something some toxic masculinity he did, and then
like everybody wants to be like, oh, let's just move
past this, and let's just move past it, you know
what I mean. So, yeah, I'm not surprised that people
are like sick of hearing about it, sick of like
wanted to deal with it. Well, what do you think
is the appropriate punishment? Well, I think he's getting punished
the way he should get punished. I think how anybody
did assault someone should get punished, no matter what their
(24:09):
status is in the world, they should get punished. And like,
if you're like Halton Projects, because if you're on set
with Will Smith, you're gonna be like, well, if he
gets upset is you're gonna slap me, And what is
the response going to be, Well, he would never do
that on set. He can't say that anymore. He don't
get the benefit of the doubt. There's no more benefit
of the doubt for you. You Yeah, you might slap
somebody on set because you did it in a place
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where no one in the world would ever think you
would do it. So now he does not get the
benefit of the doubt. My fear is that, Yeah, I
completely agree with you. My fear is that, or my
thought is that these aren't being delayed because we want to.
You know, he didn't he did something wrong, and we
agree with it because a lot of these people are
the same people that stood up when he you know,
when he won his award and gave him a standing ovation.
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I think this is more of a pr thing. Hey,
let's lay low, we have this, we're doing the right thing,
and then we'll bring back when it's when it's time.
Because it's all optics. It's all optics, because that's what
Hollywood is. Hollywood is just an image based place. They
don't they don't come across as people they really care
about morals or integrity or anything like that. It's just
a place that just cares about what do people think?
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And let's let's deal with that and then when once
this blows over and then we'll just be they'll be
back with the projects and it'll be fine, right because
they're not actually canceling the projects, they're just posing them.
The other thing is that, like, I'm sorry, but isn't
Hollywood just a microcosm for the rest of the world.
I'm sorry, Is the finance industry really moral and filled
with integrity? Like is the big pharma industry really moral
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and filled with integrity? Like? No, everyone acts like this.
It's not just Hollywood. We just uh see this as
because everyone is so public. Like I'm sure we couldn't
name the first like top ten employees at Fighter you
know that one Fighter guy walk up and slap the other. No,
And that's the point, right, It's like there's so much
glitz and glamor around this, and people care about celebrity,
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but no one cares about executives that you know, A
T and T. Yeah, So I don't know. I mean,
like I say, it is what it is hot topic
right now and I totally get it. And they and
and they and you know that they wanted to go
away so they could be like, all right and we're back.
Well just because like Louis, you know, Louis c K
just want to gram me so things can change. Yeah.
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I mean. The other thing is like woke white women
don't know how to weigh in on this argument. Well,
they have no they have no ground to stand on.
When you look at the polls, it was something like
fifty women at first were supporting Will Smith. Well, yeah,
because he's cute, Yeah exactly, but this is yeah, this
(26:44):
is the problems. People don't know how they and anyone. Literally,
when I see comments on my Instagram posts that are like,
you know, Chris Rock was out of line, that joke was,
I'm like, shut up. I don't think people feel that
way anymore. You know, I don't think they I don't
think people really feel that way. I think people feel
like that was an overreaction, and I'm actually glad that
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the silver lining of this happening is now I think
people are looking at themselves and going, oh, we kind
of are overreacting to comedy because if he hadn't have
slapped him, okay, the next day, comics would have been
dragged again. It would have been like, oh, she has
alopecia and comics are going to and it would have
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been another attack on comics. He did that, and it
pointed out how ridiculous it is to be this upset
at a at a at a you know, but nothing joke.
But if if he hadn't slapped him, no one would
have even remember the joke. I think I would have
been right, right right, That's that's what it would have
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been like. It would have supported this even more in
this attack on on comedy. It would have just keep that,
kept it going and going. It would have been like
even more ridiculous, people being like, oh, I can't believe
they did you know this this you know, this innocuous
dad joke, a thirty year old reference dad joke, and
and oh my god, you know who. I feel bad
for Demi Moore because apparently being compared to Demi Moore
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is like the worst thing you could call someone, and
you know, then they're talking about you know, so we're like, oh,
she's bald, like you know, you know what I mean? Like,
what's your excuse for being bald? You know what I mean?
You know, you know, you know you know what I mean?
Like you're bald and it's like, you know, bald man,
bald man. Short men get talked about all the time
at nauseum. You know. That's it's like this's looked at,
is this thing and like, you know, it's just one
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of these jokes, you know what I mean. So it's
like should lea, should leah? She comes slap me now
for your honor? You know what I'm saying. It's like,
it's just say the word dri It's just ridiculous, It's
what I'm saying, It's just ridiculous. I think people are
aware of it now. I think people are aware of like,
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how what an overrea action that was to an innocuous joke.
And if we're gonna react like that to a joke
like that, then what is left for comedy? And I
think there's been a reinvigoration of comedy, right. I think
people like I had shows in San Antonio and I
felt like the people are like really there for comedy now.
That's why Chris Rocks Towards sold out because people are like, yeah,
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we want to hear what you have to say now.
And I think people are I think we've been slapped
out of this kind of like woke hase of of overcorrection,
over sensitivity, and I mean, you know, Will Smith did that.
I think he slapped America out of this nonsense of
attacking comedy. It's a good point, and you give I mean, listen,
Ricky Gervais has been saying this for a long time.
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He's been saying, Okay, if you want to say I'm
offended by a joke, didn't say it. I feel like
I feel, But don't say that joke is offensive because
it doesn't. It's not for everybody. To me is what's
missing from everyone's tweets to me. That's the real you know,
instead of the me too movement, we need to start
the to me movement, you know what I mean. So
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it's like, you know, so someone goes, oh my god,
he said that, and he is racist for saying that,
and then you need to add the words to me.
Then the rest of us can go, Okay, that's just
your opinion, the same way you're allowed to have your opinion,
but it's not facts. It's just your opinion. Right. It's
the same way people used to add in bed to
fortune cookies, right exactly. It's the This is the R. S.
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T L N. And e of of of Wheel of
Fortune where they just gave you those because from now on,
Tweet should always say to me at the end, that's
that's how I feel about it. And so so it's
like it's fun. It's like you know when somebody like
because you know what it's about premise. So when you're talking,
if you're talking to someone about the Chris Rock situation,
you have to ask them where do you stand? What
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do you feel? So if a person says, well, I
feel he was being mean spirited and hateful and he
was trying to hurt them. If that's your premise, then
I know why you're arguing this. Then you also have
to accept my premise that it was just an innocuous
fun dad joke, that he was making poking fun because
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that's his job at the oscars. If you accept that premise,
if you can accept that premise too, then why are
we fighting? Then there's no point we could just agree
to disagree because I because because I'm saying, of all
the things, if he is a mean spirited, terrible person
that was trying to hurt them, of all the information
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that is known about the Smiths, you mean to tell
me that a g I Jane joke is the worst
he could have done as a means, mean spirited person.
I find that to be idiotic. Can we be real?
The joke was funny, like they could have done so
much better. I'm even surprised at that made the cutting,
Like you know what I mean that that it didn't
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get cut. I don't think that that was like first
of all, like I said, I don't think that was
even a part of it. I think he just said
that in a moment. I think he just said it
in a moment and he thought, you know what I mean,
he thought it was gonna be like fun. And then
that's why the crowd had a weird read. The crowd
was like, ah, it was one of those like it's
a dad joke. It was like Chris rock Win, pull
up my finger, Jada, you know what I mean, That's
exactly what that joke was. And so so that's even
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more reason to be like, wow, what overreaction to a
comedy to a joke. But it was also just such
a dated joke, you know, like why don't you just
call her the rock like more? Because that would have
been more insulting. I mean, that's what I'm saying again
he in his mind was like, well, this is fun thing,
you know what I mean. And it's like, you know
what's really stupid about it is if there's a woman
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dealing with alopecia and she's bald and she's feeling terrible
about herself, someone could say to her, you know, you
should be like g I Jane and it would be
empowering and uplifting. So it's all about intent, it's all
about context. And again, this was a huge overreaction. And
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I think people saw themselves in Will Smith. Because if
Will Smith this beacon of you know, of hope and
and and a person that has transcended race and wealth
and all this thing in this country, and you can
see someone like that have such a stupid overreaction, I
think everyone else saw themselves in that too. And and
there's and I think the smart people are going, oh,
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I need to stop. I need to like check myself
about what I think is an insult. Yeah, we need
to do wellness. Check on Demi Moore, she's going through this.
You know she's having a tough time right now. Yeah,
she's she's having a tough week. You want to tie
these things together, all these people are the people in Colorado.
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They're looking out their windows and they're like, oh, did
you see what? He just made a joke that he
shouldn't have made, you know what. And they're calling in
their reporting that it was a joke, that that could
have been offended, Like yeah, yeah, yes, it's exactly. It's
like parents calling about the kids, like it's just like again,
it's you make a joke, but it's actually very it's
actually very true. Like we we are a society of overreaction,
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over correction, you know. Uh, And that's you know, there's
no there's no nuanced common sense, there's no context, there's
no it's just this overreaction. It's and it's a byproduct
of the Internet. It's a byproduct of of having to
make all your points in a hundred and forty characters.
And on that note, we're going to take a break
because that was offensive to me. We'll be right back. Yea,
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hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm
your host, Lee Lamar. I have with me my friends
Dmitri and Eric Griffin, and we are about to get
into our major topic for today, which is the Sacramento shooting.
I'm sure a lot of you have heard about it already,
but for those of you who haven't, what happened was
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six people, three women, three men were killed and twelve
others suffered varying degrees of injuries in a mass shooting
in an area of downtown Sacramento, California, bustling with nightlife.
More than one hundred shots were fired early Sunday as
hundreds lined the streets leaving clubs and bars in downtown Sacramento.
Investigators believe multiple shooters open fire just steps from the
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capital in the wake of a large fight after last
call early Sunday. So one person has been arrested in
connection with the shooting on Monday. As of Tuesday, April five,
the older brother of the first suspect in the deadly
Sacramento mass shootings was also arrested. Smiley Martin, the twenty
seven year old brother of Dondre Martin, was busted in
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the hospital bed on charges included being in possession of
a machine gun Okay. While both Martin brothers have been
named as suspects, neither has been charged with homicide. There
were multiple shooters involved and more arrests are expected, so
apparently the investigation is highly complex, involving many witnesses, videos
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of numerous types, and significant physical evidence. The latest arrest
came after SWAT officers and detective served search warrants at
three residences seizing a handgun. Okay, so it's interesting that
this happened late at night and apparently there was an argument,
a fight that broke out before it. Do we think
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that the mass shooting stemmed from the fight? What do
we think this is like gang activity? What do we
think happened here? And also I'm going to share my
screen again because I'll just never understand people. But one
of the brothers, Dendre Martin, posted on Facebook shaking my head,
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I'm hit. What do you mean? He posted that he
got hit during like during the shootings. Hit. Well, I mean,
I don't even know what to think about any of this.
And then I just think it's like, you know, this
is just like some people that made some very terrible
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choices and law enforcement has stepped in and and you know,
they got arrested. You know. Like the thing that would
be bug me more about this is if if it
was like there was a shooting and there's no suspects
and these people are at large, no this was like
swift justice. I mean, that's what we need. I mean,
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the swift justice needs to be the thing that has
talked about the most, because that's the deterrent. You know,
there's plenty of people that have guns, and there's plenty
of people that you know, don't have anger management issues.
There's gang violence, and there's all this stuff, But the
deterrent has to be that the law enforcement is going
to step in and you're not going to get away
with it. And that's what's happening here. But why do
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you think it's okay for people to just have machine guns? Civilians? Listen?
That's that's like getting into the idea of gun control
and all that kind of stuff. That's not going to
stop people from doing bad things, you know, I mean,
I can you know, it's like the thing to me,
like I I keep you know, I actually talking. I
have material about this, you know, because you know, the
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issue to me is not the right and the left
fighting about guns. The issue should be the right and
the left talking to gun companies about upgrading their technology,
Like why are we still using why are we still
shooting pieces of metal at people with lethal force? Why
is that the technology? Like I call on Elon Musk
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to invent an electric gun like he invented the electric car.
Like like, where is the technology that is non lethal
that can stop people and you know, put people down, Like,
where is the like we have an advanced to the
point where we're still using little pieces of metal to
shoot at people Like that, to me is the issue
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not who has them not you know, you know all
that and like taking it away from people who are
obviously knows how to handle a gun and they're safe
with a gun. Uh, you know the idea of that,
Like we need to find make sure people are mentally stable,
because that's fluid that changes over time. There's plenty of
people who are very mentally stable and then they just
crack and they were great with guns and now they
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have a bunch of guns and they went crazy. I
mean that, you know. We can go on and on
and on about should we have guns and should we
not have guns. The question we should be asking is
why is the technology still at that level? Just in
the same way that we should have had electric cars
thirty years ago. You know, we should have had them
in thirty years weal because the oil companies put the
kai Bosh On that it's the same thing with this.
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I'm sure that there's better technology out there, but the
gun companies are making so much money and no one
ever blames them, No one talks about them. It's always
about like, oh, should you know? It's always about the
people that have the guns as opposed to like the
people that make them. So we could have Elon developed
a long range taser, you know, you where it shoots
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out some sort of electric current that destabilizes someone versus right, Like,
I think that's the sort of technology. But I think
I think the issue is and also I do think
the government and the army has all types of weapons
like this. The public just doesn't have access to them
or knowledge of them. Don't you think who knows? That's
my question. That's the question I'm putting out there. The
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question I'm raising is why is the technology still a
hundred fifty years old? You know? That's what I'm saying,
even though the guns are saying they've made the guns
themselves better and whatever, but it's still the same technology.
It's basically a fancy slingshot, like you know what I mean, Like,
we're still shooting objects at each other to penetrate the
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body with lethal force. Again, why is that still the
technology that we're using? That should be the question. Yeah,
I mean, I think also the bigger issue is did
they just get into a fight in question mark over
what and they just all happen to have guns and
it just turned into a shooting spree or was this
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some sort of planned altercation or is this some sort
of gang fight where there are a lot of other
players at play that are just not the people that
were there shooting guns. And I think that that is
now what's making the case so complex is because they're
trying to figure out what the fight was about, who
was involved, and if there's actually a larger issue at play,
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well that's the that's what the law enforcement is doing
in their investigation, trying to find motive, to find out
you know why, I mean, because then it would be
the motively it leads to like how they can be charged.
You know, it's going to be first degree murder? Is
this going to be whatever? I mean, you know, the
law is very complex. It's way way more complex than
it is on the internet or on TV. So you know, again,
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get wrapped up in an hour, Yeah, I know, but
I'm really glad that. You know, let's let's give kudos
to law enforcement for moving swiftly, acting quick, you know,
acting on this and they have people in custody, and
you know that's usually that's usually the dominoes for getting
everyone else, you know, because no one's gonna sit here
and be like, you know, I'm faced with this crime
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on my own. I think it's gonna be a situation
where it's like, well, what just me? It was him? Him? Him?
Think they're going to wrap people out? Yeah, for sure.
How this is how it happens if you're face if
you're faced with murder, if you're faced with twenty five
to life, you know. And uh, you know, one guy
is doing stick on Facebook, so I don't know if
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he's he's taking it too seriously yet, Yeah, right, but
that but that shows somebody that is for sure going
to uh you know, look, I think the justice is
gonna be served, you know, hopefully, but from the sounds
of it right now, I think we should applaud the
law enforcement for you know, acting swiftly and getting and
having people in custody. So I mean, we could sit
here on this podcast and talk about why they did
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it and is there something more is there's some conspiracy
and all that kind of stuff. I get it, I'm saying,
but I'm saying, you know, I don't know all those
kinds whatever that is. What you know, it's just because
like people have done dumber things for less, you know,
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So like these people have terrible aim like I'm sorry,
a hundred shots fired like did they did? Are? And
none of these six people are either of the opposing team,
then you you kind of question the motive. Right then
it's just like, what what's the motive here? Right? I
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don't know, Well, the thing is like something that we're
trying to make sense of, something of that doesn't make sense.
I mean, you know, not not everything has to make sense,
but not everything has to Harry, we don't make sense.
Not everything has to have a little motive that ties
up into a little bow. Ah, this is why they
did this. They these could just be some some dumb
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some dumb people that made dumb choices and now they're
living with their consequences. Here's here's here's the question. And
I'm not get political, you know, I don't really want
to do that. But the point is there are states
right now that are making it easier to get guns right.
And I know people bring up, oh, well you don't.
You know, you need a license to to get for
a hunting license, but you don't need one to own
a gun. So there are states that are making easier
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to get guns right. But and people are going, well whatever,
But then, like we said before, not to go back
to this again, but we're so focused on you know what,
there's a new law about what age kids can be
alone or do something outside by themselves, like golf guys, Like,
look at what you're doing here. You're you're you're brushing
off and like you said, Eric, is because of the money, right,
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you're brushing off rules about guns and and hey, listen,
add that maturity level to buying a gun. Put that
as one of the levels as to whether someone can
buy a gun, as opposed to we're making a law
as to the age that people can kids can play outside.
Because a lot of people are calling in, but let
me push back on this. Okay, So the people that
are committing crimes and doing things, are you saying that
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these are people that are in states that got guns legally? No, no, no, no,
I'm not saying so that. But but that's but but
that's the you're inferring that, And what I'm saying to
you is the pushback on that is, hey, I'm a
regular citizen and criminals can get guns willie nilly, Yeah,
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I don't think. But then but then then they shouldn't
be brought up in the same context. So maybe what
I should have said was I think as far as
gun technology, they should be focusing on that, which is
what you said. They should be focusing on that because
there are people that are not mature enough to have
what they're being given or what they're getting access to,
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or what we're giving them, what we're putting out there.
But but it's so weird how we want like we're like,
we're we're wondering why criminals act like criminals, you know
what I mean? Like it's like, why aren't criminals making sense? What?
You know what I mean? Like, that's the that's the
thought process when you know, like's like, I don't care
that they're if there's a state that's allowing people to
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get guns, they were allowing that because criminals can get guns,
and then we're stopping regular people from getting guns. Now, Listen,
there's a lot of gun related accidents that happen because
people just aren't prepared. Like I say, like you have
to take a driving test to get a to get
a license. You know, you have to go down to
the d m V, get in a car with somebody
who's got a clipboard, and you have to prove that
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you can drive a car okay, because it's dangerous because
if you're on the street, you could actually hurt someone,
hurt yourself, hurt someone else. That's what we need to
add to the gun process. You know, you need to
have insurance. You should you have to have insurance to
have a gun. You should have to have take a
test to have a gun. You should have to prove
that you know how to handle a gun before they
give you a gun. I mean, these are the things
we need to be talking about, you know, other than
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just like hey take guns away or why are they
allowing people to get guns? I mean, I mean, it
is what it is. I mean, it's you know, you
know what I mean. You know you know what I'm saying.
But it's like, but my main point about in the
reference to this discussion is stop. We need to stop
trying to have rules for criminals and wonder why they're
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breaking these rules and wonder why they're doing what they're
doing or how why they're not breaking rules and they're
not criminals. Yeah, we need to have the rules in place,
but yes, I get that, but it's what I'm saying,
We're we're hoping that they have better intentions or you know,
it's like why did you know? It's like you know
it is what it is. You know, It's like there's
plenty of like the person you shouldn't be worried about
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is not the gun nut is not the person you
should be worried about. I don't know if you've ever
met a gun nut or somebody that's super into guns,
like there you know, and they're like they're super into safety.
Like a gun nut is somebody that's like they know
everything about the gun. They got it locked up in
their little cabin and they're like, oh, let me show
you this gun. This is like a are blah blah blah,
and they're like that, and that's you know, those aren't
like that person also could go crazy, but that has
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nothing to do with them having access to guns. That
has to do more about like what's going on with
people's mental health, what's going on in like you know, society,
what's going on, and you know, well, of the two
guys I dated who owned guns, one of them was
a gun nut and he has it locked in a
case where you need to use your fingerprint to open
the case, which I actually liked because it made me
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feel safer. But then the other guy, we'll just say
he did pick me up and only let me know
that he was on shrooms while driving halfway to the movies,
and then on the way home showed me both of
his guns in the car. He was like, check the
glove compartment. Then I opened. I was like ah, and
then he was like check the center console and I
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was like ah, and then I moved because I was
scared he knew where I lived. Anyway, I'm fine, yeah,
but that's somebody that's like, you know, yeah, I went
on a date with the Yeah, Eric's like bad choices.
Then I'm like, I went on a date with a
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DJ and U And it's so funny because I was like, oh,
he seemed nice, and then I was like, he did
give me drugs at the end of the date, but
there were shrooms, So, you know, just another l a
day in the books. We did go for a hike
as well, if you were curious, you and your hikes.
You know, I gotta get I gotta get a two
for a day and workout like it think better than
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dating someone at the gym, are going to the gym together.
So I'll give you that. I you know what I
hate workout couples, you know what i mean. You know
those couples that are just like they're always in sweatsuits
and you see them that they're walking and they're like,
hey guys, and they're like, what are you guys doing?
You're just like cof you know what i mean. They
have their nalgeans. You're like, yeah, they're just a plastic
(49:38):
water bottle like the rest of us. You know, they're
always on their bike. You know, their their honeymoon was
like a twenty six mile marathon. Like one of those
type of couples. I'm just like, get away from me. Yeah,
you and your abs, get the out of here. Yeah exactly.
Now I'm the opposite. I'm like when my wife's like
I'm gonna go for a run, I'm like, okay, you go,
and then when you come back, I'll go like, I
don't know, we don't need to be running next to
(49:59):
each other. Yeah, well do you You don't sleep next
to each other either, Oh, are you supposed to do that? Yeah,
this would be a problem to me. Say that feels better,
doesn't it, because you know what it is is you
taking accountability of your own opinion. That's the thing about it.
Take accountability for your opinion. Make it yours, don't make
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it something that you need people to say a men to. Well,
and that's it. Everybody judges. So if I had said that, right,
I don't. I don't like to go jogging at the
same time like my wife and I don't like to
run together someone. But well, that's not a healthy relationship
to your exactly, thank you, Because then what people do
is go, oh, this person isn't in a healthy relationship.
They don't know the context, they don't know the nuance,
(50:43):
they don't know the details of your relationship. They just
made a statement and they want to make it true.
It's like you, you know, that's what i'd say to that,
and that and that's how and I think that that's how.
I think the slap is waking us up to that fact.
To you. Yeah, and ladies and gentlemen, that's the podcast today. Eric,
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where can we find you on the internet, Like they're
not the weird stuff, just social Yeah, we don't want
to know where the sex tapes are, just you know,
your content whatever. But you can find me at you know,
Eric Griffin dot com. You know what I mean, that's
(51:29):
that's Eric with k people. Yeah, that this I feel
about Leyah. Sometimes the amount of times Eric has called
me a nightmare is I mean, I can't even count.
I don't. I mean, I can't count that high. But
you can find me at Eric Griffin r I K
G R I F F I N at Eric Griffin.
And then I'm also on Twitch a lot, Eric Griffin Gaming,
(51:52):
and you know, I'm like on Twitch, I'm sorrying on Twitter,
Instagram is at Eric Griffin, Snapchat at Eric Griffin. I'm
twitching just thinking about watching you on Twitch. Yeah, well
you can come watch me on Twitch. You know what
I mean. I'm good, Thank you so much. Sounds really
fun to you. Now. Now she's gonna be a nightmare
(52:13):
with this, She's what I'm saying. You know, it's just
this is this is oh my god, you get it.
It's when you get any toy. Yeah, this is why
we she can't have nice things. Wait to you. You're
supposed to be on my team? Yes, right, Um, this
is why she can't have nice boyfriends. People. You can
(52:35):
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with five ours again. We don't know why, it's just
like that sometimes Twitter lamar five h Yeah. And um,
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Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime.
I'm your host le Lamar, and I have with me
today my friend sometimes Dmitri. Hello Dmitri. I want it
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clear that you said my friend sometimes have the title,
not my sometimes friends. So at least we got that
out of the the way. That's official. Well, when you think
about it that way, I mean, I guess you are
sometimes my friends. Oh, I appreciate that too. I'll take it.
Hello and you guys. Today we're going to be discussing
(00:42):
a lot of hot topics. You already know how hot
they are. One is and it's weird for me to
say hot before I read this one, but Colorado passing
a law about children playing outside alone based on maturity level.
L O L. Sony and Netflix halting Will Smith projects
yea A, an author of How to Murder Your Husband,
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goes to trial for allegedly killing her husband, and then,
of course the case that everyone's talking about, the Sacramento shooting,
and joining us today, I have with me one of
my favorite human beings. He's a stand up comedian. You
know him from work on Holics, from I'm Dying up here,
Mike and Dave need wedding dates from Riffin with Griffin.
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He's a star, he's my friend, He's hilarious. Eric Griffin
go on, I'm going to his wedding for sure. Confirmed?
Oh is it? I think I think it is. I
went on a date with his fiance last night. And think,
by the way, Eric, thanks for dinner. Yeah, that's how
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you get into invited to a wedding. You go out
with the with the significant other alone when you get it.
I just had to get them in a a in
a in a group chat and just know Jewish girls unite,
and then now they were like besties. Yeah. And then
we face timed him and Eric was like, have my
back and I was like, sorry, I met Rachel and
now I got Rachel's back. So by Eric. Also, before
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we talk about me and Eric for a second, I
just want to address a new Hollywood crime that's come out.
It's called my spray tan. Yeah, okay, so if you
can't see it, uh, Leah has those your finger There
will be a clip of this. Would you say, are
those your fingerprints? Yes, you tanned with somebody. Here's the
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do you guys think I did it? I mean called
bronze handed. Yeah, I have your first time doing it.
Um no, this is the first time I had someone
else do it for me. And let me say mistake.
Letting someone else see my naked body without receiving a
compliment was so odd. We didn't even have sex. It
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was like what am I paying for? Anyway? Um, welcome
back to Okay, Eric, Are you so glad you agreed
to do this? Oh my god, this is early in
the morning to even think about your pale, pink naked body.
And and the best part, let me just tell you this.
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When I was drying myself off after I looked in
the mirror and I was like, damn, I look so good.
And I looked at myself in the backside and I
bent over and when you like, my butt cheeks spread apart,
just like white down the cray Like, I can't have
sex with anyone. This is embarrassing. I don't even know
what to deal with this, Like I have a white crack.
Good morning. So this is what we do here, We
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go through crimes and connect dots. So you were out
with Eric's fiance last night and somebody gave you a
naked spray tan. This was this all on the same yes,
And then I woke up a loan officer. Okay, so, um, Eric,
before we get into the crime, the people want to
know how we know each other. Um, what do you mean?
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We can do comedy, but not everyone knows that. I
opened on the road for Eric. We've gone to many
a city together. Um. I torture Eric with my guy issues,
and we spend most of our meals discussing all the
problems that I have. Crack. Well, this is why, don't
worry Rachel. Rachel came home and was like all she
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did was talking about her ex. Yeah, Lee is one
of those man just you have to hear about her
terrible choice in man anytime you go out with her. Well,
what else am I gonna talk about my career? Which
that or your apparently that or your butt? Crack? So
thank you? Yeah, I mean so really we've so anyway, Um, Eric, Eric,
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people want to know what made you want to be
a comedian. This is what we're gonna talk about. What
we just have to introduce you to the world. Nobody cares.
Let's get to the crimes. You know what I mean?
They you know what I mean, Come on, let's here
for it. They don't need a weird bio about me.
I was funny. I became a comic. Here we are
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your god. This is gonna be a great episode. So,
by the way, this is what he does on stage two.
He's like, I got a bunch of setups and some punchlines.
All right, thanks for coming everybody. Thanks set up, set up, laugh, laugh, laugh,
where's my check? I love? Rachel told me last night.
I mean, you've told me a version of this, but
I heard it from Rachel's mouth last night about how
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you guys met h the laughs of stuff. I mean,
it's all the same, yeah, but it was. It was funny.
She was like on a date and brought him to
the comedy store. Yeah, well she told me that anyway. No,
she went to the improv like yeah, yeah. But as
I was talking to her, she was like, I want
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to come to the show because I want to come
to your show. Then she's like, well, I'm kind of
I'm already going to be with someone, you know, who's
gonna buy my drinks. This is exactly how she said it,
you know. And I was like, I'll get you in.
It's fine. So then I see her in the crowd.
I'm doing my jokes and I had I have particular
jokes perfect for this situation. So I have jokes about
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like I'm not going to be your friend, and that
this poor idiot is sitting behind her, you know, you know,
like just an idiot, you know what I mean, Like
I'm clear, you know. And then but then I didn't
wait to say hi to her after the show, and
she was like you didn't wait? Why could you didn't
say hi to me? I was like, you're on a date,
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you know what I mean, Like, what do you I'm
not gonna say. I don't care, you know what I mean?
And then I went and then she invited me to
another place, Delilah's, where she was on another date again,
but she was but she was mad at the guy
because she was watching him sing. He was a singer
and he invited a bunch of girls and her to
watch him sing. So she got mad and was like, well,
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I'm in inviting somebody over, you know. So I came
and the guy just happened to be a fan of me.
He was like, oh, wow, sit here at our table,
and I was like, oh, that's great, and then I
took her out. We went out and we went talking,
and then the next thing we started hanging out and
the next thing you know, we're dating and then now
years later we're engaged. So I gotta pull Rachel and
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somehow what does that even mean? What does that mean
to you? Pull a Rachel? Do you have to pay
for everything? Okay? Well, hey yes, Eric, can I get
a credit card? This is the weird time for publicly
would be better than privately? And then okay, alright, so
just bring dates to places where the guy I actually
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like might be. Yeah, you'd be surprised how that of effects.
It sparks the it's spark the competition in a man.
You're also pathetic. Well, it sparks competition with with a man,
except for you, because you were like, I'm not sticking
around and say hi, screw that. But then that made
her be like, you know, now I flipped the script,
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that's what. Yeah, you flipped in and she was like, hey,
why don't you come to this place where my other boyfriend? Exactly?
All right, a man? So I stole her from two men?
How about that? When when two oh, Eric, watching the
men laugh at this is very discomforting. Discomforting. It's too
early to do anything. All right, let's get into the
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hot topics. Thanks for sharing your love life with us, Eric,
because mine it's not fun to listen to. It is
not trust everyone's cool case right now? It was d
O A cool. It's actually open it It's actually an
open and shut case. The guys are just gone, I think, yeah,
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if they're just like who murdered Lee? Is love life?
Leah did it's self inflicting dead? All right, you guys,
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let's hop into these hot topics. The first one is
Colorado passes law allowing children to play outside alone based
on maturity level. Okay. A Colorado governor signed a bill
into law on Wednesday allowing children to play outside independently
without it being labeled abuse or neglect. The state's previous
law caused as spike and complaints towards parents who are
accused of neglect whenever their children were seen playing outside
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or walking to school alone. Two one thousand calls to
the state's child abuse hotline in one and only thirteen
thousand calls were actually accurate. The bill states that a
child is not neglected when allowed to participate in certain
independent activities that are reasonable and prudent parent, guardian or
legal custodian would consider safe. Given the child's maturity, condition
or abilities. Uh yeah, what this makes a perfect sense
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to me. I used to walk to you. So a
kid can't walk to school, they can't ride their bike
to school without their parents like that? What what kind
of nonsense is this? This is some woke policing bullshit. Yeah,
this is this is what the problem is is they
need to like, the law should be if you call
the police unwarrantedly, you should be fined. That's the law
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they need to put into If you're a Karen looking
outside and you see a kid and you're like, oh
my god, I see a child by themselves, you should
be fined. That's what should happen. They should be a
fifty dollar fine every time you call the cops stupidly.
I used to walk to school by myself. I used
to go to the the park by myself. Yeah, what are
we talking about? How I turned out? I'm just fine.
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Kids can't. Kids can't play in the yard, they can't
Like what are you what are we talking about right now?
I mean living living in fear? Just it sounds really stupid.
I think that the law that, like I said, the
law that should go into a place right now is
if you call the cops unjustly or uh for a
ridiculous reason, you should be fined. Yeah, I feel bad.
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Thirteen thousand of them were accurate, but you know, so
it's nice that whatever situation that was brought attention to it.
But that's out of two thousand. That's I agree, that's
just people like seeing something and calling it. But also
it's like based on the maturity level, that's not going
to fix it, right, because if I say my kids
old enough to walk to school alone, it's not like
I'm not going to stop by the neighbors and be like,
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just so you know, I have okay, this is they're
mature enough. And also people's gauge of how mature people
are it's always off anyway, So yeah, that's always like right,
it's and it's also like do you just put a
label on their backpack like mature a fright? You know.
That's like that's like when I was eighteen and I
remember all these like much older men and would be like,
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you're so wise beyond your years. It's like, no, I'm eighteen,
just so you're aware. I I'm definitely just turned eighteen.
That's like the that's the predator tagline well also Dmitri
as the only parent of the three of us. How
do you feel about this? I mean, I think, like
I said, I appreciate people somewhat looking out, but I
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think people are too quick to judge and too quick
to like raise a red flag and try and get
parents in trouble. Like kids, we did a lot of
ship when we're young, Like I didn't get now I
bring my kids, you know, driving to practice. I used
to go home to an empty house, get my baseball
met and go to baseball practice, like like there's stuff
that goes on. But I was I was a singer.
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My mom was a single parent. I was an only child,
you know what I mean. I had to go do
I had to do stuff on my own, you know.
And and how about and how about just look out
for the kids instead of calling you're looking out, you
see something funky that you come out there. It takes
a village, they say, you know what I mean. So
now the village there's no village anymore. It's just Karen's like,
you know, being like, you know, thinking they're doing something,
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you know what I mean. It's like, why aren't we
calling in the white vans? Like why are we Why
are we calling in the children? You know, it's like
this random guy's offering people M and m's like, maybe
we should be like that guy. Seems a little off putting. Yeah,
weird society we live in right now. You knows, this
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is the first time I'm hearing you're an only child,
and it actually makes a lot of sense. Now, so
thanks for sharing that detail. I don't even know what
that means, and I'm not I'm not even going to
I'm not going to acknowledge. I'm not even going to
acknowledge this part of the show. Let's move on to
the next topic. Thank you. The next time. How to
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murder your opener, sorry, I mean husband. How to Murder
your husband writer goes on trial for but on drum roll,
allegedly killing her spouse. All right, you guys, this is
already like open and shut case. But an Oregon romance
novelist who once penned an essay titled how to Murder
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Your Husband, will face trial on Monday for allegedly shooting
dead her spouse for a one point five million life
insurance payout. Nancy Crampton Brophy. She even she even took
his last name and hyphenated it, so she must have
loved him a little bit. Now seventy one has pleaded
not guilty to gunning down her husband of twenty five years,
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Daniel Brophy, and in Portland, Okay, this was in Daniel
was found with gunshot wounds to his back chest and
at his place of work, the Oregon Culinary Institute where
he taught, shortly after arriving. So she told police that
she was at the couple's home and the shooting happened,
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and then she was arrested months later after detective said
she had been in the vicinity of the crime scene.
It took them months to find that out. Yeah, yeah.
And then days after the shooting, she allegedly asked cops
to provide her with a letter saying she wasn't a
suspect in her husband's murder so she could collect on
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his life insurance policy worth Yeah, let's hold on a second,
Hold on a second, Hold on a second. We don't
know their financial situation. We don't know like what the
bills need to be paid, you know, like was he
in charge of the money? Was she like that? You know,
like if she's just sitting there and all of a sudden,
now her husband's dead and like the lights get turned off.
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Because we don't know what their agreement was. I don't
think we should just assume that just because she was
trying to get this life insurance done, because life moves on.
They've been married twenty five years, like it is what
it is. I mean, so I don't know if that
should be that the damning evidence just because she's like
trying to like pay some bills. I don't know. What
would be One thing, if she was at a Mercedes
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dealership and she was like, oh, how much I gotta
put down? Let me um, get me get this insurance
money going, and we don't you know what I mean,
it'd be different. But like, I don't think it's fair
to this lady to, uh, you know, just say that. Well,
first of all, I do I do agree that funerals
are expensive. But the kicker is she told the police
it was fort k, but it's actually one point five mil.
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So do you feel differently now either way? I mean,
I just I still feel like either way, it's like okay, one,
if she was in a if they were in an
unhappy marriage and like just she's like, you know, like
if you're an unhappy marriage and your husband shows up dead.
I mean, how are you feeling about that? You're like, oh,
it's terrible, but all right, I gotta move on with
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my life now, you know what I mean? I don't know.
Is it is it a sign of you know, does
it mean that she murdered him? You know? But she
did lie about where she was, So the question is
did she was she like, hey, guys, I know you're
trying to solve my husband's murder. Would you just just
signed that? I prewrote this letter for you, just signed
it so I can get some money. So I agree
with you that life goes on. But was this before
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or after she lied about being in the vicinity of
the murder. Lets not forget she wrote a thing called
how to Murder your Husband, and granted, I'll give her
this much, she didn't say how to murder your husband
and get away with it. It was just strictly how
to murder your husband? Okay. So then my pushback on
that is like, she wrote a book called how to
murder your husband? So who do you think they think
it's going to be? The suspect? So she could be
sitting here just being like Damn, they're gonna think I
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did this, and so like yeah, you know, to be fair,
she also wrote books such as Hell on the Heart
and The Wrong Husband. That's what I'm saying. He could
he could have been the inspiration for a lot of this.
You know. The best part is she calls herself a
romance novelist with these titles. But like, what's the facts
of the case, Like, like you know, I don't know, Like,
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so she got a gun, it went shot her husband
at work? Why would she do it like that? So
like like how she wrote the book about how to
murder your husband? Was it? What was it? I mean,
usually you know it would be poison or I don't know.
What I'm saying is in this book? Was she like
a sloppy crime? Do you think that's just she's so?
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So she's an idiot, is what you're trying to say.
She's saying she's an idiot. So she just got a
gun and went and shot her husband in the back.
Hey again, I'm not I'm not. What I'm saying is
the things that you guys have said, like you would
be terrible prosecutors. Well but no, but I agree with
you that this it's not. It's obviously not cut dry,
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and I'm not saying that did it. But what I'm
saying is, yes, we take take away the joke that
she wrote that book, right, but she lied about where
it is and she went while during all this, And
I understand you need money, but it's I've never maybe
it's happened a lot. I've never heard of someone being like, hey,
can you guys just give me a letter so I
can get my money while you're doing all this. And
granted she may be in hard times, but we don't
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know that. We don't know either way. Really okay, real quick.
So I also she doesn't look like somebody that's doing great.
So you know, well, yeah she's in jail. Eric, Okay,
So How to Murder Your Husband by Nancy Brophy. First
of all, she lists up. First of all, this is
less of an essay more of like a listical. As
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a romantic suspense writer, I spend a lot of time
thinking about murder and consequently about police procedure. If the
murder is supposed to set me free, I certainly don't
want to spend any time in jail. And let me
say clearly for the record, I don't like jumpsuits and
oranges in my color. Okay. Then she lists out motives.
One financial. This is big, of course, it is expensive.
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Do you really want to split your possessions? Or if
you married for money, aren't you entitled to all of it?
The drawback is the police aren't stupid. They are looking
at you first, so you have to be organized, ruthless
and clever. Husbands have disappeared from cruise ships before. Why
not yours? My point? This is making this is all
making my point. This is all making my point, Like,
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do you really think that someone who is this methodical
about writing a book and what all this kind of
stuff would just go to her husband's job and shoot
him in the back. The problem is I've watched too
many TV movies about this kind of stuff, So yes,
I could see that happening, as she's already got her
alibi for exactly why you said, why would I do that?
But the other thing is I also see someone says, oh,
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she has a book, she looks like the perfect person.
Let me go do this. I'll do this murder and
it's gonna look like she did it. Do you think
she was framed? But they have no other suspects well,
they I think they're gonna they might find out that
he is a cheating dog, lying pizza ship who knows
right well she has, she leads, she writes for motives.
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Lying cheating bastard is one falling in love with someone
else's one. You know, she's like, oh, you don't want
to get stuck in a crime of passions and you
got to clean up the blood and it's messy. Um.
You know she has thought about it, but but maybe
she was just driven to the limit. And because she
also did lie. She said she was home, but she
was in the vicinity of the murder, which is not
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lying is a kind of a big deal. And she
lied about how much it was for okay, I get
those two points, But like lying about being okay, So
let's say you're being accused of from murder and you
also happened to be in the area of that murder
that you did not commit. So like, no, I straight
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up give if I know that I didn't do it,
I straight up give all the act truthful facts, and
really hope that it starts as well, because lying about
it and having that found out is going to bring
you ten times more towards the guild. I totally understand that.
But what I'm saying is I understand why someone would
lie in that in that situation. I understand why someone
would like think like, you know, oh man, I was
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over there. I don't want that, you know, I can
improve I wasn't at home. I mean, I don't know.
What I'm saying is like, that's not enough for me.
It's not enough for me that, like, you know, because
I understand that the that reaction of being like, you know,
you know, she could have just been going to this,
you know, you know, she could have been going to store.
But again, but again, she could have also done it.
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I just feel like if she did, she's like, that's
just a stupid way to do it. No, no, you said,
you clearly said she didn't do it. You're ready to
pick her up from jail, like bail her out and
get her out of jail. There's I believe in due process,
is what I'm saying. I believe in the due process.
You know, I believe in that. I mean, we need
more of that in real society. We need we need
twitter to be to have due process. Yeah, I agree
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with that. I'm glad Elon musk Is now the largest shareholder,
and maybe he'll fix the algorithm. Maybe he'll make it
so that there's less censorship. Maybe then bring you know,
Kanye and Trump back, But I think they're a little
too far gone. Trump already has truth Social, which I
did sign up for, by the way, for pure entertainment purposes.
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I need to know what's happening on the other side,
you know, now, we should all want to see what's
happening on the other side for sure. Yeah. Thence when
you know what areas of the world to avoid, because
that's where the pitchforks are. Yeah. Yeah, keep your enemies close,
keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. They say, well, yeah,
and this is why I keep talking about my ex.
Just keep it all right, let's move on. Speaking of XS,
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Netflix and Sony halt Will Smith. I don't know why
I said that, Like I used to date Will Smith,
but they halt Will Smith projects in the aftermath of
the infamous Chris Rock slap. Wait, bring me up to speed.
What happened with Chris Rock? Something I didn't hear about this,
So I'm honestly, I'm tired of hearing about this. I'm
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over and I don't care anymore. No one cares anymore.
Let's wait for the next new Hollywood drama. This one
is tired. Yeah, I think people don't. I don't think
people care anymore, especially liberals, because it points out their hypocrisy.
So they don't want to see their hypocrisy and they
don't want to They don't want to deal with it anymore.
They don't want to deal with how like, you know,
Hollywood just kind of like celebrated this guy right after
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he did something some toxic masculinity he did, and then
like everybody wants to be like, oh, let's just move
past this, and let's just move past it, you know
what I mean. So, yeah, I'm not surprised that people
are like sick of hearing about it, sick of like
wanted to deal with it. Well, what do you think
is the appropriate punishment? Well, I think he's getting punished
the way he should get punished. I think how anybody
did assault someone should get punished, no matter what their
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status is in the world, they should get punished. And like,
if you're like Halton Projects, because if you're on set
with Will Smith, you're gonna be like, well, if he
gets upset is you're gonna slap me, And what is
the response going to be, Well, he would never do
that on set. He can't say that anymore. He don't
get the benefit of the doubt. There's no more benefit
of the doubt for you. You Yeah, you might slap
somebody on set because you did it in a place
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where no one in the world would ever think you
would do it. So now he does not get the
benefit of the doubt. My fear is that, Yeah, I
completely agree with you. My fear is that, or my
thought is that these aren't being delayed because we want to.
You know, he didn't he did something wrong, and we
agree with it because a lot of these people are
the same people that stood up when he you know,
when he won his award and gave him a standing ovation.
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I think this is more of a pr thing. Hey,
let's lay low, we have this, we're doing the right thing,
and then we'll bring back when it's when it's time.
Because it's all optics. It's all optics, because that's what
Hollywood is. Hollywood is just an image based place. They
don't they don't come across as people they really care
about morals or integrity or anything like that. It's just
a place that just cares about what do people think?
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And let's let's deal with that and then when once
this blows over and then we'll just be they'll be
back with the projects and it'll be fine, right because
they're not actually canceling the projects, they're just posing them.
The other thing is that, like, I'm sorry, but isn't
Hollywood just a microcosm for the rest of the world.
I'm sorry, Is the finance industry really moral and filled
with integrity? Like is the big pharma industry really moral
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and filled with integrity? Like? No, everyone acts like this.
It's not just Hollywood. We just uh see this as
because everyone is so public. Like I'm sure we couldn't
name the first like top ten employees at Fighter you
know that one Fighter guy walk up and slap the other. No,
And that's the point, right, It's like there's so much
glitz and glamor around this, and people care about celebrity,
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but no one cares about executives that you know, A
T and T. Yeah, So I don't know. I mean,
like I say, it is what it is hot topic
right now and I totally get it. And they and
and they and you know that they wanted to go
away so they could be like, all right and we're back.
Well just because like Louis, you know, Louis c K
just want to gram me so things can change. Yeah.
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I mean. The other thing is like woke white women
don't know how to weigh in on this argument. Well,
they have no they have no ground to stand on.
When you look at the polls, it was something like
fifty women at first were supporting Will Smith. Well, yeah,
because he's cute, Yeah exactly, but this is yeah, this
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is the problems. People don't know how they and anyone. Literally,
when I see comments on my Instagram posts that are like,
you know, Chris Rock was out of line, that joke was,
I'm like, shut up. I don't think people feel that
way anymore. You know, I don't think they I don't
think people really feel that way. I think people feel
like that was an overreaction, and I'm actually glad that
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the silver lining of this happening is now I think
people are looking at themselves and going, oh, we kind
of are overreacting to comedy because if he hadn't have
slapped him, okay, the next day, comics would have been
dragged again. It would have been like, oh, she has
alopecia and comics are going to and it would have
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been another attack on comics. He did that, and it
pointed out how ridiculous it is to be this upset
at a at a at a you know, but nothing joke.
But if if he hadn't slapped him, no one would
have even remember the joke. I think I would have
been right, right right, That's that's what it would have
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been like. It would have supported this even more in
this attack on on comedy. It would have just keep that,
kept it going and going. It would have been like
even more ridiculous, people being like, oh, I can't believe
they did you know this this you know, this innocuous
dad joke, a thirty year old reference dad joke, and
and oh my god, you know who. I feel bad
for Demi Moore because apparently being compared to Demi Moore
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is like the worst thing you could call someone, and
you know, then they're talking about you know, so we're like, oh,
she's bald, like you know, you know what I mean? Like,
what's your excuse for being bald? You know what I mean?
You know, you know, you know you know what I mean?
Like you're bald and it's like, you know, bald man,
bald man. Short men get talked about all the time
at nauseum. You know. That's it's like this's looked at,
is this thing and like, you know, it's just one
(28:37):
of these jokes, you know what I mean. So it's
like should lea, should leah? She comes slap me now
for your honor? You know what I'm saying. It's like,
it's just say the word dri It's just ridiculous, It's
what I'm saying, It's just ridiculous. I think people are
aware of it now. I think people are aware of like,
(28:58):
how what an overrea action that was to an innocuous joke.
And if we're gonna react like that to a joke
like that, then what is left for comedy? And I
think there's been a reinvigoration of comedy, right. I think
people like I had shows in San Antonio and I
felt like the people are like really there for comedy now.
That's why Chris Rocks Towards sold out because people are like, yeah,
(29:20):
we want to hear what you have to say now.
And I think people are I think we've been slapped
out of this kind of like woke hase of of overcorrection,
over sensitivity, and I mean, you know, Will Smith did that.
I think he slapped America out of this nonsense of
attacking comedy. It's a good point, and you give I mean, listen,
Ricky Gervais has been saying this for a long time.
(29:40):
He's been saying, Okay, if you want to say I'm
offended by a joke, didn't say it. I feel like
I feel, But don't say that joke is offensive because
it doesn't. It's not for everybody. To me is what's
missing from everyone's tweets to me. That's the real you know,
instead of the me too movement, we need to start
the to me movement, you know what I mean. So
(30:03):
it's like, you know, so someone goes, oh my god,
he said that, and he is racist for saying that,
and then you need to add the words to me.
Then the rest of us can go, Okay, that's just
your opinion, the same way you're allowed to have your opinion,
but it's not facts. It's just your opinion. Right. It's
the same way people used to add in bed to
fortune cookies, right exactly. It's the This is the R. S.
(30:26):
T L N. And e of of of Wheel of
Fortune where they just gave you those because from now on,
Tweet should always say to me at the end, that's
that's how I feel about it. And so so it's
like it's fun. It's like you know when somebody like
because you know what it's about premise. So when you're talking,
if you're talking to someone about the Chris Rock situation,
you have to ask them where do you stand? What
(30:48):
do you feel? So if a person says, well, I
feel he was being mean spirited and hateful and he
was trying to hurt them. If that's your premise, then
I know why you're arguing this. Then you also have
to accept my premise that it was just an innocuous
fun dad joke, that he was making poking fun because
(31:09):
that's his job at the oscars. If you accept that premise,
if you can accept that premise too, then why are
we fighting? Then there's no point we could just agree
to disagree because I because because I'm saying, of all
the things, if he is a mean spirited, terrible person
that was trying to hurt them, of all the information
(31:29):
that is known about the Smiths, you mean to tell
me that a g I Jane joke is the worst
he could have done as a means, mean spirited person.
I find that to be idiotic. Can we be real?
The joke was funny, like they could have done so
much better. I'm even surprised at that made the cutting,
Like you know what I mean that that it didn't
(31:51):
get cut. I don't think that that was like first
of all, like I said, I don't think that was
even a part of it. I think he just said
that in a moment. I think he just said it
in a moment and he thought, you know what I mean,
he thought it was gonna be like fun. And then
that's why the crowd had a weird read. The crowd
was like, ah, it was one of those like it's
a dad joke. It was like Chris rock Win, pull
up my finger, Jada, you know what I mean, That's
exactly what that joke was. And so so that's even
(32:13):
more reason to be like, wow, what overreaction to a
comedy to a joke. But it was also just such
a dated joke, you know, like why don't you just
call her the rock like more? Because that would have
been more insulting. I mean, that's what I'm saying again
he in his mind was like, well, this is fun thing,
you know what I mean. And it's like, you know
what's really stupid about it is if there's a woman
(32:37):
dealing with alopecia and she's bald and she's feeling terrible
about herself, someone could say to her, you know, you
should be like g I Jane and it would be
empowering and uplifting. So it's all about intent, it's all
about context. And again, this was a huge overreaction. And
(32:57):
I think people saw themselves in Will Smith. Because if
Will Smith this beacon of you know, of hope and
and and a person that has transcended race and wealth
and all this thing in this country, and you can
see someone like that have such a stupid overreaction, I
think everyone else saw themselves in that too. And and
there's and I think the smart people are going, oh,
(33:19):
I need to stop. I need to like check myself
about what I think is an insult. Yeah, we need
to do wellness. Check on Demi Moore, she's going through this.
You know she's having a tough time right now. Yeah,
she's she's having a tough week. You want to tie
these things together, all these people are the people in Colorado.
(33:42):
They're looking out their windows and they're like, oh, did
you see what? He just made a joke that he
shouldn't have made, you know what. And they're calling in
their reporting that it was a joke, that that could
have been offended, Like yeah, yeah, yes, it's exactly. It's
like parents calling about the kids, like it's just like again,
it's you make a joke, but it's actually very it's
actually very true. Like we we are a society of overreaction,
(34:04):
over correction, you know. Uh, And that's you know, there's
no there's no nuanced common sense, there's no context, there's
no it's just this overreaction. It's and it's a byproduct
of the Internet. It's a byproduct of of having to
make all your points in a hundred and forty characters.
And on that note, we're going to take a break
because that was offensive to me. We'll be right back. Yea,
(34:40):
hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm
your host, Lee Lamar. I have with me my friends
Dmitri and Eric Griffin, and we are about to get
into our major topic for today, which is the Sacramento shooting.
I'm sure a lot of you have heard about it already,
but for those of you who haven't, what happened was
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six people, three women, three men were killed and twelve
others suffered varying degrees of injuries in a mass shooting
in an area of downtown Sacramento, California, bustling with nightlife.
More than one hundred shots were fired early Sunday as
hundreds lined the streets leaving clubs and bars in downtown Sacramento.
Investigators believe multiple shooters open fire just steps from the
(35:22):
capital in the wake of a large fight after last
call early Sunday. So one person has been arrested in
connection with the shooting on Monday. As of Tuesday, April five,
the older brother of the first suspect in the deadly
Sacramento mass shootings was also arrested. Smiley Martin, the twenty
seven year old brother of Dondre Martin, was busted in
(35:43):
the hospital bed on charges included being in possession of
a machine gun Okay. While both Martin brothers have been
named as suspects, neither has been charged with homicide. There
were multiple shooters involved and more arrests are expected, so
apparently the investigation is highly complex, involving many witnesses, videos
(36:04):
of numerous types, and significant physical evidence. The latest arrest
came after SWAT officers and detective served search warrants at
three residences seizing a handgun. Okay, so it's interesting that
this happened late at night and apparently there was an argument,
a fight that broke out before it. Do we think
(36:26):
that the mass shooting stemmed from the fight? What do
we think this is like gang activity? What do we
think happened here? And also I'm going to share my
screen again because I'll just never understand people. But one
of the brothers, Dendre Martin, posted on Facebook shaking my head,
(36:46):
I'm hit. What do you mean? He posted that he
got hit during like during the shootings. Hit. Well, I mean,
I don't even know what to think about any of this.
And then I just think it's like, you know, this
is just like some people that made some very terrible
(37:08):
choices and law enforcement has stepped in and and you know,
they got arrested. You know. Like the thing that would
be bug me more about this is if if it
was like there was a shooting and there's no suspects
and these people are at large, no this was like
swift justice. I mean, that's what we need. I mean,
(37:28):
the swift justice needs to be the thing that has
talked about the most, because that's the deterrent. You know,
there's plenty of people that have guns, and there's plenty
of people that you know, don't have anger management issues.
There's gang violence, and there's all this stuff, But the
deterrent has to be that the law enforcement is going
to step in and you're not going to get away
with it. And that's what's happening here. But why do
(37:48):
you think it's okay for people to just have machine guns? Civilians? Listen?
That's that's like getting into the idea of gun control
and all that kind of stuff. That's not going to
stop people from doing bad things, you know, I mean,
I can you know, it's like the thing to me,
like I I keep you know, I actually talking. I
have material about this, you know, because you know, the
(38:09):
issue to me is not the right and the left
fighting about guns. The issue should be the right and
the left talking to gun companies about upgrading their technology,
Like why are we still using why are we still
shooting pieces of metal at people with lethal force? Why
is that the technology? Like I call on Elon Musk
(38:29):
to invent an electric gun like he invented the electric car.
Like like, where is the technology that is non lethal
that can stop people and you know, put people down, Like,
where is the like we have an advanced to the
point where we're still using little pieces of metal to
shoot at people Like that, to me is the issue
(38:49):
not who has them not you know, you know all
that and like taking it away from people who are
obviously knows how to handle a gun and they're safe
with a gun. Uh, you know the idea of that,
Like we need to find make sure people are mentally stable,
because that's fluid that changes over time. There's plenty of
people who are very mentally stable and then they just
crack and they were great with guns and now they
(39:10):
have a bunch of guns and they went crazy. I
mean that, you know. We can go on and on
and on about should we have guns and should we
not have guns. The question we should be asking is
why is the technology still at that level? Just in
the same way that we should have had electric cars
thirty years ago. You know, we should have had them
in thirty years weal because the oil companies put the
kai Bosh On that it's the same thing with this.
(39:32):
I'm sure that there's better technology out there, but the
gun companies are making so much money and no one
ever blames them, No one talks about them. It's always
about like, oh, should you know? It's always about the
people that have the guns as opposed to like the
people that make them. So we could have Elon developed
a long range taser, you know, you where it shoots
(39:52):
out some sort of electric current that destabilizes someone versus right, Like,
I think that's the sort of technology. But I think
I think the issue is and also I do think
the government and the army has all types of weapons
like this. The public just doesn't have access to them
or knowledge of them. Don't you think who knows? That's
my question. That's the question I'm putting out there. The
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question I'm raising is why is the technology still a
hundred fifty years old? You know? That's what I'm saying,
even though the guns are saying they've made the guns
themselves better and whatever, but it's still the same technology.
It's basically a fancy slingshot, like you know what I mean, Like,
we're still shooting objects at each other to penetrate the
(40:36):
body with lethal force. Again, why is that still the
technology that we're using? That should be the question. Yeah,
I mean, I think also the bigger issue is did
they just get into a fight in question mark over
what and they just all happen to have guns and
it just turned into a shooting spree or was this
(40:59):
some sort of planned altercation or is this some sort
of gang fight where there are a lot of other
players at play that are just not the people that
were there shooting guns. And I think that that is
now what's making the case so complex is because they're
trying to figure out what the fight was about, who
was involved, and if there's actually a larger issue at play,
(41:21):
well that's the that's what the law enforcement is doing
in their investigation, trying to find motive, to find out
you know why, I mean, because then it would be
the motively it leads to like how they can be charged.
You know, it's going to be first degree murder? Is
this going to be whatever? I mean, you know, the
law is very complex. It's way way more complex than
it is on the internet or on TV. So you know, again,
(41:44):
get wrapped up in an hour, Yeah, I know, but
I'm really glad that. You know, let's let's give kudos
to law enforcement for moving swiftly, acting quick, you know,
acting on this and they have people in custody, and
you know that's usually that's usually the dominoes for getting
everyone else, you know, because no one's gonna sit here
and be like, you know, I'm faced with this crime
(42:05):
on my own. I think it's gonna be a situation
where it's like, well, what just me? It was him? Him? Him?
Think they're going to wrap people out? Yeah, for sure.
How this is how it happens if you're face if
you're faced with murder, if you're faced with twenty five
to life, you know. And uh, you know, one guy
is doing stick on Facebook, so I don't know if
(42:26):
he's he's taking it too seriously yet, Yeah, right, but
that but that shows somebody that is for sure going
to uh you know, look, I think the justice is
gonna be served, you know, hopefully, but from the sounds
of it right now, I think we should applaud the
law enforcement for you know, acting swiftly and getting and
having people in custody. So I mean, we could sit
here on this podcast and talk about why they did
(42:48):
it and is there something more is there's some conspiracy
and all that kind of stuff. I get it, I'm saying,
but I'm saying, you know, I don't know all those
kinds whatever that is. What you know, it's just because
like people have done dumber things for less, you know,
(43:08):
So like these people have terrible aim like I'm sorry,
a hundred shots fired like did they did? Are? And
none of these six people are either of the opposing team,
then you you kind of question the motive. Right then
it's just like, what what's the motive here? Right? I
(43:29):
don't know, Well, the thing is like something that we're
trying to make sense of, something of that doesn't make sense.
I mean, you know, not not everything has to make sense,
but not everything has to Harry, we don't make sense.
Not everything has to have a little motive that ties
up into a little bow. Ah, this is why they
did this. They these could just be some some dumb
(43:53):
some dumb people that made dumb choices and now they're
living with their consequences. Here's here's here's the question. And
I'm not get political, you know, I don't really want
to do that. But the point is there are states
right now that are making it easier to get guns right.
And I know people bring up, oh, well you don't.
You know, you need a license to to get for
a hunting license, but you don't need one to own
a gun. So there are states that are making easier
(44:15):
to get guns right. But and people are going, well whatever,
But then, like we said before, not to go back
to this again, but we're so focused on you know what,
there's a new law about what age kids can be
alone or do something outside by themselves, like golf guys, Like,
look at what you're doing here. You're you're you're brushing
off and like you said, Eric, is because of the money, right,
(44:36):
you're brushing off rules about guns and and hey, listen,
add that maturity level to buying a gun. Put that
as one of the levels as to whether someone can
buy a gun, as opposed to we're making a law
as to the age that people can kids can play outside.
Because a lot of people are calling in, but let
me push back on this. Okay, So the people that
are committing crimes and doing things, are you saying that
(44:59):
these are people that are in states that got guns legally? No, no, no, no,
I'm not saying so that. But but that's but but
that's the you're inferring that, And what I'm saying to
you is the pushback on that is, hey, I'm a
regular citizen and criminals can get guns willie nilly, Yeah,
(45:19):
I don't think. But then but then then they shouldn't
be brought up in the same context. So maybe what
I should have said was I think as far as
gun technology, they should be focusing on that, which is
what you said. They should be focusing on that because
there are people that are not mature enough to have
what they're being given or what they're getting access to,
(45:40):
or what we're giving them, what we're putting out there.
But but it's so weird how we want like we're like,
we're we're wondering why criminals act like criminals, you know
what I mean? Like it's like, why aren't criminals making sense? What?
You know what I mean? Like, that's the that's the
thought process when you know, like's like, I don't care
that they're if there's a state that's allowing people to
(46:01):
get guns, they were allowing that because criminals can get guns,
and then we're stopping regular people from getting guns. Now, Listen,
there's a lot of gun related accidents that happen because
people just aren't prepared. Like I say, like you have
to take a driving test to get a to get
a license. You know, you have to go down to
the d m V, get in a car with somebody
who's got a clipboard, and you have to prove that
(46:22):
you can drive a car okay, because it's dangerous because
if you're on the street, you could actually hurt someone,
hurt yourself, hurt someone else. That's what we need to
add to the gun process. You know, you need to
have insurance. You should you have to have insurance to
have a gun. You should have to have take a
test to have a gun. You should have to prove
that you know how to handle a gun before they
give you a gun. I mean, these are the things
we need to be talking about, you know, other than
(46:44):
just like hey take guns away or why are they
allowing people to get guns? I mean, I mean, it
is what it is. I mean, it's you know, you
know what I mean. You know you know what I'm saying.
But it's like, but my main point about in the
reference to this discussion is stop. We need to stop
trying to have rules for criminals and wonder why they're
(47:04):
breaking these rules and wonder why they're doing what they're
doing or how why they're not breaking rules and they're
not criminals. Yeah, we need to have the rules in place,
but yes, I get that, but it's what I'm saying,
We're we're hoping that they have better intentions or you know,
it's like why did you know? It's like you know
it is what it is. You know, It's like there's
plenty of like the person you shouldn't be worried about
(47:24):
is not the gun nut is not the person you
should be worried about. I don't know if you've ever
met a gun nut or somebody that's super into guns,
like there you know, and they're like they're super into safety.
Like a gun nut is somebody that's like they know
everything about the gun. They got it locked up in
their little cabin and they're like, oh, let me show
you this gun. This is like a are blah blah blah,
and they're like that, and that's you know, those aren't
like that person also could go crazy, but that has
(47:47):
nothing to do with them having access to guns. That
has to do more about like what's going on with
people's mental health, what's going on in like you know, society,
what's going on, and you know, well, of the two
guys I dated who owned guns, one of them was
a gun nut and he has it locked in a
case where you need to use your fingerprint to open
the case, which I actually liked because it made me
(48:09):
feel safer. But then the other guy, we'll just say
he did pick me up and only let me know
that he was on shrooms while driving halfway to the movies,
and then on the way home showed me both of
his guns in the car. He was like, check the
glove compartment. Then I opened. I was like ah, and
then he was like check the center console and I
(48:29):
was like ah, and then I moved because I was
scared he knew where I lived. Anyway, I'm fine, yeah,
but that's somebody that's like, you know, yeah, I went
on a date with the Yeah, Eric's like bad choices.
Then I'm like, I went on a date with a
(48:49):
DJ and U And it's so funny because I was like, oh,
he seemed nice, and then I was like, he did
give me drugs at the end of the date, but
there were shrooms, So, you know, just another l a
day in the books. We did go for a hike
as well, if you were curious, you and your hikes.
You know, I gotta get I gotta get a two
for a day and workout like it think better than
(49:15):
dating someone at the gym, are going to the gym together.
So I'll give you that. I you know what I
hate workout couples, you know what i mean. You know
those couples that are just like they're always in sweatsuits
and you see them that they're walking and they're like,
hey guys, and they're like, what are you guys doing?
You're just like cof you know what i mean. They
have their nalgeans. You're like, yeah, they're just a plastic
(49:38):
water bottle like the rest of us. You know, they're
always on their bike. You know, their their honeymoon was
like a twenty six mile marathon. Like one of those
type of couples. I'm just like, get away from me. Yeah,
you and your abs, get the out of here. Yeah exactly.
Now I'm the opposite. I'm like when my wife's like
I'm gonna go for a run, I'm like, okay, you go,
and then when you come back, I'll go like, I
don't know, we don't need to be running next to
(49:59):
each other. Yeah, well do you You don't sleep next
to each other either, Oh, are you supposed to do that? Yeah,
this would be a problem to me. Say that feels better,
doesn't it, because you know what it is is you
taking accountability of your own opinion. That's the thing about it.
Take accountability for your opinion. Make it yours, don't make
(50:21):
it something that you need people to say a men to. Well,
and that's it. Everybody judges. So if I had said that, right,
I don't. I don't like to go jogging at the
same time like my wife and I don't like to
run together someone. But well, that's not a healthy relationship
to your exactly, thank you, Because then what people do
is go, oh, this person isn't in a healthy relationship.
They don't know the context, they don't know the nuance,
(50:43):
they don't know the details of your relationship. They just
made a statement and they want to make it true.
It's like you, you know, that's what i'd say to that,
and that and that's how and I think that that's how.
I think the slap is waking us up to that fact.
To you. Yeah, and ladies and gentlemen, that's the podcast today. Eric,
(51:09):
where can we find you on the internet, Like they're
not the weird stuff, just social Yeah, we don't want
to know where the sex tapes are, just you know,
your content whatever. But you can find me at you know,
Eric Griffin dot com. You know what I mean, that's
(51:29):
that's Eric with k people. Yeah, that this I feel
about Leyah. Sometimes the amount of times Eric has called
me a nightmare is I mean, I can't even count.
I don't. I mean, I can't count that high. But
you can find me at Eric Griffin r I K
G R I F F I N at Eric Griffin.
And then I'm also on Twitch a lot, Eric Griffin Gaming,
(51:52):
and you know, I'm like on Twitch, I'm sorrying on Twitter,
Instagram is at Eric Griffin, Snapchat at Eric Griffin. I'm
twitching just thinking about watching you on Twitch. Yeah, well
you can come watch me on Twitch. You know what
I mean. I'm good, Thank you so much. Sounds really
fun to you. Now. Now she's gonna be a nightmare
(52:13):
with this, She's what I'm saying. You know, it's just
this is this is oh my god, you get it.
It's when you get any toy. Yeah, this is why
we she can't have nice things. Wait to you. You're
supposed to be on my team? Yes, right, Um, this
is why she can't have nice boyfriends. People. You can
(52:35):
find me on the internet at Leo lamar l e
h l A M A r R and on TikTok
with five ours again. We don't know why, it's just
like that sometimes Twitter lamar five h Yeah. And um,
you know, guys, you know you can call in live.
(52:56):
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(53:16):
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