On Today's EpisodeFlex Tape to the Rescue? [00:00 - 07:12]After finding some damaged hoses, Dan prepared to do the repairs. One of his kids spoke up and recommended Flex Tape as the solution. The commercials are all over the place and they show Flex Tape solving problems in a miraculous fashion. But did it work in Dan's situation?Front Door Masterclass [07:12 - 30:24]Scott Hudgens, Manager of the Birmingham RepcoLite, is hosting a "Paint Your Front Door" Clinic in his store on Saturday, June 17. We sit down with him to discuss what the clinic looks like and to cover the info he'll be covering! Painting a front door is THE premier "boost-your-curb-appeal" project. If you want to make an impact and do it quickly and for very little expense, painting your front door is the answer!You Can't Do That: Recreational Fires [30:24 - 39:09]When it comes to recreational fires in the city, there are a few things you need to know....
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Well, good morning everybody. HappySaturday. Good morning Dan, Good morning,
Happy Saturday to you. You're listeningto the Repcolite Home improvement show sponsored
by Benjamin Moore. I'm Dan Hansen. I'm here with Dan Altina, and
we've got all kinds of stuff plannedat the end of the show. Dan,
You've got a segment that you pitchedto me that I think is pretty
funny. And all I want tosay is Dan looks me in the eye
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this morning and says, I wantto talk about prohibited activities on the radio.
Okay, that sounds great. Ihave no idea exactly where he's going.
We're going to hit that at theend of the show. Also in
the middle, I'm going to beplaying an interview that I recorded on the
road from our Birmingham Rep Colite andtalking to the manager of the Birmingham store
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there, Scott Hudgens. He's gota class that he's putting on all about
painting your front door and it's alot of great information. We're going to
promote that class for those of youout in that area who might like to
attend, but also for those ofyou who can't, We'll get you the
information so you can make that transformationon your home smoothly and fluidly the right
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way, fluidly. See what Idid there, Because it's paint. That's
a little bit right. Now,Let's talk about one of those um you
know, you hear the what isthe saying if something seems too good to
be true, it probably is right? Okay, it's that kind of a
thing, you know, one ofthose as seen on TV products. Here's
the deal. I've been working onmy sprinkler system, trying to make sure
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that everything is working just right now. Normally, I get it, get
it running for the year, theend ground sprinkling, and I just let
it go. It goes off atlike four in the morning. What's happening,
No idea? The yard stays sohere's hoping. Anyway, This year,
I decided, it's been so long, I better make sure everything's working.
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So I actually started looking at itin the daylight and found a few
sprinkler heads that I needed to repairand got those things fixed. But the
big thing that caught me is thatI've got this drip system for all the
window boxes, and about two yearsago I was digging to find where the
where the hoses are for that,and I found him when I sliced through
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one of them, all right,the shovel And so with the water spraying
everywhere, a couple of years ago, I got it all dried up and
duct taped it because I knew itwas meant to be temporary. But you
know how temporary fixes go. AndI've had that for a couple of years,
and every you know, I'm mowthe yard every I see it always
sitting there, and I think,wow, that has just really held up
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because the water boxes still get water. So I've assumed it's been a brilliant
fix, and you know, ducttape is amazing. Well, anyway,
in the midst of testing it duringthe daytime, I saw that line actually
kick on and water is spraying allover the place. More water is going
in the air and onto the noit's just fountaining into the yard. That's
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got to be repaired. So I'mlooking at it with one of my kids
and and he's looking at it,scratches his Chinney says, I think you
need flex tape. I said,what in the world is flex tape?
You don't watch TV. Don't watchTV. You told me about this.
There's some great commercials. They're sooh yeah. The pitchman is just very
enthusiastic. There's all different Flex productsand this guy, it's like he's the
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messiah of Flex, and it's alljust incredible. What this tape will do,
what this putty will do. Whatever. Yeah, I've gone and looked
at some of these commercials. I'msure everybody out there seeing them, so
I'm not going to spend a lotof time. But he's got a bucket
with a great big hole in it, and he rips off a piece of
Flex tape, this big, heavyrubberized tape and slaps it on the bucket,
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literally just slaps it and water splasheseverywhere, but then the leak is
sealed. Then they show you picturesof them putting it on interior plumbing pipes
that are leaking and it fixes everything. You know. From their website,
flex tape is this quote a powerfuladhesive with a thick, flexible rubberized backing
that conforms to virtually any shape andsurface, even underwater. Even underwater,
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it gets stronger with time and pressure, So the more pressure, the stronger
the stuff gets. Sounds like me. It's unique resistant, it's voc free,
it withstands extreme temperatures and weather conditions. It's for plumbing repairs, still
quoting from the website, steals outair and water. It's fast fixes on
boats, autos, RV's autos,take your tigers back on. It's fast
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roof repairs, pool repairs, onand on and on. It's a miracle.
Yeah. The man has even cutlike a boat in half, literally
a rowboat. He cut it inhalf, taped it back together with flex
tape, gets out on the lakewith it. Oh and it's absolutely no
water at all. So the kidstell me I need to use flex tape,
and I don't remember if they snickeredor not. Oh they were yesh.
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I bought it hook line and sinker. So I went to the Star
and dropped some heavy coin for orangeflex tape. It's about seventeen bucks for
this little roll. But I wenthome thinking I'm going to do this as
a segment on the radio. I'mgoing to test it myself and see what
I get. So I cut allthe duct tape off of this damaged hoseline
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that I've got, and I finda pretty severe gash, you know,
a one inch gash or so fromthe from the shovel and get it all
cleaned up, and apply the flextape in the appropriate manner by slapping it
on. Oh yeah, I slappedit on really hard and pressed it all
down tight, got the air bubblesout. I did everything right. I
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had Andrew hit the sprinklers, turnthem on, and water sprays everywhere.
I mean, it's like there's notape on it at all. Maybe it
stopped it for a split second,and then it shoots out of the side.
So I thought, okay, Ineed more. That's what's store back
to the right. More money onthe counter, and I wrap much more
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of the hose with that still leaking. So then I fixed the host the
right way, and I thought,I'm still got some extra flex tape.
I'm going to at least patch agarden host that I've got that's got a
little pin prick hole in finey littlehole, No big deal, Slap the
flex tape on there again, schmack, and turn the hose on. Water
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sprays everywhere. I don't understand flextape. I don't know where you would
use it. It's expensive. Ithink it does certain things well. It
does not handle pressure. It doesnot get stronger pressure. So I'm trying
to save everybody a little money.I'm sure there are places where this might
work just fine, and you know, emergency situations. I can see that
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maybe that's something to have around,but it's from Mike what I've seen.
It's going to be a really temporaryfix and you're gonna want to proceed to
the actual fix something a little better. If you've had great success with flex
tape or really any of those flexproducts, I'd really like to know about
it. You can email me atradio at Repcalite dot com. Let me
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know what you did, how itworked, and if it really worked well,
I'll share it with the people outthere. All right, it's time
for break. When we come back, we'll be talking to Scott Hudgins from
the Birmingham Repcollite about front doors,everything you need to know to make yours
look great. That's all next.Stick around and we're back. You're listening
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to the Repcollite Home Improvement Show sponsoredby Benjamin Moore. I'm Dan Hansen and
right now I'm on location in Birminghamwith Scott Hudgins, the manager of our
Birmingham Rep Collite. Scott, I'mso so glad to have you guys here.
Yeah, thanks for letting us comehere. So if it sounds a
little different, we're not in ournormal studio. We're in Scott's office.
And what is this. It's likea five by five closet. It literally
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is just a closet. Yeah,it's pretty pretty tight. But we're all
packed in here, and yes,Scott, it's kind of exciting. We
haven't talked to anybody from our newacquisition, you know, all the stores.
We've talked about it on the radio. We've acquired the Technicolor Paint stores
back in January, and we've beengreat just making the transition. How has
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it been, I mean, whathave you felt? You know, everything's
been great. I mean everyone's beenreally nice and and it seems like the
customers have been extremely receptive. Uhand and everybody's excited about it. So
Technical or Paints. You guys havebeen around for twenty five Yeah about just
just just over twenty five years.I've been here for a long time.
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I've only been here just over eightmyself, but uh so, so it's
been around. I mean, youknow, people know, people knew us,
and I think it was really importantto uh have us still be here
with this transition and I think everyoneis so happy about us, Like they're
like, oh, are you guysgetting like bumps in pay or how's your
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benefits and all that, and we'relike it's all good, and like that's
that's great. The bumps in payhave had to cover the repical like Home
Improvement show and the stars of thatshow. But other than that, it's
worth it though, right, It'sworth it for you to take a cut
so I can live bigger. Everybody. Everybody's happy. Yeah, awesome,
No works I about that. Andone of the things that you have been
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doing, you've run one already.You do these in store clinics. And
this is kind of a youth thing, right, this is something you dreamed
up. It's um, it's itwas really something that uh, I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna lie to you. You know, I've been around for
such a long time. I workedat Builder Square and Home Depot and all
that stuff, and I knew thatthe biggest thing that a lot of those
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stores did and did very well,was was doing these all the time clinics.
You knew that you could go ona said date at said time and
be able to learn how to dosomething, and it was really important for
me to do that. Regardless ofif other stores followed suit or not,
I knew that that was what Iwanted to do. I wanted to be
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more involved with the community and showingthem that we're their hometown paint store.
And you've done a few of them. You've done some in the past as
well. I mean, okay,for COVID, I mean that I was
doing at least a couple of months. Uh, and and we had uh
it's it's been very very uh.There's been a lot of people that would
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show up, okay, and andit would be something anywhere from a particular
line of paint to um to learninghow to do something in particular like trim
or doors or what. Okay,So you just did a kid's clinic where
they painted planters for Mother's Day,right, They had these little dog planters.
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H that it was just something II got these ceramic things that last
time we did it, it wasit was a little ceramic bank. Okay,
but we had kids involved, andit was very exciting to see all
the parents that would be on boardwith that. There was it was m
of course, it would always belike surrounding Mother's Day, so kind of
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hinted that maybe this is something youwould give the mom or they would keep
for themselves. But you know,the last this last time we did it,
and then the time before or wehad anywhere from eight to ten kids
show up and it was just agreat time and they all had a good
time. Yeah, you ran thaton a Saturday, right, ye sep
hour or something like that, Ye, eleven o'clock on Saturdays. And that's
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kind of what we're doing with ourclinics in general, is Saturdays at about
eleven o'clock. That kind of getsit right out of prime time for people
and and not too early, nottoo late. So I'm talking to Scott
Hudgins, the manager of the BirminghamRepco Lights store on the east side of
the state, talking about these clinicsthat you're doing, you know, teaching
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people how to do stuff. You'vegot one coming up in June June seventeen.
June seventeenth, again on a Saturday, on a Saturday, and you're
going to be covering front doors.We're doing a front door. Yeah.
So I think that that's what we'regoing to talk about the rest of this
time is not just the clinic.We'll let people know the details. So
if they're on the east side ofthe state, they want to stop out,
you know, make arrangements, theycan do that. But we're going
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to actually walk through the clinic thekind of stuff that you'd be doing and
talking about. Because the front door, I mean, really, when you
talk about exterior projects curb appeal projects, Yes, there are bigger ones.
You could paint the house, butthat's an enormous project compared to a front
door. Front door, you're talkinga quart a paint, maybe some primary
if you need it, what acouple hours, depending on how many coats
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you gotta put in, how theweather was working with you. But the
impact of that that just that alone, absolutely, that's something that's going to
be a wow factor in your homeand give you that curb appeal. A
lot of people like to go boldon their doors, and that's kind of
what we're going to show that youdon't have to necessarily keep a white or
a brown door. We can gored, we can go green, we
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can go blue. All right,so let's talk about the project. Somebody's
got a front door, you know, how do you approach this in your
clinic? How do you walk themthrough because prep can vary based on situations,
and I guess just walk us throughthe whole thing. So we're starting
off with a steel door. Wehave a display steel door here in the
store. We've painted it in thepast. We're going to go ahead and
do some prep and painted again.So it's been painted before and it's probably
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covered over with layers and layers andlayers. Right, it's correct. Yes,
Okay, it takes twelve people tomove the door because of all that
extra shifted around, right. Um. No, The thing is that we're
going to start things off by byasking people what kind of doors that they're
interested in. Whether it be asteel door, whether it be a wood
door. It could be a fiberglassdoor. I mean, who knows.
But ultimately we're going to kind oftouch upon every aspect of those doors.
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Even though I have the steel doordisplay in the store, we're going to
talk about the wood doors. We'regoing to talk about the fact that if
you got rot or if you gotdamage, and how to go about actually
repairing that prior to all the prep. We all know eighty twenty right,
eighty percent prep, twenty percent paint. So um, that's kind of we're
going to go through that process aspeople as questions. Well, I'm going
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to ask a question. Let's talkabout a wood door. I've got a
wood door. Maybe I'm not evensure if I've got rot. Help me
understand what am I looking for forthe listeners out there who are sitting in
that situation, who can make theclinic. So, if it's a situation
where you have a brand new doorand hasn't been painted before, obviously we're
talking a lot of ease there.We're just talking about a matter of making
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sure it's clean, primed, andpainted. But if you're dealing with an
old door that's already been painted oreven stained before. If you know that
right on the bottom, right wherethe door hits that ground, and you
know that all the salt that getsspecially in Michigan salt gets kicked up,
the water that starts to damage therot that's going to happen even on the
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bottom edge, that's something that you'regoing to have to try and repair prior
to So in a wood door situation, you have to look for areas where
you're either dealing with an old finishand if there's any deterioration, especially towards
the bottom of that door. You'relooking for soft areas. You're looking for
areas that are obviously chunked out androtted and pieced, and you got to
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take care of that. So theprep for something like that, if that's
where we're going with it, wouldwould generally be UM. We have a
lot of products that we sell andand UH competing products like Bondo and Abbatron
products that that talk about rot repairuh and and fixing that and it's really
important. So they actually have aproduct that we sell. Abatron makes a
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UH it's it's a rot fix,is what it is. It's a it's
a liquid uh rot hardener. UM. So what you're gonna do is you're
gonna clean up the most that youcan UH and you're gonna get all the
loose off as much as possible.You're going to make sure that that door
is dry. That's the key withany wood surface is that if it's rained,
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if you've washed it, if you'vedone all this, UM, you
need to wait at least three days. You got to wait for that door
to dry, which sometimes can bea problem. It's supposed to rain today.
UM. But But with that beingsaid, as long as you've got
a dry area, whether you takethe door off the hinges and putting in
the garage maybe, Um, there'sa lot of options. But you're gonna
go ahead and use this rot hardenerum and it's going to uh solid a
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by that that those those soft areas. So now you got a solid bond
and then you go ahead and youpatch and then you're gonna prime and yeah,
so many different things. You know, that's just a wooddoor. A
lot of people. You know,what do you see on the east side
of the state, is there up? Well, it's most common. Yeah,
if we're if we're in Birmingham,you're actually seeing a lot of wood
doors. But but with that beingsaid, you know a lot of the
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new doors are made to look likewood, so they actually have steel doors
that look like wood. They havefiberglass doors that are probably you know the
top. You've got thermatrude doors andthings like that that are out there that
um really give you a wood lookand less maintenance and needing to worry about
rotting. And so I think justlike if somebody was to do a deck
and they're like the truck stuff andnot the real wood. It's it's handy.
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There's no doubt about it. Thethe the issue and the maintenance on
a door like that is going tobe a lot easier. Um, that's
what you see around here Birmingham West, Bloomfield even and some of the other
stores further east to gross Point.We have the location and and they have
really expensive old historical type of doors. So there's a lot of repair that.
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So a lot of different situations wecan help you get you know,
basically navigate whatever you've got going.You know, Okay, let's say we're
dealing with a pheromone of pealing andstuff like that or whatever. You know,
if it's been painted before, there'sgoing to be at least that's a
concern. You want to look atthat. You get that all cleaned up,
get as much off that's you know, everything that stays on the door
paint wise has to be really bonded. You have to make sure of that
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that's correct, get the doors reallycleaned. You're you're you're you're putting a
lot of trust in something. Anytimethat there's some cracks and some some peeling
in a in a in a surface, whether it be a top coat over
top of a stain or a paintitself. Um, you need to make
sure all that looses off. Ifyou don't, there's there's products on the
market that they sell peel stop andpeel bonders and and try and hold that
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in place, and those are greatand everything, but you still want to
get as much loose off as youcan because when you when you're also and
done, you want to be surethat you have a good bond to that
painted surface or even if you're restainingsomething. I mean, you know,
there's a lot more involved in doingthat. But we'll touch upon that as
well, because you know, somepeople want to keep that staying. Look,
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we can absolutely try and get themto that point too. Well,
let's do that. Let's take abreak right now because I can't cram any
more into this segment, So let'stake a break. I'm going to stay
in your office. Is that okay? Normally I'm asking people to stay with
me, but this time I'm intrudingon your territory. So I'm going to
hang out. We're gonna play somecommercials, and then the Detroit listeners,
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all the listeners on the east sideof the state are going to get a
rep. Collit rewind Grand Rapids listeners, You're going to get news and weather.
Then when all of that is over, we'll all get back together and
then we'll continue this conversation and workour way through what the prep steps are.
And then I want to talk aboutfinished coats, what you recommend,
and then I want to give outthe details of your seminar. All of
that's coming up. Just ahead,stick around and we're back. You're listening
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to the Repclite Home improvement show sponsoredby Benjamin Moore. I'm Dan Hanson and
I'm here. Well, yeah,I'm here. I'm visiting the Birmingham Repclite
on the east side of the state. I'm here with Scott Hudgins, the
manager over here. You've been inthe company eight years, well over eight
years, eight years. And Scott, as we mentioned in the last segment,
is doing are going to be hostingbasically a hands on clinic yea for
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listeners or customers in the area andthe east side of the state. It's
coming up. June seventeen, isyour next one. Yeah, front Doors,
front Doors, eleven o'clock on Saturday, June seventeenth. All right,
and now we know that not everybody'sgoing to be able to get out there,
you know, and even if everybodywanted to, the store will only
hold just so many people. Sowe want to give the information and kind
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of work our way through that.It's a complicated one because the project itself
is simple, but there's so manydifferent situations that could present themselves. Is
it a wood door, Do Ihave a stained in varnished door. Maybe
it's a fiberglass door, steel door, all these different situations, and you
kind of got to deal with that, and that's what you'll do in the
seminar. You'll gather where people areat and address the situation specifically. Yeah,
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obviously, these these clinics can lastupwards of two hours plus and and
you know, and that's perfectly fine. You know. Obviously we're there to
answer questions. So if somebody goesahead and ask a question that might take
me away from something else, we'restill going to make sure that everyone gets
the answers that they need. Soso in the last segment, we talked
about wood door, so I broughtthat up. What if there's some rot?
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You talked about all the different thingswe need to look into and figure
out before we move ahead with apainting project, and I'd really just recommend
you swing out to any rep Collitstore if you've got that situation and just
talk about it. But you didgive us some good spots to look down
at the bottom of the door.That's where your problems probably going to happen.
Let's talk about I guess let's justwork our way through the project,
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specifically for people who are listening sothey can follow along. But let's say
that it's to be a steel door, maybe a common situation. It's painted,
it's maybe peeling, maybe it's justjust a bad color. We want
to get that updated. Like wesaid, it's a great project, simple,
huge curb appeal. What would youwalk us through. Let's just start
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with that. So that's so,that's perfectly fine. I mean, so
we have a door in front ofus, for example, and this door
is painted, so you can beit can be many things. It can
be something that is they just wantto change the color of the door.
Maybe maybe the coating on the dooris perfectly sound and there's no problems there.
Maybe they're trying to redo and yeah, maintenance on the door. So
we're talking about the peeling aspects ofit. We're talking about priming. So
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yeah, if you've got a steeldoor that you have peeling, or maybe
maybe the coat that the last timeyou painted it it just didn't adhere well,
and you're noticing scratches, and underneaththose scratches as the color it was
before. I mean, those arethings that happen all the time. And
generally you're going to see that aroundhandles. You're going to see that around
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knocker on the door surface anytime whereyou decide that you have a bunch of
stuff in your hand and you're tryingto push the door open, and man,
you just scratch the door. It'sso really it's just boils down to
making sure that that is sanded.You want to make sure that that's that's
clean. A lot of oils endup on the surface, especially if you
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don't have a storm door. Yougot a lot of weathering to those surfaces,
so you gotta make sure it's cleanand sand down those areas that are
damaged. At that point, it'sa matter of okay, now, is
it just that or do we havea couple dents? Now, maybe somebody
kicked the door or whatever. Sothat's a different story too. And the
one thing that I always tell peopleall the time, and this goes for
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everything, and it's not just doors. Is the prime patch prime. So
when you have a situation on adoor to where it's dented, for example,
you can go ahead and the bestthing to do besides cleaning and sanding
is to prime that area. Youwant to prime the damaged area of the
dented area before where you patch.It's really important because people think that patching
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by itself will be fine, butI've seen so much of that patch just
pop loose, especially if you're ata on the east or west and you're
getting the sun directly on the doorover time. So you also want to
be careful with speaking of which thetime of day. You don't want to
have it be ninety degrees and thesun beating on a door because that paint
is not going to adhere properly tothat surface. So all these things you
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need to play a part in whenyou're when you're finishing your door, thinking
all that stuff through, making thoseplans. Again, stop out when you're
getting your product and we'll walk youthrough the projects step by step for your
scenario right now, that's the bestway to go with that. So we
get it prepped, we get weget it washed, we get it sanded,
everything's ready to go. To thepaint that's on there is bonded really
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well. We made sure of thateverything's good to go. At that point,
what finished paint do you recommend?So? What do you like best?
So? And we'll touch upon alittle bit. The reason why we're
painting the door that's in our storeand the reason why we're including this as
a clinic is because it was apaint that's no longer available and so at
that point, um we were switchingto. Aura is going to be an
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exterior Aura. We're going to doit in a satin finish. Aura is
the top of the line paint thatBenjamin Moore offers. Aura really is going
to get you the best. Thecolor retention on the Aura exterior paints are
phenomenal, and so that's really whywe're going to be using that in this
situation. Durability and color retention isphenomenal on it. So because that's a
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real bummer that really blows when youpick your color and you put it out
and then it fades so dramatically soquickly, and colors do certain colors do.
Aura is big that that's one ofits big claims to fame is the
color retention. Yep. And that'sand that's really the thing that we've seen
so many people have be frustrated becauseof that. And the good thing is,
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when we say this all the time, it's only paint. The good
thing about it is you can putanother coat on, But why would you
want to do that when you canjust go with the best and just do
the Aura straight out get it rightthe first time. So a couple of
coats, normally a couple of coatswould be great. I mean, the
more coach you put on, themore durable it is. Also just to
make sure, especially if you're goingfrom different colors from from let's say you're
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going from white to like a maroon, Uh, You're absolutely gonna need a
couple of coats. Well, Andthat's the other claim to fame for Aura
is that the hide is so good. Hide is awesome and there's a lot
of products, especially when we're talkingcertain front door colors where the more vivid,
the brighter, the boulder the color. You can be dealing with a
lot of coats in order to getfull hide, whereas Aura's going to give
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that to you in far fewer coats. That's correct. Yeah, the whole
thing is is we're gonna we're gonnachange it up. We had a we
had a maroon color on it before. We're gonna go with a with a
historical blue color on the door now, just to show people that, like
we talked about, that can beyour whole factor. That doesn't have to
it can stand and out. That'salways the exception. My big thing on
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the outside is you kind of wantto stick with three colors. The door
is always the exception to that.You can have the door be so bold
and stand out ish, if that'sa word. So that really is what
we're going for here, to showpeople that they have a lot of options,
a lot of options. The projectis relatively simple. There are some
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things to know to get it doneright, but they're not complicated things and
you don't need specialty tools. Imean, nothing about this project is out
of anybody's reach. Really, it'sit's not. And as long as you
take more time in prepping everything fromthe beginning, that really is the painting
is such the it's the easy partof this whole Well, like you said,
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it's an eighty twenty thing. Sometimeswe've refer to it as a ninety
ten you know how everyone It dependson the situation. But it's the prep
work is the time, and Iknow it's not fun. I know that
it's not fun rolling primer on becauseit's the it's not the color I want
to end up with. I wantto see that color on the wall that's
or the door or the surface.But you gotta just bide your time,
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do the proper prep work, becauseif you move past and get your paint
on, you could buy the bestpaint ever. And if you haven't done
that prep work, you're going tobe dealing with problems down the road and
it's going to be a regret you'reyou're always going to have. And just
keep in mind too that anytime youcome into the store, or if you
happen to be here on June seventeenthat eleven, we're going to talk about
other things that we can do,obviously to make this an easier project for
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you. We'll help you pick outthe rollers and the brushes that you need.
We'll talk about the possibility of maybeeven tinting a primer to get you
at least in the ballpark, soit's not going from a dramatic white to
a dark gray, you know.So we'll talk about those options, anything
that we can do to try andhelp you make this process easier, even
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if you have to call the storein the middle and ask me. I'm
there to answer questions. And that'sgoing to work that way for all of
the Rep Collit locations on the westside, on the east side, anywhere.
Give us a call, stop outat the stores. We'll walk you
through the different projects, whether it'sfront doors, whether it's whatever, and
get you all of that information sothat you're using the right tools, the
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right products, and doing it allwith the right steps. Scott, the
last little bit that we've got theseminar or the hands on clinic. I
keep calling it a seminar. Youkeep calling it a clinic. I don't
know. It's tomato tomato. Wellit's your it's your thing, so we'll
go with clinic. It's coming upJune seventeen. We mentioned that at eleven
at the Birmingham Rep Collit. Ifpeople are interested in they're in the area,
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do they have to register? Howdoes that part work? You know
what I mean. I'm trying tokeep it open everybody. You know,
if you feel like you got toin the last minute, We'll still accommodate
you, obviously. Bran. Ofcourse, if you come into the store,
you can always go ahead and wehave a sign in sheet for you
to make sure that you're set forthat day. You can always call the
store and say, hey, listen, I want to come to your clinic,
you know, put my name down. We'll go ahead and do that.
Keep in mind, we're gonna everytime we have the clinics that we
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here, we're always going to havesome light refreshments. We'll have some we'll
have some small snacks, and ifit's a nice day at eleven o'clock on
a Saturday, we're going to gooutside and we're gonna do this, you
know, because you're going to probablybe in that situation anyway. Why do
you want to be cooped up ina store when you can be outside in
the fresh weather so perfect. SoI'll put links in all of that information
in our show notes. And theonly other thing I'll add is if you're
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a listener and you're thinking, boy, that sounds good, I'd really like
that, But it's two and ahalf hours away from where I live,
and I'm not interested in the drive. If you are interested in something like
that, email Radio at repco Lightdot com. That's going to come directly
to me and just let me knowthat you're interested in some of these things.
And if we get enough people,who knows, maybe we'll put on
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a few of these of our ownin other repc Light locations. So the
more the merrier, absolutely so,Radio at repclit dot com. If you're
interested in more seminars like this inyour area, let me know. Maybe
we can do that. Scott thinksso much for letting us be here.
Thanks so much for doing this kindof thing for the customers out here.
I'm so happy for you to behere myself. Excellent. All right,
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we're gonna take a break right now. When we come back, we'll be
talking about something else, and honestly, I don't know at this point what
it's going to be, but Ican promise it's going to be amazing.
That's all. Just ahead, stickaround and we're back. You're listening to
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the repcal Light Home Improvement Show sponsoredby Benjamin Moore and with the different lead
in music a little hit from theBeatles. There. You can't do that,
Dan, you pitched a topic tome, and I think it's fun.
We're going to talk about it,kind of revive the segment as the
summer goes on. You wanted totalk about prohibited activities, and at first
that freaked me out because I wasn'tsure exactly where you were. I wasn't
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sure where you wanted to go,because I know you well enough to know
what really could be anything. Soanyway, prohibited activities, we spun it
down to you can't do that,certain things that you just can't do,
and we want to get into recreationalfires and the things you can't do,
and then of course the things youcan do and how you can have a
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safe and allowable recreational fire. Butjust to give people a little bit of
a preview of some of the otherthings you want to talk about. What
are some of the other areas youwant to focus on with you can't do
that all right? So one islawn darts also known jarts. You can't
buy them anymore. I mean youcan still use them if you have them,
if you found them in your basementor something like that, but you
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can't buy them. No. Iwas always always convinced I was going to
pin my feet to the ground outsideplaying some kind of game with those big
darts that you're chucking. Can't dothat. Another example might be drones.
You can't fly drone anywhere you want, right, there's limitations, right,
and those limitations have limited me.I've chosen not very interested in getting a
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drone. The photography aspect of it. I think that could be fun.
I could see my house from upin the sky. You know how exciting
is that? But I don't knowall the little rules, and so I
think that will be very interested.I'm not scared, Dan, I'm a
man's man, but I do trembles. Apprehensive. Apprehensive, let's say that.
And another one I think is interestingis prospecting, which is something I,
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you know, live to do.You know, I've always wanted to
be a prospector. You're going tofind goal on my property exactly? Well,
you just can't go haul your metaldetect her around everywhere you want,
digging holes all over the place.That part makes sense to me. But
we're going to dig into all ofthose things you can't get, and that
to see a joke. Let's talkabout recreational fires. Let's let's talk about
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things you can't do that maybe youmight think you can. You can't have
a giant bonfire just like ever orwithin limits could. Okay, So you
just can't go out and just havea big bonfire. You can't technically burn
like your yard waist. And Iunderstand leaves and stuff, but even the
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sticks and the twigs that fall fromthe trees, that's actually something all at
least most of the city ordinances thatwe looked at. Yeah, even green
lumber dry and not dried, abranch that just fell, and that's all
smoke related, right, yeahs.What other things can't we do? Well,
you can't have a big fire,like we said, you can't have
a fire too close to your homeor structure, offense or power line or
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property line. Wow. And nowall these regulations vary depending on your community.
Yeah, but there are some kindof commonalities most of this, in
fact, all of this is relatedto safety. It's common sense safety stuff
when you stop and think about it. Right, So yeah, mostly most
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communities say the fire cannot be largerthan three feet in diameter and two feet
tall, and it needs to bein some sort of enclosure, whether that's
like a stone ring or a metalvessel something to contain the fire, all
right, necessary, gotta have afire pit of some sort. I can't
just throw it out there on theyard, right, can't have it on
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a combustible service. You can't buildthis fire on a deck, a wooden
deck. Well, don't have goneit, Dan, that was the plan
for the weekend. I'm sorry tobe able to fire on the wood deck.
Okay, no, that makes sense. You can only use it for
personal uses like warmth, cooking,personal enjoyment, things along those lines.
So you can't. I don't knowwhat that would have. You know,
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metal smelting you can't do. Okay, I ask what other things I don't
I'm not quite sure. Yeah,but yeah, there's a lot of limitations
along those lines, things like thewhat you can burn. We talked about
that briefly. Basically just firewood,dried logs can't burn. Yard waste,
grass clippings, anything that's got glueor plastic or you know, tre ash.
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Any of that kind of stuff cannotbe burnt in a home fire pit.
Have you burned? Those things arein trouble? I was just curious.
I of course possible that I mayhave ye Now, after researching this
subject, I don't think I willanymore. All Right, So you're afraid,
No, I'm not afraid. I'mapprehensive. Okay, that's how dudes
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handle that. I know that you'vegot to watch the fire. You've got
to be there in attendance with anadult. And sometimes the regulations say it
has to be a somebody that's aresident of the home. All right,
So can't you just can't bring somebodyin and say, watch this fire for
a minute. I've got to goto the bathroom, right, not allowed
to do that? Maybe just fora minute so I can go to the
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bathroom. Could maybe get away withit for a minute. I mean they're
not watching that close. I hope. If they are, we've got other
problems to deal with. Right.You have to have some way of putting
out the fire that makes sense,you know, whether that's a hose that
functioning you know hose, or afire exting with sure or maybe even just
a bucket with sand and leaf blowersdo not work? Is that from experience?
No? No, I'm sure I'veseen something on YouTube where somebody tested
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that doesn't work. Maybe a heavywool blanket possibly if the garden poses too
far away, maybe that heavy woolblanket. But bottom line, you gotta
have something to put it out,and you got to have it on hand
because you know, we've had anincredibly dry spring. Yeah, control quickly,
yeah, crazy. Can only havethe fire in your backyard, not
in your front yard all right now, even if that's where I relax,
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Even if that's where I hang outto You're welcome to hang out yard,
just not have a fire. Why. I think it's just consideration of your
neighbors. And most of these ruleshave to do with is this fire going
to generate too much light or smokeor you know, smell. Is it
going to be a distraction or youknow, a nuisance to your neighbors.
But I could sunbathe on my frontyard, can you? I don't know,
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I'm asking, I don't know.Well, I guess we'll have to
look that one up. That wouldseem like that would take off of you
with those boxes that you talked aboutin distract action nauseation may not be allowed,
all right. Oh, that's worthlooking into. That could be a
segment someday. Yeah. So youknow, in some locations a permit is
required even for these small backyard firepit type fires. Right now, I
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grew up way out on the northside of Holland, and we would have
to get a burning permit to dothe big yard waste type things. You
know. At that point we couldstill burn leaves. I remember that.
That was always really fun, reallylike that. But we have to get
a burning permit. And you're notjust talking about that for big pits as
Grand Rapids. Even if you wantto have a recreational fire in a little
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fire pit, you still as longas it's like you're burning real wood.
If you've got propane or something likethat, right then need things. It's
a permit, but you need topermit in Grand Rapids and some other places
Lancing, Saginaw, Midland Portage.Those are just a few off the top
of my head that I found now. I know the Grand Rapids one.
If you're in Grand Rapids and youwant to have a recreational fire as the
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summer goes on, you want toget on that. Because it's not an
immediate process. It's literally a process. You submit for the permit. You
submit a request. There's a twentyone day period while they notify your neighbors.
They can submit objections to it.If no objections arise, then you
get the permit and you can renewthe whole thing next year. But it's
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not instantaneous, so get on itdefinitely. Yeah, in Lancing you have
to go and get a permit,I mean, get inspection. Oh so
it's even bigger over there. Bottomline. Check your local ordinances wherever you
live. There's rules, you know. I know in Zealand you've got to
have the fire done by ten o'clockon Sundays through Thursdays, for example,
So lots of little rules. Diginto it, do it the right way,
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do it the safe way. Havefun and that's yeah, have fun.
It's the very bottom of all ofthat. Try to have fun.
That's all the time we've got.We're gonna have to wrap this one up.
If you want to catch it again, you can find it online at
repcolit dot com. Whatever you dotoday, make sure paints a part of
it. We've got very few rulesor limitations on paint. Go out there
and use it as much as youwant. I'm Dan Hanson and I'm Danelle
Tmo. Thanks for listening.
Well, good morning everybody. HappySaturday. Good morning Dan, Good morning,
Happy Saturday to you. You're listeningto the Repcolite Home improvement show sponsored
by Benjamin Moore. I'm Dan Hansen. I'm here with Dan Altina, and
we've got all kinds of stuff plannedat the end of the show. Dan,
You've got a segment that you pitchedto me that I think is pretty
funny. And all I want tosay is Dan looks me in the eye
(00:25):
this morning and says, I wantto talk about prohibited activities on the radio.
Okay, that sounds great. Ihave no idea exactly where he's going.
We're going to hit that at theend of the show. Also in
the middle, I'm going to beplaying an interview that I recorded on the
road from our Birmingham Rep Colite andtalking to the manager of the Birmingham store
(00:46):
there, Scott Hudgens. He's gota class that he's putting on all about
painting your front door and it's alot of great information. We're going to
promote that class for those of youout in that area who might like to
attend, but also for those ofyou who can't, We'll get you the
information so you can make that transformationon your home smoothly and fluidly the right
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way, fluidly. See what Idid there, Because it's paint. That's
a little bit right. Now,Let's talk about one of those um you
know, you hear the what isthe saying if something seems too good to
be true, it probably is right? Okay, it's that kind of a
thing, you know, one ofthose as seen on TV products. Here's
the deal. I've been working onmy sprinkler system, trying to make sure
(01:30):
that everything is working just right now. Normally, I get it, get
it running for the year, theend ground sprinkling, and I just let
it go. It goes off atlike four in the morning. What's happening,
No idea? The yard stays sohere's hoping. Anyway, This year,
I decided, it's been so long, I better make sure everything's working.
(01:51):
So I actually started looking at itin the daylight and found a few
sprinkler heads that I needed to repairand got those things fixed. But the
big thing that caught me is thatI've got this drip system for all the
window boxes, and about two yearsago I was digging to find where the
where the hoses are for that,and I found him when I sliced through
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one of them, all right,the shovel And so with the water spraying
everywhere, a couple of years ago, I got it all dried up and
duct taped it because I knew itwas meant to be temporary. But you
know how temporary fixes go. AndI've had that for a couple of years,
and every you know, I'm mowthe yard every I see it always
sitting there, and I think,wow, that has just really held up
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because the water boxes still get water. So I've assumed it's been a brilliant
fix, and you know, ducttape is amazing. Well, anyway,
in the midst of testing it duringthe daytime, I saw that line actually
kick on and water is spraying allover the place. More water is going
in the air and onto the noit's just fountaining into the yard. That's
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got to be repaired. So I'mlooking at it with one of my kids
and and he's looking at it,scratches his Chinney says, I think you
need flex tape. I said,what in the world is flex tape?
You don't watch TV. Don't watchTV. You told me about this.
There's some great commercials. They're sooh yeah. The pitchman is just very
enthusiastic. There's all different Flex productsand this guy, it's like he's the
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messiah of Flex, and it's alljust incredible. What this tape will do,
what this putty will do. Whatever. Yeah, I've gone and looked
at some of these commercials. I'msure everybody out there seeing them, so
I'm not going to spend a lotof time. But he's got a bucket
with a great big hole in it, and he rips off a piece of
Flex tape, this big, heavyrubberized tape and slaps it on the bucket,
(03:37):
literally just slaps it and water splasheseverywhere, but then the leak is
sealed. Then they show you picturesof them putting it on interior plumbing pipes
that are leaking and it fixes everything. You know. From their website,
flex tape is this quote a powerfuladhesive with a thick, flexible rubberized backing
that conforms to virtually any shape andsurface, even underwater. Even underwater,
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it gets stronger with time and pressure, So the more pressure, the stronger
the stuff gets. Sounds like me. It's unique resistant, it's voc free,
it withstands extreme temperatures and weather conditions. It's for plumbing repairs, still
quoting from the website, steals outair and water. It's fast fixes on
boats, autos, RV's autos,take your tigers back on. It's fast
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roof repairs, pool repairs, onand on and on. It's a miracle.
Yeah. The man has even cutlike a boat in half, literally
a rowboat. He cut it inhalf, taped it back together with flex
tape, gets out on the lakewith it. Oh and it's absolutely no
water at all. So the kidstell me I need to use flex tape,
and I don't remember if they snickeredor not. Oh they were yesh.
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I bought it hook line and sinker. So I went to the Star
and dropped some heavy coin for orangeflex tape. It's about seventeen bucks for
this little roll. But I wenthome thinking I'm going to do this as
a segment on the radio. I'mgoing to test it myself and see what
I get. So I cut allthe duct tape off of this damaged hoseline
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that I've got, and I finda pretty severe gash, you know,
a one inch gash or so fromthe from the shovel and get it all
cleaned up, and apply the flextape in the appropriate manner by slapping it
on. Oh yeah, I slappedit on really hard and pressed it all
down tight, got the air bubblesout. I did everything right. I
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had Andrew hit the sprinklers, turnthem on, and water sprays everywhere.
I mean, it's like there's notape on it at all. Maybe it
stopped it for a split second,and then it shoots out of the side.
So I thought, okay, Ineed more. That's what's store back
to the right. More money onthe counter, and I wrap much more
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of the hose with that still leaking. So then I fixed the host the
right way, and I thought,I'm still got some extra flex tape.
I'm going to at least patch agarden host that I've got that's got a
little pin prick hole in finey littlehole, No big deal, Slap the
flex tape on there again, schmack, and turn the hose on. Water
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sprays everywhere. I don't understand flextape. I don't know where you would
use it. It's expensive. Ithink it does certain things well. It
does not handle pressure. It doesnot get stronger pressure. So I'm trying
to save everybody a little money.I'm sure there are places where this might
work just fine, and you know, emergency situations. I can see that
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maybe that's something to have around,but it's from Mike what I've seen.
It's going to be a really temporaryfix and you're gonna want to proceed to
the actual fix something a little better. If you've had great success with flex
tape or really any of those flexproducts, I'd really like to know about
it. You can email me atradio at Repcalite dot com. Let me
(06:53):
know what you did, how itworked, and if it really worked well,
I'll share it with the people outthere. All right, it's time
for break. When we come back, we'll be talking to Scott Hudgins from
the Birmingham Repcollite about front doors,everything you need to know to make yours
look great. That's all next.Stick around and we're back. You're listening
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to the Repcollite Home Improvement Show sponsoredby Benjamin Moore. I'm Dan Hansen and
right now I'm on location in Birminghamwith Scott Hudgins, the manager of our
Birmingham Rep Collite. Scott, I'mso so glad to have you guys here.
Yeah, thanks for letting us comehere. So if it sounds a
little different, we're not in ournormal studio. We're in Scott's office.
And what is this. It's likea five by five closet. It literally
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is just a closet. Yeah,it's pretty pretty tight. But we're all
packed in here, and yes,Scott, it's kind of exciting. We
haven't talked to anybody from our newacquisition, you know, all the stores.
We've talked about it on the radio. We've acquired the Technicolor Paint stores
back in January, and we've beengreat just making the transition. How has
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it been, I mean, whathave you felt? You know, everything's
been great. I mean everyone's beenreally nice and and it seems like the
customers have been extremely receptive. Uhand and everybody's excited about it. So
Technical or Paints. You guys havebeen around for twenty five Yeah about just
just just over twenty five years.I've been here for a long time.
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I've only been here just over eightmyself, but uh so, so it's
been around. I mean, youknow, people know, people knew us,
and I think it was really importantto uh have us still be here
with this transition and I think everyoneis so happy about us, Like they're
like, oh, are you guysgetting like bumps in pay or how's your
(08:39):
benefits and all that, and we'relike it's all good, and like that's
that's great. The bumps in payhave had to cover the repical like Home
Improvement show and the stars of thatshow. But other than that, it's
worth it though, right, It'sworth it for you to take a cut
so I can live bigger. Everybody. Everybody's happy. Yeah, awesome,
No works I about that. Andone of the things that you have been
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doing, you've run one already.You do these in store clinics. And
this is kind of a youth thing, right, this is something you dreamed
up. It's um, it's itwas really something that uh, I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna lie to you. You know, I've been around for
such a long time. I workedat Builder Square and Home Depot and all
that stuff, and I knew thatthe biggest thing that a lot of those
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stores did and did very well,was was doing these all the time clinics.
You knew that you could go ona said date at said time and
be able to learn how to dosomething, and it was really important for
me to do that. Regardless ofif other stores followed suit or not,
I knew that that was what Iwanted to do. I wanted to be
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more involved with the community and showingthem that we're their hometown paint store.
And you've done a few of them. You've done some in the past as
well. I mean, okay,for COVID, I mean that I was
doing at least a couple of months. Uh, and and we had uh
it's it's been very very uh.There's been a lot of people that would
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show up, okay, and andit would be something anywhere from a particular
line of paint to um to learninghow to do something in particular like trim
or doors or what. Okay,So you just did a kid's clinic where
they painted planters for Mother's Day,right, They had these little dog planters.
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H that it was just something II got these ceramic things that last
time we did it, it wasit was a little ceramic bank. Okay,
but we had kids involved, andit was very exciting to see all
the parents that would be on boardwith that. There was it was m
of course, it would always belike surrounding Mother's Day, so kind of
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hinted that maybe this is something youwould give the mom or they would keep
for themselves. But you know,the last this last time we did it,
and then the time before or wehad anywhere from eight to ten kids
show up and it was just agreat time and they all had a good
time. Yeah, you ran thaton a Saturday, right, ye sep
hour or something like that, Ye, eleven o'clock on Saturdays. And that's
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kind of what we're doing with ourclinics in general, is Saturdays at about
eleven o'clock. That kind of getsit right out of prime time for people
and and not too early, nottoo late. So I'm talking to Scott
Hudgins, the manager of the BirminghamRepco Lights store on the east side of
the state, talking about these clinicsthat you're doing, you know, teaching
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people how to do stuff. You'vegot one coming up in June June seventeen.
June seventeenth, again on a Saturday, on a Saturday, and you're
going to be covering front doors.We're doing a front door. Yeah.
So I think that that's what we'regoing to talk about the rest of this
time is not just the clinic.We'll let people know the details. So
if they're on the east side ofthe state, they want to stop out,
you know, make arrangements, theycan do that. But we're going
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to actually walk through the clinic thekind of stuff that you'd be doing and
talking about. Because the front door, I mean, really, when you
talk about exterior projects curb appeal projects, Yes, there are bigger ones.
You could paint the house, butthat's an enormous project compared to a front
door. Front door, you're talkinga quart a paint, maybe some primary
if you need it, what acouple hours, depending on how many coats
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you gotta put in, how theweather was working with you. But the
impact of that that just that alone, absolutely, that's something that's going to
be a wow factor in your homeand give you that curb appeal. A
lot of people like to go boldon their doors, and that's kind of
what we're going to show that youdon't have to necessarily keep a white or
a brown door. We can gored, we can go green, we
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can go blue. All right,so let's talk about the project. Somebody's
got a front door, you know, how do you approach this in your
clinic? How do you walk themthrough because prep can vary based on situations,
and I guess just walk us throughthe whole thing. So we're starting
off with a steel door. Wehave a display steel door here in the
store. We've painted it in thepast. We're going to go ahead and
do some prep and painted again.So it's been painted before and it's probably
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covered over with layers and layers andlayers. Right, it's correct. Yes,
Okay, it takes twelve people tomove the door because of all that
extra shifted around, right. Um. No, The thing is that we're
going to start things off by byasking people what kind of doors that they're
interested in. Whether it be asteel door, whether it be a wood
door. It could be a fiberglassdoor. I mean, who knows.
But ultimately we're going to kind oftouch upon every aspect of those doors.
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Even though I have the steel doordisplay in the store, we're going to
talk about the wood doors. We'regoing to talk about the fact that if
you got rot or if you gotdamage, and how to go about actually
repairing that prior to all the prep. We all know eighty twenty right,
eighty percent prep, twenty percent paint. So um, that's kind of we're
going to go through that process aspeople as questions. Well, I'm going
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to ask a question. Let's talkabout a wood door. I've got a
wood door. Maybe I'm not evensure if I've got rot. Help me
understand what am I looking for forthe listeners out there who are sitting in
that situation, who can make theclinic. So, if it's a situation
where you have a brand new doorand hasn't been painted before, obviously we're
talking a lot of ease there.We're just talking about a matter of making
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sure it's clean, primed, andpainted. But if you're dealing with an
old door that's already been painted oreven stained before. If you know that
right on the bottom, right wherethe door hits that ground, and you
know that all the salt that getsspecially in Michigan salt gets kicked up,
the water that starts to damage therot that's going to happen even on the
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bottom edge, that's something that you'regoing to have to try and repair prior
to So in a wood door situation, you have to look for areas where
you're either dealing with an old finishand if there's any deterioration, especially towards
the bottom of that door. You'relooking for soft areas. You're looking for
areas that are obviously chunked out androtted and pieced, and you got to
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take care of that. So theprep for something like that, if that's
where we're going with it, wouldwould generally be UM. We have a
lot of products that we sell andand UH competing products like Bondo and Abbatron
products that that talk about rot repairuh and and fixing that and it's really
important. So they actually have aproduct that we sell. Abatron makes a
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UH it's it's a rot fix,is what it is. It's a it's
a liquid uh rot hardener. UM. So what you're gonna do is you're
gonna clean up the most that youcan UH and you're gonna get all the
loose off as much as possible.You're going to make sure that that door
is dry. That's the key withany wood surface is that if it's rained,
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if you've washed it, if you'vedone all this, UM, you
need to wait at least three days. You got to wait for that door
to dry, which sometimes can bea problem. It's supposed to rain today.
UM. But But with that beingsaid, as long as you've got
a dry area, whether you takethe door off the hinges and putting in
the garage maybe, Um, there'sa lot of options. But you're gonna
go ahead and use this rot hardenerum and it's going to uh solid a
(16:00):
by that that those those soft areas. So now you got a solid bond
and then you go ahead and youpatch and then you're gonna prime and yeah,
so many different things. You know, that's just a wooddoor. A
lot of people. You know,what do you see on the east side
of the state, is there up? Well, it's most common. Yeah,
if we're if we're in Birmingham,you're actually seeing a lot of wood
doors. But but with that beingsaid, you know a lot of the
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new doors are made to look likewood, so they actually have steel doors
that look like wood. They havefiberglass doors that are probably you know the
top. You've got thermatrude doors andthings like that that are out there that
um really give you a wood lookand less maintenance and needing to worry about
rotting. And so I think justlike if somebody was to do a deck
and they're like the truck stuff andnot the real wood. It's it's handy.
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There's no doubt about it. Thethe the issue and the maintenance on
a door like that is going tobe a lot easier. Um, that's
what you see around here Birmingham West, Bloomfield even and some of the other
stores further east to gross Point.We have the location and and they have
really expensive old historical type of doors. So there's a lot of repair that.
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So a lot of different situations wecan help you get you know,
basically navigate whatever you've got going.You know, Okay, let's say we're
dealing with a pheromone of pealing andstuff like that or whatever. You know,
if it's been painted before, there'sgoing to be at least that's a
concern. You want to look atthat. You get that all cleaned up,
get as much off that's you know, everything that stays on the door
paint wise has to be really bonded. You have to make sure of that
(17:30):
that's correct, get the doors reallycleaned. You're you're you're you're putting a
lot of trust in something. Anytimethat there's some cracks and some some peeling
in a in a in a surface, whether it be a top coat over
top of a stain or a paintitself. Um, you need to make
sure all that looses off. Ifyou don't, there's there's products on the
market that they sell peel stop andpeel bonders and and try and hold that
(17:52):
in place, and those are greatand everything, but you still want to
get as much loose off as youcan because when you when you're also and
done, you want to be surethat you have a good bond to that
painted surface or even if you're restainingsomething. I mean, you know,
there's a lot more involved in doingthat. But we'll touch upon that as
well, because you know, somepeople want to keep that staying. Look,
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we can absolutely try and get themto that point too. Well,
let's do that. Let's take abreak right now because I can't cram any
more into this segment, So let'stake a break. I'm going to stay
in your office. Is that okay? Normally I'm asking people to stay with
me, but this time I'm intrudingon your territory. So I'm going to
hang out. We're gonna play somecommercials, and then the Detroit listeners,
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all the listeners on the east sideof the state are going to get a
rep. Collit rewind Grand Rapids listeners, You're going to get news and weather.
Then when all of that is over, we'll all get back together and
then we'll continue this conversation and workour way through what the prep steps are.
And then I want to talk aboutfinished coats, what you recommend,
and then I want to give outthe details of your seminar. All of
that's coming up. Just ahead,stick around and we're back. You're listening
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to the Repclite Home improvement show sponsoredby Benjamin Moore. I'm Dan Hanson and
I'm here. Well, yeah,I'm here. I'm visiting the Birmingham Repclite
on the east side of the state. I'm here with Scott Hudgins, the
manager over here. You've been inthe company eight years, well over eight
years, eight years. And Scott, as we mentioned in the last segment,
is doing are going to be hostingbasically a hands on clinic yea for
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listeners or customers in the area andthe east side of the state. It's
coming up. June seventeen, isyour next one. Yeah, front Doors,
front Doors, eleven o'clock on Saturday, June seventeenth. All right,
and now we know that not everybody'sgoing to be able to get out there,
you know, and even if everybodywanted to, the store will only
hold just so many people. Sowe want to give the information and kind
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of work our way through that.It's a complicated one because the project itself
is simple, but there's so manydifferent situations that could present themselves. Is
it a wood door, Do Ihave a stained in varnished door. Maybe
it's a fiberglass door, steel door, all these different situations, and you
kind of got to deal with that, and that's what you'll do in the
seminar. You'll gather where people areat and address the situation specifically. Yeah,
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obviously, these these clinics can lastupwards of two hours plus and and
you know, and that's perfectly fine. You know. Obviously we're there to
answer questions. So if somebody goesahead and ask a question that might take
me away from something else, we'restill going to make sure that everyone gets
the answers that they need. Soso in the last segment, we talked
about wood door, so I broughtthat up. What if there's some rot?
(20:33):
You talked about all the different thingswe need to look into and figure
out before we move ahead with apainting project, and I'd really just recommend
you swing out to any rep Collitstore if you've got that situation and just
talk about it. But you didgive us some good spots to look down
at the bottom of the door.That's where your problems probably going to happen.
Let's talk about I guess let's justwork our way through the project,
(20:55):
specifically for people who are listening sothey can follow along. But let's say
that it's to be a steel door, maybe a common situation. It's painted,
it's maybe peeling, maybe it's justjust a bad color. We want
to get that updated. Like wesaid, it's a great project, simple,
huge curb appeal. What would youwalk us through. Let's just start
(21:15):
with that. So that's so,that's perfectly fine. I mean, so
we have a door in front ofus, for example, and this door
is painted, so you can beit can be many things. It can
be something that is they just wantto change the color of the door.
Maybe maybe the coating on the dooris perfectly sound and there's no problems there.
Maybe they're trying to redo and yeah, maintenance on the door. So
we're talking about the peeling aspects ofit. We're talking about priming. So
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yeah, if you've got a steeldoor that you have peeling, or maybe
maybe the coat that the last timeyou painted it it just didn't adhere well,
and you're noticing scratches, and underneaththose scratches as the color it was
before. I mean, those arethings that happen all the time. And
generally you're going to see that aroundhandles. You're going to see that around
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knocker on the door surface anytime whereyou decide that you have a bunch of
stuff in your hand and you're tryingto push the door open, and man,
you just scratch the door. It'sso really it's just boils down to
making sure that that is sanded.You want to make sure that that's that's
clean. A lot of oils endup on the surface, especially if you
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don't have a storm door. Yougot a lot of weathering to those surfaces,
so you gotta make sure it's cleanand sand down those areas that are
damaged. At that point, it'sa matter of okay, now, is
it just that or do we havea couple dents? Now, maybe somebody
kicked the door or whatever. Sothat's a different story too. And the
one thing that I always tell peopleall the time, and this goes for
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everything, and it's not just doors. Is the prime patch prime. So
when you have a situation on adoor to where it's dented, for example,
you can go ahead and the bestthing to do besides cleaning and sanding
is to prime that area. Youwant to prime the damaged area of the
dented area before where you patch.It's really important because people think that patching
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by itself will be fine, butI've seen so much of that patch just
pop loose, especially if you're ata on the east or west and you're
getting the sun directly on the doorover time. So you also want to
be careful with speaking of which thetime of day. You don't want to
have it be ninety degrees and thesun beating on a door because that paint
is not going to adhere properly tothat surface. So all these things you
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need to play a part in whenyou're when you're finishing your door, thinking
all that stuff through, making thoseplans. Again, stop out when you're
getting your product and we'll walk youthrough the projects step by step for your
scenario right now, that's the bestway to go with that. So we
get it prepped, we get weget it washed, we get it sanded,
everything's ready to go. To thepaint that's on there is bonded really
(23:47):
well. We made sure of thateverything's good to go. At that point,
what finished paint do you recommend?So? What do you like best?
So? And we'll touch upon alittle bit. The reason why we're
painting the door that's in our storeand the reason why we're including this as
a clinic is because it was apaint that's no longer available and so at
that point, um we were switchingto. Aura is going to be an
(24:11):
exterior Aura. We're going to doit in a satin finish. Aura is
the top of the line paint thatBenjamin Moore offers. Aura really is going
to get you the best. Thecolor retention on the Aura exterior paints are
phenomenal, and so that's really whywe're going to be using that in this
situation. Durability and color retention isphenomenal on it. So because that's a
(24:32):
real bummer that really blows when youpick your color and you put it out
and then it fades so dramatically soquickly, and colors do certain colors do.
Aura is big that that's one ofits big claims to fame is the
color retention. Yep. And that'sand that's really the thing that we've seen
so many people have be frustrated becauseof that. And the good thing is,
(24:56):
when we say this all the time, it's only paint. The good
thing about it is you can putanother coat on, But why would you
want to do that when you canjust go with the best and just do
the Aura straight out get it rightthe first time. So a couple of
coats, normally a couple of coatswould be great. I mean, the
more coach you put on, themore durable it is. Also just to
make sure, especially if you're goingfrom different colors from from let's say you're
(25:17):
going from white to like a maroon, Uh, You're absolutely gonna need a
couple of coats. Well, Andthat's the other claim to fame for Aura
is that the hide is so good. Hide is awesome and there's a lot
of products, especially when we're talkingcertain front door colors where the more vivid,
the brighter, the boulder the color. You can be dealing with a
lot of coats in order to getfull hide, whereas Aura's going to give
(25:40):
that to you in far fewer coats. That's correct. Yeah, the whole
thing is is we're gonna we're gonnachange it up. We had a we
had a maroon color on it before. We're gonna go with a with a
historical blue color on the door now, just to show people that, like
we talked about, that can beyour whole factor. That doesn't have to
it can stand and out. That'salways the exception. My big thing on
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the outside is you kind of wantto stick with three colors. The door
is always the exception to that.You can have the door be so bold
and stand out ish, if that'sa word. So that really is what
we're going for here, to showpeople that they have a lot of options,
a lot of options. The projectis relatively simple. There are some
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things to know to get it doneright, but they're not complicated things and
you don't need specialty tools. Imean, nothing about this project is out
of anybody's reach. Really, it'sit's not. And as long as you
take more time in prepping everything fromthe beginning, that really is the painting
is such the it's the easy partof this whole Well, like you said,
(26:44):
it's an eighty twenty thing. Sometimeswe've refer to it as a ninety
ten you know how everyone It dependson the situation. But it's the prep
work is the time, and Iknow it's not fun. I know that
it's not fun rolling primer on becauseit's the it's not the color I want
to end up with. I wantto see that color on the wall that's
or the door or the surface.But you gotta just bide your time,
(27:07):
do the proper prep work, becauseif you move past and get your paint
on, you could buy the bestpaint ever. And if you haven't done
that prep work, you're going tobe dealing with problems down the road and
it's going to be a regret you'reyou're always going to have. And just
keep in mind too that anytime youcome into the store, or if you
happen to be here on June seventeenthat eleven, we're going to talk about
other things that we can do,obviously to make this an easier project for
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you. We'll help you pick outthe rollers and the brushes that you need.
We'll talk about the possibility of maybeeven tinting a primer to get you
at least in the ballpark, soit's not going from a dramatic white to
a dark gray, you know.So we'll talk about those options, anything
that we can do to try andhelp you make this process easier, even
(27:51):
if you have to call the storein the middle and ask me. I'm
there to answer questions. And that'sgoing to work that way for all of
the Rep Collit locations on the westside, on the east side, anywhere.
Give us a call, stop outat the stores. We'll walk you
through the different projects, whether it'sfront doors, whether it's whatever, and
get you all of that information sothat you're using the right tools, the
(28:12):
right products, and doing it allwith the right steps. Scott, the
last little bit that we've got theseminar or the hands on clinic. I
keep calling it a seminar. Youkeep calling it a clinic. I don't
know. It's tomato tomato. Wellit's your it's your thing, so we'll
go with clinic. It's coming upJune seventeen. We mentioned that at eleven
at the Birmingham Rep Collit. Ifpeople are interested in they're in the area,
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do they have to register? Howdoes that part work? You know
what I mean. I'm trying tokeep it open everybody. You know,
if you feel like you got toin the last minute, We'll still accommodate
you, obviously. Bran. Ofcourse, if you come into the store,
you can always go ahead and wehave a sign in sheet for you
to make sure that you're set forthat day. You can always call the
store and say, hey, listen, I want to come to your clinic,
you know, put my name down. We'll go ahead and do that.
Keep in mind, we're gonna everytime we have the clinics that we
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here, we're always going to havesome light refreshments. We'll have some we'll
have some small snacks, and ifit's a nice day at eleven o'clock on
a Saturday, we're going to gooutside and we're gonna do this, you
know, because you're going to probablybe in that situation anyway. Why do
you want to be cooped up ina store when you can be outside in
the fresh weather so perfect. SoI'll put links in all of that information
in our show notes. And theonly other thing I'll add is if you're
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a listener and you're thinking, boy, that sounds good, I'd really like
that, But it's two and ahalf hours away from where I live,
and I'm not interested in the drive. If you are interested in something like
that, email Radio at repco Lightdot com. That's going to come directly
to me and just let me knowthat you're interested in some of these things.
And if we get enough people,who knows, maybe we'll put on
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a few of these of our ownin other repc Light locations. So the
more the merrier, absolutely so,Radio at repclit dot com. If you're
interested in more seminars like this inyour area, let me know. Maybe
we can do that. Scott thinksso much for letting us be here.
Thanks so much for doing this kindof thing for the customers out here.
I'm so happy for you to behere myself. Excellent. All right,
(30:07):
we're gonna take a break right now. When we come back, we'll be
talking about something else, and honestly, I don't know at this point what
it's going to be, but Ican promise it's going to be amazing.
That's all. Just ahead, stickaround and we're back. You're listening to
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the repcal Light Home Improvement Show sponsoredby Benjamin Moore and with the different lead
in music a little hit from theBeatles. There. You can't do that,
Dan, you pitched a topic tome, and I think it's fun.
We're going to talk about it,kind of revive the segment as the
summer goes on. You wanted totalk about prohibited activities, and at first
that freaked me out because I wasn'tsure exactly where you were. I wasn't
(30:56):
sure where you wanted to go,because I know you well enough to know
what really could be anything. Soanyway, prohibited activities, we spun it
down to you can't do that,certain things that you just can't do,
and we want to get into recreationalfires and the things you can't do,
and then of course the things youcan do and how you can have a
(31:17):
safe and allowable recreational fire. Butjust to give people a little bit of
a preview of some of the otherthings you want to talk about. What
are some of the other areas youwant to focus on with you can't do
that all right? So one islawn darts also known jarts. You can't
buy them anymore. I mean youcan still use them if you have them,
if you found them in your basementor something like that, but you
(31:38):
can't buy them. No. Iwas always always convinced I was going to
pin my feet to the ground outsideplaying some kind of game with those big
darts that you're chucking. Can't dothat. Another example might be drones.
You can't fly drone anywhere you want, right, there's limitations, right,
and those limitations have limited me.I've chosen not very interested in getting a
(32:00):
drone. The photography aspect of it. I think that could be fun.
I could see my house from upin the sky. You know how exciting
is that? But I don't knowall the little rules, and so I
think that will be very interested.I'm not scared, Dan, I'm a
man's man, but I do trembles. Apprehensive. Apprehensive, let's say that.
And another one I think is interestingis prospecting, which is something I,
(32:22):
you know, live to do.You know, I've always wanted to
be a prospector. You're going tofind goal on my property exactly? Well,
you just can't go haul your metaldetect her around everywhere you want,
digging holes all over the place.That part makes sense to me. But
we're going to dig into all ofthose things you can't get, and that
to see a joke. Let's talkabout recreational fires. Let's let's talk about
(32:44):
things you can't do that maybe youmight think you can. You can't have
a giant bonfire just like ever orwithin limits could. Okay, So you
just can't go out and just havea big bonfire. You can't technically burn
like your yard waist. And Iunderstand leaves and stuff, but even the
(33:06):
sticks and the twigs that fall fromthe trees, that's actually something all at
least most of the city ordinances thatwe looked at. Yeah, even green
lumber dry and not dried, abranch that just fell, and that's all
smoke related, right, yeahs.What other things can't we do? Well,
you can't have a big fire,like we said, you can't have
a fire too close to your homeor structure, offense or power line or
(33:30):
property line. Wow. And nowall these regulations vary depending on your community.
Yeah, but there are some kindof commonalities most of this, in
fact, all of this is relatedto safety. It's common sense safety stuff
when you stop and think about it. Right, So yeah, mostly most
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communities say the fire cannot be largerthan three feet in diameter and two feet
tall, and it needs to bein some sort of enclosure, whether that's
like a stone ring or a metalvessel something to contain the fire, all
right, necessary, gotta have afire pit of some sort. I can't
just throw it out there on theyard, right, can't have it on
(34:12):
a combustible service. You can't buildthis fire on a deck, a wooden
deck. Well, don't have goneit, Dan, that was the plan
for the weekend. I'm sorry tobe able to fire on the wood deck.
Okay, no, that makes sense. You can only use it for
personal uses like warmth, cooking,personal enjoyment, things along those lines.
So you can't. I don't knowwhat that would have. You know,
(34:34):
metal smelting you can't do. Okay, I ask what other things I don't
I'm not quite sure. Yeah,but yeah, there's a lot of limitations
along those lines, things like thewhat you can burn. We talked about
that briefly. Basically just firewood,dried logs can't burn. Yard waste,
grass clippings, anything that's got glueor plastic or you know, tre ash.
(35:00):
Any of that kind of stuff cannotbe burnt in a home fire pit.
Have you burned? Those things arein trouble? I was just curious.
I of course possible that I mayhave ye Now, after researching this
subject, I don't think I willanymore. All Right, So you're afraid,
No, I'm not afraid. I'mapprehensive. Okay, that's how dudes
(35:22):
handle that. I know that you'vegot to watch the fire. You've got
to be there in attendance with anadult. And sometimes the regulations say it
has to be a somebody that's aresident of the home. All right,
So can't you just can't bring somebodyin and say, watch this fire for
a minute. I've got to goto the bathroom, right, not allowed
to do that? Maybe just fora minute so I can go to the
(35:42):
bathroom. Could maybe get away withit for a minute. I mean they're
not watching that close. I hope. If they are, we've got other
problems to deal with. Right.You have to have some way of putting
out the fire that makes sense,you know, whether that's a hose that
functioning you know hose, or afire exting with sure or maybe even just
a bucket with sand and leaf blowersdo not work? Is that from experience?
No? No, I'm sure I'veseen something on YouTube where somebody tested
(36:06):
that doesn't work. Maybe a heavywool blanket possibly if the garden poses too
far away, maybe that heavy woolblanket. But bottom line, you gotta
have something to put it out,and you got to have it on hand
because you know, we've had anincredibly dry spring. Yeah, control quickly,
yeah, crazy. Can only havethe fire in your backyard, not
in your front yard all right now, even if that's where I relax,
(36:30):
Even if that's where I hang outto You're welcome to hang out yard,
just not have a fire. Why. I think it's just consideration of your
neighbors. And most of these ruleshave to do with is this fire going
to generate too much light or smokeor you know, smell. Is it
going to be a distraction or youknow, a nuisance to your neighbors.
But I could sunbathe on my frontyard, can you? I don't know,
(36:52):
I'm asking, I don't know.Well, I guess we'll have to
look that one up. That wouldseem like that would take off of you
with those boxes that you talked aboutin distract action nauseation may not be allowed,
all right. Oh, that's worthlooking into. That could be a
segment someday. Yeah. So youknow, in some locations a permit is
required even for these small backyard firepit type fires. Right now, I
(37:14):
grew up way out on the northside of Holland, and we would have
to get a burning permit to dothe big yard waste type things. You
know. At that point we couldstill burn leaves. I remember that.
That was always really fun, reallylike that. But we have to get
a burning permit. And you're notjust talking about that for big pits as
Grand Rapids. Even if you wantto have a recreational fire in a little
(37:34):
fire pit, you still as longas it's like you're burning real wood.
If you've got propane or something likethat, right then need things. It's
a permit, but you need topermit in Grand Rapids and some other places
Lancing, Saginaw, Midland Portage.Those are just a few off the top
of my head that I found now. I know the Grand Rapids one.
If you're in Grand Rapids and youwant to have a recreational fire as the
(37:59):
summer goes on, you want toget on that. Because it's not an
immediate process. It's literally a process. You submit for the permit. You
submit a request. There's a twentyone day period while they notify your neighbors.
They can submit objections to it.If no objections arise, then you
get the permit and you can renewthe whole thing next year. But it's
(38:19):
not instantaneous, so get on itdefinitely. Yeah, in Lancing you have
to go and get a permit,I mean, get inspection. Oh so
it's even bigger over there. Bottomline. Check your local ordinances wherever you
live. There's rules, you know. I know in Zealand you've got to
have the fire done by ten o'clockon Sundays through Thursdays, for example,
So lots of little rules. Diginto it, do it the right way,
(38:42):
do it the safe way. Havefun and that's yeah, have fun.
It's the very bottom of all ofthat. Try to have fun.
That's all the time we've got.We're gonna have to wrap this one up.
If you want to catch it again, you can find it online at
repcolit dot com. Whatever you dotoday, make sure paints a part of
it. We've got very few rulesor limitations on paint. Go out there
and use it as much as youwant. I'm Dan Hanson and I'm Danelle
Tmo. Thanks for listening.
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