June 2, 2025 • 34 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Jon Caldera reflects on Boulder's lack of tolerance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm John Caldera and for Ryan, give me a call
three or three seven one, three, eight, two five five.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Boulder is my hometown.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I have spent many a drunken night from college on
on the Pearl Street mall. That spot in front of
the Boulder County Courthouse, the Old Courthouse is a traditional
place for people to bang drums, do their Buddhist chance,
listen to music, spout off poetry, and of course, yell
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about their political viewpoints, because what is Boulder without yelling
about your political viewpoints?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Older is an intolerant town.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I came to Colorado at the young age of like six,
it was like nineteen seventy. Been in Bolder since eighty four.
It's thirty years. Oh my lord, how is that possible?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Ninety five, two thousand and five, No, make that forty,
that's forty. Yeah, I thought I counted that wrong. Forty years.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Where did it go? That is so incredible? Anyway, And
I've found Boulder to be growingly intolerant, growingly hostile to
different points of view. Now, Boulder used to be liberal.
Boulder has been liberal ever since Watergate. After Watergate, Boulder's
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never had a Democratic congressman. It's always been leftist, but
it's been weird leftist. It was a tolerant type of
goofy liberalism. You had the Naropa Institute, which is a
Buddhist slash beatneck Alan Gintensburg helped found the institution in college,
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and then farther down the street you had the headquarters
of Soldier of Fortune magazine, founded by Colonel Bob Brown.
These two diametrically opposed groups lived in harmony on the
same street. It wasn't a deal. Bolder was weird, but
truly tolerant. And then it got less tolerant, and then
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less tolerant, and richer and less tolerant, more trust funders
and less tolerant people with money, less tolerant, whiter, whiter,
whiter and whiter. There's an inverse relationship to how many
white people are in Bolder to how many Black Lives
Matter signs they put out in their front yard. They
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say black lives matter, but they'll never stop their growth control,
which makes it so that people of color can never
afford to live in Bolder. Black lives matter as long
as they don't live here is Bolder. And then for
those of us who are gun owners, it was always
a tolerant place, and now it has open hostility to
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gun owners. Absolutely hateful, hateful. You are not welcome if
you're a gun owner. What about Catholics? Now? The Sacred
Heart Church downtown gets vandalized regularly by anti Catholic, in
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other words, pro abortion vandals.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, just a picture.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'm looking at it right now in the front door,
my body, my choice spray painted on the church doors.
Because that's bolder. Spend time looking at the next door media,
that is the social media nextdoor dot com, and you'll
see about how Tesla owners in Boulder are getting targeted
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by their name. Why because Elon musks mean, that's why
I'm bolder. You have to buy law on your tesla.
Get a sticker that says I bought this tesla before
he went insane. That means no, no, no, please don't
vandalize this tesla.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm actually one of you.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I bought it before I knew Elon was a Trump supporter,
or the one where they put the F in front
of Elon so it spells Felon.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Get it. That's bolder.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And bolder is let me ask you, I'm curious, is
bolder anti semitic? I think the country is turning anti Semitic,
and I never really thought about that. Being raised in Colorado,
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I knew nothing about about Jews in the Jewish faith.
By Judar was was not there. My Gaitar is okay,
but my Judar no, not so good. I remember going
out with my ex wife when we were married and
saw an old college buddy of mine and on the
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way back, I said, oh, wow, did you know Allan
Allan was Jewish? And my wife looked at me and said, really,
Alan Finkelstein, the accountant.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You just realized he was Jewish.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's like, oh why, why?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Why would I not?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because I was raised in Colorado. I wasn't raised in Brooklyn.
My best friend has a kid, Josh Cohen.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He was Jewish.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, as a kid, You're like, what, I don't care.
I don't understand anti Semitism. I don't get it. I
understand racial bigotry in that you look at somebody and
that person looks different. That person's Asian, we don't like them,
that person's black, brown, white, whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But the Jewish, the Jewish race is so different.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's not like you look at somebody going it's Jewish.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't get it if you're Jewish, I really want
to hear from you. Do you feel safe? Do you
feel it is getting less safe? Is it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is it not that you're Jewish? Is that if you
speak up.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
About Palestine, if you support Israel?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Is that the danger where you then feel like you
need to be careful?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Three or three seven to one three eight two five
five that's seven one three talk?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Is is it?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I mean? I love Phil Wiser on the news doing
the usual politician thing. We condemn any of that type
of hate, We condemn violence lovely. That's that's nice. That
is a beautiful platitude, and thank you. It's it's what
you have to say. You put a quarter in the machine.
The politician says, we condemn all acts of violence.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Very nice.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Wouldn't it be nicer if Phil Wiser said, you know what,
this is the kind of stuff that makes it clear
we have got.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
To support Israel.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
This is the kind of stuff that says we need
to make sure that America doesn't turn her back on.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Israel. Is that because that's what this issue is.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
This guy didn't go up there because he doesn't like Boulder.
He went up there to target Jews who are Zionists.
He yeld Free Palestine. He told the police he wanted
to make sure all Israelis died, that they died.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Doesn't that say something? Isn't that the issue? Let's see?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
According to Wall Street Journal, he quote wanted to kill
all Zionist people and wished they all were dead. It's
a beautiful thing about about a philosophy when you'll be
rewarded in the afterlife for killing people here?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What do you do with that? What do you do
with a.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
With a religion that says it's not your job even
to convert people, it's your job to kill them.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And if you die in the act.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Of killing them, you'll get even extra rewards in heaven,
and your family might.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Get extra rewards here in life.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I can't imagine, I can't imagine most Muslims in
America support this. But I'm not hearing. I'm not hearing
a chorus of condemnation. I'm not hearing I'm not hearing
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the mosques and the clerics in Denver screaming how bad
this was and how they support Zionism. No, they're not
going to do that, And where's Biden on this? What
I mean by that is this attacker had a bee
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to visa. That is the visa that normally is a
six month visitors visa. It's not for working, it's for tourism,
it's for relaxation. It's for seeing your family. That expired.
That expired in February of twenty twenty three, nearly two
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and a half years ago. The guy is in the
country illegally, and I'm still curious.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And if you know why, please tell me.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Why would he come up from Colorado Springs. Why did
the King Supers shooter come up from Westminster or wherever
he was. There were plenty of other King Supers. There
was something that drew him to Bolder. The unhinged go
to bowl. The truly unhinged run for city council. It's Bolder.
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The mayor of Boulder didn't make a comment for hours. Again,
didn't address the issue. Now, if the issue was apartheid,
they'd be all over it. This is what's so interesting.
Boulder loves getting involved in world affairs. When I was
in college, it was all about South Africa. How Boulder
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was going to change the world by removing any investments
it had in South Africa. So instead of spending time
and energy in city government doing something completely useless, like
I don't know, fixing the potholes or solving the crimes
or putting bad guys behind bars or getting the home
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us out. They spent time figuring out how they were
going to end apartheid in South Africa. Then they decided
they needed to get into the ending the arms race.
Then they needed to close down Rocky Flats, and then
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they needed to fight for gay marriage rights, and it
just kept going and going and going. They never wanted
to fix the potholes. They want to take away our
guns and solve world problems. So why are they so
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very quiet right now when this is a world issue.
This guy didn't scream free Thornton. This guy didn't scream
we need more tax break for electric vehicles. No, this
guy screamed free Palestine and admitted he wanted all Zionists dead.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The attacker said he did this because he hated this
group Run for their Lives as The group Run for
Their Lives is a group.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That gets together.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
As a protests a little parade. There's maybe twenty of them,
thirty of them every week, trying to bring attention to
the fact that Hamas still has all these Israelis they've
captured and are keeping hostage. That's not a bad thing.
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Why are they still holding these hostages? So our attacker
not only us agree.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That that Hamas is doing the right stuff, but.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Drove all the way up from Colorado Springs. All right,
if you're Jewish, tell me if you feel safe. Tell
me do you really feel safe? And where are the Muslims?
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If you're Muslim, I'd like you to call too.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I'm not seeing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Either one of you call because you're probably embarrassed about it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Three h three seven one.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Three eight two five five, says Norm MacDonald, the late
great Norm MacDonald, who tweeted what terrifies me is if
Isis were to detonate a nuclear device and kill fifty
million Americans, imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims. All right,
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peaceful Muslims, here's your opportunity. Tell me how you feel
about this. And I imagine if one did call three
h three seven one three eight two five five, the
answer would be something along the lines of we condemn
all this violence and Israel doesn't have a right to exist. Yeah.
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Found campuses like SEU where kids are taught to chant
silly things like from the river to the sea, Palestine
must be free. Now, like any other toddler who picks
up a nursery rhyme, they don't understand what it is.
They're saying, ring around the rosy, pocket full of posies, ashen,
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ashen all fall down. Yeah, that was about the.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Black plague, the Black death.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But as a toddler, you just you just say it
because people say it and you don't think about it.
While on the su campus you say things like from.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The river to the sea.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, if you look at a map, from the river
to the sea, that is the description of of Israel.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It is to destroy Israel. Now they don't say we
want to destroy Israel. I don't even know if.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The kids understand what they're saying when they chant that.
It's just part of the hate America therefore hate Israel.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
How much of that played in this?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
How much of this growing anti Israeli, growing pro Palestinian.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Attitude is going to cap off to more of this.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Keep in mind this is just days after the shooting
in Washington, DC of that beautiful young couple who worked
for the Israeli Consulate. They were gunned down at a
Jewish event. It's the same sort of thing out in DC.
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They were shot and killed while they were at something
that was a pro Palace, pro Israeli event.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
This every week, this group comes together.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And tries to draw attention to the Israelis still held
hostage by Hamas. Out there two people were just gunned down,
and in my backyard and Boulder eight people set ablaze
with molotov cocktails, which means, of course Boulder will start
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having some serious discussions about how to how to have
common sense molotov cocktail safety laws, and somebody will want
a study done on how much in greenhouse gases are
released whenever there's a molotov cocktail attack. And are there
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some sort of alternative environmentally my readily friendly alternatives to
molotov cocktails. I'm sure somebody will see you Boulders on
that right now, because that's what's important to Bold rights,
not setting jews on fire, but how can we set
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the Jews on fire in a way that is more
ecologically environmentally friendly three seven eight five seven one three
eight two five five or give me a text the
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we got a couple of good ones here, John. Remember
it's the Saturday people, and then the Sunday people all right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
As a gay legal citizen.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
This one, Tex says, North African weapon holding former worker
at Rocky Flats who loves Boulder.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I am shocked, shocked.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I say, but honestly, Mohammad has his rights.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
How about this one?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
If he had set gay and trans people on fire,
you would be calling him a hero.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's an ugly and false thing to say.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I have many gay friends, gay family members. Why would
why would anybody say that that's just weird. That's the
kind of stuff you get on the text line. But
they'll never call you up and say you'd like to
you'd like to set gay people on fire? No, but
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it is interesting as a thought experiment. What if it
wasn't What if it wasn't a group of Jews that
were set ablaze. What if it was an lgbt QIA
plus demonstration and someone through molotov cocktails at them? What
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would Boulder's reaction be? Why do I have a feeling
and I can't prove this, it would be very very different.
Why do I have a sense that the lgbt q
I A plus see I said it all community would
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be much more celebrated as victims than people who who
are keeping the ground from Palestinians. Am I wrong on
that one? I don't think so. Three or three seven, one,
three eight, two five five. Let's head out to Littleton.
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Talk to Justin.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Justin welcome. You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
He John, I'm going to hear you, Alivie, old Golden Davis,
a few Gunny Bob and Capitalists and Silverman.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh yeah, those were the days.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
They certainly were. I think you're the best show anyways.
But point you if I was Jewish. I'm not sun Catholic,
but if I was these days, what's happened in Governor
Shapiro's mantis the thing in Washington, DC? This, I mean,
that's like what in a two months span, and that's
the ones we hear about, which.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
One was government in Shapiro. I'm sorry I missed that
part the.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Guy firebombs the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Because oh, that's right, that's right, that's fliped my mind.
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, it happened so often it's becomes normal on us.
It's scary if I was Jewish, and I am implying
for CCW. Now the backlog is long, but I'll hopefully
get it soon. I would not go to any lay
and Jewish gathering without several people with guns. Can you
concealed carry and bolder? I know you can't at Denver?
Can you and bolder?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They're making it more and more difficult.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Colorado legislature, in their orgy of anti gun rights legislation,
has made it much more difficult to get a concealed
weapons permit. They've made it much more restrictive of where
you can use it, and they have given local governments
the right to ban where you can carry. The beautiful
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thing about being carrying concealed is nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I mean, I think I think about what happened in
what was at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs
several years back, when it was an a armed citizen
who stopped a multiple killer. The guy killed somebody here
up in Denver, went down to the New Life Church
started doing a killing spree, and oh, I'm blanking out
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on her name. I should remember it when she stopped
that mass shooter.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Or think of what happened in old.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Town police officer now just became Incustria.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, and it was I'm blacking out on that shot
that guy's name who stopped a mass shooter because he
was caring concealed. The police then misidentified him and shot him.
They shot the hero and said very clearly that the
man was a hero.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He stopped the shooter.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And I don't know why so many and I've never
understood why so many American Jews are progressive and why
they're liberals.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I've talked to many of my Jewish friends about it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
There's there's conflicting viewpoints on it, and I'm wildly, wildly
freaked out about how how many American Jews are anti gun.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I don't know how you could watch one half of your.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Of your race get this skilled and still be and
still be anti gun.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
If there's any any group that deserves.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
To protect themselves, you think it'd be the Jews around
the world.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
One percent agree, and that's why, in my opinion, he
didn't do in the Springs. Obviously, Alpaso County is a
lot different than Boulder County. And you know, my brother
also worked at the King Supers years before it got
shot up. I don't think we ever got a clear
inswer on that motive. And I know that there was
some talk of, you know, maybe there is a lot
of Jewish people shopping there and that could be a target,
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but I never really was explained that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And this is my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I have not much to back this up, but that
the prosecution really didn't want to go down to the
the Palestinian anti Israeli anti Jewish realm because they had
to fight this in front of a jury and a
judge in a town that quite simply is very very
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sympathetic to the other side, very sympathetic to the pro
Palestinian side of that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Argument, and it does us all the service that we
don't actually know. And I mean there was some evidence
from what I heard, not clear obviously, but a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
More points on this.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know, I lived in a Muslim country for a
few years, about ten years ago, in Nesia, Malaysia, that
sort of place. So you would call the more liberal
Muslim country where if you're western Ukean Baybooze.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, this is Indonesia. It's very diverse.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
There, I kind of or western for sure. I wouldn't
call it extremely diverse. You know, I lived at the town.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I guess I'm comparing it. I'm comparing it to around.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes, in that case, you're correct, you know, and people
speak English with a Dutch then you know, I don't
think it was ever British protectorate, but you know you
could live there, right. It's when we go around and
I remember the Benghazi attack or YouTube video got banned
in those countries quickly, and I was talking to my
co workers. Some of them were Chinese, some of them
were Bahasa Malaya, Bahasa Indonesia, you know, the locals, and
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I was just saying, you know, I think it's kind
of freedom of speech. Why can't we at least watch
the video here? Because I hadn't seen it and I
was curious. Obviously the video didn't start the riot, but
they banned it anyways. And to a tee, the reaction
of who I thought were very moderate, very moderate Muslims,
you know, no headdress, no they cover, nothing like that,
just you wouldn't know. And they're like, well, why would
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you ever say anything bad about the prophet? And it
took me back. I was like, you don't care about freedom?
Was the good Charlie Haven We can put Jesus Christ
crucifix in a bucket of peed? Didn't they do that
in New York? Says twenty thirty years ago and making
an exhibit.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Not only was it an exhibit, it was government sponsored.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That makes me even it was.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
The artwork was called piss Christ, and I believe it
it got some government funding. It is interesting. I worry
so much about this growing tolerance to stop speech that
it used to be, particularly liberals of all stripes that
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protected free speech. The whole idea of I disagree with
what you say, but I defend to my death your
right to say it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That that is gone now in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
The Transgendered Misgendering Bill is a prime example of speech control. Yeah,
this is kind of crap you'd see in China or
North Korea. As you said, even in Indonesia they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Let you see the video.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And as Americans, we think, well, not here, we don't
do that. We believe in free speech. No, apparently we don't.
The Colorado legislator and the governor just passed a new
law saying you don't have free speech when it comes
to this issue. You've got to look at a guy
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and address and call him her even though it's untrue,
and you have to say it otherwise you'll be guilty
of discrimination.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That does terrifying.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And it's not a trans issue, it's a speech issue.
And I keep wondering what happened to the good liberals,
what happened to the old ACLU American people for the
American Way, people who would fight for pornographers like Larry Flint,
who said, yeah, these these are not great people, but
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they have a right to say what they want to say.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Where are these people today?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They are hiding under their tables and under their desk
because they don't want to get canceled by the hardcore left.
And I see it right now in Colorado, even at
the state legislature, there's a brewing battle inside the leftist
camp between people who are Democrats and people who are
vicious socialists who have no tolerance and no sense of
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free speech.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I am very worried, and that's right.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I grew up here. Also went to see you lived
in Boulder. I mean many a knights that I can't
remember on per Street, I know right where that is
just a fun fact. That's where the Naked Pumpkin run
used to end up.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Oh, I love the Naked Pumpkin runer, you know that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
And talk about tolerance, they don't allow that. I'm more right,
what a great point in that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Priff on that for just a second.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
For those who don't know what we're talking about, Boulder
used to be silly. We had all these silly things
and the kind of things that gave spice to life.
We had the Kinetics, which were people would build these.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Crafts and the reservoir.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Most of them would sink and you're in costume, and
it was kind of a Mardi Gras esque type of thing.
We had the mall crawl during Halloween. We had the
Alfred Packard Days I Would See You, which were to
commemorate the states only convicted carnival carnivore excuse me, cannibal
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and he and you have raw meat eating contests.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It was just good stupidity. And among them was at midnight.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Midnight when all the kids were asleep, they had the
Naked Pumpkin Run and a bunch of bullde eyes would
get together streak with nothing but a pumpkin on their head,
wearing it like a like a football helmet. And one
year the no fun Nazis came out arrested them all,
giving some citations, and they all had to please bargained
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down to something else because if the charge would stick.
They would be on the sex offenders Registry for the
rest of their lives because they did something fun and
silly after dark. They all went streaking at midnight. Yeah,
so tolerance, This is bolder tolerance. There is no tolerance
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in Boulder.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well, John, let me just end with this. Where do
we go from here? We have to fight back, right,
I'm obviously more conservative and libertarian as well, probably take
a little bit after your viewpoints pretty similar. You know,
let the government of my business. I won't mess with
you to mess with me as long as that is
disturb We've been lacating this for way too long, in
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my opinion. We certainly have to fight back now. Am
I saying, print ten thousand pictures of Muhammad and bring
them up Pearl Street next week? I'm sunny at the
same time. No, Yeah, here's the difference.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
If you won't rip up a picture of Mohammed because
they will kill.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You, That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
There was a do you remember the Onion?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The Onion had an article after the Charlie Abdu issue,
and it was an orgy scene, a naked orgy scene
that I will not describe, that had every supreme being
you had. It had all the Krishna gods doing crazy
things to Abraham and Jesus was doing disgusting things to
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everybody else, and they were all they were all in
this really offensive picture.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But there.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And the headline of the story was no one killed
after the publishing of this picture because.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
There was not there was the Muslim God wasn't there.
Allah was not there.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And if Allah was in this offensive picture, well then
they would kill people.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I got to run.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Thanks for the call. Yeah, maybe that's why Boulder is
so pro Palestinian. They have the same level of tolerance
as many Muslims do. I'm John Calderic. Keep it right
here here on six point thirty.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
K ow.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Of the insanity my number three oh three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five, or text me. It's a long text,
but it sounds interesting. Not to sound overly sympathetic, the
texter says, but I do have an experience to relay
about a person from the Arab world. When I was
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in New York to help with a cleanup after the
World Trade Center attack, I happened to strike up a
conversation with a small supermarket worker originally from Saudi Arabia.
He was really adamant about letting me know how horrified
he was what happened, and quite concerned that other Americans
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would think he or his family agreed or even were
remotely like those terrorists. I'd like to hear a little
bit more of that from the Muslim leaders all over
this country this attack and what happened in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I'm John Calvera.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Check out Independence Institute, go to thinkfreedom dot org.
I'm John Caldera and for Ryan, give me a call
three or three seven one, three, eight, two five five.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Boulder is my hometown.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I have spent many a drunken night from college on
on the Pearl Street mall. That spot in front of
the Boulder County Courthouse, the Old Courthouse is a traditional
place for people to bang drums, do their Buddhist chance,
listen to music, spout off poetry, and of course, yell
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about their political viewpoints, because what is Boulder without yelling
about your political viewpoints?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Older is an intolerant town.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I came to Colorado at the young age of like six,
it was like nineteen seventy. Been in Bolder since eighty four.
It's thirty years. Oh my lord, how is that possible?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Ninety five, two thousand and five, No, make that forty,
that's forty. Yeah, I thought I counted that wrong. Forty years.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Where did it go? That is so incredible? Anyway, And
I've found Boulder to be growingly intolerant, growingly hostile to
different points of view. Now, Boulder used to be liberal.
Boulder has been liberal ever since Watergate. After Watergate, Boulder's
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never had a Democratic congressman. It's always been leftist, but
it's been weird leftist. It was a tolerant type of
goofy liberalism. You had the Naropa Institute, which is a
Buddhist slash beatneck Alan Gintensburg helped found the institution in college,
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and then farther down the street you had the headquarters
of Soldier of Fortune magazine, founded by Colonel Bob Brown.
These two diametrically opposed groups lived in harmony on the
same street. It wasn't a deal. Bolder was weird, but
truly tolerant. And then it got less tolerant, and then
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less tolerant, and richer and less tolerant, more trust funders
and less tolerant people with money, less tolerant, whiter, whiter,
whiter and whiter. There's an inverse relationship to how many
white people are in Bolder to how many Black Lives
Matter signs they put out in their front yard. They
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say black lives matter, but they'll never stop their growth control,
which makes it so that people of color can never
afford to live in Bolder. Black lives matter as long
as they don't live here is Bolder. And then for
those of us who are gun owners, it was always
a tolerant place, and now it has open hostility to
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gun owners. Absolutely hateful, hateful. You are not welcome if
you're a gun owner. What about Catholics? Now? The Sacred
Heart Church downtown gets vandalized regularly by anti Catholic, in
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other words, pro abortion vandals.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, just a picture.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'm looking at it right now in the front door,
my body, my choice spray painted on the church doors.
Because that's bolder. Spend time looking at the next door media,
that is the social media nextdoor dot com, and you'll
see about how Tesla owners in Boulder are getting targeted
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by their name. Why because Elon musks mean, that's why
I'm bolder. You have to buy law on your tesla.
Get a sticker that says I bought this tesla before
he went insane. That means no, no, no, please don't
vandalize this tesla.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm actually one of you.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I bought it before I knew Elon was a Trump supporter,
or the one where they put the F in front
of Elon so it spells Felon.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Get it. That's bolder.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And bolder is let me ask you, I'm curious, is
bolder anti semitic? I think the country is turning anti Semitic,
and I never really thought about that. Being raised in Colorado,
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I knew nothing about about Jews in the Jewish faith.
By Judar was was not there. My Gaitar is okay,
but my Judar no, not so good. I remember going
out with my ex wife when we were married and
saw an old college buddy of mine and on the
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way back, I said, oh, wow, did you know Allan
Allan was Jewish? And my wife looked at me and said, really,
Alan Finkelstein, the accountant.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You just realized he was Jewish.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's like, oh why, why?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Why would I not?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because I was raised in Colorado. I wasn't raised in Brooklyn.
My best friend has a kid, Josh Cohen.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He was Jewish.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, as a kid, You're like, what, I don't care.
I don't understand anti Semitism. I don't get it. I
understand racial bigotry in that you look at somebody and
that person looks different. That person's Asian, we don't like them,
that person's black, brown, white, whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But the Jewish, the Jewish race is so different.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's not like you look at somebody going it's Jewish.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't get it if you're Jewish, I really want
to hear from you. Do you feel safe? Do you
feel it is getting less safe? Is it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is it not that you're Jewish? Is that if you
speak up.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
About Palestine, if you support Israel?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Is that the danger where you then feel like you
need to be careful?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Three or three seven to one three eight two five
five that's seven one three talk?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Is is it?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I mean? I love Phil Wiser on the news doing
the usual politician thing. We condemn any of that type
of hate, We condemn violence lovely. That's that's nice. That
is a beautiful platitude, and thank you. It's it's what
you have to say. You put a quarter in the machine.
The politician says, we condemn all acts of violence.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Very nice.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Wouldn't it be nicer if Phil Wiser said, you know what,
this is the kind of stuff that makes it clear
we have got.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
To support Israel.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
This is the kind of stuff that says we need
to make sure that America doesn't turn her back on.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Israel. Is that because that's what this issue is.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
This guy didn't go up there because he doesn't like Boulder.
He went up there to target Jews who are Zionists.
He yeld Free Palestine. He told the police he wanted
to make sure all Israelis died, that they died.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Doesn't that say something? Isn't that the issue? Let's see?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
According to Wall Street Journal, he quote wanted to kill
all Zionist people and wished they all were dead. It's
a beautiful thing about about a philosophy when you'll be
rewarded in the afterlife for killing people here?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What do you do with that? What do you do
with a.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
With a religion that says it's not your job even
to convert people, it's your job to kill them.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And if you die in the act.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Of killing them, you'll get even extra rewards in heaven,
and your family might.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Get extra rewards here in life.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I can't imagine, I can't imagine most Muslims in
America support this. But I'm not hearing. I'm not hearing
a chorus of condemnation. I'm not hearing I'm not hearing
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the mosques and the clerics in Denver screaming how bad
this was and how they support Zionism. No, they're not
going to do that, And where's Biden on this? What
I mean by that is this attacker had a bee
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to visa. That is the visa that normally is a
six month visitors visa. It's not for working, it's for tourism,
it's for relaxation. It's for seeing your family. That expired.
That expired in February of twenty twenty three, nearly two
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and a half years ago. The guy is in the
country illegally, and I'm still curious.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And if you know why, please tell me.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Why would he come up from Colorado Springs. Why did
the King Supers shooter come up from Westminster or wherever
he was. There were plenty of other King Supers. There
was something that drew him to Bolder. The unhinged go
to bowl. The truly unhinged run for city council. It's Bolder.
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The mayor of Boulder didn't make a comment for hours. Again,
didn't address the issue. Now, if the issue was apartheid,
they'd be all over it. This is what's so interesting.
Boulder loves getting involved in world affairs. When I was
in college, it was all about South Africa. How Boulder
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was going to change the world by removing any investments
it had in South Africa. So instead of spending time
and energy in city government doing something completely useless, like
I don't know, fixing the potholes or solving the crimes
or putting bad guys behind bars or getting the home
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us out. They spent time figuring out how they were
going to end apartheid in South Africa. Then they decided
they needed to get into the ending the arms race.
Then they needed to close down Rocky Flats, and then
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they needed to fight for gay marriage rights, and it
just kept going and going and going. They never wanted
to fix the potholes. They want to take away our
guns and solve world problems. So why are they so
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very quiet right now when this is a world issue.
This guy didn't scream free Thornton. This guy didn't scream
we need more tax break for electric vehicles. No, this
guy screamed free Palestine and admitted he wanted all Zionists dead.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The attacker said he did this because he hated this
group Run for their Lives as The group Run for
Their Lives is a group.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That gets together.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
As a protests a little parade. There's maybe twenty of them,
thirty of them every week, trying to bring attention to
the fact that Hamas still has all these Israelis they've
captured and are keeping hostage. That's not a bad thing.
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Why are they still holding these hostages? So our attacker
not only us agree.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That that Hamas is doing the right stuff, but.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Drove all the way up from Colorado Springs. All right,
if you're Jewish, tell me if you feel safe. Tell
me do you really feel safe? And where are the Muslims?
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If you're Muslim, I'd like you to call too.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I'm not seeing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Either one of you call because you're probably embarrassed about it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Three h three seven one.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Three eight two five five, says Norm MacDonald, the late
great Norm MacDonald, who tweeted what terrifies me is if
Isis were to detonate a nuclear device and kill fifty
million Americans, imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims. All right,
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peaceful Muslims, here's your opportunity. Tell me how you feel
about this. And I imagine if one did call three
h three seven one three eight two five five, the
answer would be something along the lines of we condemn
all this violence and Israel doesn't have a right to exist. Yeah.
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Found campuses like SEU where kids are taught to chant
silly things like from the river to the sea, Palestine
must be free. Now, like any other toddler who picks
up a nursery rhyme, they don't understand what it is.
They're saying, ring around the rosy, pocket full of posies, ashen,
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ashen all fall down. Yeah, that was about the.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Black plague, the Black death.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But as a toddler, you just you just say it
because people say it and you don't think about it.
While on the su campus you say things like from.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The river to the sea.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, if you look at a map, from the river
to the sea, that is the description of of Israel.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It is to destroy Israel. Now they don't say we
want to destroy Israel. I don't even know if.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The kids understand what they're saying when they chant that.
It's just part of the hate America therefore hate Israel.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
How much of that played in this?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
How much of this growing anti Israeli, growing pro Palestinian.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Attitude is going to cap off to more of this.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Keep in mind this is just days after the shooting
in Washington, DC of that beautiful young couple who worked
for the Israeli Consulate. They were gunned down at a
Jewish event. It's the same sort of thing out in DC.
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They were shot and killed while they were at something
that was a pro Palace, pro Israeli event.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
This every week, this group comes together.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And tries to draw attention to the Israelis still held
hostage by Hamas. Out there two people were just gunned down,
and in my backyard and Boulder eight people set ablaze
with molotov cocktails, which means, of course Boulder will start
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having some serious discussions about how to how to have
common sense molotov cocktail safety laws, and somebody will want
a study done on how much in greenhouse gases are
released whenever there's a molotov cocktail attack. And are there
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some sort of alternative environmentally my readily friendly alternatives to
molotov cocktails. I'm sure somebody will see you Boulders on
that right now, because that's what's important to Bold rights,
not setting jews on fire, but how can we set
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the Jews on fire in a way that is more
ecologically environmentally friendly three seven eight five seven one three
eight two five five or give me a text the
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we got a couple of good ones here, John. Remember
it's the Saturday people, and then the Sunday people all right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
As a gay legal citizen.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
This one, Tex says, North African weapon holding former worker
at Rocky Flats who loves Boulder.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I am shocked, shocked.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I say, but honestly, Mohammad has his rights.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
How about this one?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
If he had set gay and trans people on fire,
you would be calling him a hero.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's an ugly and false thing to say.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I have many gay friends, gay family members. Why would
why would anybody say that that's just weird. That's the
kind of stuff you get on the text line. But
they'll never call you up and say you'd like to
you'd like to set gay people on fire? No, but
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it is interesting as a thought experiment. What if it
wasn't What if it wasn't a group of Jews that
were set ablaze. What if it was an lgbt QIA
plus demonstration and someone through molotov cocktails at them? What
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would Boulder's reaction be? Why do I have a feeling
and I can't prove this, it would be very very different.
Why do I have a sense that the lgbt q
I A plus see I said it all community would
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be much more celebrated as victims than people who who
are keeping the ground from Palestinians. Am I wrong on
that one? I don't think so. Three or three seven, one,
three eight, two five five. Let's head out to Littleton.
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Talk to Justin.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Justin welcome. You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
He John, I'm going to hear you, Alivie, old Golden Davis,
a few Gunny Bob and Capitalists and Silverman.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh yeah, those were the days.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
They certainly were. I think you're the best show anyways.
But point you if I was Jewish. I'm not sun Catholic,
but if I was these days, what's happened in Governor
Shapiro's mantis the thing in Washington, DC? This, I mean,
that's like what in a two months span, and that's
the ones we hear about, which.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
One was government in Shapiro. I'm sorry I missed that
part the.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Guy firebombs the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Because oh, that's right, that's right, that's fliped my mind.
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, it happened so often it's becomes normal on us.
It's scary if I was Jewish, and I am implying
for CCW. Now the backlog is long, but I'll hopefully
get it soon. I would not go to any lay
and Jewish gathering without several people with guns. Can you
concealed carry and bolder? I know you can't at Denver?
Can you and bolder?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They're making it more and more difficult.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Colorado legislature, in their orgy of anti gun rights legislation,
has made it much more difficult to get a concealed
weapons permit. They've made it much more restrictive of where
you can use it, and they have given local governments
the right to ban where you can carry. The beautiful
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thing about being carrying concealed is nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I mean, I think I think about what happened in
what was at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs
several years back, when it was an a armed citizen
who stopped a multiple killer. The guy killed somebody here
up in Denver, went down to the New Life Church
started doing a killing spree, and oh, I'm blanking out
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on her name. I should remember it when she stopped
that mass shooter.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Or think of what happened in old.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Town police officer now just became Incustria.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, and it was I'm blacking out on that shot
that guy's name who stopped a mass shooter because he
was caring concealed. The police then misidentified him and shot him.
They shot the hero and said very clearly that the
man was a hero.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He stopped the shooter.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And I don't know why so many and I've never
understood why so many American Jews are progressive and why
they're liberals.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I've talked to many of my Jewish friends about it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
There's there's conflicting viewpoints on it, and I'm wildly, wildly
freaked out about how how many American Jews are anti gun.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I don't know how you could watch one half of your.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Of your race get this skilled and still be and
still be anti gun.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
If there's any any group that deserves.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
To protect themselves, you think it'd be the Jews around
the world.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
One percent agree, and that's why, in my opinion, he
didn't do in the Springs. Obviously, Alpaso County is a
lot different than Boulder County. And you know, my brother
also worked at the King Supers years before it got
shot up. I don't think we ever got a clear
inswer on that motive. And I know that there was
some talk of, you know, maybe there is a lot
of Jewish people shopping there and that could be a target,
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but I never really was explained that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And this is my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I have not much to back this up, but that
the prosecution really didn't want to go down to the
the Palestinian anti Israeli anti Jewish realm because they had
to fight this in front of a jury and a
judge in a town that quite simply is very very
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sympathetic to the other side, very sympathetic to the pro
Palestinian side of that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Argument, and it does us all the service that we
don't actually know. And I mean there was some evidence
from what I heard, not clear obviously, but a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
More points on this.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know, I lived in a Muslim country for a
few years, about ten years ago, in Nesia, Malaysia, that
sort of place. So you would call the more liberal
Muslim country where if you're western Ukean Baybooze.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, this is Indonesia. It's very diverse.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
There, I kind of or western for sure. I wouldn't
call it extremely diverse. You know, I lived at the town.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I guess I'm comparing it. I'm comparing it to around.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes, in that case, you're correct, you know, and people
speak English with a Dutch then you know, I don't
think it was ever British protectorate, but you know you
could live there, right. It's when we go around and
I remember the Benghazi attack or YouTube video got banned
in those countries quickly, and I was talking to my
co workers. Some of them were Chinese, some of them
were Bahasa Malaya, Bahasa Indonesia, you know, the locals, and
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I was just saying, you know, I think it's kind
of freedom of speech. Why can't we at least watch
the video here? Because I hadn't seen it and I
was curious. Obviously the video didn't start the riot, but
they banned it anyways. And to a tee, the reaction
of who I thought were very moderate, very moderate Muslims,
you know, no headdress, no they cover, nothing like that,
just you wouldn't know. And they're like, well, why would
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you ever say anything bad about the prophet? And it
took me back. I was like, you don't care about freedom?
Was the good Charlie Haven We can put Jesus Christ
crucifix in a bucket of peed? Didn't they do that
in New York? Says twenty thirty years ago and making
an exhibit.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Not only was it an exhibit, it was government sponsored.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That makes me even it was.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
The artwork was called piss Christ, and I believe it
it got some government funding. It is interesting. I worry
so much about this growing tolerance to stop speech that
it used to be, particularly liberals of all stripes that
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protected free speech. The whole idea of I disagree with
what you say, but I defend to my death your
right to say it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That that is gone now in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
The Transgendered Misgendering Bill is a prime example of speech control. Yeah,
this is kind of crap you'd see in China or
North Korea. As you said, even in Indonesia they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Let you see the video.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And as Americans, we think, well, not here, we don't
do that. We believe in free speech. No, apparently we don't.
The Colorado legislator and the governor just passed a new
law saying you don't have free speech when it comes
to this issue. You've got to look at a guy
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and address and call him her even though it's untrue,
and you have to say it otherwise you'll be guilty
of discrimination.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That does terrifying.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And it's not a trans issue, it's a speech issue.
And I keep wondering what happened to the good liberals,
what happened to the old ACLU American people for the
American Way, people who would fight for pornographers like Larry Flint,
who said, yeah, these these are not great people, but
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they have a right to say what they want to say.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Where are these people today?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They are hiding under their tables and under their desk
because they don't want to get canceled by the hardcore left.
And I see it right now in Colorado, even at
the state legislature, there's a brewing battle inside the leftist
camp between people who are Democrats and people who are
vicious socialists who have no tolerance and no sense of
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free speech.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I am very worried, and that's right.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I grew up here. Also went to see you lived
in Boulder. I mean many a knights that I can't
remember on per Street, I know right where that is
just a fun fact. That's where the Naked Pumpkin run
used to end up.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Oh, I love the Naked Pumpkin runer, you know that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
And talk about tolerance, they don't allow that. I'm more right,
what a great point in that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Priff on that for just a second.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
For those who don't know what we're talking about, Boulder
used to be silly. We had all these silly things
and the kind of things that gave spice to life.
We had the Kinetics, which were people would build these.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Crafts and the reservoir.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Most of them would sink and you're in costume, and
it was kind of a Mardi Gras esque type of thing.
We had the mall crawl during Halloween. We had the
Alfred Packard Days I Would See You, which were to
commemorate the states only convicted carnival carnivore excuse me, cannibal
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and he and you have raw meat eating contests.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It was just good stupidity. And among them was at midnight.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Midnight when all the kids were asleep, they had the
Naked Pumpkin Run and a bunch of bullde eyes would
get together streak with nothing but a pumpkin on their head,
wearing it like a like a football helmet. And one
year the no fun Nazis came out arrested them all,
giving some citations, and they all had to please bargained
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down to something else because if the charge would stick.
They would be on the sex offenders Registry for the
rest of their lives because they did something fun and
silly after dark. They all went streaking at midnight. Yeah,
so tolerance, This is bolder tolerance. There is no tolerance
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in Boulder.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well, John, let me just end with this. Where do
we go from here? We have to fight back, right,
I'm obviously more conservative and libertarian as well, probably take
a little bit after your viewpoints pretty similar. You know,
let the government of my business. I won't mess with
you to mess with me as long as that is
disturb We've been lacating this for way too long, in
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my opinion. We certainly have to fight back now. Am
I saying, print ten thousand pictures of Muhammad and bring
them up Pearl Street next week? I'm sunny at the
same time. No, Yeah, here's the difference.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
If you won't rip up a picture of Mohammed because
they will kill.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You, That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
There was a do you remember the Onion?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The Onion had an article after the Charlie Abdu issue,
and it was an orgy scene, a naked orgy scene
that I will not describe, that had every supreme being
you had. It had all the Krishna gods doing crazy
things to Abraham and Jesus was doing disgusting things to
(32:31):
everybody else, and they were all they were all in
this really offensive picture.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But there.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And the headline of the story was no one killed
after the publishing of this picture because.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
There was not there was the Muslim God wasn't there.
Allah was not there.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And if Allah was in this offensive picture, well then
they would kill people.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I got to run.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Thanks for the call. Yeah, maybe that's why Boulder is
so pro Palestinian. They have the same level of tolerance
as many Muslims do. I'm John Calderic. Keep it right
here here on six point thirty.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
K ow.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Of the insanity my number three oh three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five, or text me. It's a long text,
but it sounds interesting. Not to sound overly sympathetic, the
texter says, but I do have an experience to relay
about a person from the Arab world. When I was
(33:42):
in New York to help with a cleanup after the
World Trade Center attack, I happened to strike up a
conversation with a small supermarket worker originally from Saudi Arabia.
He was really adamant about letting me know how horrified
he was what happened, and quite concerned that other Americans
(34:04):
would think he or his family agreed or even were
remotely like those terrorists. I'd like to hear a little
bit more of that from the Muslim leaders all over
this country this attack and what happened in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I'm John Calvera.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
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