Dave Proffit on What He's Doing To Help America's Veterans

Dave Proffit, founder of American Heroes in Action, joins Ryan to recap a big game hunting trip for military veterans and retired first responders in southwest Colorado on Veterans Day. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Turning to a CDs Colorado exclusive. For the first time,
we are hearing from one of Denver Mayor Mike Johnston's
biggest critics.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Do Better Denver, the social media account on x and Instagram,
launched two years ago just after Johnson took office. Well today,
more than one hundred and fifty thousand people comment and
like post calling out the city. The account is anonymous
and its owner has never granted an in person interview
until now. Tonight. She's speaking with your political reporter Sean

(00:27):
Boyd and Shawn She insisted on protecting her identity.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
And we agreed after considerable deliberation. Her critics say she
hides her identity to avoid accountability for what she posts online.
She told me she's concerned for her safety, especially with
the recent rise in political violence. You'll see some of
the threats she's received. She is a polarizing and powerful

(00:52):
voice in this city, and given how increasingly influential she's become,
we felt it was important to hear from her directly
for the first time. The creator of Do Better Denver
will tell you she's not your typical dissident. She's unaffiliated,
she says, has never been politically active and didn't set
out to be an activist Do better Denver, she says,

(01:14):
was born out of frustration with a city that she
felt had become numb to human suffering.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Some of these videos like deeply impact me and I
see people, I see people suffering, and I see the
pain in people's eyes. I think everyone else needs to
see these videos to understand like the true humanitarian crisis
that's unfolding on our streets.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
She says she's lived in Denver for more than twenty
years and doesn't recognize the city anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
The videos submitted.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
By her followers show people lying on sidewalks, openly using drugs,
and experiencing mental breakdowns in public. Some critics would say,
you're exploiting people at their lowest point in their life.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't think that documenting reality is exploiting people. My
videos are meant as a call to act out of complacency.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
The comments that follow some of the videos can be
cruel and degrading. She says. She doesn't condone them, but
doesn't believe in censorship either.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
My posts are.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Always directed calling out the failures of our elected officials.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Today is the day the rest the.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Mayor Mike Johnston her top target. He says he doesn't
follow her account.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
I have too much to do to actually run the
city to spend time on sites that are completely not
based in reality.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
She says much of her information comes from city employees.
Johnston says, based on what he's heard, it's misinformation.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
Oh whatever, I'll get someone on the street who says,
oh I saw I heard this, or to all this.
I said, that's completely false. Where did you get that?
And they say that's my source. I'd say, well, that's
why that's probably not factual.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Not once has the city reached out to me and said,
you know, you got this wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
We asked the mayor spokesperson for examples of misinformation.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
He provided eight.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
She corrected one of them regarding the city treasure's retirement.
Many of the others were related to the city budget.
She says she stands by those.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, the city might say it's misinformation now, the information
was accurate at the time I posted it because there
was a reversal of policy or a reversal on a
budget decision, and I mean that's the impacts that I
want to have right.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
She accused the Mayor's office of stonewalling saying it ordered
Denver Police, for example, not to respond to her inquiries
regarding crime.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
They're saying, you're posting this misinformation. Not at the same time,
they're taking away the resources that I had available to
me to corroborate that information.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
That is part one. Will play the second part of
this extended package with the brilliant reporting of Sean Boyd,
by far the best investigative reporter on television in this
market of Denver at CBS four, and it's extremely thorough
and I think she does a very good job of
presenting both sides or attempting to, but just putting myself

(03:59):
and Sean Boyd's shoes. There's only so much she can
do from the standpoint of getting Mayor Mike Johnston to
come out in the open, to come clean on this account.
Now Mayor Johnston is trying to have this both ways,
and it is something that I have discussed in a
text exchange with the very woman behind Do Better Denver

(04:21):
on X. Welcome to Ryan Schuling, Live your Thoughts at
five seven, seven, three nine. Zach Seegers on the other
side of the glass, Welcome back, Zee, Man. It's been
a while, man, I missed you. Happy to be here.
They double booked the guy, so I'm only going to
get him for the first hour today, but I have
you for the next two days, I believe, I think
maybe even three. All right, we'll celebrate them all. We

(04:44):
got him, And speaking of Mayor Mike Johnston trying to
celebrate successes of Denver, that might be a mirage at best.
The woman behind Do Better Denver agreed to go on
with Sean Boyd CB for as you heard Sean say,
there was some deliberation, probably in the newsroom. Do we
go with this story? Do we feature this woman when

(05:07):
we have to maintain her anonymity, when we have to
protect her identity, when we can't show her on camera,
and we can't divulge her name, and we have to
disguise her voice. So it's for all these reasons, and
only these reasons, that the woman behind Do Better Denvers
not come on this program. Because I've had extended conversations
via text with her, her contention with me, and I

(05:31):
get it would be just like when you hear my
voice on this program, especially that you've heard it a lot,
it's like, ah, that's Ryan, I know that guy, or
even Zach you know this guy's got to start. I
wanted to congratulate you, by the way, so on the
Broncos coverage. Little aside here, but I like to brag
about Zach. You are featured in one of the recorded
intros along with Benjamin Albright.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Now, man, that's a sign you've made it. It's beer out.
I clipped it, I saved it. I sent it to
my family, and I was like, Allen Roach saying my
name is a pretty darn cool because I grew up
when he was the in stadium voice of the Broncos.
Like when I was seven or eight and my family
was taking me in my first Broncos games, it was
Roach's voice.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Yeah, it's great, man. It's gotta feel kind of bizarre,
like surreal, like your meta. You're in the moment, like
that's my name. It's really freaky. It's really freaky. Well,
I'm happy for you, man. I love my Zach Segers asides.
Hope you do too. But it's to make a point,
you know, So those of us who are on the
radio or people that are on television, like you'll know

(06:29):
Karen Lee when you see her, when you hear you'll
know Sean Boyd when you see her. When you hear
you'll know zax Segers yours truly when you hear us.
This voice, according to again the woman behind you Better Denver,
is rather distinguishable in that anybody who heard it, even
if she were just, let's say, to appear on my
program via phone, there would be many other Oh I

(06:51):
know who she is. She's X y Z and she
works for ABC, not Channel seven locally. But that was
just an example. So I get it, and we'll get
into a little bit more of the details on that. Actually,
we have a based Fetterman that's tied into this too,
because the venom, the vitriol, the anger, the hostility, the

(07:11):
violence from the left. It's well documented it murdered Charlie
Kirk had played a large part in that. The person
who assassinated Charlie Kirk was an avowed leftist who thought
that Charlie needed to be silenced. And when you hear
what's coming John Fetterman's way, I don't think it'll surprise you.

(07:32):
There are lunatics on the right and I call him
out all the time on this program, Nick fun Days,
for one, and this is a guy, like I said,
he missed that opportunity in school. I believe with some
playground justice where he probably should have been stuffed in
a locker. I'm just saying it would have been for
his own good. I'm not condoning bullying in all of

(07:53):
its forms, but a little bit. I gotta say it
keeps the natural balance of the playground, of the classroom,
of the school in line. It's kind of like frontier
justice on the ice rink when there are two hockey
teams and they kind of rooted this out of HAKA.
I don't like that because now you'll have people taking

(08:16):
a run at your star player and you don't have
an enforcer, a goon to go. You're not going to
do that. You're not going to take out Joe Sakic
because we've got this guy over here who's going to
come and enforce the law, you know, somebody like that.
I just think there's there's something to be said for that,
and we on the right, I hope I try to
participate in the police, our own call out our side

(08:40):
when they're out of line, when they're off the deep end,
when they're part of the lunatic fringe. I don't want
to have anything to do with that. Or those kind
of people, because it devalues and underminds our cause. And
I would hope there be members of the left would
do it, but they're not. They're either condoning it outright,
encouraging it, applauding it, celebrating it, or just ignoring it

(09:01):
hoping it goes away, don't ask, don't tell type stuff.
So I get why the woman behind do Better Denver
wants to maintain her anonymity. But let's go back to
Mayor Mike Johnston. Now, I know I went a little
circular there. I did to leave like President Trump, I
come back. On one hand, he wants to say, ha ha,
I don't know who this person is and they don't

(09:23):
really matter, and it's all false information and misinformation and disinformation.
I'm too busy doing the job of mayor. I can't
pay attention to these things. I don't follow it. But then,
on the other hand, obviously viewing do Better Denver as
a threat, trying to silence or quash the information that

(09:48):
she's putting out there, and why if it's so unbelievable,
if it's so far out there, why would you even
bother If it's like you know, tenoil hat Alex Jones
type stuff in full wars Ken Trail's MTG type stuff.
Then you would just kind of ha ha and brush

(10:10):
it off. But that's not what he did. But that's
not what they're doing, and that's not what they've done.
And we'll get into those specific reasons behind it and
the direct response I got from the woman behind you
Better Denver. Let's read part of that right now, and again,
I'll save another portion of this, the second half of it,
for our second hour coming up at three pm Mountain time.

(10:34):
She says, as follows quote, Johnston claims, my account is
dragging Denver down, an inadvertent admission of its influence. But
if it's truly that impactful, why isn't he more concerned
about the real crowd sourced videos it shares. He says
he doesn't follow Do Better Denver because he's too busy

(10:55):
and it's quote completely not based in reality unquote. Yet
the page features unfiltered footage from Denver streets. To me,
his statements come off as selective ignorance to evade accountability.
Now there has been some obfuscation your word for the day,

(11:16):
stonewalling if you will slow playing requests and you'll hear
this from the second part of this piece against Sean
Boyd doing excellent work at CBS Colorado, that's Channel four locally.
And what I sent in my message to do Better
Denver and the woman behind it was that Johnston was

(11:39):
feebly suggesting on the one hand that he doesn't follow
the account, doesn't care about the account. But on the
other we are trying to answer the question on who
ordered the code red as I make a few good
men reference there Santiago, what happened there? Somebody ordered the
code read. So there was a request to DPD to

(12:02):
investigate the woman behind Do Better Denver. There was also
a request for information by the union representing the officers
in the Denver Police Department for the records on file
pertaining to the woman behind Do Better Denver. And what
you'll hear in the second part of this is as follows,

(12:24):
and I wrote this down. They denied the request DPD
made buy the union on these records because quote, the
balance of the interest waits against public disclosure unquote. Well
why would that be? Why would transparency in this case
be a bad thing. I'll tell you why, because of

(12:47):
who it would implicate and I've heard a lot of
stories behind the scenes as to who might be behind that,
and it all goes back to the Mayor's office Mike Johnston.
He tries to downplay this because he doesn't want to
fan the flames of the reality that do better Denver
is exposing on the streets of the city. If you

(13:11):
follow the account as I do, all that's put up there,
by and large are actual videos. And you've seen it too,
if you've gone downtown Denver, the open drug use in
the streets, particularly by Union Station, around the ballpark district.
There at coors Field, nice restaurants that need to have

(13:31):
clientele feel safe at their establishments. If I was a
woman downtown Denver, Hell no, I wouldn't walk alone down there.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
Now.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I have certain luxuries because I'm a guy, and it
just looks like I'm not worth their trouble. I firmly
believe that. But you can't tell me that this city
has been cleaned up. You can put lipstick on a pig,
you can take mal off the sixteenth designation, but it

(14:02):
still got stabby down there. For a poor flight attendant
who lost her life on the Sixteenth Street mall in
broad daylight, no less, and what did Mike Johnston do?
He held a press conference with poor Denver Police Chief
Ron Thomas having to stand right next to him. If
you've not seen the video of this, please go back

(14:23):
and watch it and just watch the look on Chief
Thomas's face as Johnston gas lights the masses. I'd say, well,
this isn't what re representative what's happening down here. It's
really safe. The crime numbers are down. A woman had
just had her throat slit and died, was murdered in

(14:45):
cold blood for no reason. Because drug addled maniacs are
populating the sixteenth Street mall, selling using drugs, suffering the
after effects of them. And I kind of had to hmmm,
lave Shawn Boyd. You guys know that, But when she has,
aren't you exploiting these people who were having a problem. No.

(15:08):
If anything, what the woman behind you Better Denver wants
to do is exposed that there are problems, that they
cannot be swept under the rug or under the sidewalk,
That these people they don't need freebies with nothing expected
in return. It's exactly what I've said on this program
for so many months, if not the last couple of
years these people who are addicts, And I know because

(15:30):
my father was an addict of alcohol and the debts
and the throes of alcoholism, but he was never going
to get better as long as he was enabled in
that addiction. He needed to have someone or something hold
him accountable, and he finally held himself accountable. But that's

(15:51):
when and why he got help from alcoholics anonymous from
Brighton Hospital where he was impatient for two weeks. He
has not had a drink since it's been twenty one years.
Very proud of my father, but it had come from him.
And if we merely allow the drug addled onto our
streets to continue to use drugs to be afforded with

(16:12):
free housing with no expectation of anything in return, this
is why faith based charities do this right on the
streets of San Antonio. I saw it myself at the
Final Four several years ago now, when I was covering
the Michigan Wolverines there and I noticed the streets were clean,
and I noticed there weren't any homeless people around, and
I asked around to the locals, what's going on here?

(16:33):
And they said a faith based Catholic organization there had
taken up the cause and invited those in, people who
were on their luck, without a home, had chemical addiction issues,
mental illness. We want to help these people, don't you.
Isn't that the goal here? To get them back on

(16:56):
their feet, contributing to society, holding onto a job, able
to afford to somewhere. I mean, you want to give
them that hand up, but not a hand out. But
that's not how this city has been operating. They look
at these people on the streets as mere numbers on
a ledger and clicking away. We got the X number
of people housed by Christmas, and now we did our

(17:17):
job and they're going to be cycled out in a
couple of weeks. But what want happens? What's the recidivism
right here? Are these people enrolled and enlisted in drug
recovery and treatment programs? Are they expected to attend those?
Are they expected to stay clean? Who holds them accountable?
Anybody do better? Denver is providing not only a valuable

(17:40):
service to the city, but a necessary one because who
else is going to do this? It's it all goes
back to the departed and the Mark Wahlberg clip where
the guy asked you, who are you? I'm the guy
who's doing his job. You must be the other guy.
Doletter Denver is doing the job that the City of
Denver sh could be doing. And if the City of

(18:02):
Denver was doing the job that it should be doing,
there would be no need for Do Better Denver, and
do Better Denver certainly wouldn't be a threat to the
reputation the image that Mayor Mike Johnston and the city
administration is trying to project for the masses to consume.
But we're not buying their bill of goods, and that

(18:26):
bothers that worries Mayor Mike Johnston. There's a little bit
too much truthiness getting out there. And that term invented
by Stephen Colbert when he was still funny on the
Colbert Report. Of course he no longer is five seven
thirty nine. Your texts coming in on this subject and
many others. Ryan, you bring the best news man. Thank you. Well,

(18:50):
it's only good news in that I am glad that
do Better Denver and the woman behind it is finally
getting some fair coverage in the media, some just due
on that front that it's not a caricature being portrayed
of her by a city administration that would seek to
silence her, and we are looking to do the opposite
on this program. She's got an open invitation should she

(19:13):
ever want to join the show. But at least I've
got these texts and we'll get to more of this
in our number two stick. And stay right here to
Ryan schuling life. Where are the Democrats to police this?
On the left to call it out? Why did they
just let it simmer? Well, that silence is complicity, there's

(19:36):
no other way to read into that. And when John
Fetterman comes forward and his own team, so it's not
just him, these are staffers that work for him, that
are doing research online social media, and immediately this all
the most venomous vitriol and nastiness is coming from Blue Sky,
that's the leftist alternative to x slash Twitter, and they

(19:56):
go beyond nasty, wanting him to have another stroke. And
who are these people? Well, I'll tell you who they are.
They're godless and they're soulless. And I'm not coming at
this as the most religious guy you'll ever meet. But
when there's an absence of that, when the world revolves
around an individual and that person's politics become their religion,

(20:19):
this is what you get justification of political violence. Wishing
death upon your opponents, shooting Charlie Kirk in the neck,
cheering that, celebrating that, spiking the football on that through
viral videos, teachers at schools, public schools throughout the country
having the audacity not just to think that that's gross enough,

(20:42):
not just to say that in private company that's also terrible,
but to have the audacity, the gall the ghoulish, soullessness,
the narcissism, to shoot a video, act right, self righteous,
holier than thou, superior to Charlie Kirk. He deserved to die,

(21:04):
He got what was coming. And John Fetterman, if you're
not careful, the SAME's going to happen to you, that
sort of thing. And you wonder why the woman behind
do better Denver wants to remain anonymous. I get it.
Something's got to happen. It's got to come from the left.
I could see here all day. We can talk about it,
you can text me about it. Five seven seven three nine.

(21:25):
We're not going to correct this behavior. That's a political movement,
that's a cancer within the Democratic Party. They need to
root it out. They need to want to root it out.
Why haven't they? Why won't they? That's the question five seven,
seven thirty nine this day after Veteran's Day. Really enjoyed
my conversation with j. Jonathan Flora from yesterday talking about

(21:49):
Gary Sinise and his foundation and Jonathan's involvement with that
and his friendship with Gary Sinise. As you know, I'm
a strong supporter of our veterans that includes this organization
for which Dave Prophet is the founder and the president,
and I consider him a personal friend. You can find
out more American Heroes Inaction dot org. And he couldn't

(22:09):
join me yesterday because he was out on a big
game hunt in southwest Colorado. David sounds exciting. Thanks for
taking the time today and now you got some cell service.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
Thanks thanks for having me Ryan, Yes, I can hear
you and you can hear me.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Take us through the event on yesterday and had to
have a little bit more special significance in that it
took place on Veterans Day.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
I think that's true. It was special for the veterans. Everybody.
It was said that their phone was getting texts and
messages all during the day, people wishing him a happy
Veterans Day, and so on and they were able to
spend some time in the mountains down here in southwest Colorado,
and nobody pulled the trigger. No animals were harmed in

(22:54):
the making of a Veterans Day adventure, but we got
to spend an enjoyable time out out in the beautiful
mountains of southwest Colorado.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Always want to make sure you have a good shot
and be humane in the harvesting of an animal, and
if you don't have that shot, like you said, it's
more about the experience and soaking in the beauty of nature,
and we have so much of it here in Colorado
and throughout the Mountain West. And Dave, I know that's
a big part of the geography of these hunts and
the fishing trips and going to these other states and

(23:26):
making it at an adventure. But what I like is
this is a very specific organization that focuses on those
who have served our country overseas or those who have
served domestically as first responders, and what happens when that
service is done and the mental health issues that we
know are so prevalent, and why when you take them

(23:48):
out for these types of events, Dave, it does them
so much good. Can you talk a little bit more
about maybe the feedback you get from the participants after
they've participated in a hunting or going fishing.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
We all know the tragic number twenty two veterans commit
suicide on average per day, and I've always felt a
sense of therapy and spending some time outdoors, and I
felt that I could possibly bring that number down a
little bit if I could get some outdoor therapy for
the men and women who have served. And as you mentioned,

(24:23):
it's for men and women who've won the uniform of
the military, as well as men and women who won
the uniform of first responders. And when I started the organization,
there was a study that had been done by the
University of Utah and it took thirteen veterans, all had PTSD,

(24:44):
and it took them on a multiple day rafting trip
on the Colorado River, and all the veterans kept a
diary and the University of Utah, the people doing this study,
said that spending time outdoors was absolutely therapeutic and they
actually coined the term eco therapy. So we are American

(25:08):
Heroes in Action is providing eco therapy to the men
and women who have served. And you had mentioned earlier
about the geography that we enjoy living in Colorado, and
we have all kinds of adventures. We do a lot
of hunting and fishing trips, for sure, but we take
our veterans whitewater rafting, and we take our veterans on
downhill ski trips, and there is a lot of a

(25:31):
lot of geography to enjoy in the state.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
The profit the founder of American Heroes in Action right
here in Colorado, and you can contribute to the cause
and find out more American Heroes Inaction dot org. If
you are a veteran, if you have served in that
capacity or as a first responder, and this sounds like
something that might appeal to you, definitely invite you to
check out this website and you can find out all
the information that you need American Heroes in Action dot org.

(25:57):
Or perhaps more specifically, if a loved one, somebody that
you know and care about would benefit from this. Dave's
a great guy. He's putting this all together. It's a
it's a tremendous cause, Dave. It's a big operation. I
went to your last banquet, and I know how much
you value people who are able to contribute to this
cause if you could just take us through the value

(26:20):
of that for people in our listening audience, if they
can give just any amount to American Heroes in Action,
just what that enables.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Well, here's some quick numbers for you, Ryan in nineteen.
In twenty twenty four, American Heroes in Action hosted fifty
four outdoor adventures a little over one per week on average,
and we took out two hundred and fifty one participants.
This adventure that we're on down here in Southwest Colorado

(26:49):
is adventure number sixty for this year. Wow, and we've
already taken out two hundred and ninety three participants. And yes,
we need money to pay for these because these adventures
are all expenses paid for the participants. And one of
our big fundraisers right now is we have printed a
fourteen month calendar from November of this year this month

(27:13):
through December of next year, and we are going to
give away a gun every Monday through the end of
next year. It's our sixty one gun giveaway calendar. Comes
with a raffle ticket, of course, and the calendars are
one hundred dollars. They're available on our website under the
store tab American Heroes Inaction dot Org slash store.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
I like that Monday gun Day. Ready for that now, Dave,
you just wrapped up this last hunt yesterday here Veterans Day.
Going forward as to getting these colder weather months, what
is the next event on the docket? Somebody listening right now?
That goes? I want to sign up for that next one.
I want to get involved and participate. Where and when
is that?

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Well, we are actually waiting several outfitters planning to take
our veterans and first responders on duck and goose hunting trips.
But the duck and geese, because it's been so warm
this fall, ducks and geese are still farther north. They're
not here in Colorado yet as part of the migration,
So we're waiting until for some colder weather to bring

(28:17):
in the ducks and geese. We do have a few
pheasant hunting crips planned. In fact, on the weekend after Thanksgiving,
we're taking a total of twelve veterans to South Dakota
on a pheasant hunt, and we have those twelve veterans
and first responders signed up already, but we have more

(28:38):
pheasant hunting trips planned. We do have a couple more
big game hunting crips planned, and once it gets cold
enough that ice forms and it's thick enough, we're going
to do some ice fishing crips this winter.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Sounds fantastic. It's an amazing organization. You can find out
more online American Heroes Inaction dot or just go there
get all details. Dave Profit, the founder, doing great work
on behalf of our veterans and retired first responders. They
have great stuff as always, so happy to have you
on and best of luck going forward with all these events.

(29:13):
Thank you, Ryan, Dave, Dave Profit right there five seven,
seven thirty nine. If you'd like to get in touch
with Dave, I can make that connection. If you know
a veteran or a first responder who you think would
benefit from this outdoor therapy, and I know I do,
and I haven't even served the country in that capacity,
but it does so much good from a mental health
standpoint to just take a break and get away from

(29:33):
it all, and especially for those that suffer from PTSD
in serving our country overseas, or serving our country and
our state and our cities right here in the state
of Colorado in that capacity as a first responder, So
one more time. American Heroes in Action dot Org and
Dave Profit our guests, the founder Ryan Shielding Live concluding
hour one after this to you if you've thritted that

(30:01):
needle and connected the dots. I know Zach has he's
on top of things. I should have heard the show.
We were having off the show during the break just now.
But long and short of it is as follows. Victor Marx,
Republican candidate for governor, schedule to appear with Dan Kaplis today.
You won't want to miss it four o'clock, a little
over an hour from right now. I don't know the

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fine details because I have not been involved in this process,
but according to Dan's expectation, because I believe Victor is
scheduled to join him for the full hour and he
will be in studio, So your chance. If you want
to fire away with some text messages, you might want
to suggest some questions from Dan for Victor. You can

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do that at five seven, seven, three nine. Start those, Dan,
if you would please, you can start your text to
me Ryan or however you want, call me whatever you want.
Had a text come in asking it was this from
Shannon Like in the example, So I'm looking at the
text page here just to give you a sense of
behind the scenes. Well, I deal with what am I
looking at? And it says text message is sent to
five seven seven three nine starting with and it has

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Andy in quotes like Who's Andy? I don't know. I
think it's just an a name that's used as an example,
like when you take a test and it says sample
and there's like a you know, just a fill in name.
I think that's what that is. I could be wrong,
but I think I might be right. Ryan good idea
to mention a charity that I've supported for multiple decades
called Step thirteen. Mike Rosen always supported this organization which

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provided housing and support and even job opportunities for the
people that need it. But they require you to be
sober and also take no government funding.