Dick Wadhams breaks down Mamdani's moment for Dems; Barb Kirkmeyer on her race for Colorado governor
November 5, 2025 • 34 mins
Dick Wadhams, GOP consultant and former chair of the Colorado Republican Party, joins Ryan to break down Tuesday night's election results - both in the state and nationwide - and discuss the implications heading into the 2026 mid-term elections.
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Sen. Barb Kirkmeyer (R-23) joins Ryan with reaction to Tuesday night's election results in the state of Colorado and nationwide and discusses what the implications may be on her race for governor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
His story for tonight is actually that the Socialist Party
is taking over the Democrat Party. And you know what
it was, Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It was Kathy Hochel.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It were the Democrats that were so afraid of their shadows,
so afraid of the radical left. People like Alexandra Cousi
or Cortez can't move and move and move and satisfy them.
And now they've been eaten alive. So this is a
lesson for the Democrat Party. They should have fought for
their party. They never fought for their party. They catered
to the radical left. And now we're going to see,
by the way, for people who think that they're voting
for affordability. Here with Mandani, a guy who believes in socialism,
(00:30):
we're going to learn the hard way in New York
City what socialism is. Your taxes will go up, and
if you pay property taxes, you won't be able to
afford to live in your home. And if you guess
what you rent, it's going to be passed on to
you in the form of your rent. The mandates, look, mandates, fees, regulation, surcharges.
We've seen it in this state, in this city under
one party rule.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
For the last decade.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It costs money. It gets passed on to you. So
if you think you're going to get a free ride
with Mandani, you're going to learn the hard way answer.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Senator Nicole Meliatakis from the One Sane borough of New
York City, Staten Island, Republican and somehow it's set aside.
Maybe it's because on an island and they get to
separate themselves from the Bronx and Brooklyn and Queens joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He was the chief campaign manager for John Thune. We
spoke to him not that long ago about the Senate
Majority leader and in springing that upset over Tom Dashell
wayback when twenty years ago, and Senator Thune two this day,
representing South Dakota in the Senate, also at one time
the chair of the Republican Party right here in Colorado.
Dick wadhams our guest on Ryan Schuling Live, Dick, Welcome back, Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Hi Ryan, that's to be with you again.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Great to have you on.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And I have to believe that you're as deeply concerned
about the results of last night as I am.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What is your reaction.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
National restate either.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, let's start with national what we just heard about
Zora Mundani. I mean, I didn't think we lived in
a time, Dick, you or I or our listeners for
that matter, in which would see a literal socialist elected
mayor of a major US city.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But here we are, Well, yeah, I share that uh view.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Ryan.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Never did I think any city, including a liberal New
York would do this, But it's it's I think long
term it does not bode well for Democrats nationally. You know,
Democrats won big victories in New Jersey and Virginia, but
and there was a lot of hope that New Jersey
might be an upset. It didn't happen. But you know,
(02:31):
tomorrow morning, nobody's going to remember who the who these
new governors of Virginia and New Jersey are. But the
fact for Democrats is that man Donnie is not going
to be the face of the Democratic Party because there's
going to be microscopic uh scrutiny and coverage of what
he does. Is mayor of New York, and I'm not
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that familiar with the New York City Council, but it
scribes me he's probably going to get what he wants,
and it's going to drive New York into the tank
and Democrats don't have to be either for what he
does or against them, and they're going to be afraid
to be against them because there will be primaries against them.
So I think that long term this is a problem
(03:14):
for the Democratic Party. Last night was not any fun
from what the watching New Jersey and Virginia go down
that I think long term it's a bigger problem for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I feel exactly the same way Dick. The Democrats.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
They can spike the football, celebrate today they won the battle,
but long term, to your point, you know, winning that
war in figurative terms on the political landscape when they
have what they acknowledge to be this infighting between the
old guard and the new the more maybe somewhat moderate
old establishment liberal Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer wing of the party,
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even if King Jefferies, I think, tries to mold himself
into that part of it against this new Democratic socialist
Bernie Sanders aoc Zorn Mundanni wing and the power struggle
that will now ensue because these Democratic Socialists as they
call themselves, they have enjoyed now some success and this.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
May prove their point.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And I want to kind of drill down on what
you said about the upcoming primaries. There's been a lot
of scuttle butt about AOC possibly launching a primary challenge
of Chuck Schumer for his Senate seat, and here's what
she had to say last night about the old Guard.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I think is.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So impressive about what Zaoran Mamdani accomplished tonight, as well
as the entire movement of New Yorkers that came out
to vote for him, is that he had to not
just defeat a Republican, he had to defeat a Republican
and the old guard of the Democratic Party at the
same time. He was fighting a war on two fronts
and not just one. And he's still won resounding way.
(04:46):
And I think the message that that sends is that
the Democratic Party cannot last much longer by denying the future,
by trying to undercut our young, by trying to undercut
a next generation of diverse and upcoming Democrats that have
(05:07):
the parties, the actual party, the actual electorate and voters support.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Nicole Millia Takis made the observation Dick that this is
a party, the Democrats that tried to placate this radical
left wing element of their party kind of pat them
on the head, thank them for playing Nancy Pelosi was
really good at this, at inviting the squad in but
then putting them in their place when the time came
and stuff had to get done. Now it's as if
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they've commandeered leadership in the party because they have had
this success. They view it as something they can build on,
and I think they're getting a little bit more froggy
in terms of their attempts, perhaps to overthrow the traditional
party line establishment leadership.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
What say you no, I totally agree and listen. I
think she is going to either challenge Senator Humer in
a Democratic primary next year or frankly, Ryan, I think
she might run for president, and given where the Democratic
Party is right now, I would not discount her winning
the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty eight. She has become
(06:13):
a fundraising juggernaut. She gets huge crowns across the country.
They're all Democratic socialists who show up, of course, but
I do not underestimate AOC. First of all, I think
she would knock off Humor in a primary, in fact,
that she might drive him out of the race. Team
I just decided to chuck it in. Wow, But I
(06:36):
think she got a next to one chance at number
one being a US Senator or number two being the
Democratic nominee. I do not think she could be elected
to the presidency in twenty twenty eight. I do not
think she's electable nationwide in general election. But I damn
sure thinks that she could be the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, Dick Wadham's joining US, former chair of the Republican
Party here in Colorado and the architect of the winning
campaign for John Thun against Tom Dashel back in two
thousand and four. Just because of that perspective that you bring, Dick,
I want you to hear Ken Martin, the current chair
of the DNC, as he tries to thread this needle, when,
to his credit, Jake Tapper was pinning him down on
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the details of a lot of the geriatric aspect of
leaders in the Democratic Party and whether it's time for
them to step aside.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Here's that exchange.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
You say, new new Democratic Party, and I can't help
but notice that Governor Alec Cheryl is fifty three, and
Governor Alex Spamberger is forty six, and Mayor Elec Mamdani
is thirty four. Your party, though, has a lot of
people in it who just will not retire. They're in
their seventies, they're in their eighties. There's a New York
(07:44):
Magazine story about it right now about all the members
of the House and Senate in your party in particular,
who just won't retire. Is the age of your candidates
that won tonight? Gavin Newsom's fairly young himself, also, Is
that also part of what's going on here?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Look, it's not a question of age, you know, because
at the end of the day, what people want right
is they want fighters. The divide right now in our
party is not ideological, nor is it age.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The divide right now is between.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Those who are fighting and those who are sitting on
the sidelines. You know, I reject this idea. There's plenty
of older elected officials and older candidates frankly, who are
fighting and what Democrats want and frankly, what Americans want
right now as fighters. People are going to stand up
and use the power they have to actually fight for
their communities, fight for their families. That's the true divide
right now. So I reject this agism that's out there
(08:37):
right There's plenty of young people who are elected office,
who are doing nothing right with the power they have,
just like there are plenty of older candidates and elected
officials who are using the power they have to make
a difference. So, look, I understand what you're saying. What
people want is fighters, and we need more fighters in
the Democratic Party. And you saw those fighters emerge tonight
in races across the country.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Ken Martin says fight and fighters several times in that answer,
dick into me that means fighting Donald Trump. Well, they
won't have that boogeyman to fight anymore the next time
around in twenty twenty eight in the presidential level, they'll
still used it as a cudgel and they'll get a
lot of voters out in twenty twenty six campaigning against Trump.
But you've got to stand for something. And this is
(09:18):
where my part of the analysis comes in, which I'd
like you to kind of break down. There is not
really a gen X millennial element to the Democratic Party
that isn't veering off course hard to the left. I'm
talking about maybe a guy like John Fetterman or even
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who might be very palatable to
the masses across the country, but they have no path
(09:38):
within the Democratic Party because it's as hard and as
far as you're willing to go to the left to
be able to placate that radical fighting element of that base,
like we've seen Gavin Newsom struggle with like do I
go to the middle, do I have Charlie Kirk on
my podcast?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Or do I go back hard to the left?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Do I redistrict California like we saw a prop fifty
last night? How do you analyze all of that from
the Democratic perspective on what the past af forward is
for them?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, I agree, Ryan.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Will.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I would agree with the Democratic National Chairman on one
thing that when you look at the Bernie Sanders, I
mean you look at what is the eighty years old
and he's still immensely popular in the Democratic Party. And
one of the reasons I think he is is that
he is an unapologetic democratic socialist and he and he
and he promotes that agenda. So I think that there
(10:27):
is a side of what the DNC chairman says is
that it is actually true that Democrats are looking they're
looking for the hard left, They're looking for the democratic
socialists and who will take that site? Now, I think
most of them are younger. As you point out that,
I think that they that it's more of an I know,
(10:48):
I think it's more of a question of ideology than
even you. I will say this though, about Mamdani as well.
He is a he's a very dynamic guy. He's very
he's very articulate. He wore a suit the entire campaign,
did not look like a nutty socialist. He always had
(11:13):
a smile on his face. I mentioned that because I
don't think a Bernie Sanders like candidate, somebody who was
eighty years old, the socialist, would have won that election.
I do think I think that the personal qualities of
manban Mamdonnie, and you have to give him that. I
think it serves him well. I'm not sure he would
have done as well if he had been just another
(11:34):
Bernie Sanders out there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Dick Wadams our guest, former chair of the Republican Party
right here in Colorado and longtime political consultant for Republican
candidates nationwide and right here in Colorado as well. One
more on the national front here one of Zoron Mumdani's predecessors,
Bill de Blasio, who was much maligned in his exit
from office. Eric Adams serving in between, but he fell
out of favor with New Yorkers and their voters, although
(11:58):
he moderated his positions quite a bit, and that might
have been to his detriment. But it goes to your
point here, Dick, of this cult of personality that Zoron
mumdani was building, despite his youth presenting himself.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Is you know, very well educated, which he is.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He's well spoken, like you said, but that he is
able to wallpaper over these very dark aspects of what
socialism truly is. Here's what Bill de Blasio had to
say about Mumdanie's win.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Last night was last night game changing, earth shattering or
just a good night?
Speaker 9 (12:30):
No more than just a good night, because what happened
here was Trump was on the ballot basically everywhere. He
couldn't campaign anywhere for even the candidates he wanted to
because his approval is really tanking. He says the shutdown
in his comment, Well, guess what, the voters are blaming
him for the shutdown. Also, so what this is is
a reset. Really, it's an opening, a huge opening for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
All over the country.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
And also, let's be blunt, as a Democrat, we were
kind of in the wilderness. In the first few months
of the Trump era, we were stumbling about kinda and we
were stumbling about. But this is not only a shot
in the arm, it's it's literally the evidence that we
can now go on the offensive.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That we have a message that works.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
And I think Zara in particular, this was a kitchen
table campaign. It's so funny. There was no identity politics,
there was no social issues. It was the rent. It
was how you pay for food, it was how you
get to work.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It was all these really.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Basic things that I think I'm going to help democrats.
Democrats get back to working class and middle class voters
all over the country.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But the big question, how are you going to pay
for it? Bill? I mean, that's es central to all
of those you know solutions.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
The part that I will say, I do agree with
Dick and last night, and we've been talking about this,
you and me throughout these last several election cycles. Trump
is always on the ballot, except when he's not personally,
then his voters, that coalition, they don't show up, and
I think that was the case again last night. But
those who despise Trump, that are motivated, that are energized
against him, they show up in massive numbers and with
(14:02):
the lay of the land last night as we saw it, Virginia,
New Jersey, New York City, even the California ballot proposal.
This is all driven by that anti Trump kind of
energy that turned out last night.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So how do you break that down from the Trump angle?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
He couldn't afford build a Blasio's right if he wouldn't
come out and actively campaigned for or endorse whin some sears,
that would have hurt her rather than helped her. Same
for Jack Cheddarelli in New Jersey. Same for Andrew Cuomo,
I guess in New York City. So how do you
analyze the Trump factor in all of this?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Well, I agree. Let me mention one thing about the
Bosio comments. That was one thing that Mandani did. He
stayed away from social issues, I mean, and he confines
his approach to affordability and then his view of that
now it's off the chart socialists and it This isn't
going to work when he tries to apply it. But
(14:58):
in terms of his day to day rhetoric, he tried.
He talked about issues that I think did concern New Yorkers.
Now he's going to fail because socialism always failed. But
that once again he was very presentable. He's very articulous,
and he stuck to issues and didn't get into the
social issues. Now, in terms of Trump's I think you're right.
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I think Democrats are very motivated to go vote right
now for whatever reason. I think Republicans were not last night.
Across the country, Democrats, you know, they hate Trump so much, Ryan,
They're going to show up, and they did last night.
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And of course a different dynamic in New York because
the New York is so democratic. I think only ten
percent of the electorate is even a Republican in New York,
so some was irrelevant what Republicans do in New York.
But no, the intensity of Democratic opposition to Trump is
very deep, and that's an advantage in an off year
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election like we had last night.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Dick Wadham's our guest.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
One more analysis from the local perspective. Hearing Colorado, Dick,
and we noticed like Danielle Jorinski lost her seat in
the Aurora City council race last night along with her
conservative counterpart, and that city move left. We saw a
sweep of the Douglas County school Board, which.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I know statewide.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Not a lot of people may be paying attention to that,
but it's a Bellweather county and for that to all
go one direction speaks volumes. And then we saw props
l L and MM the boondoggle school lunch program. They're
going to jack up taxes on those making three hundred
thousand dollars or more of the My argument is it
only starts there.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What do you make of the Colorado results last night?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, it kind of goes back to that intensity against Trump.
Democrats showed up last night. And while I can't I
don't have any figures to back up what I'm about
to say, but I have a feeling there is a
suppressed turnout of Republicans and those areas, especially maybe in
Douglas County. The what what is interesting, Ryan, is that
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the West wing groups that have pumped so much money
into local races, as they did when they got control
of the Aurora City Council several years ago, and then
they allst control the Conservatives, they didn't play that hard
last night and this selection in Aurora, and then you
mentioned Douglas County. Yeah, I mean it's frankly, it's very
concerning and and it shows continued, potential deterioration of of
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our Republican advantage in in Douglas County. But uh, of
course you know it will be the auction will that
will have a year from now. We can't make any
predictions on what's going to happen next year because one
year is an eternity in politics, and we'll see what
the the what the game is all about.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Then, Dick Wadham's tremendous wealth of experience brought to the table.
We always appreciate his insights and contributions to the program.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Great stuff as always, Dick, thanks for taking the time.
Speaker 10 (17:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
All right, looking forward to, like I said, those twenty
twenty six elections, and then Dick stated, exactly right, there's
a lot of time between now and then. A lock
can happen, a lot can change, and one of those
candidates for governor.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Is going to be joining us.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Coming up next, that's Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, who I am
going to ask the question, who is Victor Marx? Now
I've only mentioned him in passing on this program because
we have been unable to this point to get him
to come on either this show or the Dan Kaplis Show.
And I've been looking into who Victor Marx is, what
his background is, what he brings to the table. He's
already scored endorsements from Heidi Ganaal and Lauren Bobert and
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the money that should come along with that. We know
Barb has done a pretty good job in her own
right of fundraising.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But we'll see where the race stands.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
From her eyes when we come back after these words
against Senator barbar Kirkmeyer joining us Live Aaron Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
The median family cost of a single FAI house in
Colorado is six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The cost
of childcare in Colorado is twenty thousand dollars on average.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That is a disgrace.
Speaker 11 (19:11):
We are the fifth most expensive state in America to
buy a single family house. We are the fourth, I
think most expensive state in America.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
To buy childcare. That is a disgrace. Oh and we
have to address.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
It because people aren't going to be able to live
in this state if we don't.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
Senator Michael Bennett dropping an F bomb on a podcast,
do you make me sounding pretty tough for Senator Michael Bennett.
What maybe he's trying to shed this counselor Mackie from
south Park Image Tech cruise get a philibuster, we get
people drowning.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Ben does a character right.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You hear this and then it's like the arsonist who
burned the house down, And I wonder who could have
done this?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The Democrat have been running the state for how long?
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
These are all their policies.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Cost of living in Colorado is skyrocketed time your watch,
Senator Bale.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You wouldn't know, though, because you don't come back here
very often.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
And he bristled at a question from Eerlin Rob Dawson
in the KOA news room not that long ago, in
an event it was agitated him so much so Rob
asked the question, you know, do you think you know
people are kind of rediscovering you? And he didn't take
kindly to that, and then another female reporter started to
ask a question and no.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, no, wait, I'm not telling you. Yeah, it's not
really fair.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And if you're laying betting odds right now, Michael Bennett
is likely to be the nominee of the Democratic Party.
I think I would favor him if I were setting
those odds against Phil None. The Wiser battle of at treasure,
of course, and if I were laying odds, I would
say our next guest is probably the prohibitive favorite to
be the Republican nominee, so you might see them on
a debate stage together, so maybe it's a little bit
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of practice for her. Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, a guest on
Ryan Schuling Live. Senator, thank you for your time as always.
Speaker 13 (21:02):
Thank you, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Good afternoon, Yeah, a great afternoon.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
When we get to hear Michael Bennett dropping the F bomb,
what do you think of that?
Speaker 13 (21:10):
I think it was very crass, and I just you know,
I posted about it myself and I just thought it
was pretty rich considering his party has been in charge
and had total control for the last seven years, and
you know, we're all paying the price for it, so
he's right. I mean, I actually agree with him. It
is a disgrace. I'm not going to use the other
word he used, but it's a disgrace because affordability has collapsed.
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Small businesses are struggling, working families are being forced out,
and that is a disgrace. And it's all in his
party that you know, he's now essentially kind of condemning,
which again in a very crass way. But you know,
I've been listening to Senator Bennett us Senator Bennett three
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terms basically, and that's what he has to say. But
you know, there's no light between him and what the
Democrats have done in the last seven years with their
total control. His platform looks a heck of a lot
like all the stuff they just passed. So you know,
I guess he's talking about his own platform as well.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So yeah, even Comrade Kyle Clark of nine News has
compared him to a cicada that comes out every thirteen
years and then goes away for another thirteen But Senator
kirk Meyer, to be fair, Senator Bennett, yeah, he thinks
he has a solution here, So let's just see what
he has in mind.
Speaker 11 (22:26):
I don't think there is a one size fitz al
Oh approach that's going to work.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't think it will work.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
I think that what Lakewood is going to do, and
what Breckenridge is going to do, and what Lineman is
going to do, and what Durango and Grand Junction are
going to do are all and Alamosa are all going
to look different.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Now, what I take from that, Barb is like when
Ron Burgundy calls out, Brick Tamlin, are you just naming
towns in the state of Colorado so that we think
you care about these towns like he was just randomly going,
I know this Stone and Durango, And it gives me
that sense like it's still really sticking with him. That
a lot of people, and I think people from within
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his own party, and if Phil Wiser were smart, he
would use this in a campaign against Bennett believe that
he doesn't come back here enough or attend to the
needs of the people who live here in the state
of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Do you agree?
Speaker 13 (23:20):
I absolutely agree, and I'll even go one one farther
than that, when you ask everybody what has this Again,
he's been in office seventeen years, he'll be one of
our longest you know, us senators from the state of Colorado,
who longest serving senators. And when you ask him what
he's done, nobody can tell you. So not only do
they not see him, they can't even tell you what
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he's done in his terms back there. And then you know, again,
I've been following him because, as you know, I'm running
for governor. Like you said, he's running for governor, So
you know, I kind of listen to see what he says,
and he likes to talk about how he's gonna take
the fight to Donald Trump. I thought, well, you're in
the perfect spot. You're in Washington, d C. Why don't
you just staying there fighting it? But so I just
don't understand him. And again, you know, I think he
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was trying to say, you know, he's going to go
work with local government and partner with him, which which
is a great deal. But he doesn't say that necessarily,
that clearly on his web page, and in fact, his
web page is full of stuff like I just said
that basically, we've you know, the Democrats have passed in
the last seven years here in the legislature that have
made us unaffordable. And on the childcare issue, don't even
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get and started. I mean, the inefficiencies that have happened
through this police administration and the Democrats is so great.
And then he wants to call him out like what
has he done to help the situation? There are federal programs,
it's called the childcare program, SEECAP program is what it's called.
What has he done to help that situation? I haven't
(24:47):
heard it, and I was a County commissioner for twenty
years and had to help implement that program. So where's
he been? You know, he wants to call everybody out again.
My point was, Senator Bennett, is we don't need a
third term for Polis essentially, because that's what it looks
like to me.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer trying to prevent exactly that. And she is,
of course one of the front runners in the Republican
primary for the nomination for governor.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Now Sheriff Steve.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Raimes is going to be filling in for Dan Kaplis tomorrow,
and he has unearthed some audio that I shared with you, Barb,
and I want to give listeners a sneak preview because
I've been asking the question and I will ask it
of you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Who is Victor Marx?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, this guy who is very successful in his own
right individually, he has garnered the endorsements of Hidie Ganall
and Lauren Bobert. No small feet there. And this is
a taste of a video that Steve Raimes will be
sharing the entirety of about a minute from this as
he was driving.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
I believe this. Some people ask me, They're like, hey,
so of these things that happened to you in your life.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's pretty wild. You know, they're all true.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
I'm like, unfortunately, yes, And then they're like, are he
exaggerating me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, I don't think so. Maybe as I get older,
I get some details.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
But I get a case in point today, I literally
just got pulled over police officer. It was a good stop,
don't get me wrong, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It was al righteous stop. But this isn't my vehicle,
and I'd.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
Been at it, and uh.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
This isn't my vehicle, so he put over for it's
not it's not registered.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
So I'm literally going, okay.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So he's pulled over in a vehicle that he states
there toward the end it's not his. And when you
find out the story behind that, it's quite eye opening.
So I ask you, Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, who is Victor Marx.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
I I truly don't have any idea. I mean, the
guy has not been vetted. He I've only seen him
at one event and he showed up late and stood
in the back and listened to what myself and three
other candidates had to say and then came out and
basically repeat it what we said. So I know he
was invited to a forum up in Larimer County, and
(27:14):
he was given every opportunity to participate, either in person
or to zoom in or to do a video and
answer some questions, and he just he said no, he
wouldn't do it. So I have no idea who he is.
And like I said, I've only met him once, sort of,
I don't know who he is, and I don't know
that anybody knows who he is. And you know whatever,
(27:39):
So Lauren Bobert, you know, is supporting him. I have
the support of former Governor Bill Owens as I run
for governor, and he actually knows what a governor is
supposed to do. So I'm feling pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Good about that.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Does it surprise you, though, because I'm really coming at
this objectively, Barb, I don't have a horse in this race.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You know that I don't know the guy.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I've invited him to come on the show as of yet,
that has not been accepted. You come on my show
all the time, so you're always welcome to do so.
But did it surprise you or disappoint you right out
of the gate?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, like you said, I'm got to vet this guy.
Who is this? Where did he come from. What did
he do?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And Lauren Bilbert and Heidi Gannall, the former nominee for governor,
endorses him right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Did that surprise you?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (28:22):
It was surprising, you know because I know I know
both of those folks, and I spoke with both of
them about, you know, supporting my race, and you know,
and I appreciate when people say, look, I know a
lot of people in the race, I'm just not going
to get involved.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And then this guy that.
Speaker 13 (28:38):
Nobody knows kind of comes out of the blue and
they endorse him. So it's surprising and it's disappointing. And then,
like I said, nobody knows this individual. I mean, nobody
knows really anything about him other than some of the
things he has sent out about himself. But you know,
some of it kind of seems questionable, and he would
think that people would do better vetting. I mean all
(28:59):
the rest of this well, I would say myself and
certainly Greg Lopez and represent a Bombs and Senator Basley
and Sheriff Mike Sel. You know, we've all been vetted
to some extent and run through races, and you know,
one are races and that type of thing. And you know,
even the other people that are in the race. I mean,
I got in my first week and I was at
(29:20):
the Denver Press Club for a forum with you know,
twelve other people and went up and introduced myself, kind
of got to know them all. Talked to him a
little bit about you know, you know, why were they running,
you know, and make sure could we support each other
depending on who's the nominee kind of stuff, And had
a really good conversation with most of them. But this guy,
I just don't even know. So he doesn't show up
(29:41):
to anything that I'm at, and I think I go
to a lot of things sowhere. Yeah, I mean it's
just I don't get it. I don't get it, and
you know, I just don't get it. So but you know,
they get to do what they want to do, and
I would I would strongly suggest everyone that before you
go indorse some when you should know who they are,
(30:01):
or before you support somebody, you should know who they are.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, we're looking forward to asking those questions. Victor Marks
a candidate, a high profile coming into this race, and
Sheriff Steve Rings will be talking a lot more about
this tomorrow, filling in for Dan Kaplis. I'm just asking
the open ended question, who is Victor Marx. He's welcome
on the show anytime. Just as our guest who you
just heard, Bob Kirkmeyer, the Senator. You can find out
more about her campaign for governor at Kirkmeyer for Colorado
(30:26):
dot com. That's Kirkmeyer N E y E R FO
R Colorado dot com. Bob, always a great conversation. Thank
you so much for your time.
Speaker 13 (30:33):
As always, Yes, thank you and thanks what you're doing
to keep the listeners engaged and let them know what's
going on in the state of Colorado. Greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
We greatly appreciate you, and we are certainly just trying
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Closing up shop here. You don't have to go home,
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us in the previous segment.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Again, you've got an open invitation.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
There you go. Here's your karaoke moment for this ones
that you're welcome. Open invitation to Victim Marx. And why
I say that is because I know, and I like
and I highly respect both Heidi and All and Representative
Lauren Bilbert. But when a candidate to me drops out
of the sky, I don't know who this guy is.
(33:12):
Now I'll admit I have blind spots, just like anybody else.
Maybe I should have known who this guy was, Maybe
I should have seen him coming, but I didn't. And
I got to tell you, you're listening to somebody yours truly,
who is fairly well connected, I would say in Republican
politics in this state that I know most of the
people through doing the show over seven years with Dan
(33:32):
as well as a producer, reaching out, making contexts, meeting people,
you know, seeing them in person, having those conversations. Never
have I ever interacted with, encountered, seen, heard Victor Marx.
And then he just drops out of the sky, and
I see all this.
Speaker 14 (33:48):
Momentum behind him on social media, Facebook and TikTok and
Twitter and Instagram and the videos and these audios, and
you know he's in Hawaii here and he's over there
and he's doing a mission.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And I want to know more, and I know you
want to know more, but I want to know the
why behind.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Why is he running?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Why are all these people endorsing him right out of
the gate, Like Barb said, she got to look for
endorsements from the two women that I talked about, who
I both considered to be friends of mine, and Victor.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Who is Victor Marx?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
He owes it to you the listeners, to come on
a program like this one, or with Dan Capli's or
somewhere and conduct an interview and answer questions, have a
give and take conversation, no matter how or who he
wants to do that with. I just hope that it's
sooner rather than later for all of our sakes. This
one says you should do an hour of your show
(34:38):
as mister Mackie Gary.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That wouldn't that be the.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Same thing as Michael Bennett might have to give him
an equal time.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't know. SOG means I got to get out
of here.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Dan Capls coming up next, saw joining you tomorrow more
with Ryan Schruman Live
His story for tonight is actually that the Socialist Party
is taking over the Democrat Party. And you know what
it was, Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It was Kathy Hochel.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It were the Democrats that were so afraid of their shadows,
so afraid of the radical left. People like Alexandra Cousi
or Cortez can't move and move and move and satisfy them.
And now they've been eaten alive. So this is a
lesson for the Democrat Party. They should have fought for
their party. They never fought for their party. They catered
to the radical left. And now we're going to see,
by the way, for people who think that they're voting
for affordability. Here with Mandani, a guy who believes in socialism,
(00:30):
we're going to learn the hard way in New York
City what socialism is. Your taxes will go up, and
if you pay property taxes, you won't be able to
afford to live in your home. And if you guess
what you rent, it's going to be passed on to
you in the form of your rent. The mandates, look, mandates, fees, regulation, surcharges.
We've seen it in this state, in this city under
one party rule.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
For the last decade.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It costs money. It gets passed on to you. So
if you think you're going to get a free ride
with Mandani, you're going to learn the hard way answer.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Senator Nicole Meliatakis from the One Sane borough of New
York City, Staten Island, Republican and somehow it's set aside.
Maybe it's because on an island and they get to
separate themselves from the Bronx and Brooklyn and Queens joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He was the chief campaign manager for John Thune. We
spoke to him not that long ago about the Senate
Majority leader and in springing that upset over Tom Dashell
wayback when twenty years ago, and Senator Thune two this day,
representing South Dakota in the Senate, also at one time
the chair of the Republican Party right here in Colorado.
Dick wadhams our guest on Ryan Schuling Live, Dick, Welcome back, Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Hi Ryan, that's to be with you again.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Great to have you on.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And I have to believe that you're as deeply concerned
about the results of last night as I am.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What is your reaction.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
National restate either.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, let's start with national what we just heard about
Zora Mundani. I mean, I didn't think we lived in
a time, Dick, you or I or our listeners for
that matter, in which would see a literal socialist elected
mayor of a major US city.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But here we are, Well, yeah, I share that uh view.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Ryan.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Never did I think any city, including a liberal New
York would do this, But it's it's I think long
term it does not bode well for Democrats nationally. You know,
Democrats won big victories in New Jersey and Virginia, but
and there was a lot of hope that New Jersey
might be an upset. It didn't happen. But you know,
(02:31):
tomorrow morning, nobody's going to remember who the who these
new governors of Virginia and New Jersey are. But the
fact for Democrats is that man Donnie is not going
to be the face of the Democratic Party because there's
going to be microscopic uh scrutiny and coverage of what
he does. Is mayor of New York, and I'm not
(02:52):
that familiar with the New York City Council, but it
scribes me he's probably going to get what he wants,
and it's going to drive New York into the tank
and Democrats don't have to be either for what he
does or against them, and they're going to be afraid
to be against them because there will be primaries against them.
So I think that long term this is a problem
(03:14):
for the Democratic Party. Last night was not any fun
from what the watching New Jersey and Virginia go down
that I think long term it's a bigger problem for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I feel exactly the same way Dick. The Democrats.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
They can spike the football, celebrate today they won the battle,
but long term, to your point, you know, winning that
war in figurative terms on the political landscape when they
have what they acknowledge to be this infighting between the
old guard and the new the more maybe somewhat moderate
old establishment liberal Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer wing of the party,
(03:48):
even if King Jefferies, I think, tries to mold himself
into that part of it against this new Democratic socialist
Bernie Sanders aoc Zorn Mundanni wing and the power struggle
that will now ensue because these Democratic Socialists as they
call themselves, they have enjoyed now some success and this.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
May prove their point.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And I want to kind of drill down on what
you said about the upcoming primaries. There's been a lot
of scuttle butt about AOC possibly launching a primary challenge
of Chuck Schumer for his Senate seat, and here's what
she had to say last night about the old Guard.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I think is.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So impressive about what Zaoran Mamdani accomplished tonight, as well
as the entire movement of New Yorkers that came out
to vote for him, is that he had to not
just defeat a Republican, he had to defeat a Republican
and the old guard of the Democratic Party at the
same time. He was fighting a war on two fronts
and not just one. And he's still won resounding way.
(04:46):
And I think the message that that sends is that
the Democratic Party cannot last much longer by denying the future,
by trying to undercut our young, by trying to undercut
a next generation of diverse and upcoming Democrats that have
(05:07):
the parties, the actual party, the actual electorate and voters support.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Nicole Millia Takis made the observation Dick that this is
a party, the Democrats that tried to placate this radical
left wing element of their party kind of pat them
on the head, thank them for playing Nancy Pelosi was
really good at this, at inviting the squad in but
then putting them in their place when the time came
and stuff had to get done. Now it's as if
(05:32):
they've commandeered leadership in the party because they have had
this success. They view it as something they can build on,
and I think they're getting a little bit more froggy
in terms of their attempts, perhaps to overthrow the traditional
party line establishment leadership.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
What say you no, I totally agree and listen. I
think she is going to either challenge Senator Humer in
a Democratic primary next year or frankly, Ryan, I think
she might run for president, and given where the Democratic
Party is right now, I would not discount her winning
the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty eight. She has become
(06:13):
a fundraising juggernaut. She gets huge crowns across the country.
They're all Democratic socialists who show up, of course, but
I do not underestimate AOC. First of all, I think
she would knock off Humor in a primary, in fact,
that she might drive him out of the race. Team
I just decided to chuck it in. Wow, But I
(06:36):
think she got a next to one chance at number
one being a US Senator or number two being the
Democratic nominee. I do not think she could be elected
to the presidency in twenty twenty eight. I do not
think she's electable nationwide in general election. But I damn
sure thinks that she could be the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, Dick Wadham's joining US, former chair of the Republican
Party here in Colorado and the architect of the winning
campaign for John Thun against Tom Dashel back in two
thousand and four. Just because of that perspective that you bring, Dick,
I want you to hear Ken Martin, the current chair
of the DNC, as he tries to thread this needle, when,
to his credit, Jake Tapper was pinning him down on
(07:13):
the details of a lot of the geriatric aspect of
leaders in the Democratic Party and whether it's time for
them to step aside.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Here's that exchange.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
You say, new new Democratic Party, and I can't help
but notice that Governor Alec Cheryl is fifty three, and
Governor Alex Spamberger is forty six, and Mayor Elec Mamdani
is thirty four. Your party, though, has a lot of
people in it who just will not retire. They're in
their seventies, they're in their eighties. There's a New York
(07:44):
Magazine story about it right now about all the members
of the House and Senate in your party in particular,
who just won't retire. Is the age of your candidates
that won tonight? Gavin Newsom's fairly young himself, also, Is
that also part of what's going on here?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Look, it's not a question of age, you know, because
at the end of the day, what people want right
is they want fighters. The divide right now in our
party is not ideological, nor is it age.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The divide right now is between.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Those who are fighting and those who are sitting on
the sidelines. You know, I reject this idea. There's plenty
of older elected officials and older candidates frankly, who are
fighting and what Democrats want and frankly, what Americans want
right now as fighters. People are going to stand up
and use the power they have to actually fight for
their communities, fight for their families. That's the true divide
right now. So I reject this agism that's out there
(08:37):
right There's plenty of young people who are elected office,
who are doing nothing right with the power they have,
just like there are plenty of older candidates and elected
officials who are using the power they have to make
a difference. So, look, I understand what you're saying. What
people want is fighters, and we need more fighters in
the Democratic Party. And you saw those fighters emerge tonight
in races across the country.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Ken Martin says fight and fighters several times in that answer,
dick into me that means fighting Donald Trump. Well, they
won't have that boogeyman to fight anymore the next time
around in twenty twenty eight in the presidential level, they'll
still used it as a cudgel and they'll get a
lot of voters out in twenty twenty six campaigning against Trump.
But you've got to stand for something. And this is
(09:18):
where my part of the analysis comes in, which I'd
like you to kind of break down. There is not
really a gen X millennial element to the Democratic Party
that isn't veering off course hard to the left. I'm
talking about maybe a guy like John Fetterman or even
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who might be very palatable to
the masses across the country, but they have no path
(09:38):
within the Democratic Party because it's as hard and as
far as you're willing to go to the left to
be able to placate that radical fighting element of that base,
like we've seen Gavin Newsom struggle with like do I
go to the middle, do I have Charlie Kirk on
my podcast?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Or do I go back hard to the left?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Do I redistrict California like we saw a prop fifty
last night? How do you analyze all of that from
the Democratic perspective on what the past af forward is
for them?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, I agree, Ryan.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Will.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I would agree with the Democratic National Chairman on one
thing that when you look at the Bernie Sanders, I
mean you look at what is the eighty years old
and he's still immensely popular in the Democratic Party. And
one of the reasons I think he is is that
he is an unapologetic democratic socialist and he and he
and he promotes that agenda. So I think that there
(10:27):
is a side of what the DNC chairman says is
that it is actually true that Democrats are looking they're
looking for the hard left, They're looking for the democratic
socialists and who will take that site? Now, I think
most of them are younger. As you point out that,
I think that they that it's more of an I know,
(10:48):
I think it's more of a question of ideology than
even you. I will say this though, about Mamdani as well.
He is a he's a very dynamic guy. He's very
he's very articulate. He wore a suit the entire campaign,
did not look like a nutty socialist. He always had
(11:13):
a smile on his face. I mentioned that because I
don't think a Bernie Sanders like candidate, somebody who was
eighty years old, the socialist, would have won that election.
I do think I think that the personal qualities of
manban Mamdonnie, and you have to give him that. I
think it serves him well. I'm not sure he would
have done as well if he had been just another
(11:34):
Bernie Sanders out there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Dick Wadams our guest, former chair of the Republican Party
right here in Colorado and longtime political consultant for Republican
candidates nationwide and right here in Colorado as well. One
more on the national front here one of Zoron Mumdani's predecessors,
Bill de Blasio, who was much maligned in his exit
from office. Eric Adams serving in between, but he fell
out of favor with New Yorkers and their voters, although
(11:58):
he moderated his positions quite a bit, and that might
have been to his detriment. But it goes to your
point here, Dick, of this cult of personality that Zoron
mumdani was building, despite his youth presenting himself.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Is you know, very well educated, which he is.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He's well spoken, like you said, but that he is
able to wallpaper over these very dark aspects of what
socialism truly is. Here's what Bill de Blasio had to
say about Mumdanie's win.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Last night was last night game changing, earth shattering or
just a good night?
Speaker 9 (12:30):
No more than just a good night, because what happened
here was Trump was on the ballot basically everywhere. He
couldn't campaign anywhere for even the candidates he wanted to
because his approval is really tanking. He says the shutdown
in his comment, Well, guess what, the voters are blaming
him for the shutdown. Also, so what this is is
a reset. Really, it's an opening, a huge opening for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
All over the country.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
And also, let's be blunt, as a Democrat, we were
kind of in the wilderness. In the first few months
of the Trump era, we were stumbling about kinda and we
were stumbling about. But this is not only a shot
in the arm, it's it's literally the evidence that we
can now go on the offensive.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That we have a message that works.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
And I think Zara in particular, this was a kitchen
table campaign. It's so funny. There was no identity politics,
there was no social issues. It was the rent. It
was how you pay for food, it was how you
get to work.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It was all these really.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Basic things that I think I'm going to help democrats.
Democrats get back to working class and middle class voters
all over the country.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But the big question, how are you going to pay
for it? Bill? I mean, that's es central to all
of those you know solutions.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
The part that I will say, I do agree with
Dick and last night, and we've been talking about this,
you and me throughout these last several election cycles. Trump
is always on the ballot, except when he's not personally,
then his voters, that coalition, they don't show up, and
I think that was the case again last night. But
those who despise Trump, that are motivated, that are energized
against him, they show up in massive numbers and with
(14:02):
the lay of the land last night as we saw it, Virginia,
New Jersey, New York City, even the California ballot proposal.
This is all driven by that anti Trump kind of
energy that turned out last night.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So how do you break that down from the Trump angle?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
He couldn't afford build a Blasio's right if he wouldn't
come out and actively campaigned for or endorse whin some sears,
that would have hurt her rather than helped her. Same
for Jack Cheddarelli in New Jersey. Same for Andrew Cuomo,
I guess in New York City. So how do you
analyze the Trump factor in all of this?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Well, I agree. Let me mention one thing about the
Bosio comments. That was one thing that Mandani did. He
stayed away from social issues, I mean, and he confines
his approach to affordability and then his view of that
now it's off the chart socialists and it This isn't
going to work when he tries to apply it. But
(14:58):
in terms of his day to day rhetoric, he tried.
He talked about issues that I think did concern New Yorkers.
Now he's going to fail because socialism always failed. But
that once again he was very presentable. He's very articulous,
and he stuck to issues and didn't get into the
social issues. Now, in terms of Trump's I think you're right.
(15:18):
I think Democrats are very motivated to go vote right
now for whatever reason. I think Republicans were not last night.
Across the country, Democrats, you know, they hate Trump so much, Ryan,
They're going to show up, and they did last night.
(15:38):
And of course a different dynamic in New York because
the New York is so democratic. I think only ten
percent of the electorate is even a Republican in New York,
so some was irrelevant what Republicans do in New York.
But no, the intensity of Democratic opposition to Trump is
very deep, and that's an advantage in an off year
(16:01):
election like we had last night.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Dick Wadham's our guest.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
One more analysis from the local perspective. Hearing Colorado, Dick,
and we noticed like Danielle Jorinski lost her seat in
the Aurora City council race last night along with her
conservative counterpart, and that city move left. We saw a
sweep of the Douglas County school Board, which.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I know statewide.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Not a lot of people may be paying attention to that,
but it's a Bellweather county and for that to all
go one direction speaks volumes. And then we saw props
l L and MM the boondoggle school lunch program. They're
going to jack up taxes on those making three hundred
thousand dollars or more of the My argument is it
only starts there.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What do you make of the Colorado results last night?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, it kind of goes back to that intensity against Trump.
Democrats showed up last night. And while I can't I
don't have any figures to back up what I'm about
to say, but I have a feeling there is a
suppressed turnout of Republicans and those areas, especially maybe in
Douglas County. The what what is interesting, Ryan, is that
(17:04):
the West wing groups that have pumped so much money
into local races, as they did when they got control
of the Aurora City Council several years ago, and then
they allst control the Conservatives, they didn't play that hard
last night and this selection in Aurora, and then you
mentioned Douglas County. Yeah, I mean it's frankly, it's very
concerning and and it shows continued, potential deterioration of of
(17:29):
our Republican advantage in in Douglas County. But uh, of
course you know it will be the auction will that
will have a year from now. We can't make any
predictions on what's going to happen next year because one
year is an eternity in politics, and we'll see what
the the what the game is all about.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Then, Dick Wadham's tremendous wealth of experience brought to the table.
We always appreciate his insights and contributions to the program.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Great stuff as always, Dick, thanks for taking the time.
Speaker 10 (17:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
All right, looking forward to, like I said, those twenty
twenty six elections, and then Dick stated, exactly right, there's
a lot of time between now and then. A lock
can happen, a lot can change, and one of those
candidates for governor.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Is going to be joining us.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Coming up next, that's Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, who I am
going to ask the question, who is Victor Marx? Now
I've only mentioned him in passing on this program because
we have been unable to this point to get him
to come on either this show or the Dan Kaplis Show.
And I've been looking into who Victor Marx is, what
his background is, what he brings to the table. He's
already scored endorsements from Heidi Ganaal and Lauren Bobert and
(18:36):
the money that should come along with that. We know
Barb has done a pretty good job in her own
right of fundraising.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But we'll see where the race stands.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
From her eyes when we come back after these words
against Senator barbar Kirkmeyer joining us Live Aaron Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
The median family cost of a single FAI house in
Colorado is six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The cost
of childcare in Colorado is twenty thousand dollars on average.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That is a disgrace.
Speaker 11 (19:11):
We are the fifth most expensive state in America to
buy a single family house. We are the fourth, I
think most expensive state in America.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
To buy childcare. That is a disgrace. Oh and we
have to address.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
It because people aren't going to be able to live
in this state if we don't.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
Senator Michael Bennett dropping an F bomb on a podcast,
do you make me sounding pretty tough for Senator Michael Bennett.
What maybe he's trying to shed this counselor Mackie from
south Park Image Tech cruise get a philibuster, we get
people drowning.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Ben does a character right.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You hear this and then it's like the arsonist who
burned the house down, And I wonder who could have
done this?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The Democrat have been running the state for how long?
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
These are all their policies.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Cost of living in Colorado is skyrocketed time your watch,
Senator Bale.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You wouldn't know, though, because you don't come back here
very often.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
And he bristled at a question from Eerlin Rob Dawson
in the KOA news room not that long ago, in
an event it was agitated him so much so Rob
asked the question, you know, do you think you know
people are kind of rediscovering you? And he didn't take
kindly to that, and then another female reporter started to
ask a question and no.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, no, wait, I'm not telling you. Yeah, it's not
really fair.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And if you're laying betting odds right now, Michael Bennett
is likely to be the nominee of the Democratic Party.
I think I would favor him if I were setting
those odds against Phil None. The Wiser battle of at treasure,
of course, and if I were laying odds, I would
say our next guest is probably the prohibitive favorite to
be the Republican nominee, so you might see them on
a debate stage together, so maybe it's a little bit
(20:55):
of practice for her. Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, a guest on
Ryan Schuling Live. Senator, thank you for your time as always.
Speaker 13 (21:02):
Thank you, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Good afternoon, Yeah, a great afternoon.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
When we get to hear Michael Bennett dropping the F bomb,
what do you think of that?
Speaker 13 (21:10):
I think it was very crass, and I just you know,
I posted about it myself and I just thought it
was pretty rich considering his party has been in charge
and had total control for the last seven years, and
you know, we're all paying the price for it, so
he's right. I mean, I actually agree with him. It
is a disgrace. I'm not going to use the other
word he used, but it's a disgrace because affordability has collapsed.
(21:32):
Small businesses are struggling, working families are being forced out,
and that is a disgrace. And it's all in his
party that you know, he's now essentially kind of condemning,
which again in a very crass way. But you know,
I've been listening to Senator Bennett us Senator Bennett three
(21:52):
terms basically, and that's what he has to say. But
you know, there's no light between him and what the
Democrats have done in the last seven years with their
total control. His platform looks a heck of a lot
like all the stuff they just passed. So you know,
I guess he's talking about his own platform as well.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So yeah, even Comrade Kyle Clark of nine News has
compared him to a cicada that comes out every thirteen
years and then goes away for another thirteen But Senator
kirk Meyer, to be fair, Senator Bennett, yeah, he thinks
he has a solution here, So let's just see what
he has in mind.
Speaker 11 (22:26):
I don't think there is a one size fitz al
Oh approach that's going to work.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't think it will work.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
I think that what Lakewood is going to do, and
what Breckenridge is going to do, and what Lineman is
going to do, and what Durango and Grand Junction are
going to do are all and Alamosa are all going
to look different.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Now, what I take from that, Barb is like when
Ron Burgundy calls out, Brick Tamlin, are you just naming
towns in the state of Colorado so that we think
you care about these towns like he was just randomly going,
I know this Stone and Durango, And it gives me
that sense like it's still really sticking with him. That
a lot of people, and I think people from within
(23:07):
his own party, and if Phil Wiser were smart, he
would use this in a campaign against Bennett believe that
he doesn't come back here enough or attend to the
needs of the people who live here in the state
of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Do you agree?
Speaker 13 (23:20):
I absolutely agree, and I'll even go one one farther
than that, when you ask everybody what has this Again,
he's been in office seventeen years, he'll be one of
our longest you know, us senators from the state of Colorado,
who longest serving senators. And when you ask him what
he's done, nobody can tell you. So not only do
they not see him, they can't even tell you what
(23:41):
he's done in his terms back there. And then you know, again,
I've been following him because, as you know, I'm running
for governor. Like you said, he's running for governor, So
you know, I kind of listen to see what he says,
and he likes to talk about how he's gonna take
the fight to Donald Trump. I thought, well, you're in
the perfect spot. You're in Washington, d C. Why don't
you just staying there fighting it? But so I just
don't understand him. And again, you know, I think he
(24:03):
was trying to say, you know, he's going to go
work with local government and partner with him, which which
is a great deal. But he doesn't say that necessarily,
that clearly on his web page, and in fact, his
web page is full of stuff like I just said
that basically, we've you know, the Democrats have passed in
the last seven years here in the legislature that have
made us unaffordable. And on the childcare issue, don't even
(24:25):
get and started. I mean, the inefficiencies that have happened
through this police administration and the Democrats is so great.
And then he wants to call him out like what
has he done to help the situation? There are federal programs,
it's called the childcare program, SEECAP program is what it's called.
What has he done to help that situation? I haven't
(24:47):
heard it, and I was a County commissioner for twenty
years and had to help implement that program. So where's
he been? You know, he wants to call everybody out again.
My point was, Senator Bennett, is we don't need a
third term for Polis essentially, because that's what it looks
like to me.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer trying to prevent exactly that. And she is,
of course one of the front runners in the Republican
primary for the nomination for governor.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Now Sheriff Steve.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Raimes is going to be filling in for Dan Kaplis tomorrow,
and he has unearthed some audio that I shared with you, Barb,
and I want to give listeners a sneak preview because
I've been asking the question and I will ask it
of you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Who is Victor Marx?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, this guy who is very successful in his own
right individually, he has garnered the endorsements of Hidie Ganall
and Lauren Bobert. No small feet there. And this is
a taste of a video that Steve Raimes will be
sharing the entirety of about a minute from this as
he was driving.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
I believe this. Some people ask me, They're like, hey,
so of these things that happened to you in your life.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's pretty wild. You know, they're all true.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
I'm like, unfortunately, yes, And then they're like, are he
exaggerating me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, I don't think so. Maybe as I get older,
I get some details.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
But I get a case in point today, I literally
just got pulled over police officer. It was a good stop,
don't get me wrong, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It was al righteous stop. But this isn't my vehicle,
and I'd.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
Been at it, and uh.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
This isn't my vehicle, so he put over for it's
not it's not registered.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
So I'm literally going, okay.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So he's pulled over in a vehicle that he states
there toward the end it's not his. And when you
find out the story behind that, it's quite eye opening.
So I ask you, Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, who is Victor Marx.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
I I truly don't have any idea. I mean, the
guy has not been vetted. He I've only seen him
at one event and he showed up late and stood
in the back and listened to what myself and three
other candidates had to say and then came out and
basically repeat it what we said. So I know he
was invited to a forum up in Larimer County, and
(27:14):
he was given every opportunity to participate, either in person
or to zoom in or to do a video and
answer some questions, and he just he said no, he
wouldn't do it. So I have no idea who he is.
And like I said, I've only met him once, sort of,
I don't know who he is, and I don't know
that anybody knows who he is. And you know whatever,
(27:39):
So Lauren Bobert, you know, is supporting him. I have
the support of former Governor Bill Owens as I run
for governor, and he actually knows what a governor is
supposed to do. So I'm feling pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Good about that.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Does it surprise you, though, because I'm really coming at
this objectively, Barb, I don't have a horse in this race.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You know that I don't know the guy.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I've invited him to come on the show as of yet,
that has not been accepted. You come on my show
all the time, so you're always welcome to do so.
But did it surprise you or disappoint you right out
of the gate?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, like you said, I'm got to vet this guy.
Who is this? Where did he come from. What did
he do?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And Lauren Bilbert and Heidi Gannall, the former nominee for governor,
endorses him right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Did that surprise you?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (28:22):
It was surprising, you know because I know I know
both of those folks, and I spoke with both of
them about, you know, supporting my race, and you know,
and I appreciate when people say, look, I know a
lot of people in the race, I'm just not going
to get involved.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And then this guy that.
Speaker 13 (28:38):
Nobody knows kind of comes out of the blue and
they endorse him. So it's surprising and it's disappointing. And then,
like I said, nobody knows this individual. I mean, nobody
knows really anything about him other than some of the
things he has sent out about himself. But you know,
some of it kind of seems questionable, and he would
think that people would do better vetting. I mean all
(28:59):
the rest of this well, I would say myself and
certainly Greg Lopez and represent a Bombs and Senator Basley
and Sheriff Mike Sel. You know, we've all been vetted
to some extent and run through races, and you know,
one are races and that type of thing. And you know,
even the other people that are in the race. I mean,
I got in my first week and I was at
(29:20):
the Denver Press Club for a forum with you know,
twelve other people and went up and introduced myself, kind
of got to know them all. Talked to him a
little bit about you know, you know, why were they running,
you know, and make sure could we support each other
depending on who's the nominee kind of stuff, And had
a really good conversation with most of them. But this guy,
I just don't even know. So he doesn't show up
(29:41):
to anything that I'm at, and I think I go
to a lot of things sowhere. Yeah, I mean it's
just I don't get it. I don't get it, and
you know, I just don't get it. So but you know,
they get to do what they want to do, and
I would I would strongly suggest everyone that before you
go indorse some when you should know who they are,
(30:01):
or before you support somebody, you should know who they are.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, we're looking forward to asking those questions. Victor Marks
a candidate, a high profile coming into this race, and
Sheriff Steve Rings will be talking a lot more about
this tomorrow, filling in for Dan Kaplis. I'm just asking
the open ended question, who is Victor Marx. He's welcome
on the show anytime. Just as our guest who you
just heard, Bob Kirkmeyer, the Senator. You can find out
more about her campaign for governor at Kirkmeyer for Colorado
(30:26):
dot com. That's Kirkmeyer N E y E R FO
R Colorado dot com. Bob, always a great conversation. Thank
you so much for your time.
Speaker 13 (30:33):
As always, Yes, thank you and thanks what you're doing
to keep the listeners engaged and let them know what's
going on in the state of Colorado. Greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
We greatly appreciate you, and we are certainly just trying
to do just that. A time out, A lot of
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Closing up shop here. You don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here. Jesse Thomas under your signed
helping me out once again today. I always appreciate his
contributions and yours five seven seventy three nine on the
text line our thanks to Senator Barb Kirkmeyer for joining
us in the previous segment.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Again, you've got an open invitation.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
There you go. Here's your karaoke moment for this ones
that you're welcome. Open invitation to Victim Marx. And why
I say that is because I know, and I like
and I highly respect both Heidi and All and Representative
Lauren Bilbert. But when a candidate to me drops out
of the sky, I don't know who this guy is.
(33:12):
Now I'll admit I have blind spots, just like anybody else.
Maybe I should have known who this guy was, Maybe
I should have seen him coming, but I didn't. And
I got to tell you, you're listening to somebody yours truly,
who is fairly well connected, I would say in Republican
politics in this state that I know most of the
people through doing the show over seven years with Dan
(33:32):
as well as a producer, reaching out, making contexts, meeting people,
you know, seeing them in person, having those conversations. Never
have I ever interacted with, encountered, seen, heard Victor Marx.
And then he just drops out of the sky, and
I see all this.
Speaker 14 (33:48):
Momentum behind him on social media, Facebook and TikTok and
Twitter and Instagram and the videos and these audios, and
you know he's in Hawaii here and he's over there
and he's doing a mission.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And I want to know more, and I know you
want to know more, but I want to know the
why behind.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Why is he running?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Why are all these people endorsing him right out of
the gate, Like Barb said, she got to look for
endorsements from the two women that I talked about, who
I both considered to be friends of mine, and Victor.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Who is Victor Marx?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
He owes it to you the listeners, to come on
a program like this one, or with Dan Capli's or
somewhere and conduct an interview and answer questions, have a
give and take conversation, no matter how or who he
wants to do that with. I just hope that it's
sooner rather than later for all of our sakes. This
one says you should do an hour of your show
(34:38):
as mister Mackie Gary.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That wouldn't that be the.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Same thing as Michael Bennett might have to give him
an equal time.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't know. SOG means I got to get out
of here.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Dan Capls coming up next, saw joining you tomorrow more
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