November 11, 2025 • 35 mins
His wife, Deborah Flora, is an award-winning filmmaker and joins Ryan weekly as a regular panelist on 'The Right Side of Hollywood.' Jonathan Flora is a veteran of the 82nd Airborne and producer at Walt Disney Studios for over 20 years. He joins Ryan to provide his perspective on his friend, actor Gary Sinise - a hero to disabled veterans with his work following the portrayal of Lieutenant Dan in 'Forrest Gump' - on this Veterans Day.
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By contrast, former First Lady Michelle Obama delivers a series of tone-deaf remarks complaining about life during her time in the White House. She makes the insufferable Meghan Markle seem charming and relatable by comparison.
Gary Sinise Foundation
By contrast, former First Lady Michelle Obama delivers a series of tone-deaf remarks complaining about life during her time in the White House. She makes the insufferable Meghan Markle seem charming and relatable by comparison.
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
Sounds of guns artillery falling silent at the eleventh hour
of the eleventh day of the eleventh month in nineteen eighteen,
one hundred seven years ago, marking the end of the
First World War. Here in this Veterans Day edition of
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Ryan Shuling Live, paying tribute to those of you who
have served, to those of you who are family members
of those who have served. My grandfather, Byron Shuling, also
known as the vend serving in the United States Army
during World War II, stationed in Great Britain, and I've
joked about when he came back. He made so many
friends British, Canadian, American soldiers over there and had so
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many stories to tell. I was lucky enough to sit
on the front porch of his main cabin and the lodge.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
There three cabins that he had at.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Endecai Lake in Ontario, and he came upon those cabins
Evans from a Canadian war buddy of his, who tragically
passed very young in life, on the age that I
am right now, I believe a heart attack, and the
Canadian veterans widow did not want.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
To put up with the upkeep of these.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Cabins, so my grandfather bought them at the time for
five thousand dollars. It was quite a hefty sum back then.
We're talking like nineteen sixty right around then. And I
had the chance to share in those fishing expeditions with
him on that five mile lake. Had to sit on
the front porch of that main lodge and interview him
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in part about his service in World War Two. Didn't
speak about it much, but when he did, he chose
to talk about the good times. And he was a
training base there in Great Britain. He was a little
bit older than the mean enlisted men who served. He
was born in nineteen fifteen, so when he served in
World War Two, he's right on the age of thirty.
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And he helped train those who would storm the beach
of Normandy in nineteen forty five. And he made great
friends along the way, great stories and then the sayings
that he picked up. I have to think there are
some kind of amalgam of Canadian, British and American folklore,
so they don't all make sense, but they sure were funny,
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and it was great to get to know my grandfather
who served in World War Two. There was also the
war in Vietnam. This one is a longer story when
it comes to my father, who was drafted but did
not serve. That was not a popular war. My grandfather
wanted him to serve because my grandfather had served. My
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grandmother wanted my dad to escape to the cabins in
Ontario and waited out. She was terrified that my dad
had been drafted for the war in Vietnam. They had
a going away party for him and everything, and he
was to be shipped off to Saigon or wherever else
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from a bus stop in Indiana. It was late in
the night, and a bunch of the drafted enlisted men
and this was intriguing to me because my dad was
a college graduate and generally speaking, those types were not
subject to the draft, or they didn't get drafted as
much or as often. Late in the night, he went
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through a physical examination, and he had been playing basketball
with some friends, one.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Of which you may know is.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Steve Garvey, the longtime legendary first baseman for the Los
Angeles Dodgers and later the San Diego Padres. In the
course of playing some pickup basketball, my dad had broken
his pinky finger on one of his hands, and he
was explaining this to the doctor conducting the physical before
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he was to be set off for Vietnam, and he
explained that there had been a pen inserted in the finger,
and before he had a chance to explain any further,
he was sent back with a Vermont was the only
young man on that bus going back home to Michigan
from Indiana. The pen had been removed, but my dad
didn't get a chance to say that part. And you
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talk about butterfly effect. Had he finished that sentence, very likely,
no matter what happened to him over there, I would
not be here today.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So I think about that a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Also think about those who did serve in Vietnam and
then unpopular war, and how they were treated mistreated by
those who awaited them upon their return and blamed them
for the unpopular war itself. And I think back to
a pivotal film that was made just over thirty years ago,
and a pivotal role that was played by Gary Sinise
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as Lieutenant Dan in Forrest Gump, and this scene in particular,
we'll start.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
With, they gave you Congrational Medal of God.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Now that's Lieutenant Dion, Lieutenant Die.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
They gave you the Congressional.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Medal of Honor.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
He is so they surely did.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
They gave you an imbecile, a moron who goes on
television and makes a fool out of himself in front
of the whole damn country the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, sir, well that's just perfect.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Well, I just got one thing to say to that God,
bless America, ownA die.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Lieutenant Dan said he was living in a hotel and
because he didn't have no.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Legs, he spent most of his time exercising his arm.
Speaker 10 (07:00):
I don't care what was saying.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, what do you do ahead, New York, Lieutenant Dane.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I'm living off the government.
Speaker 11 (07:11):
Deevil?
Speaker 9 (07:14):
Hey, Hey you walking? Hey, get out.
Speaker 12 (07:28):
I stagged with Lieutenant Dane and celebrated holidays.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Right here to hurry home.
Speaker 13 (07:37):
Don't want you?
Speaker 12 (07:42):
And you found Jesus here, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I didn't know I was supposed to be looking for him.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So that's all these cripples down at the VA, that's
all they ever talked about.
Speaker 11 (08:04):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
This Jesus, that.
Speaker 12 (08:08):
If I found Jesus.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
They even had a priest and come and talk to me.
He said, God is listening, but I have to help
myself now.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
If I accept.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Jesus into my heart.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'll get to walk beside him in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Did you hear what I said, walk.
Speaker 12 (08:34):
Beside him in the Kingdom of Heaven?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, kiss my crippled ass.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
God is listening.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What a crooked I'm going to heaven? Lieutenant Dan?
Speaker 12 (08:50):
Oh, Well, before you go, why don't you get your
ass down in the corner and get us another bottle
of rip?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, sir, Lieutenant Dan.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
The character arc is fascinating to watch as you juxtapose
it with Forest, who has this innocence about him, and
it allows, I think, for Gary Sinise to really explore
the depths of this character's despair. When he comes home
from Vietnam, he's lost his legs. Forrest Gump saves him
from the forest, the jungle of Vietnam where he intended
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to die like his ancestors before him, and he cursed
Forest for saving his life, for stealing from him what
he thought was his destiny.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And then this, would you like to see what Lieutenant
Dan looks like?
Speaker 11 (09:42):
Well, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Would park bench cover of Fortune Magazine, Bubba Gump Shrimp.
Speaker 11 (09:52):
Company, And let me tell you something about Lieutenant Dan. Forest.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
I never thanked you for saving my life.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
They're on a boat and Lieutenant Dan is talking to
Forrest Gump.
Speaker 11 (10:32):
He never actually said so, but I think he made
his peace with God.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Of course, at the ending, Lieutenant Dan would get new
legs and a new wife and a new life, and
he came full circle. And unfortunately a lot of our
disabled American veterans do not. And it is a sad story,
and it was told in this film, and it moved
Gary Sony so much it changed the trajectory of his life.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
I remember walking into the hospitals the first time and
meeting service members who had been blown up, messing their legs,
just like Lieutenant Dan. They just wanted to talk about
the movie. I realized, Okay, no, that's the way that
I can communicate with their service members. They want to
talk about the positive story of Lieutenant Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
In the end, what happens to him.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
He's standing up again, he's moving on, he's sober, he's married,
and he's put his war years behind him. You know,
when Lieutenant Dan talks about his destiny, maybe there is
a little bit of destiny in the fact that I
would play that character and then that character would become
so much a part of the mission in my life
of supporting our wounded, and that's what we work every
single day to do at the Gary Sinese Foundation for
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the men and women who serve our country to try
to help them with their journey.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And as you may know from conversations we've had on
the right side of Hollywood, the Flora's very good friends,
very close with Gary Sinise Debra Flora each Friday on
this program during this hour and joining us now eighty
second Airborne veteran himself Ohio National Guard twelve years he served,
and he formed Lamplight Entertainment with his wife, Deborn, was
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a producer with Walt Disney Studios for over twenty years,
and we're fortunate to have him on this Veteran's Day,
joining us on Ryan Schuling Live, Jonathan Flora our guest, Jonathan,
thanks for your time, Hey, Ryan, thank you so.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
Much for having me on. I really do appreciate it.
This is a very special day.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It is, and that was a very special film to
me because I think it really changed the conversation about
how we view veterans when they come back after they've
served our country put their lives on the line for us.
How important in your mind was that role of Lieutenant
Dan portrayed by Gary Sonise and in that big film
Forrest Gump from nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 11 (12:40):
Well, I think it was very important because medical assistants
in battlefield triage had banned so much. Now that our
guys and gals are surviving even more serious wounds than
they would have probably died and bled out on the battlefield.
So a lot of these guys are coming back with
major body parts missing, sometimes double triple even quadruple amputees.
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And Gary, as he touched a little bit on the
promo that I heard you play, he had no idea
what he was stepping into. It was an element of
just have faith walk with him because people advancement in
CG people thought he was a double amputee because it
was done so well in the movie that he shows
up and he's walking in everything, and he just became
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so inspired by individuals of the disabled veterans of America
that he basically found his calling in life.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And Gary's foundation you can find out more about it
online Gary Sinise Foundation dot org. You spell his last
name SI n I S. Jonathan, What can you tell
us about Gary Sonise the man, the person that you've
interacted with, that you've worked with, and just what he
means to this community of veterans.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 11 (13:56):
We met at a film testil in Los Angeles where
deborn I had done a short film that won an award,
and part of the award was being able to meet
Gary backstage, and we just took up a great conversation
and then I found out how much he did with
the military. I was on the advisory board for the
Gied Film Festival. And what you realized with Gary immediately,
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and then, of course, time is always a revealer of deceit.
There's no deceit there. Gary's one of those guys that
had all the success of Hollywood and never became Hollywood.
He stayed that small town, local guy. And when he
realized what it meant to people for him to show
up and just give them a piece of home, just
give them encouragement, let him know that not everybody's turned
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against them in the war like so much would be
on the news. He was embraced by the military and
the veterans and US veterans. OURBS meter is finally tuned.
They know who's there for a photo op, and they
know who's the real deal. And Gary truly is the
real deal. And when he goes on to form his band,
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the Lieutenant Dan Band, he couldn't have a better name
because people didn't know Gary Sonise, but they knew Lieutenant
Dan and he would get he would get that all
the time. And now he has more Bob Hope. I'm
more USO appearances than Bob Hope. He truly is the
Bob Hope at this generation. He'll never say that, but
when he brings a piece of home to people, and
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when I went to Iraq with him, he goes, anybody
can go to Bagdab, but I'm not going to knock
up and he goes, but let's go where nobody goes.
We went to Ford Operating Basis where there's like fifty
dusty Marines and nobody visits him there. And it was
like the world stopping for these guys.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Jonathan Flora, our guest, himself a National Guard veteran for
the eighty second Airborne and Ohio National Guard.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
There are so many organizations out there, and a lot
of them do a lot of good, like Gary Sonesse
and his foundation that we've discussed locally. I'll be talking
a little bit more after this bottom of the hour
break about a local group called American hero in Action.
My friend Dave Prophet runs that I donate to Tunnel
to Towers. I think that's a magnificent organization long time
standing disabled American veterans. There are other organizations out there.
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Are there any that you would recommend for listeners right
now that really want to make a difference, that want
to contribute something to our veterans who have given so
much to us.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
Well, to your point, there are so many that are
out there, and all of them have a little bit
of distinction. They kind of focus in a different area.
And I'm obviously a big fan of the Gary Sinisee Foundation,
having known him for so long, and he was the
first to come out building the smart homes with these
double and triple and quadruple amputees and Debor and I
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were so honored that he actually used our documentary The
Tenant Dan Band for the Common Good to launch his foundation.
But the main thing out there is sign something that
you're comfortable with, check and make sure that they're legitimate.
You know, there's been a couple of issues in some
where money was going to the end user, and that
happens across the board, unfortunately, but find something that really
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speaks to their heart, that's either in an area or
focuses on a demographic that really moves you emotionally, and
then jump in because there's no greater good than serving
somebody in need, especially when that person has put on
the uniform and may have gotten hurt defending our freedoms
and our liberties.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And again, on the Veteran's Day, if you want to
find out more about the Gary Sinese Foundation, easy to
find online Garysine Foundation dot org. Jonathan, the final minute
or so that we have left just a final word
from you on this Veterans Day.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And what people need to know about what this day means.
Speaker 11 (17:41):
Well, it's interesting because so many people will confuse Memorial
Day with Veterans Day. They'll thank veterans, and we certainly
always appreciate that, but Memorial Day is for those that
gave the ultimate sacrifice. Veterans Day is for those that
have served, those that are currently serving or maybe even
interested in getting into the military. And so when you
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do say thank you for your service, it means something
and obviously the benefit for us and then we say okay,
live a life worth defending. Go out there and do
some good. Like you talked earlier, let's grab an arr
and do something and we can help make our country better.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Lieutenant Dan Bann part of the Gary Sonise Foundation and
what they do, such great work and truly one of
the more remarkable individuals in Hollywood, and a feel good
story Gary Sonise and how much he has given back
to our veterans. Jonathan Flora helping him do that in
that cause and a veteran in his own right. So
thankful for your time today, your perspective and the stories.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Jonathan. Thank you for your service to our country and
thanks for joining us here today.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
Thanks Ran, It's really appreciative and it's an honorative Warnedy
uniform and support those that still are. Thank you for
your time and thanks for bringing attention to it.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Jonathan Flora there and Deborah Flora, he would say, his
better half joining us each and every Friday here on
the right side of Hollywood, and often she will share
stories about Gary Sinise and him being part of Friends
of Aid, but more importantly on this day, the foundation
that he started, and hopefully one day I'll have a
chance to have that conversation with him as well. Garysinise
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Speaker 4 (21:11):
Fiding Souldiers from the sky, fearless men who jump and die,
men who mean just what they say. The brave men.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Of the Green bewraid.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
Silver wings.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Up on their chest.
Speaker 11 (21:39):
These are men.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
America's vest.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
One hundred men will test today, but only three when
the Green bew raids.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I Yes, a salute trained to all of our veterans
surveys and who have served on this Veterans Day twenty
twenty five. Our thanks to Jesse Thomas for finding that
great music to come back with, and our thanks to
Jonathan floora part of the eighty second Airborne and the
Ohio National Guard, twelve year veteran himself joining us with
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his vantage point on Hollywood and one of the bright spots,
Gary Sinise, and again the Gary Sinise Foundation, if you'd
like to give, I really want to use this platform
as an opportunity for all of us to find out
more about the great work that Gary is doing Gary
Sinise Foundation dot org. It's ni Se Garysinesse Foundation dot org.
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As I mentioned, I donate monthly to Tunnel for Towers.
You also have the organization I've talked about, American Heroes
and Action. Dave Prophet, currently on a hunt, will join
me tomorrow. I'll give you a little more details on
that in just a minute or so. Tunnel to Towers
is another one. Disabled American Veterans is another group. All
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of these do great work on behalf of veterans, especially
those who have served to come back and then what
I think they should be at the front of the
line when it comes to those of us who are
taxpayers who provide services. This is where It really gets
my dander up about how we don't take care of
our veterans the way that we should.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The way that they deserve.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's the least that we can do for everything they've
done for us, and I feel very strongly about this issue.
I had a conversation earlier on a lighter note with
LeeAnne Morgan, and I found that to be so inspiring
and enlightening and fun that you'll hear the full convo
coming up at the top of the hour. But in
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real time, this is what happened. I'm in the neighboring
studio for Freedom ninety three seven over there, and she
dials in and I answer the phone, and we're not
even doing the interview yet, So keep this in mind.
This is all off the air pre interview conversation, and
she could not be sweeter.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Heart Denver, this is.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Ryan, Ryan, my darling. It's lateen.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh am, I glad to hear your voice. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 10 (24:10):
Honeys it is it snowing? What did they went out there?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know, we were just talking about this on my
show yesterday that this is one of the latest times
on the calendar that we have not yet had snow.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
Oh, what are all those ski resorts?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, see up there, they do, they get it and
they make it so the weather at that altitude is
a little bit better for that. And then we lived
down on the planes they call it here, so we
just haven't.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Had it down here.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Oh y'all haven't when, And y'all are usually when. The
last time I was on tour there and at the Paramount,
the Kansas City Chiefs got beat by.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Or Denver got beat by the Kansas City Cheese.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
Yes, and little Patrick Mahomes was playing with the flu
and they'd given him a bag of fluids. And I
remember everybody being torn up over the land because we
love our Denver, and say I got Nate finally Peyton
meaning yes, because I'm a Tennessee girl. And then he
played for yol and he was darling. I could talk football,
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not stance. I don't know that, but I like to
talk about people's personal business, football player's personal business.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
In that order.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Okay, Yeah, Like you know little Pengrimhome's family, you know,
crazy bless his hark. And then there he's leaning on
one foot trying to throw a football. Might get through anyway.
I didn't mean to get off on that team. Gent
I just remember that mall that game being played while
I was out there, and it was a huge snow.
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It was a huge snow, and people still came out
to my show, God love them.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I think I might have been at that game now
that you mentioned it was really cold that night, I
remember it. So Will are going to get you rocking
and rolling here with the intro. And what I did
was because I just noticed on the intro to your
Netflix special that you have your daughter introducing you, so
it's perfect for our purposes on radio. So yeah, I'm
going to have that with her voice, and then it
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leads into the typical trailer that you have.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So we'll get rolling here and then I'll bring you
right in.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
All right, you doll, Thank you, Thank you, LeAnn Honan,
Leanne Morgan much more coming up top of the hour.
Her Netflix special Unspeakable Things, dropping exactly one week ago
today and available to you on Netflix along with her
sitcom Leanne, which was just re upped for a second season.
And she's wrapping up her stand up to her and
she's promising me, as you heard right there, that she'll
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be coming back to Denver sometime soon in calendar year
twenty twenty six five seven seven three nine. You can
send your texts along you have a message for a
veteran or a thought you'd like to express for somebody
who has served. If you have served, I want to
hear from you as well. At five seven seven three nine.
There's a puncher's chance that my good buddy Hutch, a
Marine Corps veteran in his own right, having served over
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in Kosovo, will us about an hour from right now
if he gets out of work on time. So that's
the caveat there. Also, my friend Dave Prophet, he'll be
joining me tomorrow, a very instrumental local group that helps
our veterans American heroes in action. What they do is
they provide adventures for our service members, both those who
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served in the military and in law enforcement, and many
of whom struggle with mental health issues, and this provides
them with an unforgettable experience to go out and hunt
or fish or just enjoy nature. Currently, as I message Dave,
he was out on a hunt and I said, hey,
you want to come on and talk about Veterans Day
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in your group today, and he said, I would like
to do that. I'm out with a group of veterans
right now and a big game hunt in the mountains
of southwest Colorado. I don't know that I will have
a dependable signal for a phone call or interview, so
we're going to reschedule that conversation for tomorrow. And just
to tell you a little bit about his group that
he founded, American Heroes in Action, and you can find
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out more on their website by that very handle, American
Heroes Inaction dot org. And he recaps their summer, saying
that so far in twenty twenty five, they've already had
almost as many adventures as they had in all of
twenty twenty four. And that was just the beginning of
this fourth quarter of the year. In twenty twenty four,
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American Heroes in Action had fifty four adventures on the calendar.
On October third, when three veterans go off to Aidak Island, Alaska,
this is looking back now on a caribou hunt, that
would be number forty eight for the year. They go
quail hunting, pheasant hunting, duck hunting, a lot of game birds.
There's a delicious by the way, I'm just saying that
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as somebody who enjoys that The only way he says
here that they can hold that many adventures and serve
so many veterans and first responders is from donations from
people like you.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So I want to mention that website one more time.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We'll talk more in detail with about that coming up
tomorrow on this Veteran's Day.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Keep them in mind. American Heroes Inaction dot org.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, take this time out, and I would like you
to compare and contrast what we've heard, what we've talked about,
Gary Sinise, Jonathan Flora, Dave Prophet, American Heroes in Action,
Gary Sinese Foundation, Tunnel to Towers, those who have served us,
put their lives on the line for our country. Compare
and contrast that with the gall the audacity, not of hope,
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not that Barack Obama, but his wife, the First Lady,
the distinguished Michelle Obama. And just listen to how tone
deaf her complaints, not just first world problems, first lady problems,
and see if that's relatable to the common American, those
of us who live and breathe and work each day
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and try to pay our bills at the end of
the month. Listen to what she complains about and think
if you can relate to that at all, And my
answer would be no, We'll see what you think when
we come back wrapping an hour one of Ryan shuling
live after this, I.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Didn't really have that choices.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Firstly, every day, every time I was up as we
called it, you know, I was up for the public. Yes,
and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to
save time. Yes, you know, I know, having a glam team,
a trifecta, it feels like a luxury, but it was
a time and time this necessity. There's absolutely no way
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that I would be able to do my hair and
make up and have clothes ready that fit, you know,
because where is the woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yes, God forbid? Q Vice President Vance. Do you hear yourself? Michelle?
Speaker 11 (31:02):
Do you care?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Do you know what this sounds like?
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Step outside your narcissistic self for one minute and listen
to yourself and how this appears to the average American
struggling to get by.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Who you claim to represent. You are the bourgeoisie, and
you're complaining about it.
Speaker 14 (31:28):
You said, we were all too aware that as a
first black couple, we couldn't afford any missteps. Yeah, and
you also say as a black woman, I was under
a particularly white hot Claire, did you feel that for.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Sure, you can't afford to get anything wrong because you
didn't get the at least until the country came to
know us. We didn't get the grace that I think
some other families have gotten.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Find one critical media piece about Michelle Obama, aside from
far right type kind of fringe publications, mainstream media that
said anything remotely critical or negative about Michelle Obama. She
graced the cover of every magazine. I might add, Milania Trump,
who is gorgeous and a model, has not been on
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those same magazines. You were under stress and pressure hardly.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Also, I understood the symbolism of me wearing braids as
the former first Lady. I wasn't sure whether the country
was ready for it. It cares the Crown Act hadn't
been passed yet. There was a lot that we were
trying to do, and just like fashion, I didn't want
my hair to become a distraction.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
This is what you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
But I understood the significance of wearing braids to our
portrait unveiling. I wanted to send a message as well
to young women and to all of us as women,
that we should be the ones determining what is appropriate
for our hair, not our boss, not our workplace, not
some standard that doesn't even reflect us. Let us be
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the ones who make the decisions about how we want
our hair and if I want to wear it straight,
if I want bangs, if I want breaths.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I know you were the first lady, all due respect,
so tall, vegannite style. That means I can say whatever
I want here. You don't matter that much. People really
didn't care. Maybe some did, but most did not, at
least aside from all of that self absorbed obsession.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
She's modest, right, So.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
I wanted to take advantage of the fact that as
the first lady, Yes you can be smart and educated
and beautiful and sexy and interesting and all those things.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
And yes you can be a black.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Woman, a tall five to eleven black woman.
Speaker 13 (33:57):
Did you see the shoulders?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You miss that?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Because Brannia trump Ever referred to herself as sexy? Is
that even acceptable parlance for anybody to refer to yourself?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Hey, I made it okay to be sexy. Well, at
least she's a good person.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It wouldn't like endorse personally some nefarious scumbag.
Speaker 13 (34:17):
I want to start by thanking Harvey Weinstein organizing.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
An amazing day. He's a scumbag, so oh that's a
that's bad.
Speaker 13 (34:33):
This is possible because of Harvey.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
He is a wonderful human being.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
No, he's not good friend and just a powerhouse.
Speaker 13 (34:41):
In fact that he and his team took the time
to make this happen for all of you should say
something not about me or about this place, but about you.
All right, everybody, we are here because of you, Dude,
Whoopi Goldberg, Naomi Harris, Ryan Coogler, David Frankel, Blake Lively,
all of us are here because of you. And of course,
(35:03):
my dear friend Gail King is here.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We are here because of you.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
If you were any one of those names, you are
lamenting the fact that you were just lumped in with
Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Has Michelle Obama spoken with Uma Thurman? My chance? Just
one example? Wow, swing in a miss strike three?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Michelle Obama, Ladies and gentlemen, again, comparing to trans that
the veterans who served and those who we honor on
this day, quite the difference,
Sounds of guns artillery falling silent at the eleventh hour
of the eleventh day of the eleventh month in nineteen eighteen,
one hundred seven years ago, marking the end of the
First World War. Here in this Veterans Day edition of
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Ryan Shuling Live, paying tribute to those of you who
have served, to those of you who are family members
of those who have served. My grandfather, Byron Shuling, also
known as the vend serving in the United States Army
during World War II, stationed in Great Britain, and I've
joked about when he came back. He made so many
friends British, Canadian, American soldiers over there and had so
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many stories to tell. I was lucky enough to sit
on the front porch of his main cabin and the lodge.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
There three cabins that he had at.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Endecai Lake in Ontario, and he came upon those cabins
Evans from a Canadian war buddy of his, who tragically
passed very young in life, on the age that I
am right now, I believe a heart attack, and the
Canadian veterans widow did not want.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
To put up with the upkeep of these.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Cabins, so my grandfather bought them at the time for
five thousand dollars. It was quite a hefty sum back then.
We're talking like nineteen sixty right around then. And I
had the chance to share in those fishing expeditions with
him on that five mile lake. Had to sit on
the front porch of that main lodge and interview him
(02:34):
in part about his service in World War Two. Didn't
speak about it much, but when he did, he chose
to talk about the good times. And he was a
training base there in Great Britain. He was a little
bit older than the mean enlisted men who served. He
was born in nineteen fifteen, so when he served in
World War Two, he's right on the age of thirty.
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And he helped train those who would storm the beach
of Normandy in nineteen forty five. And he made great
friends along the way, great stories and then the sayings
that he picked up. I have to think there are
some kind of amalgam of Canadian, British and American folklore,
so they don't all make sense, but they sure were funny,
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and it was great to get to know my grandfather
who served in World War Two. There was also the
war in Vietnam. This one is a longer story when
it comes to my father, who was drafted but did
not serve. That was not a popular war. My grandfather
wanted him to serve because my grandfather had served. My
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grandmother wanted my dad to escape to the cabins in
Ontario and waited out. She was terrified that my dad
had been drafted for the war in Vietnam. They had
a going away party for him and everything, and he
was to be shipped off to Saigon or wherever else
(04:01):
from a bus stop in Indiana. It was late in
the night, and a bunch of the drafted enlisted men
and this was intriguing to me because my dad was
a college graduate and generally speaking, those types were not
subject to the draft, or they didn't get drafted as
much or as often. Late in the night, he went
(04:22):
through a physical examination, and he had been playing basketball
with some friends, one.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Of which you may know is.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Steve Garvey, the longtime legendary first baseman for the Los
Angeles Dodgers and later the San Diego Padres. In the
course of playing some pickup basketball, my dad had broken
his pinky finger on one of his hands, and he
was explaining this to the doctor conducting the physical before
(04:49):
he was to be set off for Vietnam, and he
explained that there had been a pen inserted in the finger,
and before he had a chance to explain any further,
he was sent back with a Vermont was the only
young man on that bus going back home to Michigan
from Indiana. The pen had been removed, but my dad
didn't get a chance to say that part. And you
(05:10):
talk about butterfly effect. Had he finished that sentence, very likely,
no matter what happened to him over there, I would
not be here today.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So I think about that a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Also think about those who did serve in Vietnam and
then unpopular war, and how they were treated mistreated by
those who awaited them upon their return and blamed them
for the unpopular war itself. And I think back to
a pivotal film that was made just over thirty years ago,
and a pivotal role that was played by Gary Sinise
(05:42):
as Lieutenant Dan in Forrest Gump, and this scene in particular,
we'll start.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
With, they gave you Congrational Medal of God.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Now that's Lieutenant Dion, Lieutenant Die.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
They gave you the Congressional.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Medal of Honor.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
He is so they surely did.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
They gave you an imbecile, a moron who goes on
television and makes a fool out of himself in front
of the whole damn country the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, sir, well that's just perfect.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Well, I just got one thing to say to that God,
bless America, ownA die.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Lieutenant Dan said he was living in a hotel and
because he didn't have no.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Legs, he spent most of his time exercising his arm.
Speaker 10 (07:00):
I don't care what was saying.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, what do you do ahead, New York, Lieutenant Dane.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I'm living off the government.
Speaker 11 (07:11):
Deevil?
Speaker 9 (07:14):
Hey, Hey you walking? Hey, get out.
Speaker 12 (07:28):
I stagged with Lieutenant Dane and celebrated holidays.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Right here to hurry home.
Speaker 13 (07:37):
Don't want you?
Speaker 12 (07:42):
And you found Jesus here, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I didn't know I was supposed to be looking for him.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So that's all these cripples down at the VA, that's
all they ever talked about.
Speaker 11 (08:04):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
This Jesus, that.
Speaker 12 (08:08):
If I found Jesus.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
They even had a priest and come and talk to me.
He said, God is listening, but I have to help
myself now.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
If I accept.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Jesus into my heart.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'll get to walk beside him in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Did you hear what I said, walk.
Speaker 12 (08:34):
Beside him in the Kingdom of Heaven?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, kiss my crippled ass.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
God is listening.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What a crooked I'm going to heaven? Lieutenant Dan?
Speaker 12 (08:50):
Oh, Well, before you go, why don't you get your
ass down in the corner and get us another bottle
of rip?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, sir, Lieutenant Dan.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
The character arc is fascinating to watch as you juxtapose
it with Forest, who has this innocence about him, and
it allows, I think, for Gary Sinise to really explore
the depths of this character's despair. When he comes home
from Vietnam, he's lost his legs. Forrest Gump saves him
from the forest, the jungle of Vietnam where he intended
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to die like his ancestors before him, and he cursed
Forest for saving his life, for stealing from him what
he thought was his destiny.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And then this, would you like to see what Lieutenant
Dan looks like?
Speaker 11 (09:42):
Well, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Would park bench cover of Fortune Magazine, Bubba Gump Shrimp.
Speaker 11 (09:52):
Company, And let me tell you something about Lieutenant Dan. Forest.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
I never thanked you for saving my life.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
They're on a boat and Lieutenant Dan is talking to
Forrest Gump.
Speaker 11 (10:32):
He never actually said so, but I think he made
his peace with God.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Of course, at the ending, Lieutenant Dan would get new
legs and a new wife and a new life, and
he came full circle. And unfortunately a lot of our
disabled American veterans do not. And it is a sad story,
and it was told in this film, and it moved
Gary Sony so much it changed the trajectory of his life.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
I remember walking into the hospitals the first time and
meeting service members who had been blown up, messing their legs,
just like Lieutenant Dan. They just wanted to talk about
the movie. I realized, Okay, no, that's the way that
I can communicate with their service members. They want to
talk about the positive story of Lieutenant Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
In the end, what happens to him.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
He's standing up again, he's moving on, he's sober, he's married,
and he's put his war years behind him. You know,
when Lieutenant Dan talks about his destiny, maybe there is
a little bit of destiny in the fact that I
would play that character and then that character would become
so much a part of the mission in my life
of supporting our wounded, and that's what we work every
single day to do at the Gary Sinese Foundation for
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the men and women who serve our country to try
to help them with their journey.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And as you may know from conversations we've had on
the right side of Hollywood, the Flora's very good friends,
very close with Gary Sinise Debra Flora each Friday on
this program during this hour and joining us now eighty
second Airborne veteran himself Ohio National Guard twelve years he served,
and he formed Lamplight Entertainment with his wife, Deborn, was
(12:06):
a producer with Walt Disney Studios for over twenty years,
and we're fortunate to have him on this Veteran's Day,
joining us on Ryan Schuling Live, Jonathan Flora our guest, Jonathan,
thanks for your time, Hey, Ryan, thank you so.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
Much for having me on. I really do appreciate it.
This is a very special day.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It is, and that was a very special film to
me because I think it really changed the conversation about
how we view veterans when they come back after they've
served our country put their lives on the line for us.
How important in your mind was that role of Lieutenant
Dan portrayed by Gary Sonise and in that big film
Forrest Gump from nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 11 (12:40):
Well, I think it was very important because medical assistants
in battlefield triage had banned so much. Now that our
guys and gals are surviving even more serious wounds than
they would have probably died and bled out on the battlefield.
So a lot of these guys are coming back with
major body parts missing, sometimes double triple even quadruple amputees.
(13:03):
And Gary, as he touched a little bit on the
promo that I heard you play, he had no idea
what he was stepping into. It was an element of
just have faith walk with him because people advancement in
CG people thought he was a double amputee because it
was done so well in the movie that he shows
up and he's walking in everything, and he just became
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so inspired by individuals of the disabled veterans of America
that he basically found his calling in life.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And Gary's foundation you can find out more about it
online Gary Sinise Foundation dot org. You spell his last
name SI n I S. Jonathan, What can you tell
us about Gary Sonise the man, the person that you've
interacted with, that you've worked with, and just what he
means to this community of veterans.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 11 (13:56):
We met at a film testil in Los Angeles where
deborn I had done a short film that won an award,
and part of the award was being able to meet
Gary backstage, and we just took up a great conversation
and then I found out how much he did with
the military. I was on the advisory board for the
Gied Film Festival. And what you realized with Gary immediately,
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and then, of course, time is always a revealer of deceit.
There's no deceit there. Gary's one of those guys that
had all the success of Hollywood and never became Hollywood.
He stayed that small town, local guy. And when he
realized what it meant to people for him to show
up and just give them a piece of home, just
give them encouragement, let him know that not everybody's turned
(14:41):
against them in the war like so much would be
on the news. He was embraced by the military and
the veterans and US veterans. OURBS meter is finally tuned.
They know who's there for a photo op, and they
know who's the real deal. And Gary truly is the
real deal. And when he goes on to form his band,
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the Lieutenant Dan Band, he couldn't have a better name
because people didn't know Gary Sonise, but they knew Lieutenant
Dan and he would get he would get that all
the time. And now he has more Bob Hope. I'm
more USO appearances than Bob Hope. He truly is the
Bob Hope at this generation. He'll never say that, but
when he brings a piece of home to people, and
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when I went to Iraq with him, he goes, anybody
can go to Bagdab, but I'm not going to knock
up and he goes, but let's go where nobody goes.
We went to Ford Operating Basis where there's like fifty
dusty Marines and nobody visits him there. And it was
like the world stopping for these guys.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Jonathan Flora, our guest, himself a National Guard veteran for
the eighty second Airborne and Ohio National Guard.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
There are so many organizations out there, and a lot
of them do a lot of good, like Gary Sonesse
and his foundation that we've discussed locally. I'll be talking
a little bit more after this bottom of the hour
break about a local group called American hero in Action.
My friend Dave Prophet runs that I donate to Tunnel
to Towers. I think that's a magnificent organization long time
standing disabled American veterans. There are other organizations out there.
(16:13):
Are there any that you would recommend for listeners right
now that really want to make a difference, that want
to contribute something to our veterans who have given so
much to us.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
Well, to your point, there are so many that are
out there, and all of them have a little bit
of distinction. They kind of focus in a different area.
And I'm obviously a big fan of the Gary Sinisee Foundation,
having known him for so long, and he was the
first to come out building the smart homes with these
double and triple and quadruple amputees and Debor and I
(16:44):
were so honored that he actually used our documentary The
Tenant Dan Band for the Common Good to launch his foundation.
But the main thing out there is sign something that
you're comfortable with, check and make sure that they're legitimate.
You know, there's been a couple of issues in some
where money was going to the end user, and that
happens across the board, unfortunately, but find something that really
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speaks to their heart, that's either in an area or
focuses on a demographic that really moves you emotionally, and
then jump in because there's no greater good than serving
somebody in need, especially when that person has put on
the uniform and may have gotten hurt defending our freedoms
and our liberties.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And again, on the Veteran's Day, if you want to
find out more about the Gary Sinese Foundation, easy to
find online Garysine Foundation dot org. Jonathan, the final minute
or so that we have left just a final word
from you on this Veterans Day.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And what people need to know about what this day means.
Speaker 11 (17:41):
Well, it's interesting because so many people will confuse Memorial
Day with Veterans Day. They'll thank veterans, and we certainly
always appreciate that, but Memorial Day is for those that
gave the ultimate sacrifice. Veterans Day is for those that
have served, those that are currently serving or maybe even
interested in getting into the military. And so when you
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do say thank you for your service, it means something
and obviously the benefit for us and then we say okay,
live a life worth defending. Go out there and do
some good. Like you talked earlier, let's grab an arr
and do something and we can help make our country better.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Lieutenant Dan Bann part of the Gary Sonise Foundation and
what they do, such great work and truly one of
the more remarkable individuals in Hollywood, and a feel good
story Gary Sonise and how much he has given back
to our veterans. Jonathan Flora helping him do that in
that cause and a veteran in his own right. So
thankful for your time today, your perspective and the stories.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Jonathan. Thank you for your service to our country and
thanks for joining us here today.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
Thanks Ran, It's really appreciative and it's an honorative Warnedy
uniform and support those that still are. Thank you for
your time and thanks for bringing attention to it.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Jonathan Flora there and Deborah Flora, he would say, his
better half joining us each and every Friday here on
the right side of Hollywood, and often she will share
stories about Gary Sinise and him being part of Friends
of Aid, but more importantly on this day, the foundation
that he started, and hopefully one day I'll have a
chance to have that conversation with him as well. Garysinise
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Speaker 4 (21:11):
Fiding Souldiers from the sky, fearless men who jump and die,
men who mean just what they say. The brave men.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Of the Green bewraid.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
Silver wings.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Up on their chest.
Speaker 11 (21:39):
These are men.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
America's vest.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
One hundred men will test today, but only three when
the Green bew raids.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I Yes, a salute trained to all of our veterans
surveys and who have served on this Veterans Day twenty
twenty five. Our thanks to Jesse Thomas for finding that
great music to come back with, and our thanks to
Jonathan floora part of the eighty second Airborne and the
Ohio National Guard, twelve year veteran himself joining us with
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his vantage point on Hollywood and one of the bright spots,
Gary Sinise, and again the Gary Sinise Foundation, if you'd
like to give, I really want to use this platform
as an opportunity for all of us to find out
more about the great work that Gary is doing Gary
Sinise Foundation dot org. It's ni Se Garysinesse Foundation dot org.
(22:37):
As I mentioned, I donate monthly to Tunnel for Towers.
You also have the organization I've talked about, American Heroes
and Action. Dave Prophet, currently on a hunt, will join
me tomorrow. I'll give you a little more details on
that in just a minute or so. Tunnel to Towers
is another one. Disabled American Veterans is another group. All
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of these do great work on behalf of veterans, especially
those who have served to come back and then what
I think they should be at the front of the
line when it comes to those of us who are
taxpayers who provide services. This is where It really gets
my dander up about how we don't take care of
our veterans the way that we should.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The way that they deserve.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's the least that we can do for everything they've
done for us, and I feel very strongly about this issue.
I had a conversation earlier on a lighter note with
LeeAnne Morgan, and I found that to be so inspiring
and enlightening and fun that you'll hear the full convo
coming up at the top of the hour. But in
(23:42):
real time, this is what happened. I'm in the neighboring
studio for Freedom ninety three seven over there, and she
dials in and I answer the phone, and we're not
even doing the interview yet, So keep this in mind.
This is all off the air pre interview conversation, and
she could not be sweeter.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Heart Denver, this is.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Ryan, Ryan, my darling. It's lateen.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh am, I glad to hear your voice. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 10 (24:10):
Honeys it is it snowing? What did they went out there?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know, we were just talking about this on my
show yesterday that this is one of the latest times
on the calendar that we have not yet had snow.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
Oh, what are all those ski resorts?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, see up there, they do, they get it and
they make it so the weather at that altitude is
a little bit better for that. And then we lived
down on the planes they call it here, so we
just haven't.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Had it down here.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Oh y'all haven't when, And y'all are usually when. The
last time I was on tour there and at the Paramount,
the Kansas City Chiefs got beat by.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Or Denver got beat by the Kansas City Cheese.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
Yes, and little Patrick Mahomes was playing with the flu
and they'd given him a bag of fluids. And I
remember everybody being torn up over the land because we
love our Denver, and say I got Nate finally Peyton
meaning yes, because I'm a Tennessee girl. And then he
played for yol and he was darling. I could talk football,
(25:15):
not stance. I don't know that, but I like to
talk about people's personal business, football player's personal business.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
In that order.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Okay, Yeah, Like you know little Pengrimhome's family, you know,
crazy bless his hark. And then there he's leaning on
one foot trying to throw a football. Might get through anyway.
I didn't mean to get off on that team. Gent
I just remember that mall that game being played while
I was out there, and it was a huge snow.
(25:44):
It was a huge snow, and people still came out
to my show, God love them.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I think I might have been at that game now
that you mentioned it was really cold that night, I
remember it. So Will are going to get you rocking
and rolling here with the intro. And what I did
was because I just noticed on the intro to your
Netflix special that you have your daughter introducing you, so
it's perfect for our purposes on radio. So yeah, I'm
going to have that with her voice, and then it
(26:09):
leads into the typical trailer that you have.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So we'll get rolling here and then I'll bring you
right in.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
All right, you doll, Thank you, Thank you, LeAnn Honan,
Leanne Morgan much more coming up top of the hour.
Her Netflix special Unspeakable Things, dropping exactly one week ago
today and available to you on Netflix along with her
sitcom Leanne, which was just re upped for a second season.
And she's wrapping up her stand up to her and
she's promising me, as you heard right there, that she'll
(26:36):
be coming back to Denver sometime soon in calendar year
twenty twenty six five seven seven three nine. You can
send your texts along you have a message for a
veteran or a thought you'd like to express for somebody
who has served. If you have served, I want to
hear from you as well. At five seven seven three nine.
There's a puncher's chance that my good buddy Hutch, a
Marine Corps veteran in his own right, having served over
(26:58):
in Kosovo, will us about an hour from right now
if he gets out of work on time. So that's
the caveat there. Also, my friend Dave Prophet, he'll be
joining me tomorrow, a very instrumental local group that helps
our veterans American heroes in action. What they do is
they provide adventures for our service members, both those who
(27:21):
served in the military and in law enforcement, and many
of whom struggle with mental health issues, and this provides
them with an unforgettable experience to go out and hunt
or fish or just enjoy nature. Currently, as I message Dave,
he was out on a hunt and I said, hey,
you want to come on and talk about Veterans Day
(27:41):
in your group today, and he said, I would like
to do that. I'm out with a group of veterans
right now and a big game hunt in the mountains
of southwest Colorado. I don't know that I will have
a dependable signal for a phone call or interview, so
we're going to reschedule that conversation for tomorrow. And just
to tell you a little bit about his group that
he founded, American Heroes in Action, and you can find
(28:02):
out more on their website by that very handle, American
Heroes Inaction dot org. And he recaps their summer, saying
that so far in twenty twenty five, they've already had
almost as many adventures as they had in all of
twenty twenty four. And that was just the beginning of
this fourth quarter of the year. In twenty twenty four,
(28:23):
American Heroes in Action had fifty four adventures on the calendar.
On October third, when three veterans go off to Aidak Island, Alaska,
this is looking back now on a caribou hunt, that
would be number forty eight for the year. They go
quail hunting, pheasant hunting, duck hunting, a lot of game birds.
There's a delicious by the way, I'm just saying that
(28:44):
as somebody who enjoys that The only way he says
here that they can hold that many adventures and serve
so many veterans and first responders is from donations from
people like you.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So I want to mention that website one more time.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We'll talk more in detail with about that coming up
tomorrow on this Veteran's Day.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Keep them in mind. American Heroes Inaction dot org.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, take this time out, and I would like you
to compare and contrast what we've heard, what we've talked about,
Gary Sinise, Jonathan Flora, Dave Prophet, American Heroes in Action,
Gary Sinese Foundation, Tunnel to Towers, those who have served us,
put their lives on the line for our country. Compare
and contrast that with the gall the audacity, not of hope,
(29:31):
not that Barack Obama, but his wife, the First Lady,
the distinguished Michelle Obama. And just listen to how tone
deaf her complaints, not just first world problems, first lady problems,
and see if that's relatable to the common American, those
of us who live and breathe and work each day
(29:52):
and try to pay our bills at the end of
the month. Listen to what she complains about and think
if you can relate to that at all, And my
answer would be no, We'll see what you think when
we come back wrapping an hour one of Ryan shuling
live after this, I.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Didn't really have that choices.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Firstly, every day, every time I was up as we
called it, you know, I was up for the public. Yes,
and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to
save time. Yes, you know, I know, having a glam team,
a trifecta, it feels like a luxury, but it was
a time and time this necessity. There's absolutely no way
(30:42):
that I would be able to do my hair and
make up and have clothes ready that fit, you know,
because where is the woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yes, God forbid? Q Vice President Vance. Do you hear yourself? Michelle?
Speaker 11 (31:02):
Do you care?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Do you know what this sounds like?
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Step outside your narcissistic self for one minute and listen
to yourself and how this appears to the average American
struggling to get by.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Who you claim to represent. You are the bourgeoisie, and
you're complaining about it.
Speaker 14 (31:28):
You said, we were all too aware that as a
first black couple, we couldn't afford any missteps. Yeah, and
you also say as a black woman, I was under
a particularly white hot Claire, did you feel that for.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Sure, you can't afford to get anything wrong because you
didn't get the at least until the country came to
know us. We didn't get the grace that I think
some other families have gotten.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Find one critical media piece about Michelle Obama, aside from
far right type kind of fringe publications, mainstream media that
said anything remotely critical or negative about Michelle Obama. She
graced the cover of every magazine. I might add, Milania Trump,
who is gorgeous and a model, has not been on
(32:19):
those same magazines. You were under stress and pressure hardly.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Also, I understood the symbolism of me wearing braids as
the former first Lady. I wasn't sure whether the country
was ready for it. It cares the Crown Act hadn't
been passed yet. There was a lot that we were
trying to do, and just like fashion, I didn't want
my hair to become a distraction.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
This is what you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
But I understood the significance of wearing braids to our
portrait unveiling. I wanted to send a message as well
to young women and to all of us as women,
that we should be the ones determining what is appropriate
for our hair, not our boss, not our workplace, not
some standard that doesn't even reflect us. Let us be
(33:13):
the ones who make the decisions about how we want
our hair and if I want to wear it straight,
if I want bangs, if I want breaths.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I know you were the first lady, all due respect,
so tall, vegannite style. That means I can say whatever
I want here. You don't matter that much. People really
didn't care. Maybe some did, but most did not, at
least aside from all of that self absorbed obsession.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
She's modest, right, So.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
I wanted to take advantage of the fact that as
the first lady, Yes you can be smart and educated
and beautiful and sexy and interesting and all those things.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
And yes you can be a black.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Woman, a tall five to eleven black woman.
Speaker 13 (33:57):
Did you see the shoulders?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You miss that?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Because Brannia trump Ever referred to herself as sexy? Is
that even acceptable parlance for anybody to refer to yourself?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Hey, I made it okay to be sexy. Well, at
least she's a good person.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It wouldn't like endorse personally some nefarious scumbag.
Speaker 13 (34:17):
I want to start by thanking Harvey Weinstein organizing.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
An amazing day. He's a scumbag, so oh that's a
that's bad.
Speaker 13 (34:33):
This is possible because of Harvey.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
He is a wonderful human being.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
No, he's not good friend and just a powerhouse.
Speaker 13 (34:41):
In fact that he and his team took the time
to make this happen for all of you should say
something not about me or about this place, but about you.
All right, everybody, we are here because of you, Dude,
Whoopi Goldberg, Naomi Harris, Ryan Coogler, David Frankel, Blake Lively,
all of us are here because of you. And of course,
(35:03):
my dear friend Gail King is here.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We are here because of you.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
If you were any one of those names, you are
lamenting the fact that you were just lumped in with
Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Has Michelle Obama spoken with Uma Thurman? My chance? Just
one example? Wow, swing in a miss strike three?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Michelle Obama, Ladies and gentlemen, again, comparing to trans that
the veterans who served and those who we honor on
this day, quite the difference,
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