August 19, 2024 • 35 mins
Ryan compares the meandering answer from Vice President Kamala Harris on how she's going to pay for her econonmic policies - to his old college drinking game during the song 'Roxanne' by The Police. Between her use of 'in terms of' and 'return on investment,' participants would be intoxicated within a minute's response.
Josh Sims joins Ryan to discuss his partnership with XX-XY Athletics and his upcoming induction into the PLL Hall of Fame.
Remembering a classic exchange between pioneering TV talk show host Phil Donahue (1935-2024) and iconic American economist Milton Friedman, the day after Donahue's death.
Josh Sims joins Ryan to discuss his partnership with XX-XY Athletics and his upcoming induction into the PLL Hall of Fame.
Remembering a classic exchange between pioneering TV talk show host Phil Donahue (1935-2024) and iconic American economist Milton Friedman, the day after Donahue's death.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A stormy weather out there, and stormy skies figuratively.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know, for all these Democrats, the champion the cause
against walls, or against funding the police, or against having
a police presence, so they sure do sign up for
those things when their asses are on the line, when
it's they who are in harm's way. You know, I
just think about somebody like Sheriff Steve or Eames in
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Welld County and how he must just be chuckling at
all of this.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
He might even text me about that.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Or John Fabricatory, who I had in for a full
hour last week. If you missed that, go back and
find it on the podcast. Real interesting, knowledgeable guy would
make a tremendous congressman running in the sixth against the
incumbent Democrat Jason Crowe. Kelly and I both live in
the sixth district. Kelly put up not one, but two
John Fabricatory signs in your yard, quickly explained Kelly, I
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did it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Put one in the front yard and then I put
one in the backyard. Why both because the backyard Actually
we live on a golf course, so all the people
who are golfing can see the second on side.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I would even argue that that sign is probably more
effective than the one in the front lawne.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You think, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
More traffic, yeah, good, good job.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, But I think about what John must be thinking,
what Sheriff Reams must be thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Here are the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
This really grinds my gears to clean up my language
a little bit. That the Democrats will rail against all
of these institutions. They will call us systematically racists that
are very founding was on racist principles of slavery by
white supremacist slave owners, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And they will not acknowledge, they will not.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Concede that the idea of America endures. That the idea
of America is as close to perfect as has ever
been created by any humans on this planet in terms
of a society that is fair, that is just, that
rewards individual liberty and entrepreneurial spirit. Think of all the
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great American inventors, and why did that happen here? Why
have these almost two hundred and fifty years been an
American renaissance. It's because of that freedom, that freedom to create,
the freedom of spirit, that freedom to explore, that freedom
to invent and all of those freedoms I just stated,
Kamala Harris stands directly against with almost every public comment
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she's made. And I've got several examples, folks, I already
have five, count them, five deep thoughts by Vice President
Kamala Harris. Ready to go for the whole week, Ready
to go for the whole week, just based on stuff
we've been able to dig up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The Dan has sent me that I found myself online.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Counterintuitive to that American spirit of creativity, innovation, ingenuity, invention
is Kamala Haas that would crash the government down upon
all that would produce or create in this country.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
The price controls were just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Everyone those things that she hinted at and Friday, which
will be a disaster if they are enacted. Now, the
cynical person in me, this is the good cynical, believes
that she's not gonna be able to enact a lot
of that. But she has said if they don't do
it on a hundred days, she said this on a
lot of topics. By the way, if Congress doesn't give
me what I want in a hundred days by executive
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order and fiat, I'm gonna make it happen anyway. I'm
going to circumvent the entire process. I'm going to enact
these price controls on people. I'm gonna snatch, her words,
patents away from drug companies that are doing research and
development to create drugs that will save human lives just
because they are in part funded subsidized by the American government.
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But she's making it sound like it's a deal you
make with the mafia that if you don't do as
they say the government, then well we're just gonna steal
your patents. Yes, she said that. No, that's not an exaggeration,
that's not hyperbole.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Come on, she is a walking disaster. She is an
enemy of capitalism. And we'll get to some of that
because there's a famous exchange I want to get to
in this segment between the now departed Phil Donahue he
died at the age of eighty eight today and Milton Friedman,
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who has long since been gone. He lived a very
long life though Milton Friedman an economists and a genius
in many ways, a capitalist of the highest order, and
a very important figure in the twentieth century for the
American economy. But where do I begin. Where do I begin?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Today?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I know it's cracking Kelly up, but there's so many
directions that we can go to.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
How about how about the beta males.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The beta male bros, the Beta bros, Doug m Hoff,
Tim Walls?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What is this? And again we really bonded.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You saw me get up on that stage and we
just hugged it out.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
A few of my friends texted me, it's like, what's
the deal.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like, I've known you for twenty or thirty years, You've
never hugged me like that. Well, you've never been a
vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Before on stage.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, I mean this follows the whole Derriedo set up
at the sheets. I believe it was between Kamala Harris
and Tim Walls, and she asked for some corn nuts.
So Tim Walls gets her some Dorito's obviously, because that's
what she didn't ask for. Anyway, it was it was
a staged event. It was campy and its nature. There's
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a text thread or a tweet thread or a ex
post thread that I want to go through. The gas
lighting is off the charts. Not that that should be
a surprise to anybody. It's not a surprise to me.
But when it comes from an iconic American magazine that
has lost a lot of credibility, by the way, and
it's always and hard left.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Rolling Stone magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
They originated kind of doing the Bush Hitler comparisons, and
it's the whole cry wolf thing, right, if George W.
Bush was Hitler. But now you're trying to convince me that,
well Trump was Hitler. But you got to pick one and.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Go with it. Okay, somebody's Hitler. There's one Hitler.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know, Hitler is the goat of all bad guys
of villainry in the modern history of the world. It's Hitler, right,
He's like the worst. So when you're gonna go to
that extreme, I mean, that's a big jump. That's a
big jump. You can't then go saying that George W.
Bush is Hitler old, But then, by the way, Donald
Trump is Hitler. It's like, well, how many Hitlers are there?
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And do they really measure up from an evil standpoint? No,
they probably don't. So I want to get into that
as well. Obviously, today mark's the start of the Democratic
National Convention, and that's where I started with a law
enforcement You see the heavy police presence, the Chicago PD,
God love them, and they're putting their lives on the
line to try to keep law and order on the streets.
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The Democrats would support that, unless, of course, it's their
hides that are being saved by this. They've built fencing
and walls around the DNC.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Why would they do that.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Walls don't work till you've been told by them by
the Well, no, they do work. Apparently because the Democrats
are scared of their own constituents.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Businesses in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Have preemptively boarded up their windows and doors. How much
of this happened in Milwaukee a month ago for the
Republican National Convention, Well, none of it, none of the
extra police presence. There was no violence, no protesters, no
businesses needed to board up their windows and doors, No
walls were built around the arena where Milwaukee was. Rob
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Dawson coming up in hour number two the bottom of
that hour is going to report live from the streets
of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm kind of worried sick about him.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
He's in the midst of all these protesters and pro
hamas whack jobs that are coming in for the convention.
They're estimating about one hundred thousand who knows what that
number is going to be like or how that's going
to turn out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
But the first thing I want to do, since it's
still two thirteen and the Mountain Heres are going live,
I think we need to play the Kamala drinking game.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I say this with some level of hesitation only because
there are rumors now coming out of the weekend. And
believe me, as a son of a father who is
a recovering alcoholic, it'll be twenty years sober from my
dad in September, and I'm very proud of him. I'm
very happy that he was able to find a sobriety
because without it, quite frankly, he probably would have died
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about twenty years ago. But I still have him and
I cherish that. But that there might be an issue
here now I wanted to dig into this further. So
coming up Thursday, Charlie Spearing, who is the author of
Amateur Hour Kamala Harrison the White House. You may have
seen him on Jesse Waters, going to join me on
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Thursday to start the show, so you'll have that to
look forward to. But that there may be an issue,
a problem with Vice President Harris and alcohol, drinking to excess,
drinking too often, drinking it inappropriate times. Now, this would
follow logically that there would be a concern her talking
in circles and word salads, and we make fun of that,
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but it would explain a lot of the cause of that.
The root cause that she didn't get to for immigration,
but that we're maybe going to get to here would
be that perhaps she's a day drinker and this is
not good. It would also explain the turmoil and the
tumult within her own camp that what ninety two percent
of her staffers have quit. You know, alcohol tends to
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amplify emotions, both good and bad, and she's kind of
in a bad mood one day and she has a little.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Bit too much to drink.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know, they're trying to compare her to like the
drunk wine ant that says clever, funny things at family gatherings.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know if that's going to fly.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And especially these rumors turn out to be true, and
I want to call them what they are before there's
any verifiable proof. This is pure conjecture, but I've seen
a lot of it ruminating online, and again, it would.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Explain a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So with that preface and caveat there's something about her
response here. I'm going to play it at first so
that you can kind of take it in. I want
to take this in parts where Kamala Harris is asked
about her economic policy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
She just gets off the bus and.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
She's able to answer one question here, and I'm trying
to see if I have just that version or not.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I believe I do. Now let's just go with this
since I can't find it and I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So she gets off the bus and she gives about
a one minute answer here. But there are two terms
that I want you to hone in on, and I'm
going to reveal them to you right now. And what
this reminds me of in college as a gen xer,
what a certain song would come on at the bar
usually on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Half of the bar would.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Drink when Sting sad saying rather rock Sanne, and then
the other half of the bar would drink when the
rest of the band saying you don't have to turn
on the red light. And then there would be a
volley to go back and forth. And if you know
the song, well, you're wasted by the end of the song.
Similarly in this response from Kamala Harris, I want all
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the ladies out there to drink when you hear rock
Sanne and in terms of okay, that's the phrase, that's
the catchphrase when you hear in terms of take a
twig or whatever you're drinking, if it's alcohol, God love
you this time of day. And for the gentleman out there,
I want you to drink on you don't have to
turn on the red light. And return on investment. Okay,
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those are the cues. And here we go to the
sound of the police and rock sand right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Lie right.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You unveiled your exist economic policies last week.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Can you explain how you're going to pay for those
and can you give us a sense of what other
policies you want to unveil going forward?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Well, I mean you just look at it in terms
of what we are talking about, for example, around CHU
and the child Tax Credit and extending the EC that
it's at six thousand dollars for the first year of
elect a child's life. The return on that investment, in
terms of what that will do and what it will
pay for it will be tremendous. We've seen it when
we did it the first year of our administration reduces
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We reduced top obviously by over fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So that's a lot of the work.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
And then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits.
We know that there's a great return on investment. And
when we increase home ownership in America, what that means
in terms of increasing the tax base, not to mention
your property tax base, what that does to find schools? Again,
return on investment. I think it's a mistake for any
person who talks about public policy did not critically evaluate
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how you measure the return of em when you are
strengthening neighborhood, strengthening communities and in particular the economy of
those communities, and investing in a broad based economy, everybody
benefits and it pays for itself.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
All right, if you're loaded, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Going back to the scoreboard now, in that exchange, Kamala
Harris used quote in terms of unquote exactly four times
in a one minute response. She also used return on
investment that phrase exactly four times.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So these crutch phrases.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And you'll notice a pattern here because I have, as
I've gone back and tried to edit through a lot
of her circular talking points, what she leans on, and
specifically in live question formats, which she has not had.
Now the countdown is at count up, I should say,
twenty nine days she's been the presumptive candidate. Joe Biden
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has dropped out of the race. She has not held
a single press conference or conducted a single interview sit
down with a member of the media. But when she does,
she goes to in terms of as what I call filler.
When you give a response you don't know what to
say next. You do the Michael Scott on the Office
where he just starts talking and then tries to fill
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in the details as he goes. Not usually a great result,
but this is the type of response that we're dealing
with from her, and it's something that even David Brooks,
he's ostensibly a conservative, I guess it's as conservative as
you get for the New York Times, but he is
no Trump fan at all, and he was breaking down
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the Kamala Harris policy that she just tried to fill
in the details about.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean, she has some good policies in this package.
I think the Child's Act credit, it's a good thing.
She wants to deregulate housing so we can get more homes,
but the price gouting is just well. Kevin Rampell, the
Washington Post columnist a News Hour contributor, said it's impossible
to exaggerate how bad this policy is, and I agree
with that. Oh and Catherine had a good line that
if your opponent is calling you a communist, maybe don't
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lead with price controls. And so price controls just create
shortages that create black markets. We've seen it happen in Venezuela.
We've seen it happen in the Soviet Union. Price controls
just don't work.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And if you noticed in Kamala's response to the reporter
off the bus when she was asked about how are
you going to pay for all this, she tried to
frame it on the child tax credit pard not the
grocery punishment part, with the return on the investment of
the child tax credits, and then people are able to
make us maybe spend their own money. There's some kind
of logic there. I guess that I'm not following entirely
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because she avoided the grocery portion of that. Brooks goes
on here to say price gouging, what price gouging.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
What's worse about that?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
First, it's trying to address a problem that does not exist.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Price grocery prices.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Inflation has been less than one percent for the past year.
It's over. We had a surge, but it's over. The
problem does not exist. But the real core problem is
it expresses a level of economic illteracy, which is kind
of surprising and a responsible Democratic candidate.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It would be surprising in a responsible Democratic candidate. If
Kamala Harris were a responsible Democratic candidate.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
She is not.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And it's not kind of surprising that she is, inherit
his terms, economically illiterate because she is that This is
a paper tiger.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
This is a total construck.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Kamala Harris herself invented by a Democratic party that needed
a cult of personality to build around a person who
has no substance whatsoever. You can't go waiting very deep
in the Kamala Harris pool before you get to the
rock bottom, and you definitely can't get waste deep in
any kind of intellectual issue that she would be a
strong voice for. This is Brooks and the final portion
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of his comments just totally undermining her contention and Joe
Biden's that there's greed flation.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
The idea behind greedflation is that we had all these
years of low inflation under Obama and under Bush's and
I guess people weren't greedy then, and then Biden gets
in and suddenly, magically they all get greedy and stype
price scougen, and they do it at Kroger's, at Harris Teeter,
at H ANDP. Suddenly there's this mass of price scougen
and she thinks she can prosecute it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's not why inflation surged.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Inflation surge because we had a pandemic which screwed up
supply chains and productivity. Then the Biden administration overstimulated the
economy too many dollars chasing too few goods. I'm an
administration official. Larry Summer and Jason Furman said at the time,
this is going to cause inflation.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Lo and behold it did.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
The Fed has to clamp down on growth, raising everybody's
interest payments. That's what caused inflation. That's solid basic economics.
Her great inflation plan is somewhere off outside of normal economics.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Wow, I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And that's David Brooks once again for The New York Times,
and that was on PBS, so there isn't a lot
of lavish praise coming Kamala Harris's way even as we
launch into the Democratic National Convention today and again Rob
Dawson will be reporting live at the bottom of the
three o'clock hour, so around three thirty three live from
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Chicago from the site of the Democratic National Convention, and
the very latest on the protests going on outside the convention.
Lots more to get to your texts as well. Five seven, seven,
three nine, Please start those, Ryan, and we'll look forward
to that and more after this on six point thirty
k House. It's not every day I get to talk
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to a Hall of Famer, but that's the case right now.
Our next guest is an inductee of the Premier Lacrosse
League Hall of Fame and ambidextrous midfielder, three time All
American and national champion. The list of awards and accolades
goes on and just recently signing on to help promote
xx x y Athletics. Now you know about that because
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Jennifer Say has appeared on this program many times and
it's her ingenuity and her entrepreneurial spirit that has.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Launched xxxy Athletics.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You can find out more about that at xx dash
xy athletics dot com. Josh Sim's our guest with me
Ryan Schuling here on six point thirty k I, Josh,
first of all, congratulations on your induction to the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thanks for having me absolutely and I want to talk
to you more about your connection to xx xy Athletics
and really what started that, What was that genesis of
the relationship between you and Jennifer.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I actually mentioned through a mutual friend, somebody that actually
I played with in college who I've stayed friends with
in the Denver area since moving out here in the
early two thousands, And you know, I hit it off
with jen knew what they were trying to do. And
I've been in the industry for quite a long time,
thought I was getting out, but I was too intrigued
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by the opportunity and the concept and really wanted to
just dive in. And that's that's how we met, and
that's what's happening now.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You said you've been in the industry for a long time,
Do you mean like sportswear and athletic wear like that
or just the sporting world in general.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Both really.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I mean I got out of college thinking I was
going off to you know, use this created economics degree
I got, and the Major League Lacrosse Professional League started
this summer that I graduated, So here I was kind
of presenting with this opportunity to stay in the game
and play. But it was also you know, a weekend
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warrior version of Pro pro sports, and we all have
held down jobs, so I got to work in the
industry with Warrior Sports and New Balance property than under Armour,
and then last with the North Face and even with
the PLL in the inaugural year, was the head of
lacrosse for the league, so definitely stayed involved on both
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sides and in all.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Aspects, joining us now he is in the Premiere Lacrosse
League Hall of Fame Josh Simms and affiliated with xx
x Y Athletics. About this, you mentioned having worked with
the North Face and the past very successful brand in
and of itself, but about the mission kind of the
mission statement, I guess, of what Jen's trying to accomplish
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with xx x.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Y Athletics, why was that part of it important to you?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Josh, Well, I'm a girl dad for starters, so I've
got four daughters, and what I've seen happening in women's
sports and this spread of biological males competing in women's
sports was concerning to me on a personal level. But
I also was concerned just the level of awareness that
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people had for the issue and the lack of real concern.
So knowing that we were starting a brand that was
mission focused and standing up for women's sports and spaces
was important to me. It wasn't something that wasn't the
place that necessarily see myself going, but you know, when
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the starts align, that's just how it goes.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I guess so great to hear from somebody like Josh
with his influence in the world of sports and specifically lacrosse.
Sticking up, like you said, for girl sports and space
is so important.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And I've spoken with a friend of Jen's.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I don't know if you know where personally yet, but
Kim Russell is a lacrosse coach formerly at Oberlin College.
There was a big controversy there with her regarding the
issue of transgender athletes, and then that has led her
to Green Pastors and her coaching endeavors. But part of
the conversations I've had with her, Kim Russell, Josh, is
the difference obviously physiologically between girls and boys, men and women,
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And I'd like you to speak to specifically in lacrosse
what those dangers could be. Let's say, if a biological male,
regardless of what level it was at, were to participate
in girls lacrosse, what could you see going wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Sure? I mean I know Tim and I've met Kim,
and her story is incredible. For anyone that hasn't heard
it definitely worth checking out. In terms of men competing
against in women's sports, I mean, if you look at
the game of lacrosse, it hasn't been an area where
I think this has presented been an issue yet. Fortunately, however,
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I mean it was for Kim in a different way,
and I think part of that is because the games
are played very differently. I mean, the women's game involves
much less protect They were eye protection and a mouth guard.
Men's lacrosse it's helmet, gloves, The contact is much higher.
It's a very different version of the game. I mean, fundamentally,
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they're very similar, and I think that there could be
and should be better versions of co ed game gameplay.
But you know, it's just the way that the game
has evolved. It's very different. So I just can't imagine it.
I don't think it. I certainly don't think it would.
It would go very well if it were to become,
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certainly become something that was prevalent.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Josh Sims our guest again.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
He is a member of the Premiere Lacrosse League Hall
of Fame and now affiliated directly with xx x Y Athletics.
We're a big supporter of Jennifer Say and those products
on this show, and you can find out more online
xx x Y athletics dot com. Now, Josh, just asking
to provide your opinion here. But having competed at the
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highest level and the sport that you participated, I am
anticipating that you watched the Olympic Games and there was
controversy along these lines in women's Olympic boxing with Amni
Khalif of Algeria and lin U Ting of Taiwan. They
had failed gender eligibility tests in the past. There is
some gray area here though, as to whether they are
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technically biological males or females, or hermaphrodic or xx Y
chromosomal my stance on this you encounter it, however, you like,
is that if there is a presence of a Y
chromosome at all, that in and of itself should be
the disqualifying factor for an individual participating in girls or
women's sports.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I would agree with you there. I think the easiest
way to solve this issue is to say that you
have to be XX and unfortunately it may prevent a
small portion of people that are in the DSD category
who cannot compete, But that would be the only fair
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way to address the issue. And I know there's a
lot of speculation, particularly with what happened in the Olympics,
and there's a lot of politicizing I think of the issue,
and when you break it down into simple terms, it's
really the only way to keep women safe and keep
the sport fair. So I would agree with you there.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Final question, Josh. We appreciate your time and all that
you're doing to protect girls sports and spaces, but where
you see this going the future for girls and women's athletics.
We know that there was an encroachment on Title nine
that the Supreme Court, by a five to four margin
just struck down, and that was a victory at least
in the short term.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We saw that celebrated. But where you hope to take.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
All of this with xxxy Athletics, with the message that
you're trying to bring to the American people.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I think we want to restore some sanity.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I think right.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Now this idea that biological sex doesn't matter is an
inflection point. It's somewhat insane to us and to many people.
I think most people are definitely on our side with regards.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
To this issue.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
And we want to raise awareness. We want to bring
great products to market, provide products, performance products that athletes
will love and you know, enjoy the performance of. And
I think change culture. We want to change culture and
make people appreciate sports and for what they are and
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and not you know, not adopt this ideology that could
ultimately destroy women's sports.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Such a great point and such a great cause.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And you can find out more about this brand at
xx dash x Y athletics dot com. He's a premier
Lacrosse League Hall of Famer Josh Simms joining us today. Josh,
so thankful for your time and all that you're doing.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Best of luck going forward, much appreciation and thanks for
your support.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
All right, Josh s they're your reaction.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Of course, this is a topic near and dear to
my heart, with two nieces, two sisters, growing up, having
participated in sports myself, and having worked in athletics and
in sports broadcasting, and knowing really what is truth from fiction,
and there just is no gray area when it comes
to my observations on the topic, my participation in sports
along those lines, and my coverage of sports, which has
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included women's sports, and that's very important to me.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And that's why you see people from all.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Across the ideological spectrum, from Martina Navra Tolova to Riley
Gains and all these others in between that are fighting
the good fight on behalf of girls and women's sports
and spaces. And Josh Simms, God love him as a
girl dad, like he said, getting involved, putting his name
to it, Hall of Fame lacrosse player, and he's willing
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to search out that fairness for girls participating in athletics.
Xxxyathletics dot com is where you can find out more.
We'll take this time out, come back wrap up hour
number one after this Ryan schuling on six thirty K.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
How I think you've ever had a moment of doubt
about capitalism and whether greed's a good idea to run on.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Well, first of all, tell me, is there some society
you know that doesn't run on greed? You think Russia
doesn't run on greed, You think China doesn't run on greed?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
What is greed?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Of course, none of us are greeting.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's only the other fellow who's greeding.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
The world runs on individuals pursuing their separateadors. The great
achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein
didn't construct his theory under order from a bureaucraft. Henry
Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way. In the
only cases in which the masses have escaped from the
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kind of grinding poverty you're talking about, the only cases
in recorded history or where they have had capitalism and
largely free trade. If you want to know where the
masses are worse off worst off, it's exactly from the
kinds of societies that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Depart from that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Legendary economist Milton Friedman with late Phil Donahue.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Just passed away last night at the age of eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
A pioneer in the field of the talk format on television.
Donahue was the first of its kind, soon to be
followed by Oprah Winfrey, Sally Jesse, Raphael, several other imitators,
but Donahue was the original, and he dated back to
the nineteen seventies. And that was part of a fascinating
interview that Phil did with Milton Friedman. And what I
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like about Phil Donahue, although I disagreed with him tremendously
fundamentally philosophically, politically, was that he allowed his guests and
showed the respect to Milton Friedman to allow him to speak,
to listen, to allow him to be heard. Even when
Milton Friedman was basically putting Phil Donahue in his place,
he didn't interrupt.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And this is how it should be done.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear
that there is no alternative way so far discovered of
improving a lot of the ordinary people that can hold
a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by
free enterprises. So it seems to reward not virtue as
much as ability to manipulate the system.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And what does reward virtue?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You think the Communist commissary rewards virtue? Do you think
of Hiitlar rewards virtue. Do you think, excuse me, if
you'll pardon me, do you think American president's reward virtue?
Do they choose their appointees on the basis of the
virtue of the people appointed or on the basis of
their political clout? Is it really true that political self
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editterst is nobler somehow than economic self edterst. You know,
I think you're taking a lot of things for granted.
Just tell me where in the world you find these
angels who are going to organize society for us.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I don't even trust you to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Milton Friedman with Phil Donahue, and it just goes to
I think an overly idealistic notion or view of government
that filled Donna Hue hatt. I believe it's naive that
you see government as a force for good. I see
government the way it was framed by my favorite president
of all time, Ronald Reagan. I'm here from the government
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to help. No, No, you're not here from the government
to help. You're here from the government to inflict what
you believe. This is the whole thing about Kamala Harris
and the price control concept. That government that somebody, an
elected official, knows better how to spend your money than
you do. They don't. Now I'm not an anarchist by
any stretch. I do lean libertarian free markets in a
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lot of ways. I believe in some constrained guard rails
of regulation, but for the most part, let the economic
machine of American capitalism drive this economy untethered. Can you
have regulations for various things like labor safety and the environment.
Very I think soft guard rails establish a rule of order,
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kind of a playing field on which the investors and
those that speculate and those that innovate can develop products
meet needs of the American consumer and deliver those products
at the best possible price. It's very simple. It's very
simple economically when you break it down that way. That
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when government tries to impede and intrude and involve itself
in whether it's pricing or anything else, this altruism. Phil
Donahue states, it does not exist. Government will do what
it needs to do for its own self interest. That's greed.
Government in and of itself drives greed. Greed in the
form of power, the accumulation of power, the exacting of
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that power on its subjects. That is why we see
this twisted communistic socialistic purview of Mao Sedung and the
Soviet Union Instalin and Mercado now in Venezuela, in Castro
and Cuba. These promises of a better life that never materialize,
that end in squalor and misery. That's where that leads.
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There is no greater good, greed, for lack of a
better word.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Is good.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Back with more after this on six point thirty km
A stormy weather out there, and stormy skies figuratively.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know, for all these Democrats, the champion the cause
against walls, or against funding the police, or against having
a police presence, so they sure do sign up for
those things when their asses are on the line, when
it's they who are in harm's way. You know, I
just think about somebody like Sheriff Steve or Eames in
(00:30):
Welld County and how he must just be chuckling at
all of this.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
He might even text me about that.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Or John Fabricatory, who I had in for a full
hour last week. If you missed that, go back and
find it on the podcast. Real interesting, knowledgeable guy would
make a tremendous congressman running in the sixth against the
incumbent Democrat Jason Crowe. Kelly and I both live in
the sixth district. Kelly put up not one, but two
John Fabricatory signs in your yard, quickly explained Kelly, I
(00:59):
did it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Put one in the front yard and then I put
one in the backyard. Why both because the backyard Actually
we live on a golf course, so all the people
who are golfing can see the second on side.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I would even argue that that sign is probably more
effective than the one in the front lawne.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You think, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
More traffic, yeah, good, good job.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, But I think about what John must be thinking,
what Sheriff Reams must be thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Here are the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
This really grinds my gears to clean up my language
a little bit. That the Democrats will rail against all
of these institutions. They will call us systematically racists that
are very founding was on racist principles of slavery by
white supremacist slave owners, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And they will not acknowledge, they will not.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Concede that the idea of America endures. That the idea
of America is as close to perfect as has ever
been created by any humans on this planet in terms
of a society that is fair, that is just, that
rewards individual liberty and entrepreneurial spirit. Think of all the
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great American inventors, and why did that happen here? Why
have these almost two hundred and fifty years been an
American renaissance. It's because of that freedom, that freedom to create,
the freedom of spirit, that freedom to explore, that freedom
to invent and all of those freedoms I just stated,
Kamala Harris stands directly against with almost every public comment
(02:31):
she's made. And I've got several examples, folks, I already
have five, count them, five deep thoughts by Vice President
Kamala Harris. Ready to go for the whole week, Ready
to go for the whole week, just based on stuff
we've been able to dig up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The Dan has sent me that I found myself online.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Counterintuitive to that American spirit of creativity, innovation, ingenuity, invention
is Kamala Haas that would crash the government down upon
all that would produce or create in this country.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
The price controls were just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Everyone those things that she hinted at and Friday, which
will be a disaster if they are enacted. Now, the
cynical person in me, this is the good cynical, believes
that she's not gonna be able to enact a lot
of that. But she has said if they don't do
it on a hundred days, she said this on a
lot of topics. By the way, if Congress doesn't give
me what I want in a hundred days by executive
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order and fiat, I'm gonna make it happen anyway. I'm
going to circumvent the entire process. I'm going to enact
these price controls on people. I'm gonna snatch, her words,
patents away from drug companies that are doing research and
development to create drugs that will save human lives just
because they are in part funded subsidized by the American government.
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But she's making it sound like it's a deal you
make with the mafia that if you don't do as
they say the government, then well we're just gonna steal
your patents. Yes, she said that. No, that's not an exaggeration,
that's not hyperbole.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Come on, she is a walking disaster. She is an
enemy of capitalism. And we'll get to some of that
because there's a famous exchange I want to get to
in this segment between the now departed Phil Donahue he
died at the age of eighty eight today and Milton Friedman,
(04:27):
who has long since been gone. He lived a very
long life though Milton Friedman an economists and a genius
in many ways, a capitalist of the highest order, and
a very important figure in the twentieth century for the
American economy. But where do I begin. Where do I begin?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Today?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I know it's cracking Kelly up, but there's so many
directions that we can go to.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
How about how about the beta males.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The beta male bros, the Beta bros, Doug m Hoff,
Tim Walls?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What is this? And again we really bonded.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You saw me get up on that stage and we
just hugged it out.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
A few of my friends texted me, it's like, what's
the deal.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like, I've known you for twenty or thirty years, You've
never hugged me like that. Well, you've never been a
vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Before on stage.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, I mean this follows the whole Derriedo set up
at the sheets. I believe it was between Kamala Harris
and Tim Walls, and she asked for some corn nuts.
So Tim Walls gets her some Dorito's obviously, because that's
what she didn't ask for. Anyway, it was it was
a staged event. It was campy and its nature. There's
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a text thread or a tweet thread or a ex
post thread that I want to go through. The gas
lighting is off the charts. Not that that should be
a surprise to anybody. It's not a surprise to me.
But when it comes from an iconic American magazine that
has lost a lot of credibility, by the way, and
it's always and hard left.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Rolling Stone magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
They originated kind of doing the Bush Hitler comparisons, and
it's the whole cry wolf thing, right, if George W.
Bush was Hitler. But now you're trying to convince me that,
well Trump was Hitler. But you got to pick one and.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Go with it. Okay, somebody's Hitler. There's one Hitler.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know, Hitler is the goat of all bad guys
of villainry in the modern history of the world. It's Hitler, right,
He's like the worst. So when you're gonna go to
that extreme, I mean, that's a big jump. That's a
big jump. You can't then go saying that George W.
Bush is Hitler old, But then, by the way, Donald
Trump is Hitler. It's like, well, how many Hitlers are there?
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And do they really measure up from an evil standpoint? No,
they probably don't. So I want to get into that
as well. Obviously, today mark's the start of the Democratic
National Convention, and that's where I started with a law
enforcement You see the heavy police presence, the Chicago PD,
God love them, and they're putting their lives on the
line to try to keep law and order on the streets.
(07:00):
The Democrats would support that, unless, of course, it's their
hides that are being saved by this. They've built fencing
and walls around the DNC.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Why would they do that.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Walls don't work till you've been told by them by
the Well, no, they do work. Apparently because the Democrats
are scared of their own constituents.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Businesses in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Have preemptively boarded up their windows and doors. How much
of this happened in Milwaukee a month ago for the
Republican National Convention, Well, none of it, none of the
extra police presence. There was no violence, no protesters, no
businesses needed to board up their windows and doors, No
walls were built around the arena where Milwaukee was. Rob
(07:46):
Dawson coming up in hour number two the bottom of
that hour is going to report live from the streets
of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm kind of worried sick about him.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
He's in the midst of all these protesters and pro
hamas whack jobs that are coming in for the convention.
They're estimating about one hundred thousand who knows what that
number is going to be like or how that's going
to turn out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
But the first thing I want to do, since it's
still two thirteen and the Mountain Heres are going live,
I think we need to play the Kamala drinking game.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I say this with some level of hesitation only because
there are rumors now coming out of the weekend. And
believe me, as a son of a father who is
a recovering alcoholic, it'll be twenty years sober from my
dad in September, and I'm very proud of him. I'm
very happy that he was able to find a sobriety
because without it, quite frankly, he probably would have died
(08:41):
about twenty years ago. But I still have him and
I cherish that. But that there might be an issue
here now I wanted to dig into this further. So
coming up Thursday, Charlie Spearing, who is the author of
Amateur Hour Kamala Harrison the White House. You may have
seen him on Jesse Waters, going to join me on
(09:01):
Thursday to start the show, so you'll have that to
look forward to. But that there may be an issue,
a problem with Vice President Harris and alcohol, drinking to excess,
drinking too often, drinking it inappropriate times. Now, this would
follow logically that there would be a concern her talking
in circles and word salads, and we make fun of that,
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but it would explain a lot of the cause of that.
The root cause that she didn't get to for immigration,
but that we're maybe going to get to here would
be that perhaps she's a day drinker and this is
not good. It would also explain the turmoil and the
tumult within her own camp that what ninety two percent
of her staffers have quit. You know, alcohol tends to
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amplify emotions, both good and bad, and she's kind of
in a bad mood one day and she has a little.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Bit too much to drink.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know, they're trying to compare her to like the
drunk wine ant that says clever, funny things at family gatherings.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know if that's going to fly.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And especially these rumors turn out to be true, and
I want to call them what they are before there's
any verifiable proof. This is pure conjecture, but I've seen
a lot of it ruminating online, and again, it would.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Explain a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So with that preface and caveat there's something about her
response here. I'm going to play it at first so
that you can kind of take it in. I want
to take this in parts where Kamala Harris is asked
about her economic policy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
She just gets off the bus and.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
She's able to answer one question here, and I'm trying
to see if I have just that version or not.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I believe I do. Now let's just go with this
since I can't find it and I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So she gets off the bus and she gives about
a one minute answer here. But there are two terms
that I want you to hone in on, and I'm
going to reveal them to you right now. And what
this reminds me of in college as a gen xer,
what a certain song would come on at the bar
usually on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Half of the bar would.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Drink when Sting sad saying rather rock Sanne, and then
the other half of the bar would drink when the
rest of the band saying you don't have to turn
on the red light. And then there would be a
volley to go back and forth. And if you know
the song, well, you're wasted by the end of the song.
Similarly in this response from Kamala Harris, I want all
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the ladies out there to drink when you hear rock
Sanne and in terms of okay, that's the phrase, that's
the catchphrase when you hear in terms of take a
twig or whatever you're drinking, if it's alcohol, God love
you this time of day. And for the gentleman out there,
I want you to drink on you don't have to
turn on the red light. And return on investment. Okay,
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those are the cues. And here we go to the
sound of the police and rock sand right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Lie right.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You unveiled your exist economic policies last week.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Can you explain how you're going to pay for those
and can you give us a sense of what other
policies you want to unveil going forward?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Well, I mean you just look at it in terms
of what we are talking about, for example, around CHU
and the child Tax Credit and extending the EC that
it's at six thousand dollars for the first year of
elect a child's life. The return on that investment, in
terms of what that will do and what it will
pay for it will be tremendous. We've seen it when
we did it the first year of our administration reduces
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We reduced top obviously by over fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So that's a lot of the work.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
And then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits.
We know that there's a great return on investment. And
when we increase home ownership in America, what that means
in terms of increasing the tax base, not to mention
your property tax base, what that does to find schools? Again,
return on investment. I think it's a mistake for any
person who talks about public policy did not critically evaluate
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how you measure the return of em when you are
strengthening neighborhood, strengthening communities and in particular the economy of
those communities, and investing in a broad based economy, everybody
benefits and it pays for itself.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
All right, if you're loaded, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Going back to the scoreboard now, in that exchange, Kamala
Harris used quote in terms of unquote exactly four times
in a one minute response. She also used return on
investment that phrase exactly four times.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So these crutch phrases.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And you'll notice a pattern here because I have, as
I've gone back and tried to edit through a lot
of her circular talking points, what she leans on, and
specifically in live question formats, which she has not had.
Now the countdown is at count up, I should say,
twenty nine days she's been the presumptive candidate. Joe Biden
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has dropped out of the race. She has not held
a single press conference or conducted a single interview sit
down with a member of the media. But when she does,
she goes to in terms of as what I call filler.
When you give a response you don't know what to
say next. You do the Michael Scott on the Office
where he just starts talking and then tries to fill
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in the details as he goes. Not usually a great result,
but this is the type of response that we're dealing
with from her, and it's something that even David Brooks,
he's ostensibly a conservative, I guess it's as conservative as
you get for the New York Times, but he is
no Trump fan at all, and he was breaking down
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the Kamala Harris policy that she just tried to fill
in the details about.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean, she has some good policies in this package.
I think the Child's Act credit, it's a good thing.
She wants to deregulate housing so we can get more homes,
but the price gouting is just well. Kevin Rampell, the
Washington Post columnist a News Hour contributor, said it's impossible
to exaggerate how bad this policy is, and I agree
with that. Oh and Catherine had a good line that
if your opponent is calling you a communist, maybe don't
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lead with price controls. And so price controls just create
shortages that create black markets. We've seen it happen in Venezuela.
We've seen it happen in the Soviet Union. Price controls
just don't work.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And if you noticed in Kamala's response to the reporter
off the bus when she was asked about how are
you going to pay for all this, she tried to
frame it on the child tax credit pard not the
grocery punishment part, with the return on the investment of
the child tax credits, and then people are able to
make us maybe spend their own money. There's some kind
of logic there. I guess that I'm not following entirely
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because she avoided the grocery portion of that. Brooks goes
on here to say price gouging, what price gouging.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
What's worse about that?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
First, it's trying to address a problem that does not exist.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Price grocery prices.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Inflation has been less than one percent for the past year.
It's over. We had a surge, but it's over. The
problem does not exist. But the real core problem is
it expresses a level of economic illteracy, which is kind
of surprising and a responsible Democratic candidate.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It would be surprising in a responsible Democratic candidate. If
Kamala Harris were a responsible Democratic candidate.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
She is not.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And it's not kind of surprising that she is, inherit
his terms, economically illiterate because she is that This is
a paper tiger.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
This is a total construck.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Kamala Harris herself invented by a Democratic party that needed
a cult of personality to build around a person who
has no substance whatsoever. You can't go waiting very deep
in the Kamala Harris pool before you get to the
rock bottom, and you definitely can't get waste deep in
any kind of intellectual issue that she would be a
strong voice for. This is Brooks and the final portion
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of his comments just totally undermining her contention and Joe
Biden's that there's greed flation.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
The idea behind greedflation is that we had all these
years of low inflation under Obama and under Bush's and
I guess people weren't greedy then, and then Biden gets
in and suddenly, magically they all get greedy and stype
price scougen, and they do it at Kroger's, at Harris Teeter,
at H ANDP. Suddenly there's this mass of price scougen
and she thinks she can prosecute it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's not why inflation surged.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Inflation surge because we had a pandemic which screwed up
supply chains and productivity. Then the Biden administration overstimulated the
economy too many dollars chasing too few goods. I'm an
administration official. Larry Summer and Jason Furman said at the time,
this is going to cause inflation.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Lo and behold it did.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
The Fed has to clamp down on growth, raising everybody's
interest payments. That's what caused inflation. That's solid basic economics.
Her great inflation plan is somewhere off outside of normal economics.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Wow, I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And that's David Brooks once again for The New York Times,
and that was on PBS, so there isn't a lot
of lavish praise coming Kamala Harris's way even as we
launch into the Democratic National Convention today and again Rob
Dawson will be reporting live at the bottom of the
three o'clock hour, so around three thirty three live from
(18:38):
Chicago from the site of the Democratic National Convention, and
the very latest on the protests going on outside the convention.
Lots more to get to your texts as well. Five seven, seven,
three nine, Please start those, Ryan, and we'll look forward
to that and more after this on six point thirty
k House. It's not every day I get to talk
(19:03):
to a Hall of Famer, but that's the case right now.
Our next guest is an inductee of the Premier Lacrosse
League Hall of Fame and ambidextrous midfielder, three time All
American and national champion. The list of awards and accolades
goes on and just recently signing on to help promote
xx x y Athletics. Now you know about that because
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Jennifer Say has appeared on this program many times and
it's her ingenuity and her entrepreneurial spirit that has.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Launched xxxy Athletics.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You can find out more about that at xx dash
xy athletics dot com. Josh Sim's our guest with me
Ryan Schuling here on six point thirty k I, Josh,
first of all, congratulations on your induction to the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thanks for having me absolutely and I want to talk
to you more about your connection to xx xy Athletics
and really what started that, What was that genesis of
the relationship between you and Jennifer.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I actually mentioned through a mutual friend, somebody that actually
I played with in college who I've stayed friends with
in the Denver area since moving out here in the
early two thousands, And you know, I hit it off
with jen knew what they were trying to do. And
I've been in the industry for quite a long time,
thought I was getting out, but I was too intrigued
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by the opportunity and the concept and really wanted to
just dive in. And that's that's how we met, and
that's what's happening now.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You said you've been in the industry for a long time,
Do you mean like sportswear and athletic wear like that
or just the sporting world in general.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Both really.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I mean I got out of college thinking I was
going off to you know, use this created economics degree
I got, and the Major League Lacrosse Professional League started
this summer that I graduated, So here I was kind
of presenting with this opportunity to stay in the game
and play. But it was also you know, a weekend
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warrior version of Pro pro sports, and we all have
held down jobs, so I got to work in the
industry with Warrior Sports and New Balance property than under Armour,
and then last with the North Face and even with
the PLL in the inaugural year, was the head of
lacrosse for the league, so definitely stayed involved on both
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sides and in all.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Aspects, joining us now he is in the Premiere Lacrosse
League Hall of Fame Josh Simms and affiliated with xx
x Y Athletics. About this, you mentioned having worked with
the North Face and the past very successful brand in
and of itself, but about the mission kind of the
mission statement, I guess, of what Jen's trying to accomplish
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with xx x.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Y Athletics, why was that part of it important to you?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Josh, Well, I'm a girl dad for starters, so I've
got four daughters, and what I've seen happening in women's
sports and this spread of biological males competing in women's
sports was concerning to me on a personal level. But
I also was concerned just the level of awareness that
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people had for the issue and the lack of real concern.
So knowing that we were starting a brand that was
mission focused and standing up for women's sports and spaces
was important to me. It wasn't something that wasn't the
place that necessarily see myself going, but you know, when
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the starts align, that's just how it goes.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I guess so great to hear from somebody like Josh
with his influence in the world of sports and specifically lacrosse.
Sticking up, like you said, for girl sports and space
is so important.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And I've spoken with a friend of Jen's.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I don't know if you know where personally yet, but
Kim Russell is a lacrosse coach formerly at Oberlin College.
There was a big controversy there with her regarding the
issue of transgender athletes, and then that has led her
to Green Pastors and her coaching endeavors. But part of
the conversations I've had with her, Kim Russell, Josh, is
the difference obviously physiologically between girls and boys, men and women,
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And I'd like you to speak to specifically in lacrosse
what those dangers could be. Let's say, if a biological male,
regardless of what level it was at, were to participate
in girls lacrosse, what could you see going wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Sure? I mean I know Tim and I've met Kim,
and her story is incredible. For anyone that hasn't heard
it definitely worth checking out. In terms of men competing
against in women's sports, I mean, if you look at
the game of lacrosse, it hasn't been an area where
I think this has presented been an issue yet. Fortunately, however,
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I mean it was for Kim in a different way,
and I think part of that is because the games
are played very differently. I mean, the women's game involves
much less protect They were eye protection and a mouth guard.
Men's lacrosse it's helmet, gloves, The contact is much higher.
It's a very different version of the game. I mean, fundamentally,
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they're very similar, and I think that there could be
and should be better versions of co ed game gameplay.
But you know, it's just the way that the game
has evolved. It's very different. So I just can't imagine it.
I don't think it. I certainly don't think it would.
It would go very well if it were to become,
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certainly become something that was prevalent.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Josh Sims our guest again.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
He is a member of the Premiere Lacrosse League Hall
of Fame and now affiliated directly with xx x Y Athletics.
We're a big supporter of Jennifer Say and those products
on this show, and you can find out more online
xx x Y athletics dot com. Now, Josh, just asking
to provide your opinion here. But having competed at the
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highest level and the sport that you participated, I am
anticipating that you watched the Olympic Games and there was
controversy along these lines in women's Olympic boxing with Amni
Khalif of Algeria and lin U Ting of Taiwan. They
had failed gender eligibility tests in the past. There is
some gray area here though, as to whether they are
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technically biological males or females, or hermaphrodic or xx Y
chromosomal my stance on this you encounter it, however, you like,
is that if there is a presence of a Y
chromosome at all, that in and of itself should be
the disqualifying factor for an individual participating in girls or
women's sports.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I would agree with you there. I think the easiest
way to solve this issue is to say that you
have to be XX and unfortunately it may prevent a
small portion of people that are in the DSD category
who cannot compete, But that would be the only fair
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way to address the issue. And I know there's a
lot of speculation, particularly with what happened in the Olympics,
and there's a lot of politicizing I think of the issue,
and when you break it down into simple terms, it's
really the only way to keep women safe and keep
the sport fair. So I would agree with you there.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Final question, Josh. We appreciate your time and all that
you're doing to protect girls sports and spaces, but where
you see this going the future for girls and women's athletics.
We know that there was an encroachment on Title nine
that the Supreme Court, by a five to four margin
just struck down, and that was a victory at least
in the short term.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We saw that celebrated. But where you hope to take.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
All of this with xxxy Athletics, with the message that
you're trying to bring to the American people.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I think we want to restore some sanity.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I think right.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Now this idea that biological sex doesn't matter is an
inflection point. It's somewhat insane to us and to many people.
I think most people are definitely on our side with regards.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
To this issue.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
And we want to raise awareness. We want to bring
great products to market, provide products, performance products that athletes
will love and you know, enjoy the performance of. And
I think change culture. We want to change culture and
make people appreciate sports and for what they are and
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and not you know, not adopt this ideology that could
ultimately destroy women's sports.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Such a great point and such a great cause.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And you can find out more about this brand at
xx dash x Y athletics dot com. He's a premier
Lacrosse League Hall of Famer Josh Simms joining us today. Josh,
so thankful for your time and all that you're doing.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Best of luck going forward, much appreciation and thanks for
your support.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
All right, Josh s they're your reaction.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Of course, this is a topic near and dear to
my heart, with two nieces, two sisters, growing up, having
participated in sports myself, and having worked in athletics and
in sports broadcasting, and knowing really what is truth from fiction,
and there just is no gray area when it comes
to my observations on the topic, my participation in sports
along those lines, and my coverage of sports, which has
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included women's sports, and that's very important to me.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And that's why you see people from all.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Across the ideological spectrum, from Martina Navra Tolova to Riley
Gains and all these others in between that are fighting
the good fight on behalf of girls and women's sports
and spaces. And Josh Simms, God love him as a
girl dad, like he said, getting involved, putting his name
to it, Hall of Fame lacrosse player, and he's willing
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to search out that fairness for girls participating in athletics.
Xxxyathletics dot com is where you can find out more.
We'll take this time out, come back wrap up hour
number one after this Ryan schuling on six thirty K.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
How I think you've ever had a moment of doubt
about capitalism and whether greed's a good idea to run on.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Well, first of all, tell me, is there some society
you know that doesn't run on greed? You think Russia
doesn't run on greed, You think China doesn't run on greed?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
What is greed?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Of course, none of us are greeting.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's only the other fellow who's greeding.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
The world runs on individuals pursuing their separateadors. The great
achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein
didn't construct his theory under order from a bureaucraft. Henry
Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way. In the
only cases in which the masses have escaped from the
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kind of grinding poverty you're talking about, the only cases
in recorded history or where they have had capitalism and
largely free trade. If you want to know where the
masses are worse off worst off, it's exactly from the
kinds of societies that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Depart from that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Legendary economist Milton Friedman with late Phil Donahue.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Just passed away last night at the age of eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
A pioneer in the field of the talk format on television.
Donahue was the first of its kind, soon to be
followed by Oprah Winfrey, Sally Jesse, Raphael, several other imitators,
but Donahue was the original, and he dated back to
the nineteen seventies. And that was part of a fascinating
interview that Phil did with Milton Friedman. And what I
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like about Phil Donahue, although I disagreed with him tremendously
fundamentally philosophically, politically, was that he allowed his guests and
showed the respect to Milton Friedman to allow him to speak,
to listen, to allow him to be heard. Even when
Milton Friedman was basically putting Phil Donahue in his place,
he didn't interrupt.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And this is how it should be done.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear
that there is no alternative way so far discovered of
improving a lot of the ordinary people that can hold
a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by
free enterprises. So it seems to reward not virtue as
much as ability to manipulate the system.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And what does reward virtue?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You think the Communist commissary rewards virtue? Do you think
of Hiitlar rewards virtue. Do you think, excuse me, if
you'll pardon me, do you think American president's reward virtue?
Do they choose their appointees on the basis of the
virtue of the people appointed or on the basis of
their political clout? Is it really true that political self
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editterst is nobler somehow than economic self edterst. You know,
I think you're taking a lot of things for granted.
Just tell me where in the world you find these
angels who are going to organize society for us.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I don't even trust you to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Milton Friedman with Phil Donahue, and it just goes to
I think an overly idealistic notion or view of government
that filled Donna Hue hatt. I believe it's naive that
you see government as a force for good. I see
government the way it was framed by my favorite president
of all time, Ronald Reagan. I'm here from the government
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to help. No, No, you're not here from the government
to help. You're here from the government to inflict what
you believe. This is the whole thing about Kamala Harris
and the price control concept. That government that somebody, an
elected official, knows better how to spend your money than
you do. They don't. Now I'm not an anarchist by
any stretch. I do lean libertarian free markets in a
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lot of ways. I believe in some constrained guard rails
of regulation, but for the most part, let the economic
machine of American capitalism drive this economy untethered. Can you
have regulations for various things like labor safety and the environment.
Very I think soft guard rails establish a rule of order,
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kind of a playing field on which the investors and
those that speculate and those that innovate can develop products
meet needs of the American consumer and deliver those products
at the best possible price. It's very simple. It's very
simple economically when you break it down that way. That
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when government tries to impede and intrude and involve itself
in whether it's pricing or anything else, this altruism. Phil
Donahue states, it does not exist. Government will do what
it needs to do for its own self interest. That's greed.
Government in and of itself drives greed. Greed in the
form of power, the accumulation of power, the exacting of
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that power on its subjects. That is why we see
this twisted communistic socialistic purview of Mao Sedung and the
Soviet Union Instalin and Mercado now in Venezuela, in Castro
and Cuba. These promises of a better life that never materialize,
that end in squalor and misery. That's where that leads.
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There is no greater good, greed, for lack of a
better word.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Is good.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
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